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Hello all,

Selling some units. Pictures of the units can be found in their respective setup threads from my signature. Shipping is from the UK and the total price is base price + shipping + tax (if applicable). See below.

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XBTech Pacific 1250 - 1.25 to 1.3TH
Including PSU and internal RaspPi controller.

Base Price: BTC 1.50

UK                       : = 0.30 tax, free shipping = 1.80
EU non business     : = 0.38 tax, 0.40 shipping = 2.28
EU VAT business     : = 0.00 tax  0.40 shipping = 1.90
US                       : = 0.00 tax, 0.60 shipping = 2.10

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BitCrane T-110 - 0.9 to 1TH [ambient sensitive]
Including PSU and internal Cubie controller.

Base Price: BTC 1.20

UK                       : = 0.24 tax, free shipping = 1.44
EU non business     : = 0.29 tax, 0.25 shipping = 1.74
EU VAT business     : = 0.00 tax  0.25 shipping = 1.45
US                       : = 0.00 tax, 0.40 shipping = 1.60

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AMT 1.2 - ~1.05TH
Inc controller, inc PSU. Will include 3x Corsair high performance fans for 0.2btc.

Base Price: BTC 1.15

UK                       : = 0.23 tax, free shipping = 1.38
EU non business     : = 0.29 tax, 0.30 shipping = 1.74
EU VAT business     : = 0.00 tax  0.30 shipping = 1.45
US                       : = 0.00 tax, 0.50 shipping = 1.65

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Bitmine Desk - 1TH
Including internal Pi controller, no PSU, no LCD.

Base Price: BTC 0.95

UK                       : = 0.19 tax, free shipping = 1.14
EU non business     : = 0.25 tax, 0.30 shipping = 1.50
EU VAT business     : = 0.00 tax  0.30 shipping = 1.25
US                       : = 0.00 tax, 0.50 shipping = 1.45

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2x ASICMiner Tube - ~830GH x2
Inc controller, no PSU, no controller PSU.

Base Price: BTC 0.65 each

UK                       : = 0.14 tax, 0.05 shipping = 0.84
EU non business     : = 0.17 tax, 0.20 shipping = 1.02
EU VAT business     : = 0.00 tax  0.20 shipping = 0.85
US                       : = 0.00 tax, 0.35 shipping = 1.00

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2x Avalon3 - ~290GH x2
Inc controller (when purchased in pair), no PSU.

Base Price: BTC 0.30 each

UK                       : = 0.08 tax, 0.05 shipping = 0.43
EU non business     : = 0.10 tax, 0.20 shipping = 0.60
EU VAT business     : = 0.00 tax  0.20 shipping = 0.55
US                       : = 0.00 tax, 0.35 shipping = 0.65

TAX?! On stuff you got for free.......... :D :D :D :D :D

Since when has BTC been tax deductible anyway?....... ::)

Dogie- go back to your kennel.

UK  non business    : = 0.30 tax
EU non business     : = 0.38 tax

It depends on what country you're in, but generally, it isn't:

http://www.thedomains.com/2014/08/10/eu-court-to-decide-if-bitcoin-transactions-are-subject-to-value-added-tax/

"Jane Genova wrote an article on PaymentWeek.com about the EU deciding on whether or not to tax Bitcoin transactions. Earlier in the year Sweden asked for the EU to rule on whether or not Bitcoin should be taxed. The UK has ruled no valued added tax on Bitcoin."

This guy is in the UK. He's also the only one on the entire forum trying to pull this off. Don't fall for it.

Queue dogies "my accountant says...." & "I'm legally required to....." nonsense quotes  :D

If the asic tube was 0.75 - 0.8 i would buy now not the 0.96...

On the flip side I purchased the rockminer t1 from dogie. He shipped very fast and secure. I used no escrow either.

HMRC have said there is no VAT applicible to mining REVENUE. There is nothing about miners, which are sold like any other good at a rate of 20%. Don't post in my thread again.

VAT is also applicable on the shipping?

Use to shipping Royal Mail services   http://www.royalmail.com/

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vat-notice-70024-postage-and-delivery-charges/vat-notice-70024-postage-and-delivery-charges
1.4 Aren’t postal charges exempt from VAT?

Postal services provided by the Post Office are exempt from VAT,...

Yes they are, but there are two sides to VAT. On one side you collect 20% of all sales revenue in the region for the government, and on the other side you can reclaim VAT paid on some expenses. Royal Mail's services not including VAT makes them more expensive.

Say I collect £12 for a customer for postage, and Royal Mail costs £12. I have to pay £2 to the government, and can reclaim £0.

But anyway, I don't use Royal Mail due to cost / VAT / speed for the UK stuff, and they don't do larger shipments to the EU. I also don't charge postage for people in the UK, except on the cheaper stuff.

You.re so full of cr*p dogie.
Do you think everyone is stupid?
Do you think that everyone is a law breaking tax evader apart from you?
You are the only person here doing this, and you're doing it with stuff that was given to you for free! You're taking the p*ss mate, seriously.
Are you paying tax on what Bitmain are paying you for your biased reviews?

Stop thinking that you're superior to everyone & that the rules don't apply to you - they do. Most importantly - STOP TRYING TO RIP OFF THE AVERAGE MINER WITH TAX BULLSH*T!!!

https://www.gov.uk/vat-businesses/how-vat-works

https://www.gov.uk/report-vat-fraud    ;)

Come on give the guy a break you're taking things a bit far now. If he's VAT registered then he has to charge VAT its the law here in the UK.

If you don't like it then move on. He's not forcing anyone to buy his stuff.

Can we "print" our own label and send it to you.  I really would not want to spend BTC on shipping.  Just name your carrier and give package details.

For me, this would make your equipment much more attractive pricewise.

Yeah I guess so, then I just call them to book a collection? I'm not sure how its going to work out any different in cost though.

XBTec is sold.

Bitcrane is sold.

Updated prices

Thanks for this link - just what I was looking for!  :)

Let the fun begin.......

1x Tube sold

while i dont agree with him charging VAT his prices are pretty fair and no matter how you get the miners the odds are your going to have to pay VAT just to get them into the country (unless its from the EU) and neither the UK or EU have a very good mining market mainly because both of them are so expensive for electric... its these western wolds with all there government stupidity thats the problem not dogie.

sorry for going a bit off topic but its only fair to explain his dilemma (personal i use bitcoin to stop money grabbing bastards taking VAT off me :D ) screw you Cameron and screw the government my money is mine (when they fix the pot hole at the end of my road then ill consider contributing to the economy)

reported. Thank you.

Ignore them, its just a few troll accounts.

Hi Dogie,
Let me know if u still have them, I will buy them all from u.

AMT is sold.