Title: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: Whtwabbit on September 29, 2014, 06:12:58 AM What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"??
New Zealand intervened in the currency market last week and the $NZ dropped, does that mean NZ prints more money to devalue the $NZ? Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: shawshankinmate37927 on September 29, 2014, 12:18:34 PM What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"?? New Zealand intervened in the currency market last week and the $NZ dropped, does that mean NZ prints more money to devalue the $NZ? I'd have to know more details, but New Zealand's central bank might have sold off some of the New Zealand government's debt, if they own any. They may have just lowered interest rates, (what people are charged to borrow the money they create) which would encourage more borrowing and increase the money supply. Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: Febo on September 29, 2014, 02:11:12 PM What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"?? New Zealand intervened in the currency market last week and the $NZ dropped, does that mean NZ prints more money to devalue the $NZ? I'd have to know more details, but New Zealand's central bank might have sold off some of the New Zealand government's debt, if they own any. They may have just lowered interest rates, (what people are charged to borrow the money they create) which would encourage more borrowing and increase the money supply. Usually are the interest rates. Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: AtheistAKASaneBrain on September 30, 2014, 03:18:48 PM I hope NZ doesnt fall in the same tricks as America and Europe, whose respective FIAT currencies are doomed.
Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: mestar on September 30, 2014, 03:37:17 PM What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"?? New Zealand intervened in the currency market last week and the $NZ dropped, does that mean NZ prints more money to devalue the $NZ? Yes. Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: Traffic4u on October 01, 2014, 03:01:34 AM What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"?? It usually means that they purchased massive amounts of foreign currencies in exchange for their own currency (they do this when they want to prevent their own currency from getting too strong). What happened in your example is that NZ likely sold $NZ for likely euros and dollars (the two most heavily traded currencies).New Zealand intervened in the currency market last week and the $NZ dropped, does that mean NZ prints more money to devalue the $NZ? A central bank/country could also intervene to prevent their currency from getting too weak, in this scenario they would sell their foreign currency reserves for their local currency and the result would be that the local currency would increase in value Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: Whtwabbit on October 01, 2014, 04:26:20 AM Would they more likely sell bonds to get the dollars for the currency swap, or would they most likely have $NZ cash on hand (from taxation etc) to buy?
Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: maurya78 on October 01, 2014, 04:41:03 AM Usually currency mkt interventions entail the central bank either selling down its forex reserves or adding to the pile depending on what kind of px level it is looking to support in the local currency
Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: Miracal on October 02, 2014, 05:20:41 AM The government try to adjust economic condition. Some major tools can be considered to use, such the interested rate, bond selling or buying, selling reserve currency and injecting capital to market etc. They are trying to increase the liquidity in the market, maintain the inflation rate at low level or increase import.
Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: Timetwister on October 02, 2014, 11:39:28 AM That's incorrect. You should say the government, or the central bank, not the country.
Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: lihuajkl on October 02, 2014, 01:02:35 PM That's incorrect. You should say the government, or the central bank, not the country. At some extent, using the country is correct. The gov or the central bank is assigned the authority to regulate the economy and issue money or fisical policy. So they represent the country.Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: polynesia on October 03, 2014, 02:42:20 AM What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"?? It usually means that they purchased massive amounts of foreign currencies in exchange for their own currency (they do this when they want to prevent their own currency from getting too strong). What happened in your example is that NZ likely sold $NZ for likely euros and dollars (the two most heavily traded currencies).New Zealand intervened in the currency market last week and the $NZ dropped, does that mean NZ prints more money to devalue the $NZ? A central bank/country could also intervene to prevent their currency from getting too weak, in this scenario they would sell their foreign currency reserves for their local currency and the result would be that the local currency would increase in value That is correct. Appreciation of a currency can affect exporters. It would make their exports (which are denominated in say USD) less competitive. So a central bank usually steps in (by selling / buying foreign currency) to maintain a target exchange rate. Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: a447513372 on October 04, 2014, 08:14:44 AM What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"?? It usually means that they purchased massive amounts of foreign currencies in exchange for their own currency (they do this when they want to prevent their own currency from getting too strong). What happened in your example is that NZ likely sold $NZ for likely euros and dollars (the two most heavily traded currencies).New Zealand intervened in the currency market last week and the $NZ dropped, does that mean NZ prints more money to devalue the $NZ? A central bank/country could also intervene to prevent their currency from getting too weak, in this scenario they would sell their foreign currency reserves for their local currency and the result would be that the local currency would increase in value That is correct. Appreciation of a currency can affect exporters. It would make their exports (which are denominated in say USD) less competitive. So a central bank usually steps in (by selling / buying foreign currency) to maintain a target exchange rate. Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: hodap on October 04, 2014, 01:21:53 PM What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"?? New Zealand intervened in the currency market last week and the $NZ dropped, does that mean NZ prints more money to devalue the $NZ? Central bank can intervened the currency market by lowering the interest rate or buying up foreign currencies until the desire exchange rate. Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: Meuh6879 on October 05, 2014, 04:30:33 PM What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"?? they sell drug money and drug car to private action... and then, inject fresh money in the system. in Europe and USA, they print money ... more simple, fast ... and illimited. Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: renee25 on October 05, 2014, 05:06:41 PM it's a devaluation war, the China did it in 2000, US did it in 2008-12 by printing, japan did it last year, the ecb did it just this summer, now new Zealand, the idea is to make the respective country more cheap to boost exports and increase demand as people buy more local products as foreign products are more expensive , since they printed.
That's why bitcoin is more like gold than currency. It's not going to be devalued. it has inflation but predictable. Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: polynesia on October 06, 2014, 01:33:13 AM it's a devaluation war, the China did it in 2000, US did it in 2008-12 by printing, japan did it last year, the ecb did it just this summer, now new Zealand, the idea is to make the respective country more cheap to boost exports and increase demand as people buy more local products as foreign products are more expensive , since they printed. That's why bitcoin is more like gold than currency. It's not going to be devalued. it has inflation but predictable. This is one war which no country can win. If you print more currency notes and try to devalue your currency, what stops other countries from doing the same? Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: Whtwabbit on October 06, 2014, 01:43:53 AM it's a devaluation war, the China did it in 2000, US did it in 2008-12 by printing, japan did it last year, the ecb did it just this summer, now new Zealand, the idea is to make the respective country more cheap to boost exports and increase demand as people buy more local products as foreign products are more expensive , since they printed. That's why bitcoin is more like gold than currency. It's not going to be devalued. it has inflation but predictable. This is one war which no country can win. If you print more currency notes and try to devalue your currency, what stops other countries from doing the same? Bitcoin wins Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: santaClause on October 06, 2014, 04:27:31 AM it's a devaluation war, the China did it in 2000, US did it in 2008-12 by printing, japan did it last year, the ecb did it just this summer, now new Zealand, the idea is to make the respective country more cheap to boost exports and increase demand as people buy more local products as foreign products are more expensive , since they printed. That's why bitcoin is more like gold than currency. It's not going to be devalued. it has inflation but predictable. This is one war which no country can win. If you print more currency notes and try to devalue your currency, what stops other countries from doing the same? Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: botany on October 07, 2014, 03:31:38 AM it's a devaluation war, the China did it in 2000, US did it in 2008-12 by printing, japan did it last year, the ecb did it just this summer, now new Zealand, the idea is to make the respective country more cheap to boost exports and increase demand as people buy more local products as foreign products are more expensive , since they printed. That's why bitcoin is more like gold than currency. It's not going to be devalued. it has inflation but predictable. This is one war which no country can win. If you print more currency notes and try to devalue your currency, what stops other countries from doing the same? Inflation in all countries (because all countries are doing the same). Net effect - The purchasing power of people gradually decreases, but exports don't become competitive. Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: johnyj on October 07, 2014, 04:22:05 PM Manipulating the exchange rate of own currency is a common practice for central banks since they have large reserve of foreign currency and can print their own currency limitless
In bitcoin, same practice can be done in large exchanges, so it is important to have many exchanges or even better P2P exchanges all over the place to reduce the effect of one single exchange Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: 51percemt on October 08, 2014, 04:17:08 AM Manipulating the exchange rate of own currency is a common practice for central banks since they have large reserve of foreign currency and can print their own currency limitless Some devs of altcoins will do this in order to keep the value of their altcoin stable, at least for some period of time. Although I believe this to be extremely rare as, IMO the devs of alt coins generally only make their coins to get richIn bitcoin, same practice can be done in large exchanges, so it is important to have many exchanges or even better P2P exchanges all over the place to reduce the effect of one single exchange Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: sidhujag on October 08, 2014, 04:21:11 AM US manipulated usdx by doing QE, BOJ manipulates jpy by selling joy.. usdjpy below 80 was breaking point look at charts and what they said. SNB said 1.2 eurchf and intervened.. the guys wife bought shitload of EUR and sold CHF prior to the big billion EUR order. Australian bank has been talking down AUD by saying its too high around 1.07.. and it fell.. and im guessing NZ central bank is doing the same... selling NZD because its a race to the bottom for exporting countries.
Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: money420weed on October 08, 2014, 04:36:32 AM US manipulated usdx by doing QE, BOJ manipulates jpy by selling joy.. usdjpy below 80 was breaking point look at charts and what they said. SNB said 1.2 eurchf and intervened.. the guys wife bought shitload of EUR and sold CHF prior to the big billion EUR order. Australian bank has been talking down AUD by saying its too high around 1.07.. and it fell.. and im guessing NZ central bank is doing the same... selling NZD because its a race to the bottom for exporting countries. Central banks do let their currencies fluctuate somewhat (even china allows their currency to move up and down by a small amount every day). The issue comes when a currency moves in one direction too far, threatening the economy if intervention does not occurTitle: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: DhaniBoy on October 08, 2014, 05:01:57 PM each state must have an interest in the money market, they want to maintain their currency exchange rates remain high compared with the currencies of other countries, things like this are like two sides of a coin that is not integral, ie between state intervention on the currency markets, of course eye money superpowers will be more beperan in currency markets ... hopefully superpowers can be fair to other countries, especially developing countries ..... 8)
Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: sidhujag on October 08, 2014, 06:44:33 PM US manipulated usdx by doing QE, BOJ manipulates jpy by selling joy.. usdjpy below 80 was breaking point look at charts and what they said. SNB said 1.2 eurchf and intervened.. the guys wife bought shitload of EUR and sold CHF prior to the big billion EUR order. Australian bank has been talking down AUD by saying its too high around 1.07.. and it fell.. and im guessing NZ central bank is doing the same... selling NZD because its a race to the bottom for exporting countries. Central banks do let their currencies fluctuate somewhat (even china allows their currency to move up and down by a small amount every day). The issue comes when a currency moves in one direction too far, threatening the economy if intervention does not occurIntervention always ends up hurting more than it helps... it fakes demand similar to QE and all other forms of manipulation... it will come back to bite. If it moved up too far or down too far.. tough loss your decision to sign plaza accord creating a deflationary spiral for everyone else other than USD. Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: redHeadBlunder on October 09, 2014, 04:57:42 AM Intervention always ends up hurting more than it helps... it fakes demand similar to QE and all other forms of manipulation... it will come back to bite. If it moved up too far or down too far.. tough loss your decision to sign plaza accord creating a deflationary spiral for everyone else other than USD. I think QE is worse then intervention. QE is determined to be long term manipulation and is very difficult and time consuming to unwind. The effects of QE will also not be immediately known. Intervention on the other hand takes effect immediately and can easily be reversed by intervening in the other direction (or can simply cease intervening) Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: sidhujag on October 09, 2014, 05:13:06 AM Intervention always ends up hurting more than it helps... it fakes demand similar to QE and all other forms of manipulation... it will come back to bite. If it moved up too far or down too far.. tough loss your decision to sign plaza accord creating a deflationary spiral for everyone else other than USD. I think QE is worse then intervention. QE is determined to be long term manipulation and is very difficult and time consuming to unwind. The effects of QE will also not be immediately known. Intervention on the other hand takes effect immediately and can easily be reversed by intervening in the other direction (or can simply cease intervening) Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: redHeadBlunder on October 09, 2014, 06:08:42 AM Intervention always ends up hurting more than it helps... it fakes demand similar to QE and all other forms of manipulation... it will come back to bite. If it moved up too far or down too far.. tough loss your decision to sign plaza accord creating a deflationary spiral for everyone else other than USD. I think QE is worse then intervention. QE is determined to be long term manipulation and is very difficult and time consuming to unwind. The effects of QE will also not be immediately known. Intervention on the other hand takes effect immediately and can easily be reversed by intervening in the other direction (or can simply cease intervening) Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: unpure on October 09, 2014, 08:11:41 AM Intervention always ends up hurting more than it helps... it fakes demand similar to QE and all other forms of manipulation... it will come back to bite. If it moved up too far or down too far.. tough loss your decision to sign plaza accord creating a deflationary spiral for everyone else other than USD. I think QE is worse then intervention. QE is determined to be long term manipulation and is very difficult and time consuming to unwind. The effects of QE will also not be immediately known. Intervention on the other hand takes effect immediately and can easily be reversed by intervening in the other direction (or can simply cease intervening) Normally, this would mean country who devalue their own currency first benefit the most in the short term. But smart money will leave the country will leave the country who steal from businesses who hold capital. Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: GenieBTC on October 09, 2014, 03:35:22 PM It means they want a piece(money) of the action.
Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: sidhujag on October 10, 2014, 01:47:52 AM Intervention always ends up hurting more than it helps... it fakes demand similar to QE and all other forms of manipulation... it will come back to bite. If it moved up too far or down too far.. tough loss your decision to sign plaza accord creating a deflationary spiral for everyone else other than USD. I think QE is worse then intervention. QE is determined to be long term manipulation and is very difficult and time consuming to unwind. The effects of QE will also not be immediately known. Intervention on the other hand takes effect immediately and can easily be reversed by intervening in the other direction (or can simply cease intervening) Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: panju1 on October 10, 2014, 01:48:40 AM Intervention always ends up hurting more than it helps... it fakes demand similar to QE and all other forms of manipulation... it will come back to bite. If it moved up too far or down too far.. tough loss your decision to sign plaza accord creating a deflationary spiral for everyone else other than USD. I think QE is worse then intervention. QE is determined to be long term manipulation and is very difficult and time consuming to unwind. The effects of QE will also not be immediately known. Intervention on the other hand takes effect immediately and can easily be reversed by intervening in the other direction (or can simply cease intervening) Normally, this would mean country who devalue their own currency first benefit the most in the short term. But smart money will leave the country will leave the country who steal from businesses who hold capital. This is called passing the deflationary parcel. In the end, a country which doesn't deflate its currency is left holding the parcel. So all countries continue deflating. Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: BJay87 on October 10, 2014, 01:36:02 PM It means they want a piece(money) of the action. Therefore governent wants to mess things up again. Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: jjacob on October 11, 2014, 08:19:47 AM It means they want a piece(money) of the action. Therefore governent wants to mess things up again. They usually intervene to stop start depreciation/appreciation of the home currency and decrease volatility. Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: funtotry on October 12, 2014, 03:24:35 AM Intervention always ends up hurting more than it helps... it fakes demand similar to QE and all other forms of manipulation... it will come back to bite. If it moved up too far or down too far.. tough loss your decision to sign plaza accord creating a deflationary spiral for everyone else other than USD. I think QE is worse then intervention. QE is determined to be long term manipulation and is very difficult and time consuming to unwind. The effects of QE will also not be immediately known. Intervention on the other hand takes effect immediately and can easily be reversed by intervening in the other direction (or can simply cease intervening) Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: sidhujag on October 14, 2014, 02:21:52 AM Intervention always ends up hurting more than it helps... it fakes demand similar to QE and all other forms of manipulation... it will come back to bite. If it moved up too far or down too far.. tough loss your decision to sign plaza accord creating a deflationary spiral for everyone else other than USD. I think QE is worse then intervention. QE is determined to be long term manipulation and is very difficult and time consuming to unwind. The effects of QE will also not be immediately known. Intervention on the other hand takes effect immediately and can easily be reversed by intervening in the other direction (or can simply cease intervening) Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: BTCmoons on October 14, 2014, 02:33:37 AM Intervention always ends up hurting more than it helps... it fakes demand similar to QE and all other forms of manipulation... it will come back to bite. If it moved up too far or down too far.. tough loss your decision to sign plaza accord creating a deflationary spiral for everyone else other than USD. I think QE is worse then intervention. QE is determined to be long term manipulation and is very difficult and time consuming to unwind. The effects of QE will also not be immediately known. Intervention on the other hand takes effect immediately and can easily be reversed by intervening in the other direction (or can simply cease intervening) Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: sidhujag on October 14, 2014, 02:48:50 AM Intervention always ends up hurting more than it helps... it fakes demand similar to QE and all other forms of manipulation... it will come back to bite. If it moved up too far or down too far.. tough loss your decision to sign plaza accord creating a deflationary spiral for everyone else other than USD. I think QE is worse then intervention. QE is determined to be long term manipulation and is very difficult and time consuming to unwind. The effects of QE will also not be immediately known. Intervention on the other hand takes effect immediately and can easily be reversed by intervening in the other direction (or can simply cease intervening) yes obviously, problem is alot of the top economies rely on net exports to US/CHINA/EUROPE and thus it really is a big issue and a war going on behind the scenes. Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: jjacob on October 15, 2014, 01:40:39 AM Not all countries have a "weak local currency" currency policy. Some will let the currency freely float against other currencies regardless of what the market does. The only currencies that will have the problem of being too strong are countries that have net exports as their currency will naturally get stronger as they sell products overseas, bring the profits home and buy the local currency. The problem is what happens when other countries manipulate the foreign currency exchange rate. Do they still follow an off-hands policy or do they intervene in the market? Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: sidhujag on October 15, 2014, 02:02:54 AM Not all countries have a "weak local currency" currency policy. Some will let the currency freely float against other currencies regardless of what the market does. The only currencies that will have the problem of being too strong are countries that have net exports as their currency will naturally get stronger as they sell products overseas, bring the profits home and buy the local currency. The problem is what happens when other countries manipulate the foreign currency exchange rate. Do they still follow an off-hands policy or do they intervene in the market? Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: jjacob on October 16, 2014, 12:18:52 AM Not all countries have a "weak local currency" currency policy. Some will let the currency freely float against other currencies regardless of what the market does. The only currencies that will have the problem of being too strong are countries that have net exports as their currency will naturally get stronger as they sell products overseas, bring the profits home and buy the local currency. The problem is what happens when other countries manipulate the foreign currency exchange rate. Do they still follow an off-hands policy or do they intervene in the market? It is a race no country can win. Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: sidhujag on October 16, 2014, 05:00:27 PM Not all countries have a "weak local currency" currency policy. Some will let the currency freely float against other currencies regardless of what the market does. The only currencies that will have the problem of being too strong are countries that have net exports as their currency will naturally get stronger as they sell products overseas, bring the profits home and buy the local currency. The problem is what happens when other countries manipulate the foreign currency exchange rate. Do they still follow an off-hands policy or do they intervene in the market? It is a race no country can win. The one with the biggest/smartest military will win. For now. Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: scarsbergholden on October 18, 2014, 11:36:36 AM Not all countries have a "weak local currency" currency policy. Some will let the currency freely float against other currencies regardless of what the market does. The only currencies that will have the problem of being too strong are countries that have net exports as their currency will naturally get stronger as they sell products overseas, bring the profits home and buy the local currency. The problem is what happens when other countries manipulate the foreign currency exchange rate. Do they still follow an off-hands policy or do they intervene in the market? Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: sidhujag on October 18, 2014, 10:59:56 PM Not all countries have a "weak local currency" currency policy. Some will let the currency freely float against other currencies regardless of what the market does. The only currencies that will have the problem of being too strong are countries that have net exports as their currency will naturally get stronger as they sell products overseas, bring the profits home and buy the local currency. The problem is what happens when other countries manipulate the foreign currency exchange rate. Do they still follow an off-hands policy or do they intervene in the market? well boj has caused usdjpy to bottom out... and eurchf is holding above 1.2 for years now... getting pretty cose but I agree... however with jpy i think they will enter a period of inflation (maybe hyper inflation) because of what they did.. i think instead of jpy being so strong it will become super weak because of the choices they made.. there is no happy between now.. they went to extreme measures to do major interventions and now rate is climbing but it will either fall back down or go through the roof to hurt their economy again. Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: BTCmoons on October 19, 2014, 03:33:51 AM Not all countries have a "weak local currency" currency policy. Some will let the currency freely float against other currencies regardless of what the market does. The only currencies that will have the problem of being too strong are countries that have net exports as their currency will naturally get stronger as they sell products overseas, bring the profits home and buy the local currency. The problem is what happens when other countries manipulate the foreign currency exchange rate. Do they still follow an off-hands policy or do they intervene in the market? well boj has caused usdjpy to bottom out... and eurchf is holding above 1.2 for years now... getting pretty cose but I agree... however with jpy i think they will enter a period of inflation (maybe hyper inflation) because of what they did.. i think instead of jpy being so strong it will become super weak because of the choices they made.. there is no happy between now.. they went to extreme measures to do major interventions and now rate is climbing but it will either fall back down or go through the roof to hurt their economy again. Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: sidhujag on October 19, 2014, 07:16:23 AM Not all countries have a "weak local currency" currency policy. Some will let the currency freely float against other currencies regardless of what the market does. The only currencies that will have the problem of being too strong are countries that have net exports as their currency will naturally get stronger as they sell products overseas, bring the profits home and buy the local currency. The problem is what happens when other countries manipulate the foreign currency exchange rate. Do they still follow an off-hands policy or do they intervene in the market? well boj has caused usdjpy to bottom out... and eurchf is holding above 1.2 for years now... getting pretty cose but I agree... however with jpy i think they will enter a period of inflation (maybe hyper inflation) because of what they did.. i think instead of jpy being so strong it will become super weak because of the choices they made.. there is no happy between now.. they went to extreme measures to do major interventions and now rate is climbing but it will either fall back down or go through the roof to hurt their economy again. btw your number are off they didnt buy hundreds of billions of dollars.. that is a lie. Give me a link. Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: santaClause on October 19, 2014, 03:00:04 PM Not all countries have a "weak local currency" currency policy. Some will let the currency freely float against other currencies regardless of what the market does. The only currencies that will have the problem of being too strong are countries that have net exports as their currency will naturally get stronger as they sell products overseas, bring the profits home and buy the local currency. The problem is what happens when other countries manipulate the foreign currency exchange rate. Do they still follow an off-hands policy or do they intervene in the market? well boj has caused usdjpy to bottom out... and eurchf is holding above 1.2 for years now... getting pretty cose but I agree... however with jpy i think they will enter a period of inflation (maybe hyper inflation) because of what they did.. i think instead of jpy being so strong it will become super weak because of the choices they made.. there is no happy between now.. they went to extreme measures to do major interventions and now rate is climbing but it will either fall back down or go through the roof to hurt their economy again. btw your number are off they didnt buy hundreds of billions of dollars.. that is a lie. Give me a link. Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/01/us-japan-economy-azumi-idUSBRE85003L20120601 Quote BOJ UNDER PRESSURE AGAIN I would say that if they spent that much over the course of a few weeks then it would be easy to assume that they purchased a trillion dollars over the course of a decade. Tokyo spent a record 8 trillion yen ($101 billion) in unilateral intervention into the currency market last October 31, when the dollar hit its record low against the yen, and another 1 trillion yen in early November on undeclared forays into the market. Authorities have stayed out of the market since then. Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: sidhujag on October 20, 2014, 02:31:02 AM Not all countries have a "weak local currency" currency policy. Some will let the currency freely float against other currencies regardless of what the market does. The only currencies that will have the problem of being too strong are countries that have net exports as their currency will naturally get stronger as they sell products overseas, bring the profits home and buy the local currency. The problem is what happens when other countries manipulate the foreign currency exchange rate. Do they still follow an off-hands policy or do they intervene in the market? well boj has caused usdjpy to bottom out... and eurchf is holding above 1.2 for years now... getting pretty cose but I agree... however with jpy i think they will enter a period of inflation (maybe hyper inflation) because of what they did.. i think instead of jpy being so strong it will become super weak because of the choices they made.. there is no happy between now.. they went to extreme measures to do major interventions and now rate is climbing but it will either fall back down or go through the roof to hurt their economy again. btw your number are off they didnt buy hundreds of billions of dollars.. that is a lie. Give me a link. Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/01/us-japan-economy-azumi-idUSBRE85003L20120601 Quote BOJ UNDER PRESSURE AGAIN I would say that if they spent that much over the course of a few weeks then it would be easy to assume that they purchased a trillion dollars over the course of a decade. Tokyo spent a record 8 trillion yen ($101 billion) in unilateral intervention into the currency market last October 31, when the dollar hit its record low against the yen, and another 1 trillion yen in early November on undeclared forays into the market. Authorities have stayed out of the market since then. Judging by the fact that there is only $1.3 Trillion USD in circulation I hardly think that is the truth. The intervention that was big $101 billion was the one shot and th ebig one.. but normally around japan open they openly sold a few million on the open market.. but it doesnt add up to much compared to the big intervention. Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: Window2Wall on October 20, 2014, 05:21:51 AM Judging by the fact that there is only $1.3 Trillion USD in circulation I hardly think that is the truth. The intervention that was big $101 billion was the one shot and th ebig one.. but normally around japan open they openly sold a few million on the open market.. but it doesnt add up to much compared to the big intervention. You need to remember that the majority of US dollars available are not in "hard currency/paper" form but rather is in "digital" form. You also need to remember that trillions of dollars worth of dollars are traded every day throughout the world. Take the stock market for example, there are close to hundreds of billions of dollars worth of stocks traded on a daily basis however none of it actually has physical cash change hands. IIRC the amount of dollars traded on forex markets is in the trillions of dollars per day, however I am having trouble finding a source on this Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: sidhujag on October 20, 2014, 05:46:03 AM Judging by the fact that there is only $1.3 Trillion USD in circulation I hardly think that is the truth. The intervention that was big $101 billion was the one shot and th ebig one.. but normally around japan open they openly sold a few million on the open market.. but it doesnt add up to much compared to the big intervention. You need to remember that the majority of US dollars available are not in "hard currency/paper" form but rather is in "digital" form. You also need to remember that trillions of dollars worth of dollars are traded every day throughout the world. Take the stock market for example, there are close to hundreds of billions of dollars worth of stocks traded on a daily basis however none of it actually has physical cash change hands. IIRC the amount of dollars traded on forex markets is in the trillions of dollars per day, however I am having trouble finding a source on this I doubt boj works on margin.. Title: Re: What does it mean when a "country intervenes in the currency market"? Post by: xmasdobo on October 23, 2014, 03:51:43 PM Not all countries have a "weak local currency" currency policy. Some will let the currency freely float against other currencies regardless of what the market does. The only currencies that will have the problem of being too strong are countries that have net exports as their currency will naturally get stronger as they sell products overseas, bring the profits home and buy the local currency. The problem is what happens when other countries manipulate the foreign currency exchange rate. Do they still follow an off-hands policy or do they intervene in the market? It is a race no country can win. It's obvious there are going to be wars to "solve this". When countrie are on economical dead ends, wars are manufactured. This massive debt has no happy ending. |