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Title: Start-Up Capital Needed for First Bitcoin ATM in Indianapolis
Post by: Kieronbm on October 27, 2014, 04:49:45 AM
tl;dr version:

This isn't a loan exactly, so if this should go on a different board, please let me know. I need about $6,500 to buy and run this ATM, and the payback will be from the profits.

If you have any questions, please post here, PM me, or e-mail me at: kmitchell at cics.us

Thanks!

Kieron

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Indianapolis Bitcoin ATM Project (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mNG_aSDdTsIFaHqZJRkGmUnwrQzPJrmQQKbgP0wsklw/edit?usp=sharing)

Project Goal and Summary: The goal of this project is to install and operate the first Bitcoin ATM in Indianapolis (http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-atm-map/).  To that end, up to $6,500 will be raised.

Funding Goal: $6,500 to pay for first year start-up and operation costs (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18RnFlePYdvFTOvh5eysn-QFPRCoo8P8Jhtnkq5Xs6Xw/edit?usp=sharing).  At least $2,000 of this will be contributed by management.

Funding Period End: 12/17/14

Anticipated Revenue: Gross volume data (http://www.geekwire.com/2013/worlds-bitcoin-atm-exceeds-1m-transaction-volume-month/) ranges from (http://coinatmradar.com/blog/bitcoin-atm-porfitability-part-2-real-examples/#more-24) $5 thousand to $100 thousand per month, with a 10% profit margin.

Benefits of funding this project (see bitcoinstarter.com (https://bitcoinstarter.com/projects/1083) for details):

Receive Regular Updates: 4-12 email updates a year.

Potential Ongoing Payout: A quarterly amount may be paid on a pro-rata basis.

Future Projects: "Right of first refusal" for any future projects. For example, if this location does well and it's decided to raise funds for a second location, you will be the first allowed to purchase any new coins.

Full and Complete Transparency: Quarterly income and expense reports, and full access to detailed transaction log(s) and all other data.

How to participate: The easiest option is to send me an e-mail (at kmitchell at cics.us) with how much you’d like pay (in increments of $20), and I’ll send you an invoice (which you can pay with a check, credit card, or bitcoin!).  For the more technically inclined, other options include direct purchase (https://counterwallet.io/) of the coin “INDYATM”, a bitcoin payment via bitcoinstarter.com (https://bitcoinstarter.com/projects/1083) or a direct bitcoin transaction sent to 1HtCkMCU5QqYyCtRf7aEWRdiNsHKE8bRcm (https://i.imgur.com/E2d2uAK.png)



=============   ATM Operations Details  ==================

Location: 5533 E Washington St, Indianapolis, IN 46219 (https://www.google.com/maps/place/World+Of+Vapor+Indy/@39.770363,-86.07256,2a,90y,90t/data=!3m5!1e2!3m3!1s-KVEOzc0Pqd8%2FUwTYoirN6eI%2FAAAAAAAAhU0%2Fi-ZiWb4jIzM!2e4!3e12!4m15!1m12!4m11!1m3!2m2!1d-86.0723888!2d39.7720072!1m6!1m2!1s0x886b4f9545203943:0xc45fc24e1ccb8a0e!2svapor+world+indianapolis!2m2!1d-86.07256!2d39.770363!3m1!1s0x886b4f9545203943:0xc45fc24e1ccb8a0e!6m1!1e1)

Hours of operation:

Monday   10:30 am – 6:00 pm
Tue - Sat 10:30 am – 8:00 pm
Sunday    12:00 – 5:00 pm

The Machine: http://projectskyhook.com/

Legal: From a legal standpoint, this ATM is a vending machine, selling Bitcoin in exchange for U.S. Dollars in a transaction between two people (without a third party involved).  The guidance available (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2-FtWzOhm_Hc0xvVkFiMkJlSnM/view?usp=sharing) is that this does not qualify as money transmission or service, and is thus not regulated as such.

Taxes: Sales tax in Indiana must only be paid on tangible goods sold.  Bitcoin is not tangible, so no sales tax will be collected or paid.

Marketing: All free or very low cost: Press releases, craigs list, localbitcoin.com, eBay, http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-atm-map/ , http://bitcoinatmmap.com/

Management: Kieron Mitchell (http://www.linkedin.com/in/kieronmitchell), kmitchell at cics.us

Banking: Chase Bank

Bitcoin Procurement: Coinbase, Circle, Private

============== The fine print and warnings ==============

If the demand to fund this project exceeds the goal, excess funds will be used for additional security, to fund future similar projects, or to reduce the amount of management funding.

Note that there is little historical data to go on, since there are fewer than fifty Bitcoin ATMs in North America, and the world’s first was installed last November.  Prudence would dictate assuming revenue so low as to preclude the recouping of initial funding (in other words, if you are thinking of being a part of this to make money, think again).

You will not have a legal ownership interest in any entity or company.  This is not an offer of securities.  Up to 325 units of a digital asset token (INDYATM) will be sold for $20 each.  Trading, sales and transfers of this asset will be managed by counterparty.co.  That protocol (alone) will determine ownership of the coins.  If you lose your password to the wallet therefor (or you are hacked, or you are forced at gunpoint to divulge your password, etc.) you could lose all of your coins.

I am making no promises of future cash flows to those funding this project.  The only benefits of owning the coins are as listed above.

Everything listed under the “ATM Operations Details” section is subject to change without notice.

Who you have to trust: Me (http://www.linkedin.com/in/kieronmitchell), counterwallet.io, and counterparty.co.  Do your own due diligence before you take part in funding this.


Title: Re: Start-Up Capital Needed for First Bitcoin ATM in Indianapolis
Post by: Kieronbm on October 28, 2014, 05:01:50 AM
Look like now it'll be the ONLY Bitcoin ATM in all of INDIANA!  The previously only one in Indiana has now apparently been moved to Ohio.

http://coinatmradar.com/bitcoin_atm/290/bitcoin-atm-bitaccess-columbus-backroom-barbershop-salon/ (http://coinatmradar.com/bitcoin_atm/290/bitcoin-atm-bitaccess-columbus-backroom-barbershop-salon/)


Title: Re: Start-Up Capital Needed for First Bitcoin ATM in Indianapolis
Post by: Kieronbm on November 06, 2014, 05:34:32 AM
I've just been told that a "check is in the mail" for $1,000 for this,  which was the minimum I wanted to raise before I'd go through with the project.

So...this WILL happen. 

There is still time for anyone else who still wants to help fund this project to jump in...

Let me know any thoughts as well...


Title: Re: Start-Up Capital Needed for First Bitcoin ATM in Indianapolis
Post by: Vod on November 06, 2014, 05:50:51 AM
I've just been told that a "check is in the mail" for $1,000 for this,  which was the minimum I wanted to raise before I'd go through with the project.

So...this WILL happen. 

There is still time for anyone else who still wants to help fund this project to jump in...

Let me know any thoughts as well...

What collateral are you offering for this loan?


Title: Re: Start-Up Capital Needed for First Bitcoin ATM in Indianapolis
Post by: Bitcoin-Police on November 07, 2014, 07:49:39 PM
I've just been told that a "check is in the mail" for $1,000 for this,  which was the minimum I wanted to raise before I'd go through with the project.

So...this WILL happen. 

There is still time for anyone else who still wants to help fund this project to jump in...

Let me know any thoughts as well...

What collateral are you offering for this loan?

He isn't offering any collateral, hence

SCAM-POTENTIAL = 100%


Title: Re: Start-Up Capital Needed for First Bitcoin ATM in Indianapolis
Post by: Kieronbm on November 17, 2014, 02:24:36 AM
This is more of an opportunity to fund a project to help make it happen, rather than a loan.  Perhaps I have the wrong forum.

Signature loans have no collateral, but that doesn't make them scams.  As a matter of fact, I would think that if it's clear that this is an uncollateralized loan up front, the chance of it being a scam (ie, a misrepresentation of what it is) would be LESS.


Title: Re: Start-Up Capital Needed for First Bitcoin ATM in Indianapolis
Post by: bigtimespaghetti on February 02, 2015, 08:41:36 AM
This is more of an opportunity to fund a project to help make it happen, rather than a loan.  Perhaps I have the wrong forum.

Signature loans have no collateral, but that doesn't make them scams.  As a matter of fact, I would think that if it's clear that this is an uncollateralized loan up front, the chance of it being a scam (ie, a misrepresentation of what it is) would be LESS.

You might have more luck on btcjam for this. You will have to verify information to be in with a chance of funding the loan.


Title: Re: Start-Up Capital Needed for First Bitcoin ATM in Indianapolis
Post by: Kieronbm on February 02, 2015, 11:31:15 PM
Thanks!

I'm all set now, it's up and running....