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Title: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 01, 2014, 07:32:05 PM

Hello,

 I am willing to offer anyone up to 20 BTC payment for identification information on JL777, the anonymous persona who operates in the NXT project.

 If you possess such information, or you believe you can obtain it, please contact me at josh.josh421@gmail.com.

 My hopes are two fold, 1) obviously looking to put an end to this ongoing harassment campaign, 2) looking to put NXT in check in considerations of their constant threats of violence and other forms of internet harassment.

 I would also probably be willing to pay for any level of information on NXT insiders you think might be useful.  I do have some information on JL777 and may be willing to share if you convince me that you have the right sort of intentions.

Thank you.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: S4VV4S on October 01, 2014, 07:42:21 PM
Acquiring the information you want is no problem with me other than the reason you want it.

Care to share the entire background on WHY should ANYONE give you sensitive info like that?

Money is not a good enough motive for giving you this info (I don't have it btw).

But why should anyone give you this information?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 01, 2014, 07:48:21 PM
The person behind the internet identity Jl777 has defrauded the public for well over 2 million USD.

I have been repeatedly posting critical information about his projects and he has initiated threats of violence and a constant harrassment campaign.  My identity is fully known and this information will be used to prevent further abuses by him and the "NXT Community".

I will pay in full, and I will consent to an arbiter to ensure full payment upon delivery of the information.

His last whereabouts were supposedly Buenos Aires.  He claims to be a Korean citizen but has never demonstrated knowledge of the Korean language.  I suspect he is either Dutch or American.  He claims to move from city to city.  I have other information that I will prefer not to publish as it may effect innocent parties.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 01, 2014, 07:52:47 PM
I also suspect he is on the run from the law.  He shows a level of sophistication regarding financial concepts and I tend to think he has a background running ponzi/schemes or other sorts of related fraud.

He is very careful about exposing his identity, rarely interacts with anyone outside of nxtforum.org.

He has repeatedly harassed me on the internet over the past few months, this includes threats of violence to my person.  More recently NXT had paid people to come after Jeff Garzik after he exposed the fact that the NXT software distribution did not match the source code.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: S4VV4S on October 01, 2014, 07:56:53 PM
I also suspect he is on the run from the law.  He shows a level of sophistication regarding financial concepts and I tend to think he has a background running ponzi/schemes or other sorts of related fraud.

He is very careful about exposing his identity, rarely interacts with anyone outside of nxtforum.org.

He has repeatedly harassed me on the internet over the past few months, this includes threats of violence to my person. More recently NXT had paid people to come after Jeff Garzik after he exposed the fact that the NXT software distribution did not match the source code.

Hmm, if what you say it's true then MAYBE I can help. MAYBE.

That being said, wasn't you accused of fraud of some altcoin recently?

Sorry, but I need to get things clear.

EDIT: I think it was NXT



Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 01, 2014, 08:00:23 PM
re. the accusations, they continually repeat them but refuse to legitimize them in any way.

I have already contacted the authorities regarding NXT so clearly there is no subterfuge going on here.  I emailed NYDFS last night and plan to follow up with the SEC.  I'm also in touch with my attorney concerning the defamation damages I recently sustained.  If these things need some resolution, it will happen in a 100% legal way.  I cannot further comment on the various details as there are legal implications.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bbit on October 01, 2014, 08:06:25 PM
The person behind the internet identity Jl777 has defrauded the public for well over 2 million USD.

I have been repeatedly posting critical information about his projects and he has initiated threats of violence and a constant harrassment campaign.  My identity is fully known and this information will be used to prevent further abuses by him and the "NXT Community".

I will pay in full, and I will consent to an arbiter to ensure full payment upon delivery of the information.

His last whereabouts were supposedly Buenos Aires.  He claims to be a Korean citizen but has never demonstrated knowledge of the Korean language.  I suspect he is either Dutch or American.  He claims to move from city to city.  I have other information that I will prefer not to publish as it may effect innocent parties.

Would this help ?

http://bitcoinbountyhunter.com/


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 01, 2014, 08:06:46 PM
to confirm - I am 100% serious, willing, and able to pay.
 
also willing to pay for identification information on any other prominent NXT people and information re. NXT you think the public deserves to know.

this is primarily a public service.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: S4VV4S on October 01, 2014, 08:08:40 PM
to confirm - I am 100% serious, willing, and able to pay.
 
also willing to pay for identification information on any other prominent NXT people and information re. NXT you think the public deserves to know.

this is primarily a public service.

Personally (even though I can get it anytime) I have no info on what you want.
But I do know who does.
But, again WHY should I give you this information?



Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 01, 2014, 08:13:09 PM
to confirm - I am 100% serious, willing, and able to pay.
 
also willing to pay for identification information on any other prominent NXT people and information re. NXT you think the public deserves to know.

this is primarily a public service.

Personally (even though I can get it anytime) I have no info on what you want.
But I do know who does.
But, again WHY should I give you this information?



as I mentioned, I want to resolve these ongoing problems stemming from Jl777's activities.  I do believe that if people were aware of the real-world person acting under this persona, most of these issues would be resolved.

I am first and foremost looking for his actual legal name, citizenship, and basic information anyone would require to do business with someone.  I will accept other offers, and I have no intention of initiating harm to anyone.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cozk on October 01, 2014, 08:14:59 PM
Name: James Lee
    Organization: James Lee
    City: Seattle
    State: WA
    Zip: 98105
    Country: US
    Phone: +1.2065274140
    Email: jameslee777@yahoo.com


Pm me for the address where to send my payment.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 01, 2014, 08:16:01 PM
also: it is generally assumed his name is James Lee.


this is the full address on the whois record.

James Lee
4739 University Way NE #1156
Seattle
WA
98105


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: HeroCat on October 01, 2014, 08:17:28 PM
Better take vacation and go to beach  ;D
Fighting with people is something which waste your time and efforts
Be smart !!!
PM for details where to send your BTC award  ;)


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 01, 2014, 08:17:50 PM
the record on James's website was already known and published.

there is some indicator he has ties to Seattle.

As I had already mentioned, if you have any information you feel is valuable, contact me first.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: CrackedLogic on October 01, 2014, 08:18:12 PM
Move this to services and you may gather more interest
Or try the trading  discussion.


Makes sense if his name is JL, the numbers could then be significant.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cozk on October 01, 2014, 08:19:01 PM
call him.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: nutildah on October 01, 2014, 08:19:41 PM
Wasn't this crazy lunatic banned (BlueMeanie)? He was at least dismissed as an outright thief/nutter some months ago. Please put this nutbird on ignore.

Do a google search for Blue Meanie + Josh Zeidner and see what comes up.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: MikeCorleone on October 01, 2014, 08:23:56 PM
All that info is freely on the whois reg. im sure OP looked there first. Although it didn't take 15 minutes to find out JL777's real identity.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 01, 2014, 08:24:23 PM
Wasn't this crazy lunatic banned (BlueMeanie)? He was at least dismissed as an outright thief/nutter some months ago. Please put this nutbird on ignore.

Do a google search for Blue Meanie + Josh Zeidner and see what comes up.

I think were all familiar with the accusations.  As I mentioned, I contacted NYS authorities yesterday and plan to follow up with the SEC and FBI.

'nutildah' is one of the forum logins who participated in some of the early smear campaigns when I began to criticize NXT.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 01, 2014, 08:25:47 PM
All that info is freely on the whois reg. im sure OP looked there first. Although it didn't take 15 minutes to find out JL777's real identity.

already aware of that whois record.

If you have some sort of information about NXT that ISN'T public that you feel might be useful, please let me know.  thanks.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: franky1 on October 01, 2014, 08:26:56 PM

forms of internet harassment


there's an ignore button for that
also realize that all harassment are directed at the name bluemeanie1 and jl777.. which are just words on a webpage directed at usernames that have no social security numbers or birth certificates.

i have had many scammers harass me because i have publicized their lies, and my response to their harassment, is humor. i would suggest to ignore those harassing you and realize that no words on a web page can affect your real life. so don't be the one that drags internet harassment into the real world. as you may find out that if you were to slap someone with a wet fish in real life, cops with slap cuffs on you.

so don't drop down to their level, realize your the better person and continue on with your life.

if this is not just harassment, but in fact a case where jl777 has stolen from you then and only then decide if you want to move forward and bring it into your real life


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Thomas-s on October 01, 2014, 08:28:50 PM
Wasn't this crazy lunatic banned (BlueMeanie)? He was at least dismissed as an outright thief/nutter some months ago. Please put this nutbird on ignore.

Do a google search for Blue Meanie + Josh Zeidner and see what comes up.

I think were all familiar with the accusations.  As I mentioned, I contacted NYS authorities yesterday and plan to follow up with the SEC and FBI.

'nutildah' is one of the forum logins who participated in some of the early smear campaigns when I began to criticize NXT.

Hahahahahah.
Police, he took away my internet monies!


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 01, 2014, 08:30:18 PM
Wasn't this crazy lunatic banned (BlueMeanie)? He was at least dismissed as an outright thief/nutter some months ago. Please put this nutbird on ignore.

Do a google search for Blue Meanie + Josh Zeidner and see what comes up.

I think were all familiar with the accusations.  As I mentioned, I contacted NYS authorities yesterday and plan to follow up with the SEC and FBI.

'nutildah' is one of the forum logins who participated in some of the early smear campaigns when I began to criticize NXT.

Hahahahahah.
Police; he took away my internet monies!

JL777 took in close to 2 MILLION USD worth of revenues from his ponzi schemes.  There were other indicators of similar sorts of crimes going on at NXT.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Thomas-s on October 01, 2014, 08:32:21 PM
Wasn't this crazy lunatic banned (BlueMeanie)? He was at least dismissed as an outright thief/nutter some months ago. Please put this nutbird on ignore.

Do a google search for Blue Meanie + Josh Zeidner and see what comes up.

I think were all familiar with the accusations.  As I mentioned, I contacted NYS authorities yesterday and plan to follow up with the SEC and FBI.

'nutildah' is one of the forum logins who participated in some of the early smear campaigns when I began to criticize NXT.

Hahahahahah.
Police; he took away my internet monies!

JL777 took in close to 2 MILLION USD worth of revenues from his ponzi schemes.  There were other indicators of similar sorts of crimes going on at NXT.
From which exactly?
Are you talking about the Supernet Ico?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 01, 2014, 08:33:36 PM

forms of internet harassment


there's an ignore button for that
also realize that all harassment are directed at the name bluemeanie1 and jl777.. which are just words on a webpage directed at usernames that have no social security numbers or birth certificates.

i have had many scammers harass me because i have publicized their lies, and my response to their harassment, is humor. i would suggest to ignore those harassing you and realize that no words on a web page can affect your real life. so don't be the one that drags internet harassment into the real world. as you may find out that if you were to slap someone with a wet fish in real life, cops with slap cuffs on you.

so don't drop down to their level, realize your the better person and continue on with your life.

if this is not just harassment, but in fact a case where jl777 has stolen from you then and only then decide if you want to move forward and bring it into your real life


it's far beyond a few forum posts.

The basic problem you have with NXT is they are a group of people who believe that the law does not apply to them.  In addition they feel they have the right to enact their own concept of justice even if it means causing harm, threats of violence or what have you.  The basic problem is they continue this harassment campaign against me in the form of insinuations that I did something illegal.  Some of these people may be liable for damages.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 01, 2014, 08:35:30 PM
Wasn't this crazy lunatic banned (BlueMeanie)? He was at least dismissed as an outright thief/nutter some months ago. Please put this nutbird on ignore.

Do a google search for Blue Meanie + Josh Zeidner and see what comes up.

I think were all familiar with the accusations.  As I mentioned, I contacted NYS authorities yesterday and plan to follow up with the SEC and FBI.

'nutildah' is one of the forum logins who participated in some of the early smear campaigns when I began to criticize NXT.

Hahahahahah.
Police; he took away my internet monies!

JL777 took in close to 2 MILLION USD worth of revenues from his ponzi schemes.  There were other indicators of similar sorts of crimes going on at NXT.
From which exactly?
Are you talking about the Supernet Ico?

I am not a judge nor am I an investigator.  I am someone who is in a position of constant threat and harassment being initiated by mostly anonymous people in the NXT project.  They do this because I have repeatedly criticized their project.  I wish for this harassment to end, and I wish to speak freely about what I know concerning this project.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cryptopaths on October 01, 2014, 08:47:14 PM
Is your creation of this thread fueled by this topic on the nxt forum: https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/cointelegraph-article-on-1m-nxt-bluemeanie-theft/

and in turn this article on cointelegraph: http://cointelegraph.com/news/112643/the-mystery-of-the-missing-1000000-nxt

Which both accuse you of unlawfully taking 1 million nxt.

Are you just going after NXT members like Jl in your defamation lawsuit or are you including cointelegraph?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: franky1 on October 01, 2014, 08:48:10 PM
insinuations that I did something illegal.

insinuations that "bluemeanie1" done something illegal. dont let the forum become your life. after all "sticks and stones can make you scream but names are just pixels on a screen"

continue to publicise any actions that can cause harm or loss to peoples real lives if they are scammers or theives, but try to stay rational and dont get emotional over words on a computer screen.

hmmm

seems its bluemeanie1 that received 1mill coins of an alt. so the shoe is on the other foot.
trying to get someone sued for defaming a usename is kind of funny. but actual harm or loss is a different story. whomever has been physically harmed or physically lost (im taking about funds.. not insults) the least should return what is not theirs


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 01, 2014, 08:51:37 PM
insinuations that I did something illegal.

insinuations that "bluemeanie1" done something illegal. dont let the forum become our life. after all "sticks and stones can make you scream but names are just pixels on a screen"

continue to publicise any actions that can cause harm or loss to peoples real lives if they are scammers or theives, but try to stay rational and dont get emotional over words on a computer screen.

these claims, which have gone far beyond a basic accusation- they are repeated incessant attempt at damaging my reputation - go far beyond an annoyance.  They were actually threatening me with violence at once point(one of many death threats on nxtforum.org).

I think these basic precautions and shedding some light on the situation will do everyone some good.  Jl777 is operating in the shadows for a reason.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 01, 2014, 08:55:40 PM
Is your creation of this thread fueled by this topic on the nxt forum: https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/cointelegraph-article-on-1m-nxt-bluemeanie-theft/

and in turn this article on cointelegraph: http://cointelegraph.com/news/112643/the-mystery-of-the-missing-1000000-nxt

Which both accuse you of unlawfully taking 1 million nxt.

Are you just going after NXT members like Jl in your defamation lawsuit or are you including cointelegraph?


It's my understanding that Jl777 paid Edward DeLeon Hickman to write this article.

Cointelegraph has featured and promoted Jl777's ponzi schemes in the past.

I've already contacted legal council about seeking restitution for damages.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cryptopaths on October 01, 2014, 08:57:25 PM
As the Chief of Crypto Police I have been monitoring this case for some time. I have irrefutable evidence and will proceed with it in time.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: franky1 on October 01, 2014, 08:58:39 PM
I think these basic precautions and shedding some light on the situation will do everyone some good.  Jl777 is operating in the shadows for a reason.

i ws trying to give some real live "get over it" advice. but seriously if you hav received 1mill coins. then return them. and realise you are probably a sad little man that gets emotional that others threaten to kill a pseudonym...

think out side of the box. and stop trying to blackmail people as it appears you are provoking drama in an extortion attempt now.

oh well another day, another laughter of drama


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 01, 2014, 08:59:36 PM
As the Chief of Crypto Police I have been monitoring this case for some time. I have irrefutable evidence and will proceed with it in time.

although you might consider this funny, Edward may be liable for tens of thousands of dollars in damages.

an experienced journalist would be well aware of the risks one takes in producing slander such as this.

if it's shown he took payment from someone on the NXT project this also indicates a total lack of journalistic integrity(I assumed that anyway).


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 01, 2014, 09:01:18 PM
I think these basic precautions and shedding some light on the situation will do everyone some good.  Jl777 is operating in the shadows for a reason.

i ws trying to give some real live "get over it" advice. but seriously if you hav received 1mill coins. then return them. and realise you are probably a sad little man that gets emotional that others threaten to kill a pseudonym...

think out side of the box. and stop trying to blackmail people as it appears you are provoking drama in an extortion attempt now.

oh well another day, another laughter of drama

I am in touch with the authorities and have been willing to resolve any disputes in a fully legal way from the start.

Extortions and demands for payment will not solve the problem, will not prevent further harassment and certainly will not resolve the problem in an acceptable way.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: nutildah on October 01, 2014, 09:03:34 PM
Hahahahahah.
Police, he took away my internet monies!

Why are you backing up a known thief / nutjob? The man is clearly a remorseless psychopath. I didn't lose a single dime to him but I am warning others that BlueMeanie is not to be trusted.

If you don't believe me, please take 5 seconds to do a Google search for BlueMeanie + Josh Zeidner.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: S4VV4S on October 01, 2014, 09:05:49 PM
I think these basic precautions and shedding some light on the situation will do everyone some good.  Jl777 is operating in the shadows for a reason.

i ws trying to give some real live "get over it" advice. but seriously if you hav received 1mill coins. then return them. and realise you are probably a sad little man that gets emotional that others threaten to kill a pseudonym...

think out side of the box. and stop trying to blackmail people as it appears you are provoking drama in an extortion attempt now.

oh well another day, another laughter of drama

Frank, if I was you I would let the game play and just watch....

Both of them, BlueMenie and NXT have fraud accusations against them.
My research has shown more dirt on NXT than BlueMenie (not that I am saying he is innocent) but,
I think the best thing to do is just sit and watch as things are unfold before outr eyes.

I am getting pop-corn.

Anybody want some? :)


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: franky1 on October 01, 2014, 09:08:23 PM
As the Chief of Crypto Police I have been monitoring this case for some time. I have irrefutable evidence and will proceed with it in time.

although you might consider this funny, Edward may be liable for tens of thousands of dollars in damages.
an experienced journalist would be well aware of the risks one takes in producing slander such as this.
if it's shown he took payment from someone on the NXT project this also indicates a total lack of journalistic integrity(I assumed that anyway).

firstly some positive support
cryptopaths is a 17yo student, not a cop.. so if he asks you privately for funds to investigate. dont pay him (yes he is known by many)

now then
1. words wrote down is libel.. not slander
2. unless everyone in your family, real life friendships, work colleagues know you as "bluemeanie1" there is no libel
3. if people in the real world did know you as "bluemeanie1" and that actions of media have caused some ACTUAL LOSS OR HARM to your REAL LIFE. meaning you have got sacked, or a girlfriend left you or you sustained real life injury or financial lose.. provably, there is no libel

p.S please take your teenage drama to the scam accusations thread as your drama is getting more laughable, than factual


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 01, 2014, 09:09:08 PM
I think these basic precautions and shedding some light on the situation will do everyone some good.  Jl777 is operating in the shadows for a reason.

i ws trying to give some real live "get over it" advice. but seriously if you hav received 1mill coins. then return them. and realise you are probably a sad little man that gets emotional that others threaten to kill a pseudonym...

think out side of the box. and stop trying to blackmail people as it appears you are provoking drama in an extortion attempt now.

oh well another day, another laughter of drama

Frank, if I was you I would let the game play and just watch....

Both of them, BlueMenie and NXT have fraud accusations against them.
My research has shown more dirt on NXT than BlueMenie (not that I am saying he is innocent) but,
I think the best thing to do is just sit and watch as things are unfold before outr eyes.

I am getting pop-corn.

Anybody want some? :)



not only is there a complete lack of any proof of wrong doing on my part, there is a complete lack of a formal accusation.  In the real world, we dont determine guilt by anonymous forum postings.  If someone continually reiterates this accusation, it's called harassment and defamation.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: franky1 on October 01, 2014, 09:11:31 PM

I am getting pop-corn.

Anybody want some? :)


ill have some.. im just laughing reading this crap from blue meanie.. he cant even get the difference between libel and slander right which means he aint got any 'legal' stuff happening in the background..

all this is doing is making bitcoin look like some teenagers comedy hour, and not a proper financial tool when people start reading these immiture rants of bitches that are puling at each others hair.

definitely a comedy moment, but not really something people need to read or care about


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bbit on October 01, 2014, 09:17:43 PM

I am getting pop-corn.

Anybody want some? :)


ill have some.. im just laughing reading this crap from blue meanie.. he cant even get the difference between libel and slander right which means he aint got any 'legal' stuff happening in the background..

all this is doing is making bitcoin look like some teenagers comedy hour, and not a proper financial tool when people start reading these immiture rants of bitches that are puling at each others hair.

definitely a comedy moment, but not really something people need to read or care about

Pulls up a chair. This is good!


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 01, 2014, 09:20:46 PM
As the Chief of Crypto Police I have been monitoring this case for some time. I have irrefutable evidence and will proceed with it in time.

although you might consider this funny, Edward may be liable for tens of thousands of dollars in damages.
an experienced journalist would be well aware of the risks one takes in producing slander such as this.
if it's shown he took payment from someone on the NXT project this also indicates a total lack of journalistic integrity(I assumed that anyway).

firstly some positive support
cryptopaths is a 17yo student, not a cop.. so if he asks you privately for funds to investigate. dont pay him (yes he is known by many)

now then
1. words wrote down is libel.. not slander
2. unless everyone in your family, real life friendships, work colleagues know you as "bluemeanie1" there is no libel
3. if people in the real world did know you as "bluemeanie1" and that actions of media have caused some ACTUAL LOSS OR HARM to your REAL LIFE. meaning you have got sacked, or a girlfriend left you or you sustained real life injury or financial lose.. provably, there is no libel

p.S please take your teenage drama to the scam accusations thread as your drama is getting more laughable, than factual


Excuse me but this is no teenage drama, I am no teenager.  Im a software professional.

They are attacking me under my real name, repeatedly.  What they don't understand is what they feel is going to be an effective way to silence a critic, is going to invite possibly fatal legal issues on just about everyone involved.  There are many known names working in this project doing questionably legal things.  Jl777 is, personality wise, a complete psychopath- is mostly disliked by people inside NXT, however they dont take action against him.  He incentives people to do his dirty work by distributing either NXT itself or shares in his ponzi assets.  These people typically have a dim understanding of the law and what risks theyre taking by acting out their various employment agreements, which range from social media promotion to online harassment.

To be completely clear with you, this whole experience taught me a lot about what this 'cryptocurrency' movement is really all about.  In many ways NXT is similar to Bitcoin, they imitate and attempt to apply some of the things Bitcoin did in the early years.  The problem is that NXT has no where near the level of brainpower so the faults show through, and some of these faults the bitcoin community shares.  There seems to be a breed of person who thinks these kinds of activities are justified ethically, even though their ethos is vague and poorly defined.  Many of these people are even vaguely aware of what the law actually IS.  Ross Ulbricht was this sort of person, he actually BELIEVED what he was doing was justified.  Im sure there are many on here who share that opinion(usually anonymously).

These projects pose a very serious danger to regular people because in a situation of anonymous cash payments, it's possible to incentivize people's behavior in ways that are untraceable.  This could result in absolutely horrific things like the Ross Ulbricht's supposed assassination attempt.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: sidhujag on October 01, 2014, 09:29:44 PM
NXT is done... what super net ICO?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: franky1 on October 01, 2014, 09:34:50 PM
Excuse me but this is no teenage drama, I am no teenager.  Im a software professional.

for a proper libel case to proceed you need to prove that you have in the reality of the real world. lost out.

from what i have read you have received millions of altcoins. so financially your in profit.
from what i have read you have suffered no physical injury
have you had anyone approach you at your house due to the news article
has (without you highlighting it to people you know) have anyone in your real life thought negatively about you due to your drama
has your car been reposessed
has a lien been put on any of your property
has colleague or real life work partners prevented you from doing things due to this drama
has your spouse/wife/girlfriend left you

if not then its not affected your real life.

i am all for you calling out NXT as a scam, infact i wouldnt touch it with a barge pole as i seen signs of scammy behavior myself with them lot. but atleast try being rational with your pokes and prods with them, as many reading this and probably even those scammers at nxt. are just laughing at you not with you.

your not doing yourself any favors and your just digging a deeper hole for yourself but getting to emotional about it.

feel free to highlight to the world proof of their scams,  but atleast be rational


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 01, 2014, 09:34:58 PM
NXT is done... what super net ICO?

I don't see it as a coincidence that these attacks ramped up when NXT hit the 0.02 range.

This was after Jeff Garzik proved that the NXT software(which has a special built-in downloader) image did not match the source code.



Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 01, 2014, 09:36:12 PM
frank1, just for the record you know absolutely nothing about the law.

Im not here to interact with you in your idle time between TV commercials.

Im here to make an offer to the community in this forum.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: franky1 on October 01, 2014, 09:38:24 PM
frank1, just for the record you know absolutely nothing about the law.

Im not here to interact with you in your idle time between TV commercials.

Im here to make an offer to the community in this forum.

lol yea go ahead try making a case for QUOTE: slander

ha ha ha


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: S4VV4S on October 01, 2014, 09:53:21 PM
frank1, just for the record you know absolutely nothing about the law.

Im not here to interact with you in your idle time between TV commercials.

Im here to make an offer to the community in this forum.

lol yea go ahead try making a case for QUOTE: slander

ha ha ha

Frank, common man, you are spoiling it....

I am waiting to see some dirt come to surface....
You are stuck on spelling mistakes.

Please, if you have some dirt to bring to the surface do it.
If not, just let things happen man.

I guess the "cock porn" went to waste....
Nothing fun here.

Anyways, I am off to bed.
Will check this thread tomorrow to see if any dirt with the ones involved comes to surface.

Till then
have fun and eat all your "cock porn" :)
LOL  ;D

EDIT: Btw is this the same NXT as the one in discussion?:
http://kolinevans.wordpress.com/2014/07/31/cryptocurrency-to-cryptocurrency-ipos-are-a-completely-corrupt-deception-the-simple-technical-guide/ (http://kolinevans.wordpress.com/2014/07/31/cryptocurrency-to-cryptocurrency-ipos-are-a-completely-corrupt-deception-the-simple-technical-guide/)
Sorry I am not into alt coins yet (soon though).



Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: nutildah on October 01, 2014, 10:04:01 PM
Boring.

BlueMeanie has some demons on his shoulders...

He can literally see them when his seroquel scrip runs out.

BlueMeanie, you know nothing about the law, period. None of the threats you are making will ever be followed through on because your legal justification for doing so is extremely flawed.

However, I do hope that the NXT team puts a bounty on your head to recover the NXT you stole from them.

Seriously people, type BlueMeanie + Josh Zeidner + NXT into Google and tell me what comes up. Tell me that this guy isn't a complete whackjob.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 01, 2014, 10:04:18 PM

EDIT: Btw is this the same NXT as the one in discussion?:
http://kolinevans.wordpress.com/2014/07/31/cryptocurrency-to-cryptocurrency-ipos-are-a-completely-corrupt-deception-the-simple-technical-guide/ (http://kolinevans.wordpress.com/2014/07/31/cryptocurrency-to-cryptocurrency-ipos-are-a-completely-corrupt-deception-the-simple-technical-guide/)
Sorry I am not into alt coins yet (soon though).


on the "72" initial NXT investors:  http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2gnsme/bitcoin_core_developer_jeff_garzik_believes_nxt/ckn24j6



Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: nutildah on October 01, 2014, 10:05:53 PM

on the "72" initial NXT investors:  http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2gnsme/bitcoin_core_developer_jeff_garzik_believes_nxt/ckn24j6



Your buddy Jeff Garzik has already proven his opinion on NXT to be 100% meaningless. He is just an angry hater. Probably recently got dumped by the only girlfriend he's ever had or something.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cinnamon_carter on October 01, 2014, 10:18:11 PM
i want to see what is going to happen here , this is by far one of the most unusual threads i have seen in a while on alt coins (and not even in that section !!)) 

heard plenty of rumors ; nobody knows......(well I don' have any useful info and even if I did I tend to respect peoples privacy so I would not divulge anyone for some btc)  still if a 'dishonest' project is 'running' it should not be.....

quite a while ago i asked for the source of nxt on one of their threads to 'study' out of genuine curiosity / I never got to review it much more than a few hours though since I was busy with other things.   I may go back now and review it if JG says it does not match what is released.
From studying work of him and others with his experience level on github and other places I have learned many things.   

I will step back out of the way now and be keeping an eye out.

Very curious where this is headed.



Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: romerun on October 01, 2014, 10:18:40 PM
not sure what's up with the obvious scam asset, but here's your guy

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=177323


Title: Jeff Garzik, NXT, Hash
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 01, 2014, 10:37:46 PM
I may go back now and review it if JG says it does not match what is released.

What J. Garzik did was pretty simple.  He basically took the distributed executable and the compiled the source code himself and hashed the two and they did not match.  This shows that the distribution was meant to APPEAR to match the source, but did not, and given that it could be literally ANYTHING[1].  Note also that there have been many many so called 'wallet hacking' incidents where people's balance had been totally stolen.  You really have NO guarantee as to what you are running.  His claims not only discredited NXT, it suggested exactly what I had been saying for a long time- that NXT is a fairly sophisticated criminal operation.  Garzik was also targeted with anonymous harassment attempts.  Anyone who has ever made these suggestions has been repeatedly harassed, note that most of the primary project members are 100% anonymous.

Just to put some things in perspective for you, almost 1 million USD worth of crypto literally disappeared in a series of so called hacking attempts.  Soon after one, the forum system administrator resigned.  There were indicators that the entire thing was planned.  Now hold that number in your head for moment and now consider that these constant accusations, even if you so choose to accept them, amount, in it's most severe case- to a dispute of roughly 20k USD.  This is the subject matter this reporter Edward DeLeon Hickman chose to focus on.  The incident happened roughly 4 months ago and their accusations have been aired, and responded to, many many times(perhaps not to their satisfaction).

[1] NXT also has a highly specialized updater feature that would indicate some sophisticated level of planning in this department.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Kora on October 01, 2014, 10:41:24 PM
http://i.imgur.com/1GiNXfk.jpg

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=801933.0


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: salsacz on October 01, 2014, 10:42:13 PM
More recently NXT had paid people to come after Jeff Garzik after he exposed the fact that the NXT software distribution did not match the source code.

nobody was paid, here is the response, Jeff exposed nothing, he was wrong, didn't know how to decompile binaries:
Quote
Gitian was created by Bitcoin devs to provide a deterministic way to build Bitcoin core software. The software is written in C++ which is compiled into assembly code and can't be easily reverted back into the source. Usage of Gitian requires a user to put trust into parties that verify source code, but this is a wrong way from my point of view (and PoV of suspect #1 on the role of Satoshi Nakamoto - http://nakamotoinstitute.org/trusted-third-parties/, - btw). A much better way is to use languages/technologies that preserve 100% of "open-sourceness" of the code. It's Java, C#, JavaScript to name a few. Programs written in these languages can be translated back into the source code (if obfuscation is not used).

Jeff says that "bytecode implants [into Java binaries] are trivial" but can't explain how it's even possible in real-world scenario. All that I got on my direct answer is a reply that looks as an attempt to derail the conversation. This is sad, Jeff, public figures like you shouldn't behave this way.

Regarding "users do /not/ build the binaries" (https://twitter.com/jgarzik/status/511868652648288256), check the archive, it contains the complete source code with the libraries and the building script. Those who trust Jean-Luc (lead Nxt dev) need just to check the hash of the archive. The binaries used by them can be easily decompiled should a question related to the original source code arise. Those who don't trust can build the binaries by themselves.

---

It's my understanding that Jl777 paid Edward DeLeon Hickman to write this article.
Nobody paid Edward DeLeon Hickman to write this article.

---

and jl777? he even doesn't know Java, while Nxt is based on Java. James is working on some projects built on top of Nxt, but James was never involved in Nxt core itself.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 01, 2014, 10:49:44 PM
just to clarify to the readers here, salsacz is a Czech NXT 'regular'.  He never came across to me as what I would call an 'insider'.  He is commonly ridiculed as inept and lame in various ways.  David aka 'Uniqueorn'[1] utterly despises this person.  He does commonly vouch and promote NXT and as far as I know he is also 100% anonymous.

[1] David is yet another long story.  This is a person who resides in Norway and commonly claims he has some kind of special relationship with Patrick Byrne - but can't discuss it because he signed NDAs.  He is also involved in the dubious 'NXTHaus' project.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bababooey on October 01, 2014, 11:17:48 PM
Wowsa, what an interesting thread! I am a newcomer to the cryptocoin world, I only heard of NXT recently. I thought it sounded interesting but now I don't know who to believe in this thread.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: S3MKi on October 01, 2014, 11:49:50 PM
bluemeanie1  what do you can say about that? http://cointelegraph.com/news/112643/the-mystery-of-the-missing-1000000-nxt


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 01, 2014, 11:56:49 PM
To state one more time, I am in touch with the authorities and legal council concerning these ongoing threats and accusations.

I have been advised that the author of that article Edward DeLeon Hickman may be liable for defamation damages.

Other details concerning these accusations are present throughout this thread, and in countless threads, responses, emails over the past 4 months.  I simply will not tolerate these constant harassment attempts.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: EvilDave on October 02, 2014, 12:08:32 AM
Joshua,....you're becoming a hilarious lunatic now.
Whats your following theory, did NXT assassinate Kennedy ?

Just going thru a random selection of stuff here:

U recieved 1 million NXT for work on one of jl777 projects, you then realised that you couldn't actually code and ran away with the megaNXT, while screaming that NXT was a scam and a massive conspiracy. Fair enough.....it's your life, but your actions cost a lot of people their investment in the project, which jl777 compensated out of his own pocket. You've never compensated any of the investors from your 1 million NXT, have you?

The Jeff G. related accusations are completely bonkers.....even Jeff never claimed that NXT has "a secret back door", though he did have some valid criicisms of NXT software development policy, tbh.

U continually refer to some mythical scam of 1 million USD on the NXT forums.....but this never happened.
Could you actually explain what event you are referring to?

"I simply will not tolerate these constant harassment attempts."
Well, why don't you try behaving like a reasonable human being, stop attacking NXT at every opportunity and return your stolen funds, then we'll stop posting the truth about you.


Great article, btw:
http://cointelegraph.com/news/112643/the-mystery-of-the-missing-1000000-nxt





Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 12:13:40 AM
Evil Dave is yet another person who lurks on the NXT forums and I believe he is also collaborating on some of the more serious criminal activity.

He appeared to be a collaborator in one of the hacking attempts that took place on the NXT forum.  He also apparently lives in Holland, along with many of the main NXT insider clique.  I believe he is of Irish origin.

He refuses to reveal his legal name, and tends to follow around my statements on the net with the sort of heckling you can see above.

EVIL DAVE: WHAT IS YOUR LEGAL NAME?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 12:16:49 AM
Evil Dave tends to typify the average NXTer.

The sort of person who has never attained any credential or any significant accomplishment of any kind in his life, has no real skills to offer the project(or anyone) aside from a steady flow of forum postings, most of which are done under an alternate name.  Basically your typical petty criminal sort of profile.  NXT tends to attract and retain this sort of person- to say the least we didn't click from the start.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: EvilDave on October 02, 2014, 12:31:12 AM
LOL....I love you too, Josh.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 12:35:26 AM
just to clarify yet again,  the reason why these people come out of the woodwork with these threats virtually every time I log onto the internet is very clear- I do believe many of them might end up incarcerated if the authorities ever catch with them.  There is a very good reason why Evil Dave will not reveal his legal name.  Jl777 at the minimum will face very serious fines for what he's done so far, and I imagine that if he's ever nabbed- he is likely to drag all these others into it as well.  It's fairly obvious these people are covering for each other.  Do you really think this is about a 4 month old dispute over 20k? anyone can see it's far bigger than that.  and it is.

Edward DeLeon Hickman is fairly new to party, I'm guessing jl777 roped him in with a cheap under the table payola offer and he really had no idea what he was getting into.

There was a lot of money stolen on the NXT forums, quite a bit of fraud, and loads of 'gray area' questionable activity.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 12:39:59 AM
LOL....I love you too, Josh.

not sure if you want to be joking around here Dave.  The US Federal Authorities have been contacted, in these cases- exhibiting insincerity in the face of such serious charges typically do not go over well.  Ross Ulbichts submissions to this very forum are an excellent example.  Not sure if Holland would extradite you, but I know just about every European Authority at the moment is looking to identify and prosecute people exactly like you.  They want scams like NXT eliminated.  Do you understand that?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: EvilDave on October 02, 2014, 12:44:11 AM
Which threats, oh slightly bonkers one ?

So far you've had one slightly sarcastic post, full of questions and truth, but I fail to see the threat there.

The defamation is coming along nicely, though:

Evil Dave is yet another person who lurks on the NXT forums and I believe he is also collaborating on some of the more serious criminal activity.

He appeared to be a collaborator in one of the hacking attempts that took place on the NXT forum.  He also apparently lives in Holland, along with many of the main NXT insider clique.  I believe he is of Irish origin.

He refuses to reveal his legal name, and tends to follow around my statements on the net with the sort of heckling you can see above.

Great detective work on me living in Amsterdam, btw. Sherlock Holmesian, even.

Evil Dave tends to typify the average NXTer.

The sort of person who has never attained any credential or any significant accomplishment of any kind in his life, has no real skills to offer the project(or anyone) aside from a steady flow of forum postings, most of which are done under an alternate name.  Basically your typical petty criminal sort of profile.  NXT tends to attract and retain this sort of person- to say the least we didn't click from the start.

Yep, NXT: the crypto-currency for the petty thug.
Which alternate name, btw ?.....I've only got one sockpuppet and I use him about once a year.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Bonam on October 02, 2014, 12:44:44 AM
I am first and foremost looking for his actual legal name, citizenship, and basic information anyone would require to do business with someone.  I will accept other offers, and I have no intention of initiating harm to anyone.

Name: James Lee
    Organization: James Lee
    City: Seattle
    State: WA
    Zip: 98105
    Country: US
    Phone: +1.2065274140
    Email: jameslee777@yahoo.com


Pm me for the address where to send my payment.

also: it is generally assumed his name is James Lee.


this is the full address on the whois record.

James Lee
4739 University Way NE #1156
Seattle
WA
98105

So you were looking for his name and "other basic info" for 20 BTC, someone posted that name and info, then a minute later you replied declaring that you already knew the name and looking instead for "not public" info? What info exactly will satisfy your requirement for 20 BTC or are you gonna keep moving the goal posts?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: zolace on October 02, 2014, 12:46:27 AM
I sent some info that might match him but i guess i wont see a reward


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 12:51:28 AM
a few professional people have already contacted me.  I already have some info that looks to be authentic, but waiting to have it confirmed and the researcher compensated before they are published.

I made myself clear earlier, if you want to be eligible for the payment, contact me FIRST so we can discuss the nature of the information.  Sending me things I already know does not get you an award.  Im assuming some of the people here are more NXT anons trying to disrupt this thread.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: EvilDave on October 02, 2014, 12:52:16 AM
LOL....I love you too, Josh.

not sure if you want to be joking around here Dave.  The US Federal Authorities have been contacted, in these cases- exhibiting insincerity in the face of such serious charges typically do not go over well.  Ross Ulbichts submissions to this very forum are an excellent example.  Not sure if Holland would extradite you, but I know just about every European Authority at the moment is looking to identify and prosecute people exactly like you.  They want scams like NXT eliminated.  Do you understand that?

I so do want to be joking, because you are so completely wrong, it's bordering on satire already....hence the LOL.
I've got one unbreakable little trick up my sleeve here: NXT is not a scam and I am not actually a 'petty criminal' , funnily enough.
I've also got a whole shed load of truth and evidence to back me up, while you are the guy frothing at the mouth, making threats and completely untrue accusations.

Any law enforcement agency who took your accusations seriously intially, will end up prosecuting your ass, just for completely wasting their time.
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

@Zolace, nope, your chances of seeing a reward are pretty slim, IMHO


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bitranger on October 02, 2014, 12:52:27 AM
just to clarify yet again,  the reason why these people come out of the woodwork with these threats virtually every time I log onto the internet is very clear- I do believe many of them might end up incarcerated if the authorities ever catch with them.  There is a very good reason why Evil Dave will not reveal his legal name.  Jl777 at the minimum will face very serious fines for what he's done so far, and I imagine that if he's ever nabbed- he is likely to drag all these others into it as well.  It's fairly obvious these people are covering for each other.  Do you really think this is about a 4 month old dispute over 20k? anyone can see it's far bigger than that.  and it is.

Edward DeLeon Hickman is fairly new to party, I'm guessing jl777 roped him in with a cheap under the table payola offer and he really had no idea what he was getting into.

There was a lot of money stolen on the NXT forums, quite a bit of fraud, and loads of 'gray area' questionable activity.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212841.140

BlueMeanie is Joshua Zeidner, a java developer who contacted me a year or two ago regarding Open-Transactions and tried to start a company with me.

At the time he was very pro-Open-Transactions, and he was pushing very hard to come out to L.A. and work on a Java version of OT with me. He wanted to go right down to the courthouse and register a company so we could work on it together.

However, Johann and I ended up having to part ways with Josh due to his aggressive and toxic torpedoing of business relationships. (Several people can attest to this.) I regret that I ever had any dealings with Joshua Zeidner.

We are focused on building products, and won't engage further with Josh.

Anyone who has further questions can reach me at chris@monetas.net.

When living in a glass house, it is best not to sing to loudly


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 12:56:25 AM
Chris Odom and the Open Transactions project was an earlier fraud project that I outed.  Those claims have also been addressed.  Chris was apparently a bit more astute in terms of what is legal to say about someone you are driven to destroy.

on a side note: Ian Knowles claims that Chris Odom cleaned out the project donations for his 'Money Changer' (the project he was trying to get me to work on) and skipped out with it.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: EvilDave on October 02, 2014, 12:57:40 AM
@BitRanger:
That's pretty much a blow-by-blow replay of Joshua's relationship with NXT.

"someone you are driven to destroy"
Nice drama line, I can hear James Earl Jones intoning it........
But seriously: we don't want to destroy you, BM, we'd just like our NXT back, please, and if you could stop with the spreading insane conspiracy theories and threatening to call in the National Guard, that would also be nice.



Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bitranger on October 02, 2014, 01:09:38 AM
Chris Odom and the Open Transactions project was an earlier fraud project that I outed.  Those claims have also been addressed.  Chris was apparently a bit more astute in terms of what is legal to say about someone you are driven to destroy.

on a side note: Ian Knowles claims that Chris Odom cleaned out the project donations for his 'Money Changer' (the project he was trying to get me to work on) and skipped out with it.

What i have discovered in my 40 plus years of dealing with people is

Truth does not belong to the one who shouts the loudest
just sayin


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 01:14:18 AM
Chris Odom is an internet marketer who before proclaiming his expertise in cryptocurrencies was a professional 'pick up artist'.  

http://www.venusianarts.com/about-us/

Very similar to NXT, I showed up with a naive curiosity.  Within roughly 2 weeks of arriving at this project, Chris claimed he had access to millions of dollars in venture capital.  All these things are on chat record.  There was another person involved by the name of Johann Gevers who I would later discover was prohibited from entering the US legally(I would never find out why).  A number of people were involved in what Chris was attempting to make out to be a huge business deal.  At one point I almost involved a friend I've known for years through my e-commerce connections.  Johann was overly eager to get me to sign an incorporation agreement for the Isle of Nevis.  As the details started to emerge as to who these people were, I advised my investor friend to back out.  Johann started to get furious, I was later to find out that my friend was the only actual investor with money to contribute.  As for the technology itself, *the only reason I was involved in the first place* it came to light the software did not live up to Chris' claims.  To this day, no working technology has ever emerged.

Chris and Johann are tangentially involved in NXT, there was one person I met through NXT who actually claimed to have met them(NXTHaus).  As soon as I heard their names, I started getting a bit more internally critical of what was going on around there.

To say the least, this region is in need of some major cleanup.  I absolutely applaud Ben Lawsky's efforts to reign in all this activity.  These projects are festering pits of crime and derangement, and that goes for practically every one.  I officially have ZERO interest in any existing crypto project.  I assume they are all scams and this situation will persist until Lawsky et al. cleans things up.  I dont plan to further involve myself in this space as a developer until I see a major qualitative change in how things operate.  Regulation is NEEDED 100%.  Those who are resisting it are those who foresee their illicit income streams coming to an end.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: zolace on October 02, 2014, 01:15:51 AM
yeah im a next anon also, how did you know? 


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 01:40:54 AM
This much is clear, someone like me cannot take on this corruption as an individual.

It needs to be a systemic supported effort.  I see Lawsky's initiatives as 100% positive because virtually NONE of these sorts of characters will continue to operate.  Criminals like this smell the little legal nooks and crannies they can wiggle into and operate in way that works for them.  Personally I was never interested in operating like this, it's just not my style and it never was.  In reality we've been through all these things before, there have been periods in the US(Wildcat Banking) where activities like this proliferated like mushrooms.

Anyone who is banking on the long term survival of these scam operations will come out on the losing end of things.  If you can't see what's coming, you can't see the forest for the trees.  Crypto might have some interesting applications for the future, but those projects that are designed as tools for legal evasion certainly will not sustain the long term.  There is nothing particularly privileged about a Block Chain and there are no barriers to managing and regulating technologies that use them.  It seems there is some kind of credo out there that demands that such forms of software WILL and MUST resist all attempts at legal categorization and subsequent regulation- and those people are seriously kidding themselves.  NXT never had any long term legs, it was just a story held in place by anonymous scam artists who, when the public catches on, will probably vanish like a fart in a windstorm.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 01:56:25 AM
Basically the way all these technologies work is each participant in the network republishes all of the transaction information.  The 'consensus' is the key factor that allows a network to have a consistent and verifiable record of transaction data.  We learned after Bitcoin that this transaction data could be virtually anything.  I was, arguably, one of the earliest people to demonstrate this theoretical fact.  As far as I know, I was the first person to use the term 'Asset Exchange' in this cryptocurrency context.

The problem is though is that these technologies are compelling for the simple and sole reason that regulators do not understand them.  yet.  There is no reason why they will not understand them better in the future.  You could create a law for instance that holds the individual liable for the republishing of transaction data.  Literally you are a financial information service by running a Bitcoin client.  There are other interesting aspects as well- for instance every single person who runs a bitcoin wallet is hosting, and republishing, links to child pornography.  Let's expand this to more severe scenarios- what if people start posting sensitive personal information about people to the block chain, do we not hold the people accountable who republished it?  our legal concepts say we absolutely should.

There is an overwhelming sense of self-righteousness among the people here that is about to get a major and severe correction.  Those who insist will be relegated to the gutter of crime and punishment.  There will be no more second chances, slaps on the wrist, and clueless inept agencies.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 02, 2014, 02:20:55 AM
Hi, BM!  Will you please share your professional opinion on my personality, reputation, and position in the Nxt community?  You have pegged my friends in the community so well!  IT'S LIKE YOU'RE INSIDE EVERYBODY'S HEADS.  I feel left out that you haven't deconstructed me too. :'(


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 02:24:12 AM
You would be the single mom in Michigan who posts emo poetry, pictures of her daughter AND pornography to her Tumblr?

http://cobaltskky.tumblr.com/

It's somewhat fascinating to me how NXT seems to attract every species of dysfunction.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 02, 2014, 02:34:16 AM
You would be the single mom in Michigan who posts emo poetry, pictures of her daughter AND pornography to her Tumblr?

http://cobaltskky.tumblr.com/

It's somewhat fascinating to me how NXT seems to attract every species of dysfunction.

Yay!  I've been meanied!

I think "dysfunction" is a very judgmental word.  I've heard some people refer to you as dysfunctional.

EDIT: While I was having a smoke(yes, I smoke too), I realized that you don't have some crucial information about the extent of my dysfunctions.  So let me provide you with them:

1.) I'm a lesbian.

2.) I go weeks (and some times months!) without shaving my legs or arm pits.

3.) I swear.  A WHOLE FUCKING LOT.

4.) I'm into kink.

5.) I play gratuitously violent video games.

6.) I prefer polyamorous relationships to monogamous relationships.

I share this to show that I'm an authentic, multidimensional person that feels no shame in who she is.  Now, in the interest of an authentic conversation, will you please reciprocate by sharing with us some of your "dysfunctions?"


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Dabs on October 02, 2014, 02:36:03 AM
Hi. I'm neutral and this does not involve me, but let me know if you need escrow. I can hold the 20 until you decide to pay it to someone. (Standard Fee applies.)


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: habraken on October 02, 2014, 02:52:06 AM
Blockchain does not lie.
Bluemeanie received one million NXT.
Give it back.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: eB101 on October 02, 2014, 03:50:28 AM
BM,
You seem to try to put every nxt holders in the same bag, and identify them as 'criminals'. This is pathetic (if not paranoid). Guess what:
1. You or James are not the center of the world, not even the center of Nxt.
2. Nxt is not a community of 10 or '72' people, but thousands of serious followers.
3. Leave us alone, leave us in peace. Please keep your personal matters or revenge for yourself and pm whoever you want. We are all old enough to make our own judgements and decisions. thanks

PS: I read your posts on disqus.com and it seems that your problem is not only against James but especially about Nxt. If you are using him to try to destroy our nice community, guess what: try again.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: fumanchu808 on October 02, 2014, 04:19:34 AM
Well if anyone does send in information for a bounty, I'd highly recommend using some kind of escrow agreement because welll...

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112643/the-mystery-of-the-missing-1000000-nxt  (http://cointelegraph.com/news/112643/the-mystery-of-the-missing-1000000-nxt)


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: DarkhorseofNxt on October 02, 2014, 05:06:17 AM
-deleted- pointless to argue with you.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: thompete on October 02, 2014, 05:08:51 AM
did they scam the users for Unity token that they launched?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: DarkhorseofNxt on October 02, 2014, 05:11:31 AM
did they scam the users for Unity token that they launched?

Correction. Bluemeanie ran away with 1,000,000 nxt, a fund collected via Nxt Ae thru an asset named Nxtautodac.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: habraken on October 02, 2014, 05:15:52 AM
did they scam the users for Unity token that they launched?

Correction. Bluemeanie ran away with 1,000,000 nxt, a fund collected via Nxt Ae thru an asset named Nxtautodac.

And he's doing everything he can to draw attention away from that (blockchain provable) fact. That's why he screams so loudly and accuses other people, and entire communities, of being criminals. He hopes to draw attention away from his own theft.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: fumanchu808 on October 02, 2014, 05:42:10 AM
More recently NXT had paid people to come after Jeff Garzik after he exposed the fact that the NXT software distribution did not match the source code.

nobody was paid, here is the response, Jeff exposed nothing, he was wrong, didn't know how to decompile binaries:
Quote
Gitian was created by Bitcoin devs to provide a deterministic way to build Bitcoin core software. The software is written in C++ which is compiled into assembly code and can't be easily reverted back into the source. Usage of Gitian requires a user to put trust into parties that verify source code, but this is a wrong way from my point of view (and PoV of suspect #1 on the role of Satoshi Nakamoto - http://nakamotoinstitute.org/trusted-third-parties/, - btw). A much better way is to use languages/technologies that preserve 100% of "open-sourceness" of the code. It's Java, C#, JavaScript to name a few. Programs written in these languages can be translated back into the source code (if obfuscation is not used).

Jeff says that "bytecode implants [into Java binaries] are trivial" but can't explain how it's even possible in real-world scenario. All that I got on my direct answer is a reply that looks as an attempt to derail the conversation. This is sad, Jeff, public figures like you shouldn't behave this way.

Regarding "users do /not/ build the binaries" (https://twitter.com/jgarzik/status/511868652648288256), check the archive, it contains the complete source code with the libraries and the building script. Those who trust Jean-Luc (lead Nxt dev) need just to check the hash of the archive. The binaries used by them can be easily decompiled should a question related to the original source code arise. Those who don't trust can build the binaries by themselves.

---

It's my understanding that Jl777 paid Edward DeLeon Hickman to write this article.
Nobody paid Edward DeLeon Hickman to write this article.

---

and jl777? he even doesn't know Java, while Nxt is based on Java. James is working on some projects built on top of Nxt, but James was never involved in Nxt core itself.

Wait, wait. To be fair I will be paid by Cointelegraph as the story is currently ranked in their top 10 (out of 277 stories mind you). In fact because of Cointelgraphs amazing tracking system the more he rambles on like this, encouraging people to post the story (even if just to show the blockchain evidence), the more they will pay me in the end.

So by all means, post bounties, make idle threats, call for our heads! Just means more Satoshi for me.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: achimsmile on October 02, 2014, 05:55:37 AM
Bluemeanie1 recieved 1 million NXT from james, which he never gave back:

Proof is in the blockchain: http://nxtreporting.com/?tr=9677367184378728685


so, Josh, where's the proof that james "stole" 2 million USD?
Funny that you're the only one saying this. Don't you think that the guys that lost that kind of money would be angry too? Where are they?

Look, if you really recieved a death threat (proof?), then that's sad and shoud be taken seriously. I do not support such actions of individuals.

case closed


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: DarkhorseofNxt on October 02, 2014, 06:15:08 AM
I would also like to Highlight here, that James compensated your theft with his make good asset jlh. I personally was reimbursed with 26,000/38,000 nxt by James. So what do you mean by he cheated? You on the other hand took the money!


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: mczarnek on October 02, 2014, 06:31:04 AM
re. the accusations, they continually repeat them but refuse to legitimize them in any way.

I have already contacted the authorities regarding NXT so clearly there is no subterfuge going on here.  I emailed NYDFS last night and plan to follow up with the SEC.  I'm also in touch with my attorney concerning the defamation damages I recently sustained.  If these things need some resolution, it will happen in a 100% legal way.  I cannot further comment on the various details as there are legal implications.

Does this help?

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112643/the-mystery-of-the-missing-1000000-nxt

bluemeanie.. could you please explain that 1 million Nxt sent to that wallet?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: EvilDave on October 02, 2014, 08:41:35 AM
Yay! for kinky lesbians.....Boo! to paranoid Blue Meanies.

*cut*

To say the least, this region is in need of some major cleanup.  I absolutely applaud Ben Lawsky's efforts to reign in all this activity.  These projects are festering pits of crime and derangement, and that goes for practically every one. I officially have ZERO interest in any existing crypto project.  I assume they are all scams and this situation will persist until Lawsky et al. cleans things up.  I dont plan to further involve myself in this space as a developer until I see a major qualitative change in how things operate.  Regulation is NEEDED 100%.  Those who are resisting it are those who foresee their illicit income streams coming to an end.

So, your official position now is that all crypto projects, including BTC, are scams?
And that you have been working as a sort of lone crusader against crypto ?
Cleverly infiltrating all of these deeply evil projects in order to expose them?

So, you won't have any issue with returning the million NXT that you recieved, in order to compensate victims of these terrible scams?

BTW: Benjamin Lawskys Twitter is:
https://twitter.com/BenLawsky


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Cassius on October 02, 2014, 09:10:35 AM
Watching. With interest.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bloggersjoy on October 02, 2014, 09:15:12 AM
I am ready to find more information about JL777. I am sending a PM so please talk.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: LiQio on October 02, 2014, 09:38:34 AM
OP, bottom line after reading this thread:

bluemeanie / Joshua Zeidner is a scammer (proven = guilty) *

jl777 / James could be a scammer (no proof = not guilty)


* proof:
received money for project -> didn't deliever -> didn't return money
=
theft


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: rugrats on October 02, 2014, 11:36:19 AM
I have big gaps of knowledge involving this subject, and possess far from enough information to make any sort of definitive judgement here - not that I would want to get involved at all.
However, I will say this - no one will be able to dox JL777 without his approval.

I say this because as crazy as I am about privacy, I have never even entertained the idea of using a mail drop forwarding service!
Considering the fact that the service was set up before James even started to rev things up at Ripple and Nxt, I'd say he had a clear vision of his future decisions.
And for what it's worth, I'm quite certain James Lee is a pseudonym, just like the several throwaway email addresses which he uses.

Fyi, bluemeanie, JL777 and J1777 brings up different trails, you know. Just saying...


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: zondic on October 02, 2014, 02:00:38 PM
I am posting with my new account since my old one has been hacked and stolen. I will tell just one thing after reading this whole discussion. I am not too familiar with both sides but it seems to me that the blockchain doesn't lie!


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: achimsmile on October 02, 2014, 04:40:09 PM
I am posting with my new account since my old one has been hacked and stolen. I will tell just one thing after reading this whole discussion. I am not too familiar with both sides but it seems to me that the blockchain doesn't lie!

bingo!


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 02, 2014, 04:54:38 PM
I am posting with my new account since my old one has been hacked and stolen. I will tell just one thing after reading this whole discussion. I am not too familiar with both sides but it seems to me that the blockchain doesn't lie!

I'm sure a Nxter hacked you.  It's a h4X0rco1n after all. lololol

(PS I'm being wry.)


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: martismartis on October 02, 2014, 05:07:37 PM
Is BM in mental hospital already? Too quite here today :)


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 02, 2014, 05:16:31 PM
Is BM in mental hospital already? Too quite here today :)

I think he ran away once he realized that he awoke the sleeping Nxt giant. lol


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 06:11:21 PM
Is BM in mental hospital already? Too quite here today :)

 sleeping Nxt giant. lol

more like the Nxt dying cow that no longer gives milk.

http://i.imgur.com/CNelqzJ.png



Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: CIYAM on October 02, 2014, 06:24:18 PM
on a side note: Ian Knowles claims that Chris Odom cleaned out the project donations for his 'Money Changer' (the project he was trying to get me to work on) and skipped out with it.

Just to correct this - I had mentioned that the funds for the "Money Changer" project had disappeared but I never said that this was something nefarious (I have no idea exactly what happened with that - and I have never accused him of doing anything wrong and no-one has complained to me about *not being paid* for any work that they did).


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 06:27:45 PM
on a side note: Ian Knowles claims that Chris Odom cleaned out the project donations for his 'Money Changer' (the project he was trying to get me to work on) and skipped out with it.

Just to correct this - I had mentioned that the funds for the "Money Changer" project had disappeared but I never said that this was something nefarious (I have no idea exactly what happened with that - and I have never accused him of doing anything wrong and no-one complained to me about *not being paid* for any work that they did).


Hi Ian,

  My statement is in line with what I recall from our conversation.  You had indicated that Chris clandestinely emptied the donation account for his "Moneychanger" project.

  You also mentioned to me that Chris Odom failed to compensate a developer by the name of Jason I believe.  Who was this developer?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: CIYAM on October 02, 2014, 06:31:00 PM
 My statement is in line with what I recall from our conversation.  You had indicated that Chris clandestinely emptied the donation account for his "Moneychanger" project.

It was *his* project and his project tasks so it was always up to him what funds to have there (i.e. nothing *clandestine* if it he wants to move the funds - all I had said was that he did so and didn't inform me - but he was under no obligation to inform me).

 You also mentioned to me that Chris Odom failed to compensate a developer by the name of Jason I believe.  Who was this developer?

It was Shane (Xenland) that I had mentioned - but in fact Chris *did* pay him (Shane told me so himself about a month ago or so).


Title: Re: nxt scam
Post by: LiQio on October 02, 2014, 07:20:36 PM
man i knew nxt was always bad news, thanks to that bitcoin developer that had the balls to make a statement against it, we small fish cant do much to save ppl.

Yeah, saving the world is tough work  ::)

We're lucky that there are guys that are better at it: http://cointelegraph.com/news/112643/the-mystery-of-the-missing-1000000-nxt
You, Nekomata, should read it  ;)


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: achimsmile on October 02, 2014, 07:21:03 PM
Good to read you CIYAM!

And thank you for clarifying.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Kprawn on October 02, 2014, 07:21:54 PM
Some scary shit in the Nxt scene it seems. Great plot for a movie. ;D Will make Dallas look like a kids series. Hannah Montana on steroids. 

It's a very interesting read though. {Crunch crunch popcorn stuff}

Will the last one, put off the lights please.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: redsn0w on October 02, 2014, 07:30:40 PM
Some scary shit in the Nxt scene it seems. Great plot for a movie. ;D Will make Dallas look like a kids series. Hannah Montana on steroids. 

It's a very interesting read though. {Crunch crunch popcorn stuff}

Will the last one, put off the lights please.

Something like this .gif ?


http://www.gifday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/DDMBW.gif

--- However I'm watching .


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 07:41:09 PM
An Anti-Jl777 Coalition Forms Inside NXT

https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/anti-%27jl777%27-coalition/msg111701/?topicseen#msg111701

What I expect to happen is the people who were engaging in criminal activity will resist or sabotage this as more than likely jl777 has damning evidence against them aka 'dirt'.  If Jl777 gets nailed, a lot of people will be dragged down with him.  It's fairly easy to see who are the insiders by reading this thread.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: AT101ET on October 02, 2014, 07:42:44 PM
Does someone want to summarise this thread in one post clearly?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: achimsmile on October 02, 2014, 07:44:23 PM
Does someone want to summarise this thread in one post clearly?


Bluemeanie1 recieved 1 million NXT from jl777, which he never gave back:

Proof is in the blockchain: http://nxtreporting.com/?tr=9677367184378728685

no proof of accusations against jl777 was provided.

Read this: http://cointelegraph.com/news/112643/the-mystery-of-the-missing-1000000-nxt


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: habraken on October 02, 2014, 07:48:25 PM
An Anti-Jl777 Coalition Forms Inside NXT

https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/anti-%27jl777%27-coalition/msg111701/?topicseen#msg111701

What I expect to happen is the people who were engaging in criminal activity will resist or sabotage this as more than likely jl777 has damning evidence against them aka 'dirt'.  If Jl777 gets nailed, a lot of people will be dragged down with him.  It's fairly easy to see who are the insiders by reading this thread.

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090707045712/uncyclopedia/images/8/83/A_Sock_Puppet.jpg


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: achimsmile on October 02, 2014, 07:49:29 PM
Does someone want to summarise this thread in one post clearly?

here's my summary:  You need to kill the head vampire to rid yourself of the undead.

this is a death threat. Will contact the police.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: habraken on October 02, 2014, 07:51:06 PM
Does someone want to summarise this thread in one post clearly?

here's my summary:  You need to kill the head vampire to rid yourself of the undead.

this is a death threat. Will contact the police.

Good job, now you are in contact with the authorities.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Damelon on October 02, 2014, 07:53:56 PM
Just dropping in to say "hi" to Bluemeanie :)


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: martismartis on October 02, 2014, 07:55:05 PM
Is BM in mental hospital already? Too quite here today :)

 sleeping Nxt giant. lol

more like the Nxt dying cow that no longer gives milk.

http://i.imgur.com/CNelqzJ.png



Is this lie detector extract of BM? :)


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: LiQio on October 02, 2014, 07:57:36 PM
Does someone want to summarise this thread in one post clearly?

here's my summary:  You need to kill the head vampire to rid yourself of the undead.

Head vampire
http://i.share.pho.to/c84eab83_c.jpeg


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 07:57:56 PM
More than likely they are turning on jl777 because they fear he is going to be identified and don't want to look as though they are collaborating with him.

Don't think jl777 can be doxed?  He's left records on a few major internet services such as Skype and Yahoo and if the FBI wants to find him, they will.  His other option is to be on the run for life residing in 3rd world countries that don't speak english.  I imagine he needs to make a decision at this point, either pursue a (short) life of crime, or step out of the shadows and own up to what he's done.  Jl777 has an unbelievably wrathful and obsessive personality(he's similar to Ross Ulbricht in a lot of ways), and this is what creates his problems.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: LiQio on October 02, 2014, 08:07:15 PM
bluemeanie / Joshua Zeidner is a scammer (proven = guilty) *

jl777 / James could be a scammer (no proof = not guilty)


* proof:
received money for project -> didn't deliver -> didn't return money
=
theft


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: nutildah on October 02, 2014, 08:25:06 PM
Don't think jl777 can be doxed?  He's left records on a few major internet services such as Skype and Yahoo and if the FBI wants to find him, they will.  

The FBI doesn't want to find him, because they don't care, because there is nothing to care about.

Have you looked into getting prescribed Geodon? I'm sure its better than seroquel or olanzapine or whatever antipsychotic your doc currently has you on.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Damelon on October 02, 2014, 08:26:14 PM
More than likely they are turning on jl777 because they fear he is going to be identified and don't want to look as though they are collaborating with him.

Don't think jl777 can be doxed?  He's left records on a few major internet services such as Skype and Yahoo and if the FBI wants to find him, they will.  His other option is to be on the run for life residing in 3rd world countries that don't speak english.  I imagine he needs to make a decision at this point, either pursue a (short) life of crime, or step out of the shadows and own up to what he's done.  Jl777 has an unbelievably wrathful and obsessive personality(he's similar to Ross Ulbricht in a lot of ways), and this is what creates his problems.

You are funny, BM :)
Turning one person, who has a new account and makes a post on our forums into "they".  :D

Looking forward to your coming escapades. They make for good reading.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 08:32:38 PM
If you maniacs believe I am the only person who wants Jl777 taken down, you're about to learn something.

Half of the NXT developers themselves despise him.  Antonis, owner of http://nxtblocks.info/ explicitly refused to have any dealing with him whatsoever.  At the time he issued these warnings to me, I had no idea who any of these people even were.  Most of the developers, such as Dirk and your other friend David seemed to have a measure of both fear and admiration for jl777- again at the time I had no idea why.

Bas Wisselink- do you believe that Jl777 has done anything unethical?

since you decided to grace us with your presence and take a break from your yoga mat business, why not tell us all what YOU think of jl777?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: devphp on October 02, 2014, 08:40:17 PM
Oh, that's where you guys are hiding. Stop entertaining this bluemeanie thief already, he's an attention whore as well as a criminal. Hashes match, authorities have been notified.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 08:40:37 PM
I also want to note: I have a similar outstanding offer regarding information on the author NXT allegedly paid to write the smear article, Edward DeLeon Hickman:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=808029


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Damelon on October 02, 2014, 08:42:22 PM
Bas Wisselink- do you believe that Jl777 has done anything unethical?

since you decided to grace us with your presence and take a break from your yoga mat business, why not tell us all what YOU think of jl777?

It's yu who wants to go to court, dear Josh, not me. :)

You are barking up the wrong tree here.

Oh, I know, you want to push me into a position where you can say "If you keep silent, you condone what he is doing."

However, I am silent on many things, up to and including dogs, the general state of the world, marmite and the whereabouts of Carmen Sandiego.

As you have already proven to have no scruples whatsoever in your crusade against anything that you deem in need of eradication, I see no reason to play your silly little games.  ;)


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 08:45:35 PM
The reason why Bas Wisselink refuses to make a statement regarding jl777 is precisely due to everything I've been claiming so far.

He is well aware that jl777 is doing something illegal - and that there is criminal activity happening inside NXT.

There have been countless thefts, frauds, and other assorted crimes during the last few months at NXT, Bas Wisselink said absolutely nothing- aside from raising accusations against me any time people caught on.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: nutildah on October 02, 2014, 08:47:54 PM

There have been countless thefts, frauds, and other assorted crimes during the last few months at NXT,

Yes we know, you've perpetrated at least a handful of them.

So when are you going to return the million NXT that you stole?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Damelon on October 02, 2014, 08:51:35 PM
The reason why Bas Wisselink refuses to make a statement regarding jl777 is precisely due to everything I've been claiming so far.

He is well aware that jl777 is doing something illegal - and that there is criminal activity happening inside NXT.

There have been countless thefts, frauds, and other assorted crimes during the last few months at NXT, Bas Wisselink said absolutely nothing- aside from raising accusations against me any time people caught on.

Oh, I know, you want to push me into a position where you can say "If you keep silent, you condone what he is doing."

You are priceless, Josh.

That's quite an accusation you are making there, so I sincerely hope you can make this one stick.
You just unequivocally accused me by name of colluding in criminal activity, abetting crime and implicitly being involved in these activities.
I'm just putting it out here, so we all know that you did.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 08:53:23 PM
Again, this thread isn't about the issue you have raised thousands of times already with your 'swarm teams'.

This thread is about a subject that you avoid addressing: jl777.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JL777 HAS DONE ANYTHING UNETHICAL?

it's a very simple question, Bas.   The public would like to know.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: mnporter2001 on October 02, 2014, 08:54:38 PM
bluemeanie1 you have to be by a country mile the dumbest prick I have come across on here, and there are some real dumb people around.

I see you harping on about threats of violence....... can you back this up with evidence ?

And everyone that calls you out about this 1 Mil NXT gets shot down by you with personal accusations of wrong doing, but again I see no evidence , infact one of these so called crimes and you mentioned a guy called Chris actually rocked up here and called you a liar pretty much with another high ranking member backing him up.

You spout absolute bollocks about your doing this and that legally, when after reading the thread from start to finish..YOU are the proven scammer here.

Now I too hold NXT and post on their forum however :

1 I'm not a lesbian
2 I have never shaved my arm pits or legs
3 I'm in with this one I also swear a lot
4 I'm open to a few ideas ;)
5 No time
6 I'm maried

Care to add anything else about me

Now run along you silly little man and get a life, preferably one in a padded white cell


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: mnporter2001 on October 02, 2014, 08:55:43 PM
Again, this thread isn't about the issue you have raised thousands of times already with your 'swarm teams'.



DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JL777 HAS DONE ANYTHING UNETHICAL?



I dont give a shit, the dude makes me money :)


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: TaunSew on October 02, 2014, 08:57:46 PM
Again, this thread isn't about the issue you have raised thousands of times already with your 'swarm teams'.

This thread is about a subject that you avoid addressing: jl777.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JL777 HAS DONE ANYTHING UNETHICAL?

it's a very simple question, Bas.   The public would like to know.

Not unethical but his assets would be a contradiction to the SEC rules in the United States and he could be fined or imprisoned for running illegal securities (regardless of whether his investors made or lost money).

I know someone in my area went to prison for 3 years just for distributing $42,000 worth of  securities.  That's compared to James who boasts that he has done $millions in securities.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Damelon on October 02, 2014, 09:02:35 PM
The public would like to know.

Josh, YOU would like to know.
In fact: you don't want to *know*, you want either to put me in a situation where you can attack me when I do not answer (see my previous post) r to see your own version of truth prevail.

It's a remarkably transparent game, actually :)

You may think you can make this thread about what you want, but guess what: other people think differently.

You have just accused me, by name, of a crime and the assisting in crimes.

That's rather heady stuff, where it not so ridiculously preposterous :)

I'm not playing your silly game of "give me the answer I want or be branded a traitor to the human race".



Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: nutildah on October 02, 2014, 09:03:16 PM

I know someone in my area went to prison for 3 years just for distributing 42,000 worth of  securities.  That's compared to James who boasts that he has done millions in securities.


I'm not certain cryptos (coins, tokens or otherwise) can be defined as "securities." You'd have to offer up some sort of evidence that you are correct in order for me to buy this whole threat.

By any chance, was the "someone in your area" running a fake corporation that was listed on an actual stock exchange? That's the difference.

There's several of these assets for sale on the exchanges, jl777hodl and Qibucks come to mind immediately. Have you looked at the Qibucks "Asset Sheet"? Its an absolute joke, and if it were a registered security she would also be doing hard time. But, they're not. Crypto exists in a legal limbo at the moment.

Any court rulings in the matter are largely unprecidented.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: stereotype on October 02, 2014, 09:05:37 PM
...... HAS DONE ANYTHING UNETHICAL?[/b]

Im holding up a mirror BM. The 1m NXT.....what happened to it?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 09:06:37 PM
Again, this thread isn't about the issue you have raised thousands of times already with your 'swarm teams'.

This thread is about a subject that you avoid addressing: jl777.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JL777 HAS DONE ANYTHING UNETHICAL?

it's a very simple question, Bas.   The public would like to know.

Not unethical but his assets would be a contradiction to the SEC rules in the United States and he could be fined or imprisoned for running illegal securities (regardless of whether his investors made or lost money).

but the same could be said for most IPOs on Bitcointalk.  There's a reason why many developers "disappear" after releasing the coin, as they don't to be tracked down by the SEC.


personally, I think it's a part of it- certainly a significant part.  I'd say that likely jl777 faces serious fines, perhaps much worse.  And it's not going away and he will carry these problems indefinitely.  Their attempts to hide in the shadows, behind anonymous internet logins and such can only last for so long- especially if we're talking about scales of MILLIONS OF DOLLARS(note that the dispute they continually raise concerning something that happened 4 months ago amounts to 20k).  Jl777 has even admitted on the forums that what he is doing is legally risky.

So, jl777 has big problems.  In addition, there are a lot of other sleazy things happening inside the project which I am quite sure he knows about.  The reason why these people desperately will do anything to silence me(such as pay someone to write a smear article) is because once jl777 is fully outed- SO ARE THEY.   At the minimum their real world reputations will all be permanently ruined for life, and some of these participants are young people.  They don't know what they are doing, they're too immature to understand how the real world works.  Some of them even live in their parents house while participating in this criminal activity.

They don't have the vision or integrity to know when enough is enough.  Ross Ulbricht didn't understand this either as he evolved from a fairly innocent white kid from the suburbs to a convicted murderer.  The more they allow this to get out of control, the more painful and damaging(for them) it will be to end it.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: TaunSew on October 02, 2014, 09:07:04 PM

I know someone in my area went to prison for 3 years just for distributing 42,000 worth of  securities.  That's compared to James who boasts that he has done millions in securities.


I'm not certain cryptos (coins, tokens or otherwise) can be defined as "securities." You'd have to offer up some sort of evidence that you are correct in order for me to buy this whole threat.

By any chance, was the "someone in your area" running a fake corporation that was listed on an actual stock exchange? That's the difference.



That's the case for some of those stories, yes.  

But there were also people who got into trouble for creating unregistered corporations for the purpose of daytrading with their customers' funds, which sounds theoretically similar to some of James' Assets.


Of course without a name or an address then you can't really report James for this stuff.  Contrary to what the internet has claimed for a good 15-20 years right now, there isn't a SWAT team of Cyber Police looking to knock down people's doors within 5 minutes of an email report.  The SEC has limited resources and only goes after public individuals who have concrete evidence against them like records of bank transfers that the SEC can request and gain access to right away.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: nutildah on October 02, 2014, 09:11:31 PM
 The SEC has limited resources and only goes after public individuals who have concrete evidence like records of bank transfers that the SEC can request and gain access to right away.


The SEC already mulled over whether they should consider cryptos to be securities and the answer was "No." So the SEC won't expend any resources in this area because it is not under their jurisdiction.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Wendigo on October 02, 2014, 09:15:47 PM

I know someone in my area went to prison for 3 years just for distributing 42,000 worth of  securities.  That's compared to James who boasts that he has done millions in securities.


I'm not certain cryptos (coins, tokens or otherwise) can be defined as "securities." You'd have to offer up some sort of evidence that you are correct in order for me to buy this whole threat.

By any chance, was the "someone in your area" running a fake corporation that was listed on an actual stock exchange? That's the difference.



That's the case for some of those stories, yes.  

But there were also people who got into trouble for creating unregistered corporations for the purpose of daytrading with their customers' funds, which sounds theoretically similar to some of James' Assets.


Of course without a name or an address then you can't really report James for this stuff.  Contrary to what the internet has claimed for a good 15-20 years right now, there isn't a SWAT team of Cyber Police looking to knock down people's doors within 5 minutes of an email report.  The SEC has limited resources and only goes after public individuals who have concrete evidence against them like records of bank transfers that the SEC can request and gain access to right away.


http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx

I have filed a complaint some years ago and I am not am american citizen.
Yes, an agent was assigned and contacted me about a financial theft over the internet.
Yes, it works.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: TaunSew on October 02, 2014, 09:16:12 PM
Again, this thread isn't about the issue you have raised thousands of times already with your 'swarm teams'.

This thread is about a subject that you avoid addressing: jl777.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JL777 HAS DONE ANYTHING UNETHICAL?

it's a very simple question, Bas.   The public would like to know.

Not unethical but his assets would be a contradiction to the SEC rules in the United States and he could be fined or imprisoned for running illegal securities (regardless of whether his investors made or lost money).

but the same could be said for most IPOs on Bitcointalk.  There's a reason why many developers "disappear" after releasing the coin, as they don't to be tracked down by the SEC.


They don't have the vision or integrity to know when enough is enough.  Ross Ulbricht didn't understand this either as he evolved from a fairly innocent white kid from the suburbs to a convicted murderer.  The more they allow this to get out of control, the more painful and damaging(for them) it will be to end it.

Ross Ulbricht is 29, I don't think he was living at home in the suburbs at his age.. if so.. well I guess his mom must had made some good pancakes or something..


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: nutildah on October 02, 2014, 09:16:36 PM
By the way, BlueMeanie, you understand very little about how legal proceedings actually work.

All your arguments are just menacing huffs of water vapor and have no substance.

The nonstop, vindictive, paranoid nature of your writings as of late suggests you are currently going through a manic phase.

A few days later you will realize what you have done and try to repair the damage, though you will be largely unsuccessful because you will also realize that your reputation has been permanently stained.

I suggest you take a step back, calm down for a minute, and perhaps get a second opinion on whether to continue this tirade of threats and paranoid fantasies or not.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 09:21:21 PM

I know someone in my area went to prison for 3 years just for distributing 42,000 worth of  securities.  That's compared to James who boasts that he has done millions in securities.


I'm not certain cryptos (coins, tokens or otherwise) can be defined as "securities." You'd have to offer up some sort of evidence that you are correct in order for me to buy this whole threat.

By any chance, was the "someone in your area" running a fake corporation that was listed on an actual stock exchange? That's the difference.



That's the case for some of those stories, yes.  

But there were also people who got into trouble for creating unregistered corporations for the purpose of daytrading with their customers' funds, which sounds theoretically similar to some of James' Assets.


Of course without a name or an address then you can't really report James for this stuff.  Contrary to what the internet has claimed for a good 15-20 years right now, there isn't a SWAT team of Cyber Police looking to knock down people's doors within 5 minutes of an email report.  The SEC has limited resources and only goes after public individuals who have concrete evidence against them like records of bank transfers that the SEC can request and gain access to right away.



jl777's assets, at the minimum, fall under the same category as seen in the Bitcoin Savings and Trust Case: http://www.sec.gov/News/PressRelease/Detail/PressRelease/1370539730583

the defendant was fined 30 million dollars US.

I'm quite sure there are many many more skeletons lurking inside NXT that these people are desperately trying to prevent from being uncovered.  If you followed any of the news in the past few months about this project it's abundantly clear.  Since the smear campaign began they have had no less than FOUR so-called 'hacking' incidents where large sums of money simply disappeared.  The various facts surrounding these incidents are absolutely chock full of curious, strange, and incoherent claims.

There are others also repeatedly issuing unregulated securities and other financial instruments that fall under SEC regulations.  Jef Diesel for instance participated in an online fundraiser(along with Bas) which is exactly what invited Erik Vorhees legal problems:  https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/us-sec-fines-erik-voorhees-unregistered-bitcoin-ipos/ , Bas claims to be running some sort of video game project(indicated in his signature).

the NXT people believe that pointing fingers at me any time people begin to scrutinize their project is an effective tactic to solve their legal problems.

Bas Wisselink has consistently attempted to deflect any attention being brought to these facts.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: okaynow on October 02, 2014, 09:32:46 PM

Funny how the OP stole 73 btc in today;s prices
and posts a bounty (without escrow!) of 20
for doxxing the person he stole the coins from!

10/10 OP, you're the man...



Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 09:34:19 PM
a good video about Ross:  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkRhBOZSw38

you can see a lot of psychological parallels here.  I think that Ross believed that he was acting ethically, made a few missteps, and before he knew it- he became a hardened criminal.  No one has denied, Ross's Mom included- that he was profiting from the sale of drugs and weapons and ordered an assassination on his business associate.  When I first encountered jl777, he was curiosity to me mainly.  Within a week or so, all the indicators were clear.  I expressed these concerns to many people, Bas included.

I think all these kids at NXT, Wesley, Jean-Luc, they all currently run a very serious risk of running down the same road Ross did, with identical consequences.  My advice to them is go outside and face the music.  The show is over.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Damelon on October 02, 2014, 09:41:46 PM
There are others also repeatedly issuing unregulated securities and other financial instruments that fall under SEC regulations.  Jef Diesel for instance participated in an online fundraiser(along with Bas) which is exactly what invited Erik Vorhees legal problems:  https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/us-sec-fines-erik-voorhees-unregistered-bitcoin-ipos/ , Bas claims to be running some sort of video game project(indicated in his signature).

the NXT people believe that pointing fingers at me any time people begin to scrutinize their project is an effective tactic to solve their legal problems.

Bas Wisselink has consistently attempted to deflect any attention being brought to these facts.

Oh my dear boy,

Name ny place where I actually stopped you from posting? Really, ny.
You will find none, because you can say what you damn well like.

One the other hand, I am just as free to not participate in your games.
I am also free to call you out on your attempts at implication.

I've already left a list of five claims that you need to prove in the Cointelegraph comments. So far, no answer.
It's quite clear you are incapable of answering any direct questions put to you.

This whole thread was started after an article was published, with *proof*, that you absconded with money that did not belong to you.

Timelines are important in these cases, as you well (should) know.

Scrutinise all you want. If you find something: report it and let the proper authorities handle it.

I make the prediction that we won't hear anything, that we will be getting these kinds of posts, with a few sockpuppers appearing on our forums for a while and then nothing.

At least you have time enough to spend on this thread, as for the coming time, you won't want for money, eh?



Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 09:44:24 PM
you still have not offered us your opinion of jl777, Bas Wisselink.

this highly controversial character is of no interest to you and the community you supposedly represent?

this thread is about information on jl777, not yet another smear campaign against me.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Damelon on October 02, 2014, 09:47:06 PM
you still have not offered us your opinion of jl777, Bas Wisselink.

this highly controversial character is of no interest to you and the community you supposedly represent?

this thread is about information on jl777, not yet another smear campaign against me.

You are more than capable of smearing yourself and need no help from me :)

You are also not particularly versed in logic, it seems.

The fact that I don't offer *you* any opinion does not equate with having no interest.

It means I do not answer you, plain and simple.

The conclusion you draw from that is yours, and yours alone.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: zondic on October 02, 2014, 09:50:00 PM
...... HAS DONE ANYTHING UNETHICAL?[/b]

Im holding up a mirror BM. The 1m NXT.....what happened to it?

WHY DO YOU KEEP AVOIDING THIS SIMPLE BUT VERY VERY RELEVANT QUESTION FOR THIS SITUATION?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 09:51:57 PM
if the readers here cannot determine that Bas(Damelon) is covering for jl777, you need to read a bit closer.

Generally the way jl777 operates is he attempts to 1) incentivize by offering you shares in his schemes 2) then gets you stuck on his 'side' by involving you in questionable or even illegal activity.  His interactions are very intense and verbose, sometimes I wonder if he's even one person.  I don't doubt that Bas is hooked in, because if he comes out against jl777 I'm sure the result will be far more painful than anything they have attempted to sling at me.

The whole thing is unbelievably dirty.  In some ways I feel sorry for the younger people who just don't know what they got themselves into.

jl777 NEEDS to be fully identified to the public for everyone's safety.

Bas, this thing isn't going to blow over.  The US authorities have already been contacted.  There's no reversing this.  Be prepared.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Damelon on October 02, 2014, 10:00:48 PM
Bas, this thing isn't going to blow over.  The US authorities have already been contacted.  There's no reversing this.  Be prepared.

Josh, if you can be certain of anything, is that I am awaiting their response.
Should the come a-knocking at my door, I will open and inform them of what they ask. :)

I don't doubt that Bas is hooked in, because if he comes out against jl777 I'm sure the result will be far more painful than anything they have attempted to sling at me.

Again: implying guilt and accusations.
It's part of your MO to cast things in such a way that people mst believe someone mst be dirty.

It's a common trick employed by people who try to assasinate people's character.

Something that you ironically accuse me and others of :)

The operational difference of course being that yur actions have irrevocably been recorded on the blockchain, whereas yur accusations remain just that, until proven in a court of law.
If you have forgotten, the proof is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=653693.msg7367429#msg7367429

Oh blockchain, how I love you.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 02, 2014, 10:02:36 PM
If you maniacs believe I am the only person who wants Jl777 taken down, you're about to learn something.

Half of the NXT developers themselves despise him.  Antonis, owner of http://nxtblocks.info/ explicitly refused to have any dealing with him whatsoever.  At the time he issued these warnings to me, I had no idea who any of these people even were.  Most of the developers, such as Dirk and your other friend David seemed to have a measure of both fear and admiration for jl777- again at the time I had no idea why.

Bas Wisselink- do you believe that Jl777 has done anything unethical?

since you decided to grace us with your presence and take a break from your yoga mat business, why not tell us all what YOU think of jl777?

This sounds like your opinion and "he said she said" without proof to back it up.  In fact, much of what you have said is circumstantial evidence...when stretched very thin.

Again, this thread isn't about the issue you have raised thousands of times already with your 'swarm teams'.

This thread is about a subject that you avoid addressing: jl777.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JL777 HAS DONE ANYTHING UNETHICAL?

it's a very simple question, Bas.   The public would like to know.

What does it matter what Bas or any of us think about James's ethics?  James will keep on Jamesing and providing contributions to the Nxt community.  In fact, the Nxt Community is thriving as evidenced by multiple dividend paying assets released in the past month, multiple exciting startups joining us, and new contributing members coming on board.  There is real value being put into Nxt by many hard-working individuals.  I would like to know what communities you are working hard to build up, instead of workign hard to tear?

I get the impression that you are on a crusade against Nxt, and perhaps wherever you identify corruption. In this crusade, you envision yourself as the white knight who will ride to the aid of all the poor saps (and potential saps) who have been (or could be) duped by James and the other dastardly Nxt devs into giving up their hard-earned money.

I suspect there are very few people who hold that view.  I don't recall any friends of yours hopping onto this thread to post their agreement with your opinion about James, to backup your claims, or offer any substantial support for you.  Notice how many of James's friends hopped over here to lend their support and refute your arguments - that's not a posse or gang or whatever diabolical label that you want to place on it: that's friendship, respect, loyalty, solidarity.

Yours is one voice screaming into a hurricane.  Your contributions to the decentralization movement appear to be limited to fits of belly-aching, belligerence, and bullying.  One is remembered by their works and their friends, not their words and their judgements.  What works do you have to show us to make us respect you, trust you, and listen to you?  What friends do you have who will support you?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: EvilDave on October 02, 2014, 10:06:12 PM
The reason why Bas Wisselink refuses to make a statement regarding jl777 is precisely due to everything I've been claiming so far.

He is well aware that jl777 is doing something illegal - and that there is criminal activity happening inside NXT.

There have been countless thefts, frauds, and other assorted crimes during the last few months at NXT, Bas Wisselink said absolutely nothing- aside from raising accusations against me any time people caught on.

Joshua seems to be unaware that he's just committed libel with this post....just thought I'd remind him, as he's so keen on illegal activity.

So, Josh, can we actually see any evidence for these "countless thefts, frauds, and other assorted crimes" or are you just going to carry on with your paranoid fantasy, and not allow the truth to get in the way ?

Getting kind of bored with your current routine, btw, it needs spicing up with something, and i don't think charts are gonna hack it.  


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 10:06:20 PM
just an added point,

this cobaltskky person i suspect is using NXT as a source of undeclared income as she is on government assistance programs.

I suspect that's the MO of roughly 30% of NXT people.  Most of them clearly do not have any professional background or legitimate form of income.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 02, 2014, 10:06:57 PM
Bas, this thing isn't going to blow over.  The US authorities have already been contacted.  There's no reversing this.  Be prepared.

http://i.imgur.com/8JCb8J2.png

And then:

http://i.imgur.com/RW0hRNS.png


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 02, 2014, 10:10:38 PM
just an added point,

this cobaltskky person i suspect is using NXT as a source of undeclared income as she is on government assistance programs.

I suspect that's the MO of roughly 30% of NXT people.  Most of them clearly do not have any professional background or legitimate form of income.



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I work as a Lead Application Development Analyst at a health care organization.  I make ~90k per year.

Okay, I can't take you seriously anymore.  You are way too fascist.  Expect just memes and joking at your expense from now on.

Tell us about the govt assistance programs that you're on.  I'm still waiting to hear about your dysfunctions too.  THE PUBLIC WANTS TO KNOW.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Damelon on October 02, 2014, 10:12:16 PM
just an added point,

this cobaltskky person i suspect is using NXT as a source of undeclared income as she is on government assistance programs.

I suspect that's the MO of roughly 30% of NXT people.  Most of them clearly do not have any professional background or legitimate form of income.

This just deserves a "wow"

Here it is

Quote
wow


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 10:13:43 PM

What is your name and who do you work for?

Does your boss know you're posting this on company time?

I don't think your boss is going to be happy about all the information that's going to come out about NXT.

If you're a software developer, why are you contributing in NXT as a spammer/promoter?



I work as a Lead Application Development Analyst at a health care organization.  I make ~90k per year.



Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: freenxt.org on October 02, 2014, 10:14:55 PM
just an added point,

this cobaltskky person i suspect is using NXT as a source of undeclared income as she is on government assistance programs.

I suspect that's the MO of roughly 30% of NXT people.  Most of them clearly do not have any professional background or legitimate form of income.

You belong to the most pathetic people I have seen around. And it says a lot to say this on bitcointalk.. with all the sockpuppets and FUD...


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: jonald_fyookball on October 02, 2014, 10:17:38 PM
Bluemeanie1 recieved 1 million NXT from james, which he never gave back:

Proof is in the blockchain: http://nxtreporting.com/?tr=9677367184378728685



THIS. 


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 02, 2014, 10:22:25 PM

What is your name and who do you work for? You first.

Does your boss know you're posting this on company time? I'm at home.

I don't think your boss is going to be happy about all the information that's going to come out about NXT. She couldn't care less.  She's my personal friend anyway.

If you're a software developer, why are you contributing in NXT as a spammer/promoter?  I enjoy it.  Gotta fill the hours with something: if it's not this, it's reading, playing video games, or watching TV.  The Nxt community is often more interesting than any of those three.



I work as a Lead Application Development Analyst at a health care organization.  I make ~90k per year.


See above in Purple.

My turn!


What is your name and who do you work for?

Does your boss know you're a raging asshole?

I don't think your boss is going to be happy about finding out you're a dick.

What do you do for a living, and why do you bully communities and post crazy conspiracy theories with your free time?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: fumanchu808 on October 02, 2014, 10:25:37 PM
Hi everyone just a quick update, thanks to BMs manic ramblings and all of your wonderful support "The Case of the Missing 1,000,000 NXT" is now the 2nd most viewed story on Cointelegraph (out of over 250 active stories!).

If you haven't read it yet here it is:

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112643/the-mystery-of-the-missing-1000000-nxt



Thanks again everyone!


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 02, 2014, 10:25:46 PM
Bluemeanie has gone so batshit crazy thats its gonna  take an M. Night Shyamalan style twist for this debacle to get any more nutz. Hold on. Gotta go make popcorn.  ;D

I'm sure the twist is there...under the surface somewhere...


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 02, 2014, 10:28:40 PM
Hi everyone just a quick update, thanks to BMs manic ramblings and all of your wonderful support "The Case of the Missing 1,000,000 NXT" is now the 2nd most viewed story on Cointelegraph (out of over 250 active stories!).

If you haven't read it yet here it is:

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112643/the-mystery-of-the-missing-1000000-nxt

Thanks again everyone!

So glad to hear it!  I've been retweeting it a couple times a day for you! :D


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 02, 2014, 10:36:12 PM


Im assuming this is Edward DeLeon Hickman.

How many individual people do you believe your website has transmitted this information to?

Do you think you have convinced them that I engaged in illicit activity concerning the NXT project?




Hi everyone just a quick update, thanks to BMs manic ramblings and all of your wonderful support "The Case of the Missing 1,000,000 NXT" is now the 2nd most viewed story on Cointelegraph (out of over 250 active stories!).

If you haven't read it yet here it is:

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112643/the-mystery-of-the-missing-1000000-nxt



Thanks again everyone!


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 02, 2014, 10:40:22 PM


Im assuming this is Edward DeLeon Hickman.

How many individual people do you believe your website has transmitted this information to?

Do you think you have convinced them that I engaged in illicit activity concerning the NXT project?




Hi everyone just a quick update, thanks to BMs manic ramblings and all of your wonderful support "The Case of the Missing 1,000,000 NXT" is now the 2nd most viewed story on Cointelegraph (out of over 250 active stories!).

If you haven't read it yet here it is:

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112643/the-mystery-of-the-missing-1000000-nxt



Thanks again everyone!

I was 99% sure long before this article.  Now I'm 100% sure.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: EvilDave on October 02, 2014, 11:08:51 PM


Im assuming this is Edward DeLeon Hickman.

How many individual people do you believe your website has transmitted this information to?

Do you think you have convinced them that I engaged in illicit activity concerning the NXT project?

I reckon that you, BM,  have succeeded in convincing pretty much everyone who reads these threads that you are in fact a paranoid fantasist.
Sorry, dude, thats just the way it is......if you have a friend, could you ask them what they think of your anti-crypto crusade ?




Hi everyone just a quick update, thanks to BMs manic ramblings and all of your wonderful support "The Case of the Missing 1,000,000 NXT" is now the 2nd most viewed story on Cointelegraph (out of over 250 active stories!).

If you haven't read it yet here it is:

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112643/the-mystery-of-the-missing-1000000-nxt

Thanks again everyone!


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Liquid71 on October 02, 2014, 11:11:43 PM
The person behind the internet identity Jl777 has defrauded the public for well over 2 million USD.

I have been repeatedly posting critical information about his projects and he has initiated threats of violence and a constant harrassment campaign.  My identity is fully known and this information will be used to prevent further abuses by him and the "NXT Community".

I will pay in full, and I will consent to an arbiter to ensure full payment upon delivery of the information.

His last whereabouts were supposedly Buenos Aires.  He claims to be a Korean citizen but has never demonstrated knowledge of the Korean language.  I suspect he is either Dutch or American.  He claims to move from city to city.  I have other information that I will prefer not to publish as it may effect innocent parties.

Lawyers and lawsuits always make things worse. Maybe you should grow a pair and stop acting like a whiny bitch. And yes you can add me to your defamtion lawsuit, I will be more than happy to tell the court why I called you a whiny bitch and why I think you have no balls just an empty nutsack.

And fuck everyone involved with NXT, I'm not a shill or defender of them or JL77, I just hate people that hide behind lawyers and think lawsuits will solve the worlds problems and make sure everything is fair. Evolution means the strongest survive, not hide behind lawyers in nice suits.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Wendigo on October 02, 2014, 11:16:07 PM
The person behind the internet identity Jl777 has defrauded the public for well over 2 million USD.

I have been repeatedly posting critical information about his projects and he has initiated threats of violence and a constant harrassment campaign.  My identity is fully known and this information will be used to prevent further abuses by him and the "NXT Community".

I will pay in full, and I will consent to an arbiter to ensure full payment upon delivery of the information.

His last whereabouts were supposedly Buenos Aires.  He claims to be a Korean citizen but has never demonstrated knowledge of the Korean language.  I suspect he is either Dutch or American.  He claims to move from city to city.  I have other information that I will prefer not to publish as it may effect innocent parties.

Lawyers and lawsuits always make things worse. Maybe you should grow a pair and stop acting like a whiny bitch. And yes you can add me to your defamtion lawsuit, I will be more than happy to tell the court why I called you a whiny bitch and why I think you have no balls just an empty nutsack.

And fuck everyone involved with NXT, I'm not a shill or defender of them or JL77, I just hate people that hide behind lawyers and think lawsuits will solve the worlds problems and make sure everything is fair. Evolution means the strongest survive, not hide behind lawyers in nice suits.

The dinosaurs seem to have had shitty lawyers :)


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: okaynow on October 02, 2014, 11:45:35 PM
Evolution means the strongest survive

Actually, what you are describing is the jungle.
Evolution means people talk it over.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: TaunSew on October 02, 2014, 11:51:35 PM
Bluemeanie what are you doing posting on company hours?  You live in the Pacific Standard Time zone and was posting all day during normal work hours.



Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 02, 2014, 11:56:01 PM
Bluemeanie what are you doing posting on company hours?  You live in the Pacific Standard Time zone and was posting all day during normal work hours.



How do you know he's on PST?  I've seen a couple things that he's in Arizona or New York.  I thought New York seemed more likely.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: TaunSew on October 02, 2014, 11:59:02 PM
Bluemeanie what are you doing posting on company hours?  You live in the Pacific Standard Time zone and was posting all day during normal work hours.



How do you know he's on PST?  I've seen a couple things that he's in Arizona or New York.  I thought New York seemed more likely.

I thought Arizona was in PST but he does otherwise post during standard work hours.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: nutildah on October 03, 2014, 12:01:23 AM

I thought Arizona was in PST but he does otherwise post during standard work hours.

He lives in Arizona. I remember looking up his address one time and he lives in a pretty ghetto area in Phoenix. But hey having your own place is better than I can say. Even if it is in the ghetto in Phoenix.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: TaunSew on October 03, 2014, 12:04:28 AM

I thought Arizona was in PST but he does otherwise post during standard work hours.

He lives in Arizona. I remember looking up his address one time and he lives in a pretty ghetto area in Phoenix. But hey having your own place is better than I can say. Even if it is in the ghetto in Phoenix.

I'm not an expert on Arizona real estate but I know that in many areas of the US you can buy big houses for 'crack shack' prices.  I remember seeing that Google street view of his house and yes it's probable that his home was one of those mobile homes (not a RV but a mobile manufactured home that can cost between $5K-$30K).

I think he's done well for himself, no?  Maybe he bought that house with the 1 million NXT he stole?

Maybe if you hire a private investigator to watch him maybe Bluemeanie1 drives an used Cadillac with rims and custom speakers that he bought with NXT?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: mcjavar on October 03, 2014, 12:08:01 AM

blabla


Im pretty much neutral as I am invested in a lot of BTC or/and Nxt related projects, but I wanted to drop in a few lines as I find this amusing.

You are such an idiot, BM, but I actually like you.

I`ve always had a passion for mentally ill people. :-/

Cheers!


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Tobo on October 03, 2014, 01:46:34 AM
An Anti-Jl777 Coalition Forms attempted Inside outside NXT

fify


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 03, 2014, 01:48:18 AM
apparently Cadence Jean Morton(cobaltskky) works for :

Spectrum Health
100 Michigan St. Ne
Grand Rapids
Michigan 49503 United States

a link to their website: http://www.spectrumhealth.org/


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on October 03, 2014, 01:49:26 AM
20 BTC isn't much these days. I think all these bounties need to be revised :D


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 03, 2014, 01:50:13 AM
I may give them a call tomorrow to inquire as to why one of their employees is harassing people on the internet.

I have a complete copy of this thread I'll be sure to send it along.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 03, 2014, 01:51:41 AM
20 BTC isn't much these days. I think all these bounties need to be revised :D

if you have any information you think I would value, I am willing to negotiate.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Liquid71 on October 03, 2014, 02:02:22 AM
Evolution means the strongest survive

Actually, what you are describing is the jungle.
Evolution means people talk it over.
The corrupt "legal" system is not the pinnacle of civilized humanity.

He's talking about defamation, not assault or murder. The cointelegraph is a shit coin pumping rag, who gives a shit what they say about anything? I guess we should start suing all the trolls on bitcointalk forums too...


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Liquid71 on October 03, 2014, 02:04:27 AM
I may give them a call tomorrow to inquire as to why one of their employees is harassing people on the internet.

I have a complete copy of this thread I'll be sure to send it along.
Be sure to report all those cyber bullies, we need more regulation on the internet to protect all the sore vaginas


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 03, 2014, 02:04:41 AM
and just a reminder, every single one of you anonymous posters are only a few BTC away from being fully identified.

Candace Jean Morton may now be liable for defamation damages in addition to whatever other problems her association to the NXT project may bring.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 03, 2014, 02:09:19 AM
Evolution means the strongest survive

Actually, what you are describing is the jungle.
Evolution means people talk it over.
The corrupt "legal" system is not the pinnacle of civilized humanity.

He's talking about defamation, not assault or murder. The cointelegraph is a shit coin pumping rag, who gives a shit what they say about anything? I guess we should start suing all the trolls on bitcointalk forums too...

It's the best way to address these sorts of problems.  I'll recover what I can from him in court, any significant proceeds that come out of this will go towards my efforts with NXT, perhaps even other problematic projects and people.  I'm not the only one who is being plagued by these sociopaths.  And BTW- if you have a legal issue with any of these parties I'm more than happy to pool resources.

It's been obvious for some time that Cointelegraph has zero journalism standards.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: DarkhorseofNxt on October 03, 2014, 02:10:05 AM
"Mayiru kudhe pudungeh mudhiyathu" - annonymous


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: TaunSew on October 03, 2014, 02:18:31 AM
and just a reminder, every single one of you anonymous posters are only a few BTC away from being fully identified.

Candace Jean Morton may now be liable for defamation damages in addition to whatever other problems her association to the NXT project may bring.

How did she defame you?  What's her association with NXT?  I think she has some association with SuperNet but I'm not really sure.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: fumanchu808 on October 03, 2014, 02:32:18 AM
and just a reminder, every single one of you anonymous posters are only a few BTC away from being fully identified.

Candace Jean Morton may now be liable for defamation damages in addition to whatever other problems her association to the NXT project may bring.

How did she defame you?  What's her association with NXT?  I think she has some association with SuperNet but I'm not really sure.

It hasn't sunk in yet that it's not defamation if it's TRUE.

However I will gladly volunteer to be the *first journalist in history* that gets to explain to a court system that a *BLOCKCHAIN CANNOT BE FALSIFIED* therefore it serves as concrete evidence that the transaction in question did in fact occur. Good luck proving otherwise.

Anyone want to gander a guess on what the counter suit from both myself and CoinTelegraph will look like once the court understands that he placed a claim of defamation while knowing the claims in the article to be factual and true?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 03, 2014, 02:35:12 AM
and just a reminder, every single one of you anonymous posters are only a few BTC away from being fully identified.

Candace Jean Morton may now be liable for defamation damages in addition to whatever other problems her association to the NXT project may bring.

How did she defame you?  What's her association with NXT?  I think she has some association with SuperNet but I'm not really sure.

It hasn't sunk in yet that it's not defamation if it's TRUE.

However I will gladly volunteer to be the *first journalist in history* that gets to explain to a court system that a *BLOCKCHAIN CANNOT BE FALSIFIED* therefore it serves as concrete evidence that the transaction in question did in fact occur. Good luck proving otherwise.

Anyone want to gander a guess on what the counter suit from both myself and CoinTelegraph will look like once the court understands that he placed a claim of defamation while knowing the claims in the article to be factual and true?





Edward DeLeon Hickman,

 what do you think the facts in your article show?

Joshua Zeidner


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: pbc_mark on October 03, 2014, 03:29:22 AM
Edward DeLeon Hickman,

 what do you think the facts in your article show?

Joshua Zeidner

The facts in the article show that you received 1,000,000 NXT for unperformed development work. Why won't you address the question of the 1,000,000 NXT? Literally everything else you have to say is hot air as far as I'm concerned.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: LiQio on October 03, 2014, 04:23:59 AM
I may give them a call tomorrow to inquire as to why one of their employees is harassing people on the internet.

I have a complete copy of this thread I'll be sure to send it along.

^
This made me laugh for hours, seriously hours!
BM you are such a pathetic little creature - get yourself a live.

Just as a reminder: YOU STOLE 1M NXT - RETURN IT!

And for everyone who hasn't read it: http://cointelegraph.com/news/112643/the-mystery-of-the-missing-1000000-nxt


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Cassius on October 03, 2014, 05:42:40 AM
just an added point,

this cobaltskky person i suspect is using NXT as a source of undeclared income as she is on government assistance programs.

I suspect that's the MO of roughly 30% of NXT people.  Most of them clearly do not have any professional background or legitimate form of income.

This one. Remember this post. This is where you burned any remaining shred of credibility for those who aren't already aware of the AutoDAC backstory.
All that anyone ever needs to do from now on is point to this post. And that awkward transaction and message on the blockchain.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: jonald_fyookball on October 03, 2014, 06:00:32 AM
I may give them a call tomorrow to inquire as to why one of their employees is harassing people on the internet.

I have a complete copy of this thread I'll be sure to send it along.

^
This made me laugh for hours, seriously hours!
BM you are such a pathetic little creature - get yourself a live.

Just as a reminder: YOU STOLE 1M NXT - RETURN IT!

And for everyone who hasn't read it: http://cointelegraph.com/news/112643/the-mystery-of-the-missing-1000000-nxt


LMAO at this:

Quote
What is clear, however, is that he seems to belong to that special class of citizen that completely lacks the ability to ever answer a direct question.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: instacalm on October 03, 2014, 06:35:22 AM
"bluemeanie" in a nutshell: depression, defamation, outright frustration, a man of lies and troublemaking

It is truly sad. Who would want to live this way?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: xcn on October 03, 2014, 08:09:39 AM
Add another 50btc to 20btc bounty and return 1M NXT to the community.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on October 03, 2014, 08:35:48 AM
Hi, Josh. I replied to your tweet but got no reply back (https://twitter.com/comefrombeyond/status/517233460159983616). I'm not sure if you were kidding or serious, could you provide a proof that you did contact authorities (scanned document, phone number and name of the police officer). Also, could you send me the contact information of your lawyer (to come-from-beyond@mail.ru)? I need to make sure that you do have one.

Please, note that if you refuse to do as I asked, you will clearly show that you lie and actually didn't contact the authorities nor had an intention to do so. By the way, you have no choice. You were always claiming that I was BCNext (the creator of Nxt), you can't just ignore my request, pretending that you don't want to waste your time on me. :)

3 days should be enough, in 3 days I'll make another post to tell the others if you tried to reach me.


PS: Could someone quote my post in case if he tries to make excuses that he put me on ignore list or didn't notice this post?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: l8orre on October 03, 2014, 08:39:48 AM
Hi, Josh. I replied to your tweet but got no reply back (https://twitter.com/comefrombeyond/status/517233460159983616). I'm not sure if you were kidding or serious, could you provide a proof that you did contact authorities (scanned document, phone number and name of the police officer). Also, could you send me the contact information of your lawyer (to come-from-beyond@mail.ru)? I need to make sure that you do have one.

Please, note that if you refuse to do as I asked, you will clearly show that you lie and actually didn't contact the authorities nor had an intention to do so. By the way, you have no choice. You were always claiming that I was BCNext (the creator of Nxt), you can't just ignore my request, pretending that you don't want to waste your time on me. :)

3 days should be enough, in 3 days I'll make another post to tell the others if you tried to reach me.


PS: Could someone quote my post in case if he tries to make excuses that he put me on ignore list or didn't notice this post?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bezbezbez on October 03, 2014, 08:42:29 AM
Nice topic, check it about bluemeanie1.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=656116.0


http://i.imgur.com/rMstZJB.jpg


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: martismartis on October 03, 2014, 08:44:36 AM
Hi, Josh. I replied to your tweet but got no reply back (https://twitter.com/comefrombeyond/status/517233460159983616). I'm not sure if you were kidding or serious, could you provide a proof that you did contact authorities (scanned document, phone number and name of the police officer). Also, could you send me the contact information of your lawyer (to come-from-beyond@mail.ru)? I need to make sure that you do have one.

Please, note that if you refuse to do as I asked, you will clearly show that you lie and actually didn't contact the authorities nor had an intention to do so. By the way, you have no choice. You were always claiming that I was BCNext (the creator of Nxt), you can't just ignore my request, pretending that you don't want to waste your time on me. :)

3 days should be enough, in 3 days I'll make another post to tell the others if you tried to reach me.


PS: Could someone quote my post in case if he tries to make excuses that he put me on ignore list or didn't notice this post?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: ShroomsKit_Disgrace on October 03, 2014, 08:47:49 AM
Since I am a sockpuppet created to back CfB, I will quote his post:

Hi, Josh. I replied to your tweet but got no reply back (https://twitter.com/comefrombeyond/status/517233460159983616). I'm not sure if you were kidding or serious, could you provide a proof that you did contact authorities (scanned document, phone number and name of the police officer). Also, could you send me the contact information of your lawyer (to come-from-beyond@mail.ru)? I need to make sure that you do have one.

Please, note that if you refuse to do as I asked, you will clearly show that you lie and actually didn't contact the authorities nor had an intention to do so. By the way, you have no choice. You were always claiming that I was BCNext (the creator of Nxt), you can't just ignore my request, pretending that you don't want to waste your time on me. :)

3 days should be enough, in 3 days I'll make another post to tell the others if you tried to reach me.


PS: Could someone quote my post in case if he tries to make excuses that he put me on ignore list or didn't notice this post?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: redsn0w on October 03, 2014, 08:56:29 AM
Hi, Josh. I replied to your tweet but got no reply back (https://twitter.com/comefrombeyond/status/517233460159983616). I'm not sure if you were kidding or serious, could you provide a proof that you did contact authorities (scanned document, phone number and name of the police officer). Also, could you send me the contact information of your lawyer (to come-from-beyond@mail.ru)? I need to make sure that you do have one.

Please, note that if you refuse to do as I asked, you will clearly show that you lie and actually didn't contact the authorities nor had an intention to do so. By the way, you have no choice. You were always claiming that I was BCNext (the creator of Nxt), you can't just ignore my request, pretending that you don't want to waste your time on me. :)

3 days should be enough, in 3 days I'll make another post to tell the others if you tried to reach me.


PS: Could someone quote my post in case if he tries to make excuses that he put me on ignore list or didn't notice this post?

Done , for security ;) . I'm watching this thread with very interest .


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bezbezbez on October 03, 2014, 08:58:34 AM
Hi, Josh. I replied to your tweet but got no reply back (https://twitter.com/comefrombeyond/status/517233460159983616). I'm not sure if you were kidding or serious, could you provide a proof that you did contact authorities (scanned document, phone number and name of the police officer). Also, could you send me the contact information of your lawyer (to come-from-beyond@mail.ru)? I need to make sure that you do have one.

Please, note that if you refuse to do as I asked, you will clearly show that you lie and actually didn't contact the authorities nor had an intention to do so. By the way, you have no choice. You were always claiming that I was BCNext (the creator of Nxt), you can't just ignore my request, pretending that you don't want to waste your time on me. :)

3 days should be enough, in 3 days I'll make another post to tell the others if you tried to reach me.


PS: Could someone quote my post in case if he tries to make excuses that he put me on ignore list or didn't notice this post?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Este Nuno on October 03, 2014, 09:02:22 AM
and just a reminder, every single one of you anonymous posters are only a few BTC away from being fully identified.

Candace Jean Morton may now be liable for defamation damages in addition to whatever other problems her association to the NXT project may bring.

How did she defame you?  What's her association with NXT?  I think she has some association with SuperNet but I'm not really sure.

It hasn't sunk in yet that it's not defamation if it's TRUE.

However I will gladly volunteer to be the *first journalist in history* that gets to explain to a court system that a *BLOCKCHAIN CANNOT BE FALSIFIED* therefore it serves as concrete evidence that the transaction in question did in fact occur. Good luck proving otherwise.

Anyone want to gander a guess on what the counter suit from both myself and CoinTelegraph will look like once the court understands that he placed a claim of defamation while knowing the claims in the article to be factual and true?





Edward DeLeon Hickman,

 what do you think the facts in your article show?

Joshua Zeidner

The blockchain shows you received 1,000,000 NXT. You did not develop the project you were paid to develop.

You come on here and accuse multiple people of wrong doing with no evidence.

You dox people who by all sources other than yourself appear to have done nothing wrong.

I sincerely suggest you seek the help of a medical professional to deal with your mental health. Seriously. If you can find me some objective observer that can read through this whole mess and make the claim that you appear to be a rational mentally healthy individual I will be amazed.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: superresistant on October 03, 2014, 09:40:34 AM
I sincerely suggest you seek the help of a medical professional to deal with your mental health. Seriously. If you can find me some objective observer that can read through this whole mess and make the claim that you appear to be a rational mentally healthy individual I will be amazed.

There is nothing to do with these kind of people.
Rational arguments are non-sense for them.
The more you try to help them, the more they hate you.
Everyone is seen as an enemy for them, especially their parents and the medical staff.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: stereotype on October 03, 2014, 09:48:43 AM
Cant we up the ante a tad, and serve BM something legal, so at the very least, he is obliged to explain the 1m NXT he took for services not rendered?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: 3x2 on October 03, 2014, 10:54:31 AM
Hi, Josh. I replied to your tweet but got no reply back (https://twitter.com/comefrombeyond/status/517233460159983616). I'm not sure if you were kidding or serious, could you provide a proof that you did contact authorities (scanned document, phone number and name of the police officer). Also, could you send me the contact information of your lawyer (to come-from-beyond@mail.ru)? I need to make sure that you do have one.

Please, note that if you refuse to do as I asked, you will clearly show that you lie and actually didn't contact the authorities nor had an intention to do so. By the way, you have no choice. You were always claiming that I was BCNext (the creator of Nxt), you can't just ignore my request, pretending that you don't want to waste your time on me. :)

3 days should be enough, in 3 days I'll make another post to tell the others if you tried to reach me.


PS: Could someone quote my post in case if he tries to make excuses that he put me on ignore list or didn't notice this post?



Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: starfishi on October 03, 2014, 10:59:50 AM
Hi, Josh. I replied to your tweet but got no reply back (https://twitter.com/comefrombeyond/status/517233460159983616). I'm not sure if you were kidding or serious, could you provide a proof that you did contact authorities (scanned document, phone number and name of the police officer). Also, could you send me the contact information of your lawyer (to come-from-beyond@mail.ru)? I need to make sure that you do have one.

Please, note that if you refuse to do as I asked, you will clearly show that you lie and actually didn't contact the authorities nor had an intention to do so. By the way, you have no choice. You were always claiming that I was BCNext (the creator of Nxt), you can't just ignore my request, pretending that you don't want to waste your time on me. :)

3 days should be enough, in 3 days I'll make another post to tell the others if you tried to reach me.


PS: Could someone quote my post in case if he tries to make excuses that he put me on ignore list or didn't notice this post?


Damn, now we are probably ALL on his ignore list !   :)




Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Istanbul34 on October 03, 2014, 11:14:31 AM
Hi, Josh. I replied to your tweet but got no reply back (https://twitter.com/comefrombeyond/status/517233460159983616). I'm not sure if you were kidding or serious, could you provide a proof that you did contact authorities (scanned document, phone number and name of the police officer). Also, could you send me the contact information of your lawyer (to come-from-beyond@mail.ru)? I need to make sure that you do have one.

Please, note that if you refuse to do as I asked, you will clearly show that you lie and actually didn't contact the authorities nor had an intention to do so. By the way, you have no choice. You were always claiming that I was BCNext (the creator of Nxt), you can't just ignore my request, pretending that you don't want to waste your time on me. :)

3 days should be enough, in 3 days I'll make another post to tell the others if you tried to reach me.


PS: Could someone quote my post in case if he tries to make excuses that he put me on ignore list or didn't notice this post?

Answer the question BM


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 03, 2014, 11:14:45 AM

Took you long enough!  It's not like I hide it.  Thank you for the third-party verification that I actually am who I say I am.  That should help my efforts in the community to develop trust between them and myself.

I'm very interested to hear what they tell you.  I suspect it will be along the lines of, "I'm sorry, Mr. Meanie, but since Cadence wasn't acting in an official capacity when she was writing on the Intarwebz, we're really not interested in your story. kthxbye."

I think it's pretty obvious to everyone reading that anything that I post here is my personal opinion and is in no way any sort of statement from my employer.

Please make sure to tell my employer about all my "dysfunctions"!  They will want to know all that personal information about me!

So now you know where I work and so does the world - when you gunna man up and post your employer's information?  Do you have an employer?  Maybe you're actually on government assistance programs and using crypto as a source of undeclared income.

ZING!



Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: CryptoGuu on October 03, 2014, 11:32:00 AM
Hi, Josh. I replied to your tweet but got no reply back (https://twitter.com/comefrombeyond/status/517233460159983616). I'm not sure if you were kidding or serious, could you provide a proof that you did contact authorities (scanned document, phone number and name of the police officer). Also, could you send me the contact information of your lawyer (to come-from-beyond@mail.ru)? I need to make sure that you do have one.

Please, note that if you refuse to do as I asked, you will clearly show that you lie and actually didn't contact the authorities nor had an intention to do so. By the way, you have no choice. You were always claiming that I was BCNext (the creator of Nxt), you can't just ignore my request, pretending that you don't want to waste your time on me. :)

3 days should be enough, in 3 days I'll make another post to tell the others if you tried to reach me.


PS: Could someone quote my post in case if he tries to make excuses that he put me on ignore list or didn't notice this post?

answer or gtfo


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: DarkhorseofNxt on October 03, 2014, 11:36:56 AM
Hi, Josh. I replied to your tweet but got no reply back (https://twitter.com/comefrombeyond/status/517233460159983616). I'm not sure if you were kidding or serious, could you provide a proof that you did contact authorities (scanned document, phone number and name of the police officer). Also, could you send me the contact information of your lawyer (to come-from-beyond@mail.ru)? I need to make sure that you do have one.

Please, note that if you refuse to do as I asked, you will clearly show that you lie and actually didn't contact the authorities nor had an intention to do so. By the way, you have no choice. You were always claiming that I was BCNext (the creator of Nxt), you can't just ignore my request, pretending that you don't want to waste your time on me. :)

3 days should be enough, in 3 days I'll make another post to tell the others if you tried to reach me.


PS: Could someone quote my post in case if he tries to make excuses that he put me on ignore list or didn't notice this post?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: mcjavar on October 03, 2014, 11:49:54 AM
Hi, Josh. I replied to your tweet but got no reply back (https://twitter.com/comefrombeyond/status/517233460159983616). I'm not sure if you were kidding or serious, could you provide a proof that you did contact authorities (scanned document, phone number and name of the police officer). Also, could you send me the contact information of your lawyer (to come-from-beyond@mail.ru)? I need to make sure that you do have one.

Please, note that if you refuse to do as I asked, you will clearly show that you lie and actually didn't contact the authorities nor had an intention to do so. By the way, you have no choice. You were always claiming that I was BCNext (the creator of Nxt), you can't just ignore my request, pretending that you don't want to waste your time on me. :)

3 days should be enough, in 3 days I'll make another post to tell the others if you tried to reach me.


PS: Could someone quote my post in case if he tries to make excuses that he put me on ignore list or didn't notice this post?

just to make it sure :)


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: superresistant on October 03, 2014, 11:50:47 AM
 
lol Josh is getting lost in the shitstorm.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 03, 2014, 12:32:07 PM
http://www.mentalhealthsupport.co.uk/AdultBullying.html

BM, please CC me on any electronic correspondence that you send to Spectrum Health.  Here's my personal email address: skkyblu@charter.net

If you're going to take a virtual swing at this lady, she'd like the opportunity to see it coming.

I feel sorry for the person at the other end of the line that has to waste their time and effort on dealing with you. :(


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: devphp on October 03, 2014, 12:34:17 PM
Bluemeanie, return 1M NXT that you stole from NXT community, you filthy thief!


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: DarkhorseofNxt on October 03, 2014, 12:35:55 PM
apparently Cadence Jean Morton(cobaltskky) works for :

Spectrum Health
100 Michigan St. Ne
Grand Rapids
Michigan 49503 United States


http://www.mentalhealthsupport.co.uk/AdultBullying.html

BM, please CC me on any electronic correspondence that you send to Spectrum Health.  Here's my personal email address: skkyblu@charter.net

If you're going to take a virtual swing at this lady, she'd like the opportunity to see it coming.

Is it not a crime to publish your personals details online without your consent in U.S?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Daedelus on October 03, 2014, 12:43:49 PM
Hi, Josh. I replied to your tweet but got no reply back (https://twitter.com/comefrombeyond/status/517233460159983616). I'm not sure if you were kidding or serious, could you provide a proof that you did contact authorities (scanned document, phone number and name of the police officer). Also, could you send me the contact information of your lawyer (to come-from-beyond@mail.ru)? I need to make sure that you do have one.

Please, note that if you refuse to do as I asked, you will clearly show that you lie and actually didn't contact the authorities nor had an intention to do so. By the way, you have no choice. You were always claiming that I was BCNext (the creator of Nxt), you can't just ignore my request, pretending that you don't want to waste your time on me. :)

3 days should be enough, in 3 days I'll make another post to tell the others if you tried to reach me.


PS: Could someone quote my post in case if he tries to make excuses that he put me on ignore list or didn't notice this post?


Gone strangely quiet in here now. I recall BM wasn't the only one doing some background research, CfB had a bounty out too. BM was kicked off of Open Transactions, was involved in PeerUnity but didn't complete there either. I wonder what CfB found.

I also wonder if CfB has been talking to LawyerOfNxt or his associates about the actions of Bluemeanie (i.e. promoting a project he agreed to do with his PGP signature, receiving 1million Nxt payment recorded on the blckchain and then torpeedoing the project and calling Nxt the scammer :o (Find verifiable third party links for his PGP sig and the 1million blockchain transaction here http://cointelegraph.com/news/112643/the-mystery-of-the-missing-1000000-nxt)


My impression of CfB is that he doesn't move unless he knows what the next 3-4 moves will be so this will be interesting  ;D If you don't have a lawyer yet BM, you might want to give it some serious thought. We might finally get some answers after all this avoidance and obfuscation when put in front of a judge? Who knows. But as others have said the blockchain doesn't lie. And neither does a PGP signed message, AFAIK  :D



Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: EvilDave on October 03, 2014, 12:59:18 PM
And lets not forget the amazingly libellous statement against Damelon/Bas W.:

The reason why Bas Wisselink refuses to make a statement regarding jl777 is precisely due to everything I've been claiming so far.

He is well aware that jl777 is doing something illegal - and that there is criminal activity happening inside NXT.

There have been countless thefts, frauds, and other assorted crimes during the last few months at NXT, Bas Wisselink said absolutely nothing- aside from raising accusations against me any time people caught on.

So far, of the 2 provable crimes committed in and around this thread: Joshua committed both of them.
Way to go, crusader for justice Josh. You are a frigging genius.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: EvilDave on October 03, 2014, 01:00:59 PM
Lets make that 3 crimes, just for a laugh:

apparently Cadence Jean Morton(cobaltskky) works for :

Spectrum Health
100 Michigan St. Ne
Grand Rapids
Michigan 49503 United States


http://www.mentalhealthsupport.co.uk/AdultBullying.html

BM, please CC me on any electronic correspondence that you send to Spectrum Health.  Here's my personal email address: skkyblu@charter.net

If you're going to take a virtual swing at this lady, she'd like the opportunity to see it coming.

Is it not a crime to publish your personals details online without your consent in U.S?

Hmmm....you know, I think it is.
http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/publication-private-facts:

Quote
A plaintiff must establish four elements to hold someone liable for publication of private facts:

    1. Public Disclosure: The disclosure of facts must be public. Another way of saying this is that the defendant must "give publicity" to the fact or facts in question.
    2. Private Fact: The fact or facts disclosed must be private, and not generally known.
    3. Offensive to a Reasonable Person: Publication of the private facts in question must be offensive to a reasonable person of ordinary sensibilities.
    4. Not Newsworthy: The facts disclosed must not be newsworthy. Stated differently, the facts disclosed must not be a matter of legitimate public concern.

So, BM is on a sticky wicket, as they say in England.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 03, 2014, 01:02:58 PM
Lets make that 3 crimes, just for a laugh:

apparently Cadence Jean Morton(cobaltskky) works for :

Spectrum Health
100 Michigan St. Ne
Grand Rapids
Michigan 49503 United States


http://www.mentalhealthsupport.co.uk/AdultBullying.html

BM, please CC me on any electronic correspondence that you send to Spectrum Health.  Here's my personal email address: skkyblu@charter.net

If you're going to take a virtual swing at this lady, she'd like the opportunity to see it coming.

Is it not a crime to publish your personals details online without your consent in U.S?

Wow - is it?  I need to run to work - can someone please send me a link to this law?  I'd love to read more about it and then plan my next move. :)


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: EvilDave on October 03, 2014, 01:05:22 PM
Look up, CS....edited my post with some extra info.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: DarkhorseofNxt on October 03, 2014, 01:14:32 PM
Should double confirm this with lawyerofnxt. If i am not mistaken, publishing online details is an offense without the other party's consent. I maybe wrong but just wanna make sure.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: EvilDave on October 03, 2014, 01:32:57 PM
Hmmm... the way i'm reading it is that publication of private information, even if factually correct, can be grounds for action:
http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/publication-private-facts

However, BM's search skills aren't exactly awe-inspiring,  AFAIK the information that he's published so far is accessible to anyone who can use Google.
So whether this qualifies as 'private' information, is very debatable.  


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Cassius on October 03, 2014, 01:36:06 PM
We'll, this got even more interestinger.
I suggest someone takes screen grabs, just in case this thread disappears.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: DarkhorseofNxt on October 03, 2014, 01:39:18 PM
Hmmm... the way i'm reading it is that publication of private information, even if factually correct, can be grounds for action:
http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/publication-private-facts

However, BM's search skills aren't exactly awe-inspiring,  AFAIK the information that he's published so far is accessible to anyone who can use Google.
So whether this qualifies as 'private' information, is very debatable.  

Are those information that he posted accesible by anyone?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: EvilDave on October 03, 2014, 04:59:40 PM
@DarkHorse:
Check with Cobalt and Damelon, but so far I'm not seeing any stuff from BM that a quick Google wouldn't turn up.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 03, 2014, 05:31:32 PM


Hello,

  I can look into your request.

  Please supply your full legal name, citizenship and address I can contact you at.

Thank you,

  Joshua Zeidner


Hi, Josh. I replied to your tweet but got no reply back (https://twitter.com/comefrombeyond/status/517233460159983616). I'm not sure if you were kidding or serious, could you provide a proof that you did contact authorities (scanned document, phone number and name of the police officer). Also, could you send me the contact information of your lawyer (to come-from-beyond@mail.ru)? I need to make sure that you do have one.

Please, note that if you refuse to do as I asked, you will clearly show that you lie and actually didn't contact the authorities nor had an intention to do so. By the way, you have no choice. You were always claiming that I was BCNext (the creator of Nxt), you can't just ignore my request, pretending that you don't want to waste your time on me. :)

3 days should be enough, in 3 days I'll make another post to tell the others if you tried to reach me.


PS: Could someone quote my post in case if he tries to make excuses that he put me on ignore list or didn't notice this post?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 03, 2014, 05:34:17 PM
Hmmm... the way i'm reading it is that publication of private information, even if factually correct, can be grounds for action:
http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/publication-private-facts

However, BM's search skills aren't exactly awe-inspiring,  AFAIK the information that he's published so far is accessible to anyone who can use Google.
So whether this qualifies as 'private' information, is very debatable.  

Agreed.  I wouldn't consider anything he's posted to be actionable "private information" as far as this law is concerned.  I keep a high internet profile because I want people to see that I'm a person who doesn't have anything to hide.  Unlike BM, who has yet to respond to my request for the same information that he published, without my consent, about myself.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 03, 2014, 05:37:25 PM


Hello,

  I can look into your request.

  Please supply your full legal name, citizenship and address I can contact you at.

Thank you,

  Joshua Zeidner


Hi, Josh. I replied to your tweet but got no reply back (https://twitter.com/comefrombeyond/status/517233460159983616). I'm not sure if you were kidding or serious, could you provide a proof that you did contact authorities (scanned document, phone number and name of the police officer). Also, could you send me the contact information of your lawyer (to come-from-beyond@mail.ru)? I need to make sure that you do have one.

Please, note that if you refuse to do as I asked, you will clearly show that you lie and actually didn't contact the authorities nor had an intention to do so. By the way, you have no choice. You were always claiming that I was BCNext (the creator of Nxt), you can't just ignore my request, pretending that you don't want to waste your time on me. :)

3 days should be enough, in 3 days I'll make another post to tell the others if you tried to reach me.


PS: Could someone quote my post in case if he tries to make excuses that he put me on ignore list or didn't notice this post?

Why do you keep asking for information from people that you won't supply about yourself?  Why do you deserve that information if you won't pony it up as well?

Also, I spoke to my manager at work today about you bringing my employer into this.  She expects the same thing that I do: my employer doesn't care what you try to tell them.  She specifically said that the most you'll get is a head shake in disbelief and pity.  Please stop attempting communications with them.  If you have a beef with me, bring it to me like an adult, and not a child who tattles on someone because someone they don't like engaged them in conversation.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 03, 2014, 05:43:03 PM
The more that I interact with BM, the more that I start to wonder:

http://i.imgur.com/ySvvALc.png

I'm starting to feel guilty for picking on him if he really does have some sort of mental disability. :/


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 03, 2014, 05:47:48 PM
Candance,

  Who was the manager that you spoke with at Spectrum Health?

  I can supply proof of your involvement with this group to Spectrum Health management.

-Joshua Zeidner


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on October 03, 2014, 05:48:32 PM


Hello,

  I can look into your request.

  Please supply your full legal name, citizenship and address I can contact you at.

Thank you,

  Joshua Zeidner


Hi, Josh. I replied to your tweet but got no reply back (https://twitter.com/comefrombeyond/status/517233460159983616). I'm not sure if you were kidding or serious, could you provide a proof that you did contact authorities (scanned document, phone number and name of the police officer). Also, could you send me the contact information of your lawyer (to come-from-beyond@mail.ru)? I need to make sure that you do have one.

Please, note that if you refuse to do as I asked, you will clearly show that you lie and actually didn't contact the authorities nor had an intention to do so. By the way, you have no choice. You were always claiming that I was BCNext (the creator of Nxt), you can't just ignore my request, pretending that you don't want to waste your time on me. :)

3 days should be enough, in 3 days I'll make another post to tell the others if you tried to reach me.


PS: Could someone quote my post in case if he tries to make excuses that he put me on ignore list or didn't notice this post?

Sergey Ivancheglo
The Republic of Belarus
Minsk, 220020
Cihaya str., 39

PS: Waiting for your email with the contact info of your lawyer. Please, make sure you will do it within 3 days, we don't want to spend months on that, right?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Cassius on October 03, 2014, 05:50:49 PM
The more that I interact with BM, the more that I start to wonder:

http://i.imgur.com/ySvvALc.png

I'm starting to feel guilty for picking on him if he really does have some sort of mental disability. :/

I'd say Narcissistic Personality Disorder, Messianic flavour. Diagnosing people over the internet is never a precise science, but he's ticking a lot of boxes.
Not a disability. And choice is not impaired, so no get out of jail free card there. Can't sidestep responsibility.

Also:
Quote
Sergey Ivancheglo
The Republic of Belarus
Minsk, 220020
Cihaya str., 39
BOOM!


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 03, 2014, 05:52:12 PM
Candance,

  Who was the manager that you spoke with at

  I can supply proof of your involvement with this group to

-Joshua Zeidner


Yes, you can, but so what?  What does it matter?  This is my personal time, and in no way represents the opinions or stance of my employer.

By the way, you just mutilated my name again.

I spoke with Janis Deprieve.  So?

Who is your manager?  Who do you work for?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 03, 2014, 05:54:16 PM

Sergey Ivancheglo
The Republic of Belarus
Minsk, 220020
Cihaya str., 39

PS: Waiting for your email with the contact info of your lawyer. Please, make sure you will do it within 3 days, we don't want to spend months on that, right?

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140322225209/sistersgrimm/images/c/c9/Booyah.gif


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: devphp on October 03, 2014, 05:54:22 PM
To be continued here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=809466.0


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 03, 2014, 05:57:29 PM

Sergey Ivancheglo
The Republic of Belarus
Minsk, 220020
Cihaya str., 39


Hello Mr. Ivancheglo,

  Do you have a phone number my lawyer can contact you at?

Thanks.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 03, 2014, 05:58:32 PM
To be continued here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=809466.0

I'm hopping over to that thread.  I will no longer monitor this thread.  Someone please let me know if I need to respond to some more outrageous accusations over here, via pm , please? :)


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on October 03, 2014, 05:59:15 PM

Sergey Ivancheglo
The Republic of Belarus
Minsk, 220020
Cihaya str., 39


Hello Mr. Ivancheglo,

  Do you have a phone number my lawyer can contact you at?

Thanks.

Yes. Hand over the info of your lawyer and he will get my phone number.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: nutildah on October 03, 2014, 06:27:56 PM

I'd say Narcissistic Personality Disorder, Messianic flavour. Diagnosing people over the internet is never a precise science, but he's ticking a lot of boxes.
Not a disability. And choice is not impaired, so no get out of jail free card there. Can't sidestep responsibility.


I was thinking more along the lines of schizophrenia or bipolar disorder. He exhibits classic signs of paranoia and psychosis. Attempting to bring the government, law and heads of business into his affairs is another sign of disconnection with reality.

I thought he was having a manic episode at first but it seems like this is more of a prolonged psychotic episode.

If he starts talking about Jesus and Aliens next, we'll know for sure.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 03, 2014, 06:30:34 PM
http://johnthewitness.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/theressurectionofalienjesus.jpg
An artistic representation of BM after his famous resurrection.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 03, 2014, 06:46:02 PM
Have you guys checked out his forums?

http://www.altchain.org/?q=forum

Unfortunately, not much interesting there from this thread, but it's interesting to see that James posted there before.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Cassius on October 03, 2014, 07:26:40 PM
Candance,

  Who was the manager that you spoke with at Spectrum Health?

  I can supply proof of your involvement with this group to Spectrum Health management.

-Joshua Zeidner


It's "Candace", not "Candance", though I bet she can.
I'm assuming this is a deliberate misspelling, since you're usually very particular about your English. In fact, it's nearly perfect with extremely good attention to detail. You're clearly well educated, which is nice to see for a change on the web. Your one quirk is that you often use run-ons when starting a new sentence would be the correct grammar. I've only ever seen the combination two or three times before. One of them was a man called TheSir who visited NXT a little while back. He had an thing about cobaltskky too. It's probably just a coincidence though.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 03, 2014, 07:33:47 PM
Candance,

  Who was the manager that you spoke with at Spectrum Health?

  I can supply proof of your involvement with this group to Spectrum Health management.

-Joshua Zeidner


It's "Candace", not "Candance", though I bet she can.
I'm assuming this is a deliberate misspelling, since you're usually very particular about your English. In fact, it's nearly perfect with extremely good attention to detail. You're clearly well educated, which is nice to see for a change on the web. Your one quirk is that you often use run-ons when starting a new sentence would be the correct grammar. I've only ever seen the combination two or three times before. One of them was a man called TheSir who visited NXT a little while back. He had an thing about cobaltskky too. It's probably just a coincidence though.

You know what's particularly interesting is that the guy who created the "NXTRoad" account referred to me as "Candance Morten" at least once.  I think he misspelled my name as Candace another time.  The message is in the blockchain, unencrypted, where he refers to me as "Candance" to another account (which I suspect was a sockpuppet).  Perhaps there is a link between BM and NXTRoad?

In any case, my name isn't Candance or Candace. ;)


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Cassius on October 03, 2014, 07:36:20 PM
Oops  :-[


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: nomoreheroes7 on October 03, 2014, 07:46:21 PM
It's crap threads like this that ultimately decide whether nxt will be a serious contender for the future or not...

Do you guys seriously think this reflects well on your community?

Lately when I think of nxt all I hear are scams, stealings, pissed off people, jl777, etc etc etc...how is any of this supposed to go mainstream when the community is full of whiners/cheats/assholes???


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: devphp on October 03, 2014, 07:48:09 PM
It's crap threads like this that ultimately decide whether nxt will be a serious contender for the future or not...

Do you guys seriously think this reflects well on your community?

Lately when I think of nxt all I hear are scams, stealings, pissed off people, jl777, etc etc etc...how is any of this supposed to go mainstream when the community is full of whiners/cheats/assholes???

NXT is just a technology. It works. And then there is bluemeanie, he apparently is a troll.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: LiQio on October 03, 2014, 07:57:04 PM
Crossposting:

Candence,

   there is no reversing this now. My lawyer has been notified and any further harrasment will be held against you. I have backups of all the previous posts. There is no point in deleting any of those.

why does Spectrum Health promote the NXT Cryptocurrency Scheme?

Joshua Zeidner

bluemeanie1 == Moneroman88


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 03, 2014, 07:57:59 PM
Screencap as evidence posted here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=809466.msg9070742#msg9070742


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 03, 2014, 07:59:41 PM
It's crap threads like this that ultimately decide whether nxt will be a serious contender for the future or not...

Do you guys seriously think this reflects well on your community?

Lately when I think of nxt all I hear are scams, stealings, pissed off people, jl777, etc etc etc...how is any of this supposed to go mainstream when the community is full of whiners/cheats/assholes???

I think this thread shows that there are many individuals dedicated to the Nxt community that are willing to defend both the community and it's members from bullies like BM.  That's the kind of community that I want to be a part of one: one that exhibits solidarity and loyalty.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: nutildah on October 03, 2014, 08:06:33 PM
Crossposting:

Candence,

   there is no reversing this now. My lawyer has been notified and any further harrasment will be held against you. I have backups of all the previous posts. There is no point in deleting any of those.

why does Spectrum Health promote the NXT Cryptocurrency Scheme?

Joshua Zeidner

bluemeanie1 == Moneroman88

Man Josh sure doxed himself more than I think he was intending.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cobaltskky on October 03, 2014, 08:11:48 PM
PS BM, I'm walking away.  Please do not contact myself or my employer again with your bullying attempts.  If you wish to contact me, please do so through your lawyer.  I will give them the contact information for mine and we'll let them hash it out.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: UberNifty on October 03, 2014, 10:07:18 PM
After reading through this thread, I am convinced of one thing only... it has all the right ingredients for a juicy (read scandalous) Hollywood blockbuster. The first scriptwriter to commit this thread into a speculation script potentially stands to make some serious bank.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: fumanchu808 on October 03, 2014, 10:48:51 PM
After reading through this thread, I am convinced of one thing only... it has all the right ingredients for a juicy (read scandalous) Hollywood blockbuster. The first scriptwriter to commit this thread into a speculation script potentially stands to make some serious bank.

Well I just happen to be a screenwriter and the author of the article. So I suppose that means I have to be the one to write it.

Anyone feel like being my agent? I'll give you a whopping 50% commission to sell the thing.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: UberNifty on October 03, 2014, 10:56:23 PM
Anyone feel like being my agent? I'll give you a whopping 50% commission to sell the thing.

And that's the rub right there. Pitching a script is not difficult (I've got the contacts). However, having a script worth pitching is the key, along with a compelling storyboard. I'm definitely potentially interested in a JV, via a private Bitpool (http://www.bitpools.com/) (or equivalent).


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: EvilDave on October 03, 2014, 11:42:24 PM
Anyone feel like being my agent? I'll give you a whopping 50% commission to sell the thing.

And that's the rub right there. Pitching a script is not difficult (I've got the contacts). However, having a script worth pitching is the key, along with a compelling storyboard. I'm definitely potentially interested in a JV, via a private Bitpool (http://www.bitpools.com/) (or equivalent).

Go for it, boys, this story is just getting more and more insane.
If they can get a film out of the founding of Facebook, the first year of NXT should be good enough for 4 seasons on HBO.

It's crap threads like this that ultimately decide whether nxt will be a serious contender for the future or not...

Do you guys seriously think this reflects well on your community?

Lately when I think of nxt all I hear are scams, stealings, pissed off people, jl777, etc etc etc...how is any of this supposed to go mainstream when the community is full of whiners/cheats/assholes???

You're right. This thread sucks balls. But it was started as part of an attack on NXT, and the NXT community is replying.
BM is spreading ridiculous lies and FUD about NXT, which is why 'all you hear is scams, stealings'. I'm not saying that NXT is perfect (tho' we are pretty good), the problem is that if you only see his posts, and nothing from the thousands of happy NXT users, you get the wrong idea.
Check out: www.nxtforum.org for a more balanced view

BlueMeanie has been a toxic presence within crypto for a long time, and it now appears that he may also be responsible for Moneroman88's postings.
He is on a mission to disrupt all crypto, so don't be surprised if his next target is a currency you actually care about:
*CUT*

To say the least, this region is in need of some major cleanup.  I absolutely applaud Ben Lawsky's efforts to reign in all this activity.  These projects are festering pits of crime and derangement, and that goes for practically every one.  I officially have ZERO interest in any existing crypto project.  I assume they are all scams and this situation will persist until Lawsky et al. cleans things up.  I dont plan to further involve myself in this space as a developer until I see a major qualitative change in how things operate.  Regulation is NEEDED 100%.  Those who are resisting it are those who foresee their illicit income streams coming to an end.
Just to reinforce the point: this is what BM thinks of the entire crypto scene. From Bitcoin to NXT to Monero to RobotSexNickels: they are all scams in BMs mind.
This makes him being Moneroman88 very plausible. The BM persona only started posting again on a large scale after Moneroman88 went quiet a week or so ago.
 


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: UberNifty on October 03, 2014, 11:53:34 PM
Quote
If they can get a film out of the founding of Facebook, the first year of NXT should be good enough for 4 seasons on HBO.

I can see it now... the modern crypto version of "Game of Thrones"... definitely just as dark and scandalous!

Quote
BM is spreading ridiculous lies and FUD about NXT, which is why 'all you hear is scams, stealings'. I'm not saying that NXT is perfect (tho' we are pretty good), the problem is that if you only see his posts, and nothing from the thousands of happy NXT users, you get the wrong idea.
Check out: www.nxtforum.org for a more balanced view

BlueMeanie has been a toxic presence within crypto for a long time, and it now appears that he may also be responsible for Moneroman88's postings.
He is on a mission to disrupt all crypto, so don't be surprised if his next target is a currency you actually care about:

So what do you imagine BM's reward for all of this negative press is?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Wendigo on October 04, 2014, 12:02:00 AM
Quote
If they can get a film out of the founding of Facebook, the first year of NXT should be good enough for 4 seasons on HBO.

I can see it now... the modern crypto version of "Game of Thrones"... definitely just as dark and scandalous!

Quote
BM is spreading ridiculous lies and FUD about NXT, which is why 'all you hear is scams, stealings'. I'm not saying that NXT is perfect (tho' we are pretty good), the problem is that if you only see his posts, and nothing from the thousands of happy NXT users, you get the wrong idea.
Check out: www.nxtforum.org for a more balanced view

BlueMeanie has been a toxic presence within crypto for a long time, and it now appears that he may also be responsible for Moneroman88's postings.
He is on a mission to disrupt all crypto, so don't be surprised if his next target is a currency you actually care about:

So what do you imagine BM's reward for all of this negative press is?

HBO confirmed developing "Game of Coins".


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: UberNifty on October 04, 2014, 12:04:58 AM
HBO confirmed developing "Game of Coins".

Ha! No surprise there, though it'll be interesting to see if it actually comes to light (many projects get shitcanned early on).


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: EvilDave on October 04, 2014, 12:21:46 AM

So what do you imagine BM's reward for all of this negative press is?

Ummm....not a lot. unless you count a lifetime of unemployment as a reward.
BM is already on record as accepting 2 coding contracts within crypto, both of which he blew off spectacularly: Open Transactions and jl777s NXTAutoDac.
Any employer who Googles him......yeah, we'll call you back.

Still, I can't feel too sorry for him, he has worked very, very hard to get himself into this fucked-up position.
This is why I am starting to believe that BM may actually have a mental/psychological condition.
I'm not trying to insult him, but his actions don't really make much sense from my point of view.
Either he doesn't realise that he's lying, or he is doing this out of compulsion.

He'd be a lot better off just keeping quiet and enjoying his stolen NXT, rather than trying to launch an anti-crypto crusade.
If i'd just stolen a big fistful of crypto...i'd be hanging out on a sunny coast for a year or 2, not spending my days behind a PC in Phoenix.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: UberNifty on October 04, 2014, 12:38:35 AM
Ummm....not a lot. unless you count a lifetime of unemployment as a reward.
BM is already on record as accepting 2 coding contracts within crypto, both of which he blew off spectacularly: Open Transactions and jl777s NXTAutoDac.
Any employer who Googles him......yeah, we'll call you back.

Ironic, I built the OT news portal and wrote a few pieces for OT, as well (brilliant software; as good as OpenBazaar, with a different approach)... goes to show the crypto world is actually fairly small, albeit with a big net worth.

Still, I can't feel too sorry for him, he has worked very, very hard to get himself into this fucked-up position.
This is why I am starting to believe that BM may actually have a mental/psychological condition.
I'm not trying to insult him, but his actions don't really make much sense from my point of view.
Either he doesn't realise that he's lying, or he is doing this out of compulsion.

Not realizing he's lying would indicate psychopathic or sociopathic tendencies... out of compulsion would indicate that he sincerely believes said bodily threats are real. Fascinating, either way.

He'd be a lot better off just keeping quiet and enjoying his stolen NXT, rather than trying to launch an anti-crypto crusade.
If i'd just stolen a big fistful of crypto...i'd be hanging out on a sunny coast for a year or 2, not spending my days behind a PC in Phoenix.

Good ol' fashioned "white collar" crime at it's finest... crypto-style, that is. Which is what really got me to thinking about BM's real motives.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: DarkhorseofNxt on October 04, 2014, 01:17:27 AM
If JL and nxt shitcoin crew are scammers or not from whois the fault?? yes yours for investing on shit projects.

how can someone even invest in something that is called "next" ? the names that refer itself to their "plan" are all scams.

Taking your context, why would any ordinary person in real world would embrace any crypto currency. Your statement lacks logic.


It's crap threads like this that ultimately decide whether nxt will be a serious contender for the future or not...

Do you guys seriously think this reflects well on your community?

Lately when I think of nxt all I hear are scams, stealings, pissed off people, jl777, etc etc etc...how is any of this supposed to go mainstream when the community is full of whiners/cheats/assholes???

A silly thread decides a future of crypto. A very interesting thought. So what are you suggesting, POP, Proof of Posting?  ;D


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: UberNifty on October 04, 2014, 01:28:27 AM
A silly thread decides a future of crypto. A very interesting thought. So what are you suggesting, POP, Proof of Posting?  ;D

That was actually quite funny and almost even plausible, considering that this gal is introducing a new, exciting "proof of"... proof of strip (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=767424.0).  :o


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: EvilDave on October 04, 2014, 01:32:26 AM
This is too funny to not share...BlueMeanie has figured out who I am (well, he thinks he has  ;D )
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=809657.msg9073874#msg9073874


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: fumanchu808 on October 04, 2014, 02:08:40 AM
Anyone feel like being my agent? I'll give you a whopping 50% commission to sell the thing.

And that's the rub right there. Pitching a script is not difficult (I've got the contacts). However, having a script worth pitching is the key, along with a compelling storyboard. I'm definitely potentially interested in a JV, via a private Bitpool (http://www.bitpools.com/) (or equivalent).

How about you give me ideal specs and I'll write it with your input? Do we want a thriller about a rogue disinformation agent perhaps? Shall we make it an updated "digital" detective yarn?

We can include a nice aside involving a single mom being tormented by an unhinged criminal who contacts her place of employment, using social media to try to sabotage her life, sends threatening or confusing emails to her loved ones, and when she tries to find out what is going on the authorities are completely clueless as how to help... until someone explains to them how a blockchain works... they're able to "follow the money" as a starting point of their investigation... at one point they think it's the Russian Mob... later they suspect numerous government agencies... the big reveal is that it's a simple con artist who who goes to conventions and pretends to be a developer in order to swindle people who have no legal recourse because they have chosen to be anonymous or live abroad.

I can write a feature length film like that in a single weekend if I thought there would be genuine interest.


 


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: UberNifty on October 04, 2014, 02:33:36 AM
Anyone feel like being my agent? I'll give you a whopping 50% commission to sell the thing.

And that's the rub right there. Pitching a script is not difficult (I've got the contacts). However, having a script worth pitching is the key, along with a compelling storyboard. I'm definitely potentially interested in a JV, via a private Bitpool (http://www.bitpools.com/) (or equivalent).

How about you give me ideal specs and I'll write it with your input? Do we want a thriller about a rogue disinformation agent perhaps? Shall we make it an updated "digital" detective yarn?

We can include a nice aside involving a single mom being tormented by an unhinged criminal who contacts her place of employment, using social media to try to sabotage her life, sends threatening or confusing emails to her loved ones, and when she tries to find out what is going on the authorities are completely clueless as how to help... until someone explains to them how a blockchain works... they're able to "follow the money" as a starting point of their investigation... at one point they think it's the Russian Mob... later they suspect numerous government agencies... the big reveal is that it's a simple con artist who who goes to conventions and pretends to be a developer in order to swindle people who have no legal recourse because they have chosen to be anonymous or live abroad.

I can write a feature length film like that in a single weekend if I thought there would be genuine interest.
 

You've definitely got the right idea, albeit with several salient points missing (i.e. antagonist is a psychopath/sociopath/highly disturbed, etc.)As I understand it, you did indeed write the story that started the shitstorm.

While the copyright on the (CoinTelegraph?) story you wrote is presumably yours, the course of events are not exclusively yours; hence this project should be a collaborative effort. That said, PM me if you're serious, I am willing to set up a dedicated BitPool (or perhaps even a private Google Group) for the express purpose of this screenplay.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 04, 2014, 02:35:38 AM
Anyone feel like being my agent? I'll give you a whopping 50% commission to sell the thing.

And that's the rub right there. Pitching a script is not difficult (I've got the contacts). However, having a script worth pitching is the key, along with a compelling storyboard. I'm definitely potentially interested in a JV, via a private Bitpool (http://www.bitpools.com/) (or equivalent).

How about you give me ideal specs and I'll write it with your input? Do we want a thriller about a rogue disinformation agent perhaps? Shall we make it an updated "digital" detective yarn?

We can include a nice aside involving a single mom being tormented by an unhinged criminal who contacts her place of employment, using social media to try to sabotage her life, sends threatening or confusing emails to her loved ones, and when she tries to find out what is going on the authorities are completely clueless as how to help... until someone explains to them how a blockchain works... they're able to "follow the money" as a starting point of their investigation... at one point they think it's the Russian Mob... later they suspect numerous government agencies... the big reveal is that it's a simple con artist who who goes to conventions and pretends to be a developer in order to swindle people who have no legal recourse because they have chosen to be anonymous or live abroad.

I can write a feature length film like that in a single weekend if I thought there would be genuine interest.
 

You've definitely got the right idea, albeit with several salient points missing (i.e. antagonist is a psychopath/sociopath/highly disturbed, etc.)As I understand it, you did indeed write the story that started the shitstorm.



Do you think the article 'The Mystery of the Missing 1,000,000 NXT' caused damage to my reputation?

-Joshua Zeidner


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Kora on October 04, 2014, 02:36:42 AM
Anyone feel like being my agent? I'll give you a whopping 50% commission to sell the thing.

And that's the rub right there. Pitching a script is not difficult (I've got the contacts). However, having a script worth pitching is the key, along with a compelling storyboard. I'm definitely potentially interested in a JV, via a private Bitpool (http://www.bitpools.com/) (or equivalent).

How about you give me ideal specs and I'll write it with your input? Do we want a thriller about a rogue disinformation agent perhaps? Shall we make it an updated "digital" detective yarn?

We can include a nice aside involving a single mom being tormented by an unhinged criminal who contacts her place of employment, using social media to try to sabotage her life, sends threatening or confusing emails to her loved ones, and when she tries to find out what is going on the authorities are completely clueless as how to help... until someone explains to them how a blockchain works... they're able to "follow the money" as a starting point of their investigation... at one point they think it's the Russian Mob... later they suspect numerous government agencies... the big reveal is that it's a simple con artist who who goes to conventions and pretends to be a developer in order to swindle people who have no legal recourse because they have chosen to be anonymous or live abroad.

I can write a feature length film like that in a single weekend if I thought there would be genuine interest.


 

Have your say, enter CryptoFest!

A crypto movie ... why didn't I think of that!! :)

It would appear that the two most 'interesting' stories in crypto at the moment have suddenly collided - "Bluemeanie1 vs NXT" and "BCX vs Monero"

Wow, that's the crypto equivalent of 'Game of Thrones' merging with 'Breaking bad'!!

Everyone, Please feel free to submit an entry to CryptoFest!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=801933.0

Quote
Introducing 'Cryptofest': Short Film festival

Sponsored by ORA

http://www.cryptofest.tv/ (http://www.cryptofest.tv/)

http://i61.tinypic.com/2z6h10z.jpg (http://www.cryptofest.tv/)

First Prize - the Palme d'ORA
- 2 bitcoins
- 5 Million ORA assets

People's Choice Award
- 1 bitcoin
- 2.5 Million ORA assets

166,666 ORA assets for each valid entry



Your mission should you choose to accept it
Submit a new short film or multimedia work on the theme of 'Cryptographic currencies'

To help ensure entries are unique & new you must include a "Starfish" as a 'signature item' somewhere in your work.

Conditions
- Your submission must be a new original work

- You can submit as many entries as you want

- Your work must be less than 5 minutes

- You can work in teams, but you can only submit your own work

- You must consent to having your work displayed on ORA affiliated websites

- We might include a small ORA 'watermark' on your video for promotion purposes

- ORA may include your work on a 'festival' DVD (all DVD sales will be in ORA, and go into the ORA charity fund)

- Nothing racist, defamatory, derogatory

- Don't infringe anybodies copyright without permission

- All entries will be vetted for suitability and the organisers decision is final on whether to include a submission in the competition or not

For more information go to http://www.cryptofest.tv/ (http://www.cryptofest.tv/)

A BIG thanks to fragORA for making the AMAZING CryptoFest.tv site!!!



Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: DarkhorseofNxt on October 04, 2014, 02:41:54 AM
Please submit that into the Cryptofest being organised by Ora. More information cryptofest.tv

Edit: Kora beat me to that.  ;D


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: DarkhorseofNxt on October 04, 2014, 02:43:50 AM
Anyone feel like being my agent? I'll give you a whopping 50% commission to sell the thing.

And that's the rub right there. Pitching a script is not difficult (I've got the contacts). However, having a script worth pitching is the key, along with a compelling storyboard. I'm definitely potentially interested in a JV, via a private Bitpool (http://www.bitpools.com/) (or equivalent).

How about you give me ideal specs and I'll write it with your input? Do we want a thriller about a rogue disinformation agent perhaps? Shall we make it an updated "digital" detective yarn?

We can include a nice aside involving a single mom being tormented by an unhinged criminal who contacts her place of employment, using social media to try to sabotage her life, sends threatening or confusing emails to her loved ones, and when she tries to find out what is going on the authorities are completely clueless as how to help... until someone explains to them how a blockchain works... they're able to "follow the money" as a starting point of their investigation... at one point they think it's the Russian Mob... later they suspect numerous government agencies... the big reveal is that it's a simple con artist who who goes to conventions and pretends to be a developer in order to swindle people who have no legal recourse because they have chosen to be anonymous or live abroad.

I can write a feature length film like that in a single weekend if I thought there would be genuine interest.
 

You've definitely got the right idea, albeit with several salient points missing (i.e. antagonist is a psychopath/sociopath/highly disturbed, etc.)As I understand it, you did indeed write the story that started the shitstorm.



Do you think the article 'The Mystery of the Missing 1,000,000 NXT' caused damage to my reputation?

-Joshua Zeidner


And you think these threads @ threats will damage Nxt?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: UberNifty on October 04, 2014, 02:45:10 AM
Simply bad ass. No wonder I so dearly love the wild and crazy world of crypto! My above offer stands to those in the know, that can conduct business professionally. I'm serious. This story freakin' ROCKS, and would do more to push crypto into the mainstream than any other single endeavour.

It would appear that the two most 'interesting' stories in crypto at the moment have suddenly collided - "Bluemeanie1 vs NXT" and "BCX vs Monero"

Wow, that's the crypto equivalent of 'Game of Thrones' merging with 'Breaking bad'!!

Everyone, Please feel free to submit an entry to CryptoFest!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=801933.0

Quote
Introducing 'Cryptofest': Short Film festival

Sponsored by ORA

http://www.cryptofest.tv/ (http://www.cryptofest.tv/)

http://i61.tinypic.com/2z6h10z.jpg (http://www.cryptofest.tv/)

First Prize - the Palme d'ORA
- 2 bitcoins
- 5 Million ORA assets

People's Choice Award
- 1 bitcoin
- 2.5 Million ORA assets

166,666 ORA assets for each valid entry



Your mission should you choose to accept it
Submit a new short film or multimedia work on the theme of 'Cryptographic currencies'

To help ensure entries are unique & new you must include a "Starfish" as a 'signature item' somewhere in your work.

Conditions
- Your submission must be a new original work

- You can submit as many entries as you want

- Your work must be less than 5 minutes

- You can work in teams, but you can only submit your own work

- You must consent to having your work displayed on ORA affiliated websites

- We might include a small ORA 'watermark' on your video for promotion purposes

- ORA may include your work on a 'festival' DVD (all DVD sales will be in ORA, and go into the ORA charity fund)

- Nothing racist, defamatory, derogatory

- Don't infringe anybodies copyright without permission

- All entries will be vetted for suitability and the organisers decision is final on whether to include a submission in the competition or not

For more information go to http://www.cryptofest.tv/ (http://www.cryptofest.tv/)

A BIG thanks to fragORA for making the AMAZING CryptoFest.tv site!!!



Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: UberNifty on October 04, 2014, 02:47:21 AM
Please submit that into the Cryptofest being organised by Ora. More information cryptofest.tv

Edit: Kora beat me to that.  ;D

Already in the works, since it was me that spawned the idea... didn't know about the Film Festival, though. Nice one!


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Kora on October 04, 2014, 02:48:23 AM
Please submit that into the Cryptofest being organised by Ora. More information cryptofest.tv

Edit: Kora beat me to that.  ;D

haha, great minds think alike :)

It does seem like a perfect storm for material now - "Bluemeanie/moneroman & NXT" & "monero vs BCX" - That's a BIG canvas to work with!!

Who wants to try and sum the situation up in 4-5 minutes of video?

Picture says a thousand words, short film probably says a Billion!!

Documentary, mockumentary, fiction, musical, direct to camera monologues, dialogues/interviews  ... anything you want.



Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: UberNifty on October 04, 2014, 02:50:43 AM
Done deal! hence the above mentioned storyboard I referenced (except in super short video format). SWEET!  ;D

Please submit that into the Cryptofest being organised by Ora. More information cryptofest.tv

Edit: Kora beat me to that.  ;D

haha, great minds think alike :)

It does seem like a perfect storm for material now - Bluemeanie/moneroman & NXT & monero vs BCX! That's a BIG canvas to work with!!

Who wants to try and sum the situation up in 4-5 minutes of video?

Picture says a thousand words, short film probably says a Billion!!

Documentary, mockumentary, fiction, musical, direct to camera monologues, dialogues/interviews  ... anything you want.




Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Kora on October 04, 2014, 02:53:34 AM
Done deal! hence the above mentioned storyboard I referenced (except in super short video format). SWEET!  ;D

Please submit that into the Cryptofest being organised by Ora. More information cryptofest.tv

Edit: Kora beat me to that.  ;D

haha, great minds think alike :)

It does seem like a perfect storm for material now - Bluemeanie/moneroman & NXT & monero vs BCX! That's a BIG canvas to work with!!

Who wants to try and sum the situation up in 4-5 minutes of video?

Picture says a thousand words, short film probably says a Billion!!

Documentary, mockumentary, fiction, musical, direct to camera monologues, dialogues/interviews  ... anything you want.



Excellent UberNifty!! We look forward to receiving your entry!

I hope all parties take up this opportunity to present their point-of-view!!


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: UberNifty on October 04, 2014, 02:58:59 AM
The kicker is that this can evolve into a real (offline) movie, which is where I see the greatest potential. However, anything, no matter how small, that can grab traction (i.e. viral video) is definitely one step closer to crypto mass adoption!

Done deal! hence the above mentioned storyboard I referenced (except in super short video format). SWEET!  ;D

Please submit that into the Cryptofest being organised by Ora. More information cryptofest.tv

Edit: Kora beat me to that.  ;D

haha, great minds think alike :)

It does seem like a perfect storm for material now - Bluemeanie/moneroman & NXT & monero vs BCX! That's a BIG canvas to work with!!

Who wants to try and sum the situation up in 4-5 minutes of video?

Picture says a thousand words, short film probably says a Billion!!

Documentary, mockumentary, fiction, musical, direct to camera monologues, dialogues/interviews  ... anything you want.



Excellent UberNifty!! We look forward to receiving your entry!

I hope all parties take up this opportunity to present their point-of-view!!



Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: fumanchu808 on October 04, 2014, 03:17:42 AM
Anyone feel like being my agent? I'll give you a whopping 50% commission to sell the thing.

And that's the rub right there. Pitching a script is not difficult (I've got the contacts). However, having a script worth pitching is the key, along with a compelling storyboard. I'm definitely potentially interested in a JV, via a private Bitpool (http://www.bitpools.com/) (or equivalent).

How about you give me ideal specs and I'll write it with your input? Do we want a thriller about a rogue disinformation agent perhaps? Shall we make it an updated "digital" detective yarn?

We can include a nice aside involving a single mom being tormented by an unhinged criminal who contacts her place of employment, using social media to try to sabotage her life, sends threatening or confusing emails to her loved ones, and when she tries to find out what is going on the authorities are completely clueless as how to help... until someone explains to them how a blockchain works... they're able to "follow the money" as a starting point of their investigation... at one point they think it's the Russian Mob... later they suspect numerous government agencies... the big reveal is that it's a simple con artist who who goes to conventions and pretends to be a developer in order to swindle people who have no legal recourse because they have chosen to be anonymous or live abroad.

I can write a feature length film like that in a single weekend if I thought there would be genuine interest.
 

You've definitely got the right idea, albeit with several salient points missing (i.e. antagonist is a psychopath/sociopath/highly disturbed, etc.)As I understand it, you did indeed write the story that started the shitstorm.



Do you think the article 'The Mystery of the Missing 1,000,000 NXT' caused damage to my reputation?

-Joshua Zeidner


I merely present the facts and offer my analysis (which is ultimately a subjective opinion about the facts). I trust my readers to draw their own conclusions. Is it my fault they all seem to agree with my rational, fact based analysis? Is it the rational universe that's wrong? Is the blockchain lying? Or... and I know this might sound crazy... did you really do something you shouldn't have done?





Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: devphp on October 04, 2014, 03:19:06 AM
Joshua Zeidner Bluemeanie, return one million NXT that you stole from NXT community, you sick fuck!


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: UberNifty on October 04, 2014, 03:20:04 AM
Ah yes, the plot thickens...

Quote
I merely present the facts and offer my analysis (which is ultimately a subjective opinion about the facts). I trust my readers to draw their own conclusions. Is it my fault they all seem to agree with my rational, fact based analysis? Is it the rational universe that's wrong? Is the blockchain lying? Or... and I know this might sound crazy... did you really do something you shouldn't have done?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: fumanchu808 on October 04, 2014, 03:35:32 AM
And the story is picking up steam even as we speak, placing me personally in the top 3.

I suppose I'll have to send Blue Meanie a thank you letter when this finally plays out. It's not everyday you can find someone so crooked the whole world will rally behind you for standing up to him.




Ah yes, the plot thickens...

Quote
I merely present the facts and offer my analysis (which is ultimately a subjective opinion about the facts). I trust my readers to draw their own conclusions. Is it my fault they all seem to agree with my rational, fact based analysis? Is it the rational universe that's wrong? Is the blockchain lying? Or... and I know this might sound crazy... did you really do something you shouldn't have done?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: UberNifty on October 04, 2014, 03:43:48 AM
Lest not forget the important part... and pay to be entertained rally for the hero. Anyhow, PM me when you get a chance. I got a dedicated Google Group (aptly titled "NXT Movie Project) freshly set up. I am itchin' to assign you as Mod (cobaltskky and I have been in communication, and she's also expressed a distinct interest). Let's do this thing!

And the story is picking up steam even as we speak, placing me personally in the top 3.

I suppose I'll have to send Blue Meanie a thank you letter when this finally plays out. It's not everyday you can find someone so crooked the whole world will rally behind you for standing up to him.


Ah yes, the plot thickens...

Quote
I merely present the facts and offer my analysis (which is ultimately a subjective opinion about the facts). I trust my readers to draw their own conclusions. Is it my fault they all seem to agree with my rational, fact based analysis? Is it the rational universe that's wrong? Is the blockchain lying? Or... and I know this might sound crazy... did you really do something you shouldn't have done?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Seketsuna on October 04, 2014, 04:04:58 AM
a scammer accusing someone about scam, seems legit oh well its so sad that your infos are posted in the scam accusation


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanieisgay on October 04, 2014, 04:52:49 AM

This person, (bluemeanie) is a low life scum bag.  A proven thief, liar, and a bully.  I've seen his type before.  Intelligent, but sociopathic.  Thinks of no one but himself and will make any rationalization to justify self serving and immoral/illegal/harmful behavior.  A dangerous individual.  Will continue scamming at least until arrested and jailed, and possibly would commit far more heinous crimes if the motive and opportunity presented themselves.    Overestimates his ability to make lies appear truthful.  Will keep lying even when plainly observable facts contradict him.  Twists conversations in endlessly creative ways, but only to keep lying or further his own agenda.  Doesn't answer critical questions directly.  Loves to make threats, both overt and veiled.  A favorite tactic is to threaten legal action. Pretends to be more successful than really is.  You can never win an argument with a person like this.

It is best to withdrawal attention from these kinds of people. Identify their crimes, and do not personally respond to them. 



Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: mczarnek on October 04, 2014, 07:52:04 PM
"bluemeanie" in a nutshell: depression, defamation, outright frustration, a man of lies and troublemaking

It is truly sad. Who would want to live this way?


I think his username says it all..  he's "blue" and a "meanie".

@bluemeanie
Please answer one question:
What happened to the 1 million Nxt?

I'm not willing to continue this discussion further unless there is an answer to that question.  I have seen nothing but complete avoidance of that question and attempts to instead throw as many accusations as possible against anyone who asks it.


If you cashed it out when you were still intending to work on the project.. that's fine, your Nxt and it is your right to decide whether to hold on to Nxt or sell them IF you returned them when you decided to not participate in the project anymore that you'd already been paid for.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: SZZT on October 04, 2014, 08:09:41 PM
Seriously though, OP is a sad case.
https://i.imgur.com/xVVfu6K.png


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: nutildah on October 04, 2014, 08:11:06 PM

The US authorities have already been contacted.

http://i.imgur.com/INMKcKi.png


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: NattyLiteCoin on October 05, 2014, 04:51:24 AM
I contacted a FBI agent that I know well in real life, cybers security division, with regards to the apparent doxing of Satoshi that was posted in the main forum. You've heard of Satoshi, right? The entity that has a million bitcoin and arguably put the federal reserve banking concept on the ropes and changed the world forever? You know what he said? He told me that nothing would be even considered for investigation unless the party wronged came filed a legitimate complaint. What's your complaint you fucking jamoke: "you took a million NXT from me, when I see you I'm going to beat your monkey ass" said the C programmer.

I digress. Shut the fuck up. Actually, I'll give you 20 BTC to shut the fuck up. It's so sad to see such a butt-hurt space cadet that would give 20BTC to someone for proof that Barack Obama is responsible for legislation that gives gold stars to Inuit Tribal youngsters for clubbing baby seals with petrified whale dicks.

Wipe off your pussy and let it go. There is no authorities being contacted. If there were, they would not care. There is no civil action, your reputation is damaged because you're a thief in the court of public opinion. You have nothing but folks slapping their knee and high-fiving their friends because they're not you.

It really is sad.  





Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: sidhujag on October 05, 2014, 07:12:03 AM
seems this thread is dead till bm gives us all head.. not that im a nxt bull i just think there are idiots im any space...


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: illodin on October 05, 2014, 08:12:33 PM
Excuse me but this is no teenage drama, I am no teenager.  Im a software professional.

They are attacking me under my real name, repeatedly.

If you don't like that, then don't go stealing peoples monies dumbass idiot.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bitcoinevent on October 05, 2014, 10:50:49 PM
I sent enough information via personal message. It should be enough to locate the person via skip trace or any similar tool. You don't have to send me the 20 BTC, but i'll take 5 - figure you will incur a few expenses :)

Here's my BTC Address: 1E7uApuRk3KJAX1M4bYrpDguiTtHxoUFfj


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: TheMage on October 06, 2014, 02:45:04 AM
Anyone feel like being my agent? I'll give you a whopping 50% commission to sell the thing.

And that's the rub right there. Pitching a script is not difficult (I've got the contacts). However, having a script worth pitching is the key, along with a compelling storyboard. I'm definitely potentially interested in a JV, via a private Bitpool (http://www.bitpools.com/) (or equivalent).

Go for it, boys, this story is just getting more and more insane.
If they can get a film out of the founding of Facebook, the first year of NXT should be good enough for 4 seasons on HBO.

It's crap threads like this that ultimately decide whether nxt will be a serious contender for the future or not...

Do you guys seriously think this reflects well on your community?

Lately when I think of nxt all I hear are scams, stealings, pissed off people, jl777, etc etc etc...how is any of this supposed to go mainstream when the community is full of whiners/cheats/assholes???

You're right. This thread sucks balls. But it was started as part of an attack on NXT, and the NXT community is replying.
BM is spreading ridiculous lies and FUD about NXT, which is why 'all you hear is scams, stealings'. I'm not saying that NXT is perfect (tho' we are pretty good), the problem is that if you only see his posts, and nothing from the thousands of happy NXT users, you get the wrong idea.
Check out: www.nxtforum.org for a more balanced view

BlueMeanie has been a toxic presence within crypto for a long time, and it now appears that he may also be responsible for Moneroman88's postings.
He is on a mission to disrupt all crypto, so don't be surprised if his next target is a currency you actually care about:
*CUT*

To say the least, this region is in need of some major cleanup.  I absolutely applaud Ben Lawsky's efforts to reign in all this activity.  These projects are festering pits of crime and derangement, and that goes for practically every one.  I officially have ZERO interest in any existing crypto project.  I assume they are all scams and this situation will persist until Lawsky et al. cleans things up.  I dont plan to further involve myself in this space as a developer until I see a major qualitative change in how things operate.  Regulation is NEEDED 100%.  Those who are resisting it are those who foresee their illicit income streams coming to an end.
Just to reinforce the point: this is what BM thinks of the entire crypto scene. From Bitcoin to NXT to Monero to RobotSexNickels: they are all scams in BMs mind.
This makes him being Moneroman88 very plausible. The BM persona only started posting again on a large scale after Moneroman88 went quiet a week or so ago.
 


I have had the absolute pleasure of having to deal with Bluemeanie before his theft of 1mil NXT. About a month before the theft, he was bashing on Litecoin quite a bit. Little did I realize at that time he is not a rational person at all. The irony of all of it was that he was pumping NXT all while stating Litecoin was a scam and so on. So I would agree with the statement that he has a personal vendetta against crypto's.

To be perfectly frank, I wouldnt be surprised to find out he is either A a die hard Bitcoin person who has some deep personal hated for alt coins, or B he is actually someone who works for the US government in order to infiltrate the crypto eco-system and cause disruption (i.e. NSA leaked documents stating they go into communities online and spread the FUD so far and wide it destroys the community).

At any rate, it would certainly be more plausible that he is sociopath considering his actions. I have dealt with these people before, and you can not rationalize with them. So much so that even if he made up in his mind that the sky isnt blue, there is nothing that would convince him that it was blue (he will claim the sky is purple, and not a single threat or action would change his mind).


Unfortunately the NXT community will have to deal with the fact that they were cheated out of coins. Bluemeanie, I doubt there is medication out there for your issues. You sir are a piece of work, and I do not mean that in a complementary way either (think another saying that starts with "piece of XXX). ;)


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: devphp on October 06, 2014, 01:35:09 PM
It's enough to remind everyone at any presented opportunity that Joshua Bluemeanie Zeidner stole 1 million NXT and hasn't returned it and he's a thief, there is no need to rationalize anything with him or talk to him at all :)


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on October 06, 2014, 01:57:56 PM
Hi, Josh. I replied to your tweet but got no reply back (https://twitter.com/comefrombeyond/status/517233460159983616). I'm not sure if you were kidding or serious, could you provide a proof that you did contact authorities (scanned document, phone number and name of the police officer). Also, could you send me the contact information of your lawyer (to come-from-beyond@mail.ru)? I need to make sure that you do have one.

Please, note that if you refuse to do as I asked, you will clearly show that you lie and actually didn't contact the authorities nor had an intention to do so. By the way, you have no choice. You were always claiming that I was BCNext (the creator of Nxt), you can't just ignore my request, pretending that you don't want to waste your time on me. :)

3 days should be enough, in 3 days I'll make another post to tell the others if you tried to reach me.


PS: Could someone quote my post in case if he tries to make excuses that he put me on ignore list or didn't notice this post?

Joshua Zeidner aka Bluemeanie didn't send me his lawyer contact info even after I reminded him about that several times. I think actually BM didn't contact authorities and doesn't have a lawyer. I suggest to leave this poor guy alone, he obviously has serious problems with socialization and can't be responsible for his deeds. The info I got about his life shows that he doesn't have family nor friends and our cryptocommunity is the only "friends" he has. You can imagine how terrible his life is...


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: illodin on October 06, 2014, 07:57:19 PM
Joshua Zeidner aka Bluemeanie didn't send me his lawyer contact info even after I reminded him about that several times.

What a surprise.  ::)


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: mczarnek on October 06, 2014, 09:14:22 PM
bluemeanie, you haven't told us your side of the story regarding the million Nxt.  What kind of deal did the Nxt community make with you before sending you the Nxt?  You told me in Skype chats that you returned all the Nxt sent to you and the only thing you were holding on to was jl777 assets because there wasn't an official deal first.. is that correct?  I tend to believe the community would know about the 1 million Nxt being returned. Do you have blockchain proof?

Assuming you didn't return it, maybe we can get a deal?  You agree to return it and we try to get you something in return?  Maybe pay for some therapy/doctor appointments? What ever it is you need to get back on your feet?

People normally don't have the amount of rage or hatred or whatever it is that you seem to have. If there is some way we could help you, let us know. I recommend MagTein and fish oil. Both help you think clearer and improve memory and all sorts of good benefits.


I suspect the guy has lost a couple jobs after this kind of behavior, he was in debt and doesn't see any way out of it.. until he saw the million Nxt, cashed out, then decided he didn't have anything to gain by actually completing the project, given he'd been paid.  He probably also didn't realize the extent to which this would haunt him.  Because he definitely will not be able to find a job without an employer doing a google search and finding all this stuff..  Nxt is cheap now though, if he could buy them back and return them, seeing a "bluemeanie returned the Nxt on 10/10/2014" at the bottom of all the articles.. would definitely help your reputation and you better believe the community would leave you alone.  Though he probably doesn't have enough money to buy back the Nxt he sold by this point.. probably invested any extra he had into NFD or some other coin before it tanked alongside all other cryptos.

Also, I hear bluemeanie's wallet was hacked, not sure when, maybe he lost the funds which was when he turned against the community?  Though seeing how many cryptos he's turned against.. I doubt that.

Finally, note that not once have I used your real name in public forums, twitter, etc or anywhere that could be found via Google. I'd appreciate if you removed mine from records.  Preferably, the names of other Nxters as well.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: ShroomsKit_Disgrace on October 07, 2014, 09:04:46 AM
Please Joshua, respond this:
Hi, Josh. I replied to your tweet but got no reply back (https://twitter.com/comefrombeyond/status/517233460159983616). I'm not sure if you were kidding or serious, could you provide a proof that you did contact authorities (scanned document, phone number and name of the police officer). Also, could you send me the contact information of your lawyer (to come-from-beyond@mail.ru)? I need to make sure that you do have one.

Please, note that if you refuse to do as I asked, you will clearly show that you lie and actually didn't contact the authorities nor had an intention to do so. By the way, you have no choice. You were always claiming that I was BCNext (the creator of Nxt), you can't just ignore my request, pretending that you don't want to waste your time on me. :)

3 days should be enough, in 3 days I'll make another post to tell the others if you tried to reach me.


PS: Could someone quote my post in case if he tries to make excuses that he put me on ignore list or didn't notice this post?

Joshua Zeidner aka Bluemeanie didn't send me his lawyer contact info even after I reminded him about that several times. I think actually BM didn't contact authorities and doesn't have a lawyer. I suggest to leave this poor guy alone, he obviously has serious problems with socialization and can't be responsible for his deeds. The info I got about his life shows that he doesn't have family nor friends and our cryptocommunity is the only "friends" he has. You can imagine how terrible his life is...


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: fumanchu808 on October 07, 2014, 09:06:49 AM
bluemeanie, you haven't told us your side of the story regarding the million Nxt.  What kind of deal did the Nxt community make with you before sending you the Nxt?  You told me in Skype chats that you returned all the Nxt sent to you and the only thing you were holding on to was jl777 assets because there wasn't an official deal first.. is that correct?  I tend to believe the community would know about the 1 million Nxt being returned. Do you have blockchain proof?

Assuming you didn't return it, maybe we can get a deal?  You agree to return it and we try to get you something in return?  Maybe pay for some therapy/doctor appointments? What ever it is you need to get back on your feet?

People normally don't have the amount of rage or hatred or whatever it is that you seem to have. If there is some way we could help you, let us know. I recommend MagTein and fish oil. Both help you think clearer and improve memory and all sorts of good benefits.


I suspect the guy has lost a couple jobs after this kind of behavior, he was in debt and doesn't see any way out of it.. until he saw the million Nxt, cashed out, then decided he didn't have anything to gain by actually completing the project, given he'd been paid.  He probably also didn't realize the extent to which this would haunt him.  Because he definitely will not be able to find a job without an employer doing a google search and finding all this stuff..  Nxt is cheap now though, if he could buy them back and return them, seeing a "bluemeanie returned the Nxt on 10/10/2014" at the bottom of all the articles.. would definitely help your reputation and you better believe the community would leave you alone.  Though he probably doesn't have enough money to buy back the Nxt he sold by this point.. probably invested any extra he had into NFD or some other coin before it tanked alongside all other cryptos.

Also, I hear bluemeanie's wallet was hacked, not sure when, maybe he lost the funds which was when he turned against the community?  Though seeing how many cryptos he's turned against.. I doubt that.

Finally, note that not once have I used your real name in public forums, twitter, etc or anywhere that could be found via Google. I'd appreciate if you removed mine from records.  Preferably, the names of other Nxters as well.

If he returns the 1,000,000 NXT I will happily do a follow up article casting him in a better light.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: illodin on October 07, 2014, 09:16:41 AM
Please Joshua, respond this:
Hi, Josh. I replied to your tweet but got no reply back (https://twitter.com/comefrombeyond/status/517233460159983616). I'm not sure if you were kidding or serious, could you provide a proof that you did contact authorities (scanned document, phone number and name of the police officer). Also, could you send me the contact information of your lawyer (to come-from-beyond@mail.ru)? I need to make sure that you do have one.

Please, note that if you refuse to do as I asked, you will clearly show that you lie and actually didn't contact the authorities nor had an intention to do so. By the way, you have no choice. You were always claiming that I was BCNext (the creator of Nxt), you can't just ignore my request, pretending that you don't want to waste your time on me. :)

3 days should be enough, in 3 days I'll make another post to tell the others if you tried to reach me.


PS: Could someone quote my post in case if he tries to make excuses that he put me on ignore list or didn't notice this post?

Joshua Zeidner aka Bluemeanie didn't send me his lawyer contact info even after I reminded him about that several times. I think actually BM didn't contact authorities and doesn't have a lawyer. I suggest to leave this poor guy alone, he obviously has serious problems with socialization and can't be responsible for his deeds. The info I got about his life shows that he doesn't have family nor friends and our cryptocommunity is the only "friends" he has. You can imagine how terrible his life is...

His bluff got called and he mucked lol.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: muddafudda on October 08, 2014, 06:52:05 PM
i want to see what is going to happen here , this is by far one of the most unusual threads i have seen in a while on alt coins (and not even in that section !!)) 

heard plenty of rumors ; nobody knows......(well I don' have any useful info and even if I did I tend to respect peoples privacy so I would not divulge anyone for some btc)  still if a 'dishonest' project is 'running' it should not be.....

quite a while ago i asked for the source of nxt on one of their threads to 'study' out of genuine curiosity / I never got to review it much more than a few hours though since I was busy with other things.   I may go back now and review it if JG says it does not match what is released.
From studying work of him and others with his experience level on github and other places I have learned many things.   

I will step back out of the way now and be keeping an eye out.

Very curious where this is headed.



I very much doubt your ability to understand and read the code.


Title: Edward Hickman, Honolulu, jl777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 08, 2014, 07:04:12 PM
If he returns the 1,000,000 NXT I will happily do a follow up article casting him in a better light.

This account is operated by Edward Hickman of Honolulu, HI.

There is a great deal of evidence that Edward has a close working relationship with jl777.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=808029.0


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: devphp on October 08, 2014, 07:09:12 PM
Joshua Zeidner, return 1 million NXT to the community, dumb fuck!


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: ShroomsKit_Disgrace on October 08, 2014, 07:12:58 PM
Hey Josh!

Why did you not provide the "official" documents of your lawsuit against NXT community!?

We are all waiting eagerly

Thanks!


P.D: Apart from returning back the stolen money  ::)


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: stereotype on October 08, 2014, 07:14:06 PM
...... dumb fuck!

and a murderer, allegedly.      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=816312.msg9131698#msg9131698  


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: zondic on October 08, 2014, 07:37:03 PM
What a freaking show this thread is!!!


Title: Re: Edward Hickman, Honolulu, jl777
Post by: nutildah on October 08, 2014, 07:42:26 PM
If he returns the 1,000,000 NXT I will happily do a follow up article casting him in a better light.

This account is operated by Edward Hickman of Honolulu, HI.

There is a great deal of evidence that Edward has a close working relationship with jl777.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=808029.0

Why have you not once answered the question of what you did with your 1,000,000 NXT? I know you got rid of it all months ago, what did you do with it?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Business on October 08, 2014, 07:44:59 PM
20 Bitcoins is a lot of money, you have that ammount?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: SZZT on October 08, 2014, 07:56:59 PM
20 Bitcoins is a lot of money, you have that ammount?

of course he does, he stole +70 btc, from a NXT funded project.
http://cointelegraph.com/news/112643/the-mystery-of-the-missing-1000000-nxt
Now he wants to use those funds for doxxing and threatening community members, bloggers and whoever he deems a threat.

joshua zeidner aka bluemeanie1 aka bluemeanie4 aka bluemeanie11 aka CEOofTheFlies aka moneroman88 return the stolen funds.

oops
http://i.imgur.com/ZQe3VyQ.jpg


One thing I want to point out quickly regarding the chance that jl777 is pulling some sort of scam(I posted something similar in another thread):

The superNET funds are going to be held in distributed escrow. And it's actually worked out right now, due to the quickness of the launch that James currently holds a very large amount of NXT. And this amount of money is currently more then he's ever likely to hold again during the course of the project.

Complete bullshit, jl777 has now collected over 27000000 NXT (that's 2100 BTC or over 1 MILLION US DOLLARS) from selling the shady TOKEN assets in his NXT account to that only he, I repeat, ONLY HE HIMSELF has access.

http://www.nxtreporting.com/?ac=NXT-MRBN-8DFH-PFMK-A4DBM

He has this amount and can run away at any given time, unexpectedly and suddenly. Don't dare to state fairytales. He said his aim is 10000 BTC so don't expect him to run away before that date (I don't). *Mark my words*, once 10k BTC is full jl777 is going to be *vanished*. You SuperNET cult members will all cry like little babies then mourning for your losses that will never come back because the smart one took it. Do people ever learn? Do they ever learn? It's horrendous...

So many NxT people trust jl777, but ask your self why ?

They do trust jl777 and Nxt because that's what Nxt is all about - *draining money of poor investors for their own financial benefit*. That's the very core essence of the SuperNET and jl777 admitted this several times on his own. It is very shady for sure and the scale of this hoax is remarkable. jL777 undoubtedly is a very smart fellow, my respect for the intellectual part of it. But morally totally and entirely unacceptable by any possible measure.



It amazes me to understand how people can make up conclusion about something they not even took their time or researched what a escrow is. He can't run away with all the BTC because he don't have them.

This is like saying that Etherum people would run away with the BTC their got even tho they didn't used a escrow i think people behind those projects really have more inside their brain then to steal people Bitcoins.

Complete bullshit, the scammer jl777 has over 27000000 NXT (that's 2100 BTC or 1 MILLION US DOLLARS) from selling those TOKEN assets in his NXT account to that only he, I repeat, ONLY HE HIMSELF has access.

http://www.nxtreporting.com/?ac=NXT-MRBN-8DFH-PFMK-A4DBM

He has this amount and can run away at anytime. He said his aim is 10000 BTC so don't expect him to run away before that date. Mark my words, once 10k BTC is full jl777 is going to be vanished. You guys will all cry like little babies then mourning for your losses that will never come back because the smart one took it. People never learn. If you don't believe then you'll have to feel, it was your brainless decision after all.

Burn in hell with all ur moronic threads

~CfA~

You're just a NXT-shill, I don't even take you serious. All you really are is a piece of shit supporting the NXT AE scams pull-off promoted by jl777.


MONEROMAN, OP OF jl777 asset scammer EXPOSED . . . buy XMR instead (real future):

good summary:
jl777 seems to be a really smart thief. Stealing from his investor of all assets he hold.
I am glad I am on the "good" side. The only thing rpietila is pumping is Monero, nothing else from what I can tell by any of his post. He is not advocating any other altcoin, while this jl777 have 50 different pumps going on probably where he hold everything. It's like he built 50 castles of promises, while rpietila have 1 castle promoting financial privacy.

How easy it is to make money once you have a reputation. jl777 is going to take over the world (atleast he thinks) by having people buy all his crap assets. Compare BTCD, is it even working? Is the tech good? Are many people actively working on it? By my study, by going to check out the IRC channels I see nothing happening in #bitcoindark, around 21 people here, while there is 100+ in #monero-dev including core bitcoin developers.

The reason why Bitcoin Core developers is in #monero-dev and not #bitcoindark or #darkcoin? You should be able to read between my lines, but I will tell you right here, it is probably because the anonymity tech provided is really good.

Now with so many people believing in this crazy baseless hype - don't lose sight of the real crypto future: Monero

Don't lose your hard earned money with this JLH crap guys. Monero doesn't need this jl777 asset scamming scheme. Monero already is by far the number one, technology-wise, community-wise, best coin hands down number one above all / except the price that's gonna follow gradually. If you want a lot of money (you probably do) and become a millionaire along the line (you probably want that) buy Monero while it is cheap as fuck. It's hands down the best possible coin, even Bitcoin is nothing against Monero. We have real privacy and real developers, world adoption imminent. All other altcoins are scams at their best and just outright ridiculously crappy. Needless to say if you invest in other coins you will lose your invested money whereas you will be rich buying Monero. This is the very law of success.

Everyone can become multimillionaire with Monero, I'd argue 1-2 BTC investment is enough to become millionaire through XMR. And the best about it is that you won't have to convert to FIAT because it will be accepted all over the world within 5 years. Yes you read that right, even your mother will use it. No matter where, Monero will be all around the world payable via NFC.

Don't put your faith in JL777's asset scamming through NXT, buy in a real coin a real community the real future instead and be on the safe side.

holy smack I LUV Bryce Weiner, he's a fucking fat moron but he sure as fuck puts the right badass message across. SuperNET is a scam by known scammer jl777... who fucking cares about if explanation is right or not. scam is scam I don't care how Bryce Weiner argues as long as the result is the right one:  jl777 is a scammer and superNET is a NXT insider scam profiting on you guys endless greed. Bryce Weiner thanks again for your fucking efforts you filthy son of a bitch :)

Again, and again, gals you got scammed hard and harder by JL, my condolences. Here's the cold truth and reality about JL777: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=781323.msg8807178#msg8807178




Title: jl777 american or dutch
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 09, 2014, 02:50:57 AM


BOUNTY IS STILL OUT.

 
 we are sure jl777 is either American or Dutch.

 I'll post any findings to this thread.

 Thanks.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: LiQio on October 09, 2014, 03:17:20 AM
^ Never trust a liar and thief.

Joshua if you really had 20 BTC why not convert them and return some of the stolen Nxt?
It would make you sleep so much better!


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Liquid71 on October 09, 2014, 05:08:42 AM
and just a reminder, every single one of you anonymous posters are only a few BTC away from being fully identified.

Candace Jean Morton may now be liable for defamation damages in addition to whatever other problems her association to the NXT project may bring.
10-4 Moneroman88, now go jump off a cliff


Title: Re: jl777 american or dutch
Post by: Liquid71 on October 09, 2014, 05:10:22 AM


BOUNTY IS STILL OUT.

 
 we are sure jl777 is either American or Dutch.

 I'll post any findings to this thread.

 Thanks.
You narrowed it down to 332.9 million possible suspects, good job Sherlock Holmes


Title: Re: jl777 american or dutch
Post by: habraken on October 09, 2014, 05:39:19 AM

 we are sure..

Multiple Personality Disorder confirmed!


Title: Re: jl777 american or dutch
Post by: PL_CoinTrader on October 10, 2014, 07:47:14 PM


BOUNTY IS STILL OUT.

 
 we are sure jl777 is either American or Dutch.

 I'll post any findings to this thread.

 Thanks.

It's amazing how you ignoring EVERYTHING that people claim about you.
CfB hasn't been contacted by your lawyer, what a wonder... this post will be ignored anyway.

You obviously have serious mental issues. Pls go to a doctor.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: benthach on October 10, 2014, 07:47:50 PM
JL777 running ponzi scams and chance he's don't pay a penny in taxes
he can also running many illegal activities.
if you tip information to irs to where his about chance you would collecting the big reward for almost his assets 


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: fumanchu808 on October 11, 2014, 12:08:03 AM
JL777 running ponzi scams and chance he's don't pay a penny in taxes
he can also running many illegal activities.
if you tip information to irs to where his about chance you would collecting the big reward for almost his assets 

It's a bit presumptuous to automatically assume he's not paying his taxes. It's also presumptuous that the IRS would have jurisdiction over him.

What if he's operating out of Panama, Belgium, Malaysia, New Zealand, Belize, or Hong Kong? None of them have capital gains tax meaning he'd have nothing to report anyway. Assuming that someone is dishonest because they choose to protect themselves with anonymity is again, presumptuous.

I remain open to being proved wrong but for now he's the clear king of the digital asset space.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: TheMage on October 11, 2014, 04:40:29 AM
JL777 running ponzi scams and chance he's don't pay a penny in taxes
he can also running many illegal activities.
if you tip information to irs to where his about chance you would collecting the big reward for almost his assets 

It's a bit presumptuous to automatically assume he's not paying his taxes. It's also presumptuous that the IRS would have jurisdiction over him.

What if he's operating out of Panama, Belgium, Malaysia, New Zealand, Belize, or Hong Kong? None of them have capital gains tax meaning he'd have nothing to report anyway. Assuming that someone is dishonest because they choose to protect themselves with anonymity is again, presumptuous.

I remain open to being proved wrong but for now he's the clear king of the digital asset space.

Playing devils advocate, as far as I know only the IRS has tagged it as property as opposed to money. Meaning those other countries could expect income tax instead of capital gains.


But I do agree with you on the rest.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: fumanchu808 on October 11, 2014, 06:31:59 AM
JL777 running ponzi scams and chance he's don't pay a penny in taxes
he can also running many illegal activities.
if you tip information to irs to where his about chance you would collecting the big reward for almost his assets  

It's a bit presumptuous to automatically assume he's not paying his taxes. It's also presumptuous that the IRS would have jurisdiction over him.

What if he's operating out of Panama, Belgium, Malaysia, New Zealand, Belize, or Hong Kong? None of them have capital gains tax meaning he'd have nothing to report anyway. Assuming that someone is dishonest because they choose to protect themselves with anonymity is again, presumptuous.

I remain open to being proved wrong but for now he's the clear king of the digital asset space.

Playing devils advocate, as far as I know only the IRS has tagged it as property as opposed to money. Meaning those other countries could expect income tax instead of capital gains.


But I do agree with you on the rest.

Generally income tax is the result of labor. At the very least it would be seen as revenue generated from a private enterprise (like owning a small business) at which point he would have deductions to balance out his gains.

Generally speaking you only owe taxes when you sell the asset though, otherwise you would be required to destroy the asset in order to pay said taxes (which is in noones best interest). So sure, he could SOMEDAY have a large tax liability but unless he converts to fiat he is essentially still holding the asset.



Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Momimaus on October 11, 2014, 03:21:04 PM

I wouldnt tell you the identity of jl777 if you would offer 1000 BTC.

Give the stolen 1 million NXT back. You are a liar and a thieve.



Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: bluemeanie1 on October 11, 2014, 05:06:24 PM
JL777 running ponzi scams and chance he's don't pay a penny in taxes
he can also running many illegal activities.
if you tip information to irs to where his about chance you would collecting the big reward for almost his assets 

It's a bit presumptuous to automatically assume he's not paying his taxes. It's also presumptuous that the IRS would have jurisdiction over him.

What if he's operating out of Panama, Belgium, Malaysia, New Zealand, Belize, or Hong Kong? None of them have capital gains tax meaning he'd have nothing to report anyway. Assuming that someone is dishonest because they choose to protect themselves with anonymity is again, presumptuous.

I remain open to being proved wrong but for now he's the clear king of the digital asset space.


Edward DeLeon Hickman (http://www.nxtscam.org/2014/10/edward-deleon-hickman.html),

  Do you know the identity of jl777?

  Have you accepted payment from jl777?

  Don't you think that someone who has taken in that much money, and is obsessively anonymous is probably doing something illegal?



Title: Joshua Zeidner is a paranoid schizophrenic? Or just a thief?
Post by: habraken on October 11, 2014, 05:54:40 PM
Joshua Zeidner, aka bluemeanie1 is a thief who stole 1M from the community, probably to pay for his treatment of a mental disease, like paranoid schizophrenia. It's very likely that he ran out of 'crazy pills', which would explain his rants at the moment.


Title: Re: Joshua Zeidner is a paranoid schizophrenic? Or just a thief?
Post by: ShroomsKit_Disgrace on October 11, 2014, 06:42:56 PM
This:

Joshua Zeidner, aka bluemeanie1 is a thief who stole 1M from the community, probably to pay for his treatment of a mental disease, like paranoid schizophrenia. It's very likely that he ran out of 'crazy pills', which would explain his rants at the moment.


Title: Re: Joshua Zeidner is a paranoid schizophrenic? Or just a thief?
Post by: Vega on October 11, 2014, 07:50:32 PM
This:

Joshua Zeidner, aka bluemeanie1 is a thief who stole 1M from the community, probably to pay for his treatment of a mental disease, like paranoid schizophrenia. It's very likely that he ran out of 'crazy pills', which would explain his rants at the moment.

The worst thing is if someone reads only a few of his posts he seems totally sincere and believable, someone who is doing a public service. Only after a few dozen posts can someone who never heard of him begins to suspect that he is a crazy maniac.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: stereotype on October 11, 2014, 09:16:22 PM
@BM

Of that 1M Nxt you received for 'work', how much are you declaring on your tax return? You have "notified the authorities" of this income, right?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: arteleis on October 12, 2014, 02:13:21 AM
EXPOSED!!!  CONTINUED!!!


http://i.imgur.com/87q3JfV.jpg

Arteleis
AKA Ranthanos

Paid Sockpuppet and extortionist for NXT!  Wanted by the FBI

Wants to be friends with Evil Dave

Pals around with Blue Meanie doing Crystal Meth

Wanted in 4 countries for eating children.

Works at 711.

Caught stealing Cadbury Eggs by authorities in Sweden


Starting a new political Party
Radical Fascists of CryptoCurrency Lunatics

Going to buy more beer to support his addicition to Canadian beer.!!!

Yes! Elves love Beer!






Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: TheMage on October 12, 2014, 04:44:45 AM
@BM

Of that 1M Nxt you received for 'work', how much are you declaring on your tax return? You have "notified the authorities" of this income, right?

What he said


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: arteleis on October 12, 2014, 06:48:40 AM
instacash 2: -0 / +5(5)   2014-10-03   0.00000000      instacash is an agent for the notorious NXT crypto scam.
devphp 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-03   0.00000000      devphp is an agent for the notorious crypto scam, NXT.
TaunSew 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-03   0.00000000      TaunSew is mostly an annoying troll collecting information on people for bribes, blackmail and such.
fumanchu808 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-03   0.00000000      Edward DeLeon Hickman is cryptocurrency paid promoter. Im currently pursuing legal action against him. He collaborates closely with the notorious cryptocurrency scam NXT.
nutildah 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-03   0.00000000      nutildah is a 100% anonymous promoter for the notorious cryptocurrency scam, NXT.
Come-from-Beyond 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-04   0.00000000      Sergey Ivancheglo was one of the insiders who initiated the notorious cryptocurrency scam, NXT. He is widely believed to be the person who invented the BCNext character.
mczarnek 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-04   0.00000000      Matthew Czarnek is a Pennsylvania based cryptocurrency promoter involved in the notorious cryptocurrency scheme NXT.
salsacz 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-04   0.00000000      salsacz is a Czech based cryptocurrency promoter involved in the notorious cryptocurrency scheme NXT.
franky1 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-04   0.00000000      Frank is an annoying, disruptive and often inaccurate troll.
cobaltskky 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-04   0.00000000   Reference   Cadence Jean Morton is a transgender spammer/pumper for the NXT cryptocurrency scam. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=809466

she is, at the time of writing, employed full time at Spectrum Health in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

http://www.spectrumhealth.org/
EvilDave 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-04   0.00000000      Evil Dave is an Amsterdam based insider at the notorious cryptocurrency scam NXT.
Damelon 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-04   0.00000000   Reference   Bas Wisselink is an early insider in the notorious cryptocurrency scheme NXT. He shows some indications of collaborations with jl777.

He currently works for Lotus Design Winkel in Amsterdam, Netherlands.

http://www.lotusdesignwinkel.nl/

Bas' LinkedIn profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/baswisselink

he also claims to do fundraising for a religious organization, Nyingma Center Netherlands.
UberNifty 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-04   0.00000000   Reference   A promoter for the Open Transactions vaporware project.
DarkhorseofNxt 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-04   0.00000000      A promoter for the notorious NXT cryptocurrency scheme.
Cassius 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-04   0.00000000      Cassius is a promoter for the notorious cryptocurrency scheme NXT.
farl4web 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-04   0.00000000      Farley is a Dutch insider in the notorious NXT cryptocurrency scheme.

HE is also the administer of NXTFORUM.ORG. He presided over this publication while several serious thefts transpired.
nutildah 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-04   0.00000000   Reference   Nutildah falsely accused me of running a sock puppet account with no evidence.
SZZT 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-04   0.00000000      claimed I stole BTC with no proof.
instacash 2: -0 / +5(5)   2014-10-04   0.00000000      instacash accused me of stealing 70 BTC with no evidence.

I've never had any business dealing with this anonymous character.
EvilDave 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-04   0.00000000   Reference   Evil Dave continually harasses me on this forum, endlessly reiterating on some accusation that I committed a crime. He of course has zero evidence and no formal claims have ever been regarding this.

I have never had any business dealings with Evil Dave.

an image of Evil Dave: http://i.imgur.com/FYkyfSA.jpg
LiQio 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-04   0.00000000      claims I stole money with no proof or even a formal accusation.

I have never done business with this person.

LiQio is a promoter for the notorious cryptocurrency scheme NXT.
SZZT 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-04   0.00000000      has reiterated an accusation towards me over 5 times with no proof, and no formal corresponding accusation.

I have never done business with this person.
Katala 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-04   0.00000000      Katala is a fairly inactive account whose primary purpose is attacking me and diverting attention away from the information I post re. NXT.
crunck 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-05   0.00000000      crunk is a paid- promotion account for the notorious cryptocurrency scheme NXT. NXT has been shown to be marketing bitcointalk.org accounts, this is likely to be one of them.
robinwilliams 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-05   0.00000000      this account claimed I stole money with no evidence.

I have never done business with this person.

It's presumed this is one of the accounts being sold in the NXT Digital Goods Store.
jl777 0: -0 / +1(1)   2014-10-05   5,000.00000000   Reference   WARNING REGARDING JL777.

JL777 IS A DANGEROUS CRIMINAL UNDER INVESTIGATION.

I AM CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR INFORMATION REGARDING THE REAL WORLD IDENTITY OF JL777.

if you have any information please contact me though Bitcointalk.org PM or josh.josh421@gmail.com

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=806495.0
illodin 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-05   0.00000000   Reference   claims I took money from some party.

I've never done business with this person.
SZZT 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-05   0.00000000      continues to reiterate an unsubstantiated accusation making threads concerning the NXT scam unreadable.
EvilDave 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-05   0.00000000   Reference   manipulates the quote feature to make it appear as though I am saying things I do not.
ButtcoinEXpress 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-05   0.00000000   Reference   another suspected NXT account
BCNext 0: -0 / +1(1)   2014-10-05   0.00000000      It has never been shown that this login is a real person.

Since the beginning of the NXT project, it was claimed that BCNext approached Sergey Ivancheglo aka 'Come-From-Beyond' to write the project and then BCNext dissappeared supposedly.

David aka 'Uniqueorn' form Norway also claims to have spoken to BCNext.

The technical claims that come from this account are notably fraudulent as is the entire NXT project.

If you have any information regarding NXT or the identity of BCNext, please contact me in PM or josh.josh421@gmail.com
Come-from-Beyond 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-05   0.00000000   Reference   this account appeared to primary initiator of the NXT cryptocurrency scheme. see refence link for the NXT 'IPO' thread.
FrictionlessCoin -4: -1 / +0(0)   2014-10-05   0.00000000      This person is yet another person who attempted to criticize NXT and the negative comments on this page are mostly NXT promoters.
ElitistCA 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-06   0.00000000      accused me of theft with no evidence.

presumed to be a anon NXT promoter account.
Nxtblg 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-06   0.00000000      a NXT scam promo account.
devphp 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-06   0.00000000      this person has posted over 10 times the same message accusing me of theft.

I have never done business with this person.
devphp 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-07   0.00000000      it appears that the entire purpose of this account is to write accusations that I stole something to every thread I create. It suspected this is a NXT paid-for account.
fumanchu808 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-07   0.00000000   Reference   Edward DeLeon Hickman, aka Edward Hickman of Honolulu, HI is one of the counfounders of a company called Pacific Blockchain. You can read more about Edward Hickman here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=808029.0;all
Momimaus 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-08   0.00000000   Reference   claims I stole money with no proof.

I have never done business with this person, nor do I know who they are- I suspect this is a promotion account for the NXT project.
digitalindustry -6: -1 / +0(0)   2014-10-08   0.00000000      this poster is being attacked by instacash because he criticized NXT
DogeMajestic 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-08   0.00000000      attempted slander claiming I stole money.

I have no idea who this person is and have never conducted business with them.

I suspect this is a bought NXT account.

I am currently researching the general issue of NXT, you can follow my postings and work here on bitcointalk.org
DogeMajestic 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-08   0.00000000      claimed I murdered someone.
Come-from-Above 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-08   0.00000000   Reference   actually claimed I committed murder.
ShroomsKit_Disgrace 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-08   0.00000000      claims I stole money without proof.

I've never done business with this person.

appears to represent the anonymous NXT community.
nutildah 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-08   0.00000000   Reference   a thread about nutildah https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=816663.0
SZZT 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-08   0.00000000   Reference   a thread about SZZT

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=816663.0
devphp 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-08   0.00000000   Reference   a bit of a background on devphp:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=816663.msg9134440#msg9134440
rheita 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-08   0.00000000      a suspected paid for NXT account.
rheita 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-08   0.00000000   Reference   claims here that they are a regular bitcointalk.org user, but created a new account to hide their identity.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=816663.msg9134467#msg9134467
Johnsonhampshireretractor 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-08   0.00000000   Reference   claims I 'hurt his company severely', presumably that would be either Cointelegraph or Pacific Blockchain as those are the only companies I'm commenting on currently.

Doesn't state how the companies were damaged and I have not heard anything from either Cointelegraph or Pacific Blockchain.
TaunSew 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-08   0.00000000   Reference   background information on TaunSew
mczarnek 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-09   0.00000000      I had to call Matthew's father, Robert a few days ago. Robert appeared not to have any knowledge of Matthew's activities in the NXT project, or at least a misunderstanding of them.
fumanchu808 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-09   0.00000000      constantly posts off topic content to deflect my questions regarding jl777
ebliever 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-09   0.00000000   Reference   claims I stole something with no evidence.

I've never done business with this person.

I suspect this is a promotion account for NXT.
Stealthcoin 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-09   0.00000000      claiming I 'front' for Monero.

I have never owned Monero cryptocurrency. I have no significant relationship to anyone in the Monero project and I do not promote Monero in any way.

I have never done business with this person.
SZZT 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-09   0.00000000      SZZT is a greek internet troll paid to promote NXT.
EvilDave 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-10   0.00000000      EvilDave is Dave Pearce, residing in Amsterdam at the time of writing. Known to be an Irish citizen.
fumanchu808 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-11   0.00000000   Reference   Edward DeLeon Hickman's NXTSCAM.ORG profile
LiQio 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-11   0.00000000   Reference   LiQuo's NXTSCAM.ORG profile.
nutildah 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-11   0.00000000   Reference   nutildah's NXTSCAM.ORG profile.
arteleis 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-11   0.00000000   Reference   clearly another NXT paid promotion/harassment account
cobaltskky 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-11   0.00000000   Reference   Cadence Jean Morton's NXTSCAM.ORG profile.
Damelon 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-11   0.00000000   Reference   Damelon's NXTSCAM.ORG profile
TheMage 0: -0 / +0(0)   2014-10-12   0.00000000   Reference   a suspected NXT promo account.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=103159


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: tanaka on October 12, 2014, 07:45:25 AM
What did JL777 do?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: arteleis on October 12, 2014, 07:48:21 AM
What did JL777 do?

Sold shares on a decentralized market place.  A few times.  A bunch of em.  In NXT.  scandalous


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: EvilDave on October 12, 2014, 12:39:39 PM
Hi, Josh. I replied to your tweet but got no reply back (https://twitter.com/comefrombeyond/status/517233460159983616). I'm not sure if you were kidding or serious, could you provide a proof that you did contact authorities (scanned document, phone number and name of the police officer). Also, could you send me the contact information of your lawyer (to come-from-beyond@mail.ru)? I need to make sure that you do have one.

Please, note that if you refuse to do as I asked, you will clearly show that you lie and actually didn't contact the authorities nor had an intention to do so. By the way, you have no choice. You were always claiming that I was BCNext (the creator of Nxt), you can't just ignore my request, pretending that you don't want to waste your time on me. :)

3 days should be enough, in 3 days I'll make another post to tell the others if you tried to reach me.


PS: Could someone quote my post in case if he tries to make excuses that he put me on ignore list or didn't notice this post?

Joshua Zeidner aka Bluemeanie didn't send me his lawyer contact info even after I reminded him about that several times. I think actually BM didn't contact authorities and doesn't have a lawyer. I suggest to leave this poor guy alone, he obviously has serious problems with socialization and can't be responsible for his deeds. The info I got about his life shows that he doesn't have family nor friends and our cryptocommunity is the only "friends" he has. You can imagine how terrible his life is...


Yep, looks like BM is lying on his claims to contact the authorities and/or get lawyered up. Surprise !


And, people in glass houses:
@BM
Of that 1M Nxt you received for 'work', how much are you declaring on your tax return? You have "notified the authorities" of this income, right?

BM obviously needs help......talk to your brother, sunshine. Or a therapist, or the cops.....just sort yourself out.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: adaseb on October 12, 2014, 05:35:57 PM
Can somebody sum up what is exactly is going on here in a few points. Very difficult to follow going from the first page to the current.

Who is the scammer exactly? The original poster or the JL777 guy?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: arteleis on October 12, 2014, 05:48:46 PM
What did JL777 do?

Sold shares on a decentralized market place.  A few times.  A bunch of em.  In NXT.  scandalous

  Well judging by the deleted threads in blue meanies hit list.. I'm going to assume that coin telegraph has its lawyers on the case... don't too often see bitcoin talk remove threads...  oh the plot thickens.

     Note to self.  Slandering journals..  bad idea.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: arteleis on October 12, 2014, 06:01:33 PM
Can somebody sum up what is exactly is going on here in a few points. Very difficult to follow going from the first page to the current.

Who is the scammer exactly? The original poster or the JL777 guy?

  Well.  Mr meanie says everyone is trying to kill him.  But won't post any of these threats..  Instead makes his own threats, exposes private information of users, 😕😣 slanders them, contacts their employers, threatens legal action with no proof, makes fun of sexual orientation, threatens to turn people into tax authorities, slanders businesses as well as posts personal addresses, videos and anything else he can dig up on anyone who posts questions in his thread. So careful.  Better not post here or he might expose you!

  As far as j777 goes.  He suspects him of running a Ponzi scheme.  Which is of course impossible in a decentralized marketplace. Seeing as though it's not regulated and all.. which is also peculiar Cuz apparently Mr meanie took 1 million nxt as payment for j777 to do some programming that was never complete.

  But Mr.  Meanie also aims to end decentralized  trading.  To end aliases.  Crypto ideals.  Well seems he would turn in satoshi if he disagreed with him.

  Me.  I'm just waiting for my payment from the nxt syndicate so I can continue to extort and harass him.  Cuz he said I'm paid harasser. . Why? Because I told him to stop with the personal attacks and maybe use his coding skills instead of his psycho skills.

  I'm still waiting for my big fat nxt payment like he received...  i would a hoped a paid extortionist would recieve the nxt instead of him recieving the nxt for doing nothing.

  .


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: jonald_fyookball on October 12, 2014, 06:59:14 PM
Can somebody sum up what is exactly is going on here in a few points. Very difficult to follow going from the first page to the current.

Who is the scammer exactly? The original poster or the JL777 guy?

  Well.  Mr meanie says everyone is trying to kill him.  But won't post any of these threats..  Instead makes his own threats, exposes private information of users, 😕😣 slanders them, contacts their employers, threatens legal action with no proof, makes fun of sexual orientation, threatens to turn people into tax authorities, slanders businesses as well as posts personal addresses, videos and anything else he can dig up on anyone who posts questions in his thread. So careful.  Better not post here or he might expose you!

  As far as j777 goes.  He suspects him of running a Ponzi scheme.  Which is of course impossible in a decentralized marketplace. Seeing as though it's not regulated and all.. which is also peculiar Cuz apparently Mr meanie took 1 million nxt as payment for j777 to do some programming that was never complete.

  But Mr.  Meanie also aims to end decentralized  trading.  To end aliases.  Crypto ideals.  Well seems he would turn in satoshi if he disagreed with him.

  Me.  I'm just waiting for my payment from the nxt syndicate so I can continue to extort and harass him.  Cuz he said I'm paid harasser. . Why? Because I told him to stop with the personal attacks and maybe use his coding skills instead of his psycho skills.

  I'm still waiting for my big fat nxt payment like he received...  i would a hoped a paid extortionist would recieve the nxt instead of him recieving the nxt for doing nothing.

  .

I guess if he wanted people to know what kind of person he really is, he did a good job.

 :-\

its never too late to see the folly of one's ways and try to be a better person.
Of course, that would mean actually returning the stolen NXT.



Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: habraken on October 12, 2014, 07:58:44 PM
..threatens to turn people into tax authorities
He turned me into a newt!
Well, I got better.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: rugrats on October 14, 2014, 08:54:38 PM
  Well seems he would turn in satoshi if he disagreed with him.

I nearly swallowed my cigarette reading that.
Most hilarious comment of the year thus far.
Take a bow, fella.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: arteleis on October 14, 2014, 09:54:46 PM
  Well seems he would turn in satoshi if he disagreed with him.

I nearly swallowed my cigarette reading that.
Most hilarious comment of the year thus far.
Take a bow, fella.

The Dark Forest Elf has succeeded in making laughter in light of an excessively poor situation.

I will accept this offer to bow.

*bows*



Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: morningtime on January 02, 2015, 11:28:52 AM

  As far as j777 goes.  He suspects him of running a Ponzi scheme.  Which is of course impossible in a decentralized marketplace.


Running a Ponzi scheme on decentralized market places is the very definition of an altcoin scam. It's done by hyping the marketplace, then dumping your premine/stolen/minted coins.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Cassius on January 02, 2015, 11:51:52 AM

  As far as j777 goes.  He suspects him of running a Ponzi scheme.  Which is of course impossible in a decentralized marketplace.


Running a Ponzi scheme on decentralized market places is the very definition of an altcoin scam. It's done by hyping the marketplace, then dumping your premine/stolen/minted coins.

Um, yeah, thanks for that.

What say we let this thread die, now?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Daedelus on January 02, 2015, 01:19:41 PM
Nxt has a new major release in a week. This won't be the first dead thread that is dug up... that's the pattern we have seen with the last 3 major releases...  ::)


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: cassius69 on January 03, 2015, 03:04:14 PM

  As far as j777 goes.  He suspects him of running a Ponzi scheme.  Which is of course impossible in a decentralized marketplace.


Running a Ponzi scheme on decentralized market places is the very definition of an altcoin scam. It's done by hyping the marketplace, then dumping your premine/stolen/minted coins.

Um, yeah, thanks for that.

What say we let this thread die, now?


i bet you'd like that


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Cassius on January 03, 2015, 03:09:38 PM
Well, clearly. Otherwise I wouldn't have said it. This thread was ridiculous from the start. Digging it up now, months after the issues in question, when the troll who started it has been shown for what he is and jl777's work has cemented his reputation...


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: jonald_fyookball on January 03, 2015, 03:10:45 PM
Well, clearly. Otherwise I wouldn't have said it. This thread was ridiculous from the start. Digging it up now, months after the issues in question, when the troll who started it has been shown for what he is and jl777's work has cemented his reputation...

troll and thief.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: legendster on January 10, 2015, 02:32:27 PM
Can somebody sum up what is exactly is going on here in a few points. Very difficult to follow going from the first page to the current.

Who is the scammer exactly? The original poster or the JL777 guy?

I havent been involved with the NXT community in anyway, but being involved with BTC since 2012 and on the forum since 2013 does let know whats going on in general inside the crypto world.

Yes it is true that 1000000 NXT were stolen, and based on the few reports I have read on their forum, yes some users did complain about loosing their money randomly, you will have to sit & sift through all the posts because there isnt any particular single post and in almost all cases there was a ton response from the dev team. With that said, I must admit that YES there are some problems going on with the NXT people.

BUT if the issue comes to internet harassment, life threats and violence against someone, Meanie (ironical name for a victim) has yet to provide any sort of proof that these things actually happened. Off course if this DID happen the people that made such threats and master minded a million dollar ponzi scheme must be smart enough to cover their trails well enough.

But if you follow Meanie's threads and his general personality, he would seem to represent someone who is paranoid and socially isolated. If there was much weight in Meanie's accusations I would seriously expect at least a hundred users like him but I only see a handful few who seem to have a swayed opinion.

Off course if meanie really were the victim here, it would be really easy to get away with it because of his frugal personality.

I know none of these guys and I hope they seriously get some counseling, NXT guys clearly need a newer strategy to improve their image and credibility and meanie, well he needs to stop being mean to any one and everyone who is associated with NXT.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: legendster on January 10, 2015, 02:34:42 PM
Well, clearly. Otherwise I wouldn't have said it. This thread was ridiculous from the start. Digging it up now, months after the issues in question, when the troll who started it has been shown for what he is and jl777's work has cemented his reputation...

Dont try to bury this, it'll only discredit the people involved with NXT.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: legendster on January 10, 2015, 02:36:48 PM
...

say.. are you single ?


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Cassius on January 10, 2015, 02:58:02 PM
Well, clearly. Otherwise I wouldn't have said it. This thread was ridiculous from the start. Digging it up now, months after the issues in question, when the troll who started it has been shown for what he is and jl777's work has cemented his reputation...

Dont try to bury this, it'll only discredit the people involved with NXT.

There's nothing to bury. It's all been publicly aired in the forums for the last several months. jl777's work is well known. So are bluemeanie's. He's since been banned from BTT for being so unpleasant and underhand - and that's saying something here.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: legendster on January 10, 2015, 03:07:23 PM
Well, clearly. Otherwise I wouldn't have said it. This thread was ridiculous from the start. Digging it up now, months after the issues in question, when the troll who started it has been shown for what he is and jl777's work has cemented his reputation...

Dont try to bury this, it'll only discredit the people involved with NXT.

There's nothing to bury. It's all been publicly aired in the forums for the last several months. jl777's work is well known. So are bluemeanie's. He's since been banned from BTT for being so unpleasant and underhand - and that's saying something here.

Thats good to know, but dont come back at a comment with 'can we let this thread die'. Just a friendly advice.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: Cassius on January 10, 2015, 03:29:55 PM
Well, clearly. Otherwise I wouldn't have said it. This thread was ridiculous from the start. Digging it up now, months after the issues in question, when the troll who started it has been shown for what he is and jl777's work has cemented his reputation...

Dont try to bury this, it'll only discredit the people involved with NXT.

There's nothing to bury. It's all been publicly aired in the forums for the last several months. jl777's work is well known. So are bluemeanie's. He's since been banned from BTT for being so unpleasant and underhand - and that's saying something here.

Thats good to know, but dont come back at a comment with 'can we let this thread die'. Just a friendly advice.

Friendly advice not required. Someone digs up a thread after months looking for trouble, you can be sure they're not trying to do you any favours.


Title: Re: OFFER OF UP TO 20 BTC FOR INFO ON JL777
Post by: legendster on January 10, 2015, 04:21:03 PM
Friendly advice not required. Someone digs up a thread after months looking for trouble, you can be sure they're not trying to do you any favours.

Well its a free forum. As long as its not a locked topic it'll be viewed and commented upon. The more you try to bury something the more it'll be dug out. I am not against you guys nor associated with this lunatic, so here's another friendly advice, dont make me your Meanie part 2, I am a nice guy :)

Leave it at that.