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Title: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: paulk11087 on October 22, 2014, 06:05:44 PM
So I have decided to take the plunge on buying some GH on KnC's cloud mining. I have 800 GH/s with them and I must say, the past 48 hours have been a bust! I've only mined .006 BTC in that time. I have 2 antminer S1's mining on ghash for 360gh/s and I get around .006-.007 BTC a day with that.... Anyone else having problems like this?


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: JanisPetke on October 22, 2014, 07:15:18 PM
Fear not.
Good old KNC is just robbing Paul to pay Peter.
They need to get the refund money for their Titans somewhere before the class action becomes too large to handle.


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: paulk11087 on October 23, 2014, 02:50:47 PM
LOL must be... looks like I won't be buying more of this 6 month cloud contract.


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: bitlite on October 27, 2014, 11:22:45 PM
LOL must be... looks like I won't be buying more of this 6 month cloud contract.

Life would be wonderful if BTC as floating @ over $1,000 but unfortunately it's around $300 and falling, whilst difficulty has gone through the roof! No wonder I see thousands of Bitcoin ASIC miners on Ebay starting from $1.00 .

Game over people  :(  ???  :-[  :'(  :'(  :'(


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: Umberg on October 28, 2014, 09:34:10 AM
Tried, paid, nothing.


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: Etanllah on October 29, 2014, 03:33:44 PM
LOL must be... looks like I won't be buying more of this 6 month cloud contract.

Life would be wonderful if BTC as floating @ over $1,000 but unfortunately it's around $300 and falling, whilst difficulty has gone through the roof! No wonder I see thousands of Bitcoin ASIC miners on Ebay starting from $1.00 .

Game over people  :(  ???  :-[  :'(  :'(  :'(

I do agree the price of BTC is hurting mining in general. Even if it were to get up to $500, things would be looking much better!


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: petersiddle98 on October 30, 2014, 03:41:32 AM
The question is whether the mining economy can survive with bitcoin close to $300. People who are mining now made/bought their miners when the price was higher by at least $100.


Well, if its unprofitable to mine then the difficulty would drop. So its balanced..


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: bitpop on October 30, 2014, 08:46:07 PM
Don't fucking do it

Knc is a fraud


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: malev on October 31, 2014, 11:41:00 PM
Don't mine with Knc, I tried them out and I had a horrible experience.

Try other service: The newest with the most affordable mining contracts and highest payout is http://www.ihash-mining.com/
I have been testing them since the start along with other cloud service. I am planning on posting a review on the cloud services.

Other than that Genesis-Mining is good too, but they are pricy.


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: bitgeek on November 01, 2014, 12:32:46 AM
Don't mine with Knc, I tried them out and I had a horrible experience.

Try other service: The newest with the most affordable mining contracts and highest payout is http://www.ihash-mining.com/
I have been testing them since the start along with other cloud service. I am planning on posting a review on the cloud services.

Other than that Genesis-Mining is good too, but they are pricy.

Never heard of them, but whatever they are the title of this thread is "KNC cloud mining" not "paste a link to your cloud mining".


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: Slark on November 01, 2014, 01:55:39 AM
I am surprised that someone is trusting KNC after all these times when they screwed us over. Their hardware miners were a scam and I am not suppose things are gonna change with cloud mining. Just dont do it.


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: 1echo on November 01, 2014, 04:33:26 AM
knc ended up as scammers similar to BFL


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: gorgatron on November 01, 2014, 08:42:21 AM
So I have decided to take the plunge on buying some GH on KnC's cloud mining. I have 800 GH/s with them and I must say, the past 48 hours have been a bust! I've only mined .006 BTC in that time. I have 2 antminer S1's mining on ghash for 360gh/s and I get around .006-.007 BTC a day with that.... Anyone else having problems like this?

glad you posted this. i'll start by saying that i actually had good luck with their first generation of hardware miners. I was part of the October 2013 batch, and received mine 10 days late. sucked, but not the end of the world. when my BeagleBoard went kaput after ~3 months, I did have to cajole them a bit to convince them that flashing the Beagle wasn't doing the trick. they sent me replacement gear that somehow allowed me to has at ~30 GH/s faster than the original. I had to be belligerent to get the service, though.

I got into a discussion with Sam Cole at the time about how their products were overpriced, and I wanted to see them get into cloud mining, since, at the time, they were not on the same level of being crap as BFL was. I was tired of having gear at home, and could mining looked like an interesting alternative. BFL's price was too steep, IMO, and I didn't know how long I would have to wait (and if you have read other threads regarding BFL lately, it's not a secret that I used to work there - and I had ZERO confidence that they'd deliever cloud hashing in time for any investment to be profitable, unless BTC's value went up to something like $500+, but more like $700+, if I recall my calculations at the time....it's been many months since I've been involved with mining). I remember discussing with Cole that KnC would miss out on a huge opportunity, since the majority of new miners were often ignorant of how the technology worked, and that could mining would be a way to attract new customers interested in BTC, but not interested in maintaining the gear. He said they were looking into it. This was probably in February/March 2014, but my memory isn't the best on the timeline.

I knew they built 3 huge data centers, but had no idea they were selling mining contracts. So, they're shit, eh? Not surprising. They had potential coming out of the gate (like for 3 months lol), but they seemed to have gone the way of just about every BTC hardware mfg out there, which is to suck ass. Glad I sold my gear when I did, and thanks for the review on their cloud mining. I will definitely be sure to not consider them, should I decide to have anything to do with mining in the future. Thanks again!


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: mfaidzul on November 01, 2014, 12:05:50 PM
Rather than do cloud mining, might have better return sending the miners to a third-world country where stealing gigawatts of electricity is as easy as bribing the meter reader guy $30 a month...

Bangladesh do cross my mind..


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: bbeesley on November 01, 2014, 12:38:30 PM
Rather than do cloud mining, might have better return sending the miners to a third-world country where stealing gigawatts of electricity is as easy as bribing the meter reader guy $30 a month...


yes, because instead of investing thousands of dollars and trusting KNC, who might be crooks, I am better off sending thousands of dollars of equipment to a third world country and trusting someone who is a crook and willing to steal electricity for me.


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: Pepin on November 01, 2014, 02:01:02 PM
Rather than do cloud mining, might have better return sending the miners to a third-world country where stealing gigawatts of electricity is as easy as bribing the meter reader guy $30 a month...


yes, because instead of investing thousands of dollars and trusting KNC, who might be crooks, I am better off sending thousands of dollars of equipment to a third world country and trusting someone who is a crook and willing to steal electricity for me.


Here is the difference: KNC is scamming you, but your business partner in the third world country might be scamming you.


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: Paladin45 on November 01, 2014, 05:59:22 PM

Try other service: The newest with the most affordable mining contracts and highest payout is http://www.xxxx-mining.com/
I have been testing them since the start along with other cloud service. I am planning on posting a review on the cloud services.


LOL! These boys have SCAM written all over them, including the fact they've misspelled their own company name on their website.


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: Diabolic on November 01, 2014, 11:39:05 PM
Tried, paid, nothing.


Tried the same here. Totally nothing.


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: bitpop on November 01, 2014, 11:44:01 PM
Stop paying, knc is a scam


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: hulk on November 02, 2014, 12:39:39 AM
So I have decided to take the plunge on buying some GH on KnC's cloud mining. I have 800 GH/s with them and I must say, the past 48 hours have been a bust! I've only mined .006 BTC in that time. I have 2 antminer S1's mining on ghash for 360gh/s and I get around .006-.007 BTC a day with that.... Anyone else having problems like this?

You forget to factor in maintenance charges. Hashnest give me about the same payout..


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: bitpop on November 02, 2014, 12:43:14 AM
Holding is better than willingly giving someone your money then begging for it back


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: bbeesley on November 02, 2014, 02:22:21 AM

Here is the difference: KNC is might be scamming you, but your business partner crook in the third world countrymight will be scamming you.

there ...fixed that for you ;-)


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: CoinExpert on November 02, 2014, 03:15:11 PM
Hang in there people!!!!

https://www.getbitcoin.com.au/bitcoin-news/price-bitcoins-go-100000

Keep your eye on the prize

http://www.unixstickers.com/image/cache/data/stickers/meme/troll/Troll-face.sh-600x600.png


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: AdamSmith on November 02, 2014, 04:39:14 PM
Sad to see all mining manufactures turn out the same way.

Same thing appears to be happening for coin exchange also.


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: Searing on November 03, 2014, 05:19:48 AM
Sad to see all mining manufactures turn out the same way.

Same thing appears to be happening for coin exchange also.

only exception so far that is active in forums seems to be spondoolies-tech.....just waiting for them to backslide i sure hope not
they got me a refund where guite frankly they did not have to do so on their terms..and they offered i did not ask from a post
i made ...so figure i owe them a unit..but man..with btc price this low and difficulty high ..even if they come thru *unlike knc* and
next equipment will NOT be pre-order.....just can't get the numbers to fly

so the truth is KNC /spondoolies etc can't get the home numbers to fly (still on the fence about GAW see my tagline
some say they make $$$ others say not gonna see how it shakes out this month)

but home equip wise ...can find NO handle on that making ROI in any manner ...very sad


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: SamTsuedo on November 03, 2014, 05:22:37 AM
I don't trust cloud mining. Lost money before and it's a risky thing, might as well go to a casino, or play slot machines.


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: wunkbone on November 03, 2014, 05:28:23 AM
Don't fucking do it

Knc is a fraud
I would say that regardless of KnC's level of trustworthiness, their prices are well above what you could reasonably expect to earn from mining over the six months that you would be cloud mining with their hardware. 


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: tinof on November 03, 2014, 08:01:05 AM
All mining companies have negative expectation of profit right now if they mine themselves.

The only way for them to profit is to sell those over price ASIC miners to end consumers who have no clue on what they are doing.


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: bitpop on November 03, 2014, 08:10:56 AM
Knc lies through their teeth

http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/resellers-affilicates/general-questions/65252-knc-to-stop-selling-miners-mine-for-themselves


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: Kprawn on November 03, 2014, 09:12:10 AM
Well seems as though this is also being discussed here ---> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2l52wg/knc_is_a_fraud_if_you_dont_already_know/

And it's also a hot topic on other forums and chat rooms.  >:(


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: bitpop on November 03, 2014, 10:25:29 AM
Well seems as though this is also being discussed here ---> http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2l52wg/knc_is_a_fraud_if_you_dont_already_know/

And it's also a hot topic on other forums and chat rooms.  >:(

That's where I found it :)


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: philipaedie on November 10, 2014, 01:46:31 AM
Is anyone else having problems with KNC Cloud, I've been mining with them for about a month
all of a  sudden I can't get a payout


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: bitpop on November 10, 2014, 06:31:14 AM
Knc is pure fraud


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: keemao on November 10, 2014, 11:29:47 AM
Is anyone else having problems with KNC Cloud, I've been mining with them for about a month
all of a  sudden I can't get a payout

Same here..., and no answers... :/
I guess buying a jupiter didnt scare me enough ;)


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: IslamicCoin on March 14, 2015, 01:50:57 PM
Don't fucking do it

Knc is a fraud

if i had read this post before paying them ... i might be avoided from being robbed 250$ to knc cloud mining ........ now they are TIPING me from 0.11 to 0.50 $ a day .......  :'(  and i have to bear it for next 4 months ...  JESUS HELP ME


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: bitpop on March 14, 2015, 02:00:45 PM
Don't fucking do it

Knc is a fraud

if i had read this post before paying them ... i might be avoided from being robbed 250$ to knc cloud mining ........ now they are TIPING me from 0.11 to 0.50 $ a day .......  :'(  and i have to bear it for next 4 months ...  JESUS HELP ME

Never mine, just hodl


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: Snipe85 on March 14, 2015, 07:03:54 PM
Don't fucking do it

Knc is a fraud

if i had read this post before paying them ... i might be avoided from being robbed 250$ to knc cloud mining ........ now they are TIPING me from 0.11 to 0.50 $ a day .......  :'(  and i have to bear it for next 4 months ...  JESUS HELP ME

Never mine, just hodl

You're wrong. Mine, just do the math first.
To hodl you have to own coins first and mining does the job. There's just a big difference between mining with your hardware and in fake cloud operated by thieves.
Those who bought last year in q1 - q3 will surely disagree with the hodl advice ;)


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: picolo on March 15, 2015, 12:58:01 AM
So I have decided to take the plunge on buying some GH on KnC's cloud mining. I have 800 GH/s with them and I must say, the past 48 hours have been a bust! I've only mined .006 BTC in that time. I have 2 antminer S1's mining on ghash for 360gh/s and I get around .006-.007 BTC a day with that.... Anyone else having problems like this?

You forget to factor in maintenance charges. Hashnest give me about the same payout..

Maintenance charges change the results dramatically between a company that has low maintenance costs and one that has high maintenance costs.


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: Searing on March 15, 2015, 02:34:42 AM
Don't fucking do it

Knc is a fraud

if i had read this post before paying them ... i might be avoided from being robbed 250$ to knc cloud mining ........ now they are TIPING me from 0.11 to 0.50 $ a day .......  :'(  and i have to bear it for next 4 months ...  JESUS HELP ME


there are deeper levels of 'hell' with KNC ..ask the Neptune and Titan owners...be grateful.......you are not one of 'us' the knc damned (dramatic music insert here)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjPAWbk5jKc




Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: IslamicCoin on March 15, 2015, 09:33:49 AM
THEY ARE NOT PAYING A PENNY TO THE CLOUDMINING CONTRACTORS FOR LAS THREE DAYS ......
i think there is no corporate check and balance in SWEDEN


Title: Re: KnC Cloud Mining - it's a bust...
Post by: alani123 on October 05, 2015, 11:09:59 PM
Any updates on this? A scam all over again? Any proof of the claims in this thread like account screenshots or w/e?