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Title: [ANN][BRK] Breakout Coin | Sale June 13 2016 | Multicurrencies | Smart Contracts
Post by: BreakoutCoin on October 03, 2014, 02:45:03 AM
Please go to the Breakout Chain Thread Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1509819.msg15185942#msg15185942)

Brief Backstory

The thread below is the thread for a coin called "Brocoin" commissioned by "Breakout Coin", a coin company. Brocoin was never implemented, due to lack of funds. The original developer , Jay Berg,  was a hired consultant, and we were not able to keep him full-time. Jay moved on to a new exciting project,  Protoblock.com.

The Breakout Coin project hired a new developer, James Stroud, who completed a ground breaking coin, called "Breakout Chain", with help from, and features inspired by Jay's "Bergstake". Breakout Chain not only has a innovative staking mechanism, but is also a Proof-of-Work chain with many novel existing and planned features. Breakout Chain's features are designed to complement Breakout Coin's business model of seeding mass adoption by providing promotional funds to promising businesses.

You can read more at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1509819.msg15185942#msg15185942, and the Breakout Coin website (http://www.breakoutcoin.com).





Breakout Coin Genesis Sale 1st Phase has Ended



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BUY BRO
https://www.breakoutcoin.com/
 (https://www.breakoutcoin.com/)



Please Visit Our BRO Website For More Information
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com
 (http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com)


Test Drive Our Gaming Platforms
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/breakout-gaming-preview/
 (http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/breakout-gaming-preview/)

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Revolutionizing Cryptocurrency and Online Gaming

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Breakout Coin (BRO) puts the power in usersí hands, enabling ìperson-to-personî transactions without middlemen such as banks or credit cards. There is no five day processing wait, your account canít be frozen, and the digital coins can be sent virtually instantly with zero or low fees to Argentina, China, or wherever you want. Sending a BRO is simple and just like sending an email. BRO is Proof-of-Bergstake (PoB). PoB is a new and innovative solution to eliminate energy waste prevalent with current PoW mining.

Proof-of-Bergstake
There will be a one-to-one ratio of Bergstake for all ìvirginî coins. This will mark the first time a real distributed consensus has been reached via Proof-of-Stake, thanks to Bergstake.

ìPerpetual Virtual Mining Rigî
The more Bergstake you possess, the better your chances of signing the block and earning the block reward. Odds of earning the block reward for each block is tied to the proportion of Bergstake.
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Algorithm: Proof-of-Bergstake
Total Supply ~ 19.5M BRO
Block Time Target: 3 minutes
PoB Block Reward: 1 million coins annually ~5.71 BRO block reward




Proof-of-Bergstake to Solve Known Problems
Bergstake represents the right to sign blocks in cryptocurrency blockchains. For keeping the network safe, block signers receive reward, which can be transaction fees and/or new coins. Bergstake is different from classic coin-stake ñ it lasts forever and itís not transferable. The concept is a modified ìProof-of-Skillî, first described in the Satoshi Fantasy whitepaper by Jay Berg. While each coin is crafted, whether itís in the pre-mine giveaway or Proof-of-Work stage, the holder of those new coins automatically receives an equivalent amount of Bergstake. Even if the new coins are transferred away, the Bergstake remains. All Bergstake are recorded in the blockchain and owners maintain their private keys.

Proof-of-Bergstake is better understood as an alternative distributed consensus mechanism to the Bitcoin Proof-of-Work mining process. Bergstake solves known issues found in Proof-of-Stake (PoS) blockchains. Bergstake blockchains also have knowledge of alternative forks. This enables someone to present a ìProof-of-Double-Miningî which will destroy the Bergstake as well as its potential block reward. The threat of losing Bergstake and recent virgin coins is incentive to mine only the ìrealî blockchain. This core feature neutralizes the ìnothing-at-stakeî weakness found in PoS blockchains.

The algorithm that selects the next block-signer can be gamed in other PoS blockchains. The strategy is known as ìstake-grindingî or ìcostless simulationî, and it entails a nefarious type of ìminingî of block data intended just to generate a hash, which allows the signing of the next block. Since Bergstake is recognized in advance, a block-signer assignment algorithm that moderates grinding can be employed. A technique used frequently involves the use of the hash of two prior signers in order to select another signer; another technique entails the selection of N signers based on a pseudo-random number and a current signer.


Breakout Gaming wants to make online gaming easy for everybody by helping them enjoy the most thrilling games. People all over the world in regions without proper banking systems want to play games online: We let them do that. Breakout Gaming is the first gaming platform to feature Breakout Coin (BRO), which is used to buy chips and play the platformís amazing games.

Bonner Bellew and Joshua Wells, Creative Directors of Soda & Lime, created the incredible style of Breakout Gaming. The company prides itself on strategic client decisionsófocusing on aesthetics and user-friendly design while creating integrated campaigns for top entertainment companies including Sony, Disney, Universal, Warner Bros, HBO, Fox, and more. Soda & Lime will also be leading the marketing campaign that will bring Breakout Gaming mainstream.


BREAKOUT EXCHANGE
Breakout Exchange will be available to players outside of the United States and Canada, initially allowing trading of cryptocurrency pairs BTC/BRO and LTC/BRO. Breakout Coin (BRO) will have itís start here, but will quickly be adopted into many other familiar crypto exchanges.

To allow more players to use BRO, currencies beyond Bitcoin and Litecoin, such as Dogecoin and Peercoin, will be added. By pairing BRO with new cryptocurrencies, the existing Breakout Gaming playerbase experiences enhanced liquidity. The Breakout Exchange can constantly expand access for both present and prospective users.

CASHIER
The Cashier will function exactly like any of the worldís other casino cashiers. In Las Vegas, casinos will only accept U.S. dollars in exchange for the exclusive chip used to play their games. At Breakout Gaming, players will be able to use BRO or ìfiatî currency to buy exclusive BRO denominated chips, bringing that familiar mindset and practice to the Breakout Gaming platform.

GLOBAL ACCESS: PRO FANTASY SPORTS
Ready to test your skills in exciting daily fantasy sports competitions? Then youíve come to the right place. Breakout Gaming is the site that gives sports enthusiasts the opportunity to win big on the following daily fantasy sports; NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, GOLF and NASCAR. Watch for exciting new Fantasy games in the future, such as UFC and eXtreme Sports.

Daily fantasy sports games are open to players of all skill levels. You can compete against your friends and other sports fans. We offer competitive, exciting games all season long. Daily fantasy sports are new to some, but once you start playing, youíll never go back to traditional fantasy sports competitions.

Breakout Gaming stands out ahead of other daily fantasy sports websites because our players can compete without having a bank account. Instead, players simply use BRO. Fantasy sports is a game of skill and anyone, anywhere in the world can play, with more than 33 million people in the United States alone. Get in on the action today and start competing for big prizes daily on your favorite professional sports.

INNOVATIVE GAME: FANTASY CRYPTO
Fantasy Crypto pits crypto enthusiasts against the market, and each other, in real-time! †In a brand new game of skill, and a dash of luck, players pick the cryptocurrencies they believe will make the biggest move. Selecting cryptocurrencies is much like picking players in teams, limited by salary caps. Choose your coin lineup, selecting five Offense (up) and five Defense (down) from five categories based on key features. The games may be daily, weekly, 4-weeks, or longer. Your final score is the sum of your Teamís Playersí points at the end of the game period.

The cryptocurrency that changed the most in its group and in your anticipated direction earns five points; the second most earns three points, and the third earns two points. You will have picked three cryptos up and three down in each of five groups. †A perfect score would be (5+3+2) x 2 * 5 = 100 points. The lowest number of points would be zero. The game prize will †be shared across the Top 10 gamers.

The monitored cryptocurrency stats are equivalent to player stats in Fantasy Sports. To assure timeliness and transparency, data will be updated every 5 minutes and consistent with most coinmarketcap.com conventions.

Many new Crypto Games are in the pipeline for Breakout Gaming. The objective is not just to be fun and rewarding to play, but to gain and share insights within the Crypto Community. What are the features of coins that make them succeed or fail, e.g., premine percent, security, theme, privacy, etc.? How exactly do you predict a winner or a loser? What are the market conditions that favor or hurt various coins? Are there algorithms that enable one to pick direction and duration of price moves? We want vibrant discussions and discoveries about cryptocoins, as well as fun and games!

THE eSPORTS REVOLUTION: FANTASY eSPORTS
Competitive video gaming, also known as electronic sports (eSports), is exploding and major sponsors such as Intel, Coca Cola and American Express are already investing heavily in the next major global phenomenon. Over ten thousand people packed Seattleís Key Arena to watch teams duke it out for a chance at a $10 million prize pool this July at Valveís The International 2014, and the winners earned over half a million dollars individually after taxes and team cuts; enough for the teamís captain to retire at the age of 24.

Breakout Gaming will be entering the eSports market by sponsoring and hosting major tournaments. Our first tournament will be attended by some of the most prestigious names in professional video gaming. With our cryptocurrency and investment into eSports, we hope to attain the biggest audience possible. Our new and exciting fantasy eSports platform will tap into this red-hot market in the United States.

Our fantasy eSports section will launch with the iconic multiplayer titles League of Legends (LoL) and Dota 2, the two most played multiplayer online battle arena (MOBA) games.

If youíve ever played fantasy sports, youíll find fantasy eSports works the same way. Youíre given the opportunity to construct a fantasy team by choosing different players from different (or the same) teams to create your roster, and points are allocated depending on your rostersí performance, just like in sports.

OLD-SCHOOL COOL: TRADITIONAL POKER AND CASINO GAMES
Breakout Gaming has a massive list of poker and casino games to offer players. By using creative design and a user-friendly interface, bringing these highly-popular games to a modern platform will shake the online gaming industry. Pair that with cryptocurrency, and youíve got the gaming revolution on your hands.


Initial Coin Sale: Up to 10 million Genesis Breakout Coins with Bergstake priced from 1000 to 6600 BRO per BTC
Breakout Coinís (BRO) Initial Coin Sale is a unique chance for crypto enthusiasts and gamers all over the world to seize the opportunity to get in on the ground floor.


What will the Sale funds be used for?
Continuing Coin Development
To maintain leadership among cryptocoins, new coin features will be developed continuously. Here are some examples of planned developments:
  • Marketing for BRO and Breakout Gaming
  • Stealth Address Wallet
  • Custom Bergstake Pools
  • Continued Bergstake Development
  • Ongoing Security Maintenance of the Coin
  • Additional Coin Development Staff
  • Bounty Program Development Projects
.

Distribution of BRO at launch
  • 12.8% - 2.5 million ñ Developers, Marketing, Pros, Bounties, Ops
  • 51.2% - 10 million ñ Initial Coin Sale, Genesis block + Bergstake
  • 35.8% 7 million ñ Giveaways - 2 year distribution schedule


Giveaways Distribution Schedule
In order to facilitate widespread adoption, 7 million BRO will be given away for free through incentive programs in order to help market and support the coin. There will be free tournaments, referral bonuses, sign-up bonuses, plus many more ways to snag your free coins. The distribution schedule will be as follows:

As an incentive, early buyers will be rewarded with bonus BRO on a sliding scale.

The incentive model will be as follows:

Approx. Time(UTC)
† †Bitcoin Block † †
† †BRO per BTC † †
10/21@14:00
326308
6600
10/29@07:00
327468
6000
11/4@07:00
328476
5500
11/6@07:00
328780
5000
11/8@07:00
329118
4500
11/10@07:00
329456
4000
11/12@07:00
329794
3500
11/14@07:00
330132
3000

**LAST DAY BONUS of 5000 BRO per BTC**

At start of sale, buyers will receive 6600 Breakout Coins per Bitcoin. At bitcoin block number 327468, which is expected to be around 10/29/2014 7:00:00 the buyer will receive 6000 BRO per Bitcoin. Approximately 7 days later, at bitcoin block number 328780, the amount will be 5500 BRO per bitcoin.

From them on, every 338 Bitcoin Blocks, or approximately every 48 hours, the amount per Bitcoin will drop by 500. Finally, starting at block number 329918, buyers will receive 3000 BRO per Bitcoin, this will last until the end of the sale.

Through the ICO, you also get Bergstake
BRO coins acquired through the ICO will also come with special stake for future mining awards: Bergstake. Since these coins will be sent from the genesis block, the ICO is the one opportunity that the world has to ìbuyî BRO that is coupled with Bergstake.


http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/Header_7_WorldsTopTalent.jpg
Breakout Coin Genesis Sale

Price:
1 bitcoin buys 5,000 BRO

sale ends in

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BUY BRO
https://www.breakoutcoin.com/
 (https://www.breakoutcoin.com/)


Please Visit Our BRO Website For More Information
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com
 (http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com)


Test Drive Our Gaming Platforms
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/breakout-gaming-preview/ (http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/breakout-gaming-preview/)
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/BreakoutCoinHeader.png


Disclaimer: Breakout Coin and Breakout Gaming are two separate services/entities. †Breakout Coin is offering BRO coins for btc. By participating in this "coin sale," you are not purchasing interest in Breakout Gaming. †You are solely participating in the "coin sale" of a crypto coin that happens to have a gaming company that supports the BRO coin by having their chips denominated in the BRO crypto coin.

As specified in the first paragraph in the Terms and Conditions:

WARNING: †Do not purchase BRO if you are not an expert in crypto tokens or currency and blockchain technology.

This coin sale is not an offer of investment or securities in any business, venture, or company, or in any form of gaming operations or activity; purchase of BRO does not entitle the buyer to any interest in any profits or revenue of any common enterprise arising from the activities of others.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRK] Sale June 13 | Multicurrencies | Poker Celebrities
Post by: ofortuna on October 03, 2014, 02:45:21 AM
To skip the history of the coin please jump to the new posts of Breakout 2016 here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=808648.msg15125046#msg15125046



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: jaybny on October 03, 2014, 02:45:27 AM
Bergstake FAQ

Do I need to know about Bergstake to use BRO?
No. Breakoutcoin can be used like any other digital currency, users of the currency will never encounter the Bergstake, but should know that Bergstake is used by miners for the purpose of securing the coin and the network and prevent double spending.

How is Bergstake different than Stake?
When you own a digital currency, you have “stake” in it. The stake that you own was  transferred many times over before it reached your wallet, just like that dollar bill in your pocket.

The story of the coin starts when it was originally “minted” by a process called “mining”. The miner, presented a “proof” that was accepted by the network and added to the blockchain. As a reward, the miner is allowed to give herself a number of shiny new coins. She then mints these new coins by making a transaction that sends coins to her wallet. These coins now enter circulation and will be transferred from wallet to wallet as currency.

Bergstake is the “stake” of a coin at the moment it is minted. Before the coin is ever transferred; Bergstake is the Stake! Once a transfer is made, there is a new stake holder, but not a new bergstake holder. The Bergstake is forever owned by the initial minter, and cannot be transferred away.

So whats so special about Bergstake?
The properties of Bergstake allow the use of “Proof-of-Bergstake” to reach distributed  consensus and secure the blockchain. The technical details are out of this scope, to learn more, please research Proof-of-Work and Proof-of-Stake blockchains. See our forum threads for links to white papers.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 03, 2014, 02:46:26 AM
awesome ICO..I'm In


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: bathrobehero on October 03, 2014, 02:47:35 AM
12% - 2.5 million – Developers, Marketing, Pros, Bounties, Ops
21% - 4.5 million – Initial Coin Offering, Genesis block + Bergstake
33% 7 million – Giveaways - 2 year distribution schedule



that means 67% coins belongs to u?  lol


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 03, 2014, 02:58:52 AM
12% - 2.5 million – Developers, Marketing, Pros, Bounties, Ops
21% - 4.5 million – Initial Coin Offering, Genesis block + Bergstake
33% 7 million – Giveaways - 2 year distribution schedule



that means 67% coins belongs to u?  lol

Hello everyone, we hope you will give us a chance to tell our story.  We understand this "coin sale" is not for everyone.  Our goal is to use BRO and penetrate a $40B online gaming market by marketing the coin and platform with top gaming celebrities as Brand Ambassadors.  We will be offering the entire crypto community bonus codes, bounties, referral bonuses and more.  We want to create opportunities for our community to benefit and at the same time enjoy some of our traditional and unique games.

Our intention is the to be the first crypto business that enters a multi-Billion dollar market that will provide investors and gamers alike with liquidity never seen before in the crypto space.

7 Million of the coins are going to be distributed freely in order to have a wide distribution of people all over the world using our coin. The exact schedule is listed on the "coin sale" page.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: jaybny on October 03, 2014, 03:15:35 AM
12% - 2.5 million – Developers, Marketing, Pros, Bounties, Ops
21% - 4.5 million – Initial Coin Offering, Genesis block + Bergstake
33% 7 million – Giveaways - 2 year distribution schedule



that means 67% coins belongs to u?  lol

7 Million of the coins are going to be freely distributed to gamers who support the coin.  The exact schedule is listed on the ICO page.

its less than 7% pre-mine.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: TippingPoint on October 03, 2014, 03:15:53 AM
You have my attention.  Try not to **** it up.



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: TheClownSong on October 03, 2014, 03:22:58 AM
Ok, I thought the early bids were today


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: brother3 on October 03, 2014, 03:34:23 AM
You have my attention.  Try not to **** it up.



Please allow me to introduce myself. I am one of the Breakout team's core members.  I am also a very successful (lucky!) crypto currency miner/investor.  I will try to help the Breakout community anyway I can.

TippingPoint, thank you for your interest.

We will not **** it up  :D
This project is our heart and soul.




Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: brother3 on October 03, 2014, 03:46:24 AM
Ok, I thought the early bids were today


The ICO offering will start on October 21th. There is incentive for early birds. 
We wanted ample time for people to experience our website at http://www.breakoutcoin.com/ (http://www.breakoutcoin.com/) and do their research, etc.

Thank you for your interest!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: ofortuna on October 03, 2014, 03:50:25 AM
You have my attention.  Try not to **** it up.



Please allow me to introduce myself. I am one of the Breakout team's core members.  I am also a very successful (lucky!) crypto currency miner/investor.  I will try to help the Breakout community anyway I can.

TippingPoint, thank you for your interest.

We will not **** it up  :D
This project is our heart and soul.




Thank you brother3!

I am also a part of the Breakout Team and will do my best to communicate the best I can what I know about the gaming project and BRO coin.  To those that are interested, I would recommend that you start by going to BreakoutCoin.com and go to the Team page.  There you can get to know some of the incredible people that have come together to back the project in development, design, and leadership.

Thanks and I look forward to talking to you more in the coming days!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: jackfruit on October 03, 2014, 03:53:12 AM
The team looks very impressive. I have a question relating to distribution. If I understand correctly, of the 14m coins at launch, the team will control 9.5m of them. Why is so much of the supply needed for development + giveaways?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: brother3 on October 03, 2014, 04:07:36 AM


Here is the link to test drive BreakOut's Digital Hub

http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/breakout-gaming-preview/ (http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/breakout-gaming-preview/)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 03, 2014, 04:09:06 AM
The team looks very impressive. I have a question relating to distribution. If I understand correctly, of the 14m coins at launch, the team will control 9.5m of them. Why is so much of the supply needed for development + giveaways?

Jackfruit, thanks for the question and it is something we need to address immediately.  The size of the project is International in scope, we hope to compete with some of the larger traditional gaming companies out there today.

In order to recruit top talent, we had to sell them our story and persuade our team that crypto coins were the way of the future.  There are over 40 members at this time that need to compensated with BRO coins, and you can imagine how difficult is is to convince intelligent people to accept computer code instead of cash.  I'm sure you can imagine what the conversation would sound like, I'm sure you've had similar situations with your friends and family.

However, we were able to sell our story to these top executives, celebrities and artists to join our team with nothing but BRO coins and a dream.  Every member of our team believes strongly in our project as well as in the future of cryptocurrencies.  We are all totally committed to make BRO a tremendous success story.

2.5million will be distributed to developers, celebrities, artists, executives. investors, etc...

7million coins will be held strictly in a public wallet.  Breakout Gaming will never have any right to a single coin outside of distribution.  The schedule has already been detailed and outlined in the breakoutcoin.com site.  These coins will be used for referrals, player bonuses, etc.. The goal is to spread the coins to a wide and diverse group of people all over the world, using marketing strategies normally used only by large corporations.

Disclaimer: Breakout Coin and Breakout Gaming are two separate services/entities.  Breakout Coin is offering BRO coins for btc. By participating in this "coin sale," you are not purchasing interest in Breakout Gaming.  You are solely participating in the "coin sale" of a crypto coin that happens to have a gaming company that supports the BRO coin by having their chips denominated in the BRO crypto coin.

As specified in the first paragraph in the Terms and Conditions:

WARNING:  Do not purchase BRO if you are not an expert in crypto tokens or currency and blockchain technology.

This coin sale is not an offer of investment or securities in any business, venture, or company, or in any form of gaming operations or activity; purchase of BRO does not entitle the buyer to any interest in any profits or revenue of any common enterprise arising from the activities of others.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: bernardissharpe on October 03, 2014, 04:23:12 AM
As a journalist, I will be keeping a very close eye on this stuff!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: jrw023 on October 03, 2014, 04:29:47 AM
Hi everyone!  Excited to be a part of the Breakout Team.  As a core member from the Soda & Lime Agency (the creatives behind the look and feel), we are thrilled to have a hand in the creativity that will catapult Breakout Gaming mainstream and the BRO coin a recognizable name.  We tried to create a immersive and informative experience for the Announcement site, and we hope you find the information helpful and exciting.

We can speak from behind the curtain, and say there is much more exciting things to come!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: jackfruit on October 03, 2014, 04:30:28 AM
The team looks very impressive. I have a question relating to distribution. If I understand correctly, of the 14m coins at launch, the team will control 9.5m of them. Why is so much of the supply needed for development + giveaways?

Jackfruit, thanks for the question and it is something we need to address immediately.  The size of the project is International in scope, we hope to compete with some of the larger traditional gaming companies out there today.

In order to recruit top talent, we had to sell them our story and persuade our team that crypto coins were the way of the future.  There are over 40 members at this time that need to compensated with BRO coins, and you can imagine how difficult is is to convince intelligent people to accept computer code instead of cash.  I'm sure you can imagine what the conversation would sound like, I'm sure you've had similar situations with your friends and family.

However, we were able to sell our story to these top executives, celebrities and artists to join our team with nothing but BRO coins and a dream.  Every member of our team believes strongly in our project as well as in the future of cryptocurrencies.  We are all totally committed to make BRO a tremendous success story.

2.5million will be distributed to developers, celebrities, artists, executives. investors, etc...

7million coins will be held strictly in a public wallet.  Breakout Gaming will never have any right to a single coin outside of distribution.  The schedule has already been detailed and outlined in the breakoutcoin.com site.  These coins will be used for referrals, player bonuses, etc.. The goal is to spread the coins to a wide and diverse group of people all over the world, using marketing strategies normally used only by large corporations.  In time, these players will be the second, third, fourth wave of investors.  Providing liquidity for investors, something not yet seen in the crypto world.

Thanks for your detailed reply!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: crash__bandicoot on October 03, 2014, 04:48:10 AM
I wanted to introduce myself. I'm a web content writer for Breakout Gaming. My name is Clay Gillespie. I also freelance write for other Bitcoin and other crypto outlets.

I'm really excited to be a part of this. It's so cool to work with a team like this, even if I'm only a writer.  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: ofortuna on October 03, 2014, 05:11:36 AM
Hi everyone!  Excited to be a part of the Breakout Team.  As a core member from the Soda & Lime Agency (the creatives behind the look and feel), we are thrilled to have a hand in the creativity that will catapult Breakout Gaming mainstream and the BRO coin a recognizable name.  We tried to create a immersive and informative experience for the Announcement site, and we hope you find the information helpful and exciting.

We can speak from behind the curtain, and say there is much more exciting things to come!

Thanks Jrw023!  I can either gush for hours talking about Soda & Lime or I can just show you what they do.  If you see anything that you think looks cool about Breakout, the credit falls squarely on them.

Bonnerbellew.com
sodaandlime.com

https://twitter.com/BreakoutGaming
https://www.facebook.com/breakoutandwin


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: majeis on October 03, 2014, 05:18:41 AM
I had some questions earlier, but they seem to have been answered.  ;D

I'm looking forward to seeing what this project can accomplish.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: Arbex on October 03, 2014, 05:40:08 AM
Hi All, I'm excited and proud to be a part of the Breakout team! Combining crypto coins and gaming is a great opportunity -- and Breakout Gaming is committed to doing it right. My quant and currency background of measuring, evaluating and exchanging value really comes into play with this. Looking forward to learning and being part of the community here.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 03, 2014, 05:50:03 AM
Hi.  I represent Breakout Gaming as player liaison for our poker pros.  I've known most of them for over 20 years. I've been in the gaming industry as executive poker host and manager for many years.  If you have any questions I would love to answer them for you.  


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: megashira1 on October 03, 2014, 05:55:54 AM
edit: so no cap ICO?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: brother3 on October 03, 2014, 06:02:24 AM

To ensure fair distribution of BRO, the ICO will be pro rata basis, with incentive for early birds.
Please follow this link on our website for more details.

http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/offering/ (http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/offering/)



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: megashira1 on October 03, 2014, 06:11:15 AM
Has the poker app already started development?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 03, 2014, 06:23:05 AM
Has the poker app already started development?

The poker app has been in development for many months and we are customizing the UX to be current and modern.  We will be rolling out the poker/casino along with the Fantasy games on a set schedule.  There will be a liberal amount of freerolls available and a chance to play with some of the poker celebrities such as Johnny Chan!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: megashira1 on October 03, 2014, 06:30:33 AM
Has the poker app already started development?

The poker app has been in development for many months and we are customizing the UX to be current and modern.  We will be rolling out the poker/casino along with the Fantasy games on a set schedule.  There will be a liberal amount of freerolls available and a chance to play with some of the poker celebrities such as Johnny Chan!

Any screenshots we can see? Beta testing?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: brother3 on October 03, 2014, 07:03:19 AM
Has the poker app already started development?

The poker app has been in development for many months and we are customizing the UX to be current and modern.  We will be rolling out the poker/casino along with the Fantasy games on a set schedule.  There will be a liberal amount of freerolls available and a chance to play with some of the poker celebrities such as Johnny Chan!

Any screenshots we can see? Beta testing?

These are earlier drafts of the tables. They have been updated to make it more functional, i.e. card faces are larger now. We have a total of six incredible designs to start, but will rotate new table designs regularly.  You will have to wait until we release snapshots of the most recent designs, but information will be revealed here on this thread regularly.

I had to resize the images to make them load faster (losing a lot of sharpness and detail in the process)


Here you go...





Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 03, 2014, 08:01:46 AM
poker tables look amazin   ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: statdude on October 03, 2014, 03:13:55 PM
What is the ICO price?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: megashira1 on October 03, 2014, 03:23:10 PM
What is the ICO price?

It's uncapped.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: crash__bandicoot on October 03, 2014, 04:21:07 PM
poker tables look amazin   ;D

Right? Soda & Lime rocked the design on this project.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: statdude on October 03, 2014, 04:44:54 PM
Seems like it might be really easy to earn BRO from freerolls and giveaways  ;D

Will there be a transparent ledger of all transactions and the pre-mine?

I only invest in transparent projects.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: provenceday on October 03, 2014, 04:55:33 PM
seems great, waiting for this now.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: bitbybitbybitcoin on October 03, 2014, 05:24:19 PM
This is why cryptocurrency is superior, bro!  http://reason.com/blog/2014/10/01/iowa-troopers-steal-100000-in-poker-winn


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: ofortuna on October 03, 2014, 05:44:12 PM
Seems like it might be really easy to earn BRO from freerolls and giveaways  ;D

Will there be a transparent ledger of all transactions and the pre-mine?

I only invest in transparent projects.

Hi statdude,

Yes, we want to distribute BRO to gamers with as wide a distribution as possible. You can see a more detailed breakdown of the BRO giveaway schedule by category:

  • Bonuses
  • Poker
  • eSports
  • Social Media
  • Fantasy Sports
  • Fantasy Crypto
  • Casino

Check out the interactive table at http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/offering/


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: brother3 on October 03, 2014, 06:09:39 PM
This is why cryptocurrency is superior, bro!  http://reason.com/blog/2014/10/01/iowa-troopers-steal-100000-in-poker-winn

Lessons to be learned here....

Play with BRO and you get to keep your hard earned winnings

Do not travel with a grinder  :D


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: ofortuna on October 03, 2014, 06:48:08 PM
That's a serious toll charge   ;D



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 03, 2014, 07:33:58 PM
Seems like it might be really easy to earn BRO from freerolls and giveaways  ;D

Will there be a transparent ledger of all transactions and the pre-mine?

I only invest in transparent projects.

Yes, you can earn BRO from freerolls and giveaways, however the fastest way to accumulate BRO is through the "coin sale."  Remember, the BRO given away during the freerolls and giveaways do not come with Bergstake.  The only BRO that comes with Bergstake is through the "coins sale" or the mining process.  There will be opportunities to gain huge benefits through our affiliate and referral program though.

There will be a transparent ledger, in fact we already published an entire schedule of the distribution of the pre-mine (7m giveaways).


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 03, 2014, 08:27:08 PM
the crypto game looks interesting and curious to see what the esports game is all about :)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: J9901 on October 03, 2014, 08:41:43 PM
I like what i see  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: brother3 on October 03, 2014, 09:06:27 PM
BROdy asks....


Do I look fat?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: ofortuna on October 03, 2014, 10:23:39 PM
the crypto game looks interesting and curious to see what the esports game is all about :)

Professional eSports is the future of competitive gaming.  At Breakout Gaming, you will be able to bet on LoL and Dota2 matches within a Fantasy Sports format.  In 2013, Twitch had 45 million unique viewers who watched a total of 2.4 billions hours of gameplay.  Now imagine if you had a BRO or two riding on the match?

http://static.ongamers.com/uploads/original/0/10/5098-5097-4266431433-1364-.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: zorke on October 03, 2014, 10:36:42 PM
Escrow? POD?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: gargamel_fk on October 03, 2014, 10:37:54 PM
Will you offer poker and casino to clients in USA?? That's probably the most important question??If not there is a little value in the project


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: Gzesh on October 03, 2014, 10:38:52 PM
Hello,

I have been consulting with Breakout Gaming regarding the post-ICO business model, which will be a legal, licensed operator, with offerings across igaming markets , and across a variety of games.

Feel free to ask about the gaming business to be launched, and its unique features to support BRO, one that will serve post-ICO to bring in traditional fiat gamers to the BRO economy.  

David


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: timmyd on October 03, 2014, 10:45:20 PM
Impressed  :o This will be huge if all goes well. Nice to see a well thought out and planned project for a change. i wil be following this


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: Gzesh on October 03, 2014, 10:48:19 PM
Will you offer poker and casino to clients in USA?? That's probably the most important question??If not there is a little value in the project

I tend to disagree with your business analysis for a variety of reasons:

1. There is a big gaming world outside the US, so finding "value" only in terms of the US markets is somewhat artificially limiting the scope of gaming opportunities.

2. In any event, there are business models and gaming channels available to US residents that can be offered.  Breakout will be offering as many varieties of gaming as it can, legally (and profitably) , across US State markets, including fantasy games, skill games and the like.

3. A open-ended term like "poker and casino" also tends to cover more ground than may be intended in your question. There even are many variants of poker and casino models offered legally to US customers as well.  None of them do much to promote cryptocurrency adoption or offer prizing in crypto.



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: jackfruit on October 03, 2014, 10:54:22 PM
When does ICO end?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 03, 2014, 10:58:06 PM
 
Will you offer poker and casino to clients in USA?? That's probably the most important question??If not there is a little value in the project

dude, you created this account today and your first post is to come directly this board and make dumbass comments?  sounds like you have a hidden agenda ???


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: jaybny on October 03, 2014, 11:20:18 PM
Escrow? POD?

whats POD?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 03, 2014, 11:48:30 PM
If anyone has any questions for our poker pros please let me know.  I will forward to our poker agents promptly


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: gargamel_fk on October 04, 2014, 12:19:03 AM
Will you offer poker and casino to clients in USA?? That's probably the most important question??If not there is a little value in the project

dude, you created this account today and your first post is to come directly this board and make dumbass comments?  sounds like you have a hidden agenda ???

Man that I haven't been posting on bitcoin talk doesn't mean I am not known. In fact I am a poker pro who used to live in Thailand and now live in Medellin Colombia. I have a blog on runitonce.
Why would you use a cryptocurrency and hire a bunch of poker pros as "faces" that outside of US very few heard about and then not offer poker for US players?? And thats not only my view if you look in a thread on 2+2 in NVG forum it is shared opinion about this project at least on the poker side which is the only one that matters for me.


I just asked question and it already seem and based on insta trolling I got from members of BRO team prove that you are unprofessional hence I don't see any reason to bother myself with your start-up.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: brother3 on October 04, 2014, 12:35:18 AM
Will you offer poker and casino to clients in USA?? That's probably the most important question??If not there is a little value in the project

dude, you created this account today and your first post is to come directly this board and make dumbass comments?  sounds like you have a hidden agenda ???

Man that I haven't been posting on bitcoin talk doesn't mean I am not known. In fact I am a poker pro who used to live in Thailand and now live in Medellin Colombia. I have a blog on runitonce.
Why would you use a cryptocurrency and hire a bunch of poker pros as "faces" that outside of US very few heard about and then not offer poker for US players?? And thats not only my view if you look in a thread on 2+2 in NVG forum it is shared opinion about this project at least on the poker side which is the only one that matters for me.


I just asked question and it already seem and based on insta trolling I got from members of BRO team prove that you are unprofessional hence I don't see any reason to bother myself with your start-up.

BRO Team members insta trolled you? Whom?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: Hocapoca on October 04, 2014, 12:45:11 AM
Interesting concept, I'll invest a disposable amount just because of my enjoyment of gaming/betting. Is there any sort of dividend/investment return from holding BRO?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 04, 2014, 01:52:09 AM
Will you offer poker and casino to clients in USA?? That's probably the most important question??If not there is a little value in the project

dude, you created this account today and your first post is to come directly this board and make dumbass comments?  sounds like you have a hidden agenda ???

Man that I haven't been posting on bitcoin talk doesn't mean I am not known. In fact I am a poker pro who used to live in Thailand and now live in Medellin Colombia. I have a blog on runitonce.
Why would you use a cryptocurrency and hire a bunch of poker pros as "faces" that outside of US very few heard about and then not offer poker for US players?? And thats not only my view if you look in a thread on 2+2 in NVG forum it is shared opinion about this project at least on the poker side which is the only one that matters for me.


I just asked question and it already seem and based on insta trolling I got from members of BRO team prove that you are unprofessional hence I don't see any reason to bother myself with your start-up.

Gargamel, all questions on here are welcomed and I believe our gaming adviser Gzesh answered your previous question.  FYI, information there are only several US Poker Pros. you may be familiar with most of the names because they are known worldwide.  Jeff Lisandro in Australia, David Benyamine in Europe. Vladimir in Russia. Toto in Philippines, etc..  As we near closer to launch, we will be signing on a younger and more diverse, social media friendly international team as Brand Ambassadors, sponsoring pro video gamers, professional athletes. etc.,  This is just the beginning!

Just so you know, poker will be only 20% or less of our business.  Daily Fantasy Sports is the new legalized form of gambling in the US and growing at a tremendous pace.  We will be offering Fantasy Sports for NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB, GOLF, NASCAR, eSports and Crypto,  In the near future (phase 2.0) we are planning to add UFC and eXtreme Sports to the menu.  Feel free to pm us personally with any additional questions or you can just post them directly on here.  Thanks for your input.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 04, 2014, 01:53:56 AM
Actually we have tried to embrace players that represent all parts of the globe.  Vladimir is from Russia Johnny although from the USA now, is very well known worldwide and is originally from China Jeff is Australian and David represents Europe.  


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: ofortuna on October 04, 2014, 03:42:41 AM
Impressed  :o This will be huge if all goes well. Nice to see a well thought out and planned project for a change. i wil be following this

Thanks Timmyd  ;D

It seems, at least to me, that we've been thinking about and planning this project since forever so your compliment is very much appreciated!



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: brother3 on October 04, 2014, 03:43:33 AM
Interesting concept, I'll invest a disposable amount just because of my enjoyment of gaming/betting. Is there any sort of dividend/investment return from holding BRO?

BRO coins from ICO or the PoW phase will have Bergstake, the later of which gives you the ability to earn more BRO coins when the PoB phase kicks in.

Please go to http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/the-coin/ (http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/the-coin/) and read more about Bergstake.  It will be worth your while!

Thanks for your interest!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 04, 2014, 04:45:39 AM
how does the crypto game work?  


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: jaybny on October 04, 2014, 07:05:45 AM
how does the crypto game work?  
its modeled after fantasy sports, but with alt-coins, instead of players..

edit: sic


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: jaybny on October 04, 2014, 07:08:32 AM
Interesting concept, I'll invest a disposable amount just because of my enjoyment of gaming/betting. Is there any sort of dividend/investment return from holding BRO?

BRO coins from ICO or the PoW phase will have Bergstake, the later of which gives you the ability to earn more BRO coins when the PoB phase kicks in.

Please go to http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/the-coin/ (http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/the-coin/) and read more about Bergstake.  It will be worth your while!

Thanks for your interest!


currently there is no plan for stake interest.. however, as stated in previous thread, we are open to it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=783682.0;all


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: timmyd on October 04, 2014, 08:05:12 AM
Impressed  :o This will be huge if all goes well. Nice to see a well thought out and planned project for a change. i wil be following this

Thanks Timmyd  ;D

It seems, at least to me, that we've been thinking about and planning this project since forever so your compliment is very much appreciated!


No worries. i can see the effort put into this and thats what ill be investing in  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: brother3 on October 04, 2014, 01:24:32 PM
Impressed  :o This will be huge if all goes well. Nice to see a well thought out and planned project for a change. i wil be following this

Thanks Timmyd  ;D

It seems, at least to me, that we've been thinking about and planning this project since forever so your compliment is very much appreciated!


No worries. i can see the effort put into this and thats what ill be investing in  ;D

We have a winner!!!   ;D

We started working on this project sometimes in February of this year...  Seems like a decade ago   ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: brother3 on October 04, 2014, 02:14:34 PM
seems great, waiting for this now.

Thanks very much!  I will forward the documents (per our PMs) soon...


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: Arbex on October 04, 2014, 04:54:29 PM
how does the crypto game work?  
its modeled after fantasy sports, but with alt-coins, instead of players..

edit: sic

Crypto games are based initially on the familiar fantasy sports format --
Picking players (coins) in positions (sets of coins) for offense (market cap going up), and defense (mkt cap going down) for time periods of 1-day, 1-week, 4-weeks, and longer.  Other variations will be introduced too.
More info in "Innovative Game: Fantasy Crypto" in:
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/gaming-platform/

Crypto games will give people a way to take a position on those coins they think are 'useful and going somewhere good', and those they think are 'not adding value nor going anywhere good'.

They're designed as a fun way to test and potentially reward our savvy about coins.  We'll find out things like --
- Do the factors I think determine coin success actually drive their market cap?
- How about big gaps: Which ones are really under appreciated -- or are ready to crash?
- By showing averages of our picks on each coin, will we get good predictions of future winners and losers?  
- What would you like to see in these games?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: bogdan_ulm on October 04, 2014, 05:22:28 PM
Hi everyone, I am Bogdan and I am a writer at Breakout Gaming. If I can answer any of your questions regarding BRO coin as well as the other services, please do not hesitate to contact me.  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: juicejoyce on October 04, 2014, 05:55:40 PM
any escrow for the ICO,   
another ICO ,more tired for that .


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: brother3 on October 04, 2014, 07:06:10 PM

@jaybny

My guess is Proof of Developer

See this link http://cryptoasian.com/proof-of-developer-faq/ (http://cryptoasian.com/proof-of-developer-faq/)


@Zorke

Please take a look at our team http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/the-team/ (http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/the-team/)



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 04, 2014, 07:52:59 PM
how does the crypto game work?  
its modeled after fantasy sports, but with alt-coins, instead of players..

edit: sic

Crypto games are based initially on the familiar fantasy sports format --
Picking players (coins) in positions (sets of coins) for offense (market cap going up), and defense (mkt cap going down) for time periods of 1-day, 1-week, 4-weeks, and longer.  Other variations will be introduced too.
More info in "Innovative Game: Fantasy Crypto" in:
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/gaming-platform/

Crypto games will give people a way to take a position on those coins they think are 'useful and going somewhere good', and those they think are 'not adding value nor going anywhere good'.

They're designed as a fun way to test and potentially reward our savvy about coins.  We'll find out things like --
- Do the factors I think determine coin success actually drive their market cap?
- How about big gaps: Which ones are really under appreciated -- or are ready to crash?
- By showing averages of our picks on each coin, will we get good predictions of future winners and losers?  
- What would you like to see in these games?

what altcoins will be eligible for the game? 


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: Arbex on October 04, 2014, 09:41:24 PM
how does the crypto game work?  
its modeled after fantasy sports, but with alt-coins, instead of players..

edit: sic

Crypto games are based initially on the familiar fantasy sports format --
Picking players (coins) in positions (sets of coins) for offense (market cap going up), and defense (mkt cap going down) for time periods of 1-day, 1-week, 4-weeks, and longer.  Other variations will be introduced too.
More info in "Innovative Game: Fantasy Crypto" in:
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/gaming-platform/

Crypto games will give people a way to take a position on those coins they think are 'useful and going somewhere good', and those they think are 'not adding value nor going anywhere good'.

They're designed as a fun way to test and potentially reward our savvy about coins.  We'll find out things like --
- Do the factors I think determine coin success actually drive their market cap?
- How about big gaps: Which ones are really under appreciated -- or are ready to crash?
- By showing averages of our picks on each coin, will we get good predictions of future winners and losers?  
- What would you like to see in these games?

what altcoins will be eligible for the game? 

To be used, the altcoins will need to be big enough (measured in market cap) and liquid enough (average 24-hour volume).  This means coins will typically be selected from those in the top, say 70, biggest market cap list.  Price movements become too noisy to use when coins get too small or thinly traded.  And, the coins included at the start of any particular game may be different from those in other games.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 04, 2014, 09:48:29 PM
how does the crypto game work?  
its modeled after fantasy sports, but with alt-coins, instead of players..

edit: sic

Crypto games are based initially on the familiar fantasy sports format --
Picking players (coins) in positions (sets of coins) for offense (market cap going up), and defense (mkt cap going down) for time periods of 1-day, 1-week, 4-weeks, and longer.  Other variations will be introduced too.
More info in "Innovative Game: Fantasy Crypto" in:
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/gaming-platform/

Crypto games will give people a way to take a position on those coins they think are 'useful and going somewhere good', and those they think are 'not adding value nor going anywhere good'.

They're designed as a fun way to test and potentially reward our savvy about coins.  We'll find out things like --
- Do the factors I think determine coin success actually drive their market cap?
- How about big gaps: Which ones are really under appreciated -- or are ready to crash?
- By showing averages of our picks on each coin, will we get good predictions of future winners and losers?  
- What would you like to see in these games?

what altcoins will be eligible for the game? 

To be used, the altcoins will need to be big enough (measured in market cap) and liquid enough (average 24-hour volume).  This means coins will typically be selected from those in the top, say 70, biggest market cap list.  Price movements become too noisy to use when coins get too small or thinly traded.  And, the coins included at the start of any particular game may be different from those in other games.

so you are saying that there will probably be the top 70 coins from coinmarketcap that we can choose from? ::)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: brother3 on October 05, 2014, 12:05:34 AM
I like what i see  ;)

Your kind words mean the world to us!

Thanks for stopping by  :D


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: Arbex on October 05, 2014, 12:46:06 AM
how does the crypto game work?  
its modeled after fantasy sports, but with alt-coins, instead of players..

edit: sic

Crypto games are based initially on the familiar fantasy sports format --
Picking players (coins) in positions (sets of coins) for offense (market cap going up), and defense (mkt cap going down) for time periods of 1-day, 1-week, 4-weeks, and longer.  Other variations will be introduced too.
More info in "Innovative Game: Fantasy Crypto" in:
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/gaming-platform/

Crypto games will give people a way to take a position on those coins they think are 'useful and going somewhere good', and those they think are 'not adding value nor going anywhere good'.

They're designed as a fun way to test and potentially reward our savvy about coins.  We'll find out things like --
- Do the factors I think determine coin success actually drive their market cap?
- How about big gaps: Which ones are really under appreciated -- or are ready to crash?
- By showing averages of our picks on each coin, will we get good predictions of future winners and losers?  
- What would you like to see in these games?

what altcoins will be eligible for the game? 

To be used, the altcoins will need to be big enough (measured in market cap) and liquid enough (average 24-hour volume).  This means coins will typically be selected from those in the top, say 70, biggest market cap list.  Price movements become too noisy to use when coins get too small or thinly traded.  And, the coins included at the start of any particular game may be different from those in other games.

so you are saying that there will probably be the top 70 coins from coinmarketcap that we can choose from? ::)

Yep. Though more exactly, that's the basic pool from which coins (fewer than 70) will be selected for you to choose from in each game.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 05, 2014, 12:51:50 AM
how does the crypto game work?  
its modeled after fantasy sports, but with alt-coins, instead of players..

edit: sic

Crypto games are based initially on the familiar fantasy sports format --
Picking players (coins) in positions (sets of coins) for offense (market cap going up), and defense (mkt cap going down) for time periods of 1-day, 1-week, 4-weeks, and longer.  Other variations will be introduced too.
More info in "Innovative Game: Fantasy Crypto" in:
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/gaming-platform/

Crypto games will give people a way to take a position on those coins they think are 'useful and going somewhere good', and those they think are 'not adding value nor going anywhere good'.

They're designed as a fun way to test and potentially reward our savvy about coins.  We'll find out things like --
- Do the factors I think determine coin success actually drive their market cap?
- How about big gaps: Which ones are really under appreciated -- or are ready to crash?
- By showing averages of our picks on each coin, will we get good predictions of future winners and losers?  
- What would you like to see in these games?

what altcoins will be eligible for the game? 

To be used, the altcoins will need to be big enough (measured in market cap) and liquid enough (average 24-hour volume).  This means coins will typically be selected from those in the top, say 70, biggest market cap list.  Price movements become too noisy to use when coins get too small or thinly traded.  And, the coins included at the start of any particular game may be different from those in other games.

so you are saying that there will probably be the top 70 coins from coinmarketcap that we can choose from? ::)

Yep. Though more exactly, that's the basic pool from which coins (fewer than 70) will be selected for you to choose from in each game.

so how much will the prizze pool be? how much can i win and who am i competing against?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: TheUsualStuff on October 05, 2014, 01:02:45 AM
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Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: ofortuna on October 05, 2014, 01:33:13 AM
how does the crypto game work?  
its modeled after fantasy sports, but with alt-coins, instead of players..

edit: sic

Crypto games are based initially on the familiar fantasy sports format --
Picking players (coins) in positions (sets of coins) for offense (market cap going up), and defense (mkt cap going down) for time periods of 1-day, 1-week, 4-weeks, and longer.  Other variations will be introduced too.
More info in "Innovative Game: Fantasy Crypto" in:
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/gaming-platform/

Crypto games will give people a way to take a position on those coins they think are 'useful and going somewhere good', and those they think are 'not adding value nor going anywhere good'.

They're designed as a fun way to test and potentially reward our savvy about coins.  We'll find out things like --
- Do the factors I think determine coin success actually drive their market cap?
- How about big gaps: Which ones are really under appreciated -- or are ready to crash?
- By showing averages of our picks on each coin, will we get good predictions of future winners and losers?  
- What would you like to see in these games?

what altcoins will be eligible for the game? 

To be used, the altcoins will need to be big enough (measured in market cap) and liquid enough (average 24-hour volume).  This means coins will typically be selected from those in the top, say 70, biggest market cap list.  Price movements become too noisy to use when coins get too small or thinly traded.  And, the coins included at the start of any particular game may be different from those in other games.

so you are saying that there will probably be the top 70 coins from coinmarketcap that we can choose from? ::)

Yep. Though more exactly, that's the basic pool from which coins (fewer than 70) will be selected for you to choose from in each game.

so how much will the prizze pool be? how much can i win and who am i competing against?


Hi Mayhem007,

Just like other Fantasy Sports games, the prize pools will vary depending on the number of players and the buy-in amount.  You will be competing against against other players and their lineup of coins.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 05, 2014, 02:08:46 AM
how does the crypto game work?  
its modeled after fantasy sports, but with alt-coins, instead of players..

edit: sic

Crypto games are based initially on the familiar fantasy sports format --
Picking players (coins) in positions (sets of coins) for offense (market cap going up), and defense (mkt cap going down) for time periods of 1-day, 1-week, 4-weeks, and longer.  Other variations will be introduced too.
More info in "Innovative Game: Fantasy Crypto" in:
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/gaming-platform/

Crypto games will give people a way to take a position on those coins they think are 'useful and going somewhere good', and those they think are 'not adding value nor going anywhere good'.

They're designed as a fun way to test and potentially reward our savvy about coins.  We'll find out things like --
- Do the factors I think determine coin success actually drive their market cap?
- How about big gaps: Which ones are really under appreciated -- or are ready to crash?
- By showing averages of our picks on each coin, will we get good predictions of future winners and losers?  
- What would you like to see in these games?

what altcoins will be eligible for the game? 

To be used, the altcoins will need to be big enough (measured in market cap) and liquid enough (average 24-hour volume).  This means coins will typically be selected from those in the top, say 70, biggest market cap list.  Price movements become too noisy to use when coins get too small or thinly traded.  And, the coins included at the start of any particular game may be different from those in other games.

so you are saying that there will probably be the top 70 coins from coinmarketcap that we can choose from? ::)

Yep. Though more exactly, that's the basic pool from which coins (fewer than 70) will be selected for you to choose from in each game.

so how much will the prizze pool be? how much can i win and who am i competing against?


Hi Mayhem007,

Just like other Fantasy Sports games, the prize pools will vary depending on the number of players and the buy-in amount.  You will be competing against against other players and their lineup of coins.


so how is the winner determined?


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Post by: brother3 on October 05, 2014, 02:57:26 AM
@mayhem007

Seeing that you are interested in our Fantasy games, I thought you'd appreciate this ....

http://i.imgur.com/sZlUBYH.jpg


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Post by: brother3 on October 05, 2014, 04:10:26 AM
Sleep is overrated!



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: Arbex on October 05, 2014, 05:19:49 AM
how does the crypto game work?  
its modeled after fantasy sports, but with alt-coins, instead of players..

edit: sic

Crypto games are based initially on the familiar fantasy sports format --
Picking players (coins) in positions (sets of coins) for offense (market cap going up), and defense (mkt cap going down) for time periods of 1-day, 1-week, 4-weeks, and longer.  Other variations will be introduced too.
More info in "Innovative Game: Fantasy Crypto" in:
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/gaming-platform/

Crypto games will give people a way to take a position on those coins they think are 'useful and going somewhere good', and those they think are 'not adding value nor going anywhere good'.

They're designed as a fun way to test and potentially reward our savvy about coins.  We'll find out things like --
- Do the factors I think determine coin success actually drive their market cap?
- How about big gaps: Which ones are really under appreciated -- or are ready to crash?
- By showing averages of our picks on each coin, will we get good predictions of future winners and losers?  
- What would you like to see in these games?

what altcoins will be eligible for the game? 

To be used, the altcoins will need to be big enough (measured in market cap) and liquid enough (average 24-hour volume).  This means coins will typically be selected from those in the top, say 70, biggest market cap list.  Price movements become too noisy to use when coins get too small or thinly traded.  And, the coins included at the start of any particular game may be different from those in other games.

so you are saying that there will probably be the top 70 coins from coinmarketcap that we can choose from? ::)

Yep. Though more exactly, that's the basic pool from which coins (fewer than 70) will be selected for you to choose from in each game.

so how much will the prizze pool be? how much can i win and who am i competing against?


Hi Mayhem007,

Just like other Fantasy Sports games, the prize pools will vary depending on the number of players and the buy-in amount.  You will be competing against against other players and their lineup of coins.


so how is the winner determined?

OK, here's how.  In the first-style crypto game, modeled after fantasy sports, each gamer will get points for how well each of his chosen coins (players) did among their sets of coins (positions).  If a coin he picked to go up (offense) did indeed have the biggest percent increase in market cap of that group by the end of the game, then he gets 5 points.  If a picked coin went up 2nd most then he gets 3 points, and 3rd gets 2 points.  The same point tallies are done for coins picked to go up and to go down in each of 5 sets of coins.  All these points will be summed to find each gamer's total score.  At the end of the game these scores will be tallied and the top scorers will win.   

More info in "Innovative Game: Fantasy Crypto" in:
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/gaming-platform/


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Post by: Cryptomann on October 05, 2014, 07:01:11 AM
I have been involved with Breakout since May, helping with poker & I have to admit - this team is an amazing collection of talent & hard work - they have to be destined for success.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITY MARKETING! | Virtual Mining Rig | PRIVACY!
Post by: studio1one on October 05, 2014, 08:42:46 AM
Looks interesting.  Not too sure about the distribution


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Post by: ghostshark1 on October 05, 2014, 09:13:15 AM
None. I never posted on there.


Do Jennifer Harman, Layne Flack, David Benyamine, Ted Forrest, Todd Brunson own a piece of this new company?


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Post by: brother3 on October 05, 2014, 12:54:42 PM
Looks interesting.  Not too sure about the distribution

Thank you!  Could you please elaborate about the distribution?


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Post by: brother3 on October 05, 2014, 03:04:53 PM

Life is short, have fun !



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Post by: brother3 on October 05, 2014, 03:52:08 PM

Dead man's hand?  ;)

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/17799-mortician-convicted-of-running-illegal-poker-game (http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/17799-mortician-convicted-of-running-illegal-poker-game)


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Post by: PhiPhi on October 05, 2014, 04:26:33 PM
None. I never posted on there.


Do Jennifer Harman, Layne Flack, David Benyamine, Ted Forrest, Todd Brunson own a piece of this new company?

Fair question, I would like to know myself as links given by ghostshark1 were not comforting reading :-\



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Post by: brother3 on October 05, 2014, 04:59:31 PM

Here is looking at you kid!



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Post by: brother3 on October 05, 2014, 05:28:18 PM

Another reason to play from home  ;D

http://www.texasholdem-king.com/armed-robbery-at-poker-room-of-sahara-hotel-and-casino-143/ (http://www.texasholdem-king.com/armed-robbery-at-poker-room-of-sahara-hotel-and-casino-143/)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITY MARKETING! | Virtual Mining Rig | PRIVACY!
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 05, 2014, 06:33:29 PM
None. I never posted on there.


Do Jennifer Harman, Layne Flack, David Benyamine, Ted Forrest, Todd Brunson own a piece of this new company?

Hello Ghostshark,  I understand your reservations about Full Tilt.  The majority of our members that were NOT a part of that organization were also badly burned by Full Tilt, so the concerns you have are valid.  However, the players you mentioned are some of the most honorable poker players in the business (not the same as well-liked  ::) ).  However, marketing agents are not part of business decisions.  Was it a poor business decision by them to be associated with FT?  In hindsight you may say so, but at the time, every top pro in the business was signed to contracts by poker sites all over the world.  The execs that run the place happened to be of low character.  

We have over 40 members/investors in this project.  We are not revealing confidential company information on a public forum.  If you look at the top executives in Breakout, you will see, almost all of them have been in business with high-profile companies.  I do understand that you have reservations and all I can say is give us a chance and we will bring out exciting products and offer opportunities for the entire community.  If you are un-willing, we certainly understand, there are a bevy of other sites you can play online games.  

FYI, just because you own a share of a company, doesn't mean you have operational control.  All of the shareholders of FT, got badly burned.  They are VICTIMS, not accomplices. Misguided anger is not the answer. The marketing agents on our team all had initial reservations about joining another team because of that fiasco, but we were able to persuade them to give it another shot based on the potential of cryptocurrencies and gaming.

This group of players are only the "initial" marketing agents.  From now until and through the launch of our products, we will be taking applications from a younger and more diverse social media friendly players.  We will also be sponsoring eSports video game pros, fantasy sports pros and currently we are also looking into professional sports athletes.  Please contact us directly if you are interested in becoming a Brand Ambassador.  :)




Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITY MARKETING! | Virtual Mining Rig | PRIVACY!
Post by: BreakoutCoin on October 05, 2014, 06:49:27 PM
Random drive-by, NEWLY created troll accounts will not be tolerated.  Legitimate questions will always be answered. 


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITY MARKETING! | Virtual Mining Rig | PRIVACY!
Post by: brother3 on October 05, 2014, 07:08:01 PM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 05, 2014, 07:16:40 PM
how does the crypto game work?  
its modeled after fantasy sports, but with alt-coins, instead of players..

edit: sic

Crypto games are based initially on the familiar fantasy sports format --
Picking players (coins) in positions (sets of coins) for offense (market cap going up), and defense (mkt cap going down) for time periods of 1-day, 1-week, 4-weeks, and longer.  Other variations will be introduced too.
More info in "Innovative Game: Fantasy Crypto" in:
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/gaming-platform/

Crypto games will give people a way to take a position on those coins they think are 'useful and going somewhere good', and those they think are 'not adding value nor going anywhere good'.

They're designed as a fun way to test and potentially reward our savvy about coins.  We'll find out things like --
- Do the factors I think determine coin success actually drive their market cap?
- How about big gaps: Which ones are really under appreciated -- or are ready to crash?
- By showing averages of our picks on each coin, will we get good predictions of future winners and losers?  
- What would you like to see in these games?

what altcoins will be eligible for the game? 

To be used, the altcoins will need to be big enough (measured in market cap) and liquid enough (average 24-hour volume).  This means coins will typically be selected from those in the top, say 70, biggest market cap list.  Price movements become too noisy to use when coins get too small or thinly traded.  And, the coins included at the start of any particular game may be different from those in other games.

so you are saying that there will probably be the top 70 coins from coinmarketcap that we can choose from? ::)

Yep. Though more exactly, that's the basic pool from which coins (fewer than 70) will be selected for you to choose from in each game.

so how much will the prizze pool be? how much can i win and who am i competing against?


Hi Mayhem007,

Just like other Fantasy Sports games, the prize pools will vary depending on the number of players and the buy-in amount.  You will be competing against against other players and their lineup of coins.


so how is the winner determined?

OK, here's how.  In the first-style crypto game, modeled after fantasy sports, each gamer will get points for how well each of his chosen coins (players) did among their sets of coins (positions).  If a coin he picked to go up (offense) did indeed have the biggest percent increase in market cap of that group by the end of the game, then he gets 5 points.  If a picked coin went up 2nd most then he gets 3 points, and 3rd gets 2 points.  The same point tallies are done for coins picked to go up and to go down in each of 5 sets of coins.  All these points will be summed to find each gamer's total score.  At the end of the game these scores will be tallied and the top scorers will win.   

More info in "Innovative Game: Fantasy Crypto" in:
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/gaming-platform/

thnx for the info dude.  cant wait to test it out


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITY MARKETING! | Virtual Mining Rig | PRIVACY!
Post by: ofortuna on October 05, 2014, 07:48:28 PM
In traditional Fantasy Sports contests, pools last the course of an entire season.  With Daily Fantasy Sports, a contest can last just one day or a week.  You can draft a new team each and every day and when the games are settled that night, a winner is declared.  Winners are paid, then the process repeats.

As the days matches are played, players on your custom drafted roster can score points.  If the sport is baseball, your player might score 3pts for a base hit.  If the sport is League of Legends, your player might score 2pts for a kill.  As the action unfolds, you can view the progress of your team on your mobile throughout the day.



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Post by: Randy M Kim on October 05, 2014, 07:57:38 PM
Hi. I'm Randy Kim.  I'm player rep for Breakout Gaming.  Are you interested in Breakout Gaming ?  Do you feel it has the potential we know it has ?  Can you help us promote our innovative project ?  Would you like to be a branding agent for Breakout Gaming ?  If you answered yes to all these questions please contact me to discuss opportunities to become part of our team.


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Post by: sanbashiyi on October 05, 2014, 08:05:33 PM
Hi. I'm Randy Kim.  I'm player rep for Breakout Gaming.  Are you interested in Breakout Gaming ?  Do you feel it has the potential we know it has ?  Can you help us promote our innovative project ?  Would you like to be a branding agent for Breakout Gaming ?  If you answered yes to all these questions please contact me to discuss opportunities to become part of our team.
lol you have so many question that's make dev hard to answer


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITY MARKETING! | Virtual Mining Rig | PRIVACY!
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 05, 2014, 09:04:29 PM
Hi. I'm Randy Kim.  I'm player rep for Breakout Gaming.  Are you interested in Breakout Gaming ?  Do you feel it has the potential we know it has ?  Can you help us promote our innovative project ?  Would you like to be a branding agent for Breakout Gaming ?  If you answered yes to all these questions please contact me to discuss opportunities to become part of our team.
lol you have so many question that's make dev hard to answer

What can I say sanbashiyi.  I love our project!!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITY MARKETING! | Virtual Mining Rig | PRIVACY!
Post by: brother3 on October 05, 2014, 09:40:55 PM
The World Is Yours




Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITY MARKETING! | Virtual Mining Rig | PRIVACY!
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 05, 2014, 10:32:42 PM
Anyone interested in bounties as a developer or Brand Ambassador as a player, please contact us at team@breakoutgaming.com


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITY MARKETING! | Virtual Mining Rig | PRIVACY!
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 05, 2014, 11:14:49 PM

i remember you from Klondike Coin, whatever happened to KDC?  still around?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: Cryptomann on October 06, 2014, 12:37:20 AM
If you think crypto currency is the future - the future is here:

http://breakoutcoin.com/


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: barabbas on October 06, 2014, 01:04:42 AM
And you just registered to let us know it on your first post... sounds legit.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 06, 2014, 01:16:10 AM
And you just registered to let us know it on your first post... sounds legit.

barrabas, Cryptoman is a part of the Breakout Team.  He announced it on his previous post.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 06, 2014, 01:30:14 AM
Play On!



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: jackfruit on October 06, 2014, 02:06:30 AM
When does ICO end?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: Cryptomann on October 06, 2014, 03:16:35 AM
And you just registered to let us know it on your first post... sounds legit.

barabbas, here is my 1st post:

"I have been involved with Breakout since May, helping with poker & I have to admit - this team is an amazing collection of talent & hard work - they have to be destined for success."


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITY MARKETING! | Virtual Mining Rig | PRIVACY!
Post by: brother3 on October 06, 2014, 03:20:06 AM

i remember you from Klondike Coin, whatever happened to KDC?  still around?

I made a lot of money with KDC and got out before it tanked.
KDC has been abandoned by the original devs.  I think it's still around...


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 06, 2014, 04:31:45 AM
so when r the games going to launch?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: barabbas on October 06, 2014, 04:46:05 AM
And you just registered to let us know it on your first post... sounds legit.

barabbas, here is my 1st post:

"I have been involved with Breakout since May, helping with poker & I have to admit - this team is an amazing collection of talent & hard work - they have to be destined for success."

Wow. Too many (anonymous) people on the team. It gets confusing...


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: Arbex on October 06, 2014, 05:05:58 AM
.
.
More info in "Innovative Game: Fantasy Crypto" in:
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/gaming-platform/

thnx for the info dude.  cant wait to test it out

Thx Mayhem007.  Me too!   :)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 06, 2014, 05:07:50 AM
And you just registered to let us know it on your first post... sounds legit.

barabbas, here is my 1st post:

"I have been involved with Breakout since May, helping with poker & I have to admit - this team is an amazing collection of talent & hard work - they have to be destined for success."

Wow. Too many (anonymous) people on the team. It gets confusing...

barrabbas, we have over 40 members working on this project and many of them were unfamiliar with cryptocurrencies until joining the BRO team.  Please forgive us if there has been any confusion, most of us are trying to say hello in support of BRO.  I believe most of the team have introduced themselves and their respective roles.  Feel free to ask any of the posters if they are related to Breakout Gaming and their respective roles in the company.  Thanks.

**edit** Breakout Gaming has the most transparent team in the entire crypto community.  Most of the core members are listed on our breakoutcoin.com site.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: ofortuna on October 06, 2014, 05:25:15 AM
When does ICO end?

The ICO purchase window will be 3 weeks long.  Once the purchase period starts, there will be a new countdown to the deadline.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 06, 2014, 05:54:18 AM
.
.
More info in "Innovative Game: Fantasy Crypto" in:
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/gaming-platform/

thnx for the info dude.  cant wait to test it out

Thx Mayhem007.  Me too!   :)

so when are the games going to launch?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 06, 2014, 06:37:25 AM
And you just registered to let us know it on your first post... sounds legit.

barabbas, here is my 1st post:

"I have been involved with Breakout since May, helping with poker & I have to admit - this team is an amazing collection of talent & hard work - they have to be destined for success."

Wow. Too many (anonymous) people on the team. It gets confusing...

Welcome Barabbas,

I enjoy reading your posts on the "Wall of Shame"  :D


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: barabbas on October 06, 2014, 06:39:49 AM
And you just registered to let us know it on your first post... sounds legit.

barabbas, here is my 1st post:

"I have been involved with Breakout since May, helping with poker & I have to admit - this team is an amazing collection of talent & hard work - they have to be destined for success."

Wow. Too many (anonymous) people on the team. It gets confusing...

barrabbas, we have over 40 members working on this project and many of them were unfamiliar with cryptocurrencies until joining the BRO team.  Please forgive us if there has been any confusion, most of us are trying to say hello in support of BRO.  I believe most of the team have introduced themselves and their respective roles.  Feel free to ask any of the posters if they are related to Breakout Gaming and their respective roles in the company.  Thanks.

**edit** Breakout Gaming has the most transparent team in the entire crypto community.  Most of the core members are listed on our breakoutcoin.com site.

Except for one thing: You guys use anonymous handles here... I assume you are Jay Berg. am I right? And if so -and that and every case, why not use your real names instead of anon handles?

Another thing: The whole concept of Bergstake is totally new and, to me ay least, not clearly explained either here or in the website: What exactly is Bergstake? What exactly is Bergstake in relationship to BRO? After PoW, only Bergstake -whatever it is- can mine BRO? What's the difference between BRO (virgin) and BRO "used" (purchased).

Yet another thing: A very big amount of BRO (and Bergstake, I assume) is reserved for various concepts, without any particular figure assigned to each. For instance, how much will go to developers? how much to marketing/promotion (and here the concept is even more confusing for Wells and his Soda & Lime are part of the "team", whatever that means... is it team of developers?

You are taking, if I am correct in my calculations, 67% of the entire project -a significant portion of it in advance, through the ICO- for "the team" --- and future development. But of that future development, we are left to see nothing. Of course there will be new features, but which are the aim? The coin is already energy efficient, already covers most games, most betting will be quite possible also, so what "new future features" are we talking about? The ones mentioned in the site are already available in other coins and can be copy/pasted or leased rather cheaply...

As for the "pros", what is their level of involvement? Are they just being paid for lending their name to support the project or do they have any future activity/interest? If they are simply endorsing the project, how much are they being paid and for how long are they committed?

Finally, what happens when regulation comes -and it IS coming, in the US-. I am assuming you are based in the US... What happens when gambling is prosecuted as an illegal activity in the US?

Sorry I have so many questions but I believe most people interested in buying into this project will appreciate clear answers... from real people with legal names.

Thanks in advance for those.

Edit to add: Why a censored thread?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: barabbas on October 06, 2014, 06:41:44 AM
And you just registered to let us know it on your first post... sounds legit.

barabbas, here is my 1st post:

"I have been involved with Breakout since May, helping with poker & I have to admit - this team is an amazing collection of talent & hard work - they have to be destined for success."

Wow. Too many (anonymous) people on the team. It gets confusing...

Welcome Barabbas,

I enjoy reading your posts on the "Wall of Shame"  :D

Thank you. I hope your BRO never merits one.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 06, 2014, 07:58:24 AM

Gaming In Comfort



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 06, 2014, 08:42:47 AM
And you just registered to let us know it on your first post... sounds legit.

barabbas, here is my 1st post:

"I have been involved with Breakout since May, helping with poker & I have to admit - this team is an amazing collection of talent & hard work - they have to be destined for success."

Wow. Too many (anonymous) people on the team. It gets confusing...

barrabbas, we have over 40 members working on this project and many of them were unfamiliar with cryptocurrencies until joining the BRO team.  Please forgive us if there has been any confusion, most of us are trying to say hello in support of BRO.  I believe most of the team have introduced themselves and their respective roles.  Feel free to ask any of the posters if they are related to Breakout Gaming and their respective roles in the company.  Thanks.

**edit** Breakout Gaming has the most transparent team in the entire crypto community.  Most of the core members are listed on our breakoutcoin.com site.

Yet another thing: A very big amount of BRO (and Bergstake, I assume) is reserved for various concepts, without any particular figure assigned to each. For instance, how much will go to developers? how much to marketing/promotion (and here the concept is even more confusing for Wells and his Soda & Lime are part of the "team", whatever that means... is it team of developers?

You are taking, if I am correct in my calculations, 67% of the entire project -a significant portion of it in advance, through the ICO- for "the team" --- and future development. But of that future development, we are left to see nothing. Of course there will be new features, but which are the aim? The coin is already energy efficient, already covers most games, most betting will be quite possible also, so what "new future features" are we talking about? The ones mentioned in the site are already available in other coins and can be copy/pasted or leased rather cheaply...


To clarify, the 67% only represents the first two years, in subsequent years that figure will diminish and be marginal, let us explain.
The developers, marketing pros, founders, investors, consultants, writers, design team, social media, accounting, legal, PR, etc.. all are sharing in the pool of initial 2.5 million coins.  What is the calculated pre-mine percentage over 10, 20,30 years?  In relation to the total amount of 200+ million coins to be available over time, it is a small percentage.  We wanted to be up-front and release the 2-year numbers in order for people to make their own judgement fairly as to whether or not they wanted to invest in the project and if the talent and team assembled for the project warrants it.

In the beginning of the project, we had a very difficult time persuading top talent to join our team in exchange for “virtual” coins or computer code.  You can imagine how that conversation went?  We were able to compensate a lot of the talent for far less than what they would normally accept because eventually, they believed in the marriage of gaming and cryptocurrency.  

The 4.5 million BRO that is being offered in the "coin sale" will primarily go to market the coin and the gaming platform.  Establishing BRO as a leader in the gaming community will be our top priority.  There will be costs associated with maintaining a development staff and operations, but money will be poured into marketing.  Keep in mind, there has already been substantial monetary investments into the project, developing software, legal, gaming staff, creative design and social media campaigns, etc..  This will be an International Gaming project in scope. The amount of traffic we are planning to drive to our platforms has previously never been seen before in the crypto space.
 
We feel strongly that in order for a coin to survive, there needs to be a huge market that drives demand and liquidity for the coin (maybe a bad example, but think Silk Road and what it did for Bitcoin's price at the time).  At present, over 50% of all crypto transactions are related to gaming and the inherent properties of cryptocurrencies makes it a perfect match.  Gaming is now a $40B market and Breakout Gaming is poised to bring cryptocurrency iGaming to the masses.

Until now, the entire crypto gaming space has been severely limited to grey market businesses.  Breakout Gaming will be the first to be legally licensed and regulated in all the jurisdictions that we offer our suite of games.  This allows us to accept “fiat” payment processing and acquire banking services that unlicensed gaming businesses are denied. “Fiat” payment processing and banking is important because it opens up the entire world to market our products by allowing easy access to buy chips/credits denominated in cryptocurrencies.

The 7 million giveaway allotment of coins will be used to reward the crypto community with referral incentives, player bonuses, freerolls, etc… The entire distribution schedule is available on our breakoutcoin.com site in detail. This distribution model will allow us to distribute BRO to a wide and diverse group of people that will ultimately help support and provide liquidity for the BRO market.  The 7 million coins are a pre-mine, but by the end of the 2 year PoW period, we will have completely given away the entire pool to the crypto and iGaming community.

Disclaimer: Breakout Coin and Breakout Gaming are two separate services/entities.  Breakout Coin is offering BRO coins for btc. By participating in this "coin sale," you are not purchasing interest in Breakout Gaming.  You are solely participating in the "coin sale" of a crypto coin that happens to have a gaming company that supports the BRO coin by having their chips denominated in the BRO crypto coin.

As specified in the first paragraph in the Terms and Conditions:

WARNING:  Do not purchase BRO if you are not an expert in crypto tokens or currency and blockchain technology.

This coin sale is not an offer of investment or securities in any business, venture, or company, or in any form of gaming operations or activity; purchase of BRO does not entitle the buyer to any interest in any profits or revenue of any common enterprise arising from the activities of others.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 06, 2014, 09:50:16 AM
And you just registered to let us know it on your first post... sounds legit.

barabbas, here is my 1st post:

"I have been involved with Breakout since May, helping with poker & I have to admit - this team is an amazing collection of talent & hard work - they have to be destined for success."

Wow. Too many (anonymous) people on the team. It gets confusing...

barrabbas, we have over 40 members working on this project and many of them were unfamiliar with cryptocurrencies until joining the BRO team.  Please forgive us if there has been any confusion, most of us are trying to say hello in support of BRO.  I believe most of the team have introduced themselves and their respective roles.  Feel free to ask any of the posters if they are related to Breakout Gaming and their respective roles in the company.  Thanks.

**edit** Breakout Gaming has the most transparent team in the entire crypto community.  Most of the core members are listed on our breakoutcoin.com site.

Except for one thing: You guys use anonymous handles here... I assume you are Jay Berg. am I right? And if so -and that and every case, why not use your real names instead of anon handles?

Edit to add: Why a censored thread?


barrabbas,  this thread is handled by multiple support staff in order to answer questions and respond to posts such as yours in a timely manner. Some of the members have introduced themselves and others have created new accounts to show support.  If a member wants to create an account using his legal name, we are leaving the decision up to each individual.  The names of very prominent people on our team that have been made public should speak for the credibility of the project.  Please follow the links to the core team members profile pages.

http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/the-team/
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/all-stars/

Why a censored thread?

While we believe in free speech, we do not believe an individual has a right to deliberately use that freedom with the sole intent to cause harm. This type of answer has been explained more eloquently by others as argument of a moderated thread, so no need to get into a long answer.  We do understand that there are those who feel moderated threads are unnecessary.  




Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: ofortuna on October 06, 2014, 09:55:26 AM
http://i.imgur.com/D4ATze7.jpg?1


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 06, 2014, 10:23:12 AM
And you just registered to let us know it on your first post... sounds legit.

barabbas, here is my 1st post:

"I have been involved with Breakout since May, helping with poker & I have to admit - this team is an amazing collection of talent & hard work - they have to be destined for success."

Wow. Too many (anonymous) people on the team. It gets confusing...

barrabbas, we have over 40 members working on this project and many of them were unfamiliar with cryptocurrencies until joining the BRO team.  Please forgive us if there has been any confusion, most of us are trying to say hello in support of BRO.  I believe most of the team have introduced themselves and their respective roles.  Feel free to ask any of the posters if they are related to Breakout Gaming and their respective roles in the company.  Thanks.

**edit** Breakout Gaming has the most transparent team in the entire crypto community.  Most of the core members are listed on our breakoutcoin.com site.

(and here the concept is even more confusing for Wells and his Soda & Lime are part of the "team", whatever that means... is it team of developers?


As for the "pros", what is their level of involvement? Are they just being paid for lending their name to support the project or do they have any future activity/interest? If they are simply endorsing the project, how much are they being paid and for how long are they committed?

Finally, what happens when regulation comes -and it IS coming, in the US-. I am assuming you are based in the US... What happens when gambling is prosecuted as an illegal activity in the US?


Bonner Bellew and Joshua Wells and their newly formed Soda & Lime is responsible for our Creative Design and Social Media outlets.  When we mention “team” we are talking about anyone who has contributed to the project.  Sorry about the confusion.

Each “Marketing Pro” has their individual deal and not available for disclosure on a public forum.  However, I can tell you they are all committed to the project entirely and believe in the future of cryptocurrency (although not all have extensive knowledge of crypto tech  ::) ). All the pros will be participating for the long-term foreseeable future (hint: marketing agreements) with the promotion of the BRO coin and gaming sites.  Gamers will get a chance to play with the “pros” in freeroll tournaments and “live” games when available. While the marketing pros are used to large 6-7 figure compensation, we feel very fortunate we were able to persuade them to join our team with only BRO and a dream.  

As mentioned in a previous post, Breakout Gaming will be positioned to address both players’ desire for privacy and regulators demand to meet both KYC and AML rules.  Breakout Gaming separates itself from typical crypto gaming sites by making sure that its games and features will only be deployed in “legal-to-play” markets.

We are also adding new members to our "pro team" as Brand Ambassadors.  Do you have what it takes to be a top gaming pro? Do you Dominate your opponents? If you are a world-class eSports competitor, Poker phenom or feared Fantasy sports pro and interested in opportunities as a Breakout Brand Ambassador, please contact us at team@breakoutgaming.com.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 06, 2014, 10:53:13 AM
The last sentence got me  ;D

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/17851-man-saved-by-slot-machine-as-police-were-about-to-arrest-him-over-unpaid-fine (http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/17851-man-saved-by-slot-machine-as-police-were-about-to-arrest-him-over-unpaid-fine)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: barabbas on October 06, 2014, 04:16:55 PM
And you just registered to let us know it on your first post... sounds legit.

barabbas, here is my 1st post:

"I have been involved with Breakout since May, helping with poker & I have to admit - this team is an amazing collection of talent & hard work - they have to be destined for success."

Wow. Too many (anonymous) people on the team. It gets confusing...

barrabbas, we have over 40 members working on this project and many of them were unfamiliar with cryptocurrencies until joining the BRO team.  Please forgive us if there has been any confusion, most of us are trying to say hello in support of BRO.  I believe most of the team have introduced themselves and their respective roles.  Feel free to ask any of the posters if they are related to Breakout Gaming and their respective roles in the company.  Thanks.

**edit** Breakout Gaming has the most transparent team in the entire crypto community.  Most of the core members are listed on our breakoutcoin.com site.

Except for one thing: You guys use anonymous handles here... I assume you are Jay Berg. am I right? And if so -and that and every case, why not use your real names instead of anon handles?

Edit to add: Why a censored thread?


barrabbas,  this thread is handled by multiple support staff in order to answer questions and respond to posts such as yours in a timely manner. Some of the members have introduced themselves and others have created new accounts to show support.  If a member wants to create an account using his legal name, we are leaving the decision up to each individual.  The names of very prominent people on our team that have been made public should speak for the credibility of the project.  Please follow the links to the core team members profile pages.

http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/the-team/
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/all-stars/

Why a censored thread?

While we believe in free speech, we do not believe an individual has a right to deliberately use that freedom with the sole intent to cause harm. This type of answer has been explained more eloquently by others as argument of a moderated thread, so no need to get into a long answer.  We do understand that there are those who feel moderated threads are unnecessary.  




You cannot have it both ways. The ONLY reason to have a censored thread is to de facto eliminate freedom of speech and there's no legitimate way to justify it.

No "ifs' no "buts".


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 06, 2014, 04:51:46 PM
Quote
Except for one thing: You guys use anonymous handles here... I assume you are Jay Berg. am I right? And if so -and that and every case, why not use your real names instead of anon handles?
I am Jay Berg and my handle is jaybny. I dont use any other handle, I do help out OP with html, so I am able to post as BreakoutCoin , but for the most part im jaybny.

Quote
Edit to add: Why a censored thread?
its a self-moderated thread, and I dont believe any posts are being deleted. There are many reasons for a moderated thread, and is common practice for announcements. Please feel free to start a new thread on the topic, which wont be moderated.

In the PRE-ANN thread,  there was a scammers impersonating "breakoutCoin" by adding an "s" , breakoutcoins, and he posted a bitcoin address and was trying to scam, this is the reason for a self-moderated thread. 


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: barabbas on October 06, 2014, 04:58:19 PM
And you just registered to let us know it on your first post... sounds legit.

barabbas, here is my 1st post:

"I have been involved with Breakout since May, helping with poker & I have to admit - this team is an amazing collection of talent & hard work - they have to be destined for success."

Wow. Too many (anonymous) people on the team. It gets confusing...

barrabbas, we have over 40 members working on this project and many of them were unfamiliar with cryptocurrencies until joining the BRO team.  Please forgive us if there has been any confusion, most of us are trying to say hello in support of BRO.  I believe most of the team have introduced themselves and their respective roles.  Feel free to ask any of the posters if they are related to Breakout Gaming and their respective roles in the company.  Thanks.

**edit** Breakout Gaming has the most transparent team in the entire crypto community.  Most of the core members are listed on our breakoutcoin.com site.

(and here the concept is even more confusing for Wells and his Soda & Lime are part of the "team", whatever that means... is it team of developers?


As for the "pros", what is their level of involvement? Are they just being paid for lending their name to support the project or do they have any future activity/interest? If they are simply endorsing the project, how much are they being paid and for how long are they committed?

Finally, what happens when regulation comes -and it IS coming, in the US-. I am assuming you are based in the US... What happens when gambling is prosecuted as an illegal activity in the US?


Bonner Bellew and Joshua Wells and their newly formed Soda & Lime is responsible for our Creative Design and Social Media outlets.  When we mention “team” we are talking about anyone who has contributed to the project.  Sorry about the confusion.

Each “Marketing Pro” has their individual deal and not available for disclosure on a public forum.  However, I can tell you they are all committed to the project entirely and believe in the future of cryptocurrency (although not all have extensive knowledge of crypto tech  ::) ). All the pros will be participating for the long-term foreseeable future (hint: marketing agreements) with the promotion of the BRO coin and gaming sites.  Gamers will get a chance to play with the “pros” in freeroll tournaments and “live” games when available. While the marketing pros are used to large 6-7 figure compensation, we feel very fortunate we were able to persuade them to join our team with only BRO and a dream.  

As mentioned in a previous post, Breakout Gaming will be positioned to address both players’ desire for privacy and regulators demand to meet both KYC and AML rules.  Breakout Gaming separates itself from typical crypto gaming sites by making sure that its games and features will only be deployed in “legal-to-play” markets.

We are also adding new members to our "pro team" as Brand Ambassadors.  Do you have what it takes to be a top gaming pro? Do you Dominate your opponents? If you are a world-class eSports competitor, Poker phenom or feared Fantasy sports pro and interested in opportunities as a Breakout Brand Ambassador, please contact us at team@breakoutgaming.com.


In other words, zero transparency in effect, since not even you are willing to identify yourself and prefer to remain hidden behind the handle. Check.

No amount of caustic rhetoric will dim the fact that, in most of the US, gambling is illegal. And federally prosecuted. By several agencies, more notably the FBI. So, to be quite clear, except for residents of Nevada and Atlantic City, gambling in your sites will be an illegal activity no matter where your sites are registered in. Digital currencies themselves are already regulated in New York, with much more coming in there and everywhere so this gambling operation, as far as the US is concerned, is a non-viable enterprise.

The "pro" endorsement/marketing plan... well, these "celebrities" are so, in a quickly diminishing way, in the world of poker ONLY. And not nearly the cream of the crop in that world either. The poker tour has been demoted to "infomercial TV time" already for a long time. And the "endorsements" these "pros" can get these days are nil. None... since the best ones they used to have years ago were for "gaming websites" that have gradually disappeared to federal prosecution and the remaining ones being shot down one at a time... regardless where, geographically, they are based. So the actual value of that support is doubtful at best.

There is also still no explanation of what Bergstake is (in a comprehensible way, I mean) but, at this point, in what concerns me, it is no longer necessary for I don't consider your project to be viable, sorry.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: barabbas on October 06, 2014, 05:00:29 PM
Quote
Except for one thing: You guys use anonymous handles here... I assume you are Jay Berg. am I right? And if so -and that and every case, why not use your real names instead of anon handles?
I am Jay Berg and my handle is jaybny. I dont use any other handle, I do help out OP with html, so I am able to post as BreakoutCoin , but for the most part im jaybny.

Quote
Edit to add: Why a censored thread?
its a self-moderated thread, and I dont believe any posts are being deleted. There are many reasons for a moderated thread, and is common practice for announcements. Please feel free to start a new thread on the topic, which wont be moderated.

In the PRE-ANN thread,  there was a scammers impersonating "breakoutCoin" by adding an "s" , breakoutcoins, and he posted a bitcoin address and was trying to scam, this is the reason for a self-moderated thread. 

Thanks for answering and identifying yourself Jay.

The excuses for the censored thread are just not serious, sorry.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 06, 2014, 05:01:54 PM
Quote
Except for one thing: You guys use anonymous handles here... I assume you are Jay Berg. am I right? And if so -and that and every case, why not use your real names instead of anon handles?
I am Jay Berg and my handle is jaybny. I dont use any other handle, I do help out OP with html, so I am able to post as BreakoutCoin , but for the most part im jaybny.

Quote
Edit to add: Why a censored thread?
its a self-moderated thread, and I dont believe any posts are being deleted. There are many reasons for a moderated thread, and is common practice for announcements. Please feel free to start a new thread on the topic, which wont be moderated.

In the PRE-ANN thread,  there was a scammers impersonating "breakoutCoin" by adding an "s" , breakoutcoins, and he posted a bitcoin address and was trying to scam, this is the reason for a self-moderated thread. 

Thanks for answering and identifying yourself Jay.

The excuses for the censored thread are just not serious, sorry.
but it hasn't been censored. 



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: barabbas on October 06, 2014, 05:03:46 PM
Quote
Except for one thing: You guys use anonymous handles here... I assume you are Jay Berg. am I right? And if so -and that and every case, why not use your real names instead of anon handles?
I am Jay Berg and my handle is jaybny. I dont use any other handle, I do help out OP with html, so I am able to post as BreakoutCoin , but for the most part im jaybny.

Quote
Edit to add: Why a censored thread?
its a self-moderated thread, and I dont believe any posts are being deleted. There are many reasons for a moderated thread, and is common practice for announcements. Please feel free to start a new thread on the topic, which wont be moderated.

In the PRE-ANN thread,  there was a scammers impersonating "breakoutCoin" by adding an "s" , breakoutcoins, and he posted a bitcoin address and was trying to scam, this is the reason for a self-moderated thread. 

Thanks for answering and identifying yourself Jay.

The excuses for the censored thread are just not serious, sorry.
but it hasn't been censored. 



It will be. There's no other purpose to it.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 06, 2014, 05:06:31 PM
Quote
Except for one thing: You guys use anonymous handles here... I assume you are Jay Berg. am I right? And if so -and that and every case, why not use your real names instead of anon handles?
I am Jay Berg and my handle is jaybny. I dont use any other handle, I do help out OP with html, so I am able to post as BreakoutCoin , but for the most part im jaybny.

Quote
Edit to add: Why a censored thread?
its a self-moderated thread, and I dont believe any posts are being deleted. There are many reasons for a moderated thread, and is common practice for announcements. Please feel free to start a new thread on the topic, which wont be moderated.

In the PRE-ANN thread,  there was a scammers impersonating "breakoutCoin" by adding an "s" , breakoutcoins, and he posted a bitcoin address and was trying to scam, this is the reason for a self-moderated thread. 

Thanks for answering and identifying yourself Jay.

The excuses for the censored thread are just not serious, sorry.
but it hasn't been censored. 



It will be. There's no other purpose to it.

i disagree. its good practice to self-moderate an "official" ICO thread. 


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: barabbas on October 06, 2014, 05:21:54 PM
Quote
Except for one thing: You guys use anonymous handles here... I assume you are Jay Berg. am I right? And if so -and that and every case, why not use your real names instead of anon handles?
I am Jay Berg and my handle is jaybny. I dont use any other handle, I do help out OP with html, so I am able to post as BreakoutCoin , but for the most part im jaybny.

Quote
Edit to add: Why a censored thread?
its a self-moderated thread, and I dont believe any posts are being deleted. There are many reasons for a moderated thread, and is common practice for announcements. Please feel free to start a new thread on the topic, which wont be moderated.

In the PRE-ANN thread,  there was a scammers impersonating "breakoutCoin" by adding an "s" , breakoutcoins, and he posted a bitcoin address and was trying to scam, this is the reason for a self-moderated thread. 

Thanks for answering and identifying yourself Jay.

The excuses for the censored thread are just not serious, sorry.
but it hasn't been censored. 



It will be. There's no other purpose to it.

i disagree. its good practice to self-moderate an "official" ICO thread. 


Oh and, by the way, at least one post has been deleted. Peculiarly enough, one that has been repeatedly quoted (by you, among others), before deletion. Go figure.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 06, 2014, 05:30:20 PM
Quote
Oh and, by the way, at least one post has been deleted. Peculiarly enough, one that has been repeatedly quoted (by you, among others), before deletion. Go figure.
ok. now your just spreading FUD. op said it can be deleted because its off topic... bottom line, no-one is trying to hide anything. why would I quote a post im trying to hide?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: barabbas on October 06, 2014, 05:34:25 PM
Quote
Oh and, by the way, at least one post has been deleted. Peculiarly enough, one that has been repeatedly quoted (by you, among others), before deletion. Go figure.
ok. now your just spreading FUD. op said it can be deleted because its off topic... bottom line, no-one is trying to hide anything. why would I quote a post im trying to hide?

That's what makes it peculiar... And the post was quite on topic. Check it for yourself, it's at the very beginning (first page). You guys fully quote the post but have actually deleted it.

Ah the ubiquitous FUD... you can just go right ahead and delete my uncomfortable posts with all those pesky questions. The FUD excuse is old, very old.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: Anonz on October 06, 2014, 05:51:42 PM
well this can turn good.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 06, 2014, 05:51:52 PM
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Oh and, by the way, at least one post has been deleted. Peculiarly enough, one that has been repeatedly quoted (by you, among others), before deletion. Go figure.
ok. now your just spreading FUD. op said it can be deleted because its off topic... bottom line, no-one is trying to hide anything. why would I quote a post im trying to hide?

That's what makes it peculiar... And the post was quite on topic. Check it for yourself, it's at the very beginning (first page). You guys fully quote the post but have actually deleted it.

Ah the ubiquitous FUD... you can just go right ahead and delete my uncomfortable posts with all those pesky questions. The FUD excuse is old, very old.
seriously move one...  that quote was from a different thread, that was replaced with this one.  just move on, your really off base here. nothing is being censored.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=808595.msg9060864#msg9060864


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Post by: Gutshot_Cal on October 06, 2014, 05:57:40 PM
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Except for one thing: You guys use anonymous handles here... I assume you are Jay Berg. am I right? And if so -and that and every case, why not use your real names instead of anon handles?
I am Jay Berg and my handle is jaybny. I dont use any other handle, I do help out OP with html, so I am able to post as BreakoutCoin , but for the most part im jaybny.

Quote
Edit to add: Why a censored thread?
its a self-moderated thread, and I dont believe any posts are being deleted. There are many reasons for a moderated thread, and is common practice for announcements. Please feel free to start a new thread on the topic, which wont be moderated.

In the PRE-ANN thread,  there was a scammers impersonating "breakoutCoin" by adding an "s" , breakoutcoins, and he posted a bitcoin address and was trying to scam, this is the reason for a self-moderated thread. 

Thanks for answering and identifying yourself Jay.

The excuses for the censored thread are just not serious, sorry.
but it hasn't been censored. 



Yes it has.  Several posts linking to old stories about some of the poker players were deleted.  So was my first post here, asking why.  I'm new to crypto. 


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Post by: brother3 on October 06, 2014, 06:04:48 PM
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Except for one thing: You guys use anonymous handles here... I assume you are Jay Berg. am I right? And if so -and that and every case, why not use your real names instead of anon handles?
I am Jay Berg and my handle is jaybny. I dont use any other handle, I do help out OP with html, so I am able to post as BreakoutCoin , but for the most part im jaybny.

Quote
Edit to add: Why a censored thread?
its a self-moderated thread, and I dont believe any posts are being deleted. There are many reasons for a moderated thread, and is common practice for announcements. Please feel free to start a new thread on the topic, which wont be moderated.

In the PRE-ANN thread,  there was a scammers impersonating "breakoutCoin" by adding an "s" , breakoutcoins, and he posted a bitcoin address and was trying to scam, this is the reason for a self-moderated thread.  

Thanks for answering and identifying yourself Jay.

The excuses for the censored thread are just not serious, sorry.
but it hasn't been censored.  



Yes it has.  Several posts linking to old stories about some of the poker players were deleted.  So was my first post here, asking why.  I'm new to crypto.  


Random drive-by, NEWLY created troll accounts will not be tolerated.  Legitimate questions will always be answered.  



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Post by: ofortuna on October 06, 2014, 06:11:55 PM
Hello,

I have been consulting with Breakout Gaming regarding the post-ICO business model, which will be a legal, licensed operator, with offerings across igaming markets , and across a variety of games.

Feel free to ask about the gaming business to be launched, and its unique features to support BRO, one that will serve post-ICO to bring in traditional fiat gamers to the BRO economy.  

David

Will you offer poker and casino to clients in USA?? That's probably the most important question??If not there is a little value in the project

I tend to disagree with your business analysis for a variety of reasons:

1. There is a big gaming world outside the US, so finding "value" only in terms of the US markets is somewhat artificially limiting the scope of gaming opportunities.

2. In any event, there are business models and gaming channels available to US residents that can be offered.  Breakout will be offering as many varieties of gaming as it can, legally (and profitably) , across US State markets, including fantasy games, skill games and the like.

3. A open-ended term like "poker and casino" also tends to cover more ground than may be intended in your question. There even are many variants of poker and casino models offered legally to US customers as well.  None of them do much to promote cryptocurrency adoption or offer prizing in crypto.



Gzesh covers US markets earlier.  I also quoted his introduction.

http://i.imgur.com/tS0PbNV.jpg?1


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Post by: jaybny on October 06, 2014, 06:21:10 PM
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Yes it has.  Several posts linking to old stories about some of the poker players were deleted.  So was my first post here, asking why.  I'm new to crypto.  

this is news to me.

please use this thread for anything goes discussions:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=813333



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Post by: Sons_of_Crypto on October 06, 2014, 06:33:41 PM
Will watch this one!


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Post by: barabbas on October 06, 2014, 06:35:30 PM
Hello,

I have been consulting with Breakout Gaming regarding the post-ICO business model, which will be a legal, licensed operator, with offerings across igaming markets , and across a variety of games.

Feel free to ask about the gaming business to be launched, and its unique features to support BRO, one that will serve post-ICO to bring in traditional fiat gamers to the BRO economy.  

David

Will you offer poker and casino to clients in USA?? That's probably the most important question??If not there is a little value in the project

I tend to disagree with your business analysis for a variety of reasons:

1. There is a big gaming world outside the US, so finding "value" only in terms of the US markets is somewhat artificially limiting the scope of gaming opportunities.

2. In any event, there are business models and gaming channels available to US residents that can be offered.  Breakout will be offering as many varieties of gaming as it can, legally (and profitably) , across US State markets, including fantasy games, skill games and the like.

3. A open-ended term like "poker and casino" also tends to cover more ground than may be intended in your question. There even are many variants of poker and casino models offered legally to US customers as well.  None of them do much to promote cryptocurrency adoption or offer prizing in crypto.



Gzesh covers US markets earlier.  I also quoted his introduction.

http://i.imgur.com/tS0PbNV.jpg?1

With all due respect for Mr. Gzesh's knowledge, this is THE LAW: https://www.fdic.gov/news/news/financial/2010/fil10035a.pdf

Additionally, I am quite sure Mr. Gzesh is aware of the outcome of the federal prosecution of PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker and Absolute Poker.


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Post by: jaybny on October 06, 2014, 06:43:44 PM
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Except for one thing: You guys use anonymous handles here... I assume you are Jay Berg. am I right? And if so -and that and every case, why not use your real names instead of anon handles?
I am Jay Berg and my handle is jaybny. I dont use any other handle, I do help out OP with html, so I am able to post as BreakoutCoin , but for the most part im jaybny.

Quote
Edit to add: Why a censored thread?
its a self-moderated thread, and I dont believe any posts are being deleted. There are many reasons for a moderated thread, and is common practice for announcements. Please feel free to start a new thread on the topic, which wont be moderated.

In the PRE-ANN thread,  there was a scammers impersonating "breakoutCoin" by adding an "s" , breakoutcoins, and he posted a bitcoin address and was trying to scam, this is the reason for a self-moderated thread. 

Thanks for answering and identifying yourself Jay.

The excuses for the censored thread are just not serious, sorry.
but it hasn't been censored. 



Yes it has.  Several posts linking to old stories about some of the poker players were deleted.  So was my first post here, asking why.  I'm new to crypto. 

so your new to cryto, and this is your first question? you must be a fast learner.


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Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 06, 2014, 06:43:58 PM
Hello,

I have been consulting with Breakout Gaming regarding the post-ICO business model, which will be a legal, licensed operator, with offerings across igaming markets , and across a variety of games.

Feel free to ask about the gaming business to be launched, and its unique features to support BRO, one that will serve post-ICO to bring in traditional fiat gamers to the BRO economy.  

David

Will you offer poker and casino to clients in USA?? That's probably the most important question??If not there is a little value in the project

I tend to disagree with your business analysis for a variety of reasons:

1. There is a big gaming world outside the US, so finding "value" only in terms of the US markets is somewhat artificially limiting the scope of gaming opportunities.

2. In any event, there are business models and gaming channels available to US residents that can be offered.  Breakout will be offering as many varieties of gaming as it can, legally (and profitably) , across US State markets, including fantasy games, skill games and the like.

3. A open-ended term like "poker and casino" also tends to cover more ground than may be intended in your question. There even are many variants of poker and casino models offered legally to US customers as well.  None of them do much to promote cryptocurrency adoption or offer prizing in crypto.



Gzesh covers US markets earlier.  I also quoted his introduction.

http://i.imgur.com/tS0PbNV.jpg?1

With all due respect for Mr. Gzesh's knowledge, this is THE LAW: https://www.fdic.gov/news/news/financial/2010/fil10035a.pdf

Additionally, I am quite sure Mr. Gzesh is aware of the outcome of the federal prosecution of PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker and Absolute Poker.

This has been written repeatedly, We are only offering our games in LEGAL-TO-PLAY markets.   ???   In the US only Fantasy Sports/Skill games will be available.  


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Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 06, 2014, 06:48:33 PM
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Except for one thing: You guys use anonymous handles here... I assume you are Jay Berg. am I right? And if so -and that and every case, why not use your real names instead of anon handles?
I am Jay Berg and my handle is jaybny. I dont use any other handle, I do help out OP with html, so I am able to post as BreakoutCoin , but for the most part im jaybny.

Quote
Edit to add: Why a censored thread?
its a self-moderated thread, and I dont believe any posts are being deleted. There are many reasons for a moderated thread, and is common practice for announcements. Please feel free to start a new thread on the topic, which wont be moderated.

In the PRE-ANN thread,  there was a scammers impersonating "breakoutCoin" by adding an "s" , breakoutcoins, and he posted a bitcoin address and was trying to scam, this is the reason for a self-moderated thread. 

Thanks for answering and identifying yourself Jay.

The excuses for the censored thread are just not serious, sorry.
but it hasn't been censored. 



Yes it has.  Several posts linking to old stories about some of the poker players were deleted.  So was my first post here, asking why.  I'm new to crypto. 

NEWLY created FUD accounts specifically created with the intention of spreading FUD and doing harm will be deleted.  Regardless, we still answered all the questions in a following post.


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Post by: JakeThePanda on October 06, 2014, 06:50:11 PM


Additionally, I am quite sure Mr. Gzesh is aware of the outcome of the federal prosecution of PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker and Absolute Poker.

They have already stated that poker won't be available to the U.S.  Trust me, I remembered.  >:(


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Post by: barabbas on October 06, 2014, 06:58:51 PM


Additionally, I am quite sure Mr. Gzesh is aware of the outcome of the federal prosecution of PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker and Absolute Poker.

They have already stated that poker won't be available to the U.S.  Trust me, I remembered.  >:(

I believe clarity benefits everyone: Not only poker but any kind of bet for money whatsoever, would be illegal in ALL of the United States and related territories.


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Post by: JakeThePanda on October 06, 2014, 07:03:31 PM


Additionally, I am quite sure Mr. Gzesh is aware of the outcome of the federal prosecution of PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker and Absolute Poker.

They have already stated that poker won't be available to the U.S.  Trust me, I remembered.  >:(

I believe clarity benefits everyone: Not only poker but any kind of bet for money whatsoever, would be illegal in ALL of the United States and related territories.

Yeah, well the US gov't is doing such a good job at arresting anyone.  I've been playing poker and sports betting on Bodog (Bovada) for years and Calvin Ayre is still partying it up as a free man.  :D  Nobody actually did any prison time from the PS, FTP,AP event. Howard Lederer is still playing in the WSOP FFS.  :D


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Post by: barabbas on October 06, 2014, 07:10:03 PM


Additionally, I am quite sure Mr. Gzesh is aware of the outcome of the federal prosecution of PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker and Absolute Poker.

They have already stated that poker won't be available to the U.S.  Trust me, I remembered.  >:(

I believe clarity benefits everyone: Not only poker but any kind of bet for money whatsoever, would be illegal in ALL of the United States and related territories.

Yeah, well the US gov't is doing such a good job at arresting anyone.  I've been playing poker and sports betting on Bodog (Bovada) for years and Calvin Ayre is still partying it up as a free man.  :D  Nobody actually did any prison time from the PS, FTP,AP event. Howard Lederer is still playing in the WSOP FFS.  :D

Everyone knows that "crimes of money" (and many times others too) don't automatically mean prison in the US... unless you are poor. But it shut their business and cost them $731 million to avoid the bars... I doubt this project can afford to even contemplate such an outcome but then again what do I know?

You, on the other hand, own all of PESA already ...


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Post by: barabbas on October 06, 2014, 07:15:47 PM
We wouldn't want investors in BRO to lose 20 BTC, would we?

But you are right, sorry for the off topic.


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Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 06, 2014, 07:16:34 PM


Additionally, I am quite sure Mr. Gzesh is aware of the outcome of the federal prosecution of PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker and Absolute Poker.

They have already stated that poker won't be available to the U.S.  Trust me, I remembered.  >:(

I believe clarity benefits everyone: Not only poker but any kind of bet for money whatsoever, would be illegal in ALL of the United States and related territories.

Breakout Gaming is an official member of the Fantasy Sports Trade Association (FSTA), along with such companies such as CBS sports, Directv, Microsoft,  NFL, etc..  

http://fsta.site-ym.com/?page=FSandGambling

WHY FANTASY SPORTS IS NOT GAMBLING
It's A Game of Skill

Fantasy sports leagues are games of skill. Managers must take into account a myriad of statistics, facts and game theory in order to be competitive. There are thousands of websites, magazines and other such publications that seek to synthesize the vast amounts of available fantasy sports information to keep their readers informed and competitive. A manager must know more than simple depth charts and statistics to win; they also must to take into account injuries, coaching styles, weather patterns, prospects, home and away statistics, and many other pieces of information in order to be a successful fantasy sports manager.


The highest level competition of fantasy sports games (such as the National Fantasy Baseball Championship at http://nfbc.stats.com) routinely sees top players win games more frequently than if the contests were random or highly based on chance. It's a pattern that has been repeated with many fantasy sports contests and competitions: the highly skilled fantasy player wins more frequently.



The Federal government Does Not Define Fantasy Sports As Gambling.

The Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006 included "carve out" language that clarified the legality of fantasy sports. It was passed by Congress and signed into law on October 13, 2006 by President George W. Bush. The act makes transactions from banks or similar institutions to online gambling sites illegal, with the notable exceptions of fantasy sports, online lotteries and horse/harness racing.


The bill specifically exempts fantasy sports games, educational games or any online contest that "has an outcome that reflects the relative knowledge of the participants, or their skill at physical reaction or physical manipulation (but not chance), and, in the case of a fantasy or simulation sports game, has an outcome that is determined predominantly by accumulated statistical results of sporting events, including any non-participant's individual performances in such sporting events..."




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Post by: barabbas on October 06, 2014, 07:27:26 PM


Additionally, I am quite sure Mr. Gzesh is aware of the outcome of the federal prosecution of PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker and Absolute Poker.

They have already stated that poker won't be available to the U.S.  Trust me, I remembered.  >:(

I believe clarity benefits everyone: Not only poker but any kind of bet for money whatsoever, would be illegal in ALL of the United States and related territories.

Breakout Gaming is an official member of the Fantasy Sports Trade Association (FSTA), along with such companies such as CBS sports, Directv, Microsoft,  NFL, etc..  

http://fsta.site-ym.com/?page=FSandGambling

WHY FANTASY SPORTS IS NOT GAMBLING
It's A Game of Skill

Fantasy sports leagues are games of skill. Managers must take into account a myriad of statistics, facts and game theory in order to be competitive. There are thousands of websites, magazines and other such publications that seek to synthesize the vast amounts of available fantasy sports information to keep their readers informed and competitive. A manager must know more than simple depth charts and statistics to win; they also must to take into account injuries, coaching styles, weather patterns, prospects, home and away statistics, and many other pieces of information in order to be a successful fantasy sports manager.


The highest level competition of fantasy sports games (such as the National Fantasy Baseball Championship at http://nfbc.stats.com) routinely sees top players win games more frequently than if the contests were random or highly based on chance. It's a pattern that has been repeated with many fantasy sports contests and competitions: the highly skilled fantasy player wins more frequently.



The Federal government Does Not Define Fantasy Sports As Gambling.

The Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006 included "carve out" language that clarified the legality of fantasy sports. It was passed by Congress and signed into law on October 13, 2006 by President George W. Bush. The act makes transactions from banks or similar institutions to online gambling sites illegal, with the notable exceptions of fantasy sports, online lotteries and horse/harness racing.


The bill specifically exempts fantasy sports games, educational games or any online contest that "has an outcome that reflects the relative knowledge of the participants, or their skill at physical reaction or physical manipulation (but not chance), and, in the case of a fantasy or simulation sports game, has an outcome that is determined predominantly by accumulated statistical results of sporting events, including any non-participant's individual performances in such sporting events..."




There are several states in the US where Fantasy Sports -with entry fee- is or may be considered gambling, therefore illegal. Specifically Arizona, Iowa, Louisiana, Montana and Washington.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 06, 2014, 07:32:15 PM


Additionally, I am quite sure Mr. Gzesh is aware of the outcome of the federal prosecution of PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker and Absolute Poker.

They have already stated that poker won't be available to the U.S.  Trust me, I remembered.  >:(

I believe clarity benefits everyone: Not only poker but any kind of bet for money whatsoever, would be illegal in ALL of the United States and related territories.

Breakout Gaming is an official member of the Fantasy Sports Trade Association (FSTA), along with such companies such as CBS sports, Directv, Microsoft,  NFL, etc..  

http://fsta.site-ym.com/?page=FSandGambling

WHY FANTASY SPORTS IS NOT GAMBLING
It's A Game of Skill

Fantasy sports leagues are games of skill. Managers must take into account a myriad of statistics, facts and game theory in order to be competitive. There are thousands of websites, magazines and other such publications that seek to synthesize the vast amounts of available fantasy sports information to keep their readers informed and competitive. A manager must know more than simple depth charts and statistics to win; they also must to take into account injuries, coaching styles, weather patterns, prospects, home and away statistics, and many other pieces of information in order to be a successful fantasy sports manager.


The highest level competition of fantasy sports games (such as the National Fantasy Baseball Championship at http://nfbc.stats.com) routinely sees top players win games more frequently than if the contests were random or highly based on chance. It's a pattern that has been repeated with many fantasy sports contests and competitions: the highly skilled fantasy player wins more frequently.



The Federal government Does Not Define Fantasy Sports As Gambling.

The Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006 included "carve out" language that clarified the legality of fantasy sports. It was passed by Congress and signed into law on October 13, 2006 by President George W. Bush. The act makes transactions from banks or similar institutions to online gambling sites illegal, with the notable exceptions of fantasy sports, online lotteries and horse/harness racing.


The bill specifically exempts fantasy sports games, educational games or any online contest that "has an outcome that reflects the relative knowledge of the participants, or their skill at physical reaction or physical manipulation (but not chance), and, in the case of a fantasy or simulation sports game, has an outcome that is determined predominantly by accumulated statistical results of sporting events, including any non-participant's individual performances in such sporting events..."




There are several states in the US where Fantasy Sports -with entry fee- is or may be considered gambling, therefore illegal. Specifically Arizona, Iowa, Louisiana, Montana and Washington.

Thank you.  Yes, in certain states, Fantasy Sports/Skill games will not be available.  We will only be offering our games in LEGAL-TO-PLAY markets.


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Post by: brother3 on October 06, 2014, 08:57:44 PM
Will watch this one!

Thank you and welcome to our community!


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Post by: Mayhem007 on October 06, 2014, 09:40:51 PM
i play fantasy sports on several sites and it's legal, so chill out dudes.  im more interested in the crypto game...when is it going to launch?


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Post by: brother3 on October 06, 2014, 10:36:44 PM
i play fantasy sports on several sites and it's legal, so chill out dudes.  im more interested in the crypto game...when is it going to launch?

All the games will be rolled out on a regular schedule that will be released either on this board and on our website when available


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Post by: brother3 on October 06, 2014, 11:35:38 PM

The World Is Yours!



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Post by: ofortuna on October 07, 2014, 12:53:20 AM
Crypto on the bounce?  8)

http://www.coindesk.com/sky-falling-reflections-16-months-bitcoin/


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Post by: brother3 on October 07, 2014, 01:42:06 AM



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Post by: aures on October 07, 2014, 02:57:25 AM
Sorry if this has been answered already, which exchange do you plan to use for the ICO?


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Post by: brother3 on October 07, 2014, 03:58:38 AM


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Post by: brother3 on October 07, 2014, 04:37:53 AM

 ;)

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112675/here-comes-the-bribe-why-russia-and-most-governments-wont-try-to-ban-bitcoin


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Post by: brother3 on October 07, 2014, 05:58:53 AM


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Post by: ROBERTO on October 07, 2014, 06:09:34 AM
Many thanks @Brother3 for the nice bounty received for the translation of your article in french

Your project looks very nice, i keep a eyes on it for sure

Good luck for this project


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Post by: brother3 on October 07, 2014, 06:36:08 AM
Many thanks @Brother3 for the nice bounty received for the translation of your article in french

Your project looks very nice, i keep a eyes on it for sure

Good luck for this project

Thanks for the kind words! 


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Post by: fox19891989 on October 07, 2014, 07:14:03 AM
It is a quite awesome project with a famous game company, got a translation bounty. Fast payment. Thanks!


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Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 07, 2014, 07:48:01 AM
It is a quite awesome project with a famous game company, got a translation bounty. Fast payment. Thanks!

Thank you for your contribution!!!


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Post by: fox19891989 on October 07, 2014, 08:18:12 AM
It is a quite awesome project with a famous game company, got a translation bounty. Fast payment. Thanks!

Thank you for your contribution!!!

do u need Chinese OP translation?


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Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 07, 2014, 08:56:15 AM
It is a quite awesome project with a famous game company, got a translation bounty. Fast payment. Thanks!

Thank you for your contribution!!!

do u need Chinese OP translation?

We would be interested, please contact Brother3.   :)


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Post by: tricass on October 07, 2014, 09:16:00 AM
Sorry if this has been answered already, which exchange do you plan to use for the ICO?

i would like to also know if this is being offered through an exchange like bittrex or escrowed?

with regard to mining this coin can existing cryptonite (XCN) or is that cryptonote (xmr, xdn, bcn, etc) GPU mining software be used?

is bergstake tied to the mining award address used during the mining process? and if so how does pool mining affect this? will any premine you control be POS staked in the future?


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Post by: ofortuna on October 07, 2014, 09:39:09 AM
Sorry if this has been answered already, which exchange do you plan to use for the ICO?

i would like to also know if this is being offered through an exchange like bittrex or escrowed?

with regard to mining this coin can existing cryptonite (XCN) or is that cryptonote (xmr, xdn, bcn, etc) GPU mining software be used?

is bergstake tied to the mining award address used during the mining process? and if so how does pool mining affect this? will any premine you control be POS staked in the future?

Great questions but will pass it on to Jaybny!

Meanwhile, here's a pig to look at:
http://i.imgur.com/I3Cy68j.jpg?1


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Post by: Mayhem007 on October 07, 2014, 10:15:23 AM
so if I buyin to the ICO on the first day, i get 10percent more than the next tier?   :P


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Post by: ROBERTO on October 07, 2014, 12:42:54 PM
It is a quite awesome project with a famous game company, got a translation bounty. Fast payment. Thanks!

Thank you for your contribution!!!

do u need Chinese OP translation?

Idem for french OP translation


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 07, 2014, 01:06:21 PM
Sorry if this has been answered already, which exchange do you plan to use for the ICO?

i would like to also know if this is being offered through an exchange like bittrex or escrowed?

with regard to mining this coin can existing cryptonite (XCN) or is that cryptonote (xmr, xdn, bcn, etc) GPU mining software be used?

is bergstake tied to the mining award address used during the mining process? and if so how does pool mining affect this? will any premine you control be POS staked in the future?

-- regrading the ICO process, we are researching various multi-sig / escrow solutions. an exchange does not seem practical because of the bergstake. we are open to entertaining ideas from the public. full details will be available closer to ico window.

-- we are working on bot resistance modified CrytpoNight algorithm, "bottlessnight". yes, a modified GPU crytonight clone, will be provided, and can be used for mining.

-- yes bergstake can be defined AS the mining reward address. pool mining will be effected, and needs to be flushed out. pools will have to change the way they are operated, or at least offer more BRO rewards in exchange for keeping the bergstake. depending on the success of bottlessnight development, BRO may be very resistant to large public mining pools. we plan on releasing a custom pool that splits bergstake among all members, if possible.

-- by definition pre-mined and mined coins will work the same, and can be staked in pos phase. again this ties into the success of bottlessnight development.

more on bottlesnight: the idea is to disincentivise malware bot farms. this is accomplished by a) added complexity to managing many different bergstake address during staking. b) requiring knowledge of miners private-key to solve hash algorithm.

 


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: illodin on October 07, 2014, 01:32:43 PM
If anyone has any questions for our poker pros please let me know.  I will forward to our poker agents promptly

How do you play Axs preflop?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: illodin on October 07, 2014, 01:33:22 PM
Seems like it might be really easy to earn BRO from freerolls and giveaways  ;D

Will there be a transparent ledger of all transactions and the pre-mine?

I only invest in transparent projects.

I'm not sure if you're asking the same thing, but,

how do we know BRO guys are not buying ICO from themselves?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 07, 2014, 01:50:52 PM
Seems like it might be really easy to earn BRO from freerolls and giveaways  ;D

Will there be a transparent ledger of all transactions and the pre-mine?

I only invest in transparent projects.

I'm not sure if you're asking the same thing, but,

how do we know BRO guys are not buying ICO from themselves?

if your asking how do we know breakout gaming is not buying BRO for themselves and from themselves? its a good question. is this a common question with ICOs? This is something that will never be done, its fraudulent, probably illegal and undermines everything we are trying to accomplish. will make sure there is explicit statements that this will not be done, but in the end i think it comes down to transparency and and a little trust.




Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 07, 2014, 01:52:47 PM
Seems like it might be really easy to earn BRO from freerolls and giveaways  ;D

Will there be a transparent ledger of all transactions and the pre-mine?

I only invest in transparent projects.

block-chains are transparent. the genesis block will be open-sourced. is there anything more specific ? we will accommodate any suggestions to make it more transparent. 


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: illodin on October 07, 2014, 01:55:21 PM
Seems like it might be really easy to earn BRO from freerolls and giveaways  ;D

Will there be a transparent ledger of all transactions and the pre-mine?

I only invest in transparent projects.

I'm not sure if you're asking the same thing, but,

how do we know BRO guys are not buying ICO from themselves?

if your asking how do we know breakout gaming is not buying BRO for themselves and from themselves? its a good question. is this a common question with ICOs? This is something that will never be done, its fraudulent, probably illegal and undermines everything we are trying to accomplish. will make sure there is explicit statements that this will not be done, but in the end i think it comes down to transparency and and a little trust.

Yes it's quite a common question, usually the question is ignored, or sometimes answered with a "you don't have to invest if you don't trust us". Good to see you're taking a strong stance on the subject though.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: ciprian220 on October 07, 2014, 03:08:43 PM
ICO start on 21 october?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 07, 2014, 04:26:32 PM
ICO start on 21 october?

0 hundred hours utc.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 07, 2014, 04:27:16 PM
ICO start on 21 october?

0 hundred hours utc.

year of our lord 2014


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 07, 2014, 04:48:57 PM

Please also visit http://www.breakoutcoin.com/ (http://www.breakoutcoin.com/) for more pertinent information.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 07, 2014, 06:43:39 PM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 07, 2014, 07:33:59 PM
so if I buyin to the ICO on the first day, i get 10percent more than the next tier?   :P

Correct!

We believe our sliding scale rewards early birds and still give subsequent investors a fair share.
Please take a look at:

http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/offering/ (http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/offering/)


** Edit **

See Arbex's post below.  I booboo'ed  :'(


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: ROBERTO on October 07, 2014, 07:38:51 PM
Hello, now you have a French translation for your OP in french altcoin section!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=815390.msg9120493#msg9120493

That can help to bring more people on your project and ICO



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: Arbex on October 07, 2014, 08:34:20 PM
so if I buyin to the ICO on the first day, i get 10percent more than the next tier?   :P

The early bird incentive works like this: 
If you buyin among the first 10% of all the bitcoin received during the ICO, you get 10% more than if your buyin was received among those in the second half.  If your buyin fell into the second 10% grouping of cumulative funds received, then you would get 8% more than those in the second half.  If your buyin fell in the 3rd 10% group (decile), you'd get 6% more.  4th decile gets 4% more, 5th decile gets 2% more, and buyins, thereafter, being in the last half of funds received, get their pro-rata amount without any early bird bonus.

So, answering your specific question, the early birds get their respective bonus % relative to the non-early birds in the second half.  We won't know in advance when or where those decile cutoffs fall.  We will find out at the end of the ICO, at which point everything can be calculated.  Everyone gets a fair shot, with early birds earning a bonus.

http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/offering/



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 07, 2014, 09:02:42 PM
Hi guys. Please list Breakout (BRO) on the new CoinBlab crypto social network: http://coinblab.com

Here is an example page: http://coinblab.com/page/dogecoin

CoinBlab also has groups, events, blogs, and IM! Go create an account and secure your username first too!

Thanks for the heads up!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 07, 2014, 09:19:26 PM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 07, 2014, 09:49:30 PM
Hello, now you have a French translation for your OP in french altcoin section!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=815390.msg9120493#msg9120493

That can help to bring more people on your project and ICO



Thanks very much! 


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 07, 2014, 11:03:38 PM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: tricass on October 07, 2014, 11:05:26 PM
Sorry if this has been answered already, which exchange do you plan to use for the ICO?

i would like to also know if this is being offered through an exchange like bittrex or escrowed?

with regard to mining this coin can existing cryptonite (XCN) or is that cryptonote (xmr, xdn, bcn, etc) GPU mining software be used?

is bergstake tied to the mining award address used during the mining process? and if so how does pool mining affect this? will any premine you control be POS staked in the future?

-- regrading the ICO process, we are researching various multi-sig / escrow solutions. an exchange does not seem practical because of the bergstake. we are open to entertaining ideas from the public. full details will be available closer to ico window.

-- we are working on bot resistance modified CrytpoNight algorithm, "bottlessnight". yes, a modified GPU crytonight clone, will be provided, and can be used for mining.

-- yes bergstake can be defined AS the mining reward address. pool mining will be effected, and needs to be flushed out. pools will have to change the way they are operated, or at least offer more BRO rewards in exchange for keeping the bergstake. depending on the success of bottlessnight development, BRO may be very resistant to large public mining pools. we plan on releasing a custom pool that splits bergstake among all members, if possible.

-- by definition pre-mined and mined coins will work the same, and can be staked in pos phase. again this ties into the success of bottlessnight development.

more on bottlesnight: the idea is to disincentivise malware bot farms. this is accomplished by a) added complexity to managing many different bergstake address during staking. b) requiring knowledge of miners private-key to solve hash algorithm.

  

you could look at how via coin used a modified electrum wallet to do their ICO. i believe it was a multi-sig based solution.

please also make sure you cater for both AMD and Nvidia GPU miners. i think the AMD one only works with a pool so your pool solution would be important in getting their participation during mining.

i think the bergstake is the more valuable part of this solution as it can't be bought. in my mind it's almost like a secondary coin you have attached to the main coin. how will you be able check how much bergstake you have? would staking follow the same process as other POS coins and be based on similar concepts of coin age and stake weight? if this is the case, then with the premine of 9.5M coins you will hold 67% of bergstake available when POS starts which is too much. given that most of these premined coins will be given away as bounties, promotions, etc the recipients won't receive the bergstake and only the coin. would you consider providing additional incentives to ICO buyers by distributing all of this bergstake to them or at least the 7M worth?

i commend you for trying to keep this coin decentralised as much as possible.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 08, 2014, 12:03:34 AM

Just received words concerning an exciting development...  Stay tuned  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 08, 2014, 12:39:39 AM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 08, 2014, 01:27:15 AM
Seems like it might be really easy to earn BRO from freerolls and giveaways  ;D

Will there be a transparent ledger of all transactions and the pre-mine?

I only invest in transparent projects.

I'm not sure if you're asking the same thing, but,

how do we know BRO guys are not buying ICO from themselves?

if your asking how do we know breakout gaming is not buying BRO for themselves and from themselves? its a good question. is this a common question with ICOs? This is something that will never be done, its fraudulent, probably illegal and undermines everything we are trying to accomplish. will make sure there is explicit statements that this will not be done, but in the end i think it comes down to transparency and and a little trust.

Yes it's quite a common question, usually the question is ignored, or sometimes answered with a "you don't have to invest if you don't trust us". Good to see you're taking a strong stance on the subject though.

Welcome to our thread!  That is a great question btw..

Keep them comin'


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 08, 2014, 01:58:50 AM
Whew!


http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-price-finds-hard-floor-following-26000-btc-sell-order/ (http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-price-finds-hard-floor-following-26000-btc-sell-order/)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 08, 2014, 02:33:00 AM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 08, 2014, 03:21:33 AM
Things are looking up!

http://www.coindesk.com/new-fund-gives-traders-blue-chip-stock-exposure-bitcoin/ (http://www.coindesk.com/new-fund-gives-traders-blue-chip-stock-exposure-bitcoin/)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 08, 2014, 04:09:34 AM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 08, 2014, 04:46:52 AM
Interesting read

http://www.coindesk.com/one-year-later-lyn-ulbricht-still-fights-sons-freedom/ (http://www.coindesk.com/one-year-later-lyn-ulbricht-still-fights-sons-freedom/)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 08, 2014, 05:31:22 AM


http://cointelegraph.com/news/112590/bitcoin-vietnam-co-ltd-adds-extra-functionality-lowers-entry-barriers-for-users (http://cointelegraph.com/news/112590/bitcoin-vietnam-co-ltd-adds-extra-functionality-lowers-entry-barriers-for-users)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 08, 2014, 06:04:38 AM
yo @brother3 bro


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 08, 2014, 06:42:46 AM
Translated some press release for Breakout and got paid very well, can't wait to play on their poker.

Thanks for the kind words!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: ivanst776 on October 08, 2014, 07:10:10 AM
So many IPO's lately.

Good luck..


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 08, 2014, 07:46:25 AM
So many IPO's lately.

Good luck..

We believe BreakOut Gaming has very strong fundamentals!

Thanks for stopping by!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 08, 2014, 08:14:31 AM
Comfort read  ;)

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112636/10-reasons-why-bitcoin-is-continuing-to-grow (http://cointelegraph.com/news/112636/10-reasons-why-bitcoin-is-continuing-to-grow)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: chenka563 on October 08, 2014, 10:33:27 AM
NEW COIN


A cabbage was chewed a lot of times, has no taste.


so ,it's not easy to do that issuing new coin.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: Gizfreak on October 08, 2014, 10:49:42 AM
BRO is a coin with a purpose from the start, not solely aiming at mass adoption by merchants as by far too many coins are trying nowadays.
For me it's a firm concept and I believe in it.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: gongu on October 08, 2014, 03:20:01 PM
Have to say it is a nice coin, with a simpatico dev  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 08, 2014, 03:25:15 PM
If anyone has any questions for our poker pros please let me know.  I will forward to our poker agents promptly

How do you play Axs preflop?
Very carefully.😉


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: JakeThePanda on October 08, 2014, 03:30:42 PM
If anyone has any questions for our poker pros please let me know.  I will forward to our poker agents promptly

How do you play Axs preflop?
Very carefully.😉
Too general.  

What position are you in?
What was the action before you?  
Rule #1, always look left.  Who's to your left and what reads do you have?  
Tight or loose table?
Short handed game or full ring? How many players at the table?
Stack sizes?
Cash game or Tourney?  
What's your image at the table?
Ace rag or what?

Answer those and then we can almost get started with the decision process.  Another X amount of questions to consider based on those answers.

If you didn't even consider this right out of the gate then you're just a home game fish.  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: crash__bandicoot on October 08, 2014, 04:57:43 PM
BRO is a coin with a purpose from the start, not solely aiming at mass adoption by merchants as by far too many coins are trying nowadays.
For me it's a firm concept and I believe in it.

Exactly! Really glad to see message got through :)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 08, 2014, 05:50:47 PM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 08, 2014, 06:40:46 PM
NEW COIN


A cabbage was chewed a lot of times, has no taste.


so ,it's not easy to do that issuing new coin.

Have you looked at our website? More specifically

http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/the-team/ (http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/the-team/) and http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/all-stars/ (http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/all-stars/)

and I love this view

BRO is a coin with a purpose from the start, not solely aiming at mass adoption by merchants as by far too many coins are trying nowadays.
For me it's a firm concept and I believe in it.

Welcome to our thread btw ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: brother3 on October 08, 2014, 07:05:46 PM
If anyone has any questions for our poker pros please let me know.  I will forward to our poker agents promptly

How do you play Axs preflop?
Very carefully.😉
Too general.  

What position are you in?
What was the action before you?  
Rule #1, always look left.  Who's to your left and what reads do you have?  
Tight or loose table?
Short handed game or full ring? How many players at the table?
Stack sizes?
Cash game or Tourney?  
What's your image at the table?
Ace rag or what?

Answer those and then we can almost get started with the decision process.  Another X amount of questions to consider based on those answers.

If you didn't even consider this right out of the gate then you're just a home game fish.  ;D

Jake, it is apparent that you have been doing this for a long time  ;D

There is so much to learn!  May be I need to sign up for a class...  Will you be the teacher?  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 08, 2014, 07:53:20 PM
yo @brother3 bro

What do you want? Spit it out  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 08, 2014, 08:06:58 PM
Enjoy!

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112702/what-price-slump-blockchaininfo-and-5-others-raise-almost-100-million-in-funding (http://cointelegraph.com/news/112702/what-price-slump-blockchaininfo-and-5-others-raise-almost-100-million-in-funding)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 08, 2014, 09:46:38 PM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 08, 2014, 10:25:50 PM
Good read

http://www.coindesk.com/state-of-bitcoin-q3-2014-report-maturing-ecosystem-price-pressure/ (http://www.coindesk.com/state-of-bitcoin-q3-2014-report-maturing-ecosystem-price-pressure/)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 09, 2014, 02:05:50 AM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 09, 2014, 02:55:06 AM

http://www.coindesk.com/tim-draper-says-banks-hugely-threatened-bitcoin/ (http://www.coindesk.com/tim-draper-says-banks-hugely-threatened-bitcoin/)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 09, 2014, 04:00:14 AM


We're all excited to be a part of @CoinAgenda in Las Vegas.
Beat the heat & say hi after our panel tomorrow morning!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 09, 2014, 05:21:32 AM
I only have 22 signs

http://www.coindesk.com/24-signs-youre-obsessed-bitcoin/ (http://www.coindesk.com/24-signs-youre-obsessed-bitcoin/)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: Boom-Crash on October 09, 2014, 05:28:19 AM
Can't wait to get into this. Looks mint! 11 more days.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 09, 2014, 06:00:03 AM
Can't wait to get into this. Looks mint! 11 more days.

Thanks!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 09, 2014, 06:53:31 AM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 09, 2014, 08:28:49 AM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 09, 2014, 09:05:48 AM

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112699/overstockcom-plans-new-bitcoin-blockchain-based-stock-market (http://cointelegraph.com/news/112699/overstockcom-plans-new-bitcoin-blockchain-based-stock-market)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 09, 2014, 09:45:22 AM
We will be speaking at the BitAngels Conference today in Las Vegas. Crypto and iGaming!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 09, 2014, 11:48:34 AM
saving my bitcoins for BRO ico... this one has the right stuff,  first time buying alts in a long time


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: JakeThePanda on October 09, 2014, 12:05:47 PM
If anyone has any questions for our poker pros please let me know.  I will forward to our poker agents promptly

How do you play Axs preflop?
Very carefully.😉
Too general.  

What position are you in?
What was the action before you?  
Rule #1, always look left.  Who's to your left and what reads do you have?  
Tight or loose table?
Short handed game or full ring? How many players at the table?
Stack sizes?
Cash game or Tourney?  
What's your image at the table?
Ace rag or what?

Answer those and then we can almost get started with the decision process.  Another X amount of questions to consider based on those answers.

If you didn't even consider this right out of the gate then you're just a home game fish.  ;D

Jake, it is apparent that you have been doing this for a long time  ;D

There is so much to learn!  May be I need to sign up for a class...  Will you be the teacher?  ;)

Yeah, after millions of hands of online poker you learn how to process this information quite quickly.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: ciprian220 on October 09, 2014, 03:10:03 PM
on what site ico release?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: nhrf3 on October 09, 2014, 03:30:35 PM
If anyone has any questions for our poker pros please let me know.  I will forward to our poker agents promptly

How do you play Axs preflop?

No pro here, but one thing you never want with pocket Aces is a crowd seeing the flop. But yes, position, appearance, table manners/history, etc are all important. There's a myriad of ways to play pocket Aces.



BreakoutCoin- I'm watching this coin closely- How about a shout from these pros backing the coin?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: JakeThePanda on October 09, 2014, 03:50:11 PM
If anyone has any questions for our poker pros please let me know.  I will forward to our poker agents promptly

How do you play Axs preflop?

No pro here, but one thing you never want with pocket Aces is a crowd seeing the flop. But yes, position, appearance, table manners/history, etc are all important. There's a myriad of ways to play pocket Aces.



BreakoutCoin- I'm watching this coin closely- How about a shout from these pros backing the coin?

How about they join the thread for some poke discussion.

Axs stands for Ace and any other card of the same suit.  Since you brought up aces, that happens to be the easiest hand to play pre-flop, IMO.  I can probably teach a 5 year old how to play AA properly pre-flop.  Open bet and keep raising to get it in good.  That's it.  With 100bb-200bb stacks you can play KK the same way.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: nhrf3 on October 09, 2014, 04:15:57 PM
If anyone has any questions for our poker pros please let me know.  I will forward to our poker agents promptly

How do you play Axs preflop?

No pro here, but one thing you never want with pocket Aces is a crowd seeing the flop. But yes, position, appearance, table manners/history, etc are all important. There's a myriad of ways to play pocket Aces.



BreakoutCoin- I'm watching this coin closely- How about a shout from these pros backing the coin?

How about they join the thread for some poke discussion.

Axs stands for Ace and any other card of the same suit.  Since you brought up aces, that happens to be the easiest hand to play pre-flop, IMO.  I can probably teach a 5 year old how to play AA properly pre-flop.  Open bet and keep raising to get it in good.  That's it.  With 100bb-200bb stacks you can play KK the same way.

Are you trying to scare everyone out of the hand, or take all of their money? If you're a quiet observer type player and try that, no one will risk money against you. It's all relative and why pros are pros.


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Post by: brother3 on October 09, 2014, 06:10:17 PM
on what site ico release?

Please visit http://www.breakoutcoin.com/ (http://www.breakoutcoin.com/)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: JakeThePanda on October 09, 2014, 06:33:37 PM
If anyone has any questions for our poker pros please let me know.  I will forward to our poker agents promptly

How do you play Axs preflop?

No pro here, but one thing you never want with pocket Aces is a crowd seeing the flop. But yes, position, appearance, table manners/history, etc are all important. There's a myriad of ways to play pocket Aces.



BreakoutCoin- I'm watching this coin closely- How about a shout from these pros backing the coin?

How about they join the thread for some poke discussion.

Axs stands for Ace and any other card of the same suit.  Since you brought up aces, that happens to be the easiest hand to play pre-flop, IMO.  I can probably teach a 5 year old how to play AA properly pre-flop.  Open bet and keep raising to get it in good.  That's it.  With 100bb-200bb stacks you can play KK the same way.

Are you trying to scare everyone out of the hand, or take all of their money? If you're a quiet observer type player and try that, no one will risk money against you. It's all relative and why pros are pros.

Slow playing AA is a recipe for disaster unless you are ridiculously good post-flop.


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Post by: brother3 on October 09, 2014, 07:02:06 PM
We will be speaking at the BitAngels Conference today in Las Vegas. Crypto and iGaming!

Update please!


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Post by: brother3 on October 09, 2014, 08:56:41 PM


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Post by: brother3 on October 09, 2014, 09:39:30 PM
Hey, it's free  ;)

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112700/silicon-valleys-draper-university-offering-free-online-bitcoin-course (http://cointelegraph.com/news/112700/silicon-valleys-draper-university-offering-free-online-bitcoin-course)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 09, 2014, 10:07:48 PM
We will be speaking at the BitAngels Conference today in Las Vegas. Crypto and iGaming!

Update please!

Crowd Sale panel today discussed problem with all the alternative coins...no liquidity and no market for these coins.  Breakout enters iGaming in a $Bn market.  Millions in transactions a day to provide massive liquidity.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: nhrf3 on October 09, 2014, 10:42:42 PM
If anyone has any questions for our poker pros please let me know.  I will forward to our poker agents promptly

How do you play Axs preflop?

No pro here, but one thing you never want with pocket Aces is a crowd seeing the flop. But yes, position, appearance, table manners/history, etc are all important. There's a myriad of ways to play pocket Aces.



BreakoutCoin- I'm watching this coin closely- How about a shout from these pros backing the coin?

How about they join the thread for some poke discussion.

Axs stands for Ace and any other card of the same suit.  Since you brought up aces, that happens to be the easiest hand to play pre-flop, IMO.  I can probably teach a 5 year old how to play AA properly pre-flop.  Open bet and keep raising to get it in good.  That's it.  With 100bb-200bb stacks you can play KK the same way.

Are you trying to scare everyone out of the hand, or take all of their money? If you're a quiet observer type player and try that, no one will risk money against you. It's all relative and why pros are pros.

Slow playing AA is a recipe for disaster unless you are ridiculously good post-flop.

I'm not really saying to slow play, I just feel your statement is too aggressive for a general rule of thumb. If you're the button and everyone folds, you're pretty much golden. If you're in a middle position and post a huge raise after playing extremely conservative, there's a good chance you won't see a flop or if you get a caller they'll be hesitant to call much post flop- they may place a sizable bet to see where you are, but they'll be wary.

So, for the last time, it's all relative to what's been happening at the table, your own attitude/betting history, etc. One thing is for certain- you DON'T want a crowd seeing a flop with pocket aces. Too easy for someone to hit two-pair, the chances of someone else hitting a set are equal to yours, and it also opens up draws for straights and flushes. I should note that I'm more of a conservative who mainly plays great opening hands in early positions and good hands in late positions, and wait for several hands to get a feel for my table. Other players come out firing with the utmost confidence and have a lot of success, however. I certainly ain't no damn Tom Dwan- pretty sure I've seen him make guys fold QQ-AA with a 2-6 off suit haha

I have a good feel for the game and have won a lot more than I lost, but I am too anxious to play often. My adrenaline overwhelms me, so I stick to cash games at the local card room or casual games with friends.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 10, 2014, 12:58:16 AM
We will be speaking at the BitAngels Conference today in Las Vegas. Crypto and iGaming!

Update please!

Crowd Sale panel today discussed problem with all the alternative coins...no liquidity and no market for these coins.  Breakout enters iGaming in a $Bn market.  Millions in transactions a day to provide massive liquidity.

Crowd Sale panel made perfect sense...  Go BRO!!!


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Post by: brother3 on October 10, 2014, 01:43:48 AM
The Greener Cryptocurrency



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: brother3 on October 10, 2014, 03:35:18 AM
If anyone has any questions for our poker pros please let me know.  I will forward to our poker agents promptly

How do you play Axs preflop?

No pro here, but one thing you never want with pocket Aces is a crowd seeing the flop. But yes, position, appearance, table manners/history, etc are all important. There's a myriad of ways to play pocket Aces.



BreakoutCoin- I'm watching this coin closely- How about a shout from these pros backing the coin?

How about they join the thread for some poke discussion.

Axs stands for Ace and any other card of the same suit.  Since you brought up aces, that happens to be the easiest hand to play pre-flop, IMO.  I can probably teach a 5 year old how to play AA properly pre-flop.  Open bet and keep raising to get it in good.  That's it.  With 100bb-200bb stacks you can play KK the same way.

Are you trying to scare everyone out of the hand, or take all of their money? If you're a quiet observer type player and try that, no one will risk money against you. It's all relative and why pros are pros.

Slow playing AA is a recipe for disaster unless you are ridiculously good post-flop.

I'm not really saying to slow play, I just feel your statement is too aggressive for a general rule of thumb. If you're the button and everyone folds, you're pretty much golden. If you're in a middle position and post a huge raise after playing extremely conservative, there's a good chance you won't see a flop or if you get a caller they'll be hesitant to call much post flop- they may place a sizable bet to see where you are, but they'll be wary.

So, for the last time, it's all relative to what's been happening at the table, your own attitude/betting history, etc. One thing is for certain- you DON'T want a crowd seeing a flop with pocket aces. Too easy for someone to hit two-pair, the chances of someone else hitting a set are equal to yours, and it also opens up draws for straights and flushes. I should note that I'm more of a conservative who mainly plays great opening hands in early positions and good hands in late positions, and wait for several hands to get a feel for my table. Other players come out firing with the utmost confidence and have a lot of success, however. I certainly ain't no damn Tom Dwan- pretty sure I've seen him make guys fold QQ-AA with a 2-6 off suit haha

I have a good feel for the game and have won a lot more than I lost, but I am too anxious to play often. My adrenaline overwhelms me, so I stick to cash games at the local card room or casual games with friends.


I have so much to learn  :'(


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Post by: brother3 on October 10, 2014, 06:17:24 AM


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Post by: adloule13 on October 10, 2014, 09:03:13 AM
when mining begins ?


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Post by: Randy M Kim on October 10, 2014, 02:21:30 PM
bit Angels conference was fun and very productive


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Post by: monoxide on October 10, 2014, 02:45:54 PM
This seems one of the most promising coins in loooooong time.

Will be watching and waiting for ICO.

Good luck.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: kodtycoon on October 10, 2014, 03:26:12 PM
 "This will mark the first time a real distributed consensus has been reached via Proof-of-Stake, thanks to Bergstake"

Can you prove why nxt does not reach consensus via pos in a purely distributed manner? Because the statement above is with out a doubt a false claim and therefore you are misleading investors. Please do your research before making such claims. It doesn't lhook good what so ever.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: JakeThePanda on October 10, 2014, 03:33:51 PM
If anyone has any questions for our poker pros please let me know.  I will forward to our poker agents promptly

How do you play Axs preflop?

No pro here, but one thing you never want with pocket Aces is a crowd seeing the flop. But yes, position, appearance, table manners/history, etc are all important. There's a myriad of ways to play pocket Aces.



BreakoutCoin- I'm watching this coin closely- How about a shout from these pros backing the coin?

How about they join the thread for some poke discussion.

Axs stands for Ace and any other card of the same suit.  Since you brought up aces, that happens to be the easiest hand to play pre-flop, IMO.  I can probably teach a 5 year old how to play AA properly pre-flop.  Open bet and keep raising to get it in good.  That's it.  With 100bb-200bb stacks you can play KK the same way.

Are you trying to scare everyone out of the hand, or take all of their money? If you're a quiet observer type player and try that, no one will risk money against you. It's all relative and why pros are pros.

Slow playing AA is a recipe for disaster unless you are ridiculously good post-flop.

I'm not really saying to slow play, I just feel your statement is too aggressive for a general rule of thumb. If you're the button and everyone folds, you're pretty much golden. If you're in a middle position and post a huge raise after playing extremely conservative, there's a good chance you won't see a flop or if you get a caller they'll be hesitant to call much post flop- they may place a sizable bet to see where you are, but they'll be wary.

So, for the last time, it's all relative to what's been happening at the table, your own attitude/betting history, etc. One thing is for certain- you DON'T want a crowd seeing a flop with pocket aces. Too easy for someone to hit two-pair, the chances of someone else hitting a set are equal to yours, and it also opens up draws for straights and flushes. I should note that I'm more of a conservative who mainly plays great opening hands in early positions and good hands in late positions, and wait for several hands to get a feel for my table. Other players come out firing with the utmost confidence and have a lot of success, however. I certainly ain't no damn Tom Dwan- pretty sure I've seen him make guys fold QQ-AA with a 2-6 off suit haha

I have a good feel for the game and have won a lot more than I lost, but I am too anxious to play often. My adrenaline overwhelms me, so I stick to cash games at the local card room or casual games with friends.


For the last time and I will drop it, but no player can ever go wrong with playing AA too aggressively pre-flop no matter what the table dynamics are.  The time to play AA agg is pre-flop, after the flop is when it gets tricky.  To be clear I'm talking about pre-flop so I'm pretty certain Tom Dwan never made anyone fold AA pre-flop, EVER, unless it was an online misclick.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: nhrf3 on October 10, 2014, 04:16:26 PM
If anyone has any questions for our poker pros please let me know.  I will forward to our poker agents promptly

How do you play Axs preflop?

No pro here, but one thing you never want with pocket Aces is a crowd seeing the flop. But yes, position, appearance, table manners/history, etc are all important. There's a myriad of ways to play pocket Aces.



BreakoutCoin- I'm watching this coin closely- How about a shout from these pros backing the coin?

How about they join the thread for some poke discussion.

Axs stands for Ace and any other card of the same suit.  Since you brought up aces, that happens to be the easiest hand to play pre-flop, IMO.  I can probably teach a 5 year old how to play AA properly pre-flop.  Open bet and keep raising to get it in good.  That's it.  With 100bb-200bb stacks you can play KK the same way.

Are you trying to scare everyone out of the hand, or take all of their money? If you're a quiet observer type player and try that, no one will risk money against you. It's all relative and why pros are pros.

Slow playing AA is a recipe for disaster unless you are ridiculously good post-flop.

I'm not really saying to slow play, I just feel your statement is too aggressive for a general rule of thumb. If you're the button and everyone folds, you're pretty much golden. If you're in a middle position and post a huge raise after playing extremely conservative, there's a good chance you won't see a flop or if you get a caller they'll be hesitant to call much post flop- they may place a sizable bet to see where you are, but they'll be wary.

So, for the last time, it's all relative to what's been happening at the table, your own attitude/betting history, etc. One thing is for certain- you DON'T want a crowd seeing a flop with pocket aces. Too easy for someone to hit two-pair, the chances of someone else hitting a set are equal to yours, and it also opens up draws for straights and flushes. I should note that I'm more of a conservative who mainly plays great opening hands in early positions and good hands in late positions, and wait for several hands to get a feel for my table. Other players come out firing with the utmost confidence and have a lot of success, however. I certainly ain't no damn Tom Dwan- pretty sure I've seen him make guys fold QQ-AA with a 2-6 off suit haha

I have a good feel for the game and have won a lot more than I lost, but I am too anxious to play often. My adrenaline overwhelms me, so I stick to cash games at the local card room or casual games with friends.


For the last time and I will drop it, but no player can ever go wrong with playing AA too aggressively pre-flop no matter what the table dynamics are.  The time to play AA agg is pre-flop, after the flop is when it gets tricky.  To be clear I'm talking about pre-flop so I'm pretty certain Tom Dwan never made anyone fold AA pre-flop, EVER, unless it was an online misclick.

If you're talking simply winning the hand, sure, you can never play AA too aggressively. But, if you want to maximize profit, then I disagree. We can just leave it at that.

Of course it wasn't a pre-flop AA fold. Pocket Aces is the nuts pre-flop, but if you have a crowd of 5+ players seeing the flop your chances of winning the hand, while still the highest, is lowered by a fair margin. Can't tell you how many times I've seen AA folded following a flop with a crowd- and usually they were correct in folding.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: JakeThePanda on October 10, 2014, 04:41:35 PM
If anyone has any questions for our poker pros please let me know.  I will forward to our poker agents promptly

How do you play Axs preflop?

No pro here, but one thing you never want with pocket Aces is a crowd seeing the flop. But yes, position, appearance, table manners/history, etc are all important. There's a myriad of ways to play pocket Aces.



BreakoutCoin- I'm watching this coin closely- How about a shout from these pros backing the coin?

How about they join the thread for some poke discussion.

Axs stands for Ace and any other card of the same suit.  Since you brought up aces, that happens to be the easiest hand to play pre-flop, IMO.  I can probably teach a 5 year old how to play AA properly pre-flop.  Open bet and keep raising to get it in good.  That's it.  With 100bb-200bb stacks you can play KK the same way.

Are you trying to scare everyone out of the hand, or take all of their money? If you're a quiet observer type player and try that, no one will risk money against you. It's all relative and why pros are pros.

Slow playing AA is a recipe for disaster unless you are ridiculously good post-flop.

I'm not really saying to slow play, I just feel your statement is too aggressive for a general rule of thumb. If you're the button and everyone folds, you're pretty much golden. If you're in a middle position and post a huge raise after playing extremely conservative, there's a good chance you won't see a flop or if you get a caller they'll be hesitant to call much post flop- they may place a sizable bet to see where you are, but they'll be wary.

So, for the last time, it's all relative to what's been happening at the table, your own attitude/betting history, etc. One thing is for certain- you DON'T want a crowd seeing a flop with pocket aces. Too easy for someone to hit two-pair, the chances of someone else hitting a set are equal to yours, and it also opens up draws for straights and flushes. I should note that I'm more of a conservative who mainly plays great opening hands in early positions and good hands in late positions, and wait for several hands to get a feel for my table. Other players come out firing with the utmost confidence and have a lot of success, however. I certainly ain't no damn Tom Dwan- pretty sure I've seen him make guys fold QQ-AA with a 2-6 off suit haha

I have a good feel for the game and have won a lot more than I lost, but I am too anxious to play often. My adrenaline overwhelms me, so I stick to cash games at the local card room or casual games with friends.


For the last time and I will drop it, but no player can ever go wrong with playing AA too aggressively pre-flop no matter what the table dynamics are.  The time to play AA agg is pre-flop, after the flop is when it gets tricky.  To be clear I'm talking about pre-flop so I'm pretty certain Tom Dwan never made anyone fold AA pre-flop, EVER, unless it was an online misclick.

If you're talking simply winning the hand, sure, you can never play AA too aggressively. But, if you want to maximize profit, then I disagree. We can just leave it at that.

Of course it wasn't a pre-flop AA fold. Pocket Aces is the nuts pre-flop, but if you have a crowd of 5+ players seeing the flop your chances of winning the hand, while still the highest, is lowered by a fair margin. Can't tell you how many times I've seen AA folded following a flop with a crowd- and usually they were correct in folding.

I'm going to let you get the last word in even though I can keep going. :P


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Post by: brother3 on October 10, 2014, 05:59:03 PM
This seems one of the most promising coins in loooooong time.

Will be watching and waiting for ICO.

Good luck.

Thank you for your interest and kind words!


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Post by: kodtycoon on October 10, 2014, 06:06:50 PM
This seems one of the most promising coins in loooooong time.

Will be watching and waiting for ICO.

Good luck.

Thank you for your interest and kind words!
are you a Dev of this project?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 10, 2014, 06:10:25 PM
"This will mark the first time a real distributed consensus has been reached via Proof-of-Stake, thanks to Bergstake"

Can you prove why nxt does not reach consensus via pos in a purely distributed manner? Because the statement above is with out a doubt a false claim and therefore you are misleading investors. Please do your research before making such claims. It doesn't lhook good what so ever.

I hope this answers your question

http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/the-coin/ (http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/the-coin/)

Header "Proof-of-Bergstake / Proof-of-Work Hybrid to Solve Known Problems"

If you are still not satisfied, I will let Jay know...



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 10, 2014, 06:11:38 PM
This seems one of the most promising coins in loooooong time.

Will be watching and waiting for ICO.

Good luck.

Thank you for your interest and kind words!
are you a Dev of this project?

Jay is the dev


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Post by: brother3 on October 10, 2014, 06:39:24 PM


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Post by: DailyModo on October 10, 2014, 06:43:44 PM
Here's an article about breakout coin hope you guys enjoy it http://coin-network.com/breakout-gaming-and-breakout-coin-time-for-the-revolution/


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Post by: LemonAndFries on October 10, 2014, 06:45:18 PM
looks interesting. watching  8)


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Post by: kodtycoon on October 10, 2014, 07:19:59 PM
"This will mark the first time a real distributed consensus has been reached via Proof-of-Stake, thanks to Bergstake"

Can you prove why nxt does not reach consensus via pos in a purely distributed manner? Because the statement above is with out a doubt a false claim and therefore you are misleading investors. Please do your research before making such claims. It doesn't lhook good what so ever.

I hope this answers your question

http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/the-coin/ (http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/the-coin/)

Header "Proof-of-Bergstake / Proof-of-Work Hybrid to Solve Known Problems"

If you are still not satisfied, I will let Jay know...



actually it proves that the person who wrote it does not know how nxt works and he is working under the assumption that all proof of stake algorithms, if he knows there is more than one version, are the same, which does not instill confidence in his capabilities.

i suggest the dev read the part of the nxt white paper that explains forging and how blocks are generated.

it can be found here: https://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Whitepaper:Nxt#Block_Creation_.28Forging.29.5Bsub:Block-Creation-.28Forging.29.5D

i also suggest that the false claims be removed from the OP immediately.

your dev should do his due diligence prior to making such bold claims about his coin. the total lack of research and lack of understanding of the crypto and more specifically the PoS space is not very impressive.

ps. im not trying to spread fud, but this type of thing should leave investors concerned. there are two out comes to this situation.. ether the dev is intentionally posting false claims to boost hype or he has not done any prior research in the area and in turn does not understand the PoS technology fully. not good.


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Post by: brother3 on October 10, 2014, 08:06:06 PM
Here's an article about breakout coin hope you guys enjoy it http://coin-network.com/breakout-gaming-and-breakout-coin-time-for-the-revolution/


Thanks very much!  :D


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Post by: jaybny on October 10, 2014, 08:11:55 PM
"This will mark the first time a real distributed consensus has been reached via Proof-of-Stake, thanks to Bergstake"

Can you prove why nxt does not reach consensus via pos in a purely distributed manner? Because the statement above is with out a doubt a false claim and therefore you are misleading investors. Please do your research before making such claims. It doesn't lhook good what so ever.

I hope this answers your question

http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/the-coin/ (http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/the-coin/)

Header "Proof-of-Bergstake / Proof-of-Work Hybrid to Solve Known Problems"

If you are still not satisfied, I will let Jay know...



actually it proves that the person who wrote it does not know how nxt works and he is working under the assumption that all proof of stake algorithms, if he knows there is more than one version, are the same, which does not instill confidence in his capabilities.

i suggest the dev read the part of the nxt white paper that explains forging and how blocks are generated.

it can be found here: https://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Whitepaper:Nxt#Block_Creation_.28Forging.29.5Bsub:Block-Creation-.28Forging.29.5D

i also suggest that the false claims be removed from the OP immediately.

your dev should do his due diligence prior to making such bold claims about his coin. the total lack of research and lack of understanding of the crypto and more specifically the PoS space is not very impressive.

ps. im not trying to spread fud, but this type of thing should leave investors concerned. there are two out comes to this situation.. ether the dev is intentionally posting false claims to boost hype or he has not done any prior research in the area and in turn does not understand the PoS technology fully. not good.

-- It is true that Nxt doesn't have the major problems of typical PoS coins, because it doesn't use coinage. Also Nxt is 100% pre-mined so there is no large block reward just some transaction fees, sometimes.  

-- I have read the Nxt white paper, a while ago, and have a simple question. When two accounts simultaneously sign the block at the same time, how is consensus reached?

-- I really don't want to get into a Nxt specific debate. For one, we use some on the same ideas from Nxt regarding block signer algorithm.

-- there are hundreds and hundreds on pages of debate as to whether Nxt is truly decentralized in its use of checkpoints.
https://nxtforum.org/general/how-does-nxt-fix-the-nothing-at-stake-problem/msg27570/#msg27570

-- There are good arguments on both side. But the Nxt "forging" algorithm has been updated multiple times to fix various problems.  

-- when Nxt first came out, its algo was flawed and it relied on checkpoints. can we agree on this?

If Nxt has fixed all these problems thats great, but this is not really the place to discuss if Nxt reached PoS consensus. What should be discussed is Bergstake, and its viability.

Fyi: Before coming up with Bergstake, I meticulously researched all the PoS white-papers, have deep understanding of PoS and its issues. Ive been watching and reading Nxt from the very early days, but not so much recently. It is entirely possible that Nxt and Bergstake both solved the problems. To me, Bergstake is much simpler and cleaner.


edit:
seems like the Nxt debate is still raging on:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=787100.0

edit:

and theres this:
https://download.wpsoftware.net/bitcoin/pos.pdf



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Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 10, 2014, 08:27:40 PM
Here's an article about breakout coin hope you guys enjoy it http://coin-network.com/breakout-gaming-and-breakout-coin-time-for-the-revolution/

DailyModo,

Thank you for the tremendous article!!


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Post by: brother3 on October 10, 2014, 09:12:00 PM


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Post by: kodtycoon on October 10, 2014, 09:33:37 PM


-- It is true that Nxt doesn't have the major problems of typical PoS coins, because it doesn't use coinage. Also Nxt is 100% pre-mined so there is no large block reward just some transaction fees, sometimes.  

pre-mined is the wrong term as there is no mining in pos systems which you would obviously know. the fact you know the above mentioned should have been enough for you to refrain from making the claim i brought up.
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-- I have read the Nxt white paper, a while ago, and have a simple question. When two accounts simultaneously sign the block at the same time, how is consensus reached?

it is impossible for two accounts to sign the same block when it is being forged.
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-- I really don't want to get into a Nxt specific debate. For one, we use some on the same ideas from Nxt regarding block signer algorithm.

-- there are hundreds and hundreds on pages of debate as to whether Nxt is truly decentralized in its use of checkpoints.
https://nxtforum.org/general/how-does-nxt-fix-the-nothing-at-stake-problem/msg27570/#msg27570

nxt does not use centralised checkpoints, it uses rolling checkpoints that disallow any change to the block chain after 720 blocks or i think around 12 hours. once TF is implimented it will 10 blocks or ten mins. the nxt implementation of check points is a decentralised solution. the only people arguing that nxt is not decentralised are people who do not understand its implementation..
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-- There are good arguments on both side. But the Nxt "forging" algorithm has been updated multiple times to fix various problems.  

-- when Nxt first came out, its algo was flawed and it relied on checkpoints. can we agree on this?
yes when it first came out, it did use a flawed algo but that was fixed a very very long time ago. the fact that it used to be flawed and now has been fixed should not be used as an argument to justify false claims.
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If Nxt has fixed all these problems thats great, but this is not really the place to discuss if Nxt reached PoS consensus. What should be discussed is Bergstake, and its viability.
i agree, but im not educated enough on other implementations of PoS to put forward an argument about any other pos coin. thats why i used nxt for my argument against your claim that BRO is the only PoS coin that can reach distributed consensus.
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Fyi: Before coming up with Bergstake, I meticulously researched all the PoS white-papers, have deep understanding of PoS and its issues. Ive been watching and reading Nxt from the very early days, but not so much recently. It is entirely possible that Nxt and Bergstake both solved the problems. To me, Bergstake is much simpler and cleaner.
you could very well be correct that bergstake is a more elegant/simple solution but that still does not justify the claim that BRO is the only coin that can reach consensus in an entirely distributed manner. also if you researched, and understood, all the PoS white papers you should know that the claim made is a false claim.

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edit:
seems like the Nxt debate is still raging on:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=787100.0



iv followed that thread for a while and every single argument that nxt is centralised or flawed in any way has ether been proven false or is impossible to prove ie. nothing to do with the underlying technology/code. the claims that only a handful of people hold own the majority of the top accounts, which were the only arguments they were left with, are obviously impossible to prove but that is not a flaw of the technology but rather its distribution.

im not trying to turn this into a nxt thing, honestly.. the issue i have is that you have made a very bold claim that i know to be false, nxt just happens to be the coin that i know most about and happens to be the coin that does in fact reach consensus in a totally decetralised way.

"If Nxt has fixed all these problems thats great"

you should know the answer to this if you have done as much research as you claim and if you had done the prior due diligence you would know that the claim you have made is false.

i politely request that you remove the false claim made or provide proof as to why it is true.

apologies for derailing your thread.

ps. im not doubting your abilities as a coder or leader of a community, i would just like to address the fore mentioned issue because such a claim shines a bad light on every PoS system previous to yours, some of which other than nxt, may very well achieve consensus in a distributed manner..


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Post by: almond on October 10, 2014, 09:47:23 PM
hello,

will the breakout website accept bitcoin or other altcoins as gaming currency ?


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Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 10, 2014, 09:54:22 PM
hello,

will the breakout website accept bitcoin or other altcoins as gaming currency ?

We will definitely be accepting Bitcoin.  We have an in-house exchange that will act as a gateway for alt currencies and their community to play on our platforms with an all-in-one solution.



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Post by: DailyModo on October 10, 2014, 11:35:27 PM
Here's an article about breakout coin hope you guys enjoy it http://coin-network.com/breakout-gaming-and-breakout-coin-time-for-the-revolution/

DailyModo,

Thank you for the tremendous article!!

You are welcome!


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Post by: brother3 on October 11, 2014, 12:11:39 AM
looks interesting. watching  8)

Thanks for your interest!


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Post by: JakeThePanda on October 11, 2014, 12:18:52 AM
This coin is going to be sick.  I got my btc ready to shove.  Ship it! Holla! :D


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Post by: brother3 on October 11, 2014, 12:46:54 AM
This coin is going to be sick.  I got my btc ready to shove.  Ship it! Holla! :D

Jake, I just love the fact that you are on the thread  ;D


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Post by: brother3 on October 11, 2014, 02:32:34 AM


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Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 11, 2014, 03:05:38 AM
Hello, just wanted to point out something to people that are having a hard time understanding why BRO will be a huge hit.

Everyone at the BitAngels and inSide Bitcoin Conference were complaining that the problem with these alternative coins is that they have no marketing behind them and no liquidity.  There is no sustainable model that can support prices of these coins.

Enter Breakout Gaming.  Professional multi-million dollar marketing entering into a $40Bn market.  Gaming is the number one use of all crypto coins, up to 70% by some estimates. 

Breakout Gaming plans to have 750,000 registered users over the next two years.  Players that register on our gaming site to play that buy-in with "fiat"  currency to buy BRO chips must be backed by a similar reserve in BRO coins.  That means Breakout Gaming MUST buy BRO coins on a daily basis to meet those reserve requirements.  That could be millions a day, depending on the volume.  Now go to coinmarketcap.com and look at the daily trading volume of the top ten coins.  Pitiful.

If Breakout Gaming captures even a sliver of the traditional gaming market as we plan.  Good things will happen.



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Post by: barabbas on October 11, 2014, 03:37:40 AM
Hello, just wanted to point out something to people that are having a hard time understanding why BRO will be a huge hit.

Everyone at the BitAngels and inSide Bitcoin Conference were complaining that the problem with these alternative coins is that they have no marketing behind them and no liquidity.  There is no sustainable model that can support prices of these coins.

Enter Breakout Gaming.  Professional multi-million dollar marketing entering into a $40Bn market.  Gaming is the number one use of all crypto coins, up to 70% by some estimates. 

Breakout Gaming plans to have 750,000 registered users over the next two years.  Players that register on our gaming site to play that buy-in with "fiat"  currency to buy BRO chips must be backed by a similar reserve in BRO coins.  That means Breakout Gaming MUST buy BRO coins on a daily basis to meet those reserve requirements.  That could be millions a day, depending on the volume.  Now go to coinmarketcap.com and look at the daily trading volume of the top ten coins.  Pitiful.

If Breakout Gaming captures even a sliver of the traditional gaming market as we plan.  Good things will happen.



BRO is, indeed, the first digital coin that will be used from day one. Not even Bitcoin can claim that. I am quite sure your ICO is going to be a success of historical proportions. Deservedly so...

But I see some rather serious, troubling problems that hadn't been addressed: Besides being a crypto currency of no technical innovation (none is needed, mind you), what BRO is, above anything else, is a Vegas Virtual Supercasino. And, as such, is requires a bunch of things, chief among them, a huge payroll. Maintenance, security, supervision, R&D... Let's assume that you collect $5 million dollars in the ICO. You are a big "team" already. So even though it is a huge amount, it isn't so big when you spread it about. And then what? What would be the incentives for people to remain "working" on the project? The big money would have been made, crypto-style (that means instantly), why not move on to the next "thing" instead of hanging on, for no additional payment?
Who will mind the store?

Additionally: Yes people will continue coming in and needing BRO to buy-in. How are those pots, tournaments, etc. going to operate? As a business? If so, this will be no different than Caesar's Palace issuing a specific number of coins and keeping 67% of them while selling to the public the rest. Investment opportunity? For Caesar's, not for investors... in other words, what is the business model, what, beyond the bro-bergstake, does the investors get?


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Post by: nhrf3 on October 11, 2014, 05:59:57 AM
Hello, just wanted to point out something to people that are having a hard time understanding why BRO will be a huge hit.

Everyone at the BitAngels and inSide Bitcoin Conference were complaining that the problem with these alternative coins is that they have no marketing behind them and no liquidity.  There is no sustainable model that can support prices of these coins.

Enter Breakout Gaming.  Professional multi-million dollar marketing entering into a $40Bn market.  Gaming is the number one use of all crypto coins, up to 70% by some estimates. 

Breakout Gaming plans to have 750,000 registered users over the next two years.  Players that register on our gaming site to play that buy-in with "fiat"  currency to buy BRO chips must be backed by a similar reserve in BRO coins.  That means Breakout Gaming MUST buy BRO coins on a daily basis to meet those reserve requirements.  That could be millions a day, depending on the volume.  Now go to coinmarketcap.com and look at the daily trading volume of the top ten coins.  Pitiful.

If Breakout Gaming captures even a sliver of the traditional gaming market as we plan.  Good things will happen.



BRO is, indeed, the first digital coin that will be used from day one. Not even Bitcoin can claim that. I am quite sure your ICO is going to be a success of historical proportions. Deservedly so...

But I see some rather serious, troubling problems that hadn't been addressed: Besides being a crypto currency of no technical innovation (none is needed, mind you), what BRO is, above anything else, is a Vegas Virtual Supercasino. And, as such, is requires a bunch of things, chief among them, a huge payroll. Maintenance, security, supervision, R&D... Let's assume that you collect $5 million dollars in the ICO. You are a big "team" already. So even though it is a huge amount, it isn't so big when you spread it about. And then what? What would be the incentives for people to remain "working" on the project? The big money would have been made, crypto-style (that means instantly), why not move on to the next "thing" instead of hanging on, for no additional payment?
Who will mind the store?

Additionally: Yes people will continue coming in and needing BRO to buy-in. How are those pots, tournaments, etc. going to operate? As a business? If so, this will be no different than Caesar's Palace issuing a specific number of coins and keeping 67% of them while selling to the public the rest. Investment opportunity? For Caesar's, not for investors... in other words, what is the business model, what, beyond the bro-bergstake, does the investors get?


Great breakdown and questions- hopefully something beyond a secret project like The Three Stooges and James are offering.



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Post by: barabbas on October 11, 2014, 06:16:24 AM


Great breakdown and questions- hopefully something beyond a secret project like The Three Stooges and James are offering.



Thank you but that is not relevant here. Besides, IF (HUGE IF) James delivers as he has up until now, even the Stooges will look (kind of) good.


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Post by: mydearvoice on October 11, 2014, 06:26:16 AM
So expensive price, I can not accept ???


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Post by: Randy M Kim on October 11, 2014, 08:28:09 AM
Hello, just wanted to point out something to people that are having a hard time understanding why BRO will be a huge hit.

Everyone at the BitAngels and inSide Bitcoin Conference were complaining that the problem with these alternative coins is that they have no marketing behind them and no liquidity.  There is no sustainable model that can support prices of these coins.

Enter Breakout Gaming.  Professional multi-million dollar marketing entering into a $40Bn market.  Gaming is the number one use of all crypto coins, up to 70% by some estimates. 

Breakout Gaming plans to have 750,000 registered users over the next two years.  Players that register on our gaming site to play that buy-in with "fiat"  currency to buy BRO chips must be backed by a similar reserve in BRO coins.  That means Breakout Gaming MUST buy BRO coins on a daily basis to meet those reserve requirements.  That could be millions a day, depending on the volume.  Now go to coinmarketcap.com and look at the daily trading volume of the top ten coins.  Pitiful.

If Breakout Gaming captures even a sliver of the traditional gaming market as we plan.  Good things will happen.



BRO is, indeed, the first digital coin that will be used from day one. Not even Bitcoinn can claim that. I am quite sure your ICO is going to be a success of historical proportions. Deservedly so...

But I see some rather serious, troubling problems that hadn't been addressed: Besides being a crypto currency of no technical innovation (none is needed, mind you), what BRO is, above anything else, is a Vegas Virtual Supercasino. And, as such, is requires a bunch of things, chief among them, a huge payroll. Maintenance, security, supervision, R&D... Let's assume that you collect $5 million dollars in the ICO. You are a big "team" already. So even though it is a huge amount, it isn't so big when you spread it about. And then what? What would be the incentives for people to remain "working" on the project? The big money would have been made, crypto-style (that means instantly), why not move on to the next "thing" instead of hanging on, for no additional payment?
Who will mind the store?

Additionally: Yes people will continue coming in and needing BRO to buy-in. How are those pots, tournaments, etc. going to operate? As a business? If so, this will be no different than Caesar's Palace issuing a specific number of coins and keeping 67% of them while selling to the public the rest. Investment opportunity? For Caesar's, not for investors... in other words, what is the business model, what, beyond the bro-bergstake, does the investors get?
I am definitely not as qualified as others involved in our project to answer your concerns but they appear to be sleeping so I will try. 
Most importantly you must understand we are BREAKOUT GAMING.  BRO is being created to promote Breakout Gaming.  When BRO coin is successful it sets the framework for a successful Breakout Gaming.  That is our intention.  All current employees will retain employment as to further develop Breakout Gaming.  Online gaming is a $40,000,000,000 annual business.  If as expected we capture a portion of this tremendous market all employees will have a lucrative job for years to come.  Why would they leave ?  Why would we quit on the project and leave behind a chance of sharing in a $40B annual market for five million dollars and destroy our initial dream ? Would you ?  Of the 67% of the remaining premined coins the lions share will be given away in promotions not kept by the devs.  That's how we plan to develope our 750,000 registered users. We are not going to stop with the virtual super casino only.  We plan to offer other uses for BRO coin outside of casino games.  Backgammon would be one example.  Who knows.  Maybe sometime in the future a father who would never consider casino gaming or poker will be playing chess for BRO's with his son who is across the country away from home for college.  When this happens do you think your initial investment in the ICO will be profitable?
Once again.  I am not the best Breakout representative to answer your inquiry but I hope my explanation makes some sense to you. 
Thank you for your interest in Breakout Gaming



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Post by: barabbas on October 11, 2014, 08:55:46 AM
Hello, just wanted to point out something to people that are having a hard time understanding why BRO will be a huge hit.

Everyone at the BitAngels and inSide Bitcoin Conference were complaining that the problem with these alternative coins is that they have no marketing behind them and no liquidity.  There is no sustainable model that can support prices of these coins.

Enter Breakout Gaming.  Professional multi-million dollar marketing entering into a $40Bn market.  Gaming is the number one use of all crypto coins, up to 70% by some estimates. 

Breakout Gaming plans to have 750,000 registered users over the next two years.  Players that register on our gaming site to play that buy-in with "fiat"  currency to buy BRO chips must be backed by a similar reserve in BRO coins.  That means Breakout Gaming MUST buy BRO coins on a daily basis to meet those reserve requirements.  That could be millions a day, depending on the volume.  Now go to coinmarketcap.com and look at the daily trading volume of the top ten coins.  Pitiful.

If Breakout Gaming captures even a sliver of the traditional gaming market as we plan.  Good things will happen.



BRO is, indeed, the first digital coin that will be used from day one. Not even Bitcoinn can claim that. I am quite sure your ICO is going to be a success of historical proportions. Deservedly so...

But I see some rather serious, troubling problems that hadn't been addressed: Besides being a crypto currency of no technical innovation (none is needed, mind you), what BRO is, above anything else, is a Vegas Virtual Supercasino. And, as such, is requires a bunch of things, chief among them, a huge payroll. Maintenance, security, supervision, R&D... Let's assume that you collect $5 million dollars in the ICO. You are a big "team" already. So even though it is a huge amount, it isn't so big when you spread it about. And then what? What would be the incentives for people to remain "working" on the project? The big money would have been made, crypto-style (that means instantly), why not move on to the next "thing" instead of hanging on, for no additional payment?
Who will mind the store?

Additionally: Yes people will continue coming in and needing BRO to buy-in. How are those pots, tournaments, etc. going to operate? As a business? If so, this will be no different than Caesar's Palace issuing a specific number of coins and keeping 67% of them while selling to the public the rest. Investment opportunity? For Caesar's, not for investors... in other words, what is the business model, what, beyond the bro-bergstake, does the investors get?
I am definitely not as qualified as others involved in our project to answer your concerns but they appear to be sleeping so I will try. 
Most importantly you must understand we are BREAKOUT GAMING.  BRO is being created to promote Breakout Gaming.  When BRO coin is successful it sets the framework for a successful Breakout Gaming.  That is our intention.  All current employees will retain employment as to further develop Breakout Gaming.  Online gaming is a $40,000,000,000 annual business.  If as expected we capture a portion of this tremendous market all employees will have a lucrative job for years to come.  Why would they leave ?  Why would we quit on the project and leave behind a chance of sharing in a $40B annual market for five million dollars and destroy our initial dream ? Would you ?  Of the 67% of the remaining premined coins the lions share will be given away in promotions not kept by the devs.  That's how we plan to develope our 750,000 registered users. We are not going to stop with the virtual super casino only.  We plan to offer other uses for BRO coin outside of casino games.  Backgammon would be one example.  Who knows.  Maybe sometime in the future a father who would never consider casino gaming or poker will be playing chess for BRO's with his son who is across the country away from home for college.  When this happens do you think your initial investment in the ICO will be profitable?
Once again.  I am not the best Breakout representative to answer your inquiry but I hope my explanation makes some sense to you. 
Thank you for your interest in Breakout Gaming



Thank you for your answer, incomplete and not very knowledgeable as it is. It DOES confirm though that this ICO is, in fact, a crowd funding of a Virtual Super Casino and a business behind it on the side... which is fine and dandy except.... what's in it for me?. You seem to miss the point in my very specific questions. The Virtual Super Casino, in order to operate, subsist and progress, needs INCOME. Income way beyond -and sustained- the ICO crowdfunding. Where does it come from? Once again: Yes the BRO and the Bergstake will -potentially- be valuable, perhaps more valuable than their ICO price -but maybe not- because, in the end, the Casino will operate just like any other real-life casino and everyone knows that ONLY the Casino makes money. Not the customers and -in this case in particular- certainly not the investors. How could they. I don't care if you capture 1% of the 40$ billion industry of half of it or the entire enchilada... the question remains: What's in it for me?

And the way I see it, the answer to that question is NADA. Or next to nothing, best case scenario.

You, on the other hand, will do spectacularly, I'm quite sure of it. Congrats in advance


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Post by: gwada971 on October 11, 2014, 08:12:12 PM
hello

seems interesting, based on cryptonote it will be possible tu mine it with the current cpu/gpu miner (wolf, claymore) ???



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Post by: jaybny on October 11, 2014, 08:38:52 PM
besides being a crypto currency of no technical innovation (none is needed, mind you)

bergstake is a huge technical innovation.

what, beyond the bro-bergstake, does the investors get?

What you are really asking is whats the value proposition of Breakoutcoin? Its true that as an investor you "only" get  breakoutcoins with bergtsake. BRO is not just a crypto-currency, its also a token that will be integrated into the core of Breakout Gaming.

Assumption: Breakout Gaming will be a successful global gaming company, and attract a large loyal customer base, with millions of fiat deposits monthly.

-- Breakout Gaming will be licensed and regulated (outside the US).

-- Gaming regulations require gaming companies to maintain a currency balance, to cover all customer deposits and potential winnings.

-- BRO will be the reference currency for Breakout Gaming. All chips/tokens, used for all games, will be denominated in BRO


Assumption: Breakout Gaming will continuously grow its customer base and deposits.

-- At any given time there will be large amount of customer deposits sitting on Breakout Gamings books, this amount will be steadily rising.

-- Breakout Gaming must hold enough BRO to cover all these deposits. As deposits grow, they will be required to hold more and more BRO

The fact that Breakout Gaming must maintain a balance in BRO to cover all fiat/BTC/BRO deposits, creates value for BRO!


On its own, BRO is just another alt-coin, and will only be valuable if used as a medium of exchange. With Breakout Gaming, BRO has value independent of its use as a currency. In fact BRO should not be thought of as a general purpose currency at all. Its more like a crypto-token, that can be used as a currency if desired.

How many coins, including Bitcoin, have any value other than it being a medium of exchange? This is the potential value that investors get with BRO. Assuming Breakout Gaming is a smashing success, BRO should be more valuable then just another alt-coin clone.

To me, BRO is more like Bitcoin 2.0, or a DAC / DOA.


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Post by: brother3 on October 11, 2014, 09:14:30 PM
So expensive price, I can not accept ???

Not sure what you mean?  This is a no cap ICO so we do not set the price.  The investors will determine the price.


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Post by: WeGotCactus on October 11, 2014, 11:14:34 PM
You have mentioned that you will only offer games to players where it is legal to play.

What measures are you taking to enforce this?

1. If I am a US citizen traveling abroad in a territory where it is legal to play, will the software let me play?

2. If I am a citizen in a country where it is legal to play but I am traveling abroad in the US, does the software let me play?

3. One of the appeals of cryptocurrency is obviously privacy, but what privacy compromises do you have to make to satisfy your regulators? (like getting copies of government issued IDs of players)?


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Post by: Mayhem007 on October 12, 2014, 12:47:52 AM
who gives a crap about all this other nonsense, i only care if the coin has potential to make me money. ive been scammed a few times by exchanges and half thought out alts.  this is the first time an alt has my interest peaked.  there seems to be a lot of money and well known people backing it up, unlike 100s of other shit coins.


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Post by: jaybny on October 12, 2014, 01:31:03 AM
who gives a crap about all this other nonsense, i only care if the coin has potential to make me money. ive been scammed a few times by exchanges and half thought out alts.  this is the first time an alt has my interest peaked.  there seems to be a lot of money and well known people backing it up, unlike 100s of other shit coins.

there we go. i would say your main risk is re-ivestment / duration. but don't be afraid to jump in. the waters green!


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Post by: kodtycoon on October 12, 2014, 01:44:34 AM
who gives a crap about all this other nonsense, i only care if the coin has potential to make me money. ive been scammed a few times by exchanges and half thought out alts.  this is the first time an alt has my interest peaked.  there seems to be a lot of money and well known people backing it up, unlike 100s of other shit coins.

there we go. i would say your main risk is re-ivestment / duration. but don't be afraid to jump in. the waters green!


jay, have you removed that very bold false claim? i havnt seen you post any proof to back it up or a response to my last post.

Mayhem007, if you want to see what an alt with SERIOUS potential looks like, check my sig.. also you should read my comments on the last page. it seems the dev has not followed sound advice to remove a totally misinformed claim from the OP, that i now know due to the lack of action, is obviously only their for hype.


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Post by: jaybny on October 12, 2014, 01:52:18 AM
who gives a crap about all this other nonsense, i only care if the coin has potential to make me money. ive been scammed a few times by exchanges and half thought out alts.  this is the first time an alt has my interest peaked.  there seems to be a lot of money and well known people backing it up, unlike 100s of other shit coins.

there we go. i would say your main risk is re-ivestment / duration. but don't be afraid to jump in. the waters green!


jay, have you removed that very bold false claim? i havnt seen you post any proof to back it up or a response to my last post.

Mayhem007, if you want to see what an alt with SERIOUS potential looks like, check my sig.. also you should read my comments on the last page. it seems the dev has not followed sound advice to remove a totally misinformed claim from the OP, that i now know due to the lack of action, is obviously only their for hype.
relax. we have lots of work on our hands. Nxt is not mentioned at all here. stop trying to push Nxt, we all know its Java and better then all alt-coins.
ATTENTION: NXT HAS REACHED DISTRIBUTED CONSENSUS AS WELL!!

moving on

p.s. think you should try to deal with this first: NXT (http://www.nxtscam.org)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 12, 2014, 01:58:15 AM
i havnt seen you post any proof to back it up or a response to my last post.


(fyi He wants me to prove that Nxt has NOT reached distributed consensus.. or take our claim off all the marketing stuff.. and he thinks i can just snap my fingers... )

You want me to research and follow all the Nxt missionaries?

Why dont you prove to us all the Nxt is 100% PoS reaching distributed consensus.. what is it? every 10 seconds? and no developer checkpoints. lulz

I will prove that bergstake is.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: kodtycoon on October 12, 2014, 02:34:41 AM
who gives a crap about all this other nonsense, i only care if the coin has potential to make me money. ive been scammed a few times by exchanges and half thought out alts.  this is the first time an alt has my interest peaked.  there seems to be a lot of money and well known people backing it up, unlike 100s of other shit coins.

there we go. i would say your main risk is re-ivestment / duration. but don't be afraid to jump in. the waters green!


jay, have you removed that very bold false claim? i havnt seen you post any proof to back it up or a response to my last post.

Mayhem007, if you want to see what an alt with SERIOUS potential looks like, check my sig.. also you should read my comments on the last page. it seems the dev has not followed sound advice to remove a totally misinformed claim from the OP, that i now know due to the lack of action, is obviously only their for hype.
relax. we have lots of work on our hands. Nxt is not mentioned at all here. stop trying to push Nxt, we all know its Java and better then all alt-coins.
ATTENTION: NXT HAS REACHED DISTRIBUTED CONSENSUS AS WELL!!

moving on

i havnt seen you post any proof to back it up or a response to my last post.


(fyi He wants me to prove that Nxt has NOT reached distributed consensus.. or take our claim off all the marketing stuff.. and he thinks i can just snap my fingers... )

You want me to research and follow all the Nxt missionaries?

Why dont you prove to us all the Nxt is 100% PoS reaching distributed consensus.. what is it? every 10 seconds? and no developer checkpoints. lulz

I will prove that bergstake is.


i think you should have done the prior due diligence before starting a project of this scale and if you had you would know that you are not the first to reach distributed consensus in a distributed manner using PoS. you would not have made that claim, you would not have had to code "bergstake" to solve an issue that has been solved already, you would have had less coding to do, we would not be discussing this and above all you would not be missleading investors whether it was intentional or not.

if you think im a troll, go through my post history.. 2500+ posts and zero troll posts.. i brought this to your attention so that it could be rectified not knowing if it was a simple mistake or if it was intentionally included as a hype builder - the latter seems to have proven the most probable from your response. stop trying to brand me as a coin pumper.. as you can see from my sig, im not even invested in nxt. rather a different platform. i only used nxt as my example, like i have said before, because it is the PoS coin that i know best and just happens to be the coin that invalidates the claims made by yourself.

you should be very capable of doing this kind of research prior to starting any code and you being the main dev should probably know all this as well seeing as you are trying to solve "issues" with PoS currencies.. and you should know ALL of the major PoS technologies better than most but that seems to have proven a false assumption of you.






Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: pvnamk19 on October 12, 2014, 02:45:06 AM
Hi Devs,
Why don't you share gaming profits, let's say 1%, to owners of Bergstake?.
By doing that, lots of BTCs will pour to your ICO and you will have many advantages for long term development.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 12, 2014, 02:48:39 AM
who gives a crap about all this other nonsense, i only care if the coin has potential to make me money. ive been scammed a few times by exchanges and half thought out alts.  this is the first time an alt has my interest peaked.  there seems to be a lot of money and well known people backing it up, unlike 100s of other shit coins.

there we go. i would say your main risk is re-ivestment / duration. but don't be afraid to jump in. the waters green!


jay, have you removed that very bold false claim? i havnt seen you post any proof to back it up or a response to my last post.

Mayhem007, if you want to see what an alt with SERIOUS potential looks like, check my sig.. also you should read my comments on the last page. it seems the dev has not followed sound advice to remove a totally misinformed claim from the OP, that i now know due to the lack of action, is obviously only their for hype.
relax. we have lots of work on our hands. Nxt is not mentioned at all here. stop trying to push Nxt, we all know its Java and better then all alt-coins.
ATTENTION: NXT HAS REACHED DISTRIBUTED CONSENSUS AS WELL!!

moving on

i havnt seen you post any proof to back it up or a response to my last post.


(fyi He wants me to prove that Nxt has NOT reached distributed consensus.. or take our claim off all the marketing stuff.. and he thinks i can just snap my fingers... )

You want me to research and follow all the Nxt missionaries?

Why dont you prove to us all the Nxt is 100% PoS reaching distributed consensus.. what is it? every 10 seconds? and no developer checkpoints. lulz

I will prove that bergstake is.


i think you should have done the prior due diligence before starting a project of this scale and if you had you would know that you are not the first to reach distributed consensus in a distributed manner using PoS. you would not have made that claim, you would not have had to code "bergstake" to solve an issue that has been solved already, you would have had less coding to do, we would not be discussing this and above all you would not be missleading investors whether it was intentional or not.

if you think im a troll, go through my post history.. 2500+ posts and zero troll posts.. i brought this to your attention so that it could be rectified not knowing if it was a simple mistake or if it was intentionally included as a hype builder - the latter seems to have proven the most probable from your response. stop trying to brand me as a coin pumper.. as you can see from my sig, im not even invested in nxt. rather a different platform. i only used nxt as my example, like i have said before, because it is the PoS coin that i know best and just happens to be the coin that invalidates the claims made by yourself.

you should be very capable of doing this kind of research prior to starting any code and you being the main dev should probably know all this as well seeing as you are trying to solve "issues" with PoS currencies.. and you should know ALL of the major PoS technologies better than most but that seems to have proven a false assumption of you.






i did the research and it was inconclusive, I've been asking technical questions to NXT devs throughout the years, never received satisfactory answers.

if you knew how NXT picks block signers, you would have already shared that with us all. no wonder you have 2500+ posts, how much did that 2011 bitcointalk login cost you?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: kodtycoon on October 12, 2014, 02:57:30 AM
who gives a crap about all this other nonsense, i only care if the coin has potential to make me money. ive been scammed a few times by exchanges and half thought out alts.  this is the first time an alt has my interest peaked.  there seems to be a lot of money and well known people backing it up, unlike 100s of other shit coins.

there we go. i would say your main risk is re-ivestment / duration. but don't be afraid to jump in. the waters green!


jay, have you removed that very bold false claim? i havnt seen you post any proof to back it up or a response to my last post.

Mayhem007, if you want to see what an alt with SERIOUS potential looks like, check my sig.. also you should read my comments on the last page. it seems the dev has not followed sound advice to remove a totally misinformed claim from the OP, that i now know due to the lack of action, is obviously only their for hype.
relax. we have lots of work on our hands. Nxt is not mentioned at all here. stop trying to push Nxt, we all know its Java and better then all alt-coins.
ATTENTION: NXT HAS REACHED DISTRIBUTED CONSENSUS AS WELL!!

moving on

i havnt seen you post any proof to back it up or a response to my last post.


(fyi He wants me to prove that Nxt has NOT reached distributed consensus.. or take our claim off all the marketing stuff.. and he thinks i can just snap my fingers... )

You want me to research and follow all the Nxt missionaries?

Why dont you prove to us all the Nxt is 100% PoS reaching distributed consensus.. what is it? every 10 seconds? and no developer checkpoints. lulz

I will prove that bergstake is.


i think you should have done the prior due diligence before starting a project of this scale and if you had you would know that you are not the first to reach distributed consensus in a distributed manner using PoS. you would not have made that claim, you would not have had to code "bergstake" to solve an issue that has been solved already, you would have had less coding to do, we would not be discussing this and above all you would not be missleading investors whether it was intentional or not.

if you think im a troll, go through my post history.. 2500+ posts and zero troll posts.. i brought this to your attention so that it could be rectified not knowing if it was a simple mistake or if it was intentionally included as a hype builder - the latter seems to have proven the most probable from your response. stop trying to brand me as a coin pumper.. as you can see from my sig, im not even invested in nxt. rather a different platform. i only used nxt as my example, like i have said before, because it is the PoS coin that i know best and just happens to be the coin that invalidates the claims made by yourself.

you should be very capable of doing this kind of research prior to starting any code and you being the main dev should probably know all this as well seeing as you are trying to solve "issues" with PoS currencies.. and you should know ALL of the major PoS technologies better than most but that seems to have proven a false assumption of you.






i did the research and it was inconclusive, I've been asking technical questions to NXT devs throughout the years, never received satisfactory answers.

if you knew how NXT picks block signers, you would have already shared that with us all. no wonder you have 2500+ posts, how much did that 2011 bitcointalk login cost you?
general overview of forging (https://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Whitepaper:Nxt#Block_Creation_.28Forging.29.5Bsub:Block-Creation-.28Forging.29.5D)

in depth mathematical explanation of the forging mechanism that includes how nxt picks block signers (http://www.docdroid.net/e29h/forging0-5-2.pdf.html)

its all there..

i already shared the paper with you but you chose to ignore it.



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 12, 2014, 03:34:22 AM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 12, 2014, 03:50:23 AM
who gives a crap about all this other nonsense, i only care if the coin has potential to make me money. ive been scammed a few times by exchanges and half thought out alts.  this is the first time an alt has my interest peaked.  there seems to be a lot of money and well known people backing it up, unlike 100s of other shit coins.

there we go. i would say your main risk is re-ivestment / duration. but don't be afraid to jump in. the waters green!


jay, have you removed that very bold false claim? i havnt seen you post any proof to back it up or a response to my last post.

Mayhem007, if you want to see what an alt with SERIOUS potential looks like, check my sig.. also you should read my comments on the last page. it seems the dev has not followed sound advice to remove a totally misinformed claim from the OP, that i now know due to the lack of action, is obviously only their for hype.
relax. we have lots of work on our hands. Nxt is not mentioned at all here. stop trying to push Nxt, we all know its Java and better then all alt-coins.
ATTENTION: NXT HAS REACHED DISTRIBUTED CONSENSUS AS WELL!!

moving on

i havnt seen you post any proof to back it up or a response to my last post.


(fyi He wants me to prove that Nxt has NOT reached distributed consensus.. or take our claim off all the marketing stuff.. and he thinks i can just snap my fingers... )

You want me to research and follow all the Nxt missionaries?

Why dont you prove to us all the Nxt is 100% PoS reaching distributed consensus.. what is it? every 10 seconds? and no developer checkpoints. lulz

I will prove that bergstake is.


i think you should have done the prior due diligence before starting a project of this scale and if you had you would know that you are not the first to reach distributed consensus in a distributed manner using PoS. you would not have made that claim, you would not have had to code "bergstake" to solve an issue that has been solved already, you would have had less coding to do, we would not be discussing this and above all you would not be missleading investors whether it was intentional or not.

if you think im a troll, go through my post history.. 2500+ posts and zero troll posts.. i brought this to your attention so that it could be rectified not knowing if it was a simple mistake or if it was intentionally included as a hype builder - the latter seems to have proven the most probable from your response. stop trying to brand me as a coin pumper.. as you can see from my sig, im not even invested in nxt. rather a different platform. i only used nxt as my example, like i have said before, because it is the PoS coin that i know best and just happens to be the coin that invalidates the claims made by yourself.

you should be very capable of doing this kind of research prior to starting any code and you being the main dev should probably know all this as well seeing as you are trying to solve "issues" with PoS currencies.. and you should know ALL of the major PoS technologies better than most but that seems to have proven a false assumption of you.






i did the research and it was inconclusive, I've been asking technical questions to NXT devs throughout the years, never received satisfactory answers.

if you knew how NXT picks block signers, you would have already shared that with us all. no wonder you have 2500+ posts, how much did that 2011 bitcointalk login cost you?
general overview of forging (https://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Whitepaper:Nxt#Block_Creation_.28Forging.29.5Bsub:Block-Creation-.28Forging.29.5D)

in depth mathematical explanation of the forging mechanism that includes how nxt picks block signers (http://www.docdroid.net/e29h/forging0-5-2.pdf.html)

its all there..

i already shared the paper with you but you chose to ignore it.


can you explain how it works or not? even a little bit?

Quote
This feature of the Nxt forging algorithm helps form the basis for the development and implementation of the Transparent Forging algorithm. Since this algorithm has not yet completely been implemented, and because its implications on the Nxt network are significant, it will be outlined in a separate paper.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: mistercoin on October 12, 2014, 04:04:54 AM
Very nice indeed. Another ICO to make mah 0.024BTC turn into moarrr!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 12, 2014, 04:38:44 AM
Very nice indeed. Another ICO to make mah 0.024BTC turn into moarrr!

Have at it!
The minimum purchase amount will be 0.01 BTC  :D


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 12, 2014, 06:26:29 AM
who gives a crap about all this other nonsense, i only care if the coin has potential to make me money. ive been scammed a few times by exchanges and half thought out alts.  this is the first time an alt has my interest peaked.  there seems to be a lot of money and well known people backing it up, unlike 100s of other shit coins.

 ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 12, 2014, 06:53:28 AM
who gives a crap about all this other nonsense, i only care if the coin has potential to make me money. ive been scammed a few times by exchanges and half thought out alts.  this is the first time an alt has my interest peaked.  there seems to be a lot of money and well known people backing it up, unlike 100s of other shit coins.

 ;D
You are correct about both assumptions mayhem.  A ton of money already invested and extremely well known poker players involved in Breakout Gaming and BRO coin. 

I hope my other teammates explained and resolved your concerns
better than I did.  My job is only player liaison. 


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: brother3 on October 12, 2014, 07:42:03 AM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: CryptoTrader-99 on October 12, 2014, 08:08:55 AM
how is bergstake different from POS?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: barabbas on October 12, 2014, 09:56:27 AM
I believe a got quite a grasp of what is on offer here:

1.- a VERY DIFFERENT kind of digital currency

2.- also an asset, Bergstake (which is similar to other assets such as NXTVentures or SuperNET in that they are meant to continue producing revenues in the      future, in the form of BRO)

Nothing else. Breakout Gaming is an entirely different thing whose level of success or failure will greatly influence the value of BRO and, logically, Bergstake.

If Breakout Gaming is successful and ANY LEVEL - meaning they make money-, BRO will be very valuable (the more successful Breakout Gaming is, the more valuable both BRO and Bergstake will be); if Breakout Gaming is NOT successful at all, both BRO and Bergstake will be worth ZERO.

Now, if this were a conventional business model, that would give these guys a complete clean slate of 100% approval. This being crypto world, caution is always advisable. This is difficult to explain because BRO, as I stated above, is a very different kind of crypto currency but I'll try to paint the picture of some troubling potential scenarios: In one  way, this is like a new coin, fully pre-mined, in which the dev keeps 67% for himself. Or a big whale gets his hands on 67% of the project. They can, potentially dump big time and send the price almost to zero and then buy back much cheaper... rinse and repeat. Sounds familiar? I'm sure everyone is by now familiar with the Black Hand modus operandi.

Before the entire BRO team comes refuting this possibility, use your own logic and you will see that it is not only possible but even likely. It is quite easy and effective too, if the presumed liquidity is as big as it can be (and I am quite sure it eventually will). Furthermore, no one could possibly know that it is going on. Food for thought: You will NEVER know what Breakout Gaming is doing with their coins, their bergstakes, their rakes and commissions and the bergstaked coins. And to be perfectly frank, if it was me, I most definitely would manipulate the prices to sell high and buy back cheaper again and again, so I have to assume that they will too. Until regulation comes to crypto, there's nothing illegal about it, so why not? We are talking major, major, MAJOR potential profits for Breakout Gaming from  that type of LEGAL manipulation and operations.

Other than that -and especially if there are additional incentives for early investors-, I only see a monstruous ICO of historical proportions and a ton of money for Breakout Gaming.

Incentives? I can foresee several, including as Class A or VipBRO, besides the one already announced. Either way, it is going to be a huge success because the idea is as simple as brilliant.

Congratulations in advance.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: crazywack on October 12, 2014, 10:07:43 AM
What will the coin price be? Or will it be a share of total btc raised? Hoping for fixed price/set btc limit. Would benefit the investors more I do believe.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: Gizfreak on October 12, 2014, 11:01:57 AM
I'm kinda getting attached to barrabas's extensive TA's and I agree to him stating investing in any altcoin is a big, big gamble.
Nevertheless because BRO is a different coin in many ways, I'll keep watching this one and maybe invest in it later on.
For now I am more busy with Checkcoin, as they also got a very different approach to crypto.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: ofortuna on October 12, 2014, 12:13:44 PM
What will the coin price be? Or will it be a share of total btc raised? Hoping for fixed price/set btc limit. Would benefit the investors more I do believe.

Hey Crazywack,

It will be a pool of 4.5 million BRO/bergstake shared among total btc as you said but with an incentive bonus of up to 10% for early in.  We feel this is the best option where we can reward those who have been following BRO while not shutting out those who join late.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: kryptologist on October 12, 2014, 03:39:17 PM
2 million coins mined after 2 years. 14 million coins pre-mined...... DYOR and please don't support these coins that are ruining crypto. People need to take a stance.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: kodtycoon on October 12, 2014, 04:14:51 PM
who gives a crap about all this other nonsense, i only care if the coin has potential to make me money. ive been scammed a few times by exchanges and half thought out alts.  this is the first time an alt has my interest peaked.  there seems to be a lot of money and well known people backing it up, unlike 100s of other shit coins.

there we go. i would say your main risk is re-ivestment / duration. but don't be afraid to jump in. the waters green!


jay, have you removed that very bold false claim? i havnt seen you post any proof to back it up or a response to my last post.

Mayhem007, if you want to see what an alt with SERIOUS potential looks like, check my sig.. also you should read my comments on the last page. it seems the dev has not followed sound advice to remove a totally misinformed claim from the OP, that i now know due to the lack of action, is obviously only their for hype.
relax. we have lots of work on our hands. Nxt is not mentioned at all here. stop trying to push Nxt, we all know its Java and better then all alt-coins.
ATTENTION: NXT HAS REACHED DISTRIBUTED CONSENSUS AS WELL!!

moving on

i havnt seen you post any proof to back it up or a response to my last post.


(fyi He wants me to prove that Nxt has NOT reached distributed consensus.. or take our claim off all the marketing stuff.. and he thinks i can just snap my fingers... )

You want me to research and follow all the Nxt missionaries?

Why dont you prove to us all the Nxt is 100% PoS reaching distributed consensus.. what is it? every 10 seconds? and no developer checkpoints. lulz

I will prove that bergstake is.


i think you should have done the prior due diligence before starting a project of this scale and if you had you would know that you are not the first to reach distributed consensus in a distributed manner using PoS. you would not have made that claim, you would not have had to code "bergstake" to solve an issue that has been solved already, you would have had less coding to do, we would not be discussing this and above all you would not be missleading investors whether it was intentional or not.

if you think im a troll, go through my post history.. 2500+ posts and zero troll posts.. i brought this to your attention so that it could be rectified not knowing if it was a simple mistake or if it was intentionally included as a hype builder - the latter seems to have proven the most probable from your response. stop trying to brand me as a coin pumper.. as you can see from my sig, im not even invested in nxt. rather a different platform. i only used nxt as my example, like i have said before, because it is the PoS coin that i know best and just happens to be the coin that invalidates the claims made by yourself.

you should be very capable of doing this kind of research prior to starting any code and you being the main dev should probably know all this as well seeing as you are trying to solve "issues" with PoS currencies.. and you should know ALL of the major PoS technologies better than most but that seems to have proven a false assumption of you.






i did the research and it was inconclusive, I've been asking technical questions to NXT devs throughout the years, never received satisfactory answers.

if you knew how NXT picks block signers, you would have already shared that with us all. no wonder you have 2500+ posts, how much did that 2011 bitcointalk login cost you?
general overview of forging (https://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Whitepaper:Nxt#Block_Creation_.28Forging.29.5Bsub:Block-Creation-.28Forging.29.5D)

in depth mathematical explanation of the forging mechanism that includes how nxt picks block signers (http://www.docdroid.net/e29h/forging0-5-2.pdf.html)

its all there..

i already shared the paper with you but you chose to ignore it.


can you explain how it works or not? even a little bit?

Quote
This feature of the Nxt forging algorithm helps form the basis for the development and implementation of the Transparent Forging algorithm. Since this algorithm has not yet completely been implemented, and because its implications on the Nxt network are significant, it will be outlined in a separate paper.

I'm not great at explaining stuff so this is best I could find..  

Quote
Roughly speaking, each account takes the previous block's generation signature and signs it with its own public key, hashes the result, truncates to 64-bits, and divides by its effective account balance. The account that gets the smallest answer wins. Divide it again by the current difficulty (difficulty is the same for all accounts), and that gives the delay in seconds after which the new block can be issued.

The details are in the white paper. See the section on "The Forging Algorithm" in the whitepaper (https://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Whitepaper:Nxt#Nxt.E2.80.99s_Proof_of_Stake_Model). In the actual rule there is no division. The truncated hash of the signed generation signature is called the hit, and the hit has to be less than (difficulty * balance * delay) for the block to be valid. So each second, a bunch of accounts may get picked, with each having equal right to forge

TF algo is not relevant to how blocks are signed currently because the parts that are implemented don't have anything to do with the way signers are. Currently picked.

The math is all there. Correct your mistake and stop misleading investors.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: nhrf3 on October 12, 2014, 04:15:38 PM
What I'd like to know is: why do you guys need crypto? You have the celebrity endorsements who have millions in lifetime earnings and could provide some funding/seek funding themselves.

Why the hell do you need us? Barrabbas wanted to know what's in it for us, but I want to know: What's in it for these professional poker players? Why are they risking their reputation on BRO?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: brother3 on October 12, 2014, 05:57:10 PM
2 million coins mined after 2 years. 14 million coins pre-mined...... DYOR and please don't support these coins that are ruining crypto. People need to take a stance.

7 millions PoW mined after 2 years
14 millions pre-mined:
          a. 4.5 millions for ICO
          b. 2.5 millions for BreakOut Gaming's 40 + members
          c. 7 millions to be given away over 2 years - the exact schedule is on http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/offering/ (http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/offering/)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: brother3 on October 12, 2014, 06:40:15 PM
What will the coin price be? Or will it be a share of total btc raised? Hoping for fixed price/set btc limit. Would benefit the investors more I do believe.

The ICO will be a share of total btc raised, with incentive for early birds.  We feel that the investors should determine the price of BRO.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: brother3 on October 12, 2014, 07:58:43 PM
how is bergstake different from POS?

Bergstake is different from classic coin-stake – it lasts forever and it’s not transferable.  The holder of BRO coupled with Bergstake will have the right to sign blocks in cryptocurrency blockchains.  Even if the new coins are transferred away, the Bergstake remains.  All Bergstake are recorded in the blockchain and owners maintain their private keys.

Proof-of-Bergstake is better understood as an alternative distributed consensus mechanism to the Bitcoin Proof-of-Work mining process. Bergstake solves known issues found in Proof-of-Stake (PoS) blockchains. Bergstake blockchains also have knowledge of alternative forks. This enables someone to present a “Proof-of-Double-Mining” which will destroy the Bergstake as well as its potential block reward. The threat of losing Bergstake and recent virgin coins is incentive to mine only the “real” blockchain. This core feature neutralizes the “nothing-at-stake” weakness found in PoS blockchains.

The algorithm that selects the next block-signer can be gamed in other PoS blockchains. The strategy is known as “stake-grinding” or “costless simulation”, and it entails a nefarious type of “mining” of block data intended just to generate a hash, which allows the signing of the next block. Since Bergstake is recognized in advance, a block-signer assignment algorithm that moderates grinding can be employed. A technique used frequently involves the use of the hash of two prior signers in order to select another signer; another technique entails the selection of N signers based on a pseudo-random number and a current signer.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 12, 2014, 09:24:18 PM
You have mentioned that you will only offer games to players where it is legal to play.

What measures are you taking to enforce this?

1. If I am a US citizen traveling abroad in a territory where it is legal to play, will the software let me play?

2. If I am a citizen in a country where it is legal to play but I am traveling abroad in the US, does the software let me play?

3. One of the appeals of cryptocurrency is obviously privacy, but what privacy compromises do you have to make to satisfy your regulators? (like getting copies of government issued IDs of players)?

Thanks for these important questions.

1.  “Not unless you can satisfy KYC requirements to open an account in a territory where it is legal to play whichever games the question relates."

2.  “No, you would not be able to play games blocked for US-based play."

3.    "Please do not confuse privacy with anonymity; while a player must furnish KYC info to the gaming company, and will not be anonymous, BRO Coin offers crypto users a privacy feature before their funds are deposited or after account funds are cashed out.

"Regulated iGaming companies must have Know Your Customer (“KYC”)  information, such as ids needed to establish identities of account holders. This has been so since 2001. Depending upon the licensing jurisdiction the requirements may vary. (Breakout will be accepting both fiat and crypto player deposits. This opens the games to a much wider market than one limited to players who already have bought a cryptocurrency. Consider/weigh the balance between an unregulated (“no-account”) crypto gaming site, with little way to check for collusion and cheating among anonymous players versus an account-based, regulated gaming operation, built to attract as many players as possible to play, regardless of their preferred transaction method."


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 12, 2014, 10:01:47 PM
What I'd like to know is: why do you guys need crypto? You have the celebrity endorsements who have millions in lifetime earnings and could provide some funding/seek funding themselves.

Why the hell do you need us? Barrabbas wanted to know what's in it for us, but I want to know: What's in it for these professional poker players? Why are they risking their reputation on BRO?


The players, devs, investors, artists, writers, management, etc.. ALL believe in the future of cryptocurrency.  There is considerable monetary/social risk in starting a project such as this, but we all believe the reward is worth it.  We have an opportunity to really advance recognition of crytocurrencies to the general population.  By accepting both crypto and "fiat" currency we have a chance to open doors and introduce crypto to people all over the world in a friendly and accessible manner.

Did you know that by some estimates up to 70% of all transactions on crypto blockchains are gaming/gambling related?  The demographic and growth rate for Fantasy Games is off the charts and phenomenal. The underlying characteristics of crypto coins are tailor-made for gaming.  We want to take advantage of crypto technology and pair it with its most natural partner -- gaming -- a $40Bn market just waiting for the right concept and talent.

The crypto space is still in the wild, wild, west stage with incredible growth ahead of it. As crypto becomes more commonly accepted, our intention is to be pioneers in the crypto gaming space.  We will continually evolve over time and stay two steps ahead of the competition by always presenting top-notch software, customer care, UX, etc..  We plan to grow our user base exponentially over time and we know there is a real opportunity to gain the crypto communities trust and following if we do things transparently and by listening/caring for our community.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: brother3 on October 12, 2014, 10:22:09 PM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: Rayban34 on October 12, 2014, 10:48:19 PM
Holy crapola.

I half-heartedly sauntered into here just before I was about to go to bed and I'm really glad I did now.

Checked out all your promotional material, your website and your ICO offerings. I'm in. Very in.

I do know e-sports is a massive trade worldwide, and you have came up with a very original idea there. Who would have thought? Cryptocurrency and e-sports; you may in fact be pioneers and set a benchmark that will pave the way for other online e-sports vendors and possibly bricks and mortar establishments to accept virtual currency. I'm excited, REALLY EXCITED.

I would expect your ICO takings to be MASSIVE - so I guess I'll be there with my wee bit of btc waiting to get my shares at 12am :)

Good luck with your project, I'm sure it will be awesome :)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: duckfever on October 12, 2014, 11:29:17 PM
I like what I see so far, but I'd like to see some proof of the involvement of the big poker names before I put any money in.

How far into development are the gaming / betting platforms ?

When can we expect each facet of BreakoutGaming.com to launch ?

Thanks  8)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: JakeThePanda on October 12, 2014, 11:33:49 PM
I like what I see so far, but I'd like to see some proof of the involvement of the big poker names before I put any money in.

How far into development are the gaming / betting platforms ?

When can we expect each facet of BreakoutGaming.com to launch ?

Thanks  8)

Check twitter. they are.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: duckfever on October 13, 2014, 12:02:17 AM
Thanks, I see it now.

Will the bergstake be distributed in proportion to how much is bought per-person in the ICO ?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 13, 2014, 12:19:32 AM
Thanks, I see it now.

Will the bergstake be distributed in proportion to how much is bought per-person in the ICO ?

You receive a one-to-one ratio of Bergstake per "virgin" BRO Coins.  So if you end up with 10,000 BRO, you would receive 10,000 Bergstake.  The BRO Coins can be sold independently of the Bergstake.  Bergstake will be tied to your private key and you can earn more BRO during the entire  Proof-of-Bergstake phase.  In effect, your Bergstake becomes a "virtual mining rig" with no energy and equipment costs to you.

If you are not a  miner, the ICO is the only time you will be able to acquire Bergstake.  


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 13, 2014, 01:42:17 AM
Holy crapola.

I half-heartedly sauntered into here just before I was about to go to bed and I'm really glad I did now.

Checked out all your promotional material, your website and your ICO offerings. I'm in. Very in.

I do know e-sports is a massive trade worldwide, and you have came up with a very original idea there. Who would have thought? Cryptocurrency and e-sports; you may in fact be pioneers and set a benchmark that will pave the way for other online e-sports vendors and possibly bricks and mortar establishments to accept virtual currency. I'm excited, REALLY EXCITED.

I would expect your ICO takings to be MASSIVE - so I guess I'll be there with my wee bit of btc waiting to get my shares at 12am :)

Good luck with your project, I'm sure it will be awesome :)

Rayban,

Thanks for your enthusiasm for our project.  We have two sSports teams that we are partnering up with and they are both eagerly waiting for us to launch.  One for Dota2 and one for LOL.  We think Fantasy eSports is a going to be a smash hit along with BRO.

There are major eSports tournaments sponsored by Breakout Gaming being lined up online to be broadcast on twitch.tv.

We welcome you to the Breakout community and we hope that we can provide eSports gamers easier, cheaper, faster transaction processing by using cryptocurrencies.  



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: nhrf3 on October 13, 2014, 01:58:34 AM
What I'd like to know is: why do you guys need crypto? You have the celebrity endorsements who have millions in lifetime earnings and could provide some funding/seek funding themselves.

Why the hell do you need us? Barrabbas wanted to know what's in it for us, but I want to know: What's in it for these professional poker players? Why are they risking their reputation on BRO?


The players, devs, investors, artists, writers, management, etc.. ALL believe in the future of cryptocurrency.  There is considerable monetary/social risk in starting a project such as this, but we all believe the reward is worth it.  We have an opportunity to really advance recognition of crytocurrencies to the general population.  By accepting both crypto and "fiat" currency we have a chance to open doors and introduce crypto to people all over the world in a friendly and accessible manner.

...

How much do you guys anticipate raising in the ICO? Actually, how much will you guys REQUIRE in order to have proper funding to get this thing off the ground?



And I'll ask again, why the hell do you need us? Can't one of your multi-millionaire endorsers convince a venture capitalist or two to jump on board? Are there already VCs lined up?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: nhrf3 on October 13, 2014, 02:00:26 AM
Holy crapola.

I half-heartedly sauntered into here just before I was about to go to bed and I'm really glad I did now.

Checked out all your promotional material, your website and your ICO offerings. I'm in. Very in.

I do know e-sports is a massive trade worldwide, and you have came up with a very original idea there. Who would have thought? Cryptocurrency and e-sports; you may in fact be pioneers and set a benchmark that will pave the way for other online e-sports vendors and possibly bricks and mortar establishments to accept virtual currency. I'm excited, REALLY EXCITED.

I would expect your ICO takings to be MASSIVE - so I guess I'll be there with my wee bit of btc waiting to get my shares at 12am :)

Good luck with your project, I'm sure it will be awesome :)

Rayban,

Thanks for your enthusiasm for our project.  We have two sSports teams that we are partnering up with and they are both eagerly waiting for us to launch.  One for Dota2 and one for LOL.  We think Fantasy eSports is a going to be a smash hit along with BRO.

There are major eSports tournaments sponsored by Breakout Gaming being lined up online to be broadcast on twitch.tv.

We welcome you to the Breakout community and we hope that we can provide eSports gamers easier, cheaper, faster transaction processing by using cryptocurrencies.  



Which teams(Na'Vi, Fnatic, Newbee, etc)? Which major tournaments?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 13, 2014, 02:12:00 AM
Holy crapola.

I half-heartedly sauntered into here just before I was about to go to bed and I'm really glad I did now.

Checked out all your promotional material, your website and your ICO offerings. I'm in. Very in.

I do know e-sports is a massive trade worldwide, and you have came up with a very original idea there. Who would have thought? Cryptocurrency and e-sports; you may in fact be pioneers and set a benchmark that will pave the way for other online e-sports vendors and possibly bricks and mortar establishments to accept virtual currency. I'm excited, REALLY EXCITED.

I would expect your ICO takings to be MASSIVE - so I guess I'll be there with my wee bit of btc waiting to get my shares at 12am :)

Good luck with your project, I'm sure it will be awesome :)

Rayban,

Thanks for your enthusiasm for our project.  We have two sSports teams that we are partnering up with and they are both eagerly waiting for us to launch.  One for Dota2 and one for LOL.  We think Fantasy eSports is a going to be a smash hit along with BRO.

There are major eSports tournaments sponsored by Breakout Gaming being lined up online to be broadcast on twitch.tv.

We welcome you to the Breakout community and we hope that we can provide eSports gamers easier, cheaper, faster transaction processing by using cryptocurrencies.  



Which teams(Na'Vi, Fnatic, Newbee, etc)? Which major tournaments?

Ah, apologies about the confusion, when I say "team" I meant group of individuals working on separate promotion, game rules, etc.. for Dota2 and LOL.  These Breakout Gaming "team" members are very tied into their respective communities.  There are certain restrictions that do not allow us to sponsor actual "pro" players.  However, we do expect most of the top players to be present at our online tournament events.  

They will be online tournaments, we have already started on the structure and ready to go and looking for the opportune time to sync the launch of breakout gaming and the announcement our eSports tournaments.  We will be posting on here updated tournament information as well as the normal eSports channels.  

Here is a link to an article from ongamers.com

http://www.ongamers.com/articles/famous-poker-players-back-breakout-gamings-breakou/1100-2215/



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: duckfever on October 13, 2014, 02:37:35 AM
So how far along is the software for the poker platform ?
What sort of time-frame after the ICO can we expect game / betting functionality ?

Thanks !


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: brother3 on October 13, 2014, 03:12:48 AM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: fox19891989 on October 13, 2014, 04:02:15 AM
 :o

https://twitter.com/back2backflack   

Layne Flack joins BRO team, awesome, as the BRO OP&press Chinese translator, feel proud of BRO   :o


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 13, 2014, 04:16:52 AM
So how far along is the software for the poker platform ?
What sort of time-frame after the ICO can we expect game / betting functionality ?

Thanks !

The poker and Fantasy software have been well into development for nearly a year.  We hope to launch within weeks after the "coins sale" period ends.  The games will be rolled out individually on a set schedule to be released to the public when ready.

However, we want to do thorough QA testing before we go "live."  There are anti-fraud, collusion and other security issues that have to be addressed completely before making that consideration.  Rest assured, when we do launch, it will be a positive experience.  The UX and graphics will be amazing.  


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 13, 2014, 04:29:47 AM
So how far along is the software for the poker platform ?
What sort of time-frame after the ICO can we expect game / betting functionality ?

Thanks !

The poker and Fantasy software have been well into development for nearly a year.  We hope to launch within weeks after the ICO period ends.  The games will be rolled out individually on a set schedule to be released to the public when ready.

However, we want to do thorough QA testing before we go "live."  There are anti-fraud, collusion and other security issues that have to be addressed completely before making that consideration.  Rest assured, when we do launch, it will be a positive experience.  The UX and graphics will be amazing.  

got any pics of the poker or fantasy games?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 13, 2014, 07:18:21 AM
So how far along is the software for the poker platform ?
What sort of time-frame after the ICO can we expect game / betting functionality ?

Thanks !

The poker and Fantasy software have been well into development for nearly a year.  We hope to launch within weeks after the ICO period ends.  The games will be rolled out individually on a set schedule to be released to the public when ready.

However, we want to do thorough QA testing before we go "live."  There are anti-fraud, collusion and other security issues that have to be addressed completely before making that consideration.  Rest assured, when we do launch, it will be a positive experience.  The UX and graphics will be amazing.  

got any pics of the poker or fantasy games?
Mayhem. Go to fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com
Click on the GAMING tab.  Then go to sneak peek


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: brother3 on October 13, 2014, 07:18:32 PM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 13, 2014, 07:56:20 PM
Has the poker app already started development?

The poker app has been in development for many months and we are customizing the UX to be current and modern.  We will be rolling out the poker/casino along with the Fantasy games on a set schedule.  There will be a liberal amount of freerolls available and a chance to play with some of the poker celebrities such as Johnny Chan!

Any screenshots we can see? Beta testing?

These are earlier drafts of the tables. They have been updated to make it more functional, i.e. card faces are larger now. We have a total of six incredible designs to start, but will rotate new table designs regularly.  You will have to wait until we release snapshots of the most recent designs, but information will be revealed here on this thread regularly.

I had to resize the images to make them load faster (losing a lot of sharpness and detail in the process)


Here you go...






Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: drkman on October 13, 2014, 08:20:23 PM
"Distribution of BRO at 2-Years
12% - 2.5 million – Developers, Marketing, Pros, Bounties, Ops
21% - 4.5 million – Initial Coin Offering, Genesis block + Bergstake
33% 7 million – Giveaways - 2 year distribution schedule
33% 7 million – Mined during PoW phase + Bergstake"

"200 million+ total coins "

"CryptoNote Clone
PoW / Proof-of-Bergstake hybrid.
Block Time Target: 3 minutes
PoW Phase: 2 years, 7 million coins, ~19.98 BRO block reward
BotlessNight Hashing Algorithm
Difficulty Retarget: CryptoNote Adaptive Limits
PoB  Phase: perpetual, 2 million coins annually ~11.42 BRO block reward
SHA256 hashing after PoW ends.
200 million+ total coins
14 million coin Pre-Mine (< 7%)"

Can you clarify the above discrepancies or let me know what I am missing here?  Because in the top quote it indicates that there will be only 21million total coins after the POW phase ends.  But then in the lower quote you clearly state 200+ million total coins.  So...... who controls the remaining 179 million coins?

Can you clarify the premine more clearly for me and others and state how many coins will be in existence (and the distribution) immediately after the ICO ends and before the POW begins.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 13, 2014, 08:46:17 PM
"Distribution of BRO at 2-Years
12% - 2.5 million – Developers, Marketing, Pros, Bounties, Ops
21% - 4.5 million – Initial Coin Offering, Genesis block + Bergstake
33% 7 million – Giveaways - 2 year distribution schedule
33% 7 million – Mined during PoW phase + Bergstake"

"200 million+ total coins "

"CryptoNote Clone
PoW / Proof-of-Bergstake hybrid.
Block Time Target: 3 minutes
PoW Phase: 2 years, 7 million coins, ~19.98 BRO block reward
BotlessNight Hashing Algorithm
Difficulty Retarget: CryptoNote Adaptive Limits
PoB  Phase: perpetual, 2 million coins annually ~11.42 BRO block reward
SHA256 hashing after PoW ends.
200 million+ total coins
14 million coin Pre-Mine (< 7%)"

Can you clarify the above discrepancies or let me know what I am missing here?  Because in the top quote it indicates that there will be only 21million total coins after the POW phase ends.  But then in the lower quote you clearly state 200+ million total coins.  So...... who controls the remaining 179 million coins?

Can you clarify the premine more clearly for me and others and state how many coins will be in existence (and the distribution) immediately after the ICO ends and before the POW begins.


The first two years will be exclusively PoW mining with the distribution as declared above.  Miners and "crowd sale" participants will receive Bergstake on a one-to-one ratio with "virgin" BRO coin.  After the two-year period ends, it will be Proof-of-Bergstake only @2 million BRO per year.  ONLY owners of Bergstake will have a right to mine during the Proof-of-Bergstake phase and your Bergstake will act as a "virtual mining rig."

The "crowd sale" BRO Coins are all considered "virgin" coins as they are sent from the Genesis block.  It will be the only time you can purchase Bergstake, as all future "virgin" coins will need to be mined in the PoW phase.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: jaybny on October 13, 2014, 08:50:37 PM
"Distribution of BRO at 2-Years
12% - 2.5 million – Developers, Marketing, Pros, Bounties, Ops
21% - 4.5 million – Initial Coin Offering, Genesis block + Bergstake
33% 7 million – Giveaways - 2 year distribution schedule
33% 7 million – Mined during PoW phase + Bergstake"

"200 million+ total coins "

"CryptoNote Clone
PoW / Proof-of-Bergstake hybrid.
Block Time Target: 3 minutes
PoW Phase: 2 years, 7 million coins, ~19.98 BRO block reward
BotlessNight Hashing Algorithm
Difficulty Retarget: CryptoNote Adaptive Limits
PoB  Phase: perpetual, 2 million coins annually ~11.42 BRO block reward
SHA256 hashing after PoW ends.
200 million+ total coins
14 million coin Pre-Mine (< 7%)"

Can you clarify the above discrepancies or let me know what I am missing here?  Because in the top quote it indicates that there will be only 21million total coins after the POW phase ends.  But then in the lower quote you clearly state 200+ million total coins.  So...... who controls the remaining 179 million coins?
each year from year 3 on there will be 2 million new coins rewarded via block-rewards for Proof-of-Bergstake, this exact number can be discussed and decided by the community before hand. the 200+ number is actually infinite, since there PoB phaase is perpetual. to reach 200 million coins (14+179), it will take around 40 years.  

Quote
Can you clarify the premine more clearly for me and others and state how many coins will be in existence (and the distribution) immediately after the ICO ends and before the POW begins.

there will be 14million coins pre-mined after ICO and before POW

2.5 million Devs
4.5 million ICO
7 million distributed over time via giveaways, freerolls, per detailed and transparent marketing plan to attract and retain gamers to the platform.  

The PoW phase will create 3.5 million new coins annually for 2 years, distributed to miners.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: jaybny on October 13, 2014, 09:28:57 PM
Thanks, I see it now.

Will the bergstake be distributed in proportion to how much is bought per-person in the ICO ?

1 Bergstake per BRO


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: drkman on October 13, 2014, 09:42:39 PM
Thanks, I see it now.

Will the bergstake be distributed in proportion to how much is bought per-person in the ICO ?

1 Bergstake per BRO
Thanks.  Couple more questions.   Does a Bergstake virtual mine another Bergstake or a BRO?  And do you have to keep your Berg for 2 years before it can begin it's work?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: jaybny on October 13, 2014, 11:00:36 PM
Thanks, I see it now.

Will the bergstake be distributed in proportion to how much is bought per-person in the ICO ?

1 Bergstake per BRO
Thanks.  Couple more questions.   Does a Bergstake virtual mine another Bergstake or a BRO?  And do you have to keep your Berg for 2 years before it can begin it's work?

no. Bergstake cannot generate Bergstake, this is what fixes stake grinding.

Bergstake is only used after PoW


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: ereborltc on October 13, 2014, 11:07:26 PM
This looks really juicy :) Keeping an eye ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: *Sakura* on October 13, 2014, 11:44:26 PM
Russian translation:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=822515.0

Best regards,
*Sakura*


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: ofortuna on October 13, 2014, 11:45:36 PM
Breakout Gaming's Fantasy eSports

http://i.imgur.com/ZBB8cAt.jpg?1


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 14, 2014, 12:35:34 AM
This looks really juicy :) Keeping an eye ;)

Thanks BRO!  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: hellyeahent on October 14, 2014, 12:59:39 AM
Why wont u use BTC (and DOGE/BC/LTC / other fast/strong coins ) ?

It looks like you will have huge premine and risk nothing


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: barabbas on October 14, 2014, 01:04:41 AM
Why wont u use BTC (and DOGE/BC/LTC / other fast/strong coins ) ?

It looks like you will have huge premine and risk nothing

Perhaps you should read one of my previous posts... Breakout Gaming will have controlled 67% of the coins. They will be able to manipulate the price to buy very low. They couldn't do that with the same level of control with other coins.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 14, 2014, 02:39:24 AM
Why wont u use BTC (and DOGE/BC/LTC / other fast/strong coins ) ?

It looks like you will have huge premine and risk nothing

from my understanding after two yrs, they are left with only 12% of the pre-mine.  looks like they dumped a lot of money into this, so they are heavily invested already unlike a bunch of other shit coins.  where do you want to make a bet?  a couple of hackers and devs or a well organized org that seems talented and backed by a huge market hmmmmm  ::)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig |CELEBRITIES|Gaming Platform
Post by: drkman on October 14, 2014, 02:56:49 AM
Thanks, I see it now.

Will the bergstake be distributed in proportion to how much is bought per-person in the ICO ?

1 Bergstake per BRO
Thanks.  Couple more questions.   Does a Bergstake virtual mine another Bergstake or a BRO?  And do you have to keep your Berg for 2 years before it can begin it's work?

no. Bergstake cannot generate Bergstake, this is what fixes stake grinding.

Bergstake is only used after PoW
More Questions:
1.  So since Bergstake cannot mine more Bergstake, then the total Bergstake is 7 million mined plus 4.5 million ICO, Correct?
"Distribution of BRO at 2-Years
12% - 2.5 million – Developers, Marketing, Pros, Bounties, Ops
21% - 4.5 million – Initial Coin Offering, Genesis block + Bergstake
33% 7 million – Giveaways - 2 year distribution schedule
33% 7 million – Mined during PoW phase + Bergstake"

2.  And for the 2.5 million for Developers and 7 million in giveaways....there is no Bergstake for them, correct?  

3.  Then if we assume 11.5 million total Bergstake ever in existence, what precautions, if any are you going to do to make sure there is no centralized 51% attacker at the onset of the POB period?  

4.  Also, are you going to do what is necessary to bring in an independent auditor to verify that there are no hidden premined Bergstake shares owned by a centralized person who could perform undefeatable timewarp attacks on BRO.
Thanks.
-Drkman


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 14, 2014, 04:38:25 AM
Bergstake FAQ

Do I need to know about Bergstake to use BRO?
No. Breakoutcoin can be used like any other digital currency, users of the currency will never encounter the Bergstake, but should know that Bergstake is used by miners for the purpose of securing the coin and the network and prevent double spending.

How is Bergstake different than Stake?
When you own a digital currency, you have “stake” in it. The stake that you own was  transferred many times over before it reached your wallet, just like that dollar bill in your pocket.

The story of the coin starts when it was originally “minted” by a process called “mining”. The miner, presented a “proof” that was accepted by the network and added to the blockchain. As a reward, the miner is allowed to give herself a number of shiny new coins. She then mints these new coins by making a transaction that sends coins to her wallet. These coins now enter circulation and will be transferred from wallet to wallet as currency.

Bergstake is the “stake” of a coin at the moment it is minted. Before the coin is ever transferred; Bergstake is the Stake! Once a transfer is made, there is a new stake holder, but not a new bergstake holder. The Bergstake is forever owned by the initial minter, and cannot be transferred away.

So whats so special about Bergstake?
The properties of Bergstake allow the use of “Proof-of-Bergstake” to reach distributed  consensus and secure the blockchain. The technical details are out of this scope, to learn more, please research Proof-of-Work and Proof-of-Stake blockchains. See our forum threads for links to white papers.



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 14, 2014, 05:26:05 AM
Thanks, I see it now.

Will the bergstake be distributed in proportion to how much is bought per-person in the ICO ?

1 Bergstake per BRO
Thanks.  Couple more questions.   Does a Bergstake virtual mine another Bergstake or a BRO?  And do you have to keep your Berg for 2 years before it can begin it's work?

no. Bergstake cannot generate Bergstake, this is what fixes stake grinding.

Bergstake is only used after PoW
More Questions:
1.  So since Bergstake cannot mine more Bergstake, then the total Bergstake is 7 million mined plus 4.5 million ICO, Correct?
"Distribution of BRO at 2-Years
12% - 2.5 million – Developers, Marketing, Pros, Bounties, Ops
21% - 4.5 million – Initial Coin Offering, Genesis block + Bergstake
33% 7 million – Giveaways - 2 year distribution schedule
33% 7 million – Mined during PoW phase + Bergstake"

2.  And for the 2.5 million for Developers and 7 million in giveaways....there is no Bergstake for them, correct? 

3.  Then if we assume 11.5 million total Bergstake ever in existence, what precautions, if any are you going to do to make sure there is no centralized 51% attacker at the onset of the POB period? 

4.  Also, are you going to do what is necessary to bring in an independent auditor to verify that there are no hidden premined Bergstake shares owned by a centralized person who could perform undefeatable timewarp attacks on BRO.
Thanks.
-Drkman

All these questions can be answered with some more details on what exactly Berstake is and how it works.

No special coin or data or anything is added to the blockchain to generate Bergstake. Every new BRO coin has Bergstake. The first transaction for every coin is the "Coinbase" transaction. Before these newly minted coins are transferred away, the BRO and Bergstake are the same thing! What exactly is this thing? Its an output with an address, and is owned by the person who can prove its his address.

There is even Bergstake in bitcoin. :)  (seriously, if there is every a major emergency with bitcoin, moving to PoB wont be a bad idea!)

When these "virgin" BRO coins are transferred  to a new address, the Bergstake is not transferred. It remains tied to the original address forever. Why? Because thats how its defined.

To answer your questions:

1. 2. a pre-mine is the same thing as a mine.. and every mined coin has Bergstake. However, since Bergstake cannot be transferred, we have yet to come up with a solution to distribute the 7 million Bergstake with the BRO giveaways. The plan has always been to burn these 7 million Bergstake. However, after the ICO and before the Genesis block launch, there is an opportunity to either distribute some more Bergstake to ICO investors or to even have a large freeroll poker or fantasy tournament. 

This can be done if put to a vote and voted on with your ICO Bergstake.. The idea is to distribute the Bergstake wide as possible, which leads to your next question.

3. In general, with consensus systems, if there is a single holder with 51% then he always wins because he is the consensus. However to get 51% of bergstake a single miner would have to solve over 50% of all blocks. For there to be 51% holder there would need to be 51% mining power throughout the entire 2 years of PoW. Even if this does happen, a 51% attack really wont be successful, because he cannot acquire the other 49%, so the worst he can do is cause a complete fork in Breakout coin, with one fork of 49% and one with the 51% attacker. if the attacker tries to "mine" on the 49% fork, he will lose his Bergstake due to "double-mining-proof".

4. Its technically impossible for there to be more Bergstake then BRO. However, the genesis block will need to contain the addresses of every single ICO investor, and we will most definitely have an audit of this open-source transaction and compare it to the Bitcoin Exodus inputs.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 14, 2014, 05:35:17 AM
Why wont u use BTC (and DOGE/BC/LTC / other fast/strong coins ) ?

It looks like you will have huge premine and risk nothing

All gaming chips will be denominated in BRO, so Breakout Gaming will have to match all deposits with BRO, which creates some value. In return they get 7million for giveaways, and BTCs from initial sale, this could not be done without a new coin.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: ofortuna on October 14, 2014, 06:37:50 AM
Russian translation:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=822515.0

Best regards,
*Sakura*

Thanks for the great translation work!



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: drkman on October 14, 2014, 06:43:05 AM
I vote yay .

edit: if you tell me exactly what your worried about and what you are looking for as an ICO investor, I can put a technical perspective on it, and im open to be convinced to changing the specs. things are dynamic, and flexible.

for example, other investors had asked that we switch to an alternative from CryptoNote. These are all not the core value of the coin, and ultimately the coin is owned by all of us, and if he makes a compelling argument I will bring it up myself. So lets hear what you, as a small or large investor would like .

 :)

Thanks for the replies.
1.  Do you know what the ICO pricing will be per BRO?  Because with 14 million outstanding BRO with a tremendously fast 33% 2 year dilution emission curve, then it could easily be the case that the ICO will represent peak prices over the near to medium term simply due to the bulk selling of miners over the next 2 years.  Add in the fact that users that got their BRO for free will be far quicker to dump for any price (because their cost basis was zero) and you have another huge 7million 33% dilution dumping on the market.

2.  Was there ever a consensus about the "coin killing flaw" that possibly exists in all Cryptonote coins?  If you haven't read the thread, you need to and this is not the scam thread, but the thread covering the possible coming attack on the Monero blockchain.  If all cryptonote coins do have either a backdoor, or a fundamental flaw, then it's best to iron this out now before launch.  Also, gaming and gambling cause more blockchain transactions that most everything and Cryptonote coins are vulnerable over the long term to blockchain bloat.  Maybe the 2 technologies are not as good a match as previously believed.  Have you considered just using energy efficient X11?  Still GPU only and will most assuredly stay that way for the remainder of the 2 year POW phase and most miners are already familiar with this protocol so you get your stated goal of reaching the widest distribution.  Plus, you don't have to worry about some secret super high hashing GPU miners as has been the case with the Cryptonote coins.  
Also, if you desired blockchain anonymity, You could still get the anonymity of cryptonote and others by allowing BRO users the option to simply plug into the SuperNET family of coins to gain access to Boolberry (a cryptonote coin) or BTCD's anonymizing Teleport technology.

3.  Consider giving away less BRO and deliver far more coins in the ICO with the goal of lowering the price per coin.  Kinda sucks asking someone to pay real money for an unknown price for a coin only to have that same company then give away almost twice as many BRO for free in order to drive customers to their for profit gambling business for the financial benefit of the owners of said business.  Just rubs investors the wrong way unless you were also going to give Bergstake or ICO holders real ownership shares in the actual Breakout Gaming corporation.....which I would be all for................the blockchain could be a certain percent owner of Breakout Gaming and then everyone that owned the coin would share that ownership.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: pvnamk19 on October 14, 2014, 07:14:31 AM
I will vote for the idea of distributing Bergstake of 7 million – Giveaways BRO to ICO investors.
Can Devs say something about pluging BRO into the SuperNET?
Thanks!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 14, 2014, 08:30:51 AM
I vote yay .

edit: if you tell me exactly what your worried about and what you are looking for as an ICO investor, I can put a technical perspective on it, and im open to be convinced to changing the specs. things are dynamic, and flexible.

for example, other investors had asked that we switch to an alternative from CryptoNote. These are all not the core value of the coin, and ultimately the coin is owned by all of us, and if he makes a compelling argument I will bring it up myself. So lets hear what you, as a small or large investor would like .

 :)

Thanks for the replies.
1.  Do you know what the ICO pricing will be per BRO?  Because with 14 million outstanding BRO with a tremendously fast 33% 2 year dilution emission curve, then it could easily be the case that the ICO will represent peak prices over the near to medium term simply due to the bulk selling of miners over the next 2 years.  Add in the fact that users that got their BRO for free will be far quicker to dump for any price (because their cost basis was zero) and you have another huge 7million 33% dilution dumping on the market.
price will be market driven. there will be miner dilution over 2 years, giveaways will be managed with demand, and even if ICO is peak near term, you get to sell in first 2 years, and then get to sell again with rewards from bergstake. if you feel ICO will be peak price and peak EV, then its probably not a good idea to invest.  

Quote
2.  Was there ever a consensus about the "coin killing flaw" that possibly exists in all Cryptonote coins?  If you haven't read the thread, you need to and this is not the scam thread, but the thread covering the possible coming attack on the Monero blockchain.  If all cryptonote coins do have either a backdoor, or a fundamental flaw, then it's best to iron this out now before launch.  Also, gaming and gambling cause more blockchain transactions that most everything and Cryptonote coins are vulnerable over the long term to blockchain bloat.  Maybe the 2 technologies are not as good a match as previously believed.  Have you considered just using energy efficient X11?  Still GPU only and will most assuredly stay that way for the remainder of the 2 year POW phase and most miners are already familiar with this protocol so you get your stated goal of reaching the widest distribution.  Plus, you don't have to worry about some secret super high hashing GPU miners as has been the case with the Cryptonote coins.  
Also, if you desired blockchain anonymity, You could still get the anonymity of cryptonote and others by allowing BRO users the option to simply plug into the SuperNET family of coins to gain access to Boolberry (a cryptonote coin) or BTCD's anonymizing Teleport technology.
excellent points, yes, we are aware of recent cryptonote issues and have backup plans in place, such as x11 or x13, but even without CryptoNote, we can still use CryptoNight, no? I am not familiar with SuperNET, but if it provides anonymity without the bloat, its a huge plus. not sure there will be time to make a change, but again the ICO investors will be able to demand changes with majority vote using bergstake.

Quote
3.  Consider giving away less BRO and deliver far more coins in the ICO with the goal of lowering the price per coin.  Kinda sucks asking someone to pay real money for an unknown price for a coin only to have that same company then give away almost twice as many BRO for free in order to drive customers to their for profit gambling business for the financial benefit of the owners of said business.  Just rubs investors the wrong way unless you were also going to give Bergstake or ICO holders real ownership shares in the actual Breakout Gaming corporation.....which I would be all for................the blockchain could be a certain percent owner of Breakout Gaming and then everyone that owned the coin would share that ownership.
the giveaways will be done though gaming platform, in small amounts, over long periods of time, and they will not just be able to cash out immediately. the giveaways are key to building the gaming business, which uses BRO denominated chips. also, ICO investors get Bergstake. regarding ownership, the coin does not represent ownership of any kind, the coin only represents what it is; a decentralized crypto currency.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: *Sakura* on October 14, 2014, 12:35:26 PM
Dev, I have just one question. If I will mine on pool during PoW, how the pool will send me Bergstakes?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 14, 2014, 01:07:30 PM
Dev, I have just one question. If I will mine on pool during PoW, how the pool will send me Bergstakes?

Current pool technology will not enable this. So the pool operator will keep all the Bergstake, and to compensate, they will have to distribute all or most of the BRO to miners. This is why we are developing a new kind of pool, where when a block is found, all miners will be entered into the coinbase transaction directly. So there will be 100s of outputs. This "feature" will keep pools smaller and less centralized.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: devrilz on October 14, 2014, 02:56:49 PM
i like the game...  :o


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: *Sakura* on October 14, 2014, 03:10:43 PM
Dev, I have just one question. If I will mine on pool during PoW, how the pool will send me Bergstakes?

Current pool technology will not enable this. So the pool operator will keep all the Bergstake, and to compensate, they will have to distribute all or most of the BRO to miners. This is why we are developing a new kind of pool, where when a block is found, all miners will be entered into the coinbase transaction directly. So there will be 100s of outputs. This "feature" will keep pools smaller and less centralized.



Thanks. This is important.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: zarton on October 14, 2014, 04:01:13 PM
Spanish translation -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=823513.0
 :)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: ofortuna on October 14, 2014, 04:24:03 PM
Spanish translation -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=823513.0
 :)

Thanks Zarton!   ;D



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 14, 2014, 05:01:08 PM
i like the game...  :o

Which game?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: duckfever on October 14, 2014, 05:18:36 PM
Question : How long will the ICO run for ?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 14, 2014, 05:22:07 PM
i like the game...  :o

Which game?

We've got a lot of them 😊


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 14, 2014, 06:11:04 PM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 14, 2014, 07:02:10 PM

Could be best meme yet !!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: almond on October 14, 2014, 07:32:28 PM
I'm all in.....


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 14, 2014, 07:35:27 PM
Dev, I have just one question. If I will mine on pool during PoW, how the pool will send me Bergstakes?

Current pool technology will not enable this. So the pool operator will keep all the Bergstake, and to compensate, they will have to distribute all or most of the BRO to miners. This is why we are developing a new kind of pool, where when a block is found, all miners will be entered into the coinbase transaction directly. So there will be 100s of outputs. This "feature" will keep pools smaller and less centralized.


So a P2P pool is not the answer?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 14, 2014, 07:56:26 PM
Question : How long will the ICO run for ?

The current plan is to run the ICO for 30 days.  We only recently made an announcement, so we want there to be plenty of time for people who learned about our ICO late to participate.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 14, 2014, 10:29:35 PM

All in on the girl or the coin. Either way I know you'll be happy !!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: LovSan on October 14, 2014, 11:37:47 PM

I'm too...


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 15, 2014, 12:14:26 AM

in like flynn...BRO or Bust for me!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 15, 2014, 12:37:17 AM

LovSan welcome to BRO thread. I know you're in on the girl what about our coin ?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: ofortuna on October 15, 2014, 12:44:24 AM
Did someone say girl?  ;D

http://i.imgur.com/poB1cFt.png?1


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 15, 2014, 01:06:02 AM
Did someone say girl?  ;D

http://i.imgur.com/poB1cFt.png?1

awesome graphics. cant wait for the ICO, this one is going to be epic!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 15, 2014, 01:23:09 AM
Did someone say girl?  ;D

http://i.imgur.com/poB1cFt.png?1

awesome graphics. cant wait for the ICO, this one is going to be epic!

If you want to see the DEMO of the Digital Hub for all the games, please go to the following site:

http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/breakout-gaming-preview/


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: LovSan on October 15, 2014, 01:27:42 AM

Thanks ;) It's in my watchlist since day 1 (or 2), idea is interesting for sure. What conserns me the most:
a) 3 min block time (it's really slow)
b) CryptoNote protocol (anonymity is nice, but bloat and problems monero like)
c) Unlimited ICO (people invest huge summs - you win, they lose, with miners dumping)

But even with these points, I will buy/mine some, to be sure it won't go x10/x100 without me ;D. Team backing this coin is great, you can't **** up.
 
Did someone say girl?  ;D

http://i.imgur.com/poB1cFt.png?1

Outstanding.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout | CELEBRITIES| Virtual Mining Rig | Privacy | EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 15, 2014, 02:10:13 AM
I vote yay .

edit: if you tell me exactly what your worried about and what you are looking for as an ICO investor, I can put a technical perspective on it, and im open to be convinced to changing the specs. things are dynamic, and flexible.

for example, other investors had asked that we switch to an alternative from CryptoNote. These are all not the core value of the coin, and ultimately the coin is owned by all of us, and if he makes a compelling argument I will bring it up myself. So lets hear what you, as a small or large investor would like .

 :)

Thanks for the replies.
1.  Do you know what the ICO pricing will be per BRO?  Because with 14 million outstanding BRO with a tremendously fast 33% 2 year dilution emission curve, then it could easily be the case that the ICO will represent peak prices over the near to medium term simply due to the bulk selling of miners over the next 2 years.  Add in the fact that users that got their BRO for free will be far quicker to dump for any price (because their cost basis was zero) and you have another huge 7million 33% dilution dumping on the market.

2.  Was there ever a consensus about the "coin killing flaw" that possibly exists in all Cryptonote coins?  If you haven't read the thread, you need to and this is not the scam thread, but the thread covering the possible coming attack on the Monero blockchain.  If all cryptonote coins do have either a backdoor, or a fundamental flaw, then it's best to iron this out now before launch.  Also, gaming and gambling cause more blockchain transactions that most everything and Cryptonote coins are vulnerable over the long term to blockchain bloat.  Maybe the 2 technologies are not as good a match as previously believed.  Have you considered just using energy efficient X11?  Still GPU only and will most assuredly stay that way for the remainder of the 2 year POW phase and most miners are already familiar with this protocol so you get your stated goal of reaching the widest distribution.  Plus, you don't have to worry about some secret super high hashing GPU miners as has been the case with the Cryptonote coins.  
Also, if you desired blockchain anonymity, You could still get the anonymity of cryptonote and others by allowing BRO users the option to simply plug into the SuperNET family of coins to gain access to Boolberry (a cryptonote coin) or BTCD's anonymizing Teleport technology.

3.  Consider giving away less BRO and deliver far more coins in the ICO with the goal of lowering the price per coin.  Kinda sucks asking someone to pay real money for an unknown price for a coin only to have that same company then give away almost twice as many BRO for free in order to drive customers to their for profit gambling business for the financial benefit of the owners of said business.  Just rubs investors the wrong way unless you were also going to give Bergstake or ICO holders real ownership shares in the actual Breakout Gaming corporation.....which I would be all for................the blockchain could be a certain percent owner of Breakout Gaming and then everyone that owned the coin would share that ownership.

Now it gets interesting!

On # 2, the energy efficient x11 algo is not really a good choice if one wants to distribute the coin more fairly.  I have seen X11 coins mined and dumped to death * there is even a strong possibility of FPGAs that can mine X11* .  There will relentless dumping by the mining farms and no coins will be able to sustain such abuse.  Of course, this is less of a problem with coins that will only have a short PoW period followed by PoS, such is not the case with BRO.

Regarding Cryptonote, I am aware of PGPU miners but the problem was only with Boolberry I think, due to it's departure from the Cryptonight hashing algo.  Boolberry uses wild kekak which is gpu "friendly", hence the problem.

I know I am not that good at this stuff but I am not resistant to learning :)

#3 The most important part is, to me, is the Bergstake.  This is the key to investors buying in the ICO and miners supporting the coin. BRO coins without Bergstake will not give you the ability to sign blocks later on.
The more people play on the site, the more rewarding it is for all Bergstake holders, no?
And Breakout gaming, in the end, will have far less Bergstake than the ICO investors and miners, no?  


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: JakeThePanda on October 15, 2014, 02:44:10 AM
Mmmmmmm, Burgsteaks.  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: LovSan on October 15, 2014, 02:49:24 AM
Mmmmmmm, Burgsteaks.  ;D

Yeah, tell us, how Burgsteaks will mine coins, it will be tasty to hear that kind of story ::)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: JakeThePanda on October 15, 2014, 02:51:34 AM
Mmmmmmm, Burgsteaks.  ;D

Yeah, tell us, how Burgsteaks will mine coins, it will be tasty to hear that kind of story ::)

Watchoo talkin bout Willis?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: LovSan on October 15, 2014, 03:30:09 AM
Mmmmmmm, Burgsteaks.  ;D

Yeah, tell us, how Burgsteaks will mine coins, it will be tasty to hear that kind of story ::)

Watchoo talkin bout Willis?

Nevermind, it was a bad joke ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: ofortuna on October 15, 2014, 04:18:58 AM
Mmmmmmm, Burgsteaks.  ;D

I'll have mine prepared medium-rare!   :P


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 15, 2014, 04:19:37 AM

Thanks ;) It's in my watchlist since day 1 (or 2), idea is interesting for sure. What conserns me the most:
a) 3 min block time (it's really slow)
b) CryptoNote protocol (anonymity is nice, but bloat and problems monero like)
c) Unlimited ICO (people invest huge summs - you win, they lose, with miners dumping)

But even with these points, I will buy/mine some, to be sure it won't go x10/x100 without me ;D. Team backing this coin is great, you can't **** up.
 
Did someone say girl?  ;D

http://i.imgur.com/poB1cFt.png?1

Outstanding.
LovSan.  Trust me.  We have been meeting daily to make sure we will be successful.  We have all our hearts and all our collective resources invested in Breakout Gaming and BRO coin


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 15, 2014, 04:27:49 AM
Mmmmmmm, Burgsteaks.  ;D

Yeah, tell us, how Burgsteaks will mine coins, it will be tasty to hear that kind of story ::)

Watchoo talkin bout Willis?


kkkk...coolesrt thread to hang out on.  good vibes all the way.  BRO is going to be epic success, i can feel it


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 15, 2014, 05:06:56 AM
Bitcoin Magazine article highlights why an altcoin with built-in liquidity demand may stand out....

http://bitcoinmagazine.com/17039/fight-volatility-cryptocurrency/

“The basic reason critics are skeptical of altcoins is that they fear the dilution of the cryptocurrency market: altcoins currently get most of their capital from previous Bitcoiners, not by converting new people to crypto. This is the unfortunate result of technology advancing faster than mainstream culture, and our common drive to be first at everything. As convenient as it is for branding reasons, however, a new flagship cryptocurrency must emerge.’
 
Why is BRO different regarding this basic skepticism?
 
The Gaming business expects to be in the secondary market for BRO for every $ in fiat it takes in ….. supporting liquidity, and adding price stability, on a near daily basis. This is how gamification brings capital to BRO Coin.

Breakout Gaming using BRO and $ will bring "fiat" capital into the crypto market.
 


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 15, 2014, 05:41:34 AM
There is a case to made for upcapped ICO.

1) We do not want to price BRO ourselves.  The investors and the market should have the deciding vote.
2) More fair distribution vs price per coin.  There are on 4.5 millions BRO offered in the ICO and an uncapped ICO would not allow the Bill Gates to scoop up most or all of the coins.
3)  The assumption that uncapped ICO will generate money money than a capped ICO is erroneous imho.  In the end, if the project is sound then it will be supported by the community, and vice versa.  

Just my 2 BROs  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: ofortuna on October 15, 2014, 07:57:12 AM
One of the early poker table designs.   ;D

http://i.imgur.com/o77boF4.jpg?1


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: LovSan on October 15, 2014, 08:07:23 AM
One of the early poker table designs.   ;D

http://i.imgur.com/o77boF4.jpg?1

Dealer looks wierd ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: michaelb87 on October 15, 2014, 08:09:38 AM
Gonna invest in this one for sure. Hope ICO will not break 300 BTC or I'm out. This is the max in these times


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: ofortuna on October 15, 2014, 08:34:38 AM
One of the early poker table designs.   ;D

http://i.imgur.com/o77boF4.jpg?1

Dealer looks wierd ;D

http://i.imgur.com/q7R9Jtd.jpg?1

How about this one?   :-*


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 15, 2014, 09:20:15 AM
Quote

http://i.imgur.com/q7R9Jtd.jpg?1

How about this one?   :-*


The daughter looks a lot better  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: ofortuna on October 15, 2014, 10:06:40 AM
Hmmmm I wonder if anyone in China or Russia use crypto..... or like to gamble?   ;)


http://i.imgur.com/OIn3UpQ.jpg?1http://i.imgur.com/oDWW4lI.jpg?1


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: duckfever on October 15, 2014, 12:03:00 PM
imo there's too much going on with the poker table designs, I say this as a long term grinder myself. will there be a simplified table option ?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: D_schneider on October 15, 2014, 12:03:37 PM
7% on something that is mined over years is really a lot.
Is the somekind of connection between the coins mined and the coins your giving away ?
Because such a huge ammount could easily kill the market for investors and miners alike , do u have some kind of promotional schedule on how much is going to be givenaway in a given timeperiod ?


 


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: bitkornmeister on October 15, 2014, 12:06:45 PM
Glad to be on board, I was asked to do this, here it is - your fresh german ANN.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=824400.0


>> could someone show me the correct link for the ICO-timer in your ANN posted so I can include that in my ANN? I have just the pic... timers are new to me. Thank you , lets riiiide


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: JakeThePanda on October 15, 2014, 12:18:45 PM
Argg, too much interest I feel that the ICO price will be too high now.

Everyone go away, there's nothing to see here.  Shit coin.  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: LovSan on October 15, 2014, 01:32:29 PM

Yep, this one is much better ::)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 15, 2014, 02:53:06 PM
imo there's too much going on with the poker table designs, I say this as a long term grinder myself. will there be a simplified table option ?

Yes, we actually have that covered too :)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 15, 2014, 03:07:41 PM
Argg, too much interest I feel that the ICO price will be too high now.

Everyone go away, there's nothing to see here.  Shit coin.  ;D

yup, go watch the stock market tank!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 15, 2014, 05:39:18 PM
Argg, too much interest I feel that the ICO price will be too high now.

Everyone go away, there's nothing to see here.  Shit coin.  ;D

 ;D Fer shure Jake, fer shure  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: crash__bandicoot on October 15, 2014, 06:03:42 PM
Argg, too much interest I feel that the ICO price will be too high now.

Everyone go away, there's nothing to see here.  Shit coin.  ;D

That's hilarious xD


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: ILoseAtPoker on October 15, 2014, 06:09:02 PM
Will there be updates as to how much has been raised so far in the ICO during the 30 days? I wouldn't really feel happy leaving my BTC invested for so long if there wasn't.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 15, 2014, 06:38:15 PM
imo there's too much going on with the poker table designs, I say this as a long term grinder myself. will there be a simplified table option ?

There will be simplified versions for serious and professional players.  These samples are for casual and free play.  


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 15, 2014, 07:18:22 PM
Will there be updates as to how much has been raised so far in the ICO during the 30 days? I wouldn't really feel happy leaving my BTC invested for so long if there wasn't.

yes, it will be in the bitcoin blockchain, and on the purchase web page.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: ofortuna on October 15, 2014, 07:51:29 PM
imo there's too much going on with the poker table designs, I say this as a long term grinder myself. will there be a simplified table option ?

Hi Duckfever,

There will also be clean poker table designs with a streamlined interface suitable for multi-tabling!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 15, 2014, 08:01:05 PM
Argg, too much interest I feel that the ICO price will be too high now.

Everyone go away, there's nothing to see here.  Shit coin.  ;D

Don't know for sure obviously but I feel the ICO price will be the lowest you will ever see for BRO coin


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 15, 2014, 08:26:49 PM
7% on something that is mined over years is really a lot.
Is the somekind of connection between the coins mined and the coins your giving away ?
Because such a huge ammount could easily kill the market for investors and miners alike , do u have some kind of promotional schedule on how much is going to be givenaway in a given timeperiod ?


 

The 7m giveaway is designed to attract registered users that typically have no experience with crypto currency.  Our payment processing will make the conversion from "fiat" to crypto as easy as possible.  Once players have been converted to BRO. they will ultimately be supporting the BRO coin price and supplying liquidity for the entire community. BRO is designed to be one of the first crypto coins that actually brings more "fiat" into the crypto market.

As we continue to "ADD" more registered used to our player base, the demand for BRO will continue to rise in the short and long-term.  Thus providing liquidity and value for your investment.  

You can see the exact distribution schedule of the giveaway at the following link.  The giveaway will be a over a prolonged two year period and will be designed to work with the growth of the company.  Therefore, as the giveaways happen, you should see a similar growth in liquidity and demand to account for the BRO that were spread among a diverse group of users all over the world.

http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/offering/

Disclaimer: Breakout Coin and Breakout Gaming are two separate services/entities.  Breakout Coin is offering BRO coins for btc. By participating in this "coin sale," you are not purchasing interest in Breakout Gaming.  You are solely participating in the "coin sale" of a crypto coin that happens to have a gaming company that supports the BRO coin by having their chips denominated in the BRO crypto coin.

As specified in the first paragraph in the Terms and Conditions:

WARNING:  Do not purchase BRO if you are not an expert in crypto tokens or currency and blockchain technology.

This coin sale is not an offer of investment or securities in any business, venture, or company, or in any form of gaming operations or activity; purchase of BRO does not entitle the buyer to any interest in any profits or revenue of any common enterprise arising from the activities of others.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 15, 2014, 09:36:02 PM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 15, 2014, 11:14:44 PM
Argg, too much interest I feel that the ICO price will be too high now.

Everyone go away, there's nothing to see here.  Shit coin.  ;D

yup, go watch the stock market tank!

ugh,,,that was painful today!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 16, 2014, 12:01:50 AM
Bitcoin Magazine article highlights why an altcoin with built-in liquidity demand may stand out....

http://bitcoinmagazine.com/17039/fight-volatility-cryptocurrency/

“The basic reason critics are skeptical of altcoins is that they fear the dilution of the cryptocurrency market: altcoins currently get most of their capital from previous Bitcoiners, not by converting new people to crypto. This is the unfortunate result of technology advancing faster than mainstream culture, and our common drive to be first at everything. As convenient as it is for branding reasons, however, a new flagship cryptocurrency must emerge.’
 
Why is BRO different regarding this basic skepticism?
 
The Gaming business expects to be in the secondary market for BRO for every $ in fiat it takes in ….. supporting liquidity, and adding price stability, on a near daily basis. This is how gamification brings capital to BRO Coin.

Breakout Gaming using BRO and $ will bring "fiat" capital into the crypto market.
 

Good read!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 16, 2014, 12:21:51 AM
have my bitcoins ready for early bird special  ;D just to be clear, its 7am pacific or 10am eastern?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: ButtCrack on October 16, 2014, 12:27:15 AM
Interesting project.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: techbytes on October 16, 2014, 12:56:05 AM
have my bitcoins ready for early bird special  ;D just to be clear, its 7am pacific or 10am eastern?


7am pacific is 10am eastern...

-tb-


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: ofortuna on October 16, 2014, 01:27:31 AM
have my bitcoins ready for early bird special  ;D just to be clear, its 7am pacific or 10am eastern?


7am pacific is 10am eastern...

-tb-

The countdown clock is now accurate.  Starting gun fires at 7am Pacific!

http://i.imgur.com/uRCPk4A.jpg?1


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 16, 2014, 01:57:44 AM
have my bitcoins ready for early bird special  ;D just to be clear, its 7am pacific or 10am eastern?


7am pacific is 10am eastern...

-tb-

The countdown clock is now accurate.  Starting gun fires at 7am Pacific!

http://i.imgur.com/uRCPk4A.jpg?1

That's a long line for Dim Sum!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Skatebird on October 16, 2014, 02:11:20 AM
You need to cap ICO because we will be Craiged. Too much investors= high price = drop :/


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 16, 2014, 02:44:40 AM

Listen to the man  ;)

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112705/bitcoin-is-better-than-currency-bill-gates (http://cointelegraph.com/news/112705/bitcoin-is-better-than-currency-bill-gates)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: nonlinearboy on October 16, 2014, 02:51:30 AM
You need to cap ICO because we will be Craiged. Too much investors= high price = drop :/

everyone should be careful of ICO at this time,
too much scamers!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 16, 2014, 03:14:07 AM
You need to cap ICO because we will be Craiged. Too much investors= high price = drop :/

everyone should be careful of ICO at this time,
too much scamers!

exactly y im investing in bro.  its the only coin that has a real business plan and credible peeps baking it up. worthy


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 16, 2014, 04:56:30 AM
You need to cap ICO because we will be Craiged. Too much investors= high price = drop :/

everyone should be careful of ICO at this time,
too much scamers!

exactly y im investing in bro.  its the only coin that has a real business plan and credible peeps baking it up. worthy

Thanx for your support Mayhem. You will be happy !!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 16, 2014, 06:04:46 AM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 16, 2014, 12:53:49 PM

Listen to the man  ;)

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112705/bitcoin-is-better-than-currency-bill-gates (http://cointelegraph.com/news/112705/bitcoin-is-better-than-currency-bill-gates)

If Bill like it then I like it


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 16, 2014, 01:18:56 PM
Interesting project.

Thanks!!!

Interesting handle  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: CoinBateman on October 16, 2014, 01:24:37 PM
Looks promising, will be following. I don't like the 30 day crowdsale however. Thats far too long. Furthermore, if it is going to be 30 days, then we need full transparency on what the price per coin will be. Yes, this should include the bonus.

It would be a tall order for any investor to just send money your way, and not be told what they're getting. 'Nobody knows how many coins they'll get until the end' whilst true, doesn't mean you can't give the price per coin whilst the sale is ongoing.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: cyaadz on October 16, 2014, 02:40:25 PM
30 days ico? No thanks. You know why? Because in that 30 days I for sure can make more money with my money than leaving it with you and waiting to see what the price will be on the exchange.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 16, 2014, 03:34:40 PM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 16, 2014, 04:08:04 PM
30 days ico? No thanks. You know why? Because in that 30 days I for sure can make more money with my money than leaving it with you and waiting to see what the price will be on the exchange.

Why not wait until the end of the ICO then take a shot?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 16, 2014, 04:42:18 PM
30 days ico? No thanks. You know why? Because in that 30 days I for sure can make more money with my money than leaving it with you and waiting to see what the price will be on the exchange.

Why not wait until the end of the ICO then take a shot?

Very good point Randy!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutCoin on October 16, 2014, 04:59:28 PM
30 days ico? No thanks. You know why? Because in that 30 days I for sure can make more money with my money than leaving it with you and waiting to see what the price will be on the exchange.

If thats the case, then I would suggest not investing in BRO ico. You have whats is called opportunity risk. Sounds like a good problem to have.   ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 16, 2014, 05:37:50 PM

Great memes!  Keep them coming Brother !


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 16, 2014, 05:52:55 PM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutCoin on October 16, 2014, 06:35:55 PM
Looks promising, will be following. I don't like the 30 day crowdsale however. Thats far too long. Furthermore, if it is going to be 30 days, then we need full transparency on what the price per coin will be. Yes, this should include the bonus.

It would be a tall order for any investor to just send money your way, and not be told what they're getting. 'Nobody knows how many coins they'll get until the end' whilst true, doesn't mean you can't give the price per coin whilst the sale is ongoing.

there will be a counter on total BTC raised... just divide 4.5mm by that.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Gizfreak on October 16, 2014, 06:48:01 PM
Looks promising, will be following. I don't like the 30 day crowdsale however. Thats far too long. Furthermore, if it is going to be 30 days, then we need full transparency on what the price per coin will be. Yes, this should include the bonus.

It would be a tall order for any investor to just send money your way, and not be told what they're getting. 'Nobody knows how many coins they'll get until the end' whilst true, doesn't mean you can't give the price per coin whilst the sale is ongoing.

there will be a counter on total BTC raised... just divide 4.5mm by that.
Can I use a 9mm too? Love my Walther ^^


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: ofortuna on October 16, 2014, 07:04:19 PM
Looks promising, will be following. I don't like the 30 day crowdsale however. Thats far too long. Furthermore, if it is going to be 30 days, then we need full transparency on what the price per coin will be. Yes, this should include the bonus.

It would be a tall order for any investor to just send money your way, and not be told what they're getting. 'Nobody knows how many coins they'll get until the end' whilst true, doesn't mean you can't give the price per coin whilst the sale is ongoing.

there will be a counter on total BTC raised... just divide 4.5mm by that.
Can I use a 9mm too? Love my Walther ^^

All calibers welcome  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Skatebird on October 16, 2014, 07:32:14 PM
My god this is ridiculous, you ask us to give you btc for 30 days and buy something we dont know the price. This is crazy. Buy my car, ill give it to you in30 days and ill give you the price  at this moment too ...:/ Put a static price, limite ICO to 1 week and we will have nice opportunnity for investors. Continue in this way, investors will all be craiged. Just sayin


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: EwrNewt on October 16, 2014, 07:39:09 PM
Not going to be able to participate in the ICO, but I wish all future investors and the BRO dev team the best of luck. We need more projects like this that shines a very good light on crypto.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 16, 2014, 09:00:58 PM
My god this is ridiculous, you ask us to give you btc for 30 days and buy something we dont know the price. This is crazy. Buy my car, ill give it to you in30 days and ill give you the price  at this moment too ...:/ Put a static price, limite ICO to 1 week and we will have nice opportunnity for investors. Continue in this way, investors will all be craiged. Just sayin


There is a case to made for upcapped ICO.

1) We do not want to price BRO ourselves.  The investors and the market should have the deciding vote.
2) More fair distribution vs price per coin.  There are only 4.5 millions BRO offered in the ICO and an uncapped ICO would not allow the Bill Gates to scoop up most or all of the coins.
3)  The assumption that uncapped ICO will generate money money than a capped ICO is erroneous imho.  In the end, if the project is sound then it will be supported by the community, and vice versa.  

You need to cap ICO because we will be Craiged. Too much investors= high price = drop :/


The "Crowd sale" will last for 30 days.  We will take into consideration public feedback during that time.

Keep in mind, our business model is different than any coin prior to us.  Breakout Gaming and its community will provide liquidity for its initial investors.  The advantage of a being a fully licensed and regulated gaming company is that we are able to accept "fiat" payment processing.  This literally opens the entire world to market.  We are not limited to the crypto community. 

By having our games denominated in BRO, we must "buy" potentially millions worth of BRO daily in order to keep a reserve that covers the BRO chips in play on our platform.  The players themselves will the second, third, fourth, etc.. wave of investors.  As our user base grows, so will the demand and liquidity for BRO Coin.

BRO business model will be the first crypto that brings in "fiat" capital to the crypto market.




Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 16, 2014, 09:28:16 PM
Not going to be able to participate in the ICO, but I wish all future investors and the BRO dev team the best of luck. We need more projects like this that shines a very good light on crypto.

Thank you!  That means a lot to us  :D



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: barabbas on October 16, 2014, 09:37:32 PM
The "Bill Gates" argument is an exercise in absurdity for anyone intent of "scooping up" most of the coins could do it just the same during the ICO period. The same way that they could if the price is capped, so it is immaterial either way.

Now the 30 days ICO period is good and is bad. Some will not be interested in having the coins locked for that period. On the other hand,, many will be adjusting their investment along the 320 days depending on many factors, including availability of funds.

The only things I would implement if I were you is VIP coins, with privileges, which I have already pointed out before. Otherwise, this is going to be extremely successful and only limited by the limited availability of BTC in the crypto world that, at the moment, is quite stretched.

Anyone with a minimum investment acumen will see that this is by far the best long term investment ever to appear in crypto... regardless what the final price will be.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Kuriso on October 16, 2014, 09:48:55 PM
has there been any real proof that these 'big name' players are involved or 'behind' bro?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 16, 2014, 09:51:16 PM
has there been any real proof that these 'big name' players are involved or 'behind' bro?

Please start with some of the poker pros' twitters

https://twitter.com/REALJenHarman (https://twitter.com/REALJenHarman)

https://twitter.com/ToddBrunson (https://twitter.com/ToddBrunson)

https://twitter.com/ItsJohnnyChan (https://twitter.com/ItsJohnnyChan)

https://twitter.com/back2backflack (https://twitter.com/back2backflack)

https://twitter.com/ForrestTed (https://twitter.com/ForrestTed)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Kuriso on October 16, 2014, 09:54:30 PM
has there been any real proof that these 'big name' players are involved or 'behind' bro?

Please start with the poker pros' twitters

links?  idk all their handles.  you should update the OP with this information.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 16, 2014, 09:57:48 PM
has there been any real proof that these 'big name' players are involved or 'behind' bro?

Please start with the poker pros' twitters

links?  idk all their handles.  you should update the OP with this information.

https://twitter.com/REALJenHarman (https://twitter.com/REALJenHarman)

https://twitter.com/ToddBrunson (https://twitter.com/ToddBrunson)

https://twitter.com/ItsJohnnyChan (https://twitter.com/ItsJohnnyChan)

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Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Skatebird on October 16, 2014, 10:08:40 PM
So you dont care of investors, you only care of the money you gonna grab, just try to understand us. Btw, this is what we call free market, if people are willing to gamble big amount, its their problem, you cant control everything


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 16, 2014, 10:25:15 PM
So you dont care of investors, you only care of the money you gonna grab, just try to understand us. Btw, this is what we call free market, if people are willing to gamble big amount, its their problem, you cant control everything

Skatebird,

Of course we care about our "coin sale" participants, they will be our core supporters throughout our journey.  This is a long-term project and not designed for a quick pump and dump.  We have an actual business plan that we are prepared to execute that will benefit the entire BRO community.  


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BoscoMurray on October 16, 2014, 10:29:17 PM
Good luck with the launch of BRO. I'm guessing it'll do well. When does mining begin?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 16, 2014, 10:35:01 PM
Good luck with the launch of BRO. I'm guessing it'll do well. When does mining begin?

Thanks BoscoMurray, mining will begin with the launch of our platform.  The software is well into development and hope to be ready shortly after the "crowd sale" ends.  However, our primary concern is security. anti-fraud, anti-collusion, and licensing.  We will be doing extensive QA testing and will not launch until we are 100% confident that all systems are in place and secure.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Koontas on October 16, 2014, 10:48:01 PM
"BRO"!  ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING, "BRO"?   'CMON "BRO" LET'S GO GET WASTED AND PICK UP SOME WHORES.  HEY, "BRO", LETS GO TO THE GYM AND SLAM SOME ROIDS.

ARE YOU GETTING MY POINT YET, "BRO"?

DOUCHY.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 17, 2014, 12:07:08 AM
"BRO"!  ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING, "BRO"?   'CMON "BRO" LET'S GO GET WASTED AND PICK UP SOME WHORES.  HEY, "BRO", LETS GO TO THE GYM AND SLAM SOME ROIDS.

ARE YOU GETTING MY POINT YET, "BRO"?

DOUCHY.

Guess you don't like the name of our coin. Sorry. 


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Kuriso on October 17, 2014, 12:33:41 AM
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2) More fair distribution vs price per coin.  There are only 4.5 millions BRO offered in the ICO and an uncapped ICO would not allow the Bill Gates to scoop up most or all of the coins
Not really.  'Bill Gates' or the 'whales' can still dump more btc than any other users and gain a higher % of the coins. 

Example 1: If 10 people give 10btc or 1 btc each, it wont matter.  They each get 1/10th of the 4.5 million coins with equal buy-ins.  The only thing that changes is the theoretical market cap.  No 'Bill Gates' here but this will not happen either.
 
Example 2: If 9 people give 1btc and 1 person gives 10btc, the MC is 19btc or 236,842bro per btc.  9 people get 236,842bro and 1 person gets 2,368,420bro.  You have a 'Bill Gates'.

Example 3: If 100 people give an avg of .5btc each and 10 people give an average of 5btc each, you have a MC of 100 btc or 45,000bro per btc.  100 people get avg of 22,500bro each and 10 people get 225,000bro each.  Now you have 10 'Bill Gates'.

Of course these are over simplified but the idea is still the same no matter how many investors join or the amount of btc paid in.  You will always have a 'Bill Gates'.  The idea of an uncapped ICO not allowing a 'Bill Gates' is erroneous imho.


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3)  The assumption that uncapped ICO will generate money money than a capped ICO is erroneous imho

Really?  Did you see how much bitcoin the Ether project raised with their uncapped ICO?  An uncapped ICOs will most likely not benefit the investors unless very little bitcoin is paid in.  Based on past experiences, it will almost certainly only benefit you, the devs.



Potential ICO investors, remember this is a ICO/POW coin.  Miners are generally dumpers.  Looks like there are coins being given away free as well.  These can be dumped at any price.  You are paying a flat fee for the coins but you have no idea what that fee will be.  It will change as more btc is paid in.  Things actually get worse as you have more investors spending more btc.  Roughly 9,500bro will be mined every day.  As the potential market cap grows from the ICO, the daily cost in keeping the market price steady will increase. 

Will the amount of BTC raised be public so that investors can judge their potential holdings and cost per BRO?

I'm very, very interested in getting in on this coin but the uncapped limit is almost a deal breaker.  I'd only be a buyer at the end of the 30 days and with less than 500 btc raised.  That puts the MC low and at a really reasonable price.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Koontas on October 17, 2014, 12:35:41 AM
"BRO"!  ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING, "BRO"?   'CMON "BRO" LET'S GO GET WASTED AND PICK UP SOME WHORES.  HEY, "BRO", LETS GO TO THE GYM AND SLAM SOME ROIDS.

ARE YOU GETTING MY POINT YET, "BRO"?

DOUCHY.

Guess you don't like the name of our coin. Sorry. 

I like the name, I don't like "BRO", anything would have been better than that (unless you live in New Jersey).


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Skatebird on October 17, 2014, 01:00:36 AM
Kuriso is 100% right, if you are to greedy to understand that, you wont see my btc there. Its bad because i really like the concept but you cant make same mistakes as craig coins.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 17, 2014, 01:18:46 AM
The "Bill Gates" argument is an exercise in absurdity for anyone intent of "scooping up" most of the coins could do it just the same during the ICO period. The same way that they could if the price is capped, so it is immaterial either way.

Now the 30 days ICO period is good and is bad. Some will not be interested in having the coins locked for that period. On the other hand,, many will be adjusting their investment along the 320 days depending on many factors, including availability of funds.

The only things I would implement if I were you is VIP coins, with privileges, which I have already pointed out before. Otherwise, this is going to be extremely successful and only limited by the limited availability of BTC in the crypto world that, at the moment, is quite stretched.

Anyone with a minimum investment acumen will see that this is by far the best long term investment ever to appear in crypto... regardless what the final price will be.

Nice to hear from you Barabbas.  You are one of the most critical knowledgeable informed investors on these forums and you've given our project an unequivocal endorsement.  Nice to hear.  Thank you


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 17, 2014, 01:34:52 AM
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2) More fair distribution vs price per coin.  There are only 4.5 millions BRO offered in the ICO and an uncapped ICO would not allow the Bill Gates to scoop up most or all of the coins
Not really.  'Bill Gates' or the 'whales' can still dump more btc than any other users and gain a higher % of the coins.

Example 1: If 10 people give 10btc or 1 btc each, it wont matter.  They each get 1/10th of the 4.5 million coins with equal buy-ins.  The only thing that changes is the theoretical market cap.  No 'Bill Gates' here but this will not happen either.
 
Example 2: If 9 people give 1btc and 1 person gives 10btc, the MC is 19btc or 236,842bro per btc.  9 people get 236,842bro and 1 person gets 2,368,420bro.  You have a 'Bill Gates'.

Example 3: If 100 people give an avg of .5btc each and 10 people give an average of 5btc each, you have a MC of 100 btc or 45,000bro per btc.  100 people get avg of 22,500bro each and 10 people get 225,000bro each.  Now you have 10 'Bill Gates'.

Of course these are over simplified but the idea is still the same no matter how many investors join or the amount of btc paid in.  You will always have a 'Bill Gates'.  The idea of an uncapped ICO not allowing a 'Bill Gates' is erroneous imho.

Thank you for pointing this out


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3)  The assumption that uncapped ICO will generate money money than a capped ICO is erroneous imho

Really?  Did you see how much bitcoin the Ether project raised with their uncapped ICO?  An uncapped ICOs will most likely not benefit the investors unless very little bitcoin is paid in.  Based on past experiences, it will almost certainly only benefit you, the devs.

I also said in the same sentence


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... In the end, if the project is sound then it will be supported by the community, and vice versa. 

Of course Ethereum was very successful because it has been a promising project.  There are so many other ICOs, both capped and uncapped that failed due to lack of vision/community support, etc..  This is the point that I was trying to make.

I sincerely thank you for an intelligent discussion. 




Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 17, 2014, 03:48:20 AM
Hello everyone,

We wanted to let the community know that we are listening to your comments.  The Breakout Team will be discussing over the next several days, several ways to reward potential "Coin Sale" participants.  However, we have to be careful not to upset the business model, as player acquisition and a growing user base is absolutely essential to the growth of the value of BRO.  

All comments positive or negative are welcome on this forum and will be taken into consideration, as we will be working closely with the community continually.

Thank you!

Breakout Team


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Koontas on October 17, 2014, 03:50:11 AM
For everyone's sake, please reconsider "BRO"...  It is the complete opposite of the vibe you want to put off, I hope.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Viper1 on October 17, 2014, 03:53:29 AM
For everyone's sake, please reconsider "BRO"...  It is the complete opposite of the vibe you want to put off, I hope.

I know what you mean.  As soon as I saw that I just did one of those face palm things with the thought that it's a bunch of 20 somethings running the show that somehow think that will make them look like a serious coin.  But then again I tend to look at these things a lot differently than most it seems.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 17, 2014, 04:31:21 AM
For everyone's sake, please reconsider "BRO"...  It is the complete opposite of the vibe you want to put off, I hope.


Koontas .  I'm so sorry ! I kind of understand what you are saying. We have gone way too far with this branding to stop now.  The project the coin have gotten tremendous publicity already.  Please live with it and don't let the name dissuade you from joining us.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutCoin on October 17, 2014, 04:32:32 AM

Will the amount of BTC raised be public so that investors can judge their potential holdings and cost per BRO?


yes, you will see something like this:

https://blockchain.info/unspent?cors=true&api_code=5b846ae8-eb56-4c14-aae9-bd13056b6df7&active=1LbqzdCCvMyXfJCzDGKaBaEK8CixYeoLrm

and it will be right there on the page when your buying.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 17, 2014, 04:33:15 AM
-- I agree "BRO" is over the top.. everyone is just excited, its been a long wait.

-- Its Breakout Coin, its an alt-coin, with a marketing and distribution strategy and is tied to a global gaming startup with long time professionals.

--  Its not 100% pre-mined, its not going to be insta-mined, its not a pump and dump.

-- There is real innovation in Proof-of-Bergstake, the ico, the marketing, design, games, and more

-- we can set a price of the coin and have the total pre-mine uncapped like ethereum, or we can have the 4.5 million without a price.. in the end the ico investors will have the same percentage of the pre-mine.. the ICO is actually 45million milliBreakoutcoins, sound better?

-- I would assume they are trying to raise 8-15 thousand bitcoin. is the early bird incentive structure not common in regards to ico distribution?

-- the sale could always be stopped early, has happens many time on successful ICOs, however, in this case we really just want longer term investors that are looking to hold for months, we want investors that will actually be "mining" with their bergstake in 2016.

-- After the ICO, all holders are part of the breakout network and can vote for anything related to the coin.

rising tides gentlemen




Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 17, 2014, 04:43:51 AM
For everyone's sake, please reconsider "BRO"...  It is the complete opposite of the vibe you want to put off, I hope.

I know what you mean.  As soon as I saw that I just did one of those face palm things with the thought that it's a bunch of 20 somethings running the show that somehow think that will make them look like a serious coin.  But then again I tend to look at these things a lot differently than most it seems.

Okay point noted.  But with any investigation you will see that your assumption can't be further from the truth.  I'm far more proud of the project concept and team than the coin acronym.



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 17, 2014, 04:48:25 AM
For everyone's sake, please reconsider "BRO"...  It is the complete opposite of the vibe you want to put off, I hope.

I know what you mean.  As soon as I saw that I just did one of those face palm things with the thought that it's a bunch of 20 somethings running the show that somehow think that will make them look like a serious coin.  But then again I tend to look at these things a lot differently than most it seems.

Okay point noted.  But with any investigation you will see that your assumption can't be further from the truth.  I'm far more proud of the project concept and team than the coin acronym.



BRO is the ticker symbol. its breakout coin, or breakouts, or the coin formerly known as

http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/quickchart/quickchart.asp?symb=BRO&insttype=&freq=2&show=&time=20



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: barabbas on October 17, 2014, 04:53:41 AM
The "Bill Gates" argument is an exercise in absurdity for anyone intent of "scooping up" most of the coins could do it just the same during the ICO period. The same way that they could if the price is capped, so it is immaterial either way.

Now the 30 days ICO period is good and is bad. Some will not be interested in having the coins locked for that period. On the other hand,, many will be adjusting their investment along the 320 days depending on many factors, including availability of funds.

The only things I would implement if I were you is VIP coins, with privileges, which I have already pointed out before. Otherwise, this is going to be extremely successful and only limited by the limited availability of BTC in the crypto world that, at the moment, is quite stretched.

Anyone with a minimum investment acumen will see that this is by far the best long term investment ever to appear in crypto... regardless what the final price will be.

Nice to hear from you Barabbas.  You are one of the most critical knowledgeable informed investors on these forums and you've given our project an unequivocal endorsement.  Nice to hear.  Thank you

Thank you Randy for the nice words.

I'll have to add though that my "endorsement" is not without some important caveats:

-- I believe the price of BRO in the markets will be highly manipulated by Breakout Gaming.

-- I have only seen a few snapshots of the actual platform. If the experience is not easy and rewarding, from the entertainment side of things, the potential success will be clearly diminished. Not having a working test one available is, in my opinion, a severe mistake that may reasonably hold out some big investors.

-- Bergstake and its liquidity remain a big not fully explained enigma. Additionally, the 7 million BRO that is going to be given away should not include Bergstake and those Bergstake should be destroyed to increase the value of the ones mined or obtained through the ICO.

Other than that, yes, this is a very interesting project that will make crypto history, I believe.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 17, 2014, 05:03:15 AM

-- I believe the price of BRO in the markets will be highly manipulated by Breakout Gaming.


more like provide liquidity for. i just dont see the incentive.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: barabbas on October 17, 2014, 05:08:54 AM

-- I believe the price of BRO in the markets will be highly manipulated by Breakout Gaming.


more like provide liquidity for. i just dont see the incentive.


I have explained it before a couple of times... adding that it isn't only legal but that if it was me I would use it as a souce of additional revenue:

Breakout Gaming through rakes, fees, buy ins, etc., will receive a lot of both fiat, BTC and BRO, along the huge amount it will have already through their 67% ownership of the coin. It WILL dump to replenish the reserves at will, thus sinking the market to buy cheaper. Whale action 101. The incentive will be significant from the get go but, as the success of the project augments, we are talking huge income on that manipulation alone. HUGE.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 17, 2014, 05:23:10 AM

-- I believe the price of BRO in the markets will be highly manipulated by Breakout Gaming.


more like provide liquidity for. i just dont see the incentive.


I have explained it before a couple of times... adding that it isn't only legal but that if it was me I would use it as a souce of additional revenue:

Breakout Gaming through rakes, fees, buy ins, etc., will receive a lot of both fiat, BTC and BRO, along the huge amount it will have already through their 67% ownership of the coin. It WILL dump to replenish the reserves at will, thus sinking the market to buy cheaper. Whale action 101. The incentive will be significant from the get go but, as the success of the project augments, we are talking huge income on that manipulation alone. HUGE.

there is no 67% coins - more like 11%

where do you think some of the 2.5 million is going?  the humans in the company are breakoutcoin stakeholders to. also the bergstake, gives incentive to keep prices stable.

its doesn't work like that, even if you can sell it down.. there wont be enough liquidity to buy it back at lower prices. Whale action 101? has this ever been verified? does this even work? they have looking into silver prices forever, and its still inconclusive, its not such a simple strategy.

 


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: barabbas on October 17, 2014, 05:48:06 AM

-- I believe the price of BRO in the markets will be highly manipulated by Breakout Gaming.


more like provide liquidity for. i just dont see the incentive.


I have explained it before a couple of times... adding that it isn't only legal but that if it was me I would use it as a souce of additional revenue:

Breakout Gaming through rakes, fees, buy ins, etc., will receive a lot of both fiat, BTC and BRO, along the huge amount it will have already through their 67% ownership of the coin. It WILL dump to replenish the reserves at will, thus sinking the market to buy cheaper. Whale action 101. The incentive will be significant from the get go but, as the success of the project augments, we are talking huge income on that manipulation alone. HUGE.

there is no 67% coins - more like 11%

where do you think some of the 2.5 million is going?  the humans in the company are breakoutcoin stakeholders to. also the bergstake, gives incentive to keep prices stable.

its doesn't work like that, even if you can sell it down.. there wont be enough liquidity to buy it back at lower prices. Whale action 101? has this ever been verified? does this even work? they have looking into silver prices forever, and its still inconclusive, its not such a simple strategy.

 

I won't argue the % because it is irrelevant to the subject of price manipulation. It works like this: You get inflows of fiat, BTC and BRO constantly, right?
You need a supply, on a given period, of let's say 100,000 BRO. You accumulate (through those inflows, plus your "11%"), 20 times as much. So the price, while you have been only buying (with the BTC and Fiat incoming), has been  rising, lets say to 1000 sat. You start dumping. And continue dumping. And continue dumping, as the price dives. You dump until it goes to 500, not just because you dump but because people panic sell. At 500, you start buying. And price goes back up. Rinse and repeat. Because you have unlimited reserves, you can do this at whatever scale the markets support. If Breakout gaming is successful, the level can be very, very high. And the frequency. The obvious purpose is to dump at a median price of 7 and buy back the same amount at the median price of 6. Thousands of times. Millions to be had. Whale 101.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 17, 2014, 06:02:33 AM
You start dumping. And continue dumping. And continue dumping, as the price dives. You dump until it goes to 500, not just because you dump but because people panic sell. At 500, you start buying. And price goes back up. Rinse and repeat.

what is your average selling price on the way down and what is your average buying price on the way back up? this is the only thing that determines alpha in this simple strategy. take a look at bottoms or lows at any free market. what do you notice?    

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/613801/Screenshot%202014-10-16%2022.55.08.png

notice the volume spikes at the lows? this brings the vwap down on the way down and up on the way up.  prices move towards liquidity, not away from it. prices bottom when selling stops, the buyers at lows are not overwhelming, yet the snap back is so violent, simply due of lack of sellers. there is where liquidity in reality kills the backtested alpha.

this strategy has no alpha for the big player, maybe there are weak hands that capitulate at tops and bottoms, and this strategy works for a mid size player, by making an aggressive sell to start an avalanche of stops. the big player has better alpha providing heavy liquidly on both sides, and given that the gaming company wants to retain its players, and players don't like to be exposed to extreme volatility, i would say the alpha is in providing liquidity, rather then starting a panic.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 17, 2014, 06:10:12 AM

-- I believe the price of BRO in the markets will be highly manipulated by Breakout Gaming.


more like provide liquidity for. i just dont see the incentive.


I have explained it before a couple of times... adding that it isn't only legal but that if it was me I would use it as a souce of additional revenue:

Breakout Gaming through rakes, fees, buy ins, etc., will receive a lot of both fiat, BTC and BRO, along the huge amount it will have already through their 67% ownership of the coin. It WILL dump to replenish the reserves at will, thus sinking the market to buy cheaper. Whale action 101. The incentive will be significant from the get go but, as the success of the project augments, we are talking huge income on that manipulation alone. HUGE.

there is no 67% coins - more like 11%

where do you think some of the 2.5 million is going?  the humans in the company are breakoutcoin stakeholders to. also the bergstake, gives incentive to keep prices stable.

its doesn't work like that, even if you can sell it down.. there wont be enough liquidity to buy it back at lower prices. Whale action 101? has this ever been verified? does this even work? they have looking into silver prices forever, and its still inconclusive, its not such a simple strategy.

 

I won't argue the % because it is irrelevant to the subject of price manipulation. It works like this: You get inflows of fiat, BTC and BRO constantly, right?
You need a supply, on a given period, of let's say 100,000 BRO. You accumulate (through those inflows, plus your "11%"), 20 times as much. So the price, while you have been only buying (with the BTC and Fiat incoming), has been  rising, lets say to 1000 sat. You start dumping. And continue dumping. And continue dumping, as the price dives. You dump until it goes to 500, not just because you dump but because people panic sell. At 500, you start buying. And price goes back up. Rinse and repeat. Because you have unlimited reserves, you can do this at whatever scale the markets support. If Breakout gaming is successful, the level can be very, very high. And the frequency. The obvious purpose is to dump at a median price of 7 and buy back the same amount at the median price of 6. Thousands of times. Millions to be had. Whale 101.

Barrabas,

We won't argue with your reasoning, but I will let you know this.  We will be working closely with the community throughout our entire project.  Our business plan is long-term.  We are not in this for the short run.  We want to end up competing with the likes of Pokerstars and Fanduel. The worst thing that can happen is for a player to buyin at a certain price and cashout at a lower price.  If that happens, we potentially lose a customer for life.  Our number one goal is to provide stability for the players, even if we occasionally have to take a loss, we will do what is necessary for the growth of our player base.

The worst thing we can do is to be short-sighted and think short term in terms of profits.  We will not shoot ourselves in the foot by hurting our own community.  We will be very active in these forums and will continue to communicate with our core investors and owners of Bergstake.  We appreciate all your constructive criticism and hope that you will continue to contribute to this forum so we can address the many concerns the Breakout community may have.  



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: nonlinearboy on October 17, 2014, 07:20:34 AM
You need to cap ICO because we will be Craiged. Too much investors= high price = drop :/

everyone should be careful of ICO at this time,
too much scamers!

exactly y im investing in bro.  its the only coin that has a real business plan and credible peeps baking it up. worthy
OK, I will keep eye on this coin ,too.
if the community prove it worthy ,I will join in.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: ofortuna on October 17, 2014, 07:56:52 AM
You need to cap ICO because we will be Craiged. Too much investors= high price = drop :/

everyone should be careful of ICO at this time,
too much scamers!

exactly y im investing in bro.  its the only coin that has a real business plan and credible peeps baking it up. worthy
OK, I will keep eye on this coin ,too.
if the community prove it worthy ,I will join in.

Hi nonlinearboy and welcome to our community!  ;D



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: michaelb87 on October 17, 2014, 08:08:21 AM
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2) More fair distribution vs price per coin.  There are only 4.5 millions BRO offered in the ICO and an uncapped ICO would not allow the Bill Gates to scoop up most or all of the coins
Not really.  'Bill Gates' or the 'whales' can still dump more btc than any other users and gain a higher % of the coins.  

Example 1: If 10 people give 10btc or 1 btc each, it wont matter.  They each get 1/10th of the 4.5 million coins with equal buy-ins.  The only thing that changes is the theoretical market cap.  No 'Bill Gates' here but this will not happen either.
 
Example 2: If 9 people give 1btc and 1 person gives 10btc, the MC is 19btc or 236,842bro per btc.  9 people get 236,842bro and 1 person gets 2,368,420bro.  You have a 'Bill Gates'.

Example 3: If 100 people give an avg of .5btc each and 10 people give an average of 5btc each, you have a MC of 100 btc or 45,000bro per btc.  100 people get avg of 22,500bro each and 10 people get 225,000bro each.  Now you have 10 'Bill Gates'.

Of course these are over simplified but the idea is still the same no matter how many investors join or the amount of btc paid in.  You will always have a 'Bill Gates'.  The idea of an uncapped ICO not allowing a 'Bill Gates' is erroneous imho.


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3)  The assumption that uncapped ICO will generate money money than a capped ICO is erroneous imho

Really?  Did you see how much bitcoin the Ether project raised with their uncapped ICO?  An uncapped ICOs will most likely not benefit the investors unless very little bitcoin is paid in.  Based on past experiences, it will almost certainly only benefit you, the devs.



Potential ICO investors, remember this is a ICO/POW coin.  Miners are generally dumpers.  Looks like there are coins being given away free as well.  These can be dumped at any price.  You are paying a flat fee for the coins but you have no idea what that fee will be.  It will change as more btc is paid in.  Things actually get worse as you have more investors spending more btc.  Roughly 9,500bro will be mined every day.  As the potential market cap grows from the ICO, the daily cost in keeping the market price steady will increase.  

Will the amount of BTC raised be public so that investors can judge their potential holdings and cost per BRO?

I'm very, very interested in getting in on this coin but the uncapped limit is almost a deal breaker.  I'd only be a buyer at the end of the 30 days and with less than 500 btc raised.  That puts the MC low and at a really reasonable price.

+10000.

Without a cap there is no way I'm investing. Guaranteed loss if you do invest, especially with POW dumpers. Cap should be MAX 400 BTC, everything above that will guarantee a loss.

Look at SysCoin. They raised about 460 BTC and had a wat better businessplan but still people lost on it. More than 400 BTC makes sure all demand is sucked dry into the ICO and nobody willing to buy after the ICO.

I'm so tired of these greedy devs. Just be happy with 400 BTC, that's a huge amount! Take some pride in your work. Everybody here wants to hit the jackpot first and work after. That's not real life


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: barabbas on October 17, 2014, 08:17:36 AM
You start dumping. And continue dumping. And continue dumping, as the price dives. You dump until it goes to 500, not just because you dump but because people panic sell. At 500, you start buying. And price goes back up. Rinse and repeat.

what is your average selling price on the way down and what is your average buying price on the way back up? this is the only thing that determines alpha in this simple strategy. take a look at bottoms or lows at any free market. what do you notice?    

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/613801/Screenshot%202014-10-16%2022.55.08.png

notice the volume spikes at the lows? this brings the vwap down on the way down and up on the way up.  prices move towards liquidity, not away from it. prices bottom when selling stops, the buyers at lows are not overwhelming, yet the snap back is so violent, simply due of lack of sellers. there is where liquidity in reality kills the backtested alpha.

this strategy has no alpha for the big player, maybe there are weak hands that capitulate at tops and bottoms, and this strategy works for a mid size player, by making an aggressive sell to start an avalanche of stops. the big player has better alpha providing heavy liquidly on both sides, and given that the gaming company wants to retain its players, and players don't like to be exposed to extreme volatility, i would say the alpha is in providing liquidity, rather then starting a panic.

Jay, I know you are fully aware of the term "capitulation". You can provoke that daily or even more frequently if you want to. That's where the scoop comes. And you can also control the rebound. You can control it both ways and determine tops and bottoms.

As for the price being stable, I don't know if that's even desirable or attractive to cryptonites... where are they going to make money to justify their investment if the price remains stable?  


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: barabbas on October 17, 2014, 08:22:20 AM
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2) More fair distribution vs price per coin.  There are only 4.5 millions BRO offered in the ICO and an uncapped ICO would not allow the Bill Gates to scoop up most or all of the coins
Not really.  'Bill Gates' or the 'whales' can still dump more btc than any other users and gain a higher % of the coins.  

Example 1: If 10 people give 10btc or 1 btc each, it wont matter.  They each get 1/10th of the 4.5 million coins with equal buy-ins.  The only thing that changes is the theoretical market cap.  No 'Bill Gates' here but this will not happen either.
 
Example 2: If 9 people give 1btc and 1 person gives 10btc, the MC is 19btc or 236,842bro per btc.  9 people get 236,842bro and 1 person gets 2,368,420bro.  You have a 'Bill Gates'.

Example 3: If 100 people give an avg of .5btc each and 10 people give an average of 5btc each, you have a MC of 100 btc or 45,000bro per btc.  100 people get avg of 22,500bro each and 10 people get 225,000bro each.  Now you have 10 'Bill Gates'.

Of course these are over simplified but the idea is still the same no matter how many investors join or the amount of btc paid in.  You will always have a 'Bill Gates'.  The idea of an uncapped ICO not allowing a 'Bill Gates' is erroneous imho.


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3)  The assumption that uncapped ICO will generate money money than a capped ICO is erroneous imho

Really?  Did you see how much bitcoin the Ether project raised with their uncapped ICO?  An uncapped ICOs will most likely not benefit the investors unless very little bitcoin is paid in.  Based on past experiences, it will almost certainly only benefit you, the devs.



Potential ICO investors, remember this is a ICO/POW coin.  Miners are generally dumpers.  Looks like there are coins being given away free as well.  These can be dumped at any price.  You are paying a flat fee for the coins but you have no idea what that fee will be.  It will change as more btc is paid in.  Things actually get worse as you have more investors spending more btc.  Roughly 9,500bro will be mined every day.  As the potential market cap grows from the ICO, the daily cost in keeping the market price steady will increase.  

Will the amount of BTC raised be public so that investors can judge their potential holdings and cost per BRO?

I'm very, very interested in getting in on this coin but the uncapped limit is almost a deal breaker.  I'd only be a buyer at the end of the 30 days and with less than 500 btc raised.  That puts the MC low and at a really reasonable price.

+10000.

Without a cap there is no way I'm investing. Guaranteed loss if you do invest, especially with POW dumpers. Cap should be MAX 400 BTC, everything above that will guarantee a loss.

Look at SysCoin. They raised about 460 BTC and had a wat better businessplan but still people lost on it. More than 400 BTC makes sure all demand is sucked dry into the ICO and nobody willing to buy after the ICO.

I'm so tired of these greedy devs. Just be happy with 400 BTC, that's a huge amount! Take some pride in your work. Everybody here wants to hit the jackpot first and work after. That's not real life


Sorry but that is very juvenile perception. This is a BUSINESS. With investors behind it. A business that requires big money to be built. It doesn't matter one bit if the cap the price or not, nothing changes the outcome. This will get whatever amount of BTC it will and that will be the same whether it is capped or not. The price of the coin is irrelevant, the only measure that matters is the market cap assigned to the entire supply, not the price per coin of the 4.5 million on offer.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: michaelb87 on October 17, 2014, 12:24:22 PM
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2) More fair distribution vs price per coin.  There are only 4.5 millions BRO offered in the ICO and an uncapped ICO would not allow the Bill Gates to scoop up most or all of the coins
Not really.  'Bill Gates' or the 'whales' can still dump more btc than any other users and gain a higher % of the coins.  

Example 1: If 10 people give 10btc or 1 btc each, it wont matter.  They each get 1/10th of the 4.5 million coins with equal buy-ins.  The only thing that changes is the theoretical market cap.  No 'Bill Gates' here but this will not happen either.
 
Example 2: If 9 people give 1btc and 1 person gives 10btc, the MC is 19btc or 236,842bro per btc.  9 people get 236,842bro and 1 person gets 2,368,420bro.  You have a 'Bill Gates'.

Example 3: If 100 people give an avg of .5btc each and 10 people give an average of 5btc each, you have a MC of 100 btc or 45,000bro per btc.  100 people get avg of 22,500bro each and 10 people get 225,000bro each.  Now you have 10 'Bill Gates'.

Of course these are over simplified but the idea is still the same no matter how many investors join or the amount of btc paid in.  You will always have a 'Bill Gates'.  The idea of an uncapped ICO not allowing a 'Bill Gates' is erroneous imho.


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3)  The assumption that uncapped ICO will generate money money than a capped ICO is erroneous imho

Really?  Did you see how much bitcoin the Ether project raised with their uncapped ICO?  An uncapped ICOs will most likely not benefit the investors unless very little bitcoin is paid in.  Based on past experiences, it will almost certainly only benefit you, the devs.



Potential ICO investors, remember this is a ICO/POW coin.  Miners are generally dumpers.  Looks like there are coins being given away free as well.  These can be dumped at any price.  You are paying a flat fee for the coins but you have no idea what that fee will be.  It will change as more btc is paid in.  Things actually get worse as you have more investors spending more btc.  Roughly 9,500bro will be mined every day.  As the potential market cap grows from the ICO, the daily cost in keeping the market price steady will increase.  

Will the amount of BTC raised be public so that investors can judge their potential holdings and cost per BRO?

I'm very, very interested in getting in on this coin but the uncapped limit is almost a deal breaker.  I'd only be a buyer at the end of the 30 days and with less than 500 btc raised.  That puts the MC low and at a really reasonable price.

+10000.

Without a cap there is no way I'm investing. Guaranteed loss if you do invest, especially with POW dumpers. Cap should be MAX 400 BTC, everything above that will guarantee a loss.

Look at SysCoin. They raised about 460 BTC and had a wat better businessplan but still people lost on it. More than 400 BTC makes sure all demand is sucked dry into the ICO and nobody willing to buy after the ICO.

I'm so tired of these greedy devs. Just be happy with 400 BTC, that's a huge amount! Take some pride in your work. Everybody here wants to hit the jackpot first and work after. That's not real life


Sorry but that is very juvenile perception. This is a BUSINESS. With investors behind it. A business that requires big money to be built. It doesn't matter one bit if the cap the price or not, nothing changes the outcome. This will get whatever amount of BTC it will and that will be the same whether it is capped or not. The price of the coin is irrelevant, the only measure that matters is the market cap assigned to the entire supply, not the price per coin of the 4.5 million on offer.

Dream on. Most investors are here solely for a quick profit, not everybody, but most of them. I've seem them all come by. And that's not a bad thing. Let us support the build and launch of a coin, take our profit and let others get in for the long term.

But respect that type of investor because they are 80% of your potential investors. Uncapped ICO's will leave them with a loss which is a bad thing for crypto in general. Looks like greedy devs screwing people over.

Make an ICO reasonable or don't do it at all.



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 17, 2014, 02:28:35 PM
Make an ICO reasonable or don't do it at all.

please explain what a capped ICO is? Are we supposed to be deciding the price and the quantity? If so we would be deciding the initial market-cap of the coin? Isn't that for the market to decide?

If we set price to high, there will be no buyers, if we set price to low, it will be sold in in minutes, and the distribution will be centralized.

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Uncapped ICO's will leave them with a loss which is a bad thing for crypto in general. Looks like greedy devs screwing people over.
If this is known, shouldn't the market adjust itself for this? If uncapped produces losses, then there should be less buying interest, which would eventually produce profits, and this should go back and forth until the market finds value.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jibble on October 17, 2014, 03:17:47 PM

+10000.

Without a cap there is no way I'm investing. Guaranteed loss if you do invest, especially with POW dumpers. Cap should be MAX 400 BTC, everything above that will guarantee a loss.

Look at SysCoin. They raised about 460 BTC and had a wat better businessplan but still people lost on it. More than 400 BTC makes sure all demand is sucked dry into the ICO and nobody willing to buy after the ICO.

I'm so tired of these greedy devs. Just be happy with 400 BTC, that's a huge amount! Take some pride in your work. Everybody here wants to hit the jackpot first and work after. That's not real life


Eveerything you said here is verifiable bullshit, there have been numerous IPO's that have a fraction of the plans/feature and developments that have raised 900btc+ and investors have profited

Sys coin raised about 1500 btc and then on release it fucked up causing massive panic and people dumping at a loss.

I am so tired of people who can't even write truthful details , either you are trying to manipulate the facts to try and make them set a really low cap on investment or you really are a stupid fucker that just guesses shit without even researching, or just remembering what actually happened previously, it wasn't even that long ago, you could of just looked up what you were talking about instead of talking 100% bullsht


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 17, 2014, 03:51:02 PM

+10000.

Without a cap there is no way I'm investing. Guaranteed loss if you do invest, especially with POW dumpers. Cap should be MAX 400 BTC, everything above that will guarantee a loss.

Look at SysCoin. They raised about 460 BTC and had a wat better businessplan but still people lost on it. More than 400 BTC makes sure all demand is sucked dry into the ICO and nobody willing to buy after the ICO.

I'm so tired of these greedy devs. Just be happy with 400 BTC, that's a huge amount! Take some pride in your work. Everybody here wants to hit the jackpot first and work after. That's not real life


I won't get into whether Syscoin has a better business plan, but i thought the initial ico was 460 btc or so raised but the total ipo raised 1500 btc no?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 17, 2014, 05:31:51 PM

+10000.

Without a cap there is no way I'm investing. Guaranteed loss if you do invest, especially with POW dumpers. Cap should be MAX 400 BTC, everything above that will guarantee a loss.

Look at SysCoin. They raised about 460 BTC and had a wat better businessplan but still people lost on it. More than 400 BTC makes sure all demand is sucked dry into the ICO and nobody willing to buy after the ICO.

I'm so tired of these greedy devs. Just be happy with 400 BTC, that's a huge amount! Take some pride in your work. Everybody here wants to hit the jackpot first and work after. That's not real life


Eveerything you said here is verifiable bullshit, there have been numerous IPO's that have a fraction of the plans/feature and developments that have raised 900btc+ and investors have profited

Sys coin raised about 1500 btc and then on release it fucked up causing massive panic and people dumping at a loss.

I am so tired of people who can't even write truthful details , either you are trying to manipulate the facts to try and make them set a really low cap on investment or you really are a stupid fucker that just guesses shit without even researching, or just remembering what actually happened previously, it wasn't even that long ago, you could of just looked up what you were talking about instead of talking 100% bullsht

Fyi, Breakout has already invested significant  capital into this project. This is not a conceptual project or investment. We have put a lot of sweat and capital to get the project to where we are now. Breakout Gaming will launch and follow our business plan to success.


The entire Breakout Team is all in. We truly believe in the the future of Cryptocurrencies and Gaming. The Breakout Team is dedicated to make this project a tremendous success. The participants in our crowd sale will also be receiving Bergstake and the right to mine all future coins.  Bergstake is potentially a bigger reward than the coins. This is the first time I can think of, where a crowd sale provided as much leverage and incentive to buyin as Bergstake.

Disclaimer: Breakout Coin and Breakout Gaming are two separate services/entities.  Breakout Coin is offering BRO coins for btc. By participating in this "coin sale," you are not purchasing interest in Breakout Gaming.  You are solely participating in the "coin sale" of a crypto coin that happens to have a gaming company that supports the BRO coin by having their chips denominated in the BRO crypto coin.

As specified in the first paragraph in the Terms and Conditions:

WARNING:  Do not purchase BRO if you are not an expert in crypto tokens or currency and blockchain technology.

This coin sale is not an offer of investment or securities in any business, venture, or company, or in any form of gaming operations or activity; purchase of BRO does not entitle the buyer to any interest in any profits or revenue of any common enterprise arising from the activities of others.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jibble on October 17, 2014, 05:57:12 PM

+10000.

Without a cap there is no way I'm investing. Guaranteed loss if you do invest, especially with POW dumpers. Cap should be MAX 400 BTC, everything above that will guarantee a loss.

Look at SysCoin. They raised about 460 BTC and had a wat better businessplan but still people lost on it. More than 400 BTC makes sure all demand is sucked dry into the ICO and nobody willing to buy after the ICO.

I'm so tired of these greedy devs. Just be happy with 400 BTC, that's a huge amount! Take some pride in your work. Everybody here wants to hit the jackpot first and work after. That's not real life


Eveerything you said here is verifiable bullshit, there have been numerous IPO's that have a fraction of the plans/feature and developments that have raised 900btc+ and investors have profited

Sys coin raised about 1500 btc and then on release it fucked up causing massive panic and people dumping at a loss.

I am so tired of people who can't even write truthful details , either you are trying to manipulate the facts to try and make them set a really low cap on investment or you really are a stupid fucker that just guesses shit without even researching, or just remembering what actually happened previously, it wasn't even that long ago, you could of just looked up what you were talking about instead of talking 100% bullsht

Fyi, Breakout has already invested significant  capital into this project. This is not a conceptual project or investment. We have put a lot of sweat and capital to get the project to where we are now. Breakout will launch and follow our business plan to success.


The entire Breakout Team is all in. We truly believe in the the future of Cryptocurrencies and Gaming. The Breakout Team is dedicated to make this project a tremendous success and the investors should see growth if we execute properly. The investors in our crowd sale will also be receiving Bergstake and the right to mine all future coins.  Bergstake is potentially a bigger reward than the coins. This is the first time I can think of, where a crowd sale provided as much leverage and incentive to buyin as Bergstake.

I agree with what you are saying.

I am going to be buying into the IPO on release day to take advantage of bergstake , to allow me to steadily earn in the long term.

I was simply stating the information given by the person who provided it was false.

Syscoin raised 460 btc : No. it raised around 1500 btc in their IPO

everything above 400btc will guarantee a loss : No. there is historical data that proves that statement to be completely false, there have been numerous coins that have raised over 400btc and made profits. most with less foundation work and infrastructure in comparison to breakout.

The person was emotionally driven, given the fact he cherry picked information to back up his own opinion information that was fabricated bullshit, totally false .


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: ofortuna on October 17, 2014, 06:44:13 PM

+10000.

Without a cap there is no way I'm investing. Guaranteed loss if you do invest, especially with POW dumpers. Cap should be MAX 400 BTC, everything above that will guarantee a loss.

Look at SysCoin. They raised about 460 BTC and had a wat better businessplan but still people lost on it. More than 400 BTC makes sure all demand is sucked dry into the ICO and nobody willing to buy after the ICO.

I'm so tired of these greedy devs. Just be happy with 400 BTC, that's a huge amount! Take some pride in your work. Everybody here wants to hit the jackpot first and work after. That's not real life


Eveerything you said here is verifiable bullshit, there have been numerous IPO's that have a fraction of the plans/feature and developments that have raised 900btc+ and investors have profited

Sys coin raised about 1500 btc and then on release it fucked up causing massive panic and people dumping at a loss.

I am so tired of people who can't even write truthful details , either you are trying to manipulate the facts to try and make them set a really low cap on investment or you really are a stupid fucker that just guesses shit without even researching, or just remembering what actually happened previously, it wasn't even that long ago, you could of just looked up what you were talking about instead of talking 100% bullsht

Fyi, Breakout has already invested significant  capital into this project. This is not a conceptual project or investment. We have put a lot of sweat and capital to get the project to where we are now. Breakout will launch and follow our business plan to success.


The entire Breakout Team is all in. We truly believe in the the future of Cryptocurrencies and Gaming. The Breakout Team is dedicated to make this project a tremendous success and the investors should see growth if we execute properly. The investors in our crowd sale will also be receiving Bergstake and the right to mine all future coins.  Bergstake is potentially a bigger reward than the coins. This is the first time I can think of, where a crowd sale provided as much leverage and incentive to buyin as Bergstake.

I agree with what you are saying.

I am going to be buying into the IPO on release day to take advantage of bergstake , to allow me to steadily earn in the long term.

I was simply stating the information given by the person who provided it was false.

Syscoin raised 460 btc : No. it raised around 1500 btc in their IPO

everything above 400btc will guarantee a loss : No. there is historical data that proves that statement to be completely false, there have been numerous coins that have raised over 400btc and made profits. most with less foundation work and infrastructure in comparison to breakout.

The person was emotionally driven, given the fact he cherry picked information to back up his own opinion information that was fabricated bullshit, totally false .

Thank you Jibble  ;D

Through discussion on this thread and the presentation on Breakoutcoin.com, we are trying to get the word out about the cohesive long term plan as best we can.  When people come in with preconceived notions, biases based on their past experiences, or focus on a single detail of Breakout Coin, often they don't get that we are very different than the typical coin project armed with just a whitepaper.

Thank you setting the record straight and your highly valued support!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: illodin on October 17, 2014, 07:29:02 PM
Regarding the unlimited ICO - if you'd like to invest 1 BTC, but don't know what to do because it's unlimited. Hedge your bets and use 0.5 BTC in the ICO, and 0.5 BTC to buy from the exchanges after the ICO. Problem solved?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: illodin on October 17, 2014, 07:30:10 PM
imo there's too much going on with the poker table designs, I say this as a long term grinder myself. will there be a simplified table option ?

Yes, if you want a lot of action, you should please multi-tablers as well.

Easy to customize graphics (or give enough simple themes to choose from), easy to script UI (so people can make AHK scripts to help betting/folding/raising etc) or make it built in to be able to define customized hotkeys with customized actions for any given situation. Please consult some of the multi-tablers and those who make the betting scripts/tools for currently existing sites.

And an option to display bb amounts instead of absolute BRO values is important.. so if you multi-table different stakes you can just 3bet to 9bb for example without doing extra calculations.

And most importantly, make the rake low enough. Like, very low. Dealing with crypto should minimize the losses poker sites usually get from charge backs etc.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: illodin on October 17, 2014, 07:32:11 PM
If anyone has any questions for our poker pros please let me know.  I will forward to our poker agents promptly

How do you play Axs preflop?
Very carefully.😉
Too general.  

What position are you in?
What was the action before you?  
Rule #1, always look left.  Who's to your left and what reads do you have?  
Tight or loose table?
Short handed game or full ring? How many players at the table?
Stack sizes?
Cash game or Tourney?  
What's your image at the table?
Ace rag or what?

Answer those and then we can almost get started with the decision process.  Another X amount of questions to consider based on those answers.

If you didn't even consider this right out of the gate then you're just a home game fish.  ;D

Ok sorry I wasn't specific.

I'm the SB, and everyone has folded to me. BB is a huge fish who will call any amount with any two preflop, and fold to any small bet on the flop unless he hits a set or better. Stacks are 100bb, and it's a cash game. My image is very tight, I've only been seen betting when I have a monster, and never got caught bluffing.









 ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: JakeThePanda on October 17, 2014, 07:47:18 PM
If anyone has any questions for our poker pros please let me know.  I will forward to our poker agents promptly

How do you play Axs preflop?
Very carefully.😉
Too general.  

What position are you in?
What was the action before you?  
Rule #1, always look left.  Who's to your left and what reads do you have?  
Tight or loose table?
Short handed game or full ring? How many players at the table?
Stack sizes?
Cash game or Tourney?  
What's your image at the table?
Ace rag or what?

Answer those and then we can almost get started with the decision process.  Another X amount of questions to consider based on those answers.

If you didn't even consider this right out of the gate then you're just a home game fish.  ;D

Ok sorry I wasn't specific.

I'm the SB, and everyone has folded to me. BB is a huge fish who will call any amount with any two preflop, and fold to any small bet on the flop unless he hits a set or better. Stacks are 100bb, and it's a cash game. My image is very tight, I've only been seen betting when I have a monster, and never got caught bluffing.









 ;)

If villain is a huge fish I want to play as many hands as possible with him, even if I'm OOP.  I would prefer if he was directly to my right, so I will immediately jump on the seat to his left (The Jesus Seat)  if it opens up, without making it obvious of course.  But, the table has already let me isolate him even if it's OOP, so yes they are probably ultra tight.  OOP, who cares, he's a fish and folds too often to cointinuation ;D bets. The dude to my right is probably also a fish if he didn't try to isolate the main fish while he was on the button.  Since villain is a huge fish, he probably didn't notice or care that you play very tight anyway.  

Open 3x, maybe 4x because he folds so often to Cbets. Cbet something on the smallish side.  He only calls Cbets when he has a big hand so a big Cbet will only hurt you.  



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Skatebird on October 17, 2014, 09:05:30 PM
Make an ICO reasonable or don't do it at all.

please explain what a capped ICO is? Are we supposed to be deciding the price and the quantity? If so we would be deciding the initial market-cap of the coin? Isn't that for the market to decide?

If we set price to high, there will be no buyers, if we set price to low, it will be sold in in minutes, and the distribution will be centralized.

Quote
Uncapped ICO's will leave them with a loss which is a bad thing for crypto in general. Looks like greedy devs screwing people over.
If this is known, shouldn't the market adjust itself for this? If uncapped produces losses, then there should be less buying interest, which would eventually produce profits, and this should go back and forth until the market finds value.

http://pivotpointenterprises.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Frustrated-and-I-cant-Believe-It-1030x686.jpg

We all know devs dont want to cap ICO because they are greedy and want max of btc. Real big business dont need unlimited ICO to start and make money. Listen to Dragons Den if you want to validate... In real life,  People work hard and compagnies gain value, thats the way it should work here too. ICO is just suppose to help you at beginning, not pay you for your entire life... Btw, by cap ICO, you give the chance to early investors to get in fast in the project and free market will decide of the market cap after. Its really easy to understand !!! Can we know the fuckin price before investing money ?lolllllll


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* BreakoutCoin | Bergstake | Gaming Platform | Marketing
Post by: ofortuna on October 17, 2014, 09:28:14 PM
If anyone has any questions for our poker pros please let me know.  I will forward to our poker agents promptly

How do you play Axs preflop?
Very carefully.😉
Too general.  

What position are you in?
What was the action before you?  
Rule #1, always look left.  Who's to your left and what reads do you have?  
Tight or loose table?
Short handed game or full ring? How many players at the table?
Stack sizes?
Cash game or Tourney?  
What's your image at the table?
Ace rag or what?

Answer those and then we can almost get started with the decision process.  Another X amount of questions to consider based on those answers.

If you didn't even consider this right out of the gate then you're just a home game fish.  ;D

Ok sorry I wasn't specific.

I'm the SB, and everyone has folded to me. BB is a huge fish who will call any amount with any two preflop, and fold to any small bet on the flop unless he hits a set or better. Stacks are 100bb, and it's a cash game. My image is very tight, I've only been seen betting when I have a monster, and never got caught bluffing.









 ;)

If villain is a huge fish I want to play as many hands as possible with him, even if I'm OOP.  I would prefer if he was directly to my right, so I will immediately jump on the seat to his left (The Jesus Seat)  if it opens up, without making it obvious of course.  But, the table has already let me isolate him even if it's OOP, so yes they are probably ultra tight.  OOP, who cares, he's a fish and folds too often to cointinuation ;D bets. The dude to my right is probably also a fish if he didn't try to isolate the main fish while he was on the button.  Since villain is a huge fish, he probably didn't notice or care that you play very tight anyway.  

Open 3x, maybe 4x because he folds so often to Cbets. Cbet something on the smallish side.  He only calls Cbets when he has a big hand so a big Cbet will only hurt you.  



If someone plays that loose before the flop and that tight on the flop, I would raise preflop as much as he will call and always C-bet.  With any hand.  At least until he adjusts.. if he adjusts.

This is a dream opponent.

However, most players that are super loose and passive preflop continue this trend post flop.

At least that's my 2 BROS worth.



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 17, 2014, 10:27:48 PM
Regarding the unlimited ICO - if you'd like to invest 1 BTC, but don't know what to do because it's unlimited. Hedge your bets and use 0.5 BTC in the ICO, and 0.5 BTC to buy from the exchanges after the ICO. Problem solved?

Great suggestion!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 17, 2014, 10:28:20 PM
Its really easy to understand !!! Can we know the fuckin price before investing money ?lolllllll

do you expect us to give you a price for the 4.5 million coins? If so, we would be setting our own market-cap. Companies NEVER choose their own valuations, markets do.

or do you just want a price, with an uncapped number of coins?  If so, I understand why this would would make you feel better.. but its exactly the same. either price or quantity can be fixed , not both. if you want both, i would suggest you wait to buy in the secondary market.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 17, 2014, 10:29:06 PM
Regarding the unlimited ICO - if you'd like to invest 1 BTC, but don't know what to do because it's unlimited. Hedge your bets and use 0.5 BTC in the ICO, and 0.5 BTC to buy from the exchanges after the ICO. Problem solved?

Great suggestion!

not

in general, uncapped ico does NOT imply a lower price in the secondary market. if it did, then none should invest in the ico and everyone should wait for the secondary market.

in our case its a bit different because in-fact ico coins are more valuable then secondary market coins due to to expected-value of the bergstake.  so in our case, the price of  the ico coins will be higher then the expected price of the secondary market coins. However, the expected-value of the ico coins is higher then the expected-value of secondary market coins.

expected-price(ico coins) = expected-price(secondary market coins) + [ ev(future bergstake coins) discounted for time]

edit:
piece of personal advise i once heard: "one should not invest because of expected returns. one should only invest with risk capital if and only if this risk capital had been put aside "BEFORE", the opportunity presented itself".

this is not early days of bitcoin, this is a serious project with real long term commitments and implications. expect coin to be priced at value. the days of ordering pizza with 10,000 bitcoin are just biblical stories from yesteryears.   


 


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 17, 2014, 10:39:52 PM
Preview a DEMO of our digital hub and games.  When launched, players will have access to the exchange, Poker, Fantasy Sports, Crypto Fantasy etc.. with one universal ID.

http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/breakout-gaming-preview/

http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/gaming-platform/




Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Skatebird on October 17, 2014, 10:50:39 PM
Its really easy to understand !!! Can we know the fuckin price before investing money ?lolllllll

do you expect us to give you a price for the 4.5 million coins? If so, we would be setting our own market-cap. Companies NEVER choose their own valuations, markets do.

or do you just want a price, with an uncapped number of coins?  If so, I understand why this would would make you feel better.. but its exactly the same. either price or quantity can be fixed , not both. if you want both, i would suggest you wait to buy in the secondary market.


As serious devs, YES you should be able to give us approx what amount of money you need to build the project you want to do. Its not an open buffet here. You are talking like if you set a price, you will automatically choose market cap for ever. The market cap will be decided by the free market when trade will be opened. If you dont know how to give early investors a chance to have positive investment, just copy/paste Bitswift and you will look like a genious :)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 17, 2014, 10:54:06 PM
Its really easy to understand !!! Can we know the fuckin price before investing money ?lolllllll

do you expect us to give you a price for the 4.5 million coins? If so, we would be setting our own market-cap. Companies NEVER choose their own valuations, markets do.

or do you just want a price, with an uncapped number of coins?  If so, I understand why this would would make you feel better.. but its exactly the same. either price or quantity can be fixed , not both. if you want both, i would suggest you wait to buy in the secondary market.


As serious devs, YES you should be able to give us approx what amount of money you need to build the project you want to do. Its not an open buffet here. You are talking like if you set a price, you will automatically choose market cap for ever. The market cap will be decided by the free market when trade will be opened. If you dont know how to give early investors a chance to have positive investment, just copy/paste Bitswift and you will look like a genious :)

yes an approx amount of money is indeed needed, this is not the same as having an actual price in the ico.

im not sure.. can op answer this? i would guess around 8000btc maybe, will the official op  give a number?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 18, 2014, 01:23:16 AM
You start dumping. And continue dumping. And continue dumping, as the price dives. You dump until it goes to 500, not just because you dump but because people panic sell. At 500, you start buying. And price goes back up. Rinse and repeat.

what is your average selling price on the way down and what is your average buying price on the way back up? this is the only thing that determines alpha in this simple strategy. take a look at bottoms or lows at any free market. what do you notice?    

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/613801/Screenshot%202014-10-16%2022.55.08.png

notice the volume spikes at the lows? this brings the vwap down on the way down and up on the way up.  prices move towards liquidity, not away from it. prices bottom when selling stops, the buyers at lows are not overwhelming, yet the snap back is so violent, simply due of lack of sellers. there is where liquidity in reality kills the backtested alpha.

this strategy has no alpha for the big player, maybe there are weak hands that capitulate at tops and bottoms, and this strategy works for a mid size player, by making an aggressive sell to start an avalanche of stops. the big player has better alpha providing heavy liquidly on both sides, and given that the gaming company wants to retain its players, and players don't like to be exposed to extreme volatility, i would say the alpha is in providing liquidity, rather then starting a panic.

Jay, I know you are fully aware of the term "capitulation". You can provoke that daily or even more frequently if you want to. That's where the scoop comes. And you can also control the rebound. You can control it both ways and determine tops and bottoms.

As for the price being stable, I don't know if that's even desirable or attractive to cryptonites... where are they going to make money to justify their investment if the price remains stable?  

Barabbas. Our mission is to promote the gaming platforms once the coins are released.  We expect to see a slow continual increase in the price of the coin as the gaming site gains more traction and adds more participants to the whole project thus requiring more coins to supply more players. Manipulating the coin value for short term gain would be counterintuitive to producing long term profits on our multiple gaming platforms. You can see the project has been thought out well.  In the long run the combined gaming incomes will far exceed income made on the coins.  As we become more successful we will add more applications for others to participate.  ie sports book, backgammon,bingo.  This will in turn increase the demand on the coin once again driving the coin price up.  I believe Bergstake or not the ICO will be the lowest price you will ever see for BRO coin.  Please analyze my prediction and respond.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 18, 2014, 03:16:43 AM
Good luck with the launch of BRO. I'm guessing it'll do well. When does mining begin?

ICO will end on November 18th and mining should start soon after.




Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 18, 2014, 04:01:10 AM
Ouch!

http://cointelegraph.com/news/112744/inventor-of-bitcoin-sues-newsweek (http://cointelegraph.com/news/112744/inventor-of-bitcoin-sues-newsweek)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: illodin on October 18, 2014, 04:05:27 AM
Regarding the unlimited ICO - if you'd like to invest 1 BTC, but don't know what to do because it's unlimited. Hedge your bets and use 0.5 BTC in the ICO, and 0.5 BTC to buy from the exchanges after the ICO. Problem solved?

Great suggestion!

not

in general, uncapped ico does NOT imply a lower price in the secondary market. if it did, then none should invest in the ico and everyone should wait for the secondary market.

in our case its a bit different because in-fact ico coins are more valuable then secondary market coins due to to expected-value of the bergstake.  so in our case, the price of  the ico coins will be higher then the expected price of the secondary market coins. However, the expected-value of the ico coins is higher then the expected-value of secondary market coins.

expected-price(ico coins) = expected-price(secondary market coins) + [ ev(future bergstake coins) discounted for time]

edit:
piece of personal advise i once heard: "one should not invest because of expected returns. one should only invest with risk capital if and only if this risk capital had been put aside "BEFORE", the opportunity presented itself".

this is not early days of bitcoin, this is a serious project with real long term commitments and implications. expect coin to be priced at value. the days of ordering pizza with 10,000 bitcoin are just biblical stories from yesteryears.

Markets aren't perfect, they can't see the future, so they can't estimate the valuation of ICO and non-ICO coins perfectly. They could over-value ICO, or over-value the coins that miners are selling. You can't know which way it'll go, so investing 50/50 will be less risky and generally better for an individual investor. And even if the markets would value ICO and non-ICO perfectly, it would be exactly the same EV for someone whatever he does, DUCY? :)  Obviously it won't be better for you, but everyone should do what's best for them.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: drkman on October 18, 2014, 08:50:10 AM
Its really easy to understand !!! Can we know the fuckin price before investing money ?lolllllll

do you expect us to give you a price for the 4.5 million coins? If so, we would be setting our own market-cap. Companies NEVER choose their own valuations, markets do.

or do you just want a price, with an uncapped number of coins?  If so, I understand why this would would make you feel better.. but its exactly the same. either price or quantity can be fixed , not both. if you want both, i would suggest you wait to buy in the secondary market.

Think of it like a funding round.  The breakout coin originators are like the series A round of funding and the ICO for those that read this thread should be the B round of funding.

But you guys are just skipping the B, C,  and IPO rounds and going straight to the post IPO round all without giving investors a chance to even see what the price stabilizes at so investors are going in completely blind.  How much actual money has been spent to date on launching Breakout Gaming?  What is the current company valuation?  We need to know these things.

You need to leave room for this round of investors to profit just like yourselves.  You need to set the price and set it low (cap the ICO or double the coins we get by eliminating the 7 million in BRO giveaways) where you're pretty positive it will grow with the games up and running.  This should be the B round, not the post IPO round.  

As it currently stands, you are asking for people to blindly send money without knowing whether they paid 100 SATS per BRO or 1,000,000 SATS per BRO.  And that's just kinda wrong......and greedy too.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: btcsnippers on October 18, 2014, 12:06:47 PM
Its really easy to understand !!! Can we know the fuckin price before investing money ?lolllllll

do you expect us to give you a price for the 4.5 million coins? If so, we would be setting our own market-cap. Companies NEVER choose their own valuations, markets do.

or do you just want a price, with an uncapped number of coins?  If so, I understand why this would would make you feel better.. but its exactly the same. either price or quantity can be fixed , not both. if you want both, i would suggest you wait to buy in the secondary market.

Think of it like a funding round.  The breakout coin originators are like the series A round of funding and the ICO for those that read this thread should be the B round of funding.

But you guys are just skipping the B, C,  and IPO rounds and going straight to the post IPO round all without giving investors a chance to even see what the price stabilizes at so investors are going in completely blind.  How much actual money has been spent to date on launching Breakout Gaming?  What is the current company valuation?  We need to know these things.

You need to leave room for this round of investors to profit just like yourselves.  You need to set the price and set it low (cap the ICO or double the coins we get by eliminating the 7 million in BRO giveaways) where you're pretty positive it will grow with the games up and running.  This should be the B round, not the post IPO round.  

As it currently stands, you are asking for people to blindly send money without knowing whether they paid 100 SATS per BRO or 1,000,000 SATS per BRO.  And that's just kinda wrong......and greedy too.

+1

U also run the risk of having no buyers left when the market opens just coins beeing given away.



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Skatebird on October 18, 2014, 12:21:14 PM
Its really easy to understand !!! Can we know the fuckin price before investing money ?lolllllll

do you expect us to give you a price for the 4.5 million coins? If so, we would be setting our own market-cap. Companies NEVER choose their own valuations, markets do.

or do you just want a price, with an uncapped number of coins?  If so, I understand why this would would make you feel better.. but its exactly the same. either price or quantity can be fixed , not both. if you want both, i would suggest you wait to buy in the secondary market.

Think of it like a funding round.  The breakout coin originators are like the series A round of funding and the ICO for those that read this thread should be the B round of funding.

But you guys are just skipping the B, C,  and IPO rounds and going straight to the post IPO round all without giving investors a chance to even see what the price stabilizes at so investors are going in completely blind.  How much actual money has been spent to date on launching Breakout Gaming?  What is the current company valuation?  We need to know these things.

You need to leave room for this round of investors to profit just like yourselves.  You need to set the price and set it low (cap the ICO or double the coins we get by eliminating the 7 million in BRO giveaways) where you're pretty positive it will grow with the games up and running.  This should be the B round, not the post IPO round. 

As it currently stands, you are asking for people to blindly send money without knowing whether they paid 100 SATS per BRO or 1,000,000 SATS per BRO.  And that's just kinda wrong......and greedy too.

+1

U also run the risk of having no buyers left when the market opens just coins beeing given away.



Im tryin to explain that to devs since 2 days but they dont seem able to understand our point of view. In real life, if you want investors, you NEED to make a real valuation of you compagny/project and ask amount of money that justify a part of the project. Here, they want maximum of btc without saying how much they really need and dont care if investors get craiged or not.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: gwada971 on October 18, 2014, 01:17:09 PM
Preview a DEMO of our digital hub and games.  When launched, players will have access to the exchange, Poker, Fantasy Sports, Crypto Fantasy etc.. with one universal ID.

http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/breakout-gaming-preview/

http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/gaming-platform/




Don't know who is coding the website, but get great talent !


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 18, 2014, 02:13:42 PM
Preview a DEMO of our digital hub and games.  When launched, players will have access to the exchange, Poker, Fantasy Sports, Crypto Fantasy etc.. with one universal ID.

http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/breakout-gaming-preview/

http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/gaming-platform/




Don't know who is coding the website, but get great talent !

Thanks very much!
We are very proud to have these guys onboard  :D

 Bonnerbellew.com (http://Bonnerbellew.com)

 sodaandlime.com (http://sodaandlime.com)

 jollyscience.com (http://jollyscience.com)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 18, 2014, 03:52:30 PM
PSA

Check out Circle.com (http://Circle.com) when you have a chance.  I have not been using Coinbase ever since I found out about Circle...


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 18, 2014, 06:43:42 PM
Think of it like a funding round.  The breakout coin originators are like the series A round of funding and the ICO for those that read this thread should be the B round of funding.

But you guys are just skipping the B, C,  and IPO rounds and going straight to the post IPO round all without giving investors a chance to even see what the price stabilizes at so investors are going in completely blind.  How much actual money has been spent to date on launching Breakout Gaming?  What is the current company valuation?  We need to know these things.


these coin crowd-sales are a new paradigm. im sure money was spent on launching breakout gaming, and are now selling a genesis coin product. If you  still want to compare, the ico is more like the ipo stage.. I dont know how you can compare it to post ipo?

Quote
You need to leave room for this round of investors to profit just like yourselves.  You need to set the price and set it low (cap the ICO or double the coins we get by eliminating the 7 million in BRO giveaways) where you're pretty positive it will grow with the games up and running.  This should be the B round, not the post IPO round.  
how would doubling the coins for the ico make any difference to your logic? eliminating the giveaways, is a very bad idea for the long term prospects of breakout coin. coins are successful with wider distributions. if you think widely distributing free coins are a negative for a coins survival, you have not been paying attention.

Quote
As it currently stands, you are asking for people to blindly send money without knowing whether they paid 100 SATS per BRO or 1,000,000 SATS per BRO.  And that's just kinda wrong......and greedy too.
but your ok with it, if we double the number of ico coins? even without knowing the price?

I think once we all know how many BTCs OP is hoping to raise, we can all get some insight into price and market-cap.  


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 18, 2014, 09:47:17 PM
Food for thought

http://www.coindesk.com/marc-andreessen-long-bitcoin-short-apple-pay/


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: tljenson on October 18, 2014, 10:40:54 PM
PSA

Check out Circle.com (http://Circle.com) when you have a chance.  I have not been using Coinbase ever since I found out about Circle...

Same here Circle is great, in my opinion the best way to buy BTC.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: tljenson on October 18, 2014, 10:45:50 PM
I'm curious to know if Blockchain bloat is going to be an issue with this coin. I've played around with several CryptoNote coins of, and they can be take up a lot more space than other coins.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Kuriso on October 18, 2014, 11:18:01 PM
Couple questions.  May have been asked but I hadn't seen them.  Sorry if they are repeats.

Who is handling the ICO?  Is it internal or an exchange?

When will the actual coin, wallet, and gaming platform be ready?

Which cryptonote coin did you clone?  Are you familiar with some of the difference between coins like BBR and XMR?  Will code be opensource?  

--- Edit ---

Just seen this posted above.  It answers one of the questions.

"When launched, players will have access to the exchange, Poker, Fantasy Sports, Crypto Fantasy etc.. with one universal ID."


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 18, 2014, 11:20:33 PM
I'm curious to know if Blockchain bloat is going to be an issue with this coin. I've played around with several CryptoNote coins of, and they can be take up a lot more space than other coins.
Im just about ready to scrap CryptoNote and go with typical blockchain. will put it to a vote, but so far there is no love for cn.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 18, 2014, 11:27:28 PM
Couple questions.  May have been asked but I hadn't seen them.  Sorry if they are repeats.

Who is handling the ICO?  Is it internal or an exchange?
internal, javascript, everything stored on bitcoin blokcchain, code currently being audited, very similar process like ethereum.

Quote
When will the actual coin, wallet, and gaming platform be ready?
plan is to launch poker and coin at same time. shooting for 30 days post ico.

Quote
Which cryptonote coin did you clone?  Are you familiar with some of the difference between coins like BBR and XMR?  Will code be opensource? 
yes open-source at launch.

cloned cryptonote directly. yes, familiar with Boolberry and Monero.

also have a non cryptonote , x13 implementation as backup, due to recent cryptonote revelations.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Kuriso on October 18, 2014, 11:28:20 PM
I'm curious to know if Blockchain bloat is going to be an issue with this coin. I've played around with several CryptoNote coins of, and they can be take up a lot more space than other coins.
Im just about ready to scrap CryptoNote and go with typical blockchain. will put it to a vote, but so far there is no love for cn.

Not all exchanges are compatible with CN coins.  That could be one advantage to going with a typical bitcoin based blockchain.  The other exchanges will come online eventually so in the long term scheme of things, it may not matter.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Kuriso on October 18, 2014, 11:33:55 PM
Couple questions.  May have been asked but I hadn't seen them.  Sorry if they are repeats.

Who is handling the ICO?  Is it internal or an exchange?
internal, javascript, everything stored on bitcoin blokcchain, code currently being audited, very similar process like ethereum.

Quote
When will the actual coin, wallet, and gaming platform be ready?
plan is to launch poker and coin at same time. shooting for 30 days post ico.

Quote
Which cryptonote coin did you clone?  Are you familiar with some of the difference between coins like BBR and XMR?  Will code be opensource? 
yes open-source at launch.

cloned cryptonote directly. yes, familiar with Boolberry and Monero.

also have a non cryptonote , x13 implementation as backup, due to recent cryptonote revelations.

Thanks for the info.

Cloning BBR could of been a better option.  They are faster, less bloat, and have address alias.  If players wanted to send funds from one another, using an alias would be so much nicer.  I guess you could pull some of these changes though.

Wallet address aliasing: any wallet can be linked with symbolic name via special type extra record in coinbase. Block chain will control registered names uniqueness

Other features:
Unlinkable outputs ensures the user's anonymity is not broken due to zero mixin usage.
Transaction identification by prefix allows Boolberry to cut ring signatures from block chain reducing block chain size by 60-90%, depending on mixin usage.
Removed Dust from block reward to reduce block chain size even more.
New block chain based PoW hash provides faster synchronization with network and immunity from DoS attacks.
Network Alerts allow developers to broadcast messages about critical updates or other important events to the network
Donation-based crowd-funding: Boolberry has an open and transparent model of project financing with a maximum of 1% of mined coins reserved for project development. The actual rate is controlled by network participants (miners) using votes. Boolberry gives a fixed percentage to the CryptoNote founders.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 18, 2014, 11:38:17 PM
Couple questions.  May have been asked but I hadn't seen them.  Sorry if they are repeats.

Who is handling the ICO?  Is it internal or an exchange?
internal, javascript, everything stored on bitcoin blokcchain, code currently being audited, very similar process like ethereum.

Quote
When will the actual coin, wallet, and gaming platform be ready?
plan is to launch poker and coin at same time. shooting for 30 days post ico.

Quote
Which cryptonote coin did you clone?  Are you familiar with some of the difference between coins like BBR and XMR?  Will code be opensource? 
yes open-source at launch.

cloned cryptonote directly. yes, familiar with Boolberry and Monero.

also have a non cryptonote , x13 implementation as backup, due to recent cryptonote revelations.

Thanks for the info.

Cloning BBR could of been a better option.  They are faster, less bloat, and have address alias.  If players wanted to send funds from one another, using an alias would be so much nicer.  I guess you could pull some of these changes though.

Wallet address aliasing: any wallet can be linked with symbolic name via special type extra record in coinbase. Block chain will control registered names uniqueness

Other features:
Unlinkable outputs ensures the user's anonymity is not broken due to zero mixin usage.
Transaction identification by prefix allows Boolberry to cut ring signatures from block chain reducing block chain size by 60-90%, depending on mixin usage.
Removed Dust from block reward to reduce block chain size even more.
New block chain based PoW hash provides faster synchronization with network and immunity from DoS attacks.
Network Alerts allow developers to broadcast messages about critical updates or other important events to the network
Donation-based crowd-funding: Boolberry has an open and transparent model of project financing with a maximum of 1% of mined coins reserved for project development. The actual rate is controlled by network participants (miners) using votes. Boolberry gives a fixed percentage to the CryptoNote founders.

thats the thing: who are the CryptoNote founders? and why so anonymous?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutCoin on October 19, 2014, 01:20:37 AM
We are looking to raise from 7 to 15 thousand bitcoins, the minimum amount we would need for the project would be 1000 bitcoins.

Due to various factors, Breakoutcoin is reconsidering the use of CryptoNote as its core. A Bitcoin core with x13 and Stealth features is the alternative. Both cores are in development and managed by @jaybny.

We strive to provide the most secure coin and transparent development process.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jibble on October 19, 2014, 01:31:13 AM
We are looking to raise from 7 to 15 thousand bitcoins, the minimum amount we would need for the project would be 1000 bitcoins.

Due to various factors, Breakoutcoin is reconsidering the use of CryptoNote as its core. A Bitcoin core with x13 and Stealth features is the alternative. Both cores are in development and managed by @jaybny.

We strive to provide the most secure coin and transparent development process.

will the all valuable and all amazing berg stake still be in the mix?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 19, 2014, 01:43:22 AM
We are looking to raise from 7 to 15 thousand bitcoins, the minimum amount we would need for the project would be 1000 bitcoins.

Due to various factors, Breakoutcoin is reconsidering the use of CryptoNote as its core. A Bitcoin core with x13 and Stealth features is the alternative. Both cores are in development and managed by @jaybny.

We strive to provide the most secure coin and transparent development process.

will the all valuable and all amazing berg stake still be in the mix?

bergstake implementation is independent of coin core choice.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jibble on October 19, 2014, 01:48:41 AM
We are looking to raise from 7 to 15 thousand bitcoins, the minimum amount we would need for the project would be 1000 bitcoins.

Due to various factors, Breakoutcoin is reconsidering the use of CryptoNote as its core. A Bitcoin core with x13 and Stealth features is the alternative. Both cores are in development and managed by @jaybny.

We strive to provide the most secure coin and transparent development process.

will the all valuable and all amazing berg stake still be in the mix?

bergstake implementation is independent of coin core choice.

ok that's cool was just wondering cos wasn't sure. sounded like something cool that had been coded for CN coins in particular.

Also Bergstake and mining with pools

If i mine fresh breakout coins in a mining pool, who then receives the bergstake? the pool operator? because i thought it was attached to the address that mines it, and is not and then not transfered like breakout coin. so wouldn't the pool owners get the bergstake?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 19, 2014, 02:05:01 AM
We are looking to raise from 7 to 15 thousand bitcoins, the minimum amount we would need for the project would be 1000 bitcoins.

Due to various factors, Breakoutcoin is reconsidering the use of CryptoNote as its core. A Bitcoin core with x13 and Stealth features is the alternative. Both cores are in development and managed by @jaybny.

We strive to provide the most secure coin and transparent development process.

will the all valuable and all amazing berg stake still be in the mix?

bergstake implementation is independent of coin core choice.

ok that's cool was just wondering cos wasn't sure. sounded like something cool that had been coded for CN coins in particular.

Also Bergstake and mining with pools

If i mine fresh breakout coins in a mining pool, who then receives the bergstake? the pool operator? because i thought it was attached to the address that mines it, and is not and then not transfered like breakout coin. so wouldn't the pool owners get the bergstake?
Dev, I have just one question. If I will mine on pool during PoW, how the pool will send me Bergstakes?

Current pool technology will not enable this. So the pool operator will keep all the Bergstake, and to compensate, they will have to distribute all or most of the BRO to miners. This is why we are developing a new kind of pool, where when a block is found, all miners will be entered into the coinbase transaction directly. So there will be 100s of outputs. This "feature" will keep pools smaller and less centralized.



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Kuriso on October 19, 2014, 03:00:07 AM
We are looking to raise from 7 to 15 thousand bitcoins, the minimum amount we would need for the project would be 1000 bitcoins.

Due to various factors, Breakoutcoin is reconsidering the use of CryptoNote as its core. A Bitcoin core with x13 and Stealth features is the alternative. Both cores are in development and managed by @jaybny.

We strive to provide the most secure coin and transparent development process.

WOW! A minimum of 7,000 btc for 4.5 million coins.  That's roughly $2,800,000.00 at current prices.  If we reach 7000 bitcoin, that makes the 4.5 million coins 150,000+/- sats a piece.

We have 7 million coins being mined over 2 years, 2 million coins annually from PoB and 7 million BRO will be given away for free through incentive programs.  All this eventually leading to the max of 200 million coins.

Roughly 14,880 coins will be minted each day if you include PoW and PoB which works out to just over 22 bitcoins a day needed to maintain 150ksat so investors do no lose money on the ICO.

Edit: See the post below.  PoW and PoB happen at 2 different times.

PoW Phase: 2 years, 7 million coins, ~19.98 BRO block reward
PoB  Phase: perpetual, 2 million coins annually ~11.42 BRO block reward
200 million+ total coins
14 million coin Pre-Mine (< 7%) <<< 14 million coins premined but the ICO is for 4.5 million and 7 million given away.  Where is the other 2.5 million BRO???

So all this leads me to the following questions.  Is there a minimum of bitcoins needed to ensure the project continues?  If you only raise 500, 800, 1000, 2000, or anything under 7000btc, will the project continue?

Edit: "the minimum amount we would need for the project would be 1000 bitcoins."  I over looked that some how

--- EDIT ---

Just seen where the other 2.5 million bro are. "12% - 2.5 million – Developers, Marketing, Pros, Bounties, Ops"  LOL so we are paying for ICO AND you get free coins to pay "Developers, Marketing, Pros, Bounties, Ops".  What is the ICO for?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Kuriso on October 19, 2014, 04:43:28 AM
Roughly 14,880 coins will be minted each day if you include PoW and PoB which works out to just over 22 bitcoins a day needed to maintain 150ksat so investors do no lose money on the ICO.

pre-mine: 14 million   (2.5 dev, 4.5 ico, 7 giveaways)

year1 - 3.5 million pow   (9589 per day)

year2 -3.5 million pow (9589 per day)

year3 - 2 million pob (5480 per day)

year4 - 2 million pob (5480 per day)

lets get the facts right first  


Ok so PoB doesn't start until the 3rd year?  I know PoB runs perpetually after PoW ends but does it not generate coins from the start?  I guess I had it right in an earlier post then.  I had thought it was that way but after re-looking at some of the information I thought I had originally made a mistake.

9589 BRO per day at 150k sat is a little over 14 bitcoins a day needed to maintain a break-even price for investors IF 7,000 bitcoins are raised during the ICO.

I made a mistake because I thought PoB would still be happening during PoW.


2.5 million coins for the 'dev' is equal to 3759 bitcoins if 7000 bitcoins are raised during the ICO  Don't you think thats a bit much?  Your asking for a big ICO plus you're keeping 2.5 million coins to pay for things that the ICO should be paying for.  Seems a bit excessive.



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Skatebird on October 19, 2014, 05:02:05 AM
Roughly 14,880 coins will be minted each day if you include PoW and PoB which works out to just over 22 bitcoins a day needed to maintain 150ksat so investors do no lose money on the ICO.

pre-mine: 14 million   (2.5 dev, 4.5 ico, 7 giveaways)

year1 - 3.5 million pow   (9589 per day)

year2 -3.5 million pow (9589 per day)

year3 - 2 million pob (5480 per day)

year4 - 2 million pob (5480 per day)

lets get the facts right first 

Ok so PoB doesn't start until the 3rd year?  I know PoB runs perpetually after PoW ends but does it not generate coins from the start?  I guess I had it right in an earlier post then.  I had thought it was that way but after re-looking at some of the information I thought I had originally made a mistake.

9589 BRO per day at 150k sat is a little over 14 bitcoins a day needed to maintain a break-even price for investors IF 7,000 bitcoins are raised during the ICO.

I made a mistake because I thought PoB would still be happening during PoW.


2.5 million coins for the 'dev' is equal to 3759 bitcoins if 7000 bitcoins are raised during the ICO  Don't you think thats a bit much?  Your asking for a big ICO plus you're keeping 2.5 million coins to pay for things that the ICO should be paying for.  Seems a bit excessive.



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Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 19, 2014, 05:06:39 AM
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Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 19, 2014, 05:12:35 AM
2.5 million coins for the 'dev' is equal to 3759 bitcoins if 7000 bitcoins are raised during the ICO. Don't you think thats a bit much?  Your asking for a big ICO plus you're keeping 2.5 million coins to pay for things that the ICO should be paying for.  Seems a bit excessive.

what are you suggesting? more ico coins? and what if they only raise 1000? thats 555 btc for dev. they prob spent more then that on project already! 

more ico coins if more btc raised? never seen a structure like that...


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Kuriso on October 19, 2014, 05:27:55 AM
2.5 million coins for the 'dev' is equal to 3759 bitcoins if 7000 bitcoins are raised during the ICO. Don't you think thats a bit much?  Your asking for a big ICO plus you're keeping 2.5 million coins to pay for things that the ICO should be paying for.  Seems a bit excessive.

what are you suggesting? more ico coins? and what if they only raise 1000? thats 555 btc for dev. they prob spent more then that on project already! 

more ico coins if more btc raised? never seen a structure like that...

I know that you guys will have things that need to be paid for but what are they?  What are the costs?  Do you know?  If you look at Ether's uncapped ICO and their plans for the coin, they had a budget.  There was a plan for the funds and that helped show investors how funds were used.

I'm ok with expenses being paid and devs making some money but I am not ok with get rich quick deals where investors are left hanging.  I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS A SCAM OR A GET RICH QUICK DEAL but scams are a dime a dozen on here.  So many ICOs have been failures.  Devs make all the money and investors are left with nothing.  I think some of these ICOs are why the alt-coin markets are really hurting right now.  There's been a huge amount of bitcoin sucked out of the markets from these scams.  I know that most of the exchanges have decided to no longer allow devs to keep coins plus raise ICO funds.  All coins go to the ICO.  Honestly, I think that's a fairer deal in most cases.

Wanting at least a 7,000btc ICO and keeping 2.5 million coins looks bad.  It looks really excessive.  This is my opinion and some may agree and others may not.

Here's a quick suggestion for the 2.5 million coins.  Come up with a scale that will potentially use the 2.5 million to increase the 4.5 million ICO coins if more funds are raised.

Example:
If only 500 btc is raised, you keep all 2.5 million to help cover other cost.
If 500-1000 btc is raised, 15% of the 2.5 million is added to the 4.5 million coins
If 1000-2000 btc is raised, 30% of the 2.5 million is added to the 4.5 million coins
and so on... 

These numbers are just ideas but something like this gives investors a reason to invest more and helps keep the average cost per coin down so that there is a ROI for your investors.  Maybe others can chime in and offer some opinions/suggestions.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Kuriso on October 19, 2014, 05:37:07 AM
What happens if 1000 bitcoins are not raised?  Will everyone be refunded?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Kuriso on October 19, 2014, 06:27:12 AM
Could use some percentages to split the coins.

1000 - 15,000 bitcoins raised
0 - 100% of the 2.5 million being split up to ICO holders

If 1875btc raised during the ICO, thats 1/8 of the 2.5 million coins.
If 3750btc raised during the ICO, thats 1/4 of the 2.5 million coins.
If 7500btc raised during the ICO, thats 1/2 of the 2.5 million coins.
etc...

Using a scale like this allows for a more precise number of coins being split by the exact amount of bitcoin raised.


2.5 million coins for the 'dev' is equal to 3759 bitcoins if 7000 bitcoins are raised during the ICO. Don't you think thats a bit much?  Your asking for a big ICO plus you're keeping 2.5 million coins to pay for things that the ICO should be paying for.  Seems a bit excessive.

what are you suggesting? more ico coins? and what if they only raise 1000? thats 555 btc for dev. they prob spent more then that on project already! 

more ico coins if more btc raised? never seen a structure like that...

"and what if they only raise 1000? thats 555 btc for dev."  True the initial holdings would only be worth 555 btc if 1000btc are raised during the ICO but if the product is good and adoption happens, those 2.5 million coins could easily become worth way more.  Kind of forces the devs to stay invested and make their holdings increase in value.

In 2 years, BRO will have about 21 million coins in circulation.  That's equal to Peercoin and Stealthcoin right now.  Both have 21 million coins.  One is ranked 7th in market cap, the other is ranked 60th.  One is worth .00265btc per coin, the other is worth 0.00006045btc per coin.  Yes I know they are different from BRO but a lot can happen between now and 2 years from now.  If BRO sees the adoption, it could over take Peercoin.  If not, it will end up much lower.  Devs and investors must be devoted in seeing the coin succeed and increasing the value of their holdings.



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: barabbas on October 19, 2014, 06:31:24 AM
You start dumping. And continue dumping. And continue dumping, as the price dives. You dump until it goes to 500, not just because you dump but because people panic sell. At 500, you start buying. And price goes back up. Rinse and repeat.

what is your average selling price on the way down and what is your average buying price on the way back up? this is the only thing that determines alpha in this simple strategy. take a look at bottoms or lows at any free market. what do you notice?    

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/613801/Screenshot%202014-10-16%2022.55.08.png

notice the volume spikes at the lows? this brings the vwap down on the way down and up on the way up.  prices move towards liquidity, not away from it. prices bottom when selling stops, the buyers at lows are not overwhelming, yet the snap back is so violent, simply due of lack of sellers. there is where liquidity in reality kills the backtested alpha.

this strategy has no alpha for the big player, maybe there are weak hands that capitulate at tops and bottoms, and this strategy works for a mid size player, by making an aggressive sell to start an avalanche of stops. the big player has better alpha providing heavy liquidly on both sides, and given that the gaming company wants to retain its players, and players don't like to be exposed to extreme volatility, i would say the alpha is in providing liquidity, rather then starting a panic.

Jay, I know you are fully aware of the term "capitulation". You can provoke that daily or even more frequently if you want to. That's where the scoop comes. And you can also control the rebound. You can control it both ways and determine tops and bottoms.

As for the price being stable, I don't know if that's even desirable or attractive to cryptonites... where are they going to make money to justify their investment if the price remains stable?  

Barabbas. Our mission is to promote the gaming platforms once the coins are released.  We expect to see a slow continual increase in the price of the coin as the gaming site gains more traction and adds more participants to the whole project thus requiring more coins to supply more players. Manipulating the coin value for short term gain would be counterintuitive to producing long term profits on our multiple gaming platforms. You can see the project has been thought out well.  In the long run the combined gaming incomes will far exceed income made on the coins.  As we become more successful we will add more applications for others to participate.  ie sports book, backgammon,bingo.  This will in turn increase the demand on the coin once again driving the coin price up.  I believe Bergstake or not the ICO will be the lowest price you will ever see for BRO coin.  Please analyze my prediction and respond.


Well Randy I have to say, in light of the latest examination and in contrast with the expectations that you guys have, that I believe you are setting yourselves up for a huge disappointment.

There are a couple of things that are not exactly reassuring on the technical side of things and that goes against your statement of the project as being "well thought of". That at this stage in the game you will change to plan B regarding the mining platform and that the bloating of the blockchain hasn't been thoroughly examined long, long before this time, is, like I said, the contrary to reassuring. And, consequently, makes one thing what other aspects have not been well thought of. The other technical thing that remains an enigma is, probably, even more important: So far we only have a few images, pretty conventional and quite unimpressive as to what the aspect of the platform will be. We don't know at all how that will work and, like I said, it isn't precisely impressive: If you go into any casino en Earth these days, you can see and play poker and other games on a platform much more impressive than that, with video, etc. This is like going to the times of Pac-Man, a decade behind. Not having a working beta that people can actually experience, is, in my view, and insuperable flaw in your ICO launching.

Now, the recent projections that I have read here are a set up for disappointment... to a certain extent. To begin with, Breakout Gamis has posted that the minimal ICO money required is 1,000 BTC, which at current price is 380,000 dollars. On the pother hand, he expects between 10 and 15 times that much... the later putting BRO's launch in the same league of Ethereum. I know it will be comparing apples to Oranges to a certain extent but only in relative terms. Number one, I believe that the Ethereum ICO as well as the constant ones coming into the market plus the "JL&&& ventures and assets including SuperNET have stretched the amount of BTC available in altcoin territory to the ;point that many worthwhile projects, some quite established, are already suffering greatly because of the scarcity of capital; number 2, realistically examined, BRO is just an idea, far from a reality -with less than 1,000 BTC in the ICO it won't even happen-. Admittedly a very good idea and well supported but with too many caveats, self made and circumstantially converging to take for granted a success at the level Breakout Gamins -and you- are predicting.

No, I can't agree with you on the price of the ICO being the lowest. It could be, but far from a sure thing. The whole thing can so easily turn into a debacle that it is quite risky, actually, given the many possible variables, specially on the vital technical side of the coin platform and the gaming platform.

I don't do predictions with so many variables, but I can easily see people originally interested taking their time to see if the interest becomes BTC-vested interest and losing either on the long way of that month-long ICO. Remember that many people that were enthusiastic about Ethereum already are lamenting having "bitten" in view of the long -and not guaranteed- wait ahead. A high percentage of "enthusiastic investors" a month ago will be willing and very happy if they could take their money back right now. The same way, I can see a very big disappointment in your expectations. No, I will not see parity BRO-dollar. Not on the ICO and maybe never down the line. I would need to see many more realities, practical, working realities, to be more hopeful.

And maybe for some the stumbling point will be the "open" ICO. It is absurd for it doesn't change anything... except that this is crypto world and an ample majority of people with some BTC available are not very investment-savvy, on one side and rather "peculiar" on another. Meaning that they have convinced themselves than a closed ICO is "greedy" and you simply will not convince them otherwise no matter how absurd than concoction is in reality, so it will be also a (minimal) factor going against your very optimistic predictions.

Finally, if your more optimistic predictions were to happen, the whole thing looks disproportionate and absurd, starting with the immediate compensation of $ 3 million or more to the developers, some of which, logically, would immediately dump. And following with a "distribution" 2-year period, via promotions and such, that would put on your hands a budget several times above what Caesar's Palace spends in promotion --those 7 million coins could be worth in excess of 10 million dollars if your optimistic predictions come to happen... much more, in fact, if the operation is successful and, like you expect, it has repercussion in the price of the coin. The "distribution" model, in itself, is quite preposterous for you actually are asking people invested in the COIN to pay for the promotion of the CASINO, without obtaining any ownership in it and only the vague hope that supporting the casino expansion will somehow augment the value of the coin. A very tall order, from where I am standing.

Those 7 million coins should be part of the ICO, in my opinion, as it should be a working platform that compares advantageously with what other online casinos already have. And even on that case, it would still be quite risky to assume that the launching, bergstaking, etc, will work flawlessly -or acceptably- from the get go.

So yes, it is a great idea. Many points in its favor. But, like I posted before, a lot of caveats also.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Rayban34 on October 19, 2014, 06:42:19 AM
I think you guys are missing the point with the expected ICO markup. If you look at their social media their Facebook page has 40,000 followers alone. Now if everyone from there were to invest, say 0.1btc (which isn't much for a good coin ICO) that would be 4000 btc. I think the true point we're all missing is the sheer amount of people these guys have placed trust and are following them "already".

In my opinion I'm going to have to be there at 12am on the dot to send my btc or I'm going to miss out on some of that exciting bergstake. I'm already saving up my zenminer cloud accumulation for the launch second of this coin. If I am thinking like this, chances are there are many, many more.

Good luck Devs, I think you will reach more than you expect :)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Kuriso on October 19, 2014, 07:13:26 AM
I think you guys are missing the point with the expected ICO markup. If you look at their social media their Facebook page has 40,000 followers alone. Now if everyone from there were to invest, say 0.1btc (which isn't much for a good coin ICO) that would be 4000 btc. I think the true point we're all missing is the sheer amount of people these guys have placed trust and are following them "already".

In my opinion I'm going to have to be there at 12am on the dot to send my btc or I'm going to miss out on some of that exciting bergstake. I'm already saving up my zenminer cloud accumulation for the launch second of this coin. If I am thinking like this, chances are there are many, many more.

Good luck Devs, I think you will reach more than you expect :)

I can sell you 50,000 facebook followers for a couple hundred dollars.  Where are those 40,000 followers?  They aren't here.  Its been a lot of the same people discussing things here.  You'd think the discussion would be a lot stronger with 40,000 followers.  It will be interesting to see just how busy the ICO gets when the countdown timer hits all 0's


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Rayban34 on October 19, 2014, 07:26:57 AM
I think you guys are missing the point with the expected ICO markup. If you look at their social media their Facebook page has 40,000 followers alone. Now if everyone from there were to invest, say 0.1btc (which isn't much for a good coin ICO) that would be 4000 btc. I think the true point we're all missing is the sheer amount of people these guys have placed trust and are following them "already".

In my opinion I'm going to have to be there at 12am on the dot to send my btc or I'm going to miss out on some of that exciting bergstake. I'm already saving up my zenminer cloud accumulation for the launch second of this coin. If I am thinking like this, chances are there are many, many more.

Good luck Devs, I think you will reach more than you expect :)

I can sell you 50,000 facebook followers for a couple hundred dollars.  Where are those 40,000 followers?  They aren't here.  Its been a lot of the same people discussing things here.  You'd think the discussion would be a lot stronger with 40,000 followers.  It will be interesting to see just how busy the ICO gets when the countdown timer hits all 0's

Sorry dude - That's a very negative take on it. Not everyone buys Facebook followers, and this forum isn't the be all and end all of crypto-talk. I watched this forum for months and months before I decided to sign up, I learned about bitcoin from various websites, blogs and news articles and there are certain crypto-currencies I've had my eye on before I knew this place existed.

You forget that what these guys are planning is a service - those 40,000 followers might be waiting for the service to start. Yes, they may have bought them but my half-glass full approach enables me to take calculated risks better than automatically dismissing a coin because it doesn't meet my standards (I have high standards btw).

E-sports is HUGE industry. Combining e-sports with cryptocurrency is a fantastic move IMO


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Groker on October 19, 2014, 07:58:19 AM
Miner only CPU?

What used mainer (name program)?

In solo mining can?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: btcsnippers on October 19, 2014, 08:13:31 AM
I think you guys are missing the point with the expected ICO markup. If you look at their social media their Facebook page has 40,000 followers alone. Now if everyone from there were to invest, say 0.1btc (which isn't much for a good coin ICO) that would be 4000 btc. I think the true point we're all missing is the sheer amount of people these guys have placed trust and are following them "already".

In my opinion I'm going to have to be there at 12am on the dot to send my btc or I'm going to miss out on some of that exciting bergstake. I'm already saving up my zenminer cloud accumulation for the launch second of this coin. If I am thinking like this, chances are there are many, many more.

Good luck Devs, I think you will reach more than you expect :)

I can sell you 50,000 facebook followers for a couple hundred dollars.  Where are those 40,000 followers?  They aren't here.  Its been a lot of the same people discussing things here.  You'd think the discussion would be a lot stronger with 40,000 followers.  It will be interesting to see just how busy the ICO gets when the countdown timer hits all 0's

Sorry dude - That's a very negative take on it. Not everyone buys Facebook followers, and this forum isn't the be all and end all of crypto-talk. I watched this forum for months and months before I decided to sign up, I learned about bitcoin from various websites, blogs and news articles and there are certain crypto-currencies I've had my eye on before I knew this place existed.

You forget that what these guys are planning is a service - those 40,000 followers might be waiting for the service to start. Yes, they may have bought them but my half-glass full approach enables me to take calculated risks better than automatically dismissing a coin because it doesn't meet my standards (I have high standards btw).

E-sports is HUGE industry. Combining e-sports with cryptocurrency is a fantastic move IMO

I agree i dont see that much traffic here , and if u think 40k followers has a 1-1 conversion rate u need help.
Those people If their not bought are there for the one thing that still attracks pretty much everyone in this world the promise of FREE MONEY.
The way the ICO is run will cost the Investors a huge chunck of cash , thats why there's a 10% bonus for getting in early because the later it gets the clearer what price u will end up paying will become and less people would invest.
I was drawn a little to the +10% now im going to wait till the very last second to see if theres any meat left on the bone.
Where can i see how many of the coins will be given away in the first month?




Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Rayban34 on October 19, 2014, 08:41:39 AM
I think you guys are missing the point with the expected ICO markup. If you look at their social media their Facebook page has 40,000 followers alone. Now if everyone from there were to invest, say 0.1btc (which isn't much for a good coin ICO) that would be 4000 btc. I think the true point we're all missing is the sheer amount of people these guys have placed trust and are following them "already".

In my opinion I'm going to have to be there at 12am on the dot to send my btc or I'm going to miss out on some of that exciting bergstake. I'm already saving up my zenminer cloud accumulation for the launch second of this coin. If I am thinking like this, chances are there are many, many more.

Good luck Devs, I think you will reach more than you expect :)

I can sell you 50,000 facebook followers for a couple hundred dollars.  Where are those 40,000 followers?  They aren't here.  Its been a lot of the same people discussing things here.  You'd think the discussion would be a lot stronger with 40,000 followers.  It will be interesting to see just how busy the ICO gets when the countdown timer hits all 0's

Sorry dude - That's a very negative take on it. Not everyone buys Facebook followers, and this forum isn't the be all and end all of crypto-talk. I watched this forum for months and months before I decided to sign up, I learned about bitcoin from various websites, blogs and news articles and there are certain crypto-currencies I've had my eye on before I knew this place existed.

You forget that what these guys are planning is a service - those 40,000 followers might be waiting for the service to start. Yes, they may have bought them but my half-glass full approach enables me to take calculated risks better than automatically dismissing a coin because it doesn't meet my standards (I have high standards btw).

E-sports is HUGE industry. Combining e-sports with cryptocurrency is a fantastic move IMO

I agree i dont see that much traffic here , and if u think 40k followers has a 1-1 conversion rate u need help.
Those people If their not bought are there for the one thing that still attracks pretty much everyone in this world the promise of FREE MONEY.
The way the ICO is run will cost the Investors a huge chunck of cash , thats why there's a 10% bonus for getting in early because the later it gets the clearer what price u will end up paying will become and less people would invest.
I was drawn a little to the +10% now im going to wait till the very last second to see if theres any meat left on the bone.
Where can i see how many of the coins will be given away in the first month?




Nothing is a 1-1 conversion rate. Not saying that, however all I'm saying is don't base the premise of a coin by the interest you see here. Remember, most of the chit-chat here is profit driven. Might be a little different for others that actually plan to use the platform. Coins are a community, not just an investment. :)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: btcsnippers on October 19, 2014, 09:24:17 AM
Imo , id rather read what the people have to say here good or bad then on facebook , alot of the posters here have invested in ICO/IPO before.
Some like Barabas write well and seem to know what their talking about.
I wonder how many of those facebook followers actually have over 100 usd in play in any crypto.
Its unproven tech your beeing asked to pay for as if it was up and running for a couple of months allready.
They dont show u spend to date, could be 150 usd could be 1.5 mln.
The 14mil coins premine besides the ICO  , thats not called dubbel dipping thats just completly taking all the sauce of the table and saying "what sauce?".

lets have a look at the 7% ,
its 7% of 200 million , the time it will take to get to 200 million  first 2 years 32.5 mil 4.5 ICO 14 mining 14 Premine .kinda looks like ur taking 50% premine on a 2 year mining period ,, but it gets better to get to your 200 cap will take about 84 years ,,so 86 years running time and u will only take 7% for 86 years but upfront please.This is offcourse next to the 150k sat *4.5 mln u hope to receive.
Greedy very greedy.





Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Rayban34 on October 19, 2014, 09:59:05 AM
Imo , id rather read what the people have to say here good or bad then on facebook , alot of the posters here have invested in ICO/IPO before.
Some like Barabas write well and seem to know what their talking about.
I wonder how many of those facebook followers actually have over 100 usd in play in any crypto.
Its unproven tech your beeing asked to pay for as if it was up and running for a couple of months allready.
They dont show u spend to date, could be 150 usd could be 1.5 mln.
The 14mil coins premine besides the ICO  , thats not called dubbel dipping thats just completly taking all the sauce of the table and saying "what sauce?".

lets have a look at the 7% ,
its 7% of 200 million , the time it will take to get to 200 million  first 2 years 32.5 mil 4.5 ICO 14 mining 14 Premine .kinda looks like ur taking 50% premine on a 2 year mining period ,, but it gets better to get to your 200 cap will take about 84 years ,,so 86 years running time and u will only take 7% for 86 years but upfront please.This is offcourse next to the 150k sat *4.5 mln u hope to receive.
Greedy very greedy.





...And in the same breath you've just made massive assumptions based on your preconceived fears. I'm not saying that you're completely risk-adverse but to make grandiose assertions before they have the btc to do anything with their idea is stupid. Why not wait and see?

Barabbas writes well but is to FUD as shit is to flies. Look over at the SEED coin thread - over 112 pages of FUD. lol

Hey, I may be wrong though, I'm not saying that what I say is the perfect truth. All I see is a brilliant idea with Snr forum level supporters writing well and answering well. :)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: btcsnippers on October 19, 2014, 10:40:20 AM
Imo , id rather read what the people have to say here good or bad then on facebook , alot of the posters here have invested in ICO/IPO before.
Some like Barabas write well and seem to know what their talking about.
I wonder how many of those facebook followers actually have over 100 usd in play in any crypto.
Its unproven tech your beeing asked to pay for as if it was up and running for a couple of months allready.
They dont show u spend to date, could be 150 usd could be 1.5 mln.
The 14mil coins premine besides the ICO  , thats not called dubbel dipping thats just completly taking all the sauce of the table and saying "what sauce?".

lets have a look at the 7% ,
its 7% of 200 million , the time it will take to get to 200 million  first 2 years 32.5 mil 4.5 ICO 14 mining 14 Premine .kinda looks like ur taking 50% premine on a 2 year mining period ,, but it gets better to get to your 200 cap will take about 84 years ,,so 86 years running time and u will only take 7% for 86 years but upfront please.This is offcourse next to the 150k sat *4.5 mln u hope to receive.
Greedy very greedy.





...And in the same breath you've just made massive assumptions based on your preconceived fears. I'm not saying that you're completely risk-adverse but to make grandiose assertions before they have the btc to do anything with their idea is stupid. Why not wait and see?

Barabbas writes well but is to FUD as shit is to flies. Look over at the SEED coin thread - over 112 pages of FUD. lol

Hey, I may be wrong though, I'm not saying that what I say is the perfect truth. All I see is a brilliant idea with Snr forum level supporters writing well and answering well. :)

massive assumptions  ? Really ? show me.
you just completly pass on the 7% and come back with this ?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: ciprian220 on October 19, 2014, 02:04:41 PM
on what exchanger ico release? i wan't buy some coins


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Kuriso on October 19, 2014, 05:32:05 PM
I think you guys are missing the point with the expected ICO markup. If you look at their social media their Facebook page has 40,000 followers alone. Now if everyone from there were to invest, say 0.1btc (which isn't much for a good coin ICO) that would be 4000 btc. I think the true point we're all missing is the sheer amount of people these guys have placed trust and are following them "already".

In my opinion I'm going to have to be there at 12am on the dot to send my btc or I'm going to miss out on some of that exciting bergstake. I'm already saving up my zenminer cloud accumulation for the launch second of this coin. If I am thinking like this, chances are there are many, many more.

Good luck Devs, I think you will reach more than you expect :)

I can sell you 50,000 facebook followers for a couple hundred dollars.  Where are those 40,000 followers?  They aren't here.  Its been a lot of the same people discussing things here.  You'd think the discussion would be a lot stronger with 40,000 followers.  It will be interesting to see just how busy the ICO gets when the countdown timer hits all 0's

Sorry dude - That's a very negative take on it. Not everyone buys Facebook followers, and this forum isn't the be all and end all of crypto-talk. I watched this forum for months and months before I decided to sign up, I learned about bitcoin from various websites, blogs and news articles and there are certain crypto-currencies I've had my eye on before I knew this place existed.

You forget that what these guys are planning is a service - those 40,000 followers might be waiting for the service to start. Yes, they may have bought them but my half-glass full approach enables me to take calculated risks better than automatically dismissing a coin because it doesn't meet my standards (I have high standards btw).

E-sports is HUGE industry. Combining e-sports with cryptocurrency is a fantastic move IMO

You said we were missing the point with the expected ICO and compared it to their 40,000 facebook followers spending .1btc.  Having a lot of facebook users doesn't necessarily mean they have that many people waiting to buy the ICO.  It doesn't mean that they bought them either but if there were 40,000 people holding bitcoin, waiting for this ICO, where are they?  I find it a bit weird to have that many followers and so little discussion or hype.  If those followers have bitcoin, there's a pretty good chance that many of them are familiar with this forum and many of those followers would be familiar with this thread.  There's probably less than 100 people that have posted anything in here.  Where's everyone else?  Where is all the hype, support, discussion?

BTW, the facebook page looks great.  You guys have some great graphic designers.




Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Kuriso on October 19, 2014, 05:43:21 PM
I really wish more people would voice their opinion about the ICO.  With the current expectations of funds to be raised and all the coins that are being kept for free, it does not look like a good deal for investors.  Basically 9.5 million coins are being kept for free and ICO investors are footing the bill for those coins

Here's something to consider.  Anyone that wants in the ICO will be able to buy in during the 30 day period.  They have 30 days to get a piece of 4.5million BRO.  After the ICO ends, who is left to buy?  Did a lot of people miss out?  Everyone had a chance to spend their bitcoins and get some coins.  Now the markets open.  Who are the next buyers?  Who is willing to pay more for BRO than what ICO investors paid?  If they really wanted BRO, they bought it during the ICO.  The buyers that are left are the ones waiting to buy BRO under the ICO value.  Do you expect to see a flood of buy support that will keep the price above the ICO cost?  Remember, eventually 9.5 million coins are waiting to hit the market plus 9500+ PoW coins each and every day.

If the ICO details are not changed and if devs keep 9.5 million coins (to be used for a number of different things), expect to get some cheap coins when the ICO ends.  Honestly I want this project to succeed and I want it to be a fair deal for both investors and developers.  Right now it is not a fair deal and several others agree with that.  Developers, please consider making some changes to the ICO.


You just wait for Ether to open up its markets.  We will be able to buy Ether for way under the ICO investment price.  You can mark these words and come back when/if they get their stuff launched.  Anyone that wanted Ether got it during the ICO.  No buyers were left out.  There are a lot of people that regret ever investing in it.  There will be a rush of people trying to get out and buyers will be cheap.

Look at BitSwift.  That ICO sold out really fast.  There were many investors that wanted in but missed out because it sold so fast.  These investors were willing to pay more than the ICO price to get a piece of the coin.  This drove the price way above the initial ICO cost.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Rayban34 on October 19, 2014, 06:06:29 PM
I think you guys are missing the point with the expected ICO markup. If you look at their social media their Facebook page has 40,000 followers alone. Now if everyone from there were to invest, say 0.1btc (which isn't much for a good coin ICO) that would be 4000 btc. I think the true point we're all missing is the sheer amount of people these guys have placed trust and are following them "already".

In my opinion I'm going to have to be there at 12am on the dot to send my btc or I'm going to miss out on some of that exciting bergstake. I'm already saving up my zenminer cloud accumulation for the launch second of this coin. If I am thinking like this, chances are there are many, many more.

Good luck Devs, I think you will reach more than you expect :)

I can sell you 50,000 facebook followers for a couple hundred dollars.  Where are those 40,000 followers?  They aren't here.  Its been a lot of the same people discussing things here.  You'd think the discussion would be a lot stronger with 40,000 followers.  It will be interesting to see just how busy the ICO gets when the countdown timer hits all 0's

Sorry dude - That's a very negative take on it. Not everyone buys Facebook followers, and this forum isn't the be all and end all of crypto-talk. I watched this forum for months and months before I decided to sign up, I learned about bitcoin from various websites, blogs and news articles and there are certain crypto-currencies I've had my eye on before I knew this place existed.

You forget that what these guys are planning is a service - those 40,000 followers might be waiting for the service to start. Yes, they may have bought them but my half-glass full approach enables me to take calculated risks better than automatically dismissing a coin because it doesn't meet my standards (I have high standards btw).

E-sports is HUGE industry. Combining e-sports with cryptocurrency is a fantastic move IMO

You said we were missing the point with the expected ICO and compared it to their 40,000 facebook followers spending .1btc.  Having a lot of facebook users doesn't necessarily mean they have that many people waiting to buy the ICO.  It doesn't mean that they bought them either but if there were 40,000 people holding bitcoin, waiting for this ICO, where are they?  I find it a bit weird to have that many followers and so little discussion or hype.  If those followers have bitcoin, there's a pretty good chance that many of them are familiar with this forum and many of those followers would be familiar with this thread.  There's probably less than 100 people that have posted anything in here.  Where's everyone else?  Where is all the hype, support, discussion?

BTW, the facebook page looks great.  You guys have some great graphic designers.




You didn't read anything I said did you? You've basically re-iterated what you said in answer to my first post but changed the sentence structure.

Sorry - I've nothing to say, I already answered those points. No offence!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Kuriso on October 19, 2014, 06:53:33 PM
I think you guys are missing the point with the expected ICO markup. If you look at their social media their Facebook page has 40,000 followers alone. Now if everyone from there were to invest, say 0.1btc (which isn't much for a good coin ICO) that would be 4000 btc. I think the true point we're all missing is the sheer amount of people these guys have placed trust and are following them "already".

In my opinion I'm going to have to be there at 12am on the dot to send my btc or I'm going to miss out on some of that exciting bergstake. I'm already saving up my zenminer cloud accumulation for the launch second of this coin. If I am thinking like this, chances are there are many, many more.

Good luck Devs, I think you will reach more than you expect :)

I can sell you 50,000 facebook followers for a couple hundred dollars.  Where are those 40,000 followers?  They aren't here.  Its been a lot of the same people discussing things here.  You'd think the discussion would be a lot stronger with 40,000 followers.  It will be interesting to see just how busy the ICO gets when the countdown timer hits all 0's

Sorry dude - That's a very negative take on it. Not everyone buys Facebook followers, and this forum isn't the be all and end all of crypto-talk. I watched this forum for months and months before I decided to sign up, I learned about bitcoin from various websites, blogs and news articles and there are certain crypto-currencies I've had my eye on before I knew this place existed.

You forget that what these guys are planning is a service - those 40,000 followers might be waiting for the service to start. Yes, they may have bought them but my half-glass full approach enables me to take calculated risks better than automatically dismissing a coin because it doesn't meet my standards (I have high standards btw).

E-sports is HUGE industry. Combining e-sports with cryptocurrency is a fantastic move IMO

You said we were missing the point with the expected ICO and compared it to their 40,000 facebook followers spending .1btc.  Having a lot of facebook users doesn't necessarily mean they have that many people waiting to buy the ICO.  It doesn't mean that they bought them either but if there were 40,000 people holding bitcoin, waiting for this ICO, where are they?  I find it a bit weird to have that many followers and so little discussion or hype.  If those followers have bitcoin, there's a pretty good chance that many of them are familiar with this forum and many of those followers would be familiar with this thread.  There's probably less than 100 people that have posted anything in here.  Where's everyone else?  Where is all the hype, support, discussion?

BTW, the facebook page looks great.  You guys have some great graphic designers.

You didn't read anything I said did you? You've basically re-iterated what you said in answer to my first post but changed the sentence structure.

Sorry - I've nothing to say, I already answered those points. No offence!

I read what you said.  Some of it I agree with so I didn't bother to respond to it.  I responded to the parts that I had a problem with.  Like saying I had a "negative take on it".  I wasn't trying to be negative.  Just trying to put things in perspective.  

I agree that they are building a service but I do not think its logical to conclude that all "those 40,000 followers might be waiting for the service to start".  Is there not even 5% (2,000) of them capable of being here to discuss our concerns?  What about 1% or .5%?

I agree that "E-sports is HUGE industry" and "Combining e-sports with cryptocurrency is a fantastic move..."

Why are we even bothering with discussing the facebook?  Do you have no input on anything else I've said in the other post?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: J9901 on October 19, 2014, 06:56:42 PM
So not only does this coin have an insanely huge 'premine' that screws initial investors in a way, it also seems like the one guy defending this coin lately has negative trust. Were are all the followers from Facebook? As far as I know, this is the only forum for BRO discussion. I can understand if there was another one, but there doesn't seem to be another...so with all those FB followers, where are they? More importantly, where are these CELEBRITIES? Is there any concrete proof that they're associated with BRO?

Yea, im real stoked to buy some BRO now.

Also, some of the BRO ads could use better photoshop skills. Seriously.

And contrary to what people have been saying, those Poker tables look like crap. Seriously go to any online Poker website and even their most basic ones are leagues beyond these crap previews weve gotten so far. They look like the were made using Windows Paint.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 19, 2014, 08:56:23 PM
has there been any real proof that these 'big name' players are involved or 'behind' bro?

Please start with the poker pros' twitters

links?  idk all their handles.  you should update the OP with this information.

https://twitter.com/REALJenHarman (https://twitter.com/REALJenHarman)

https://twitter.com/ToddBrunson (https://twitter.com/ToddBrunson)

https://twitter.com/ItsJohnnyChan (https://twitter.com/ItsJohnnyChan)

https://twitter.com/back2backflack (https://twitter.com/back2backflack)

https://twitter.com/ForrestTed (https://twitter.com/ForrestTed)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Rayban34 on October 19, 2014, 09:07:49 PM
I think you guys are missing the point with the expected ICO markup. If you look at their social media their Facebook page has 40,000 followers alone. Now if everyone from there were to invest, say 0.1btc (which isn't much for a good coin ICO) that would be 4000 btc. I think the true point we're all missing is the sheer amount of people these guys have placed trust and are following them "already".

In my opinion I'm going to have to be there at 12am on the dot to send my btc or I'm going to miss out on some of that exciting bergstake. I'm already saving up my zenminer cloud accumulation for the launch second of this coin. If I am thinking like this, chances are there are many, many more.

Good luck Devs, I think you will reach more than you expect :)

I can sell you 50,000 facebook followers for a couple hundred dollars.  Where are those 40,000 followers?  They aren't here.  Its been a lot of the same people discussing things here.  You'd think the discussion would be a lot stronger with 40,000 followers.  It will be interesting to see just how busy the ICO gets when the countdown timer hits all 0's

Sorry dude - That's a very negative take on it. Not everyone buys Facebook followers, and this forum isn't the be all and end all of crypto-talk. I watched this forum for months and months before I decided to sign up, I learned about bitcoin from various websites, blogs and news articles and there are certain crypto-currencies I've had my eye on before I knew this place existed.

You forget that what these guys are planning is a service - those 40,000 followers might be waiting for the service to start. Yes, they may have bought them but my half-glass full approach enables me to take calculated risks better than automatically dismissing a coin because it doesn't meet my standards (I have high standards btw).

E-sports is HUGE industry. Combining e-sports with cryptocurrency is a fantastic move IMO

You said we were missing the point with the expected ICO and compared it to their 40,000 facebook followers spending .1btc.  Having a lot of facebook users doesn't necessarily mean they have that many people waiting to buy the ICO.  It doesn't mean that they bought them either but if there were 40,000 people holding bitcoin, waiting for this ICO, where are they?  I find it a bit weird to have that many followers and so little discussion or hype.  If those followers have bitcoin, there's a pretty good chance that many of them are familiar with this forum and many of those followers would be familiar with this thread.  There's probably less than 100 people that have posted anything in here.  Where's everyone else?  Where is all the hype, support, discussion?

BTW, the facebook page looks great.  You guys have some great graphic designers.

You didn't read anything I said did you? You've basically re-iterated what you said in answer to my first post but changed the sentence structure.

Sorry - I've nothing to say, I already answered those points. No offence!

I read what you said.  Some of it I agree with so I didn't bother to respond to it.  I responded to the parts that I had a problem with.  Like saying I had a "negative take on it".  I wasn't trying to be negative.  Just trying to put things in perspective. 

I agree that they are building a service but I do not think its a logical to conclude that all "those 40,000 followers might be waiting for the service to start".  Is there not even 5% (2,000) of them capable of being here to discuss our concerns?  What about 1% or .5%?

I agree that "E-sports is HUGE industry" and "Combining e-sports with cryptocurrency is a fantastic move..."

Why are we even bothering with discussing the facebook?  Do you have no input on anything else I've said in the other post?

I respect your opinions, I really do. However in my opinion there needs to be a lot of BRO coin to be floating around for in-game currency for people that actually want to play the platform. If this is a player in which I have seen other players use e-sports it will be a mutli-million dollar franchise. To be honest, I really don't think we are getting screwed in any way shape or form. If we were to grab all the coins in the initial ICO we would effectively be holding the entire in-game system to ransom. As much as I would love that - because I would charge them a lot to play poker, it wouldn't be fair :)

Secondly, apologies BRO Coin for seeming to be the only one backing you here, and that my negative trust could be a stain on your reputation. If you would like to refer to my profile you can see that my negative trust was generated from being a "newbie asking for a loan" - in my defence I would also like to say that I am currently paying said loan (which I received in the end) 3 weeks early.



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 19, 2014, 09:38:19 PM
Roughly 14,880 coins will be minted each day if you include PoW and PoB which works out to just over 22 bitcoins a day needed to maintain 150ksat so investors do no lose money on the ICO.

pre-mine: 14 million   (2.5 dev, 4.5 ico, 7 giveaways)

year1 - 3.5 million pow   (9589 per day)

year2 -3.5 million pow (9589 per day)

year3 - 2 million pob (5480 per day)

year4 - 2 million pob (5480 per day)

lets get the facts right first  


Ok so PoB doesn't start until the 3rd year?  I know PoB runs perpetually after PoW ends but does it not generate coins from the start?  I guess I had it right in an earlier post then.  I had thought it was that way but after re-looking at some of the information I thought I had originally made a mistake.

9589 BRO per day at 150k sat is a little over 14 bitcoins a day needed to maintain a break-even price for investors IF 7,000 bitcoins are raised during the ICO.

I made a mistake because I thought PoB would still be happening during PoW.


2.5 million coins for the 'dev' is equal to 3759 bitcoins if 7000 bitcoins are raised during the ICO  Don't you think thats a bit much?  Your asking for a big ICO plus you're keeping 2.5 million coins to pay for things that the ICO should be paying for.  Seems a bit excessive.



Hello everyone, thank you for your recent comments.  We are actively looking for ways to reward potential Coin Sale participants and will post our decision on this thread.
 
We do want to make a clear distinction as to where the 2.5 million coins are going.  This project differs vastly from other crypto related projects.  Typically with most "coins sales," a development team will show their community a whitepaper or a detailed plan of action and reach out to the community to fund their ideas.  Breakout will have over 40 members that invested "SIGNIFICANT" fiat capital or sweat equity into the project already.  These 2.5 million BRO coins are not being "given" to the investors, in actuality they have "bought" into the BRO coins.  This gaming project has been funded for almost a year now and the amount of talent and resources that have been poured into the project already is tremendous.  The amount of capital that has been poured into the gaming project gives all the investors of the "crowd sale" an opportunity to participate in the success of BRO that Breakout Gaming will use and support.  There has been significant money invested already into the gaming project that allows you to benefit from day one.  

To be clear, the entire team believes in the future of cryptocurrency and gaming.  We are dedicated to make this project a success.  Cutting edge poker, casino, Fantasy games software is a huge resource sink.  Design, security, licensing, marketing, etc.. all these have been paid for almost a year now.  The management team we assembled is superb and each is contributing with the hopes that BRO will be a success.

The marketing pros that will be supporting your BRO and Breakout Gaming have all forgone cash compensation and betting on the success of BRO and Breakout Gaming.  Some of these pros at Pokerstars earned over million dollar paydays for their marketing efforts.  The entire Breakout Team have accepted nothing but "computer code" and the dream that Breakout Gaming can advance the marriage of crypto and gaming.  

The 7 million giveaway will be exclusively used for marketing and player acquisition.  There is a misconception that these coins will dilute your BRO value.  Nothing can be further from the truth.  The coins will be used for freerolls and bonuses and referrals.  Once these gamers start playing on our site, there will be a realistic conversion ratio to "live" money players.  These players will be buying into BRO with "fiat" capital. These gamers will be supplying liquidity and demand for BRO.  The "more" players we can convert the more demand and liquidity there will be for your BRO coin and the more valuable your Bergstake will be.  You should want Breakout Gaming to grow our player base as large as possible.  These 7 million giveaways coins gives us the opportunity to attract new players all over the world and provide increasing demand for BRO.  Our goal is to have 750,000 registered use by the end of year two.

If we can grow our user base to over a million quickly, the demand and liquidity for BRO and Bergstake can grow at a rapid pace.  The entire team is dedicated to make this happen.  


Disclaimer: Breakout Coin and Breakout Gaming are two separate services/entities.  Breakout Coin is offering BRO coins for btc. By participating in this "coin sale," you are not purchasing interest in Breakout Gaming.  You are solely participating in the "coin sale" of a crypto coin that happens to have a gaming company that supports the BRO coin by having their chips denominated in the BRO crypto coin.

As specified in the first paragraph in the Terms and Conditions:

WARNING:  Do not purchase BRO if you are not an expert in crypto tokens or currency and blockchain technology.

This coin sale is not an offer of investment or securities in any business, venture, or company, or in any form of gaming operations or activity; purchase of BRO does not entitle the buyer to any interest in any profits or revenue of any common enterprise arising from the activities of others.

 


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Skatebird on October 19, 2014, 09:58:03 PM
Ive already said before, but this is the most greedy devs ive ever seen. If you are so confident about the project, you should buy a big amount of BRO in the ICO so you will be able to make the cash ( and lot more) you already invest in the project. You want to get paid like 2-3 millions us dollars to build this project. Seriously, could be nice in your dream but we are in reality here. I propose you 2 things:

1. You cap the ICO with a reasonable price;

2. You sell every premine coins in the ICO and keep little amount for giveaway (like 500k). After that, dyou (devs) invest Massively in the ICO so you can be rich. Anyway, when we read you, there is no possibility that the coin value drop after ICO.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutCoin on October 19, 2014, 10:19:31 PM


Here is the answer to how much bitcoin is needed and how it will be used.  We need a minimum of 1000 BTC.  That would keep the coin going with adequate support.  A total collection of 7 to 15 thousand BTC would enable our planned delivery of 1) strong coin development and 2) demand growth by stimulating use and liquidity of BRO.  The more BTC collected in the ICO, the more the demand for the BRO will be reinforced by global marketing and coin refinements that keep it on the leading edge. Marketing and development funds will be spent in the best ways for BRO, as described in the offering, and have no logical upper bound.

That's well and good, as it would improve the likelihood that BRO's price would steadily rise as more people learn of and use the coin, and thus provides an unprecedented advantage to this coin. But as more BTC are collected, wouldn't the proportion of the 4.5m BRO each participant receives in the ICO be diminished? So, shouldn't participants be protected from such apparent dilution by a cap on the maximum BTC accepted?

If the ICO was a pie with a size limited by a cap, then each participant's piece would still be proportional to the BTC they put in -- except the size of the pie would be arbitrarily limited.  Since, as noted above, there is no logical upper bound on the amount that the coin can be promoted and kept on the leading edge, it would be counter-productive to specify a limit, for every ICO participant and future holder of BRO.  That would only constrain the benefit to them from higher potential appreciation and stability of BRO. A bigger ICO means a stronger BRO. And, if the value of the ICO pie is bigger and the piece for a participant is proportionately smaller, the value of the participant's position remains the same -- whatever he or she chooses to put in. However, the BRO everyone holds from a bigger ICO would be bolstered for the future.





Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 19, 2014, 10:28:38 PM
You sell every premine coins in the ICO and keep little amount for giveaway (like 500k). After that, dyou (devs) invest Massively in the ICO so you can be rich. Anyway, when we read you, there is no possibility that the coin value drop after ICO.
this is just pure FUD, devs investing their own ICO is the biggest scam and worst thing any investor would want. all we would be doing is paying ourselfs BTC, while in the process diluting everyone elses share of ico.

think the best idea would be to add .5 million coins to ico for each 1000 coins raised. so instead of new investors diluting the total, new investors will be growing the total.



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: ofortuna on October 19, 2014, 10:35:42 PM


Here's something to consider.  Anyone that wants in the ICO will be able to buy in during the 30 day period.  They have 30 days to get a piece of 4.5million BRO.  After the ICO ends, who is left to buy?  Did a lot of people miss out?  Everyone had a chance to spend their bitcoins and get some coins.  Now the markets open.  Who are the next buyers?  Who is willing to pay more for BRO than what ICO investors paid?  If they really wanted BRO, they bought it during the ICO.  The buyers that are left are the ones waiting to buy BRO under the ICO value.  Do you expect to see a flood of buy support that will keep the price above the ICO cost?  Remember, eventually 9.5 million coins are waiting to hit the market plus 9500+ PoW coins each and every day.

Kuriso,

People will buy coins to play games after the Coin Sale, even people who know nothing about crypto currency.  For instance, when a player uses a fiat processor and buys $100 in chips to play Fantasy Football, those chips are denominated in Breakout Coins.  In order to have a full reserve reserve for chips in play, we will go out into the open market and buy BRO to cover the $100 purchase.  There will be continued daily support for BRO from the gamers.

The 7m giveaway coins will be used to acquire these players gradually over 2 years.



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Skatebird on October 19, 2014, 10:37:30 PM
You sell every premine coins in the ICO and keep little amount for giveaway (like 500k). After that, dyou (devs) invest Massively in the ICO so you can be rich. Anyway, when we read you, there is no possibility that the coin value drop after ICO.
this is just pure FUD, devs investing their own ICO is the biggest scam and worst thing any investor would want. all we would be doing is paying ourselfs BTC, while in the process diluting everyone elses share of ico.

think the best idea would be to add .5 million coins to ico for each 1000 coins raised. so instead of new investors diluting the total, new investors will be growing the total.



Can you please give us proof of how much btc your team invested in the project so far ? Can we have more details about these investments ? ( how much ?, where it goes ?, who invested what?). Seriously, i dont want to make free FUD, but just cant believe what you are saying because we havent details. I agree that if you have invested 100 btc in the project, you should have possibility to recover these btc. But, im not sure you have already or will invest like 1500 btc. If you want a wage, it need to be reasonable. We are talking of millions dollars here, its huge for something that not really exist so far.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: myagui on October 19, 2014, 10:56:23 PM
I posted at the pre-ann before, and still find this to be a very interesting project.

My earlier concern remains, which is that bergstake is only triggered 2 years into the future. As a potential investor, I see bergstake as being a big plus, however, 2 years is an inordinate amount of time for that investment to bear fruit. Given any final ICO numbers and exchange rate after launch, bergstake would ensure 'some' returns for ICO buyers, as long as the 'berg'staking time frame was more reasonable.

See, after launch, even if someone was dumping below ICO price, investors would still have bergstake to their advantage. Just that 2 years down the line is way too much. I figure that the maximum I could entertain would be a 6 months PoW duration (by which time I'm assuming that the gaming platform would be in full swing).

Cheers & good luck!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Kuriso on October 19, 2014, 11:30:28 PM


Here is the answer to how much bitcoin is needed and how it will be used.  We need a minimum of 1000 BTC.  That would keep the coin going with adequate support.  A total collection of 7 to 15 thousand BTC would enable our planned delivery of 1) strong coin development and 2) demand growth by stimulating use and liquidity of BRO.  The more BTC collected in the ICO, the more the demand for the BRO will be reinforced by global marketing and coin refinements that keep it on the leading edge. Marketing and development funds will be spent in the best ways for BRO, as described in the offering, and have no logical upper bound.

That's well and good, as it would improve the likelihood that BRO's price would steadily rise as more people learn of and use the coin, and thus provides an unprecedented advantage to this coin. But as more BTC are collected, wouldn't the proportion of the 4.5m BRO each participant receives in the ICO be diminished? So, shouldn't participants be protected from such apparent dilution by a cap on the maximum BTC accepted?

If the ICO was a pie with a size limited by a cap, then each participant's piece would still be proportional to the BTC they put in -- except the size of the pie would be arbitrarily limited.  Since, as noted above, there is no logical upper bound on the amount that the coin can be promoted and kept on the leading edge, it would be counter-productive to specify a limit, for every ICO participant and future holder of BRO.  That would only constrain the benefit to them from higher potential appreciation and stability of BRO. A bigger ICO means a stronger BRO. And, if the value of the ICO pie is bigger and the piece for a participant is proportionately smaller, the value of the participant's position remains the same -- whatever he or she chooses to put in. However, the BRO everyone holds from a bigger ICO would be bolstered for the future.


I can understand how collecting 7 to 15 thousand BTC would enable you to do a lot for the coin but that is not a realistic goal for only 4.5 million coins in the ICO.  What happens if the 1,000btc ICO isn't reached?  Will the project continue?  Will we be refunded?


Yes, if the ICO was capped, each participant's piece would still be proportional to the BTC they put in but the concern is not necessarily limiting the amount of the pie each person gets but the cost of each piece of the pie.  Does that make sense?

If I invest 1btc into BRO and the total ICO is 1,000btc, my share of the pie is 4500bro @ 22,000 sats +/- each (2btc +/- per day to eat up PoW coins) 14 million premine makes a 3,080btc market cap

If I invest 1btc into BRO and the total ICO is 5,000btc, my share of the pie is 900bro @ 110,000 sats +/- each (10btc +/- per day to eat up PoW coins) 14 million premine makes a 15,400btc market cap

If I invest 1btc into BRO and the total ICO is 7,000btc, my share of the pie is 642bro @ 155,000 sats +/- each (14btc +/- per day to eat up PoW coins) 14 million premine makes a 21,700btc market cap

If I invest 1btc into BRO and the total ICO is 10,000btc, my share of the pie is 450bro @ 220,000 sats +/- each (20btc +/- per day to eat up PoW coins) 14 million premine makes a 30,800btc market cap

As you can see from the above examples, my 1 bitcoin investment is worth less BRO but worth more per bitcoin as the ICO increases.  This is the problem.  In green, the cost per day to eat PoW coins increases as well.  None of the cost per day factors in the give-a-way coins or the coins that the devs cash in to pay for stuff.

It doesn't matter if 100 people or 5000 people invested in the ICO to raise these funds.  What matters is the total amount of BTC raised divided by the number of coins.  This determines the potential market cap and creates a break even point that must be maintained so that investors do not lose out.  The problem with the uncapped ICO is we have no idea where the price falls.  The more people that invest dilutes the amount of BRO per btc and raises the cost per coin.  Using part of the 2.5 million held by the devs can help offset this increase as more investors jump in.

An uncapped ICO is still do-able if additional coins are added to the 4.5 million BRO.  It needs to be significant amounts.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Kuriso on October 19, 2014, 11:47:23 PM


Here's something to consider.  Anyone that wants in the ICO will be able to buy in during the 30 day period.  They have 30 days to get a piece of 4.5million BRO.  After the ICO ends, who is left to buy?  Did a lot of people miss out?  Everyone had a chance to spend their bitcoins and get some coins.  Now the markets open.  Who are the next buyers?  Who is willing to pay more for BRO than what ICO investors paid?  If they really wanted BRO, they bought it during the ICO.  The buyers that are left are the ones waiting to buy BRO under the ICO value.  Do you expect to see a flood of buy support that will keep the price above the ICO cost?  Remember, eventually 9.5 million coins are waiting to hit the market plus 9500+ PoW coins each and every day.

Kuriso,

People will buy coins to play games after the Coin Sale, even people who know nothing about crypto currency.  For instance, when a player uses a fiat processor and buys $100 in chips to play Fantasy Football, those chips are denominated in Breakout Coins.  In order to have a full reserve reserve for chips in play, we will go out into the open market and buy BRO to cover the $100 purchase.  There will be continued daily support for BRO from the gamers.

The 7m giveaway coins will be used to acquire these players gradually over 2 years.



Yes, fiat will provide buy support but you also have people cashing out.  Will these actions equal out?  Will more people buy-in than cash-out?  I dont know the answer to this.  You might could find some stats from real life casinos or other online gaming sites but its hard to say what the balance will be.  

I buy $100 in BRO with fiat.  I play craps and I lose it.  The house now has my $100.  Will those coins go to market?  Will they be dumped on buy orders or placed for sell?

I buy $100 in BRO with fiat.  I play poker and I lose it.  A player now has my $100.  He could cash out that $100 or he could continue to play.  If he cashes it out, he cancels my $100 buy support.  The 2 transactions basically cancel themselves.

I buy $100 in BRO with fiat.  I play craps and win $200 from the house.  I now cash-out my $200.  I cancel out my $100 buy support and add $100 sell pressure to the market.


Yes, I know the give-a-way coins will be spread over 2 years but that's still 3.5 million a year.  WOW i just did the math...

That's 9589 coins a day!!!  An average of 9589 coins per day for give-a-way if the devs keep that schedule.  This is basically equal to the PoW coins each day.

edited for my mistake


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 19, 2014, 11:48:31 PM


Here is the answer to how much bitcoin is needed and how it will be used.  We need a minimum of 1000 BTC.  That would keep the coin going with adequate support.  A total collection of 7 to 15 thousand BTC would enable our planned delivery of 1) strong coin development and 2) demand growth by stimulating use and liquidity of BRO.  The more BTC collected in the ICO, the more the demand for the BRO will be reinforced by global marketing and coin refinements that keep it on the leading edge. Marketing and development funds will be spent in the best ways for BRO, as described in the offering, and have no logical upper bound.

That's well and good, as it would improve the likelihood that BRO's price would steadily rise as more people learn of and use the coin, and thus provides an unprecedented advantage to this coin. But as more BTC are collected, wouldn't the proportion of the 4.5m BRO each participant receives in the ICO be diminished? So, shouldn't participants be protected from such apparent dilution by a cap on the maximum BTC accepted?

If the ICO was a pie with a size limited by a cap, then each participant's piece would still be proportional to the BTC they put in -- except the size of the pie would be arbitrarily limited.  Since, as noted above, there is no logical upper bound on the amount that the coin can be promoted and kept on the leading edge, it would be counter-productive to specify a limit, for every ICO participant and future holder of BRO.  That would only constrain the benefit to them from higher potential appreciation and stability of BRO. A bigger ICO means a stronger BRO. And, if the value of the ICO pie is bigger and the piece for a participant is proportionately smaller, the value of the participant's position remains the same -- whatever he or she chooses to put in. However, the BRO everyone holds from a bigger ICO would be bolstered for the future.


I can understand how collecting 7 to 15 thousand BTC would enable you to do a lot for the coin but that is not a realistic goal for only 4.5 million coins in the ICO.  What happens if the 1,000btc ICO isn't reached?  We the project continue?  Will we be refunded?


Yes, if the ICO was capped, each participant's piece would still be proportional to the BTC they put in but the concern is not necessarily limiting the amount of the pie each person gets but the cost of each piece of the pie.  Does that make sense?

If I invest 1btc into BRO and the total ICO is 1,000btc, my share of the pie is 4500bro @ 22,000 sats +/- each (2btc +/- per day to eat up PoW coins) 14 million premine makes a 3,080btc market cap

If I invest 1btc into BRO and the total ICO is 5,000btc, my share of the pie is 900bro @ 110,000 sats +/- each (10btc +/- per day to eat up PoW coins) 14 million premine makes a 15,400btc market cap

If I invest 1btc into BRO and the total ICO is 7,000btc, my share of the pie is 642bro @ 155,000 sats +/- each (14btc +/- per day to eat up PoW coins) 14 million premine makes a 21,700btc market cap

If I invest 1btc into BRO and the total ICO is 10,000btc, my share of the pie is 450bro @ 220,000 sats +/- each (20btc +/- per day to eat up PoW coins) 14 million premine makes a 30,800btc market cap

As you can see from the above examples, my 1 bitcoin investment is worth less BRO but worth more per bitcoin as the ICO increases.  This is the problem.  In green, the cost per day to eat PoW coins increases as well.  None of the cost per day factors in the give-a-way coins or the coins that the devs cash in to pay for stuff.

It doesn't matter if 100 people or 5000 people invested in the ICO to raise these funds.  What matters is the total amount of BTC raised divided by the number of coins.  This determines the potential market cap and creates a break even point that must be maintained so that investors do not lose out.  The problem with the uncapped ICO is we have no idea where the price falls.  The more people that invest dilutes the amount of BRO per btc and raises the cost per coin.  Using part of the 2.5 million held by the devs can help offset this increase as more investors jump in.

An uncapped ICO is still do-able if additional coins are added to the 4.5 million BRO.  It needs to be significant amounts.

there is nothing new here. as a single investor you want as many coins as possible for the least amount of BTC, and as the seller they want as many BTCs as possible. this is the nature of an ICO. this is how ethereum and many other did it. nothing new.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 19, 2014, 11:50:13 PM
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I respect your opinions, I really do. However in my opinion there needs to be a lot of BRO coin to be floating around for in-game currency for people that actually want to play the platform. If this is a player in which I have seen other players use e-sports it will be a mutli-million dollar franchise. To be honest, I really don't think we are getting screwed in any way shape or form. If we were to grab all the coins in the initial ICO we would effectively be holding the entire in-game system to ransom. As much as I would love that - because I would charge them a lot to play poker, it wouldn't be fair Smiley

Secondly, apologies BRO Coin for seeming to be the only one backing you here, and that my negative trust could be a stain on your reputation. If you would like to refer to my profile you can see that my negative trust was generated from being a "newbie asking for a loan" - in my defence I would also like to say that I am currently paying said loan (which I received in the end) 3 weeks early.

It's always good to have different views...  Glad to have you here!



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Kuriso on October 19, 2014, 11:56:21 PM


Here is the answer to how much bitcoin is needed and how it will be used.  We need a minimum of 1000 BTC.  That would keep the coin going with adequate support.  A total collection of 7 to 15 thousand BTC would enable our planned delivery of 1) strong coin development and 2) demand growth by stimulating use and liquidity of BRO.  The more BTC collected in the ICO, the more the demand for the BRO will be reinforced by global marketing and coin refinements that keep it on the leading edge. Marketing and development funds will be spent in the best ways for BRO, as described in the offering, and have no logical upper bound.

That's well and good, as it would improve the likelihood that BRO's price would steadily rise as more people learn of and use the coin, and thus provides an unprecedented advantage to this coin. But as more BTC are collected, wouldn't the proportion of the 4.5m BRO each participant receives in the ICO be diminished? So, shouldn't participants be protected from such apparent dilution by a cap on the maximum BTC accepted?

If the ICO was a pie with a size limited by a cap, then each participant's piece would still be proportional to the BTC they put in -- except the size of the pie would be arbitrarily limited.  Since, as noted above, there is no logical upper bound on the amount that the coin can be promoted and kept on the leading edge, it would be counter-productive to specify a limit, for every ICO participant and future holder of BRO.  That would only constrain the benefit to them from higher potential appreciation and stability of BRO. A bigger ICO means a stronger BRO. And, if the value of the ICO pie is bigger and the piece for a participant is proportionately smaller, the value of the participant's position remains the same -- whatever he or she chooses to put in. However, the BRO everyone holds from a bigger ICO would be bolstered for the future.


I can understand how collecting 7 to 15 thousand BTC would enable you to do a lot for the coin but that is not a realistic goal for only 4.5 million coins in the ICO.  What happens if the 1,000btc ICO isn't reached?  Will the project continue?  Will we be refunded?


Yes, if the ICO was capped, each participant's piece would still be proportional to the BTC they put in but the concern is not necessarily limiting the amount of the pie each person gets but the cost of each piece of the pie.  Does that make sense?

If I invest 1btc into BRO and the total ICO is 1,000btc, my share of the pie is 4500bro @ 22,000 sats +/- each (2btc +/- per day to eat up PoW coins) 14 million premine makes a 3,080btc market cap

If I invest 1btc into BRO and the total ICO is 5,000btc, my share of the pie is 900bro @ 110,000 sats +/- each (10btc +/- per day to eat up PoW coins) 14 million premine makes a 15,400btc market cap

If I invest 1btc into BRO and the total ICO is 7,000btc, my share of the pie is 642bro @ 155,000 sats +/- each (14btc +/- per day to eat up PoW coins) 14 million premine makes a 21,700btc market cap

If I invest 1btc into BRO and the total ICO is 10,000btc, my share of the pie is 450bro @ 220,000 sats +/- each (20btc +/- per day to eat up PoW coins) 14 million premine makes a 30,800btc market cap

As you can see from the above examples, my 1 bitcoin investment is worth less BRO but worth more per bitcoin as the ICO increases.  This is the problem.  In green, the cost per day to eat PoW coins increases as well.  None of the cost per day factors in the give-a-way coins or the coins that the devs cash in to pay for stuff.

It doesn't matter if 100 people or 5000 people invested in the ICO to raise these funds.  What matters is the total amount of BTC raised divided by the number of coins.  This determines the potential market cap and creates a break even point that must be maintained so that investors do not lose out.  The problem with the uncapped ICO is we have no idea where the price falls.  The more people that invest dilutes the amount of BRO per btc and raises the cost per coin.  Using part of the 2.5 million held by the devs can help offset this increase as more investors jump in.

An uncapped ICO is still do-able if additional coins are added to the 4.5 million BRO.  It needs to be significant amounts.

there is nothing new here. as a single investor you want as many coins as possible for the least amount of BTC, and as the seller they want as many BTCs as possible. this is the nature of an ICO. this is how ethereum and many other did it. nothing new.

True but Ether ICO went way over board.  The Ether market cap and cost per coin will be way too high.  Coins will be sold well under the ICO value.

I guess where it stands now, if the ICO is 1000-1500 btc, I'm probably in.  I'll be waiting till the end.  I said 500 in an earlier post but after looking at the details more and talking with you'll, I think 1000-1500 is a better range.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Arbex on October 20, 2014, 12:19:14 AM
You sell every premine coins in the ICO and keep little amount for giveaway (like 500k). After that, dyou (devs) invest Massively in the ICO so you can be rich. Anyway, when we read you, there is no possibility that the coin value drop after ICO.
this is just pure FUD, devs investing their own ICO is the biggest scam and worst thing any investor would want. all we would be doing is paying ourselfs BTC, while in the process diluting everyone elses share of ico.

think the best idea would be to add .5 million coins to ico for each 1000 coins raised. so instead of new investors diluting the total, new investors will be growing the total.



Can you please give us proof of how much btc your team invested in the project so far ? Can we have more details about these investments ? ( how much ?, where it goes ?, who invested what?). Seriously, i dont want to make free FUD, but just cant believe what you are saying because we havent details. I agree that if you have invested 100 btc in the project, you should have possibility to recover these btc. But, im not sure you have already or will invest like 1500 btc. If you want a wage, it need to be reasonable. We are talking of millions dollars here, its huge for something that not really exist so far.

Why ask "how much btc your team invested in the project so far ? Can we have more details about these investments ? ( how much ?, where it goes ?, who invested what?)..."?

If Breakout (or anyone offering a service, product or item) spent X, maybe they could have bought the same (or made it) for .5X, or ineffectively for 1.8X, using some other method. Pursuing details about that is an utter distraction.

The important questions and issues for the upcoming ICO, are about the technical attributes of the coin and the likely viability of it in the market.  Basically, will BRO be solid and useful relative to other cryptocoins and currencies? There are plenty of questions and answers addressing those points that help our evaluation of BRO.

For instance, through the ICO, one gets the coin and Bergstake enabling future virtual mining for that acquirer only.  That is unique and a potential source of value not available in any other coin.  If one is sincere about assessing the value of getting BRO in the ICO, there is much in the forum and in the Announcement on that. 

Regarding the commitment and strength of the promotion of the coin's usage, look at the first-class design and development groups in the Announcement, the top celebrities involved, and the sample webpages.  Do you really think the groups in the core team would associate themselves with fake mock-ups, for instance?

Questions, suggestions, and feedback that help us all to evaluate (and improve) BRO are valuable.  That's what I and hopefully others read this forum for.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Skatebird on October 20, 2014, 12:37:40 AM
You sell every premine coins in the ICO and keep little amount for giveaway (like 500k). After that, dyou (devs) invest Massively in the ICO so you can be rich. Anyway, when we read you, there is no possibility that the coin value drop after ICO.
this is just pure FUD, devs investing their own ICO is the biggest scam and worst thing any investor would want. all we would be doing is paying ourselfs BTC, while in the process diluting everyone elses share of ico.

think the best idea would be to add .5 million coins to ico for each 1000 coins raised. so instead of new investors diluting the total, new investors will be growing the total.



Can you please give us proof of how much btc your team invested in the project so far ? Can we have more details about these investments ? ( how much ?, where it goes ?, who invested what?). Seriously, i dont want to make free FUD, but just cant believe what you are saying because we havent details. I agree that if you have invested 100 btc in the project, you should have possibility to recover these btc. But, im not sure you have already or will invest like 1500 btc. If you want a wage, it need to be reasonable. We are talking of millions dollars here, its huge for something that not really exist so far.

Why ask "how much btc your team invested in the project so far ? Can we have more details about these investments ? ( how much ?, where it goes ?, who invested what?)..."?

If Breakout (or anyone offering a service, product or item) spent X, maybe they could have bought the same (or made it) for .5X, or ineffectively for 1.8X, using some other method. Pursuing details about that is an utter distraction.

Dafuq are you talking about ?, people here have no fuckin skill in finance. It could be very interesting for futur investors to know how much devs already put in there project. It could bring confidence. Devs said they put lot of money in this, is it real? If they have nothing to hide, they can say this no problem there. I challenge you to find investors to give you money for a project without asking you how much you have already put in !!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: ofortuna on October 20, 2014, 12:41:25 AM


Here's something to consider.  Anyone that wants in the ICO will be able to buy in during the 30 day period.  They have 30 days to get a piece of 4.5million BRO.  After the ICO ends, who is left to buy?  Did a lot of people miss out?  Everyone had a chance to spend their bitcoins and get some coins.  Now the markets open.  Who are the next buyers?  Who is willing to pay more for BRO than what ICO investors paid?  If they really wanted BRO, they bought it during the ICO.  The buyers that are left are the ones waiting to buy BRO under the ICO value.  Do you expect to see a flood of buy support that will keep the price above the ICO cost?  Remember, eventually 9.5 million coins are waiting to hit the market plus 9500+ PoW coins each and every day.

Kuriso,

People will buy coins to play games after the Coin Sale, even people who know nothing about crypto currency.  For instance, when a player uses a fiat processor and buys $100 in chips to play Fantasy Football, those chips are denominated in Breakout Coins.  In order to have a full reserve reserve for chips in play, we will go out into the open market and buy BRO to cover the $100 purchase.  There will be continued daily support for BRO from the gamers.

The 7m giveaway coins will be used to acquire these players gradually over 2 years.



Yes, fiat will provide buy support but you also have people cashing out.  Will these actions equal out?  Will more people buy-in than cash-out?  I dont know the answer to this.  You might could find some stats from real life casinos or other online gaming sites but its hard to say what the balance will be. 

I buy $100 in BRO with fiat.  I play craps and I lose it.  The house now has my $100.  Will those coins go to market?  Will they be dumped on buy orders or placed for sell?

I buy $100 in BRO with fiat.  I play poker and I lose it.  A player now has my $100.  He could cash out that $100 or he could continue to play.  If he cashes it out, he cancels my $100 buy support.  The 2 transactions basically cancel themselves.

I buy $100 in BRO with fiat.  I play craps and win $200 from the house.  I now cash-out my $200.  I cancel out my $100 buy support and add $100 sell pressure to the market.


Yes, I know the give-a-way coins will be spread over 2 years but that's still 4.5 million a year.  WOW i just did the math...

That's 12,328 coins a day!!!  An average of 12,328 coins per day for give-a-way if the devs keep that schedule.  That's more than PoW coins.

Hi Kuriso,

Thanks for all your input and your interest in the project.

First thing I'd like to point out, is that 7m coins across two years is not 4.5 million a year.  So your final numbers are off.

2nd, your examples of players cashing in and out is definitely possible for small cash transactions but I think the majority of players, and definitely the higher limit players, will be keeping chip balances or cashing out in crypto.  In fact, I believe we will be introducing a lot of people to the advantages of crypto transactions over fiat. Whether players will prefer to hold BRO, btc, ltc, any other coin or fiat will be up to them.

This will result in:

1) Liquidity for BRO
2) Market cap of cryptos increasing in general





Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Kuriso on October 20, 2014, 01:05:59 AM


Here's something to consider.  Anyone that wants in the ICO will be able to buy in during the 30 day period.  They have 30 days to get a piece of 4.5million BRO.  After the ICO ends, who is left to buy?  Did a lot of people miss out?  Everyone had a chance to spend their bitcoins and get some coins.  Now the markets open.  Who are the next buyers?  Who is willing to pay more for BRO than what ICO investors paid?  If they really wanted BRO, they bought it during the ICO.  The buyers that are left are the ones waiting to buy BRO under the ICO value.  Do you expect to see a flood of buy support that will keep the price above the ICO cost?  Remember, eventually 9.5 million coins are waiting to hit the market plus 9500+ PoW coins each and every day.

Kuriso,

People will buy coins to play games after the Coin Sale, even people who know nothing about crypto currency.  For instance, when a player uses a fiat processor and buys $100 in chips to play Fantasy Football, those chips are denominated in Breakout Coins.  In order to have a full reserve reserve for chips in play, we will go out into the open market and buy BRO to cover the $100 purchase.  There will be continued daily support for BRO from the gamers.

The 7m giveaway coins will be used to acquire these players gradually over 2 years.



Yes, fiat will provide buy support but you also have people cashing out.  Will these actions equal out?  Will more people buy-in than cash-out?  I dont know the answer to this.  You might could find some stats from real life casinos or other online gaming sites but its hard to say what the balance will be. 

I buy $100 in BRO with fiat.  I play craps and I lose it.  The house now has my $100.  Will those coins go to market?  Will they be dumped on buy orders or placed for sell?

I buy $100 in BRO with fiat.  I play poker and I lose it.  A player now has my $100.  He could cash out that $100 or he could continue to play.  If he cashes it out, he cancels my $100 buy support.  The 2 transactions basically cancel themselves.

I buy $100 in BRO with fiat.  I play craps and win $200 from the house.  I now cash-out my $200.  I cancel out my $100 buy support and add $100 sell pressure to the market.


Yes, I know the give-a-way coins will be spread over 2 years but that's still 3.5 million a year.  WOW i just did the math...

That's 9589 coins a day!!!  An average of 9589 coins per day for give-a-way if the devs keep that schedule.  This is basically equal to the PoW coins each day.

edited for my mistake

Hi Kuriso,

Thanks for all your input and your interest in the project.

First thing I'd like to point out, is that 7m coins across two years is not 4.5 million a year.  So your final numbers are off.

2nd, your examples of players cashing in and out is definitely possible for small cash transactions but I think the majority of players, and definitely the higher limit players, will be keeping chip balances or cashing out in crypto.  In fact, I believe we will be introducing a lot of people to the advantages of crypto transactions over fiat. Whether players will prefer to hold BRO, btc, ltc, any other coin or fiat will be up to them.

This will result in:

1) Liquidity for BRO
2) Market cap of cryptos increasing in general



Ahh yes! Damnit!  I had 4.5 million in my head from the ICO.  I looked that those numbers several times before I posted and didn't catch the mistake.  I corrected it above. 

I think the numbers will be the same no matter how much fiat or bitcoin is used to buy bro.  If you put 10 BRO in, you can only take 10 BRO out.  If you put 10,000,000 BRO in you can only take 10,000,000 BRO out.  What will be left to see is if 10,000,000 BRO are put in and only 5,000,000 taken out.  This kind of imbalance will definitely cause heavy buy support.  At some point though the other 5,000,000 will need to come out and hopefully buy support can keep things off balance. 

Gamers will need to cash-out winnings.  Will we have the option to cash-out in fiat, bitcoins, litcoins, or other crypto within the gaming platform?  Or will this be on the open exchange?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Kuriso on October 20, 2014, 01:10:56 AM
Also, there are several very important questions that need to be answered.  I double checked and hadn't seen the answer for these.  I am blind sometimes so I'm sorry if I missed the answers.

What happens if the 1,000btc ICO isn't reached?  Will the project continue?  Will we be refunded?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 20, 2014, 01:29:50 AM
Also, there are several very important questions that need to be answered.  I double checked and hadn't seen the answer for these.  I am blind sometimes so I'm sorry if I missed the answers.

What happens if the 1,000btc ICO isn't reached?  Will the project continue?  Will we be refunded?

Kuriso, there has already been significant money invested in the gaming project.  1,000btc is not a a hard number, it is a number that we feel suitable to make sure we can launch a product properly.  If we fall short of that number, but in a reasonable range, the founders and original investors will contribute additional funds to make it work.  If we fall way short of that amount, to where we feel it may not be beneficial to add additional funds, then yes, all btc refunded.

Either way, we plan on the project continuing through various other funding avenues that are available to us.  The "crowd sale" model is the most attractive to us for obvious reasons.  This will allow crypto coin buyers to get in on the ground floor of a coin that will be used by an International Gaming company.  

Please keep in mind, the "crowd sale" buyers will receive Bergstake, which so far has been totally undervalued on this forum.  The Bergstake is potentially worth far, far more than the actual BRO Coins you purchasing.  As our user base grows over the next two years, so will the demand for BRO.  Only Bergstake owners will have the right to "virtual mine" all future BRO.  This will be the only time that you will be able to purchase of BRO at any time.

The 7 million coin giveaway will be disbursed in small increments with play-through requirements.  The giveaway is designed not to disperse large amounts, but to attract the widest and largest group possible to gain mass registration.  In addition, we have been in deep discussion over the Bergstake attached to the 7 million giveaway.  We are contemplating burning those Bergstake in order to avoid dilution of the Bergstake shares. We have also been discussing the possibility of giving those Bergstakes to charities that support crypto currencies, such as the Bitcoin Foundation, etc..

Disclaimer: Breakout Coin and Breakout Gaming are two separate services/entities.  Breakout Coin is offering BRO coins for btc. By participating in this "coin sale," you are not purchasing interest in Breakout Gaming.  You are solely participating in the "coin sale" of a crypto coin that happens to have a gaming company that supports the BRO coin by having their chips denominated in the BRO crypto coin.

As specified in the first paragraph in the Terms and Conditions:

WARNING:  Do not purchase BRO if you are not an expert in crypto tokens or currency and blockchain technology.

This coin sale is not an offer of investment or securities in any business, venture, or company, or in any form of gaming operations or activity; purchase of BRO does not entitle the buyer to any interest in any profits or revenue of any common enterprise arising from the activities of others.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: zsp on October 20, 2014, 01:50:06 AM
Truly crazy place became this Bitcointalk forum, and I am not comfortable with these money collection ICOs at all.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 20, 2014, 02:02:01 AM
Truly crazy place became this Bitcointalk forum, and I am not comfortable with these money collection ICOs at all.

Please visit www.breakoutcoin.com (http://www.breakoutcoin.com) when you have time


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: ownerbest on October 20, 2014, 02:53:56 AM
Truly crazy place became this Bitcointalk forum, and I am not comfortable with these money collection ICOs at all.

Please visit www.breakoutcoin.com (http://www.breakoutcoin.com) when you have time
I can not access the website now,


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 20, 2014, 03:00:34 AM
Truly crazy place became this Bitcointalk forum, and I am not comfortable with these money collection ICOs at all.

Please visit www.breakoutcoin.com (http://www.breakoutcoin.com) when you have time
I can not access the website now,

I just found that out... I am trying to get  hold of pertinent people.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 20, 2014, 03:31:42 AM
Truly crazy place became this Bitcointalk forum, and I am not comfortable with these money collection ICOs at all.

Please visit www.breakoutcoin.com (http://www.breakoutcoin.com) when you have time
I can not access the website now,

I just found that out... I am trying to get  hold of pertinent people.

Domain being moved....


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 20, 2014, 03:45:00 AM
We are in transition to get the actual Coin Sale website in place.  You can still reach our informational page on fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: illodin on October 20, 2014, 03:45:07 AM
It could be very interesting for futur investors to know how much devs already put in there project. It could bring confidence. Devs said they put lot of money in this, is it real? If they have nothing to hide, they can say this no problem there. I challenge you to find investors to give you money for a project without asking you how much you have already put in !!

Can we expect any details about this? Thanks.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 20, 2014, 04:14:05 AM
It could be very interesting for futur investors to know how much devs already put in there project. It could bring confidence. Devs said they put lot of money in this, is it real? If they have nothing to hide, they can say this no problem there. I challenge you to find investors to give you money for a project without asking you how much you have already put in !!

Can we expect any details about this? Thanks.

I personally was originally hired as a consultant to design the coin. Was paid going hourly rate... they also have many outside software firms and consultants.

There are top notch lawyers, security experts. not to mention the design and marketing team. lots software being custom developed, some being white labeled..lot of real skilled humans involved.

 :) :) :) :)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jibble on October 20, 2014, 04:51:50 AM
When will berg stake be able to begin to start earning?

because someone mentioned here having to wait 2 years before it stakes, but on the front page it says "33% 7 million – Mined during PoW phase + Bergstake "on the distribution of bro after 2 years" so surely if you are taking into account berg stake in the first 2 years then they canbe staked before 2 years


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutCoin on October 20, 2014, 05:49:10 AM
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/brotechnicalspecs.jpg


CryptoNote Clone
Bitcoin Clone
PoW / Proof-of-Bergstake hybrid.
Block Time Target: 3 minutes
PoW Phase: 2 years, 7 million coins, ~19.98 BRO block reward
BotlessNight x13 Hashing Algorithm
Difficulty Retarget: CryptoNote Adaptive Limits Gravity Wave
PoB  Phase: perpetual, 2 million coins annually ~11.42 BRO block reward
SHA256 hashing after PoW ends.
200 million+ total coins
14 million coin Pre-Mine (< 7%)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 20, 2014, 06:02:46 AM
When will berg stake be able to begin to start earning?

because someone mentioned here having to wait 2 years before it stakes, but on the front page it says "33% 7 million – Mined during PoW phase + Bergstake "on the distribution of bro after 2 years" so surely if you are taking into account berg stake in the first 2 years then they canbe staked before 2 years

the coin switches from proof-of-work to proof-of-bergstake after 2 years.. the statement is referring to the 7 million coins that are mined also have bergstake...


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jd1959 on October 20, 2014, 06:46:06 AM
When will berg stake be able to begin to start earning?

because someone mentioned here having to wait 2 years before it stakes, but on the front page it says "33% 7 million – Mined during PoW phase + Bergstake "on the distribution of bro after 2 years" so surely if you are taking into account berg stake in the first 2 years then they canbe staked before 2 years

the coin switches from proof-of-work to proof-of-bergstake after 2 years.. the statement is referring to the 7 million coins that are mined also have bergstake...
So if I buy mined coin can i have bergstake..or do have to mine it?

Jon


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: tobeaj2mer01 on October 20, 2014, 07:28:36 AM
Is there anything new of this coin, can someone brief it?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: ofortuna on October 20, 2014, 07:29:12 AM
When will berg stake be able to begin to start earning?

because someone mentioned here having to wait 2 years before it stakes, but on the front page it says "33% 7 million – Mined during PoW phase + Bergstake "on the distribution of bro after 2 years" so surely if you are taking into account berg stake in the first 2 years then they canbe staked before 2 years

the coin switches from proof-of-work to proof-of-bergstake after 2 years.. the statement is referring to the 7 million coins that are mined also have bergstake...
So if I buy mined coin can i have bergstake..or do have to mine it?

Jon


Hi jd1959,

If you mine a Breakout Coin or purchase at the Coin Sale, you will have Bergstake + coins.  If you sell those coins, you will still retain your Bergstake.

So if you buy mined coin, you will have the coin and not the Bergstake.



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jd1959 on October 20, 2014, 07:57:22 AM
When will berg stake be able to begin to start earning?

because someone mentioned here having to wait 2 years before it stakes, but on the front page it says "33% 7 million – Mined during PoW phase + Bergstake "on the distribution of bro after 2 years" so surely if you are taking into account berg stake in the first 2 years then they canbe staked before 2 years

the coin switches from proof-of-work to proof-of-bergstake after 2 years.. the statement is referring to the 7 million coins that are mined also have bergstake...
So if I buy mined coin can i have bergstake..or do have to mine it?

Jon


Hi jd1959,

If you mine a Breakout Coin or purchase at the Coin Sale, you will have Bergstake + coins.  If you sell those coins, you will still retain your Bergstake.

So if you buy mined coin, you will have the coin and not the Bergstake.


Thank you for your reply. Makes it look like a no brainier....just wait till after launch and mine a few

Jon  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: negerkolle on October 20, 2014, 08:43:24 AM
From your Pre-Ann thread:

Quote from: BreakoutGaming
In the meantime, we will be asking for feedback and suggestions as well as any constructive criticism on our breakout forum @forum.breakoutcoin.com.  There will be a bounty of 100 BRO for people who participate.

I did this a month ago, but no one have even acknowledged my feedback and your forum seems dead. Hope you keep your word on this.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Groker on October 20, 2014, 08:50:11 AM
If the encryption wallet Bergstake will work?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: J9901 on October 20, 2014, 09:24:30 AM
Thanks for deleting every solid criticism posted in this topic dev.

Spreading the word about this scam.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jd1959 on October 20, 2014, 09:29:38 AM
If the encryption wallet Bergstake will work?
We'll know in two years, surely that's enough time to debug

Jon


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 20, 2014, 09:38:41 AM
ANNOUNCEMENT:

An additional 1 million BRO coins will be added to the "coin sale" pool for a total if 5.5 million instead of 4.5 million.  All coins come with Bergstake.  Giveaway for promotions will be reduced to 6 million coins from 7 million.  The plan is to burn the Bergstake attached to the giveaways, which will give early investors in the "coin sale" a larger percentage of the pie when Proof-of-Bergstake begins.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 20, 2014, 09:41:15 AM
Thanks for deleting every solid criticism posted in this topic dev.

Spreading the word about this scam.

quit your FUD and do some research before posting stupid shit.  ive been scammed before and this is not one.  this is the first time i will be investing in a long time fter i got burned by a few coins and exchanges.  this is the most well thought and prepared coin ive seen in a long long time.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Ge on October 20, 2014, 09:45:58 AM
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/brotechnicalspecs.jpg


CryptoNote Clone
Bitcoin Clone
PoW / Proof-of-Bergstake hybrid.
Block Time Target: 3 minutes
PoW Phase: 2 years, 7 million coins, ~19.98 BRO block reward
BotlessNight x13 Hashing Algorithm
Difficulty Retarget: CryptoNote Adaptive Limits Gravity Wave
PoB  Phase: perpetual, 2 million coins annually ~11.42 BRO block reward
SHA256 hashing after PoW ends.
200 million+ total coins
14 million coin Pre-Mine (< 7%)


Is the Coin still only CPU minable ?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: helloge on October 20, 2014, 09:51:34 AM
ANNOUNCEMENT:

An additional 1 million BRO coins will be added to the "coin sale" pool for a total if 5.5 million instead of 4.5 million.  All coins come with Bergstake.  Giveaway for promotions will be reduced to 6 million coins from 7 million.  The plan is to burn the Bergstake attached to the giveaways, which will give early investors in the "coin sale" a larger percentage of the pie when Proof-of-Bergstake begins.
still presale or ICO for this coin?
I will watch this.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: btcsnippers on October 20, 2014, 11:33:38 AM
If i understand correctly , we are not the first wave of investors.
The real investors actually own the company , those pokerpro's probably own a %age.
We are here to give them their money back in advance and pay for the marketing.
The only benifit for us is the bergstake wich to me is not clear how much(or how) this will generate in profits for me btc/invested-vs-bergstake.
now the pool owners will get all the bergstake from the miners thats gonna be 2-5 people with a shitload of bergstake very flawed.
We are basicly the first batch of customers to their site that are buying bro coins to get some distribution started.
We get none of the profits from the company that runs the gaming network we can only hope the price will go up to make money Auwch.
We are just getting some airmiles for getting in on the testflight.(bergstake)

If this is incorrect please explain it to me so i can invest.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: xizmax on October 20, 2014, 11:36:33 AM
ANNOUNCEMENT:

An additional 1 million BRO coins will be added to the "coin sale" pool for a total if 5.5 million instead of 4.5 million.  All coins come with Bergstake.  Giveaway for promotions will be reduced to 6 million coins from 7 million.  The plan is to burn the Bergstake attached to the giveaways, which will give early investors in the "coin sale" a larger percentage of the pie when Proof-of-Bergstake begins.

Burning of the bergstake seems like a decent move

http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/brotechnicalspecs.jpg


CryptoNote Clone
Bitcoin Clone
PoW / Proof-of-Bergstake hybrid.
Block Time Target: 3 minutes
PoW Phase: 2 years, 7 million coins, ~19.98 BRO block reward
BotlessNight x13 Hashing Algorithm
Difficulty Retarget: CryptoNote Adaptive Limits Gravity Wave
PoB  Phase: perpetual, 2 million coins annually ~11.42 BRO block reward
SHA256 hashing after PoW ends.
200 million+ total coins
14 million coin Pre-Mine (< 7%)


Hmm, switch to X13 - have mixed feelings about this one


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Groker on October 20, 2014, 12:05:38 PM
X13 - Domination by Mining Farms operations  :-[

PoW Phase:  3-4 months


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Groker on October 20, 2014, 12:56:05 PM
If the encryption wallet Bergstake will work?
We'll know in two years, surely that's enough time to debug

Jon
In wallet is a function of "Encrypt Wallet"
In other coins with encrypted wallet PoS does not work.
And your wallet turns out also will not work PoB with "Encrypt Wallet"?

(Sorry for my English)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Kuriso on October 20, 2014, 03:02:00 PM
X13 - Domination by Mining Farms operations  :-[

PoW Phase:  3-4 months

Yes, any of those 'X' algorithms are dominated by huge mining farms.  What about a coin base like Myraid coin?  We'll have the option to mine Scrypt, SHA256D, Qubit, Skein or Myriad-Groestl.

Quote
How it works
Each proof of work algorithm has its own independent difficulty.
Any algorithm can find the next block.
All the algorithms use the same difficulty adjustment method.
On average, each algorithm has the same chance of finding the next block.
Each algorithm aims for a block generation time of 2.5 minutes.
Over the five algorithms, a block should be found on average every 30 seconds.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 20, 2014, 03:17:59 PM
Thanks for deleting every solid criticism posted in this topic dev.

Spreading the word about this scam.

You need to read the thread first before posting this...  Solid criticisms are not deleted as far as i know.  Newbie accounts created solely for the purpose of spreading FUD are not tolerated. 


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 20, 2014, 03:28:12 PM
X13 - Domination by Mining Farms operations  :-[

PoW Phase:  3-4 months

A short PoW phase will not help with the coins distribution.
Ongoing discussion with dev about algo...


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 20, 2014, 03:33:45 PM
If the encryption wallet Bergstake will work?
We'll know in two years, surely that's enough time to debug

Jon
In wallet is a function of "Encrypt Wallet"
In other coins with encrypted wallet PoS does not work.
And your wallet turns out also will not work PoB with "Encrypt Wallet"?

(Sorry for my English)

There have been staking problems with most of the PoS coins due to constant copy/paste and lack of understanding of the underlying code.  We have complete confidence in Jay, our chief CTO.  He is the brains behind Bergstake, after all.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 20, 2014, 03:44:24 PM
If the encryption wallet Bergstake will work?
We'll know in two years, surely that's enough time to debug

Jon
In wallet is a function of "Encrypt Wallet"
In other coins with encrypted wallet PoS does not work.
And your wallet turns out also will not work PoB with "Encrypt Wallet"?

(Sorry for my English)

PoB you actually have to provide a proof, just like PoW. im not familiar with the Encrypted wallet issue, but yes at some point you need to access private-key for PoB


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 20, 2014, 03:48:14 PM
X13 - Domination by Mining Farms operations  :-[

PoW Phase:  3-4 months

Yes, any of those 'X' algorithms are dominated by huge mining farms.  What about a coin base like Myraid coin?  We'll have the option to mine Scrypt, SHA256D, Qubit, Skein or Myriad-Groestl.

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How it works
Each proof of work algorithm has its own independent difficulty.
Any algorithm can find the next block.
All the algorithms use the same difficulty adjustment method.
On average, each algorithm has the same chance of finding the next block.
Each algorithm aims for a block generation time of 2.5 minutes.
Over the five algorithms, a block should be found on average every 30 seconds.

Changing algos is a good idea. has anyone tried using CryptoNight with a bitcoin clone?

After ICO , and before launch we will have a full on miners thread and deliver best practices with latest innovations.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 20, 2014, 03:50:14 PM

Hmm, switch to X13 - have mixed feelings about this one

i no longer trust CryptoNote, however CryptoNight may still work within bitcoin clone. 


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 20, 2014, 03:52:03 PM
Thanks for deleting every solid criticism posted in this topic dev.

Spreading the word about this scam.

You need to read the thread first before posting this...  Solid criticisms are not deleted as far as i know.  Newbie accounts created solely for the purpose of spreading FUD are not tolerated. 

whats being deleted? prove it.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: ofortuna on October 20, 2014, 05:20:04 PM
http://i.imgur.com/xbxWtzF.jpg?1


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 20, 2014, 05:54:11 PM
When will berg stake be able to begin to start earning?

because someone mentioned here having to wait 2 years before it stakes, but on the front page it says "33% 7 million – Mined during PoW phase + Bergstake "on the distribution of bro after 2 years" so surely if you are taking into account berg stake in the first 2 years then they canbe staked before 2 years

the coin switches from proof-of-work to proof-of-bergstake after 2 years.. the statement is referring to the 7 million coins that are mined also have bergstake...
So if I buy mined coin can i have bergstake..or do have to mine it?

Jon


bergstake can only be bought in the ICO, becuase it gets into the genesis block. bergstake can be obtained via mining. when buying mined coins you get Breakoutcoins, but the miner retains the Bergstake.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 20, 2014, 06:48:18 PM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 20, 2014, 06:56:35 PM
So not only does this coin have an insanely huge 'premine' that screws initial investors in a way, it also seems like the one guy defending this coin lately has negative trust. Were are all the followers from Facebook? As far as I know, this is the only forum for BRO discussion. I can understand if there was another one, but there doesn't seem to be another...so with all those FB followers, where are they? More importantly, where are these CELEBRITIES? Is there any concrete proof that they're associated with BRO?

Yea, im real stoked to buy some BRO now.

Also, some of the BRO ads could use better photoshop skills. Seriously.

And contrary to what people have been saying, those Poker tables look like crap. Seriously go to any online Poker website and even their most basic ones are leagues beyond these crap previews weve gotten so far. They look like the were made using Windows Paint.

Surprised to hear that J9901.  You are the only person to knock the graphics used in our project.  In fact we've had nothing but compliments about all the visuals contained in our project which was expected considering our graphic artists numerous awards.
 
Honors & Awards
26 Promax Awards
3 Emmy Awards
3 Addy Awards
1 Mashable Global Finalist "Best Social Media Agency"
7 BDA Awards
1 PRSA Gold
2 PRSA Silver Anvils
1 PRSA Bronze Anvil
2 Sabre Award Finalists
3 Addy Awards
3 Key Art Awards
2 AP Broadcasting Awards
2 CMA Broadcast Awards
1 Media Innovations Award
1 Mobius Gold Award
1 IAC Gold Best Digital Campaign

Google him if you wish. Bonner Bellew.  He is also an equity shareholder.  Sorry you don't like our stuff but most would agree you'll find none finer



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 20, 2014, 07:53:38 PM
ux looks awesome dude! will be waiting with my bitcoins  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 20, 2014, 08:26:19 PM
ux looks awesome dude! will be waiting with my bitcoins  ;D

Mayhem, thanks for the contribution and welcome to the Breakout Community!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jd1959 on October 20, 2014, 08:46:02 PM
I don't understand the need for such a large ICO 8-15k BTC, You clearly state that all this work has been done over the last year or so, besides some marketing. It looks like some of the marketing has been done if you

already have 40k+ followers on facebook. I'm not trying to fud here, just why would I spend BTC on uncapped ICO when I can just wait and mine if the maths add up. I can't see any reason to do it any other way. Also

no firm commitment to algorithm used for mining. As for POB and encrypted wallet, it should be like others you only unlock for staking. It seems like a nice idea but I think you've spent more time on the gambling than on

the crypto, and we're all crypto here, some will also be gamblers. Anyway I'm watching thread with interest wondering how far the money that's in existing alts can spread.

Are you trying to raise funds in the real world as well? Please don't answer this with "we want to give crypto people a chance blah blah blah" I'd love to see someone try to raise funds in real world as well as crypto

At least we'd know that you face real penalties in the real world if we get screwed here in cryptoland

Jon  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: JakeThePanda on October 20, 2014, 08:50:23 PM

This isn't really true right?   :D I'm mean, for you guys it's true.  On Tuesday your (The Breakout Team's) bitcoins will arrive in the form of us using BTC to buy breakoutcoins, but our coins won't arrive for another 30 days.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 20, 2014, 09:07:34 PM

This isn't really true right?   :D I'm mean, for you guys it's true.  On Tuesday your (The Breakout Team's) bitcoins will arrive in the form of us using BTC to buy breakoutcoins, but our coins won't arrive for another 30 days.

yes you are correct.. marketing guys....


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 20, 2014, 09:08:42 PM
If i understand correctly , we are not the first wave of investors.
The real investors actually own the company , those pokerpro's probably own a %age.
We are here to give them their money back in advance and pay for the marketing.
The only benifit for us is the bergstake wich to me is not clear how much(or how) this will generate in profits for me btc/invested-vs-bergstake.
now the pool owners will get all the bergstake from the miners thats gonna be 2-5 people with a shitload of bergstake very flawed.
We are basicly the first batch of customers to their site that are buying bro coins to get some distribution started.
We get none of the profits from the company that runs the gaming network we can only hope the price will go up to make money Auwch.
We are just getting some airmiles for getting in on the testflight.(bergstake)

If this is incorrect please explain it to me so i can invest.


the coin is being used in a new and unique way. by having the gaming company denominate all its chips in breakoutcoins, it will be required, by regulator, to hold breakoutcoins to match all deposits and and to pay out prizes.

so as the gaming company grows, and receives more and more fiat deposits, it will be buying and holding more and more breakoutcoins. in addition, breakoutcoins can be used to lay any of the games directly.

so there is a use case and a liquidity case.
 


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jaybny on October 20, 2014, 09:14:57 PM
I don't understand the need for such a large ICO 8-15k BTC, You clearly state that all this work has been done over the last year or so, besides some marketing. It looks like some of the marketing has been done if you

take a look at fanduel and draftkings... they spend millions in marketing each week.

Quote
already have 40k+ followers on facebook. I'm not trying to fud here, just why would I spend BTC on uncapped ICO when I can just wait and mine if the maths add up. I can't see any reason to do it any other way. Also

many expected investors are non bitcoiners and are just not interested in mining.

Quote
no firm commitment to algorithm used for mining. As for POB and encrypted wallet, it should be like others you only unlock for staking. It seems like a nice idea but I think you've spent more time on the gambling than on

the crypto, and we're all crypto here, some will also be gamblers. Anyway I'm watching thread with interest wondering how far the money that's in existing alts can spread.

this is not just a pure general currency coin, its more like 2.0

Quote
Are you trying to raise funds in the real world as well? Please don't answer this with "we want to give crypto people a chance blah blah blah" I'd love to see someone try to raise funds in real world as well as crypto

At least we'd know that you face real penalties in the real world if we get screwed here in cryptoland
Jon  ;)


lots of investment already in the project, no turning back.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: ofortuna on October 20, 2014, 09:28:07 PM

This isn't really true right?   :D I'm mean, for you guys it's true.  On Tuesday your (The Breakout Team's) bitcoins will arrive in the form of us using BTC to buy breakoutcoins, but our coins won't arrive for another 30 days.

Hey Jake, the meme just says the Coin Sale will start  ;D ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Rayban34 on October 20, 2014, 09:36:22 PM
Hi BRO's,

I am in two minds here. I have a stash that I have been saving purely for this ICO, however some of the more skeptical people in this thread have raised a few note-worthy points. So, before I make my decision on whether to invest in this project or invest in another really interesting ICO that's happening right now, could you highlight why my bitcoin would be better in your pockets? It's not much in the grand scheme of things but it is a lot to me, thanks.

What would the real benefits of holding some BRO's. What would it get me? What can I do with them? And are your e-sports limited to poker? Or what else have you in the pipeline. I feel answering these question would significantly help me with my decision thanks! :)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 20, 2014, 09:41:16 PM
I don't understand the need for such a large ICO 8-15k BTC, You clearly state that all this work has been done over the last year or so, besides some marketing. It looks like some of the marketing has been done if you

take a look at fanduel and draftkings... they spend millions in marketing each week.

Quote
already have 40k+ followers on facebook. I'm not trying to fud here, just why would I spend BTC on uncapped ICO when I can just wait and mine if the maths add up. I can't see any reason to do it any other way. Also

many expected investors are non bitcoiners and are just not interested in mining.

Quote
no firm commitment to algorithm used for mining. As for POB and encrypted wallet, it should be like others you only unlock for staking. It seems like a nice idea but I think you've spent more time on the gambling than on

the crypto, and we're all crypto here, some will also be gamblers. Anyway I'm watching thread with interest wondering how far the money that's in existing alts can spread.

this is not just a pure general currency coin, its more like 2.0

Quote
Are you trying to raise funds in the real world as well? Please don't answer this with "we want to give crypto people a chance blah blah blah" I'd love to see someone try to raise funds in real world as well as crypto

At least we'd know that you face real penalties in the real world if we get screwed here in cryptoland
Jon  ;)


lots of investment already in the project, no turning back.

All money raised so far has been from the real world


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Kuriso on October 20, 2014, 09:45:49 PM
How will this gaming platform work for USA citizens?  Are there any regulations for us?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 20, 2014, 09:47:22 PM
I don't understand the need for such a large ICO 8-15k BTC, You clearly state that all this work has been done over the last year or so, besides some marketing. It looks like some of the marketing has been done if you

already have 40k+ followers on facebook. I'm not trying to fud here, just why would I spend BTC on uncapped ICO when I can just wait and mine if the maths add up. I can't see any reason to do it any other way. Also

no firm commitment to algorithm used for mining. As for POB and encrypted wallet, it should be like others you only unlock for staking. It seems like a nice idea but I think you've spent more time on the gambling than on

the crypto, and we're all crypto here, some will also be gamblers. Anyway I'm watching thread with interest wondering how far the money that's in existing alts can spread.

Are you trying to raise funds in the real world as well? Please don't answer this with "we want to give crypto people a chance blah blah blah" I'd love to see someone try to raise funds in real world as well as crypto

At least we'd know that you face real penalties in the real world if we get screwed here in cryptoland

Jon  ;)

jd1959,  Thanks for your contribution and you have very valid questions.  We have stated that most of the incoming funds will be used towards marketing.  The 6 million coin giveaway is part of that equation also.  To really gain mass adoption, the amount of "fiat" needed to penetrate the various markets we will be entering is a huge sum.  If you research Pokerstars, Fanduel, Draftkings etc.. you will find that 10 million is just the beginning of a complete marketing budget.  Breakout has a huge advantage because we can use the "BRO" instead of "fiat" to draw players in for player acquisition.  However, marketing and advertising
cost goes way beyond just bonuses and freerolls. BRO "coin sale" proceeds will be used to market the BRO coin.

We plan on using "pro athletes" and persuade other gaming operators to accept BRO on their platforms in the near future.  We are preparing servers and data center that can handle over 100,000 users at a time.  Customer support and service for this type pf enterprise is costly.  Yes, we will be looking for institutional investors after the "coin sale" if that makes sense for the long-term growth of the BRO coin.

Ultimately, the goal is mass adoption of our coin across the gaming universe.  Being properly funded can only help the growth of BRO.  If the intention is to hold the coin and quickly dump the BRO after it hits the market, then some of our plans may not align with yours.  Remember, on Breakout Gaming's platforms they must buy the equivalent of BRO in reserve to match the amount of BRO chips being used at the tables.  Breakout Gaming and the gamers they can attract as live money players will nned to purchase BRO chips denominated in BRO coin.  Bergstake is just an added bonus that you will receive over the life of the coin. You can sell your BRO and still maintain a long-term interest stake in the success of BRO.

We will be entering the gaming space supported by major pro players.  That's just the beginning, we will continually be adding Brand Ambassadors throughout the process.  We will be the first gaming operator in the crypto universe to be fully licensed and regulated and accept both crypto and fiat.  We will have access to the Fantasy Sports fans, eSports fans, Poker, Casino, etc.. If we are able to sell the story of crypto to the gaming universe and teach them the value of using crypto instead of fiat, the sky is the limit.  As of now, we are planning to sign up 750k registered users over the next two years.  When that happens, the BRO and Bergstake should be rewarding for all the early adopters.

BRO advances the cause of crytpos and makes it easy and accessible to the general population.  We are one of the first coin model that will actually "bring fiat" into the crypto market, rather than decimate btc and other alts to support us.  Breakout Gaming will bring "fiat" flowing into BRO and hopefully lend support to the rest of the crypto community as well.

Disclaimer: Breakout Coin and Breakout Gaming are two separate services/entities.  Breakout Coin is offering BRO coins for btc. By participating in this "coin sale," you are not purchasing interest in Breakout Gaming.  You are solely participating in the "coin sale" of a crypto coin that happens to have a gaming company that supports the BRO coin by having their chips denominated in the BRO crypto coin.

As specified in the first paragraph in the Terms and Conditions:

WARNING:  Do not purchase BRO if you are not an expert in crypto tokens or currency and blockchain technology.

This coin sale is not an offer of investment or securities in any business, venture, or company, or in any form of gaming operations or activity; purchase of BRO does not entitle the buyer to any interest in any profits or revenue of any common enterprise arising from the activities of others.




Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 20, 2014, 09:54:08 PM
How will this gaming platform work for USA citizens?  Are there any regulations for us?

Only Fantasy Sports and other skill based games will be available in the US.  We will be only offering specific games where it is legal to play. 

Fantasy Sports is the largest growing segment of the gaming industry and money is pouring into this space at a rapid rate.

Fantasy Sports that will be offered; NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB, GOLF and Nascar

Never before seen Fantasy Games that we are proud to introduce to the crypto community is Fantasy eSports and Fantasy Crypto.
These games will allow the entire eSports industry to participate in the crypto evolution.  The Fantasy Crypto game will allow people that like to research and bet on alternative currencies, to out-strategize their opponents and use their knowledge to win more crypto.

In the future we hope to add Fantasy UFC and Fantasy eXtreme sports.

Market Opportunity

• $41.4B online gaming market 2015
• Dota2 – 800,000 concurrent daily players
• League of Legends (LOL) – 67 million players
• Poker – 40 million players
• Fantasy Sports – 42 million players


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jibble on October 20, 2014, 10:51:57 PM
If i understand correctly , we are not the first wave of investors.
The real investors actually own the company , those pokerpro's probably own a %age.
We are here to give them their money back in advance and pay for the marketing.
The only benifit for us is the bergstake wich to me is not clear how much(or how) this will generate in profits for me btc/invested-vs-bergstake.
now the pool owners will get all the bergstake from the miners thats gonna be 2-5 people with a shitload of bergstake very flawed.
We are basicly the first batch of customers to their site that are buying bro coins to get some distribution started.
We get none of the profits from the company that runs the gaming network we can only hope the price will go up to make money Auwch.
We are just getting some airmiles for getting in on the testflight.(bergstake)

If this is incorrect please explain it to me so i can invest.


the coin is being used in a new and unique way. by having the gaming company denominate all its chips in breakoutcoins, it will be required, by regulator, to hold breakoutcoins to match all deposits and and to pay out prizes.

so as the gaming company grows, and receives more and more fiat deposits, it will be buying and holding more and more breakoutcoins. in addition, breakoutcoins can be used to lay any of the games directly.

so there is a use case and a liquidity case.
 

I think it would safe to say also adding the BTC deposits as well? to that analogy


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: ray88 on October 20, 2014, 11:26:13 PM
Please Bro not a ''X'' coin !!!!!!!

edit: XMG's algo M7M looks very nice mini blockchain + cpu only


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 20, 2014, 11:48:18 PM
Hi BRO's,

I am in two minds here. I have a stash that I have been saving purely for this ICO, however some of the more skeptical people in this thread have raised a few note-worthy points. So, before I make my decision on whether to invest in this project or invest in another really interesting ICO that's happening right now, could you highlight why my bitcoin would be better in your pockets? It's not much in the grand scheme of things but it is a lot to me, thanks.

What would the real benefits of holding some BRO's. What would it get me? What can I do with them? And are your e-sports limited to poker? Or what else have you in the pipeline. I feel answering these question would significantly help me with my decision thanks! :)

Rayban314,  we thank you for taking our "coin sale" for your consideration. Here are the main points why we feel that the "crowd sale" would benefit early investors such as yourself.

1.  Bergstake - The right to "virtual mine" with no energy costs or equipment costs cannot be understated.  You will have the ability to sell all your initial BRO coins you invested in the "crowd sale," for a potential profit and still maintain a free-roll for the life of the BRO coin as you and the other Bergstake owners will be the only ones that can earn additional Bergstake in the future after the PoW period is over.

2.  Breakout Gaming supports BRO coin in a $40Bn industry.  Breakout Gaming will be the first crypto company that is fully licensed and regulated that will be able to accept "fiat" processing,  This opens the door for BRO to be used and marketed worldwide to the general population as never seen before with crypto gaming sites. If Breakout Gaming using BRO coin even penetrates a small share of that market, then the sky is the limit for the value of BRO and Bergstake.

3.  Over 50% to 70% of all transactions on the crypto blockchain has been gaming/gambling related.  It has been proven that gaming is the best case use for crypto currencies.  The inherent technology in cryptocurrencies are tailor-made for gaming.  Fast, easy transaction.  Limited or zero fees, ability to transfer money across the world, no need for expansive banking systems and credit cards systems that many countries do not provide, the ability for players all over the world to transfer and play each other in a common denominated currency.  Once crypto enters this gaming space and allows the freedom and ease of use that current systems cannot provide, we feel that BRO supported by Breakout Gaming, can really be a game changer.

4.  The "coin sale" will be the only time you can actually buy Bergstake.  After the "coin sale" ends, the only way to acquire Bergstake is through PoW mining.

5.  You will be getting in on the ground floor of what we feel is going to be a revolution in gaming.  Crypto and Gaming is the future.

6.  As the user base grows over the years, the amount of reserves of BRO, Breakout Gaming needs to hold to match the chips in play, will hopefully grow to the tens of millions, supplying a natural demand and liquidity for the the owners and investors of BRO coin.

7.  This will be the first time, there will be a strong community of recognizable celebrities backing and using the coin.  There will be a multi-million dollar marketing campaign to penetrate the general population and gain mass awareness for BRO.

8.  This will be one of the very, very few crypto projects that actually "brings more "fiat" into the crypto markets.  A significant portion of our processing will be strictly "fiat."  Hopefully, fiat will flow into our gaming platforms as well as the bitcoin and alternate communities.  All other projects gained by taking from bitcoin or other alternative currencies.  In the long run, we will be helping the entire crypto community grow.

9.  Project already has significant capital invested in it.  Not a whitepaper or theoretical fundraiser.  Established and reputable management team.  

Disclaimer: Breakout Coin and Breakout Gaming are two separate services/entities.  Breakout Coin is offering BRO coins for btc. By participating in this "coin sale," you are not purchasing interest in Breakout Gaming.  You are solely participating in the "coin sale" of a crypto coin that happens to have a gaming company that supports the BRO coin by having their chips denominated in the BRO crypto coin.

As specified in the first paragraph in the Terms and Conditions:

WARNING:  Do not purchase BRO if you are not an expert in crypto tokens or currency and blockchain technology.

This coin sale is not an offer of investment or securities in any business, venture, or company, or in any form of gaming operations or activity; purchase of BRO does not entitle the buyer to any interest in any profits or revenue of any common enterprise arising from the activities of others.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 21, 2014, 12:23:05 AM
heck, im so excited bout bro, this one is going to be historical!  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: SRBOOTH on October 21, 2014, 12:29:46 AM
A question regarding poker..... What software platform do you intend to use for poker? Many of theses have been provably suspect. I am a long time live and online player, in fact some of the celebrities you are mentioning have been involved in such questionable dealings. Please provide us potential investors/users with poker platform developer info.
  
This is of course assuming that the point of this is to control the gaming platforms. I am not trying to sound negative, you will find many intelligent people here who are used to open source content and will always question legitimacy.

My paranoid side tells me that even though your crypto development may be solid and legitimate, your edge is likely found as playing the "house". I read a reference within these posts to skill games, without peer review of software how is it provably fair. "GODMODE" is every players worst fear, so please provide us some answers regarding the possibility that we may be duped at the tables and not necessarily at the exchange.

I wish you luck and success, I appreciate what work you have presented.........just......convince me.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: drkman on October 21, 2014, 12:59:52 AM
1.  You need a solution ASAP to the problem of mining pool owners getting all of the Bergstake.

Why the heck would anyone mine this if you have use a pool to mine effectively and if that pool owner was the only one who gained the benefit!!?  The only ones would be the ignorant masses who haven't realized that they are simply paying to mine Bergstake for another person.  PLEASE FIND A SOLUTION TO THIS BEFORE LAUNCH.

2.  Try to choose the algo that is the most difficult for GPU mining farms to exploit.  Not sure if we have hard trustable data on this at the moment or even if it matters because can't any GPU mining farms easily mine anything that an individual GPU can mine?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jd1959 on October 21, 2014, 01:00:43 AM
Thanks for all the replies to my previous post. One further question, in what country will the company be registered please?

Jon


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 21, 2014, 01:45:30 AM
A question regarding poker..... What software platform do you intend to use for poker? Many of theses have been provably suspect. I am a long time live and online player, in fact some of the celebrities you are mentioning have been involved in such questionable dealings. Please provide us potential investors/users with poker platform developer info.
  
This is of course assuming that the point of this is to control the gaming platforms. I am not trying to sound negative, you will find many intelligent people here who are used to open source content and will always question legitimacy.

My paranoid side tells me that even though your crypto development may be solid and legitimate, your edge is likely found as playing the "house". I read a reference within these posts to skill games, without peer review of software how is it provably fair. "GODMODE" is every players worst fear, so please provide us some answers regarding the possibility that we may be duped at the tables and not necessarily at the exchange.

I wish you luck and success, I appreciate what work you have presented.........just......convince me.

SRBOOTH, Excellent questions, we are glad you brought these to the forefront.  Without revealing too much confidential information on a public forum, we can tell you that we are working with a third party software development team with a set of excellent top software engineers that worked previously with companies such as Party Poker, Gtech and Playtech. 

RNG and software was certified by itech labs as well as GLI (tst labs).  We have been making major modifications and updates over the past year for the software, so when completed we will have to get re-certified by both labs before launch.  In addition, when the software is complete we will be hiring an independent software auditing company to check for backdoors and "godmode."  We understand the concerns the poker and gaming  community have over potential fraudulent activity and hope the crypto community will give us a chance to show that we will be transparent as possible.  The certificates and independent audit will be made available to the public immediately after we get certified. WE WILL NOT LAUNCH WITHOUT PROVIDING THESE CERTIFICATIONS TO THE PUBLIC.

We do understand your concerns about potential accusations of the poker pros, but we can tell you the ones remaining on our team all have been potential victims by bad management. We can tell you it was very difficult to get a lot of these pros on board, specifically because of the bad press some of them have received because of their association with a company they had no control over.  On top of that, we had to convince them to accept "computer code" instead of cash.  Many of them were paid millions for their previous endorsement deals.  Imagine how that conversation went.

After telling them our story, they became believers in the future of cryptocurrency and gaming.  All the marketing pros are in this project 100% and want to advance the cause of cryptos to gain mass adoption by the general population. FYI, we cut a lot of our initial Team of pros because of potential activities that would not bring this project into a good light.  A lot of the pros current pros are friends of management and very well known in the poker circles.  Although not all of them are the most popular in the community, absolutely none of the players on our team are known in the inner circle of high limit players as someone that would knowingly get involved in fraudulent activity. 


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Randy M Kim on October 21, 2014, 01:46:45 AM
ux looks awesome dude! will be waiting with my bitcoins  ;D

Glad you like it Mayhem


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 21, 2014, 01:53:44 AM
1.  You need a solution ASAP to the problem of mining pool owners getting all of the Bergstake.

Why the heck would anyone mine this if you have use a pool to mine effectively and if that pool owner was the only one who gained the benefit!!?  The only ones would be the ignorant masses who haven't realized that they are simply paying to mine Bergstake for another person.  PLEASE FIND A SOLUTION TO THIS BEFORE LAUNCH.

2.  Try to choose the algo that is the most difficult for GPU mining farms to exploit.  Not sure if we have hard trustable data on this at the moment or even if it matters because can't any GPU mining farms easily mine anything that an individual GPU can mine?

drkman, 1. Current pool technology will not enable this. So the pool operator will keep all the Bergstake, and to compensate, they will have to distribute all or most of the BRO to miners. This is why we are developing a new kind of pool, where when a block is found, all miners will be entered into the coinbase transaction directly. So there will be 100s of outputs. This "feature" will keep pools smaller and less centralized.  A solution will be made available and open-sourced BEFORE LAUNCH.

2.  We just recently scrapped CN because of all the recent controversy behind the algo.  We will definitely be addressing the "mining farm" problem asap.  The devs will open the algo for discussion and Bergstake owners will get a strong say in the final spec.  


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 21, 2014, 01:56:39 AM
Thanks for all the replies to my previous post. One further question, in what country will the company be registered please?

Jon

There will be two separate gaming companies.  One based in US, for the Fantasy Sports and Skill games and one outside USA, for poker, casino, sportsbook and other games not available for US residents.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: JakeThePanda on October 21, 2014, 02:00:01 AM

This isn't really true right?   :D I'm mean, for you guys it's true.  On Tuesday your (The Breakout Team's) bitcoins will arrive in the form of us using BTC to buy breakoutcoins, but our coins won't arrive for another 30 days.

Hey Jake, the meme just says the Coin Sale will start  ;D ;D

Sorry, I don't read so well.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: JakeThePanda on October 21, 2014, 02:01:07 AM
Thanks for all the replies to my previous post. One further question, in what country will the company be registered please?

Jon

There will be two separate gaming companies.  One based in US, for the Fantasy Sports and Skill games and one outside USA, for poker, casino, sportsbook and other games not available for US residents.

That's great because poker is a skill based game.  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: drkman on October 21, 2014, 02:32:30 AM
1.  You need a solution ASAP to the problem of mining pool owners getting all of the Bergstake.

Why the heck would anyone mine this if you have use a pool to mine effectively and if that pool owner was the only one who gained the benefit!!?  The only ones would be the ignorant masses who haven't realized that they are simply paying to mine Bergstake for another person.  PLEASE FIND A SOLUTION TO THIS BEFORE LAUNCH.

2.  Try to choose the algo that is the most difficult for GPU mining farms to exploit.  Not sure if we have hard trustable data on this at the moment or even if it matters because can't any GPU mining farms easily mine anything that an individual GPU can mine?

drkman, 1. Current pool technology will not enable this. So the pool operator will keep all the Bergstake, and to compensate, they will have to distribute all or most of the BRO to miners. This is why we are developing a new kind of pool, where when a block is found, all miners will be entered into the coinbase transaction directly. So there will be 100s of outputs. This "feature" will keep pools smaller and less centralized.  A solution will be made available and open-sourced BEFORE LAUNCH.

2.  We just recently scrapped CN because of all the recent controversy behind the algo.  We will definitely be addressing the "mining farm" problem asap.  The devs will open the algo for discussion and Bergstake owners will get a strong say in the final spec.  

So does your NEW pool you are developing mean the miners themselves will get their PORTION of the bergstake?  Is that what you mean by "entered into the coinbase transaction directly"?  Just want to clarify.



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 21, 2014, 02:32:53 AM
Thanks for all the replies to my previous post. One further question, in what country will the company be registered please?

Jon

There will be two separate gaming companies.  One based in US, for the Fantasy Sports and Skill games and one outside USA, for poker, casino, sportsbook and other games not available for US residents.

That's great because poker is a skill based game.  ;D

HA!  :) poker will not be available in the US, apparently the regulators don't feel the same way as some of us.  Play for free poker will be available and we will also be offering freeroll poker tournaments in the US, so US residents will have equal opportunity to earn the giveaway coins as the rest of the world.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 21, 2014, 02:35:15 AM
1.  You need a solution ASAP to the problem of mining pool owners getting all of the Bergstake.

Why the heck would anyone mine this if you have use a pool to mine effectively and if that pool owner was the only one who gained the benefit!!?  The only ones would be the ignorant masses who haven't realized that they are simply paying to mine Bergstake for another person.  PLEASE FIND A SOLUTION TO THIS BEFORE LAUNCH.

2.  Try to choose the algo that is the most difficult for GPU mining farms to exploit.  Not sure if we have hard trustable data on this at the moment or even if it matters because can't any GPU mining farms easily mine anything that an individual GPU can mine?

drkman, 1. Current pool technology will not enable this. So the pool operator will keep all the Bergstake, and to compensate, they will have to distribute all or most of the BRO to miners. This is why we are developing a new kind of pool, where when a block is found, all miners will be entered into the coinbase transaction directly. So there will be 100s of outputs. This "feature" will keep pools smaller and less centralized.  A solution will be made available and open-sourced BEFORE LAUNCH.

2.  We just recently scrapped CN because of all the recent controversy behind the algo.  We will definitely be addressing the "mining farm" problem asap.  The devs will open the algo for discussion and Bergstake owners will get a strong say in the final spec.  

So does your NEW pool you are developing mean the miners themselves will get their PORTION of the bergstake?  Is that what you mean by "entered into the coinbase transaction directly"?  Just want to clarify.



yes, EXACTLY! The miners themselves will be directly receiving their share of the Bergstake, not the mining pool operators.  This will cause 100s of outputs and therefore keep the pools smaller and less centralized.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 21, 2014, 02:46:03 AM
ANNOUNCEMENT:

An additional 1 million BRO coins will be added to the "coin sale" pool for a total if 5.5 million instead of 4.5 million.  All coins come with Bergstake.  Giveaway for promotions will be reduced to 6 million coins from 7 million.  The plan is to burn the Bergstake attached to the giveaways, which will give early investors in the "coin sale" a larger percentage of the pie when Proof-of-Bergstake begins.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 21, 2014, 02:58:48 AM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: jibble on October 21, 2014, 03:07:14 AM
A question regarding poker..... What software platform do you intend to use for poker? Many of theses have been provably suspect. I am a long time live and online player, in fact some of the celebrities you are mentioning have been involved in such questionable dealings. Please provide us potential investors/users with poker platform developer info.
  
This is of course assuming that the point of this is to control the gaming platforms. I am not trying to sound negative, you will find many intelligent people here who are used to open source content and will always question legitimacy.

My paranoid side tells me that even though your crypto development may be solid and legitimate, your edge is likely found as playing the "house". I read a reference within these posts to skill games, without peer review of software how is it provably fair. "GODMODE" is every players worst fear, so please provide us some answers regarding the possibility that we may be duped at the tables and not necessarily at the exchange.

I wish you luck and success, I appreciate what work you have presented.........just......convince me.

SRBOOTH, Excellent questions, we are glad you brought these to the forefront.  Without revealing too much confidential information on a public forum, we can tell you that we are working with a third party software development team with a set of excellent top software engineers that worked previously with companies such as Party Poker, Gtech and Playtech. 

RNG and software was certified by itech labs as well as GLI (tst labs).  We have been making major modifications and updates over the past year for the software, so when completed we will have to get re-certified by both labs before launch.  In addition, when the software is complete we will be hiring an independent software auditing company to check for backdoors and "godmode."  We understand the concerns the poker and gaming  community have over potential fraudulent activity and hope the crypto community will give us a chance to show that we will be transparent as possible.  The certificates and independent audit will be made available to the public immediately after we get certified. WE WILL NOT LAUNCH WITHOUT PROVIDING THESE CERTIFICATIONS TO THE PUBLIC.

We do understand your concerns about potential accusations of the poker pros, but we can tell you the ones remaining on our team all have been potential victims by bad management. We can tell you it was very difficult to get a lot of these pros on board, specifically because of the bad press some of them have received because of their association with a company they had no control over.  On top of that, we had to convince them to accept "computer code" instead of cash.  Many of them were paid millions for their previous endorsement deals.  Imagine how that conversation went.

After telling them our story, they became believers in the future of cryptocurrency and gaming.  All the marketing pros are in this project 100% and want to advance the cause of cryptos to gain mass adoption by the general population. FYI, we cut a lot of our initial Team of pros because of potential activities that would not bring this project into a good light.  A lot of the pros current pros are friends of management and very well known in the poker circles.  Although not all of them are the most popular in the community, absolutely none of the players on our team are known in the inner circle of high limit players as someone that would knowingly get involved in fraudulent activity. 

Can i guess which poker pro was easiest to convince ?

Layne “Back to Back” Flack

"Layne Flack once bet that a 220-pound man could run a six-minute mile for $250,000. To his dismay, the man’s leg cramped up on the first lap. He also bet $100,000 that Ted Forrest couldn’t bowl a 100 game. Ted bowled it."



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 21, 2014, 03:34:59 AM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: crazywack on October 21, 2014, 03:39:14 AM
How long will the ipo run? I might of read past it but didn't see any info on dates listed


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: btcsql on October 21, 2014, 03:41:55 AM
How long is expected in between the initial ICO and the actual launch of the wallet / blockchain?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 21, 2014, 03:43:58 AM
How long will the ipo run? I might of read past it but didn't see any info on dates listed

The "coin sale" will last for 30 days, there will be an early bird incentive for early participants.  We want to allow as many buyers an opportunity to join in on the ground floor.  However, we will keep this forum open to suggestions during the entire process and will be listening for feedback.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 21, 2014, 03:48:39 AM
How long is expected in between the initial ICO and the actual launch of the wallet / blockchain?

We are planning to launch our gaming platform at the same time as the launch of the coin.  The software is in final development stages and we will be offering a YouTube demo video of both the poker and Fantasy games soon.  Our primary concern is security, anti-fraud and anti-collusion.  The QA for this will be extensive, and we will not launch until we are 100% satisfied that our customers can be confident of the safety of our products.  However, we will apply as much resources as we can in order to bring the launch as close to the end of the "coin sale" as possible.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 21, 2014, 05:15:21 AM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: crazywack on October 21, 2014, 05:20:06 AM
I think 30 days is way to long.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 21, 2014, 05:22:32 AM
I think 30 days is way to long.

We hear you, there will be an open discussion on closing the "crowd sale"early as we reach closer to our goal.  However, there will be many complaints if we close early and do not offer opportunity to people that were planning to invest at nearer the end of the 30 days. 


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 21, 2014, 05:59:38 AM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 21, 2014, 06:27:05 AM
Please Bro not a ''X'' coin !!!!!!!

edit: XMG's algo M7M looks very nice mini blockchain + cpu only

Thanks very much for letting us know...

Will make dev aware ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 21, 2014, 07:41:08 AM
Thank you all for your interest and comments.  Much appreciated!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: Moolah.lol on October 21, 2014, 07:54:16 AM
is there a BRO chat anywhere? IRC?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 21, 2014, 08:22:45 AM
is there a BRO chat anywhere? IRC?

There will be an IRC chat announced in the morning, please follow this thread for information.  Thanks.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: btcsql on October 21, 2014, 08:33:42 AM
What's the deal with all the fake likes on the Facebook page?

https://www.facebook.com/breakoutandwin

Even a cursory look at some of the engagement on recent posts shows it is from an audience that is pretty typical of the mass-like purchasing services (ie, Indian, Paki).

Is that what can be expected of Soda & Lime marketing guys?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: btcsql on October 21, 2014, 08:38:04 AM
Also, what is the relationship of Billy Chung (https://www.facebook.com/gutshot5820?fref=ufi) to Breakout, considering he is listed as CEO on Facebook but there is zero mention of him on the website?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 21, 2014, 09:09:32 AM
What's the deal with all the fake likes on the Facebook page?

https://www.facebook.com/breakoutandwin

Even a cursory look at some of the engagement on recent posts shows it is from an audience that is pretty typical of the mass-like purchasing services (ie, Indian, Paki).

Is that what can be expected of Soda & Lime marketing guys?

This question has been asked and answered before.  New companies typically reach out to an audience by intially purchasing Facebook ads.  These like are NOT purchases, but borne from a marketing campaign targeting areas where bitcoin and eSports fans typically reside.  What we found was that in certain Asian countries, the amount of followers was disproportionate to the dollars spent to reach  a diverse audience.  For example, advertising dollars spent in India grew dramatically faster in India than in US and Europe.  We actually had to stop advertising and targeting certain regions of the world in order to balance out our fan base.  We have been limiting the amount of advertising in recent weeks and have been growing primarily organically over the last month.

Joshua Wells was head creative director for TMZ.com over the last four years.  Bonner Bellew is one of the most respected Creative Directors in the world.  His achievements speak for themselves.  Together they are the most formidable team in design and social media marketing.  Breakout Gaming has not officially launched yet, and we are proud and lucky to have them on our team.  All investors in the BRO coin should be considered lucky to have this team working to present a crypto coin in the incredible way they have done so far.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|EXCHANGE
Post by: brother3 on October 21, 2014, 09:48:42 AM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|STARTING!!!
Post by: junglist.massive on October 21, 2014, 01:00:16 PM
so where can I download wallet?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|STARTING!!!
Post by: Crypto_Enthusiast on October 21, 2014, 01:01:21 PM
Do you have an ETA for BRO hitting familiar exchanges such as Bittrex? Or will it only be on your exchange for the near future?



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|STARTING!!!
Post by: cryptocoinnl on October 21, 2014, 01:11:55 PM
are all these people actually involved in this coin?
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/the-team/

Or just a nice list of some interesting people?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|STARTING!!!
Post by: ofortuna on October 21, 2014, 01:18:27 PM
are all these people actually involved in this coin?
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/the-team/

Or just a nice list of some interesting people?

Hi Cryptocoinnl,

They are nice, interesting, AND a big part of our project!



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|STARTING!!!
Post by: gamersimpson on October 21, 2014, 01:20:31 PM
Ok so today you can prebuy coins , But no mining?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|STARTING!!!
Post by: junglist.massive on October 21, 2014, 01:22:21 PM
and you can only buy it by BTC or $ too?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|STARTING!!!
Post by: Crypto_Enthusiast on October 21, 2014, 01:38:55 PM
Do you have an ETA for BRO hitting familiar exchanges such as Bittrex? Or will it only be on your exchange for the near future?



This is vital IMO, if anyone could answer this it would help a lot - thanks.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|STARTING!!!
Post by: Arbex on October 21, 2014, 01:53:38 PM
are all these people actually involved in this coin?
http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/the-team/

Or just a nice list of some interesting people?

Hi Cryptocoinnl,

They are nice, interesting, AND a big part of our project!



I'm a proud member of the team shown on that page.  You also see Jay and others on the team and more that aren't pictured.  I write less on forums than others, but love being part of the crypto community.  


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|STARTING!!!
Post by: gwada971 on October 21, 2014, 02:11:53 PM
It's going up and the process if working well !

My little contribution, 1 BTC ;).  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|STARTING!!!
Post by: ofortuna on October 21, 2014, 02:24:53 PM
It's going up and the process if working well !

My little contribution, 1 BTC ;).  :)

Hi Gwada971!  Excellent!  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|STARTING!!!
Post by: Arbex on October 21, 2014, 02:26:27 PM
Do you have an ETA for BRO hitting familiar exchanges such as Bittrex? Or will it only be on your exchange for the near future?



This is vital IMO, if anyone could answer this it would help a lot - thanks.

Markets and people act fast and on their own.  I haven't tried to estimate when other exchanges will also have it, so we'll see.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|STARTING!!!
Post by: cryptoconomist on October 21, 2014, 02:30:29 PM
I'm worried that pools will be the one holding all the POB

anything we can do against that?

thanks


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|STARTING!!!
Post by: comando on October 21, 2014, 02:31:55 PM
How much is for BRO at ICO, again? sorry if this question has been asked already.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|STARTING!!!
Post by: MundoCrypto on October 21, 2014, 02:36:20 PM
I just bought a bit , the process went smooth.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|STARTING!!!
Post by: ofortuna on October 21, 2014, 02:43:53 PM
I'm worried that pools will be the one holding all the POB

anything we can do against that?

thanks

Hi Cryptoconomist,

We will have special pools where the Bergstake is distributed to the participants.  Jaybny can elaborate on how this will be done.  This is a great question and I agree that it is very important that Bergstake is distributed as widely as possible during the PoW phase.




Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|STARTING!!!
Post by: brother3 on October 21, 2014, 02:46:44 PM
I'm worried that pools will be the one holding all the POB

anything we can do against that?

thanks

Quote
Current pool technology will not enable this. So the pool operator will keep all the Bergstake, and to compensate, they will have to distribute all or most of the BRO to miners. This is why we are developing a new kind of pool, where when a block is found, all miners will be entered into the coinbase transaction directly. So there will be 100s of outputs. This "feature" will keep pools smaller and less centralized.  A solution will be made available and open-sourced BEFORE LAUNCH


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|STARTING!!!
Post by: junglist.massive on October 21, 2014, 02:47:28 PM
so where can I find how many BRO I have?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|STARTING!!!
Post by: Arbex on October 21, 2014, 03:04:19 PM
I'm worried that pools will be the one holding all the POB

anything we can do against that?

thanks

As you'll find in this thread, the broad distribution of Bergstake has been a goal to help support strength and stability BRO in the future.  This coin sale gives people direct access to 5.5 million BRO with Bergstake, compared with the 7.0 million that will be earned by miners, over 2 years.  Plus, BRO has features designed to reduce the advantage of pools over individual miners.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|STARTING!!!
Post by: brother3 on October 21, 2014, 03:05:20 PM
How much is for BRO at ICO, again? sorry if this question has been asked already.

5.5 million BRO in crowd sale... Bonus incentive for early birds (please look at the OP for more detail on early ICO participation)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|STARTING!!!
Post by: cryptoconomist on October 21, 2014, 03:10:23 PM
can I just send more BTC to the same BTC address if I want to buy more?

or do I need to make a new wallet?

thanks


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|STARTING!!!
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 21, 2014, 03:15:45 PM
Do you have an ETA for BRO hitting familiar exchanges such as Bittrex? Or will it only be on your exchange for the near future?



BRO will be listed on multiple exchanges at launch.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|STARTING!!!
Post by: btcsnippers on October 21, 2014, 03:20:13 PM
so where can I find how many BRO I have?

U can findout after 30 days how much u payed per BRO.
If u invested 1 btc and total investment is 15000 btc(what they hope for) u will get 5.500.000 / 15000 = 366,6 coins. if total number invested is different from 15k  like only 5k total u would get 5.500.000 / 5000 = 1100 coins for your 1btc , ammount of coins u get changes as the total investment does.
But u get bergstake how profitable that is i cant tell u because i dont know.
 


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Post by: StarFire on October 21, 2014, 03:26:59 PM
Do you have an ETA for BRO hitting familiar exchanges such as Bittrex? Or will it only be on your exchange for the near future?



BRO will be listed on multiple exchanges at launch.


Can we buy it now?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: Rayban34 on October 21, 2014, 03:27:03 PM
Ok! Just bought some BRO.

More to be bought tonight :)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|STARTING!!!
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 21, 2014, 03:29:53 PM
Do you have an ETA for BRO hitting familiar exchanges such as Bittrex? Or will it only be on your exchange for the near future?



BRO will be listed on multiple exchanges at launch.


Can we buy it now?

Yes, you can buy now, just head over to breakoutcoin.com


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 21, 2014, 03:35:58 PM
Ok! Just bought some BRO.

More to be bought tonight :)

Thanks for your support!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: comando on October 21, 2014, 03:37:02 PM
again, how much sats is for BRO at the ICO, again?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: JakeThePanda on October 21, 2014, 03:39:47 PM
THE ICO PRICE IS NOW 561 SATS

79BTC ($30K) MARKET CAP.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 21, 2014, 03:43:03 PM
again, how much sats is for BRO at the ICO, again?

You will find out at the end of the "coin sale." The 5.5 million BRO and Bergstake will be distributed pro-rata, with the early birds getting a slightly larger portion on a sliding scale.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: jowinm on October 21, 2014, 03:43:20 PM
I am in the step 5, have sent my bitcoins, but I continue in the same page,purchase status: Waiting for deposit..., it has not detected the payment to me??  ???


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Post by: *Sakura* on October 21, 2014, 03:55:26 PM
Just bought some BROs (in the Ethereum ICO style) :)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: ofortuna on October 21, 2014, 03:56:38 PM
I am in the step 5, have sent my bitcoins, but I continue in the same page,purchase status: Waiting for deposit..., it has not detected the payment to me??  ???

Hi Jowinm,

Does your screen say that it is waiting for confirmations?  Or does it show a bitcoin address and ask you to send bitcoins?

Once you send bitcoins to the address posted, it will instantly detect the transaction and start waiting for confirmations.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: cryptoconomist on October 21, 2014, 03:58:09 PM
Can I send more btc to the same address or do I need to do the all process again?


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Post by: Arbex on October 21, 2014, 04:06:30 PM
How much is for BRO at ICO, again? sorry if this question has been asked already.

The price of BRO is not known at this time.  With no prior transaction history, stating any price would be like picking a number out of thin air.  Price is important and should be determined by the real supply and demand.

Therefore, the price will be calculated at the end of the sale when we know how many BTC were paid for the 5.5 million BRO.  Then the price of the BTC/BRO will be calculated simply, and each holder will know the real price of BRO, and also how many BRO they bought.  One price.  It's the first price for BRO, and the only price at that point. And, until it is exchanged for something else, it can't be said to be "high" or "low"; it is what it is.  

Thus, rather than price, the important decision factor for the Coin Sale buyer is how much value, as measured in BTC, he or she wants to put into getting genesis BRO.  Each person will determine that for themselves by assessing how worthwhile it looks to be holding the first BRO -- AND the associated Bergstake which is yours for future virtual mining, for good.  

So the information about BRO, with its natural market usage on the Breakout Gaming global platform, is the key to determining how much it's worth to you, and how much BTC to send for this one-time opportunity.  Hope that helps!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|STARTING!!!
Post by: JakeThePanda on October 21, 2014, 04:18:15 PM
How much is for BRO at ICO, again? sorry if this question has been asked already.
The price of BRO is not known at this time.  With no prior transaction history, stating any price would be like picking a number out of thin air.  Price is important and should be determined by the real supply and demand.

Wrong, the minimum price for BRO is known right now. Anyone buying the ICO right now will pay more than 603 sats.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: btcsnippers on October 21, 2014, 04:19:06 PM
man, I'm so on the fence about buying this coin ugh.  I dont wanna be bagholding more crap but it "seems" this coin would do well with a bit of time and given the investment/hype???

Can someone please give a quick point form breakdown of why to buy or NOT buy this thing??

My
nr1 reason not to buy atm is that its not clear what % of a return i can expect from my bergstake.
nr2 reason not to buy  u wont know @ what price your buying.

reason for not buying now , 10% is nice but i think i can do better then 10% with my btc in a month and then i could invest more @ the end of the ipo.

nr1 reason for buying , everything looks great they clearly seem to have really big plans for this.
nr2 reason for buying , the pokerpro's will atract people.




Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: bitme on October 21, 2014, 04:20:00 PM
my comp turned off just after payment was made, i have wallet and password but when i input btc address to check balance it posts "You purchased 0.00 bitcoins worth of Breakoutcoins" Transaction has 10 confirmation already
tx: d5c64e7bf576ece81b8b9565f48609e62212b06bf0798fafc71adcf0a66f4e20
Do i have reasons to worry?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: jowinm on October 21, 2014, 04:24:39 PM
I am in the step 5, have sent my bitcoins, but I continue in the same page,purchase status: Waiting for deposit..., it has not detected the payment to me??  ???

Hi Jowinm,

Does your screen say that it is waiting for confirmations?  Or does it show a bitcoin address and ask you to send bitcoins?

Once you send bitcoins to the address posted, it will instantly detect the transaction and start waiting for confirmations.




purchase Breakoutcoin
download >purchase

DO NOT LEAVE THIS PAGE once you have sent bitcoin.
When your bitcoin is received you will be taken to the next step.
DO NOT SEND bitcoin more than once to the bitcoin address unless you are still on this page.




STEP 5

Send minimun .01 and maximun 10,000 bitcoin to the address below:

Payment address:
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx






purchase status: Waiting for deposit...
Loading...

The Bitcoin payment address is also your pre-genesis Breakout Coin wallet address

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



ou will also be emailed a backup of this file and redirected to the final step when a transaction is detected.


I have sent the BTC and in my wallet he works out confirmed, but this continues in the same page, step 5.



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: ofortuna on October 21, 2014, 04:25:32 PM
my comp turned off just after payment was made, i have wallet and password but when i input btc address to check balance it posts "You purchased 0.00 bitcoins worth of Breakoutcoins" Transaction has 10 confirmation already
tx: d5c64e7bf576ece81b8b9565f48609e62212b06bf0798fafc71adcf0a66f4e20
Do i have reasons to worry?

You should be fine.  To check your balance, enter the btc address you find in your downloaded wallet.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: JakeThePanda on October 21, 2014, 04:25:58 PM
Current ICO Price is 603 sats or 84.44 total BTC ($32.3k) market value for BRO based on 14mm coins.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: ofortuna on October 21, 2014, 04:31:54 PM
I am in the step 5, have sent my bitcoins, but I continue in the same page,purchase status: Waiting for deposit..., it has not detected the payment to me??  ???

Hi Jowinm,

Does your screen say that it is waiting for confirmations?  Or does it show a bitcoin address and ask you to send bitcoins?

Once you send bitcoins to the address posted, it will instantly detect the transaction and start waiting for confirmations.




purchase Breakoutcoin
download >purchase

DO NOT LEAVE THIS PAGE once you have sent bitcoin.
When your bitcoin is received you will be taken to the next step.
DO NOT SEND bitcoin more than once to the bitcoin address unless you are still on this page.




STEP 5

Send minimun .01 and maximun 10,000 bitcoin to the address below:

Payment address:
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx






purchase status: Waiting for deposit...
Loading...

The Bitcoin payment address is also your pre-genesis Breakout Coin wallet address

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



ou will also be emailed a backup of this file and redirected to the final step when a transaction is detected.


I have sent the BTC and in my wallet he works out confirmed, but this continues in the same page, step 5.



Jowinm,

If you can confirm that you did transfer bitcoin to the address, waiting for confirmations isn't required to finalize the purchase.  I would take the btc address from your downloaded wallet and send it to "Check Balance" on the homepage to verify your purchase.



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: ofortuna on October 21, 2014, 04:35:01 PM
Can I send more btc to the same address or do I need to do the all process again?

Sorry cryptoconomist,

I can't answer your question with 100% confidence.  Hopefully Jaybny will be available soon to help.  If you can't wait, I would suggest you repeat the entire process for peace of mind.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 21, 2014, 04:40:32 PM
Just bought some BROs (in the Ethereum ICO style) :)

Thanks Sakura!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: BTC-Ninja on October 21, 2014, 04:42:14 PM
I bought 1 btc worth.  8)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 21, 2014, 04:46:20 PM
I bought 1 btc worth.  8)

Welcome to the Breakout community BTC-Ninja


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: bitme on October 21, 2014, 04:53:23 PM
my comp turned off just after payment was made, i have wallet and password but when i input btc address to check balance it posts "You purchased 0.00 bitcoins worth of Breakoutcoins" Transaction has 10 confirmation already
tx: d5c64e7bf576ece81b8b9565f48609e62212b06bf0798fafc71adcf0a66f4e20
Do i have reasons to worry?

You should be fine.  To check your balance, enter the btc address you find in your downloaded wallet.


what bothers me is that after entering that address it says "You purchased 0.00 bitcoins worth of Breakoutcoins". As far as i remember i sent 10btc;)


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: jowinm on October 21, 2014, 05:00:12 PM
I am in the step 5, have sent my bitcoins, but I continue in the same page,purchase status: Waiting for deposit..., it has not detected the payment to me??  ???

Hi Jowinm,

Does your screen say that it is waiting for confirmations?  Or does it show a bitcoin address and ask you to send bitcoins?

Once you send bitcoins to the address posted, it will instantly detect the transaction and start waiting for confirmations.




purchase Breakoutcoin
download >purchase

DO NOT LEAVE THIS PAGE once you have sent bitcoin.
When your bitcoin is received you will be taken to the next step.
DO NOT SEND bitcoin more than once to the bitcoin address unless you are still on this page.




STEP 5

Send minimun .01 and maximun 10,000 bitcoin to the address below:

Payment address:
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx






purchase status: Waiting for deposit...
Loading...

The Bitcoin payment address is also your pre-genesis Breakout Coin wallet address

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



ou will also be emailed a backup of this file and redirected to the final step when a transaction is detected.


I have sent the BTC and in my wallet he works out confirmed, but this continues in the same page, step 5.



Jowinm,

If you can confirm that you did transfer bitcoin to the address, waiting for confirmations isn't required to finalize the purchase.  I would take the btc address from your downloaded wallet and send it to "Check Balance" on the homepage to verify your purchase.


You sending MP with TX of the transaction??


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: bitme on October 21, 2014, 05:12:46 PM
sth is not right with that balance checker on main page. If i enter random addresses it gives some output different from 0.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: ofortuna on October 21, 2014, 05:21:59 PM
sth is not right with that balance checker on main page. If i enter random addresses it gives some output different from 0.

Not sure what you mean bitme.  When I enter random addresses I get the message:

There was a problem fetching your purchases. Please ensure you have entered the correct bitcoin address


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: bitme on October 21, 2014, 05:28:22 PM
i meant random valid. here's one from top btc addreses 1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH
my otput is " You purchased 144,341.54 bitcoins worth of Breakoutcoins"


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: JakeThePanda on October 21, 2014, 05:31:04 PM
Current price is 636 Sats


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: drkman on October 21, 2014, 05:38:24 PM
THE ICO PRICE IS NOW 561 SATS

79BTC ($30K) MARKET CAP.
Talk about an extremely misleading post.  Let's post an actually accurate mktcap and ICO price once we are 1 week in and compare and then again in 30 days and anyone buying BRO based on your post will only have themselves to blame when they ended up many paying orders of magnitude more than your posted price.

You are tricking people into thinking that if they by now they will pay 561 SATS when we all now they will actually be paying far far more than that when this thing is done.   EDIT:  looks like they already paid 20% higher per coin than just a few minutes ago and so on and so on for the next 30 days.


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Post by: comando on October 21, 2014, 05:51:58 PM
29 days for the ICO sale ends  ???, its so long...


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: JakeThePanda on October 21, 2014, 05:52:56 PM
THE ICO PRICE IS NOW 561 SATS

79BTC ($30K) MARKET CAP.
Talk about an extremely misleading post.  Let's post an actually accurate mktcap and ICO price once we are 1 week in and compare and then again in 30 days and anyone buying BRO based on your post will only have themselves to blame when they ended up many paying orders of magnitude more than your posted price.

You are tricking people into thinking that if they by now they will pay 561 SATS when we all now they will actually be paying far far more than that when this thing is done.   EDIT:  looks like they already paid 20% higher per coin than just a few minutes ago and so on and so on for the next 30 days.

I can't be tricking someone if I have nothing to gain by anyone buying the ICO.  If someone can't figure out what that means then they shouldn't be purchasing crypto and definitely not ICOs.

Your post is also misleading because it makes it sound like I'm purposely trying to trick people when in reality I lose when more people buy the ICO.

With that being said, you are correct in that nobody should look at my post as the current buying price, although I never said it was.


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Post by: shogun47 on October 21, 2014, 05:55:20 PM
This should have had a fixed ICO number like 10k sat or something so everyone knows how much coins they get for how much btc they are spending now. Otherwise this looks like a real cool coin to buy.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: jowinm on October 21, 2014, 06:02:42 PM
to do with wallet.json ?? Sorry, it's the first time I see it.  ???


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: BreakoutGaming on October 21, 2014, 06:07:47 PM
to do with wallet.json ?? Sorry, it's the first time I see it.  ???

SAVE your wallet.json and your password.  DO NOT lose them and make sure you have copies.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: drkman on October 21, 2014, 06:08:37 PM
THE ICO PRICE IS NOW 561 SATS

79BTC ($30K) MARKET CAP.
Talk about an extremely misleading post.  Let's post an actually accurate mktcap and ICO price once we are 1 week in and compare and then again in 30 days and anyone buying BRO based on your post will only have themselves to blame when they ended up many paying orders of magnitude more than your posted price.

You are tricking people into thinking that if they by now they will pay 561 SATS when we all now they will actually be paying far far more than that when this thing is done.   EDIT:  looks like they already paid 20% higher per coin than just a few minutes ago and so on and so on for the next 30 days.

I can't be tricking someone if I have nothing to gain by anyone buying the ICO.  If someone can't figure out what that means then they shouldn't be purchasing crypto and definitely not ICOs.

Your post is also misleading because it makes it sound like I'm purposely trying to trick people when in actuality I lose when more people buy the ICO.
Fair enough.

But here's a more accurate pricing method.   In just 4 hours 30BTC of bro has sold. 30BTC times 6X for the 24hour day times 30 days equals the current mkcap of BRO at over 20 million dollars already which means everyone buying now is paying the current price of .1485 BTC per BRO or 14,850,000 SATS per BRO.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: Koontas on October 21, 2014, 06:08:57 PM
Might as well give this a shot...I'm a gambler...


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: brother3 on October 21, 2014, 06:11:52 PM

29 days for the ICO sale ends  ???, its so long...



We hear you, there will be an open discussion on closing the "crowd sale"early as we reach closer to our goal.  However, there will be many complaints if we close early and do not offer opportunity to people that were planning to invest at nearer the end of the 30 days. 



Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: JakeThePanda on October 21, 2014, 06:12:32 PM
THE ICO PRICE IS NOW 561 SATS

79BTC ($30K) MARKET CAP.
Talk about an extremely misleading post.  Let's post an actually accurate mktcap and ICO price once we are 1 week in and compare and then again in 30 days and anyone buying BRO based on your post will only have themselves to blame when they ended up many paying orders of magnitude more than your posted price.

You are tricking people into thinking that if they by now they will pay 561 SATS when we all now they will actually be paying far far more than that when this thing is done.   EDIT:  looks like they already paid 20% higher per coin than just a few minutes ago and so on and so on for the next 30 days.

I can't be tricking someone if I have nothing to gain by anyone buying the ICO.  If someone can't figure out what that means then they shouldn't be purchasing crypto and definitely not ICOs.

Your post is also misleading because it makes it sound like I'm purposely trying to trick people when in actuality I lose when more people buy the ICO.
Fair enough.

But here's a more accurate pricing method.   In just 4 hours 30BTC of bro has sold. 30BTC times 6X for the 24hour day times 30 days equals the current mkcap of BRO at over 20 million dollars already which means everyone buying now is paying the current price of .1485 BTC per BRO or 14,850,000 SATS per BRO.

Ok, since Breakout is a gambling site I bet you by the end of the ICO, the current market cap of 30K is closer to the actual ending ICO market cap than your prediction of 20mm. 1 btc on it?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: jowinm on October 21, 2014, 06:12:51 PM
to do with wallet.json ?? Sorry, it's the first time I see it.  ???

SAVE your wallet.json and your password.  DO NOT lose them and make sure you have copies.
ok,thanks


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: Kuriso on October 21, 2014, 06:15:52 PM
THE ICO PRICE IS NOW 561 SATS

79BTC ($30K) MARKET CAP.
Talk about an extremely misleading post.  Let's post an actually accurate mktcap and ICO price once we are 1 week in and compare and then again in 30 days and anyone buying BRO based on your post will only have themselves to blame when they ended up many paying orders of magnitude more than your posted price.

You are tricking people into thinking that if they by now they will pay 561 SATS when we all now they will actually be paying far far more than that when this thing is done.   EDIT:  looks like they already paid 20% higher per coin than just a few minutes ago and so on and so on for the next 30 days.

I can't be tricking someone if I have nothing to gain by anyone buying the ICO.  If someone can't figure out what that means then they shouldn't be purchasing crypto and definitely not ICOs.

Your post is also misleading because it makes it sound like I'm purposely trying to trick people when in actuality I lose when more people buy the ICO.
Fair enough.

But here's a more accurate pricing method.   In just 4 hours 30BTC of bro has sold. 30BTC times 6X for the 24hour day times 30 days equals the current mkcap of BRO at over 20 million dollars already which means everyone buying now is paying the current price of .1485 BTC per BRO or 14,850,000 SATS per BRO.

There's no way that 30btc 6x a day over 30 days will be sustained.  After the rush of buyers during the first few days, it will slow down.  It will pick back up before the the ICO ends.  I will be really surprised if it breaks 100btc today or 500btc in a week.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: illodin on October 21, 2014, 06:21:08 PM
Has Alex Green invested yet?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: drkman on October 21, 2014, 06:27:04 PM
THE ICO PRICE IS NOW 561 SATS

79BTC ($30K) MARKET CAP.
Talk about an extremely misleading post.  Let's post an actually accurate mktcap and ICO price once we are 1 week in and compare and then again in 30 days and anyone buying BRO based on your post will only have themselves to blame when they ended up many paying orders of magnitude more than your posted price.

You are tricking people into thinking that if they by now they will pay 561 SATS when we all now they will actually be paying far far more than that when this thing is done.   EDIT:  looks like they already paid 20% higher per coin than just a few minutes ago and so on and so on for the next 30 days.

I can't be tricking someone if I have nothing to gain by anyone buying the ICO.  If someone can't figure out what that means then they shouldn't be purchasing crypto and definitely not ICOs.

Your post is also misleading because it makes it sound like I'm purposely trying to trick people when in actuality I lose when more people buy the ICO.
Fair enough.

But here's a more accurate pricing method.   In just 4 hours 30BTC of bro has sold. 30BTC times 6X for the 24hour day times 30 days equals the current mkcap of BRO at over 20 million dollars already which means everyone buying now is paying the current price of .1485 BTC per BRO or 14,850,000 SATS per BRO.

There's no way that 30btc 6x a day over 30 days will be sustained.  After the rush of buyers during the first few days, it will slow down.  It will pick back up before the the ICO ends.  I will be really surprised if it breaks 100btc today or 500btc in a week.
Yes, Of course.  It's an example of how trying to price anything this early will be extremely inaccurate which is why you should run that model after 1 week in and we will have a better feel for the pricing.  If anyone knows the rate of Ethereum purchasing dropoff, then you could put in that ratio into the formula as well if you just had to price this thing this early.  But margin of error will still be large.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: bitme on October 21, 2014, 06:29:51 PM
I feel this project may go really high taking into consideration people involved. Thanks for great support concerning  my "power off" problem. Looking forward to play some cards...


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: brother3 on October 21, 2014, 06:33:26 PM
Has Alex Green invested yet?

If its the one from Moolah that you are referring to, then I would hope not.   :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: brother3 on October 21, 2014, 06:34:11 PM
I feel this project may go really high taking into consideration people involved. Thanks for great support concerning  my "power off" problem. Looking forward to play some cards...

I am so glad you got everything sorted.  Thanks very much for your support!


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: jaybny on October 21, 2014, 06:54:37 PM
sth is not right with that balance checker on main page. If i enter random addresses it gives some output different from 0.

the balance checker is pretty basic, it just checks the total outputs from an address.. it assumes the address was generated on the site.. so any address generated on the site should have a balance of 0 , with the total spent equal to amount of investment.

yes, any bitcoin address with outputs will give you a balance. thats why you should only be entering in the btcaddr from the downloaded file or email received.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: jaybny on October 21, 2014, 06:58:54 PM
can I just send more BTC to the same BTC address if I want to buy more?

or do I need to make a new wallet?

thanks

no, should not send more btc to the same wallet generated in the process.. however, if you are able to manage your own bitcoin wallet, you could invest by sending bitcoins to the exedos address directly.

33Bghpzm4pgbSRgnqS63ZBf6dnSjbGc6Sf




Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: jaybny on October 21, 2014, 07:01:16 PM
What's the deal with all the fake likes on the Facebook page?

https://www.facebook.com/breakoutandwin

Even a cursory look at some of the engagement on recent posts shows it is from an audience that is pretty typical of the mass-like purchasing services (ie, Indian, Paki).

Is that what can be expected of Soda & Lime marketing guys?
Do you have an ETA for BRO hitting familiar exchanges such as Bittrex? Or will it only be on your exchange for the near future?



as  soon as coin is launched it will listed on popular exchanges.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: crash__bandicoot on October 21, 2014, 07:04:03 PM
I feel this project may go really high taking into consideration people involved. Thanks for great support concerning  my "power off" problem. Looking forward to play some cards...

Hey, thanks for the sentiment! :D


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: brother3 on October 21, 2014, 07:22:32 PM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: BreakoutCoin on October 21, 2014, 07:24:10 PM
my comp turned off just after payment was made, i have wallet and password but when i input btc address to check balance it posts "You purchased 0.00 bitcoins worth of Breakoutcoins" Transaction has 10 confirmation already
tx: d5c64e7bf576ece81b8b9565f48609e62212b06bf0798fafc71adcf0a66f4e20
Do i have reasons to worry?

if you have your password and your wallet, you still have your BTC. however you have not invested in the Breakout coin sale as of yet. We can help you complete your transaction. please pm or email.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: jaybny on October 21, 2014, 07:48:07 PM
I am in the step 5, have sent my bitcoins, but I continue in the same page,purchase status: Waiting for deposit..., it has not detected the payment to me??  ???

if you have wallet, password you can recover funds assuming they were sent. check blockchain.info for transaction number and send email or pm.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: jt7382 on October 21, 2014, 08:17:36 PM
Are there any tweets or mentions of BRO from the people that are supposed to be a part of this, Harmon, Flack, Chan, etc?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: bitass on October 21, 2014, 08:18:39 PM
do you guys have a twitter account?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: J9901 on October 21, 2014, 08:24:27 PM
Are there any tweets or mentions of BRO from the people that are supposed to be a part of this, Harmon, Flack, Chan, etc?

Of course not.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: jaybny on October 21, 2014, 08:26:06 PM
Are there any tweets or mentions of BRO from the people that are supposed to be a part of this, Harmon, Flack, Chan, etc?

Of course not.

has there been any real proof that these 'big name' players are involved or 'behind' bro?

Please start with the poker pros' twitters

links?  idk all their handles.  you should update the OP with this information.

https://twitter.com/REALJenHarman (https://twitter.com/REALJenHarman)

https://twitter.com/ToddBrunson (https://twitter.com/ToddBrunson)

https://twitter.com/ItsJohnnyChan (https://twitter.com/ItsJohnnyChan)

https://twitter.com/back2backflack (https://twitter.com/back2backflack)

https://twitter.com/ForrestTed (https://twitter.com/ForrestTed)
https://twitter.com/BreakoutGaming

https://twitter.com/REALJenHarman/status/511709224775467009

https://twitter.com/back2backflack/status/511684185379987456

https://twitter.com/ForrestTed/status/511673494455599105

https://twitter.com/_DavidBenyamine/status/511745726192578560

https://twitter.com/ToddBrunson

https://twitter.com/HuckleberrySeed/status/511673142201573376

https://twitter.com/HuckleberrySeed/status/524584780504264704


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: bobcaticus on October 21, 2014, 08:32:47 PM
watching this one :D


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: jaybny on October 21, 2014, 08:52:54 PM
is there a BRO chat anywhere? IRC?

http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=%23breakoutcoin&uio=d4


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: brother3 on October 21, 2014, 08:54:26 PM


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: jowinm on October 21, 2014, 09:04:28 PM
I am in the step 5, have sent my bitcoins, but I continue in the same page,purchase status: Waiting for deposit..., it has not detected the payment to me??  ???

if you have wallet, password you can recover funds assuming they were sent. check blockchain.info for transaction number and send email or pm.
I think that's it, my question now is how to receive coins and operate them. ???


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: jt7382 on October 21, 2014, 09:05:25 PM
Are there any tweets or mentions of BRO from the people that are supposed to be a part of this, Harmon, Flack, Chan, etc?

Of course not.

has there been any real proof that these 'big name' players are involved or 'behind' bro?

Please start with the poker pros' twitters

links?  idk all their handles.  you should update the OP with this information.

https://twitter.com/REALJenHarman (https://twitter.com/REALJenHarman)

https://twitter.com/ToddBrunson (https://twitter.com/ToddBrunson)

https://twitter.com/ItsJohnnyChan (https://twitter.com/ItsJohnnyChan)

https://twitter.com/back2backflack (https://twitter.com/back2backflack)

https://twitter.com/ForrestTed (https://twitter.com/ForrestTed)
https://twitter.com/BreakoutGaming

https://twitter.com/REALJenHarman/status/511709224775467009

https://twitter.com/back2backflack/status/511684185379987456

https://twitter.com/ForrestTed/status/511673494455599105

https://twitter.com/_DavidBenyamine/status/511745726192578560

https://twitter.com/ToddBrunson

https://twitter.com/HuckleberrySeed/status/511673142201573376

https://twitter.com/HuckleberrySeed/status/524584780504264704

Thank you. Was curious and didn't see it. I agree this should be in the OP - pretty important.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: statdude on October 21, 2014, 09:07:16 PM
So you can only send one transaction per wallet? i sent a very small transaction just to test the site. it doesnt appear that i should send any more tx's to that wallet address.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: jaybny on October 21, 2014, 09:19:30 PM
So you can only send one transaction per wallet? i sent a very small transaction just to test the site. it doesnt appear that i should send any more tx's to that wallet address.

no. dont send to the same address. soon we will add a feature to "addon" using the same wallet and password, so you dont have to manage many wallets and bergstake.

edit: i beleive you can do multiple transactions, as long as you are still on step5 of the webapp process. 


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* Breakout Coin|Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming|STARTING!!!
Post by: Arbex on October 21, 2014, 09:36:57 PM
How much is for BRO at ICO, again? sorry if this question has been asked already.
The price of BRO is not known at this time.  With no prior transaction history, stating any price would be like picking a number out of thin air.  Price is important and should be determined by the real supply and demand.

Wrong, the minimum price for BRO is known right now. Anyone buying the ICO right now will pay more than 603 sats.

Here's why there's no "price right now" -- minimum or otherwise. The BRO Coin Sale explains the simple buying procedure --   The BTC are collected, and then the 5.5 million BRO are distributed after the sale. It is done without setting a price before or during the sale.  The price will become known at that time, as will the number of BRO acquired.

What's being recorded in the genesis blockchain when you send in your BTC is the Time and the BTC Amount. So even if some hypothetical "price right now" was meaningful, relevant and calculable, it is not being recorded. The price is determined at the end, with the advantages for everyone that are discussed elsewere in this thread.

The number of BRO a buyer gets is indeed effected by the Early Bird Incentive bonus. This amount depends on the Time the BTC was received, and How Many Total BTC were received by that time. The second of those facts will be available only after the Coin Sale. Clearly, no "price right not" would be relevant to that calculation.

For each participant, their effective cost per BRO will depend on which 10-percentile range they fit into. Early birds can get a pro rata bump of up to 10% over the amount received by those in the second half of funds received. But again, that doesn't involve any "price right now".  I hope that helps clarify how time relates to the cost of the BRO that people get!  http://fundraiser.breakoutgaming.com/offering/


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: Mayhem007 on October 21, 2014, 09:58:18 PM
So you can only send one transaction per wallet? i sent a very small transaction just to test the site. it doesnt appear that i should send any more tx's to that wallet address.

no. dont send to the same address. soon we will add a feature to "addon" using the same wallet and password, so you dont have to manage many wallets and bergstake.

edit: i beleive you can do multiple transactions, as long as you are still on step5 of the webapp process.  

so i dont get it.. if i completed my process beyond step 5, i need to do multiple transactions until you create the addon feature?

why would i do multiple transactions on step 5?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: jowinm on October 21, 2014, 10:15:40 PM
I have a problem, to put btcaddr in check balance: you Purchased breakoutcoins 0.00 worth of bitcoins.


Help


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: qawzsx on October 21, 2014, 10:17:40 PM
I have a problem, to put btcaddr in check balance: you Purchased breakoutcoins 0.00 worth of bitcoins.


Help

Have you used the BTC address generated for your wallet?


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: jowinm on October 21, 2014, 10:20:27 PM
I have a problem, to put btcaddr in check balance: you Purchased breakoutcoins 0.00 worth of bitcoins.


Help

Have you used the BTC address generated for your wallet?
yes


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: qawzsx on October 21, 2014, 10:23:38 PM
I have a problem, to put btcaddr in check balance: you Purchased breakoutcoins 0.00 worth of bitcoins.


Help

Have you used the BTC address generated for your wallet?
yes

Well, it's working for me, it should work for you too since the script is very simple, it's just checking output of that given address. Check that address on blockchain . info. You should your in-transaction and out-transaction to the 3xxx BTC address.


Title: Re: [ANN][BRO] *ICO* STARTING!! Breakout Coin |Virtual Mining Rig|CELEBRITIES|Gaming
Post by: jowinm on October 21, 2014, 10:33:41 PM