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This Poll is for the burning question that MUST be asked.. Should Spoetnik Coin exist ?

Yet again today i had a guy tell me he would invest in Spoetnik coin if it existed on Poloniex's chat box.
I have also had other people bring up this idea a LOT before too.

So i bring you all this poll question..

And if so ? what kind of coin should it be feature wise and HOW should it be initially distributed ?
Also if yes what dev(s) are going to be involved and what famous person should help advertise ?
I think Daniel Tosh from Tosh.0 fame would be perfect.. he can be my Max Keiser LOL
Trade symbol ? NIK ?

We'll have coffee.. we'll talk.. so talk amongst yourselves ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee_Talk

Note: No moderation and Poll runs forever and you can change your vote.. thank your all for your time (and your vote)

try ripple based

i got a fast reply and a quick YES vote wow !

In all honestly i don't think i could get behind a fully premined type of coin but any ideas at all are welcome.

i'm also gonna leave this for a bit and let you guys post your opinions.
Then the Spoetnik Opinion Faucet will go live and FREE opinions (the correct one) for all  ;D

edit:
The thought of maybe being able to bring us all together to support one coin is intriguing.

A big NO
There is no need for another coin, the crypto landscape is to cluttered as it is. Unless you really have something innovative to bring, please don't. It would only be something to please your ego, that's pathetic...

Yeah right... Who do you think you are, God? What is it with these people who think they are all it because of the anonmous online profile.

Do it! Don't forget to make it PoS with 1500% yearly interest. Make a huge premine this way or that.

Please specify your preferred locations for refuge when you leave the country with all the money.. I always figured Thailand would suit my needs and can recommend that, but feel free to name any that come to mind and your attraction for them

Unless it will be a scam coin is waste of your time and resources to do it.

I know I'm being evil here, but how about issuing SpoetnikCoin on the Nxt Monetary System?
Nxt has just released the 1.3 update, 1.4 (in about a month) will introduce the MS, so you can then create your own coin, backed by 'locking' a certain amount of NXT.
No development, no mining, no hassle, just create and distribute...... ;D

Thanks for the coffee, I'll get my coat.

 

is that using those new TA opcodes those nerds were babbling about ? ..damn nerds and all their techno babble lol

Spoetnik thinks that is actually an intriguing idea !

I wonder though wouldn't you have to like try and Crazy Glue the pieces though ? see what i'm getting at ?
You would need way to make sure it's authentic like maybe have a heat stamp press a Penguin with AK into the plastic
centered right on the spot where the pieces match on different rotations or an official Spoetnik hologram sticker put on each lego piece ?

yup.. the future is almost here guys ;)

I voted no, we dont need another fud artist scammer making a coin. Thanks, Bye

bring back abstract coin :D

Perhaps he should just revive that one.

Yes, exactly. But first he should by a lot of it while it is cheap to comply with modern trends :)

You should try experimenting with POS only with fees going to the holders, also it would be best for it to be fully premined over a short period and distributed mostly with trusted escrow, less with exchanges. If you premine the entire thing that also means you can use sha256 for it so you end up with a much slimmer blockchain and you don't have the tens of thousands of inputs that multipools create so you can effectively decrease the size of the blockchain by some 50-60% so with a 2 minute blocktime you might have a 200mb Blockchain after a year.

Multiple loadable wallet.dats so that you can section off your coins in separate wallets so you aren't spending your oldest coins or even have seperate accounts.

Anon that generates masking addresses when sending to other people.

Coin control

Option to send using minimal coinstake

Adjustable Stake thresholds so you can set which the point at which your blocks will split or combine.

Bitmessage for escrow and smart contracts

Built in block explorer

Statistics (generally all the stuff you see in getinfo)

Stake for Charity

Built in trade api to trusted exchanges

Yeah you could probably do that by using statistics to build a 3d model of the Blockchain and a robot builds the Blockchain out out Lego, the robot would be called "Spoetbot the Magical Blockchain Builder" and you could do a youtube video out of it.

Oh man - and for THAT I temporarily unmuted Spoetnik, such a waste of time  >:(

well i am flattered you think my FUD is "art" but scammer now that is going too far.. i have never been involved in any scam before.
makes me wonder why you (and the other *usual whiny brat Trolls) would have such a grudge against me considering i don't even recall talking to you before.. odd :/

let me guess some other guy posted a topic claiming some coin was a Scam and i agreed so its all my fault ?  ::)

You guys realize a lot of guys think many of these coins are scams but you all try and pin it on me even if i had nothing to with making the topic right ?

You all lash out at me and Troll and abuse me to no end no matter where i go non stop 24 hours a day for anything negative in crypto that happens.
I say Mark was just caught shutting down GOX and then i am a Super FUD'er scammer and 8 of you dive on me for the next hour or two LOL
asking why i am so negative and i am too old to do this stuff and i am angry and just jealous and a paid FUD'er and and and ..
sure  ::)
I enjoy being your little scape goat whipping post for your scammy antics and you ponzi-cheeleaders LOL
Problem is if the so called evil FUD is NOT originating from me how is it your going to win by stopping me ?

I am not the Troll victim you are looking for ..i say in my Jedi voice ;)

huh weird i had no idea and Defaced i never heard of that..

a lot of these topics i have made lately have turned out to be incredibly informative for us all guys.. i'm learning a lot ;)

Sure why not.
Suggest following team:

Hazard as developer
Digitalindustry as scammer/miner/pumper/announcer
Bill still making some youtube videos.
You as troll
Some sockpuppets to cheer after launch (You may use your own imagination to think of some new accountnames)
EDIT

Don't forget to set up a foundation after a few months.

Guarantee for succes and fun at bitcointalk ::)


hm, by the way do you think spoetnik coin will exist longer than the coin of your friend Kolin Evans (digitalindustry)

How was that coin called again...think think....eh named after Kolin......oh I remember; Kopimicoin:

https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ann-kopimikoin-a-pre-listing-with-the-pirate-bay-certain-in-fact-its-there.134061/
http://www.kopimi.com/kopimi/

Yes, and it has to be an IPO coin of course.

♬♪ ♪♩♩♩ This Mousewheel Is Made For Scrolling, Scrolling Right Over You! ♪ ♪♩ ♩♩♬
... with a Daisy Duke attitude! The Lee Hazlewood song but better listen into the interpretation from Jessica Simpson

I vote yes!!

Spoetnik is just a little misunderstood. Spoetnik is our Al Swearengen.. Tough as hell with the best dialogue.

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/13/42/9a/13429abcf76bb3b57dfeea51ab00dad7.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-lCeL8JUG4

yes, if in the ICO everybody gets BTC for taking the coins instead of paying for them ;-)

maybe something like this for a logo?

http://s28.postimg.org/fc81xrdf1/images64_BH4_SB8.jpg

(obviously different since this is from an android app)

https://i.imgur.com/vwty8qw.png
1HceYnNAUv5zBjJUhEncmmvxU1C7yjWoX8
you're welcome

haha good call

I like the idea

Oh my, this is hilarious.  Elegant and direct.

If your not banned soon i am going to be pissed the fuck right off !

I am sick of Moderators letting little faggots follow me around trolling me.
no assholes i don't deserve it and am i going not to put up with it either.

if you snotty little shits have ANYTHING remotely on topic to say then lets hear otherwise STFU with the simple one line TROLLING insults on me personally.

for now on i will just start reporting you little brats..

edit:
i have reported 3 of you for Trolling to just to let you know.
- e-coinomist
- rokkyroad
- Crestington

I voted 'no', but maybe if you promise to implement the first Proof-of-Troll network I'll change my vote :P

Cmon man, take a joke, I thought it was a good idea and I could build your coin. I don't think you are really serious about this though, otherwise you would already know what you want and why.

Changed my vote to No

Crestington you have trolled pretty much every chance you can on me..
it would be an all day effort to go round up 30 examples and i have never reported you before.
it's time to just start reporting you guys.. your spamming this place with useless garbage.. ALL the time :/
and worst of all your not even funny LOL

I don't troll you Speotnik, you just post a lot and I like a lot of the same threads as you do. I don't think badly of you, you are just blunt and so many people here can't take it and start hate threads and it begins to feel like everyone is against you. I have respect for you, you don't take shit and this place needs people that can kick up a stir, otherwise it would to be so boring around here.

You must be joking right? or no... you are serious....really?

And then list it at cryptsy?

Even if you do know that previous coins of Spoetnik (Spaetacuscoin for example) and of his "close" friend digitalindustry (coffeecoin for example) are proven scam coins?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=698844.0

I thought cryptsy had some ethics  ::) not sure why I thought that   ???
I should have known better when you listed CAPS of course :D

Maybe

Cryptsy has a lawsuit pending, that is more serious. Still using it as an altcoin storage for the more hopeless coins.

On toppic, since we are brainstorming on a hypothetical coin: The dreams are getting smaller and smaller.

Bitcoin was once 1000 dollars and for a moment people believed it beeing valueable just like that.
URO is considered to be worth 300 dollars but nobody believes. About 0.49 % of daily trades happen related on URO, figure that.
CANN aims for 10 dollars and I had blown out 50% of my mine at all time high. Has 0.19 % of daily trades.
Admitting these numbers are below 1% because of Litecoin, Dogecoin or Bitcoin trades, dwarfing them.

Any new coin should at least aim on beeing valued as 1 dollar, like we see on NuBits.

AND should be mineable, why exactly? So people can belive in creating these coins. Without any believers there is no adaption for daily trades against goods or services. Would you accept a programmers job paid in coins? That would require a quick job done so you can sell on an exchanger immediately. We all know the Bitcoin chart is looking like all the 200 other altcoin charts listed on Coinmarketcap, just happening in slow motion.
On a "virtual 1 dollar coin" you could agree on work contracts lasting 8 weeks.



Just after these thoughs we are playing some more music to relax again
♬♪ ♪♩♩♩ This Mousewheel Is Made For Scrolling, Scrolling Right Over You! ♪ ♪♩ ♩♩♬

I have never had anything to do with making a coin other than making a miner mod AFTER the coin is made. (i say this DAILY)
I also don't recall every hearing a shred of proof digitalindustry made any coins.. maybe he did and maybe he didn't.
I do know that i have stuck up for him in defending Quark coin because of people lying about it.

There is no proof i have had ANYTHING ever to do with making a coin.. because i never did so it's simply not possible to get proof LOL

I do think it's funny how most of you vote 75% in favor of Crypto is doing great and you all mostly defend making more coins..
IF* someone else other than me makes one  ::)
Explain to me why it's fine for guys to clone non stop but if i even suggest making my first and only entry into the crypto market you all flip out ?
let me guess NO and you will all go back to trading today's popular soft-clone coin being hyped up right ?

oh and yup i am making up a new term for us all ..feel free to use it ;)
Soft-Clone (coin)
- a coin that has it's source code changed just enough so it can likely be called a fork and not simply a clone coin.

C'mon, Spoetnik!
You have to admit that you are Satoshi! :D

I disagree with it being POW mineable because it causes big losses for investors so the best option is POS only. POS is a whole different beast when compared to POW because you are trying to balance the whole ecosystem based on the potential Stake of all blocks.

One thing that EVERYONE overlooks is potential bloat, and so they say "oh my coin is so fast at 30 confirmation time" except that if the coin is POW/POS you have multipools mining for a low reward and splitting up that block into 1000 units, plus Staked blocks splitting in all other blocks and the fact that most blocks don't even have real transactions in them, then when people want to send transactions, all these inputs will need to be combined into each transaction, this adds a significant amount of data to the Blockchain and if combined with a GUI with little optimization, in a year or so it may take a week or more in order to sync a fresh wallet.

Questions to consider when making a coin:

What will be the size of the Blockchain be in 1-2 years and how long will it take for new users to sync their wallets?

What is the incentive to support the network and how can it always reward long-term holders even if everyone else is selling at a loss?

How will it be secure and decentralized?

What features will it have in order to improve anonymity and encourage merchant adoption?



All jokes aside, what do you want for the specs of SpoetnikCoin and why?

You could clone Dogecoin. Replace the dog with a rocket launching the Spu(oe)tnik satelite. Or keep the dog and just name it Laika! Welcome to the dark side.

The Legendary member bitpop had a coin (BitpopCoin) that was abandoned, so coins named after forum members are not always successful.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=665896.0

The possibility of having an abandoned coin associated with your account might be worth considering before you make a decision to launch a coin.

@Crestington
Interesting reply and i for sure agree with parts of what you said.
it's nice to see ANYONE chime in with some thought on the topic etc

It's not that i want to it's that i thought it would make a good topic.

and guys as much as *some of you hate me and think i am such a god damn monster..
in the last year or two i have been asked if wanted to make a coin etc a lot
or told i should ..guys telling me make one they would support it.

i'd really rather see us stop this fractured divide.. pointless to try though.
the whole thing is about greed.. so its doomed to fail. (this Altcoin crap)
unless people can get over the greedy selfishness we're all going nowhere fast !
and spare me the Titanic is sinking optimism bs.. it's just getting old and beyond stupid.. open your eyes and look around !

Each guy HAS to post just one more coin and make one more "fun" BTC profit ..in turn adding a pebble to a mountain of garbage.
i called this a looooong time ago and watched the mountain grow, and now that Mountain is fucking HUGE !
and it's going to come crashing down on the scattering greedy selfish idiots who built it.

another coin ? is there any point ? the ship is sinking guys !
i'd say maybe *if we were polarized and come together to support one coin.

and YOUR coin is so legit ?
well think of it this way.. YOU LOOKED and seen 1,000+ coins ALREADY made and said YES i want one more..
but mine is legit you all say.. yeah but it's.. ONE MORE !
do you guys get it yet ? or are we still playing dumb ? ..to support ONE MORE
then ONE more
and ONE more
and..

edit:
Thanks for your feedback etc guys..
some of the comments are pretty funny too.. coric ;) LOL

I agree with your points fully but new coins will never stop so why not make a coin and how can it be made to be profitable? Why even trade against BTC anyways?

The way Crypto is valued is a joke, if you have 25% of a Coin and you sell it all you will drop the value to 0, cause other people to sell which brings down the entire price of the asset and causes what is referred to as bagholding where you hold your coins for an indefinite period of time hoping for the price to rise so they can break even.

What if the entire float could be backed against something tangible so that it's value is based on the actual amount invested into it rather than purely on speculation? and I mean something beyond a nubits pairing, something to be walled off from the entire market so it's value is equal only to the amount that was actually invested into it?


Cryptocurrencies to me are more like Stocks in companies so if you were to treat it like a company then how can that company be profitable over the long-term and provide income for it's development?

Why do coins insist on the use of donations in order to support it's development? donations DO NOT WORK and will never work because this is about money and if you own coins, you want to sell it for profit. If you rely on donations alone there is this massive inbalance in which whales own a large amount and contribute nothing but smaller holders contribute a much higher amount. Also, if the price drops by 50% good luck gathering donations for funding of hosting, nodes, websites, development and marketing. If all funding is based only in the Cryptocurrency and there is problems with the code, it renders all use of funds frozen so even if you wanted to pay someone to fix it, you can't even use the Cryptocurrency.

next month will be a year that I have been in this place, I've seen more than 1000 coins rise and fall and have been reading and reasearching as much as I can. I'm up to the point now where I can make a coin in it's entirety including wallets and nodes etc. but I have never released a coin because I don't feel good about watching people lose money by my hand.

FTW, Spoetnik-CFA Approved TM

~CfA~

+1
We need high security and this is the only way. Go the Physical Blockchain!!!
We just need to make sure his dog doesn't 51% attack the network by eating it.

It'll be a great excuse for when Spoetnik "Breaks Bad" and runs off with everyones funds:
Sorry, my dog ate the blockchain....

Don't think any dodgy coin dev/exchange operator/general scammer has ever tried that one before.

Just out of curiosity. What do you guys think about the proof of faucet, by Miraclecoin? Surely there were some cheaters, with multiple computers running on different IPs, but it seems to have spread to more users than most POW coins.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=822317.0


Spoetnikcoin would certainly have a passionate dev, which would immediately make it better than 90% of the crap out there. Why not? We've all mined or bought much worse shit lol. I voted YES. If it failed it would be a hilarious ride, if it succeeded it would be way more hilarious. Who doesn't love a good laugh.

If you make this, I wish you good luck and success Sir Spoetnik.

No duhh.. you are correct. you (and digitalindustry) never created one single coin. Just because you both lack the knowledge to create one.
The coins you scammed were created by a copy coin service (from Hazard or Shake).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208578.0

That digitalindustry did it, was more than obvious with kopimicoin.
I want to show you again, if you missed my first post here: http://www.kopimi.com/kopimi/

Speaking about Quark....What you can take over from Quark is to use a very fast block time, and at launch set the block time a little bit faster (just like Quark did);
So you can announce it and mine with a blocktime of 10 seconds instead of the 30 or 60 or whatever seconds you announce.
What were the people lying about according to you?

(Hazard is a good suggestion to create such a fast blocking coin for you because he created flashcoin once: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=222450.0)

I don't think you have any knowledge of coins or you would know that 10 second Blocktimes (based on Quark no less) is a recipe doomed to fail.

Really? I have no knowledge?

Check this page and look to the time stamps:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=701469.msg7927663#msg7927663

To make it easier for you I summarize and calculate it for you:

block 1: 13:03:50
Block 2: 13:04:06 (=16 seconds block time)
block 100: 13:14:18 (=average block time of 612 seconds/100 blocks = 6 seconds!)
block 1000: 14:42:58 (=average block time of 5932 seconds/1000 blocks = 6 seconds!)

With the 30 second blocktime of Quark you would expect:
Block 100 after: 100*30 seconds = 50 minutes. Not 10 minutes after launch
Block 1000 after: 1000*30 seconds = 500 minutes = 8 hours and 20 minutes. Not 1 hour and 38 minutes after launch.


What do I not understand of coins  ::)

Since you are so educated  ::) in coins you can check it yourself in the Quark block explorer:

http://qrk.blockr.io/

You can just fill in block 1, 2, 3, 4 and look to the time stamps. Quark was mined every 10 seconds or something, not the expected 30 seconds.

And yes the fast block time caused a lot of orphans...just like it did with flashcoin.
You can read the frustration of the miners after launch: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.msg2774252#msg2774252

That is not what the Blocktime is set at that causes that but the starting difficulty. With a low starting difficulty and a longer retarget time you get what is called instamining where the first blocks are mined at a much faster rate until the hashrate evens out.

FlashCoin actually had 10 second Blocktimes but anything under 30 seconds (as you mentioned with Quark) causes a lot of Orphan Blocks because of the latency between miners.

Blocktimes and the protocol are number one, if for example SpoetnikCoin had 30 Second Blocktimes, now that may seem fast but it's effect is it can cause more orphan blocks and more data added to the Blockchain than it needs because Spoetnikcoin would not be something you would buy cups of coffee with (more of an asset), so you would not have transactions in every Block. This creates a lot of empty Blocks so the Blockchain grows at a much faster pace than it needs to. A large amount of Blocks will make your wallet take a very long time to Sync to the highest Block.

IMO 1-3 minutes is good, 2 minutes is about the time I think is most optimal

Also, if I remember right there were Coins that hardforked for faster Blocktimes.

Ok thanks for the explanation.

Spoetnik would be happy , he doesn't need to lower the blocktime. He can start with a very low difficulty. It has the same effect  8)

Thanks man and for not making me scroll over my own quoted rants
..that is the ultimate slap in the face when these guys quote me and i have to mouse wheel in high gear over my word salad LOLOL

I want to update people i appreciate any feedback no matter it good or bad etc.. thanks everyone :)

i think i have an idea and i would not call it new because it's popped up many times for me.
and my idea is not revolving any way around technical code that will have to be made from scratch.

what i have in mind is a massive refresh of an existing coin i think..
one that if played well enough could generate a lot of new users maybe.
think of it as pretty much a springboard off a famous guy ;)
and one that won't sue us i *think hahahha

yes i thought of JPC right away but i am not sure those JPC guys would be down for one of Spoetnik's crazy idea's
i also just had a guy tip me off about a coin that has the similar specs i was interested in but was abandoned.
this re-use idea is good because will give added value to existing coin holders :)

the potential idea has a lot of potential with social media and video remixing and photoshoping and insane bullshit that could fuck with people heads !
if i was gonna do it ? ..i would go big and would ruffle some feathers and i would have it done with trade mark Spoetnik sick sense of humor ..see Ebola coin ;)
Ya coins bitch ! ..mutha fuckin' altcoins buy 'em or else ! ..or eat them ! <- dropped a big hint what its about
cool people will get it ;)
i also have a known weird fucked up service i wanna tie into it as well that i had already contacted way back about altcoins seriously by email.

so you all wanna rattle the world's cage and tip their boat with me ?
let's throw 'em all in the water and charge them to get back in the boat..10 Spoetnik's coins please or drown loser ..this is the cool people boat dammit !!!

and hey if you don't like my idea then your wrong and don't fuck with fuck !

AHHAHA that is fucking hilarious and we know it's gonna happen now.. i bet some guy is planning it as we speak LOL

edit:
@silvermetal
i can assure you i am dead serious when i have not made a coin.. i don't know how many times i have to say this lol
and no i never had anyone make one for me in and stretch way or fashion in the slightest !

digitalindustry.. may or may not have, i don't know.. i can not keep tabs on what he does.. ask him ;)

all i know about links to him and Quark is i was in on Quark mining it like everyone else around here after maybe a week or two after launch
and spend time working on various miners for it trying to improve miner performance and running some experiments etc
and maybe the design of it is bad but guys.. hindsight is 20/20 and we have learned a lot on how to make better coins since then (it was a long time ago)

silvermetal i have never seen a shred of proof the guy that made Quark coin was linked to Hazard or Shake either.. proof ?

you know if it's not too much too ask can you post some proof to back up your wild claims ?
because it gets tiring having guys Troll me to death claiming i have 20 accounts and 20 coins when i have ONE !
believe me or don't what do want me to do here ? is there some way i can prove it to you all ?

@Bozuatle thanks and to the rest of you for all your ideas and suggestions they will all be taken seriously :)
and that picture you posted Bozuatle may be better for a BitJohn Coin LOL edit'z = i have reason to believe BJ may be good with a gun ;)
thanks for your vote BJ ;)
and Bozuatle tell me about it.. i have back some shitty ass coins by random nobodies myself LOL

But then someone else can too with more mining power.

You can control that with the availability of the amount of nodes? Seems that quark had done that in that way? Also just announce it not too big right after start, you can Edit and improve your announcement later.

@ spoetnik,  with my mobile I can't copy links. You have to wait a few more hours before I can post some proof. Thank you for your patience!

 
Spoetnik Coin must take all the most scammy elements from all the scam coin.

Post anything you want ..it will be lies because i have never made a fucking coin (in any way) dumb ass LOL
and i have one fucking account.

This sad bag holder is pissed off because i have laughed at him endlessly as he has tried to hide & forget his Memory Coin scam antics LOL
and laughed at him for how he has fallen for the dev's scams over and over.. while worshiping the guy Free Trade (MEG PTS Protshares etc dev) etc
Look at his post history and then factor in, i think Memory Coin / MEG is the most clever scam in crypto ever !
And THIS GUY was bag holder no. 1 hahahha

Better get off your mobile phones so you can come get me kids.. let's see what ya got LOL

Bagholder ? I never had more than 0.5 BTC of Memorycoin.
I was hopping mining Memorycoin could fund my new computer but it turned on fire.
It is still in the corner of my room.
I bought a good laptop instead.


My dead computer  :-\
http://bitcoin-gratuit.fr/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/rig_SuperResistant.jpg

@Spoetnik

In terms of adoption I don't see how it could fail, what are you thinking in terms of algo's, rewards, etc.

Here's a little logo pic as well

http://s30.postimg.org/qjd13ci0x/Spoetnik_Coin.png

Love it, Cresty!  ;D

Edit: The algo should be X25 (X17 + eight more NIST comp first round algos - arirang, chi, crunch, fsb, lane, lesamnta, md6 and sandstorm)

2 weeks after launch?
As usual I have no idea what you and digitalindustry are discussing about but look who is there after 13 hours in the Quark thread.
And you post there if you didn't mine it already for 13 hours? don't make me laugh.
Also notice that you post 30 seconds after your friend digitalindustry. Coincidence?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.msg2777617#msg2777617


No problem, here you are: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.msg3727460#msg3727460

Why is somebody who is creating hundreds of coins, writing an article about a coin which he doesn't create or is involved with?
It is the same as Pepsi making an advertisement for Coca Cola (to speak in Quark terms). Is that logical?
For me the article is enough evidence that Hazard was involved in the creation of Quark.

Also take the following into account:
- Hazard doesn't want to be correlated with (the ) crap coins he created for others(see the post here, hazard created for example Nibbles but di didn't want to correlate him with Nibbles and other (crap) coins. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=222216.msg2336810#msg2336810)
- Hazard has a clone coin service. Quark is a clone of Sifcoin, created one month before Quark.
- Hazard likes to create coins and instamine or premine them (see kopimicoin). His whole scamming tactics was described in this thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=222216.0
As explained few posts before by "crestington" (if you paid attention) Quark is instamined


Shake is a different story. He explained to me his role in Quark. I guess you might have read the same e-mail from Shake as I have, where he explained his role.

Sure sure Spoetnik may make wild claims. I have to present proof. Special for you above is what you asked for.


Nope you can't, because you would only lie more. (just the same as digitalindustry does).

Quark was known to be instamined for the first few Blocks (as you mentioned) but I don't see how this is relevant since it was mined by a lot of people, it just means that the first number of Blocks had a bit of an advantage. Quark is still around and has it's own set of forums so yeah it was probably a bit shady but then I did hear all the promoting of Quark with Bill Still and everything yet my rationale was that Quark was one of a bunch of new Coins but you have a lot of new coins being created so unless everyone unanimously adopted a currency named Quark, you always need people buying it.

Investment 101 is that you do not want to be buying on the peak of a pump, some people lost and some people won. If you think there was a lot of wrongdoing, you could start a thread in the scam accusation section with all relevant proof but I think it's too long ago for you to ever get the evidence you are looking for.

Add LOL and FUD, since most coins are fuelled from those algos.

AND get the FSB, Federal'naya sluzhba bezopasnosti Rossiyskoy Federatsii outa there asap!

Why post it in the scam accusstion section if spoetnik demands providing proof here? Besides I provide Spoetnik free tips for his spoetnikcoin.

The icon is awesome thanks for taking the time to do that i Love it :)

@silvermetal
hmm what can say you got me..  naaaaaaawt LOL

i don't know who you are or where you came from or why you all of a sudden popped up from out of no where to slander the shit out of me.
but your wrong.. dead wrong 100%
and i am writing this to tell you..

1 = i am writing a faaaaar bigger reply shooting your ass down in flames point by point.

2 = that i really want to just call you a massive idiot BUT i am trying not too because i think you believe what your saying.. why i don't know.

so let me try and say as nicely as i can.. your wrong ! simple as that.. your off base on this entirely 100%
and you can believe me or not but you have no smoking gun and you have been grasping at straws big time with me and digitalindustry and now Hazard/Shake too.

so i suggest you take up your issues with digitalindustry/kolin i don't know what he does, you have to ask him and that goes for Hazard/Shake too.
i can only go by what those two other guys told me and both of them have never said anything of the sort that you are implying here period.

I don't care what people think eh.. if i wanted to say i mined Quark on day one i would.. but i didn't ...so i am not going admit something i didn't do ever !

I DO know some guys have a massive hard on for Trolling digitalindustry non stop and i have stuck up for him which means i am him to some of you.
he's a smart guy and he deserves to be backed up when NXT devs and/or Cheerleaders have come after him.
So it's fishy both of us have gotten into it a lot before with NXT cheerleaders then you show up.. a rather large coincidence.

I'd almost guarantee you are behind coins and are trying to discredit me out of spite.. because some of us bashed your shit you posted.
or maybe you seen me talking and just don't like me and wanna fuck me over, i don't know.

i do not remember talking to you before silvermetal and i have no idea who the hell you are.
but i have criticized a lot of coins and gotten childish trolling for it 24/7
so i am left grasping at straws trying to figure out who you are or why i should care what you think.

If making up bold face lies you know are 100% false is what makes you feel like a big a shot on the internet then go hard.. i just think it's sad and pathetic.
And i have sweet fuck all to hide.. if i made a coin i would say so.. if i mined Quark on day one i would just say so.. why would i bother hiding it ?
don't you all think i'd just spit it out and argue about it or something ? LOL

so 2 weeks after launch ?
YES = my best guess is, it was prob closer to 3 weeks to be honest.
I know because i remember clearly kicking myself in the ass ignoring the ANN topic here on Quark for sooo long.
And believe it or not i don't dive on shit and start mining coins like a lot of guys.. I watch first and have always been like that.

that link you quoted was digitalindustry having a jab at Quark sort of, mentioning a new trend.. CPU mined coins !
and all i said is i agreed.. so your wrong.. and hell yeah i stand behind what i said.

I was mining Quark early on but still too late.. i was getting fuck all when i started trying on some P2Pool(s)
and by that time my Intel Core2Duo e7500 was not exactly making me rich LOL

I ended up soon having to drop it entirely because i could not get a single share accepted on the pool's.
i shit you guys not that my miner would run with 0 shares accepted and most of the coins i got
were from guys in Cryptsy chat that felt sorry for me and had given me some.

Right away guys were starting to rent servers to mine Quark and i was not nor have i ever rented a server of any kind.
which meant i was squeezed out of the coin (hash speed wise) and when SRC / Securecoin came along i made sure to try and get in on that, on day one !
SRC was the first clone of Quark's algo and mimic'd Bitcoins block stats and reward etc with no premine..
And again running just my Intel Core 2 Duo E7500 CPU mining was not making me rich LOL

Then, we have your proof Hazard is behind Quark LOL
And it's funny you linked to that topic and not the link he posted on it to his blog etc..
which says = http://cryptolife.net/quark-is-it-worth-buying <- NOV 26th 2013 ..wwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay late on Quark by the way ;)
And i think the link is self explanatory ;)
I read what he said and all it says is he bought some Quark coins..
here you guys read it..

So notice he said that, NOV 26, 2013 and Quark came out on July 21, 2013
So read that and tell me does it sound like he made the coin ? And if he really did then why did he wait 4 whole months to say it's an interesting buy ?
Quark ANN = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.0
You said, "Why is somebody who is creating hundreds of coins, writing an article about a coin which he doesn't create or is involved with?"
Why ? he prob wanted to make some money /case closed LOL

and you said.."- Hazard has a clone coin service. Quark is a clone of Sifcoin, created one month before Quark."
SIF coin ANN topic RE-Posted by an English guy from an orig RUS ANN topic..
[ANN][SIC] Sifcoin - inflation fork - June 22, 2013, 04:40:27 PM - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240894.0

And here is the RUS ANN topic.. (posted same day as above)
Sifcoin (Инфляциoный фopк). Cтapт 2013-06-23. - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=240884.0

In all honesty i never looked at SIF coin until now.. they do seem to have a similar algo system but i don't see how that pertains to anything.
Nobody paid ANY attention to SIF coin back then eh.

and Quark is instamined ? you said ?
funny you say that.. same shit i have heard from NXT attacking assholes who bashed me and Kolin/digitalindustry and Quark non stop with lies.
It was no more flash mined then any coin back then and the more popular the worse they were hit.. especially if they were CPU coins like Prime coin !

you said then..
"Shake is a different story. He explained to me his role in Quark. I guess you might have read the same e-mail from Shake as I have, where he explained his role."
I have never gotten an email or even a PM here from Shakezulu that i remember and if you did then why didn't you post it ?
what did it say ?
"he explained his role" ?? oh he did huh ? i don't believe you.. i am confident your lying LOL

ALL of the crap you posted is retarded gibberish and you know what ? i changed my mind your a massive fucking Idiot LOL
And the more i look at things the clearer it's become your a fucking little NXT bitch trying to trash on us because we bad mouthed NXT
The fact you have this massive big ass agenda to defame Quark and kolin AKA: digital industry in relation to him attacking NXT seals the deal !
Actually i have YOU pegged.. your an asshole and your starting with me because i backed up kolin on his many topics/comments on NXT.
Other wise you would not have spent 75% of your response bashing him and that coin.

You finished by saying..
"Nope you can't, because you would only lie more. (just the same as digitalindustry does)."

Wrong, i have not lied about anything and if you have a problem with that other guy take it up with him..
You have no proof i made a coin and you failed at proving Shakezulu / Hazard or even digitalindustry made Quark.. you accusations are laughable.

try again..

It will be only legitimate coin!

Wow did I hit a sensitive nerve somewhere?
What a swearing and so much defence...
And only after posting some tips for your spoetnik coin....

Why is Quark so sensitive for you as you had only painful experiences with it?

So much questions and text to comment on...let me find some back between the swearing....


How do you know Hazard bought Quark? I can't find that back in the article?...or no that is your interpretation....well my interpretation is that he mined it. But let's stick to the facts. We both agree he held a significant amount of Quark at that time, otherwise he had not written that article.


As I explained before...Hazard don't want to be correlated with the coins he made...
He, and digitalindustry waited four months with marketing because of the model of Quark.
After four months the Quark reward dropped to maybe 8 or 4 Quark every 30 seconds? (at launch it was 2048 Quark every 30 seconds) and miners could not significant influence the price of Quark anymore by dumping Quark at exchanges.
If he marketed the coin earlier then it could never have the same pump effect as it had in November 2013.


Again, you didn't pay attention. I didn't say that; I quoted "crestington" who said it. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=833442.msg9342616#msg9342616


Oh I thought digitalindustry shared everything with you ;). Anyway Shake did this for Quark (and played a role in creation of b9 coin):

https://github.com/MaxGuevara/quark/commit/20f503b6d45fb8359d2a656982907688f6b51d4f

He didn't play an active part in creation of Quark.


Hm further I see only more swearing, abusing, and more words better not to quote.

No your just an idiot hurling a million nasty false accusations for some odd reason and don't flatter yourself thinking you got a rise out of me.

i never made a coin so your wrong now fuck off brat.

if you have a problem with Hazard or digitalindustry or Quark coin i suggest you take it with them now FUCK off kid.

can't handle the swearing cocky little shit ? too fucking bad.. eat a bag of dicks..

http://i59.tinypic.com/2ebtuub.jpg

Headeduptheriverinaboatwithnopaddle


Tra la la la la-la la laaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

No problem with the swearing, but you use the same tactics as your friend. The swearing confuses people and brings people off track. Not sure why you use that tactic now? also I notice a lot of self reflections in your post....

Anyhow all the best with your spoetnikcoin. And I changed my opinion to NO

I am curious, do you take this poll seriously?

Would I buy spoetnik coin if it existed? Nope

If you have read all my posts in this thread then it is obvious that I don't take spoetnik serious at all..

No coin community wants a spokesman like spoetnik, it will be embarrassing and a disaster...
A good example is Quark when digitalindustry stepped forward as spokesman for Quark...
Believe me, there will not be much different between spoetnik and digitalindustry

The sad thing is that spoetnik takes this poll seriously

I doubt

I hope you are correct, and spoetnikcoin died before it has been ever launched ;)

 
This is now a Spoetnik trolling thread.

Can we get back on track of building SpoetnikCoin?

self reflection time..

would i buy yours ? hmmm Jeff8247 Coin has a certain ring to it LOL

and by the way i swear for dramatic effect to give my comments a saucy flair and certain spoetnik'ish spicy'ness only i can deliver :)

i grew up swearing on occasion swearing in my family home but also in earlier days on the internet where it was common place.
i also like to make up words too, such as this one..

Soft-Clone:
- a digital-currency clone coin that is a fork of a coin changed just enough to say "it's different"

i'm also more than happy to spell words wrong and tell a guy accusing me of wrong doing to Troll on me to Fuck Off too !
you see guys i am not making or supporting million dollar scam coins then following people around trolling on them personally 24/7.

If you don't like how i talk then maybe.. go create an account / coin about it

Your Train of wrong never ends eh LOL
I was never in any way a spokesman for Quark.
the closest thing maybe was Jackpotcoin which has been a success as far as i am concerned and did far better than i ever thought would.
and even that is a stretch.. i don't speak for the coin or other users, i just flogged it around a bit by adding it to my sig and stuff :)
I've never been a spokesman for any coin.

but feel free to loiter around in front of Spoetnik's 7:11 hanging out in the parking lot with your friends spouting off lies and bullshit..
I just feel sorry for you and your little buddies because you have no where to go and nothing better to do..
I am sorry Daddy did not take you out to play catch in the yard just don't take it out on me son !

PS:
Altcoins are serious Business !

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/009/986/internet-serious-business-cat.jpg

LOL aren't they all ?
And what do you mean ? am i trolling them or are they trolling me ?

Maybe a few of these cocky little Fail-Trolls i keep knocking on their ass should tuck their cocky little tails between their legs and scurry off
before i mock them further or they end up on this web page.. https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php

These will be the Official Trade Rules Spoetnik Approved® for my new coin too !
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Rules_of_Acquisition

That was the on-topic part ;)
You see how easy it is to do guys ?

and here is a Troll.. Google search this chicks name.. Zoe Quinn
her Trolling resulted in CNN headlines news recently.. death threats and the whole thing going viral big time LOL
News web site forum with good summary and core links to the drama = http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1226729-journalistic-integrity-in-the-gaming-press-is-shot/

Oh and since i know for a fact most of you have no clue what Trolling means i will give you the correct Spoetnik Approved™ version ;)


Most of you can't see me address the topic(comment) point directly, flesh out my point(s) in detail and and then come back to the start and hammer it home.
Many of you are lost in left field half way with a complete lack of comprehension to what is going on LOL

starting point was Trolling.. i went off in Orbit and landed right on the X on the landing pad ;)

SO..

Remember, no Altcoin can go To The Moon unless it gets past Spoetnik orbiting your crypto'z !
so come to terms with it, it's happening, so let it all wash over you and be at one with divine teachings of the one and only Spoetnik®

and by the way i am the one who told Corey Hart to wear his sunglasses at night too  8)

Did I say "spoetnik was spokesman for Quark" ???
nope
I said "digitalindustry stepped forward as spokesman for Quark"

You and your friend are probably so close with each other that you can't distinguish yourself with di anymore?

naw just applying the same exact rules of proof you applied to me with your accusations earlier ;)
this whole sort of sketchy pull shit out of thin air to support lies game you seem to be addicted to.
funny you like dishing it out but have a problem when it's served back to you huh ?

and "friend"
I have never talked to him before LOL
That is some friend ahahha
I have had plenty of PM's with BitccoinExpress for example and none with that guy..
Seriously we have never had a conversation about anything i think even once LOL
At most maybe 12 times in 1.5 years i have commented on one of his topics that i agreed with him and liked his comment.

and by the way your brutal obsession with digitalindustry is well rather telling now isn't it ?
he said some shit before and i said i agree.. thaaaaaaaat's about guy ahhahah
so what in gods name are you STILL going on about here ?
I told you already if you have some issue with that guy then go take it up with him.

I am Spoetnik.. no one else. /end of story

Lol

1. I'd never make a coin.
2. I wouldn't name it after myself because I'm not that vain.
3. You asked for opinions so be prepared to hear comments that you won't like.
4. Go ahead call me noob, retard etc it doesn't bother me.

Remember children arguing on the internet is just that, childish.

Best of luck with the coin!

I gave you other peoples opinions if you bothered to read the topic.. i've had a LOT of guys say i should make my own coin
and i recently had multiple guys tell me they would invest no questions asked in a coin called Spoetnik Coin
so i didn't name shit all.. they did.
i also never said i wanted to do that either(name it after me) ..and who says i am not prepared for opinions i don't like ?
i have no problem with opinions, it's liars who claim i made coins before or that i am countless other people i may have a problem with (and be forced to "address")
feel free to put words in my mouth to *try and argue with me though i don't care LOL

you'd probably understand WHY people suggested i make a coin with my name on it if you weren't a noob, then you'd "get it"
so feel free to ask questions..

and who is arguing ? about me being digitalindustry ? yea i guess.. i'm not LOL
so... uhhh..... what else are we arguing about ? fill me in please.

by the way, i think you're a Retard  8)

keep arguing with me and don't forget to let me know when you won eh.. i'll have a plate of cookies and a warm glass of milk ready for ya ;)

I might have to make a coin with my name on it just piss people off though LOL

Okay, I think we can add lol and fud to the list.
But fsb is a must, for security reasons. Besides, fsb specializes in counter-espionage and organized crime - plenty of those in crypto.
So we're now looking at the first ever X27 coin.

I voted YES.

You deserve a proper reply for this ;)

I am impressed if you made it eh well done you have some skill !

And i want to add that i have been tied up with attacks here as you can see which derailed the ability for me to talk about REAL coins ideas :(
Clearly these other pricks came simply to line up in a long line and take turns having a jab at me.. reminds me of a Family Guy skit/cut away LOL

I don't want to throw my idea on the table in full yet but it would most likely involve re branding and theming of an existing coin rather than a new one.
Why ?
To attract more NEW users to crypto !
Plus it would be fun (with my trade mark sick humor) and maybe we could make some profit with it all too.. bonus :)
And it would not revolve around my name or identity !

Yeah I think that may be your biggest challenge, keeping the trolls at bay while trying to get work done on it. I've been through a few copies of prototype proof of stake coins myself so I'd like to help you where I can as well. How much do you know about Proof of Stake? I was thinking about pos, with low inflation but a big emphasis on fee sharing through Proof of Stake. TBH, nxt freaks me out, so complicated and so many hacks.

What about some kind of open building challenge of building a hypothetical coin and what it would have and then narrow it down to the basics and work with that?

Yeah you could fork a Blockchain to change the name, it's rewards etc. like hyperstake did except you would want to have a predictable supply over time.

Very very very bad idea!

I will give you one more advice;

If you don't want to be correlated with digitalindustry (and distinguish yourself a little bit more from him), then don't take over his strategy:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=781954.0

Who are they?

I can't believe that one single rationale thinking person think this is a great idea...

yes................................

Digitalindustrycoin too, which sounds quite significantly better, but still both are plausible

FUD's as the unit ? now i like that idea :)
I was thinking NIK's LOL

I'm sold. Especially after seeing the endorsement of bluemeanie.
Take all of my money Spoetnik. Please.

this was quoted for Mr Obsessed with digitalindustry
and Prime agreed too sarcastically i am pretty sure but he/they support these coins they just added HYP now didn't they ?
pretty sure Prime STILL works for Cryptsy just uses a diff name i'm guessing and you all should know Bitjohn does.
so "silverindustry" there is your ONE guy ;)

and hey silverman because of your nagging & shit i am now thinking of starting one with him LOL

hey guys if a bunch of shady deceitful corrupt cloners can do it why can't i ?
is there a requirement you have to be a fucking piece of shit with a high minimum quota of coins "contributed to" or "experimented" with for "fun & profit" ?

many of you know damn well i am looking at you point blank in the eye and laughing at your raging HYPocrisy LOLOL

and wow for the love of mother fucking god why is that twisted fucker so bloody obsessed with following me around bashing digitalindustry ?
i am impressed how you manage to keep trying to work his name into the topic though it shows real dedication to your TROLLING ahhahah

edit:
@rugrats, I had no idea that guy was involved with the picture, i just thought it was funny and it was ignored here fast.. i almost missed it.

Sorry if people feel like their being ignored here.. the feedback is appreciated, just not the constant accusations of lying about alt accounts i have or coins i made before..
and of course Mr obsessed with digitalindustry.. that crap sure derails the topic hard and fast.. maybe that is their goal ?
hmm...
I wonder if the mods would sticky some info for me ? and that would be..
- Spoetnik never made a coin and has one account.

because the amount of forum comments here that accuse me of it is ridiculous, same goes with the Trust Rating crap jabs.

Yep Bitjohn...you got me ;)
Reminds me to withdraw my coins from there, I thought cryptsy was run by rationale thinking persons with some ethics...naive me.

A collaboration between spoetnik and digitalindustry...bitcoin will fear the most extreme competition (in your dreams)

And finally you are taking over some of my suggestions..
I remember I suggested to collaborate with di in my first post of this thread

Butt...with re-branding hazard will not feel included? You will miss the oppurtunity to have an article about spoetnikcoin written by him.

It is nice idea. But  there some questions that appears when i put more thoughts in it.
Did developers paid some founds to Spoetnik, since they obviously used his name? If they say no, but he agreed to give his name, that would be so noobish. Latter when coin will get huge success, he wil just change his mind and want coin gets renamed or he gets paid well. If devs throw him some peanuts now all would get set since he would get paid and case closed.

There are more questions, but this is already so important that from the devs reaction it will be seen if it is worth to invest your so hard hodled BTC in it.

No worries. I understand.
You do however, owe me a PM.  ;)

Nothing wrong with the person Digitalindustry. He can be a very amicable person.

I only dislike his behavior. He deceives and manipulates people, and he has a serious mental illness. I hope he get some help for that.

When I read the following article, I thought hm..maybe, maybe... (not saying he has this, I am not a psychiatrist)
http://betabeat.com/2013/03/me-and-you-and-everyone-we-know-the-many-many-many-faces-of-internet-multiples/

It is a rather long article, but one quote was interesting:

"For many multiples, the world seems curiously black and white: they are multiple, but do not have multiple personality disorder. They are different, but not sick. It’s incredibly complicated for a reporter to pick through, to discern who is telling the truth, who is lying and who sincerely believesthey are telling the truth but may not be. Without speaking to their psychiatrists—a profession they largely shun—or people in their lives who disagree that they are multiple, it was nearly impossible to determine who to believe. But if they were living happy, healthy, fulfilling lives, did it really matter whether they were truly multiple or not?""

@Unbelive
I hear what your saying but i would not use my name for the coin i think.. i never really liked that idea.
but your comment would still make sense if i used my name and infamy around here as being an "evil troll" etc to hype up a coin.
so i get what your saying i really do and i appreciate your showing some intelligence here and not just blindly trusting any of us.

sure i'd like to be trusted but i advise you guys not trust me either.. i have always said i would sell out probably.
but would i get the opportunity and what kind would it be ? how tempting would it be ? I think we ALL have a price !!!
Like if some guy came along and said hey Spoetnik gimme your forum account for 100k usd in Bitcoin right now.. i'd say where do i send the password ? deal !! LOL

I hope to be judged on my actions and my track record.

@silvermetal
WOW you don't give up do you ?
Do really need to keep spamming my topic here about that guy ?

Need an icon set? Hal style!

http://s27.postimg.org/ncfvfjhb3/orb.png
http://s27.postimg.org/x8gyf6n33/home.png
http://s27.postimg.org/8mzmos4f3/send.png
http://s27.postimg.org/hcs4bvwin/receive.png
http://s27.postimg.org/b6qo552lb/addressbook.png
http://s27.postimg.org/61u219f1b/statistics.png
http://s27.postimg.org/ksk8lftr3/block.png

Edit: Yes I made these icons along with the logo I last posted since you asked about it before but I like SZZT's logo more than the one I made, much cleaner (and cooler).

Spoetnik we need proof of developer

sorry i don't buy into that stuff..

This is great. LOL

@Spoetnik

How do you think it could be done where a person has their own coins but limited influence over the funds of the network? Let's be realistic here, everyone plans to sell some coins at some point but then what ways do you think would be best so that a person is guaranteed that they cannot get more than what they own themselves?

For me, I'm all about POS because POW will always create sell pressure on the markets no matter how low the reward so it's simply better not to have it at all. With POS only, all blocks of transactions work like miners on the network, gathering coinage into each of the block until it gathers enough coinage in order to be selected to Stake on the network. Difficulty re targeting then matters alot depending on what your minimum/maximum coinage is along with fees to either be collected or destroyed through stake.

If fees were higher and paid through Stake, then Stakers are paid interest, plus fees of the network that it would be more lucrative to Stake at a lower inflation so it encourages people to Stake their coins. The thing is though that if you have POS only with which you pay fees through Stake is that you can destroy a large portion of coins in one block and have them collected by whoever Stakes the next block, so then does that represent a security hole?

What about if with something like that you could have a massive block of fees destroyed and compensates the entire network evenly over time? Like if say if a bunch of coins are dumped into a tx fee (settxfee) that it adds into the block reward over a month or so, it would work like a share giveback so that when you build infrastructure and transactions increase, so does the rewards. The question would be how to do it properly, possibly fees could be destroyed and then the stake re targets to pay out over time like a floating point number?

Within a PoS network, Exchanges represent one of the largest challenges to overcome as well, the strength of a PoS network rests on reducing the barrier for people to stake their coins over a short period and guarding against exchanges Staking and selling coins and malicious behaviour

I can't say I have all the answers but I am confident that POW is NOT the answer.

^ wtf

i reported him and left him a negative trust rating.

i knew i should have self modded this.. no surprise people kids act like a baby around here  ::)
crypto needs age limits.. we shouldn't have 12 yr old's running financial markets in all aspects with no regulation.

Oooo, you reported me, how cute is that? :)))

GTFO poor ass, go get a real job

I reported him too, mods deleted some of my posts too cause I guess I made some unfunny jokes? Maybe you don't like me posting, I can live with that but this is my favorite thread right now and I'm actually trying to contribute to it unlike most of the rest here. If you self moderated the thread then the same kids are going to go around saying you deleted all their posts and FUD about it.

Edit: Maybe you could have a moderated thread as well?

Have you ever checked out some of the stuff I've been working on? I've got mod powers and stuff on the Col forums and I've got something like double the posts there than I do here about lots of various stuff. It is really nice having your own forums cause if people annoy you, you can just delete or ban them, maybe you should set up your own forums or even ask Sudo23 or Heat007 on the Col forums if they would be willing to help build you some forums if you paid them. I don't know how to get in contact with them otherwise, they are pretty identity conscious but good honest people.

You wanna team up in some way? Maybe take over Colossuscoin? I dunno, the code is pretty bad but the forums are big and spacious and has a public section, members section, consul section, shoutbox, newsletter function for global mods and is laid out quite well not to mention it has been run for a full year with no issues or drama's. I'm not sure if something like that is too restrictive but in general Sudo has full control and can limit my powers on the forums but I have more power there than I really want or need but only Sudo can add people to the Development Team section or change peoples user group. Would be great to get the coin back up and running, good name, good rep but lots of struggles with development. Also have about 8-9 promo videos and a few hundred pictures and images, marketing strategies etc.

What do you think about something like that? You did say that in a proper scenario that you should only be working in testnet and projects with your friends and not shoving coins out to market as an experiment.

I'm open to suggestions.

Crypti is working on Custom BlockChains that will allow you to add your own coin and use the XCR network to forge the transactions. 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654463.new#new

ALso coming out with a hardare cubie to run the nodes. 

BCT ... that's can be Spoetnik's coin ... built, launched, market listed ... all you have to do is show ... up
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=569997.0

Better not to start with it at all (as your poll is saying).

Thanks for putting it on hold at least :-)

Edit Oh, and there is not a blocknet scandal. You created a "blocknet scandal". That is a subtile difference ;)

Strong interests for your coin, man.
You should give it some thought while you're away.

http://school.discoveryeducation.com/clipart/images/sputnik.gif

call it sputnik and make it properly and i'd vote "yes" with my decentralized consensus vote.

you may see that it becomes a meaningful thing.

: D

It might be better for you to have a coin.. did you see the obsessed guy mentioning you on previous pages ?
wow what a lunatic fan you got, i hope he don't boil your bunnies :(

waaaaiiiiit just a minute... wut is this? could it be? maybe just maybe?   :o  ;D  :-*

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=856352.0

yeah we think what has happened is when they were handing out the bread in Moldavia, that the NGO just said well , "we'll give this guy a months worth right up front."

and he got so excited that he kind of "spun out of control" that's our best guess.  : D

- yeah no I'm not interested in having a crypto in my name i feel like all the quality ones are associated to me in some way anyhow ha ha.

put this monkey into orbit
launch the Spud-Nik!

Looks quite similar to some ideas I sent Spoetnik, that coin is genius whether he made it or not.

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

on a serious note:
-POW
-neoscrypt(or what ever the new hip asicless algo is)
-1.5-2yrs halving
-3-5min block time
-first xxx blocks with much smaller reward
-no POS ever ever ever ever ever

can't get much fairer than that I think

Sure if you want the price to dive to 0.

Don't do Pow,

It's TIME !

Stat tuned for a special announcement people ;)

Will it be a Monero clone?

I'd love it!

There is a possibility Shelby & I are working on new super-currency.

Some planning would have to be done before we'd get coding..
So don't expect anything too fast guys.

White paper ? ..i think not !
Try BLACK PAPER  8)

I do admit i enjoy bumping topics i made before mouthy ICO noobs were even in crypto  :D

I'll join the ICO. Any sig bounties?

Make the coin sir. I would love to watch it grow.

Yes I do agree with the greece killer joe here.  A Spoetnik coin would definitely be a nice thing to mine, watch and trade.

I support it.

~CfA~

Please make the ICO run for 6 months so that I can buy more from my salary and don't forget the signature bounties. Pretty please. :-*

Shelby needs to orchestrate a plan of fairness..technically.
I would have no coins from any potential project.
I would receive 0 myself.
I would mine no coins.
I would have no financial incentive & payment for my efforts.

I would support a currency simply because i think it deserves to be supported.

Currencies of course go hand in hand with trading in the markets.
So i am not adverse to the potential of profit for you all.
It's just a game i can't be bothered playing anymore.

By all means, make money..
But i just want to kindly request you all choose carefully what projects truly deserve YOUR support.

Thanks people i appreciate your support on my topic.
That gives me hope for all of you around here.
I want to see supporters benefit from their early support in sincere projects.
A combo of support + profit (not one or the other)

True.. see I'm here and you all on this topic are GONE.

And guy earlier about BlockNET ?
Told ya so ;)

And just a reminder.. i posted the ANN for Bunny Coin first.
So that other coin stole my idea and hijacked my coin !
I even had a congratulations from Comkort that they added my coin on my BunnyCoin topic.

I am the laster and my coin will rule all !

Yup you heard it first.. we're gettin' the band back together again !

Stay tuned for a special annoucment about Spoetnik Coin soon ;)

Lol Dogecoindark/Verge actually stole this retardedness and tried to use it seriously :D 
https://github.com/vergecurrency/Verge-Blackpaper

I have always hated the policy here about not being allowed to bump old topics.
That is core and crucial history here that should be reviewed.. for good or bad.

I never had any intention of ever launching a coin.
I am not qualified or interested but that never stopped the random 14 yr old kid here from doing it.
See BlockNET children for example.

I was trying to get us here to have a discussion on WHOM is appropriate to launch a currency.
People don't seem to ask or care.

For example i am far more qualified than 90% of these idiots and even i am not suitable.
Take the guy who was in charge of security at the now defunct exchange Cryptsy..
It always bugged me a little that it was handled by a 19 yr old kid who was not born when i was doing the computer thing / programming etc.
What happened ?
Well Vern claims the exchange got hacked LOL
Same story plays out again and again.. see the point ?
Coins fail.. pools fails.. exchanges fail etc etc.. rampant incompetence !
And THAT is a risk when you think you are "investors".

THAT is what i was alluding to here on this topic all along.
Would people support me making a coin ?
You probably shouldn't.. i never posted a good technical reason for you to do so. LOL