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Bitcoin => Mining speculation => Topic started by: DigitalPirateman on October 02, 2014, 02:32:42 PM



Title: whats the cut off to business miners and home miners
Post by: DigitalPirateman on October 02, 2014, 02:32:42 PM
I can't decide whats the best cut off to home miners and business some say 10TH is but i think its more like 25TH with this new difficulty we are getting more miners soon. whats the cut off between the average starter to the more advance rigs.


Title: Re: whats the cut off to business miners and home miners
Post by: ChuckBuck on October 02, 2014, 03:29:48 PM
I can't decide whats the best cut off to home miners and business some say 10TH is but i think its more like 25TH with this new difficulty we are getting more miners soon. whats the cut off between the average starter to the more advance rigs.

The cut off isn't in TH/s it's in kW/H and how many kW a house can support.

The electricians in this forum could probably get into specifics for you, but that's the right question you should be asking.  "How many amps and how many kW can my circuit support?"  Businesses, warehouses, and datacenters obviously have higher power threshold, so you can think more in tens of TH/s, but for home it's strictly how much your circuit can handle.


Title: Re: whats the cut off to business miners and home miners
Post by: DigitalPirateman on October 02, 2014, 04:21:17 PM

The cut off isn't in TH/s it's in kW/H and how many kW a house can support.

The electricians in this forum could probably get into specifics for you, but that's the right question you should be asking.  "How many amps and how many kW can my circuit support?"  Businesses, warehouses, and datacenters obviously have higher power threshold, so you can think more in tens of TH/s, but for home it's strictly how much your circuit can handle.

we are working on getting more Kw more breakers for our location. we were aware of the circuit support we just don't know how to get it yet.


Title: Re: whats the cut off to business miners and home miners
Post by: philipma1957 on October 03, 2014, 03:00:48 AM

The cut off isn't in TH/s it's in kW/H and how many kW a house can support.

The electricians in this forum could probably get into specifics for you, but that's the right question you should be asking.  "How many amps and how many kW can my circuit support?"  Businesses, warehouses, and datacenters obviously have higher power threshold, so you can think more in tens of TH/s, but for home it's strictly how much your circuit can handle.

we are working on getting more Kw more breakers for our location. we were aware of the circuit support we just don't know how to get it yet.

a usa home may have 200 AMP 120 volt that is 24000 watts

a usa home may have 100 AMP 120 volt that is 12000 watts

I have 150 amp 120 volt that is 18000 watts

lets say ½ for the rest of the home  

so 200 amp = 12000 watts

150 amp = 9000 watts

100 amp = 6000 watts

75 percent for your safety margin of 24/7/365 run time

means

200 amp = 9000 watts for mining

150 amp = 6750 watts for mining

100 amp = 4500 watts for mining

at .7 watts  maybe 12 th for a 200 amp home

at .7 watts maybe  9th

 at .7 watts maybe  6th

When gpu's were king my 150amp home safely ran 6200 watts doing 23 gpus non stop for 7 months

Basically this is why thread after thread says home mining is dead. not enough watts in a home.

lets says I have 2 cent power and I burn max power  which lets me run 9th
the calcs below assume 2 cent power and free gear  if you use 2 cent power and the cheapest gear there is the asic miner long tube .    you would need 9btc to buy 9th   and you would earn a little bit of money maybe 3-4 coins.  so to mine at home you need 2 cent power  with asic miner long tubes in house by oct 15th you need coins to stabilize at  375 usd and diff to stay at 10 percent or less.
almost no home miner can do this.

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Title: Re: whats the cut off to business miners and home miners
Post by: Prelude on October 03, 2014, 06:53:43 PM
I didn't bother reading your whole post, but if you're living in the US you don't get 120v to your house you get 240V across 2 120v phases.

100A = 24000w
150A = 36000w
200A = 48000w

You obviously need to leave headroom, plus remove 20% for continuous load.

You could have doubled your output if you had wired your rigs to use 240v instead of 120v.


Title: Re: whats the cut off to business miners and home miners
Post by: DigitalPirateman on October 04, 2014, 01:18:50 AM
Couldnt you add more breakers? We wanted two new breakers.


Title: Re: whats the cut off to business miners and home miners
Post by: xstr8guy on October 04, 2014, 01:46:31 AM
Couldnt you add more breakers? We wanted two new breakers.

Of course you can add more breakers. But that is just an additional expense that makes your bad investment into a god-awful investment.

If you don't already have existing miners in your home and plan to buy new gear, you will lose money, guaranteed, if you don't have the cheapest power on the planet. So why would anyone add new circuits now?


Title: Re: whats the cut off to business miners and home miners
Post by: DigitalPirateman on October 04, 2014, 05:13:15 AM
Well prior to the machines we have a studio that can be set up for developing animation and video games.In fact we are designing a game for our coin and bitcoin


Title: Re: whats the cut off to business miners and home miners
Post by: xstr8guy on October 04, 2014, 07:23:12 AM
Well poo to the machines we have a studio that can be set up for developing animation and video games.In fact we are designing a game for our coin and bitcoin

Care to translate that into English? What's that have to do with your original question... or anything else you brought up in this thread?