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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: KaozTiposta on October 21, 2014, 08:59:03 AM



Title: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: KaozTiposta on October 21, 2014, 08:59:03 AM
I'm making a simple dice game with php, i'm thinking about implement faucet but I don't know if its necessary.

Should I add it? If i add i will give 250 sat/10 min or like this.


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: BikiniDice on October 21, 2014, 09:04:52 AM
I'm making a simple dice game with php, i'm thinking about implement faucet but I don't know if its necessary.

Should I add it? If i add i will give 250 sat/10 min or like this.

It is necessary bro ;)


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: yenzae0215 on October 21, 2014, 09:07:52 AM
it is not. but faucet gives you advantage from others  ;)


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: medUSA on October 21, 2014, 09:19:10 AM
I believe it is necessary from a marketing point of view. It pulls gamblers in to try your site. The competition is tough and every tiny edge counts. Most faucet on gambling sites only pays out when a player has low balance. With 0.0001 transaction fees and minimum withdraw limit of 0.001, you wouldn't loose much on the faucet anyway.


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: NeuroticFish on October 21, 2014, 09:26:24 AM
I also vote for the faucet. People will be able to play a little with the free money and if they like it, they will deposit more.
The benefits are much bigger than the estimated loses.


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: KaozTiposta on October 21, 2014, 09:30:56 AM
Yeah you are right it gives advantage when attracts players.
But 'real' players don't play with faucet, they deposit-play-win/lose-exit or like this.

My main concern is about database size. Sometimes I see people on PD like these stats:
Bets 70.000
Losses .....
Wagered 0.01 btc.

This is not good.


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: panju1 on October 21, 2014, 09:37:00 AM
I'm making a simple dice game with php, i'm thinking about implement faucet but I don't know if its necessary.

Should I add it? If i add i will give 250 sat/10 min or like this.

You do want people to try the site, right?
It would be tough for people to send bitcoins across to a new site without trying it out first.


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: sherbyspark on October 21, 2014, 11:10:08 AM
Faucets are not at all necessary . But there are certain advantages. A lot of people love to test and play when they see a new site, and faucet allows them to. It also drives a  lot of traffic to the site.


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: goose20 on October 21, 2014, 11:42:59 AM
I believe it is necessary from a marketing point of view. It pulls gamblers in to try your site. The competition is tough and every tiny edge counts. Most faucet on gambling sites only pays out when a player has low balance. With 0.0001 transaction fees and minimum withdraw limit of 0.001, you wouldn't loose much on the faucet anyway.

Couldnt agree more.

I think you will find that the faucet directly translates to more players and a higher profit for a relatively small investment.

Youll need a good fair game however to keep the players.


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: m19 on October 21, 2014, 11:48:11 AM
I think faucets attract a certain kind of player you don't necessary want on your site. PrimeDice has a faucet and lowering the faucet brought out a high shit storm mainly by the begging kind that doesn't even deposit at all. JustDice had 0BTC bets to try out the site and they did just fine without.

edit: Rather than thinking about a faucet think about the reason why people would want to visit your site instead of a competitor's. Try to provide value for your customer.


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: KaozTiposta on October 21, 2014, 12:55:15 PM
Thanks for your ideas.
Instead of faucet maybe when a user register, i can start his balance from 0.001 btc or like this..


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: jjc326 on October 21, 2014, 01:59:41 PM
I like the idea of a faucet, but honestly if you're making it so small I don't see it paying off...it won't keep people's interest.  If it's going to be 250 satoshis you've gotta make it every 2 mins. or something.


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: Chemistry1988 on October 21, 2014, 02:04:46 PM
I'm making a simple dice game with php, i'm thinking about implement faucet but I don't know if its necessary.

Should I add it? If i add i will give 250 sat/10 min or like this.

Is it a must? No, a number of sites are or were working well and successfully without a faucet.
But having a faucet will help you get more users, especially for a new site.


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: farjia on October 21, 2014, 02:36:20 PM
Think of it this way when someone has no bitcoin, it will keep them there and add traffic to your site.


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: BAGOBO on October 21, 2014, 04:04:01 PM
faucet is a good start for newbie to play to gambling site

If the system provably fair,
then let's hope that someone will make more deposit into your site

If you want to prevent someone to abuse the faucet, just make a min wager to WD or something


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: Seketsuna on October 21, 2014, 04:21:25 PM
nope, faucet only invites bot users, beggars, spammers, and some small decent players. thats why most dice sites remove their faucet after launching


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: Shogen on October 21, 2014, 04:27:08 PM
nope, faucet only invites bot users, beggars, spammers, and some small decent players. thats why most dice sites remove their faucet after launching

Sort of.
In fact, Stunna has also been thinking about removing the faucet on Primedice due to overwhelming support emails about the faucet and chat spamming. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208986.msg9172376#msg9172376


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: Seketsuna on October 21, 2014, 05:01:32 PM
nope, faucet only invites bot users, beggars, spammers, and some small decent players. thats why most dice sites remove their faucet after launching

Sort of.
In fact, Stunna has also been thinking about removing the faucet on Primedice due to overwhelming support emails about the faucet and chat spamming. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208986.msg9172376#msg9172376

heard about that and yeah stunna will highly likely going to remove it coz most players are faucet users and it will eat the sites profit


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: jaberwock on October 21, 2014, 06:03:42 PM
it attracts people and give something to people to start, but also attracts people only because of the faucet, that won't make bets with their own money.

it is your choice


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: caga on October 21, 2014, 06:44:57 PM
Faucet definitely attracts more people. Some of them later deposit and play there. It also keeps the site much more active, and its basically free money for people, so they can easily build it up. I have built around 0.0001 faucet to 0.03 before, and it always feels great to do so.


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: EternalWingsofGod on October 21, 2014, 06:46:26 PM
I'm making a simple dice game with php, i'm thinking about implement faucet but I don't know if its necessary.

Should I add it? If i add i will give 250 sat/10 min or like this.

A valuable addition to a site if not neccessary
It keeps users attracted to it and gets some supporters going for it


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: thompete on October 21, 2014, 06:48:54 PM
Sites like Primedice recently debated if they should keep the faucets on the site. Seems, they took the decision to continue keeping the faucets. One thing faucets guarantee is traffic on the site. Most of the members on chat at primedice, are just there chatting and having fun with the faucet.


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: galbros on October 21, 2014, 08:29:52 PM
I'm making a simple dice game with php, i'm thinking about implement faucet but I don't know if its necessary.

Should I add it? If i add i will give 250 sat/10 min or like this.

Is your site going to have a chat?  If it is, then you may want a faucet to cut down on begging in chat and gives people something to play while they hang out.  Pocketdice has a faucet but no chat.

Be careful of botters.  Captcha's can be defeated, just ask Stunna.


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: panju1 on October 22, 2014, 01:35:51 AM
it attracts people and give something to people to start, but also attracts people only because of the faucet, that won't make bets with their own money.

it is your choice

Some people get hooked to sites because of faucets and then use their own money to gamble. It is the prime reason for sites to offer faucets.


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: Seketsuna on October 22, 2014, 02:38:26 AM
it attracts people and give something to people to start, but also attracts people only because of the faucet, that won't make bets with their own money.

it is your choice

Some people get hooked to sites because of faucets and then use their own money to gamble. It is the prime reason for sites to offer faucets.

those people you're referring are very small group though


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: elm on October 22, 2014, 06:50:26 AM
reading all the answers in this thread is telling me

Faucet yes or no? the answer for me is no!


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: KaozTiposta on October 22, 2014, 01:35:05 PM
Thanks for answers.


Title: Re: Is faucet necessary for a dice game?
Post by: sandykho47 on October 22, 2014, 02:07:29 PM
It is very necessary, because there are lot people want to try before deposit some bitcoin
But, some smart & luck people use faucet to get a lot of bitcoin (last time i have seen a people made 999 satoshi to 0.03 BTC  :o)

And don't give faucet amount too big (maximum 250 satoshi), because they don't want to deposit  :(