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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: Watoshi-Dimobuto on October 26, 2014, 01:14:01 PM



Title: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: Watoshi-Dimobuto on October 26, 2014, 01:14:01 PM
FIRE    VS    WATER
Choose your side wisely.
http://hd.wallpaperswide.com/thumbs/fire_fist_vs_water_fist-t2.jpg

Round #1

Common address: 13cb4Kr96TXiw59FNAN8vvkK63R38KVGCi
And PM monbux the side you choose.
Direct PM link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=133846


Min bet : 0.001BTC

The side with LOWEST bitcoins win


ROUND ENDS: 10:00 am,  Tuesday, 28 October 2014  Greenwich Mean Time (GMT)

Fee: 8% for me(to cover the initial 0.01 BTC contribution) of losing side, 2% for escrow.

Don't reveal your side.



Congrats to unamis76 for winning over 0.01BTC with just 0.002BTC


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER [Escrow accepted] Smaller side wins!
Post by: Watoshi-Dimobuto on October 26, 2014, 01:23:26 PM
Also, I will initially add 0.01BTC to one of the sides to heat up the game.
You could send 0.001BTC to both sides and get a profit(over investment) of 0.01BTC after the round.

My side will be PM'd to the escrow.

PM'd to monbux.
0.01BTC is in one of the sides.


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER [Escrow accepted] Smaller side wins!
Post by: caga on October 26, 2014, 01:51:41 PM
Does the losing side get double the amount they put in? or do they get the amount divided equally of the side with more coins?


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER [Escrow accepted] Smaller side wins!
Post by: Watoshi-Dimobuto on October 26, 2014, 01:53:05 PM
Does the losing side get double the amount they put in? or do they get the amount divided equally of the side with more coins?

The losing side gets nothing.


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER [Escrow accepted] Smaller side wins!
Post by: caga on October 26, 2014, 01:55:18 PM
Does the losing side get double the amount they put in? or do they get the amount divided equally of the side with more coins?

The losing side gets nothing.
How much does the side sending with the lower amount get? Say I send 0.001 to fire, and at the end 0.002 is at water and 0.001 is at fire. How much will I get?


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER [Escrow accepted] Smaller side wins!
Post by: Watoshi-Dimobuto on October 26, 2014, 01:56:57 PM
Does the losing side get double the amount they put in? or do they get the amount divided equally of the side with more coins?

The losing side gets nothing.
How much does the side sending with the lower amount get? Say I send 0.001 to fire, and at the end 0.002 is at water and 0.001 is at fire. How much will I get?

0.001 + 0.012 (if my side is water) - fee = 0.0118BTC


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER [Escrow accepted] With a TWIST!
Post by: Watoshi-Dimobuto on October 27, 2014, 03:33:30 AM
Escrow is monbux.

Send to the address and PM monbux your side.

THE GAME IS ON!

0.012BTC in bets! You could win all that for 0.001BTC, depending on the side.

22 hours to go


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: unamis76 on October 27, 2014, 12:07:13 PM
Bet and PM sent :)


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: unamis76 on October 28, 2014, 07:31:34 PM
So, any winners announced?


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: arvindr on October 28, 2014, 07:37:00 PM
So, any winners announced?
It says 22 hours to go in 3 posts above this one, so probably another 6-7 hours.


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: unamis76 on October 28, 2014, 08:24:04 PM
So, any winners announced?
It says 22 hours to go in 3 posts above this one, so probably another 6-7 hours.

in the OP it says "ROUND ENDS: 10:00 am,  Tuesday, 28 October 2014  Greenwich Mean Time (GMT)"

it's 8pm GMT now... :)


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: arvindr on October 28, 2014, 08:32:36 PM
So, any winners announced?
It says 22 hours to go in 3 posts above this one, so probably another 6-7 hours.

in the OP it says "ROUND ENDS: 10:00 am,  Tuesday, 28 October 2014  Greenwich Mean Time (GMT)"

it's 8pm GMT now... :)

Maybe, 2 hours then. I was just quoting the op.


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: unamis76 on October 30, 2014, 06:28:53 PM
so basically everyone lost the money they bet? lol


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: caga on October 30, 2014, 06:38:20 PM
so basically everyone lost the money they bet? lol

it seems only 1 guy had placed a bet, and would be entitled to get 0.01


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: FanEagle on October 30, 2014, 06:53:42 PM
Who won?


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: sickhouse on October 30, 2014, 09:55:02 PM
Cool idea, but I wouldn't play here, I mean if I place an investment I make the other side more likely to win.


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: Watoshi-Dimobuto on October 31, 2014, 01:54:00 AM
Almost forgot about this.

Awaiting monbux's response. I am pretty sure he betted on both sides. (amt is 2 mBTC). Just waiting for him to confirm. :)


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: monbux on October 31, 2014, 02:01:24 AM
user "unamis76" was the only one that placed the bet, here was his PM:

PM'ing you about this game: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=835367.0

I've sent 0.002 (https://blockchain.info/pt/tx/4f4bd2ab0f668f24a4c35fd13e7fb363b09011ba968afa5d7a981c74611cf54e), and I want half to go to fire, and half for water.

Thanks.

Cheers!


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: PrimedicePlayersUnion on October 31, 2014, 02:04:42 AM
if i and 10 of my friends get together, we can use our numbers to win
do the math and see if this is possible


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: Watoshi-Dimobuto on October 31, 2014, 02:19:30 AM
if i and 10 of my friends get together, we can use our numbers to win
do the math and see if this is possible


Still, you won't know which side i placed my bet, right? You can lose too.

unamis76 is declared the winner.
Please post your address to receive your winnings. :)


My side was Fire. (was PM'd to monbux at start of game.)

0.002BTC

Total winnings = 0.012BTC - 0.0012(fee) = 0.0108BTC

monbux = 0.0012 BTC escrow fee. :)


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: finnile on October 31, 2014, 11:21:50 AM
if i and 10 of my friends get together, we can use our numbers to win
do the math and see if this is possible


Still, you won't know which side i placed my bet, right? You can lose too.

unamis76 is declared the winner.
Please post your address to receive your winnings. :)


My side was Fire. (was PM'd to monbux at start of game.)

0.002BTC

Total winnings = 0.012BTC - 0.0012(fee) = 0.0118BTC

monbux = 0.0012 BTC escrow fee. :)

Math error right there, that is equal to 0.0108.


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: Watoshi-Dimobuto on October 31, 2014, 11:34:26 AM
if i and 10 of my friends get together, we can use our numbers to win
do the math and see if this is possible


Still, you won't know which side i placed my bet, right? You can lose too.

unamis76 is declared the winner.
Please post your address to receive your winnings. :)


My side was Fire. (was PM'd to monbux at start of game.)

0.002BTC

Total winnings = 0.012BTC - 0.0012(fee) = 0.0118BTC

monbux = 0.0012 BTC escrow fee. :)

Math error right there, that is equal to 0.0108.

Yeah. sorry. i will edit that. :)


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: Dabs on October 31, 2014, 12:29:09 PM
Try to make this provably fair. To do this, when you pick a side, add a random bunch of characters, then hash it. Or use HMAC-SHA512(random bunch, side) or some variation of those. Publish the result.

Reveal the original side and secrets and random bunch after the game.

Well you get the idea.


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: Watoshi-Dimobuto on October 31, 2014, 12:52:05 PM
Try to make this provably fair. To do this, when you pick a side, add a random bunch of characters, then hash it. Or use HMAC-SHA512(random bunch, side) or some variation of those. Publish the result.

Reveal the original side and secrets and random bunch after the game.

Well you get the idea.

Easier is just to PM monbux. I did that.


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: Babba D on October 31, 2014, 12:52:43 PM
oh i missed this game , any more rounds and can you bring some more players ?


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: LiQuidx on October 31, 2014, 01:33:56 PM
What is the payout of it?


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: unamis76 on October 31, 2014, 04:32:44 PM

unamis76 is declared the winner.
Please post your address to receive your winnings. :)

Thanks :)

1Kg5gzzEzaTwpjXvu6vdJoHbxA4BcMi7kN


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: jeremypwr on October 31, 2014, 05:30:25 PM
Interseting..


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: Dabs on November 01, 2014, 12:56:48 AM
Easier is just to PM monbux. I did that.
Yes, but that's not provably fair.


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: Watoshi-Dimobuto on November 01, 2014, 02:34:39 AM
Easier is just to PM monbux. I did that.
Yes, but that's not provably fair.

it is. Why not? You can prove it. Just ask him. I asked him to confirm my side here. Maybe he skipped that. But it has no effect, since he bet on both sides with same amount.


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: Watoshi-Dimobuto on November 01, 2014, 02:36:01 AM

unamis76 is declared the winner.
Please post your address to receive your winnings. :)

Thanks :)

1Kg5gzzEzaTwpjXvu6vdJoHbxA4BcMi7kN

yrw.

https://blockchain.info/tx/c02cde5edc04c947827d1c2c0e7571b451fa15563ac2c0ea0ae718bb7ec444dc :)


Paid full 10% fee to monbux : https://blockchain.info/tx/632c5da28c38414a5c0f2026947e4208bd01cca8556b9c4131670a39fa96cea8


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: Dabs on November 01, 2014, 11:52:26 AM
Easier is just to PM monbux. I did that.
Yes, but that's not provably fair.

it is. Why not? You can prove it. Just ask him. I asked him to confirm my side here. Maybe he skipped that. But it has no effect, since he bet on both sides with same amount.

It is not provably fair the way most people understand it on this forum. What is the SHA256 (or HMAC-SHA512) hash of the committed bet?


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: Babba D on November 01, 2014, 12:34:53 PM
nice game but i dont think much players there to play :(


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: unamis76 on November 01, 2014, 12:39:55 PM

unamis76 is declared the winner.
Please post your address to receive your winnings. :)

Thanks :)

1Kg5gzzEzaTwpjXvu6vdJoHbxA4BcMi7kN

yrw.

https://blockchain.info/tx/c02cde5edc04c947827d1c2c0e7571b451fa15563ac2c0ea0ae718bb7ec444dc :)


Paid full 10% fee to monbux : https://blockchain.info/tx/632c5da28c38414a5c0f2026947e4208bd01cca8556b9c4131670a39fa96cea8

Thank you :)


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: duckydonald on November 01, 2014, 01:21:31 PM
where is earth and wind bending?


Title: Re: FIRE vs WATER -- With a TWIST!
Post by: Babba D on November 01, 2014, 01:53:34 PM

unamis76 is declared the winner.
Please post your address to receive your winnings. :)

Thanks :)

1Kg5gzzEzaTwpjXvu6vdJoHbxA4BcMi7kN

yrw.

https://blockchain.info/tx/c02cde5edc04c947827d1c2c0e7571b451fa15563ac2c0ea0ae718bb7ec444dc :)


Paid full 10% fee to monbux : https://blockchain.info/tx/632c5da28c38414a5c0f2026947e4208bd01cca8556b9c4131670a39fa96cea8

Thank you :)

congratzz winner !!  ;D ;D

yolo the money :D