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Title: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: microchoveur on November 07, 2014, 03:34:06 AM
I decided to update the tittle of this thread. Why, every time I go on the Altcoin Discussion section on this forum, am I forced to see his shitscam thread ?
Everyone here knows it is a scam, so why is he not banned ?

I'd like this thread to be removed for the sake of the official bitcoin forum, my god guys wtf

Don't get fooled by his amazing explanations and stuff… Half on his screenshots are faked if you check well. He owns every account posting great reviews on his topic. He will make you pay the fee and then ask you to follow him so he can dump his coins on ur face :D

You're warned.


Let's start by pointing out, what Ryan says in his advert:

https://i.imgur.com/7Pc5Lai.png (https://i.imgur.com/7Pc5Lai.png)

Especially pay attention to the highlighted areas, stating what membership of Ryan's group includes. I liked what Ryan promised, not only that I would be advised what to do, but that I would be active participant, which would also allow me to learn how successful traders operate. Maybe naive of me, but true. I specifically asked about this in my first PM to Ryan:

https://i.imgur.com/Dbd9BSZ.png (https://i.imgur.com/Dbd9BSZ.png)

Here is what Ryan replied to me:

https://i.imgur.com/Uoj9GAZ.png (https://i.imgur.com/Uoj9GAZ.png)

Exactly what I wanted to hear. Daily tips on coins, group meets on IRC to discuss "moves", everything is explained and I will learn something new (educational element). Sounds nice? Well the truth is that the IRC channel doesn't exist and I never spoke to any other member. As soon as I paid the membership fee, Ryan sent me a message, that the IRC channel is down and that he's working on setting up a new one. As you can see from the PM history posted down below, at first it was supposed to be up the same day, then at the end of the week/weekend. It would probably be pushed again onto the next week which I haven't paid for so I wouldn't see it's all part of the play. I even suggested other form of real-time communication, but without response.

Absence of an IRC channel was a big bummer for me, but at least first pick arrived:

https://i.imgur.com/CKsJslo.png (https://i.imgur.com/CKsJslo.png)

Seems like Ryan was artificially controlling the market with a couple of other traders and his bots. So that's how it's done? Quite a disappointment. Nevertheless I stuck with the plan and followed Ryan's directions. There were further PM's exchanged about LTCD (check PM history), but the essence was this: Accumulate above 2k, up to 2.5k and be ready for a lift-off. This was the last PM:

https://i.imgur.com/35fG3eg.png (https://i.imgur.com/35fG3eg.png)

As you may know, several hours after this message, the price of LTCD plummeted. From 2.2k to 0.8k. By complete luck, I was up early to check my trading position and managed to sell in time, rebuy under 1k and profit from this situation. But had I been following Ryan's advice, I would have been in a great loss. Strangely enough, Ryan posted in this thread about how flawlessly he played this whole event (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=765426.msg8882241#msg8882241 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=765426.msg8882241#msg8882241)), yet I received none of that information from him. And he had the courage to tell me later in our conversation, that I profited from LTCD sell-off because of his advice.

As a coincidence, the night before, I read this nice thread from louie6925 about trading altcoins (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=785977.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=785977.0)). Later after that LTCD disaster, the second point from louie's post lead me to an idea, that this could all be orchestrated. What if Ryan told members of his group to buy at certain price range, filled his sell orders that way and then caused a dump to rebuy lower? Seemed only slightly probable at the time, but very probable after I realized what's this all about.

Somewhere during our conversation about LTCD, Ryan sent me this message:

https://i.imgur.com/OSLirgu.png (https://i.imgur.com/OSLirgu.png)

Great! That's why I signed up and what Ryan advertised in his other thread, I will receive detailed analysis of coins that are going to move. Something similar what Ryan does in this topic, but in advance. Well, sadly for me, I never received such information. All I got, was promises, that this day he will surely send the write-up about the coins.

https://i.imgur.com/oPWE9rR.png (https://i.imgur.com/oPWE9rR.png)

What shocked me though, was that, when I expressed my objections, he told me, how much I could have gained had I traded each coin on my own, completely disregarding what he wrote several times earlier and what he said in his advert -> every move explained / entry/exit points / members briefed exactly what to do and when / strategy for each coin etc.

That's when I had enough and wanted a refund. Sadly Ryan didn't want to return my coins.

To create a full picture of the whole conversation, here is a complete history of my PM's with Ryan, ordered chronologically and divided into two images due to size.

https://i.imgur.com/F6q8KHB.png (https://i.imgur.com/F6q8KHB.png)
https://i.imgur.com/EKcooGe.png (https://i.imgur.com/EKcooGe.png)

If necessary, I'm prepared to give access to my account to a reputable Sr.+ member to confirm that indeed all these messages are authentic and I didn't omit any.

I'm not a native English speaker, so I can't explain everything as clearly as I would like to, but hopefully the main message is understandable.

This lesson cost me 0.5 BTC and the time to write down this post. I won't get them back, but the least I can do is to warn other people not to make the same mistake as I did.

Judge for yourself, but my advice is clear: Stay away from RyanPumper and others alike and certainly don't pay him/them anything.

John


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: ProfX on November 07, 2014, 03:43:37 AM
i thought there were real members in his group?


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: microchoveur on November 07, 2014, 03:47:10 AM
i thought there were real members in his group?

Nothing is real here


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 10, 2014, 12:48:59 AM
All these pump and dump groups are scammers.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: Come-In-Behind on November 10, 2014, 01:03:31 AM
i thought there were real members in his group?

Nothing is real here

Real, serious P&D groups dont advertise on threads in the altcoin section.....and don't have accept a measly .5 btc as payment to join.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: microchoveur on December 02, 2014, 04:26:04 PM
i thought there were real members in his group?

Nothing is real here

Real, serious P&D groups dont advertise on threads in the altcoin section.....and don't have accept a measly .5 btc as payment to join.

True !


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: paycum on December 02, 2014, 05:18:25 PM
Well to call it a scam goes a bit to far for me but if you look at it your way indeed it is.

But basically its just a smart guy who acts like any winner would do except the fake members stuff offcourse. Every pump is done with a reason and everybody knows that!

People trade to win money so in case of a pump they accumulate first and then try to convince others that its a good buy moment so they buy up his coins.

But basically everybody is doing that only this guy does it on a big scale.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: JackRipper on December 02, 2014, 06:31:36 PM
Of course it's a scam. Nobody should be surprised about that.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: pikuchato on December 02, 2014, 07:22:53 PM
:P

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/562/544/0b4.jpg


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: dragnar on December 02, 2014, 07:26:03 PM
ofcours its a scam jesus ...


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: bitkate on December 02, 2014, 11:29:43 PM
yes i know it, dont trust all groups pump. they are scamers


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: microchoveur on December 02, 2014, 11:32:09 PM
It's a shame that he is a scammer because he is giving really good advices shah


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: HCLivess on December 03, 2014, 08:22:17 AM
think first. every pump needs buyers. pumping all in all is about making the last holder lose everything. do not participate if you dont like risk.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: Este Nuno on December 03, 2014, 08:31:16 AM
Wow, what a surprise. "Ryan Pumper" is a scammer. Shocking...


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: bitboy11 on December 03, 2014, 09:14:30 AM
Shame on RyanPumper...such a disgrace.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: rocoro on December 03, 2014, 01:44:40 PM
This is where I wish moderators would step in and ban people like RyanPUMPER.

We don't need all this pump and dump scam shit on these forums.



Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: djm34 on December 03, 2014, 01:57:43 PM
I am amazed that people went to that conclusion so fast  ;D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pump_and_dump


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: microchoveur on December 03, 2014, 05:22:50 PM
This is where I wish moderators would step in and ban people like RyanPUMPER.

We don't need all this pump and dump scam shit on these forums.



Why aren't they banned btw ?
I don't get it !


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: xxxgoodgirls on December 03, 2014, 05:37:34 PM
1)Put 5$ on an exchange.
2)Buy 50different alts for an amount of 0.1$ each.
3)2 or 3 of them will eventually pump.
4)Take screenshots (do not forget to hide the amount you bought)
5)Create fake btctalk accoutns to make them post nice words about your group.
6)Post some tip taken from investopedia.
7)Make people pay you the fee.
8)Enjoy the profit


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: Cryptofi$h on December 04, 2014, 04:40:11 AM
Don't get fooled by his amazing explanations and stuff… Half on his screenshots are faked if you check well. He owns every account posting great reviews on his topic. He will make you pay the fee and then ask you to follow him so he can dump his coins on ur face :D

You're warned.



Let's start by pointing out, what Ryan says in his advert:

https://i.imgur.com/7Pc5Lai.png (https://i.imgur.com/7Pc5Lai.png)

Especially pay attention to the highlighted areas, stating what membership of Ryan's group includes. I liked what Ryan promised, not only that I would be advised what to do, but that I would be active participant, which would also allow me to learn how successful traders operate. Maybe naive of me, but true. I specifically asked about this in my first PM to Ryan:

https://i.imgur.com/Dbd9BSZ.png (https://i.imgur.com/Dbd9BSZ.png)

Here is what Ryan replied to me:

https://i.imgur.com/Uoj9GAZ.png (https://i.imgur.com/Uoj9GAZ.png)

Exactly what I wanted to hear. Daily tips on coins, group meets on IRC to discuss "moves", everything is explained and I will learn something new (educational element). Sounds nice? Well the truth is that the IRC channel doesn't exist and I never spoke to any other member. As soon as I paid the membership fee, Ryan sent me a message, that the IRC channel is down and that he's working on setting up a new one. As you can see from the PM history posted down below, at first it was supposed to be up the same day, then at the end of the week/weekend. It would probably be pushed again onto the next week which I haven't paid for so I wouldn't see it's all part of the play. I even suggested other form of real-time communication, but without response.

Absence of an IRC channel was a big bummer for me, but at least first pick arrived:

https://i.imgur.com/CKsJslo.png (https://i.imgur.com/CKsJslo.png)

Seems like Ryan was artificially controlling the market with a couple of other traders and his bots. So that's how it's done? Quite a disappointment. Nevertheless I stuck with the plan and followed Ryan's directions. There were further PM's exchanged about LTCD (check PM history), but the essence was this: Accumulate above 2k, up to 2.5k and be ready for a lift-off. This was the last PM:

https://i.imgur.com/35fG3eg.png (https://i.imgur.com/35fG3eg.png)

As you may know, several hours after this message, the price of LTCD plummeted. From 2.2k to 0.8k. By complete luck, I was up early to check my trading position and managed to sell in time, rebuy under 1k and profit from this situation. But had I been following Ryan's advice, I would have been in a great loss. Strangely enough, Ryan posted in this thread about how flawlessly he played this whole event (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=765426.msg8882241#msg8882241 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=765426.msg8882241#msg8882241)), yet I received none of that information from him. And he had the courage to tell me later in our conversation, that I profited from LTCD sell-off because of his advice.

As a coincidence, the night before, I read this nice thread from louie6925 about trading altcoins (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=785977.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=785977.0)). Later after that LTCD disaster, the second point from louie's post lead me to an idea, that this could all be orchestrated. What if Ryan told members of his group to buy at certain price range, filled his sell orders that way and then caused a dump to rebuy lower? Seemed only slightly probable at the time, but very probable after I realized what's this all about.

Somewhere during our conversation about LTCD, Ryan sent me this message:

https://i.imgur.com/OSLirgu.png (https://i.imgur.com/OSLirgu.png)

Great! That's why I signed up and what Ryan advertised in his other thread, I will receive detailed analysis of coins that are going to move. Something similar what Ryan does in this topic, but in advance. Well, sadly for me, I never received such information. All I got, was promises, that this day he will surely send the write-up about the coins.

https://i.imgur.com/oPWE9rR.png (https://i.imgur.com/oPWE9rR.png)

What shocked me though, was that, when I expressed my objections, he told me, how much I could have gained had I traded each coin on my own, completely disregarding what he wrote several times earlier and what he said in his advert -> every move explained / entry/exit points / members briefed exactly what to do and when / strategy for each coin etc.

That's when I had enough and wanted a refund. Sadly Ryan didn't want to return my coins.

To create a full picture of the whole conversation, here is a complete history of my PM's with Ryan, ordered chronologically and divided into two images due to size.

https://i.imgur.com/F6q8KHB.png (https://i.imgur.com/F6q8KHB.png)
https://i.imgur.com/EKcooGe.png (https://i.imgur.com/EKcooGe.png)

If necessary, I'm prepared to give access to my account to a reputable Sr.+ member to confirm that indeed all these messages are authentic and I didn't omit any.

I'm not a native English speaker, so I can't explain everything as clearly as I would like to, but hopefully the main message is understandable.

This lesson cost me 0.5 BTC and the time to write down this post. I won't get them back, but the least I can do is to warn other people not to make the same mistake as I did.

Judge for yourself, but my advice is clear: Stay away from RyanPumper and others alike and certainly don't pay him/them anything.

John

Sounds just like @Altcointips or Fortress Crypto.

Took me for .25 and three dumps.  Feel free to visit @Altscamtips to ease the pain... screw pump groups buy blue chip.  $PINK $SYNC


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: RJX on December 04, 2014, 12:00:42 PM
Thanks for this thread, I was kinda hypnotized to join.  It's nice someone takes the time to explain to wannabe traders like me.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: microchoveur on December 04, 2014, 12:02:44 PM
Thanks for this thread, I was kinda hypnotized to join.  It's nice someone takes the time to explain to wannabe traders like me.



Well there are hundreds of people like you. I was like you when I read the topic but I quickly realized it was a scam. Well it's pretty obvious, it's just that his good advices are really nice for novice traders and they tend to forget everything and trust it, like hypnotized as you said.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: Ense04 on December 04, 2014, 02:05:12 PM
Thanks for this thread, I was kinda hypnotized to join.  It's nice someone takes the time to explain to wannabe traders like me.


I too was heading toward the light. Glad I read this post.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: microchoveur on December 05, 2014, 12:11:39 AM
Make this topic stay in the top for a while !


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: xxxgoodgirls on December 05, 2014, 03:25:43 PM
Just keep linking to this thread in the official Ryan Pumper's thread to avoid people getting scammed.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: louie6925 on December 05, 2014, 09:06:25 PM
I've been saying it for ages on this forum, please please any noobs reading this please take note!

If anyone asks for money for tips! It's a scam! Full stop! No ifs, no buts, it's a scam!

There is no pump group in the world that will make you rich! Only the people at the top make money! And to all Tue idiots reading this thinking ' well I've made money in a pump group' then we'll done you but you will get dumped on sooner or later! They lull you into a false sence of security and then tear you apart! It is mathematics that a group all can't profit, it's not theory it's mathematical fact!

If anyone asks you for payment to join their group! Kindly say thanks for the offer but now please fuck off you scamming little pikey prick!


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: speedy1987 on December 06, 2014, 03:17:00 AM
Thanks for this thread, I was kinda hypnotized to join.  It's nice someone takes the time to explain to wannabe traders like me.



Well there are hundreds of people like you. I was like you when I read the topic but I quickly realized it was a scam. Well it's pretty obvious, it's just that his good advices are really nice for novice traders and they tend to forget everything and trust it, like hypnotized as you said.

You´re right.

Mrs Pumper is scammy. That is for sure.
We are here, becouse we are traders.

So lets make agreement on some coin. Without losing  0.25 BTC.

My tip is
 
Next train is Gaiacoin (24M)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=807698.920

Great dev. Already delivered good stuff. (app store.... few days ago)
Price is around 500 sat. There is a quiet good buy support at bittrex.
This coin is still under radar.
So it is not big risk.

Just a tip.  ::) ;D 

 


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: mikeymillie on December 07, 2014, 12:49:10 AM
1)Put 5$ on an exchange.
2)Buy 50different alts for an amount of 0.1$ each.
3)2 or 3 of them will eventually pump.
4)Take screenshots (do not forget to hide the amount you bought)
5)Create fake btctalk accoutns to make them post nice words about your group.
6)Post some tip taken from investopedia.
7)Make people pay you the fee.
8)Enjoy the profit

You missed step 0:  recognize the kind of in-the-dark, information-starved, gambling addicted audience you are dealing with


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: rocoro on December 07, 2014, 01:45:16 AM
Here I fixed it:

1)Give recognition to the kind of in-the-dark, information-starved, gambling addicted audience you are dealing with.
2)Put 5$ on an exchange.
3)Buy 50different alts for an amount of 0.1$ each.
4)2 or 3 of them will eventually pump.
5)Take screenshots (do not forget to hide the amount you bought)
6)Create fake btctalk accoutns to make them post nice words about your group.
7)Post some tip taken from investopedia.
8)Make people pay you the fee.
9)Enjoy the profit

So there is Ryan's method and it was given freely lol :)



Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: sust1200 on December 08, 2014, 02:55:40 PM
haha great job!, almost fell for it. But his free tips is still decent i think :)


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: MisterGreen on December 08, 2014, 05:26:05 PM
Here I fixed it:

1)Give recognition to the kind of in-the-dark, information-starved, gambling addicted audience you are dealing with.
2)Put 5$ on an exchange.
3)Buy 50different alts for an amount of 0.1$ each.
4)2 or 3 of them will eventually pump.
5)Take screenshots (do not forget to hide the amount you bought)
6)Create fake btctalk accoutns to make them post nice words about your group.
7)Post some tip taken from investopedia.
8)Make people pay you the fee.
9)Enjoy the profit

So there is Ryan's method and it was given freely lol :)



Hahaha, priceless! ;D :D


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: shersingh on December 08, 2014, 07:09:37 PM
haha great job!, almost fell for it. But his free tips is still decent i think :)

Just invest your time and search good coin with no premine or very low premine.
And see if coin has good community then just buy coin for 15-30 days and you will earn good profit.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: rocoro on December 13, 2014, 04:37:51 AM
Bump for visibility and hopefully to save others from Ryan's scam & trolling for suckers!



Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: rocoro on December 13, 2014, 04:43:49 AM
haha great job!, almost fell for it. But his free tips is still decent i think :)

His advice, (if you really read into it) is nothing but pointless babble - or its things that are obvious to most anyone that he just explains over and over.  
Its' just made to look like it makes sense, but he never really gets specific.

Plus sometimes his charts have been questionable, quite off.



Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: coinits on January 05, 2015, 12:51:56 AM
http://bit.ly/1xv9YLt (http://bit.ly/1xv9YLt)


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: rocoro on January 05, 2015, 01:24:28 AM
http://bit.ly/1xv9YLt (http://bit.ly/1xv9YLt)

So you think its bobsurplus?  

Could very well be..  

I've made money from some of his pumps (i'm not in any of his groups though)
so I guess he serves some type of purpose.. I just don't like the scamming.





Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: coinits on January 05, 2015, 01:32:59 AM
http://bit.ly/1xv9YLt (http://bit.ly/1xv9YLt)

So you think its bobsurplus?  

Could very well be..  

I've made money from some of his pumps (i'm not in any of his groups though)
so I guess he serves some type of purpose.. I just don't like the scamming.





I do not know but the story of Bob appears to be playing out right here.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: rocoro on January 05, 2015, 01:50:08 PM
I would laugh if someone were big enough to join his group and continually sink him.

Then we could see how much of a "prophet" (profit? forgive the pun lol) he still is..  



Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: rocoro on January 05, 2015, 02:19:58 PM

https://i.imgur.com/CKsJslo.png (https://i.imgur.com/CKsJslo.png)

It really is nothing but pure manipulation..  his charts and analysis doesn't mean shit.




Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: unusualfacts30 on January 05, 2015, 03:44:53 PM
Every time someone tells you they're p&d group and asks you to pay. Your first question should be "I want a test ride before I pay". If they're legit they would have no reason to decline your offer. After all you're giving them free money so they should have no reason to decline your offer if they're legit.

If they decline your offer they're a scam.

99.9% of pump groups are scams. Ones that are legit don't post in forum. Why the hell would you share your secret with strangers from online who can't be trusted?

You won't


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: barabbas on January 05, 2015, 11:20:36 PM
Funny that you make a distinction between P&D groups (legitimate and non). And hilarious in fact that you may think of ANY P&D group as "legitimate"/ I guess the ethics are so perverted -for some- in crypto, that any for of stealing is OK... as long as it is done "discreetly". Wow.

Ryan Pumper, like Bob Surplus and Pr0metheus, Fontas, etc. are indeed all scammers. It is in fact redundant to state so for the whole P&D "game" is based in deception and, ultimately, thievery... in any possible iteration or evolution for the basis of it is the childish game of musical chairs.

Now, while those guys identified by name or handle are, indeed, the ones reaping the most benefits and the most infamy, let's not forget about those who also benefit in the shadow and for a fistful dollars of these scams, the so called "foot soldiers" or "ronin" that so many in the crypto scene long to be. Those are the ones that make the whole con possible.

Peculiarly, for some, they are "legit"...


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: stellar1 on January 11, 2015, 09:46:21 AM
Is it possible to design a scam filter (like an anti virus or otherwise) ?

The altcoin economy badly needs one.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: BombaUcigasa on January 12, 2015, 08:53:12 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=765426.msg10128585#msg10128585

ltcminer7 posts his experience, shit hits the fan, all hell breaks loose...


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: coinits on January 12, 2015, 08:55:46 PM
Is it possible to design a scam filter (like an anti virus or otherwise) ?

The altcoin economy badly needs one.

The filter is coming by way of regulation from the SEC. They are already monitoring this site. Thank PayCoin and GAW for that


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: xxxgoodgirls on January 12, 2015, 09:05:20 PM
People from the trust list should be notified to make Ryan get redflagged or are we still not 100% sure of its illegitimacy?


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: escrow.dude on January 12, 2015, 09:14:00 PM
pump and dump it is illegal, they want charge us people who cant even afford itd to join and even still the money they are make is no morals money it is dirty money because they take advantage

I do not care how much the money they are make if it is not honest

because if someone pump then they will dump also on us people who cannot affort it

no more pump and dump no more manipulation why cant we do honest trading. I will never take easy option

maybe they let us pump free but I will never pay the pumpers never


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: xxxgoodgirls on January 12, 2015, 09:17:30 PM
crossposting

Why are you people "from his group" defending Ryan?
You would not do that cause you don't want people suck your profits and volumes, especially in a thin market like the one we are.
The smaller/less noticed the group is the more profits to come for its members.
This goes so far against game of theory laws that all the people defending Ryan are obsiouvly multiple accounts from Ryan itself to suck 0.5btc and to dump on novices with all the fancy screenshots, investopedia advices, false feedbacks and ad hominem/derailing accusations.
It's so funny when someone just doubt the whole thing Ryan NEVER comes to defend itself but there magically appear bunchs of members from his group to defend him.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: Piston Honda on January 12, 2015, 09:20:12 PM
Is it possible to design a scam filter (like an anti virus or otherwise) ?

The altcoin economy badly needs one.

The filter is coming by way of regulation from the SEC. They are already monitoring this site. Thank PayCoin and GAW for that

Coming?  What do you mean coming?  They're already here ngga!!!!!!

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/2489792/mr-smith-lolololol-o.gif


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: HarryPotHead on January 12, 2015, 10:02:06 PM
Leave ryan the pumper alone why does everyone want abit of him, is it his pumping style that is bad?


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: BombaUcigasa on January 12, 2015, 10:04:40 PM
Leave ryan the pumper alone why does everyone want abit of him, is it his pumping style that is bad?
No. It's his false advertisements and toxic community he builds that prays on gullible and impressionable new members.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: HarryPotHead on January 12, 2015, 10:27:36 PM
Leave ryan the pumper alone why does everyone want abit of him, is it his pumping style that is bad?
No. It's his false advertisements and toxic community he builds that prays on gullible and impressionable new members.

The world is full of false advertisements why single out ryan the pumperalot is what i would like to know, also if a fool can be parted from his money the universal law makes sure he will surly be parted from his money  ::) maybe we should make a thread that spells out in no uncertain terms pumping is bad as is lying to noobies impressionable gullible little people. i am noobie and i have not lost any bitcoin so far just gained a little if i am honest but i am little and very impressionable, bye for now i am off to join a pump group


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: BombaUcigasa on January 12, 2015, 10:38:17 PM
Leave ryan the pumper alone why does everyone want abit of him, is it his pumping style that is bad?
No. It's his false advertisements and toxic community he builds that prays on gullible and impressionable new members.

The world is full of false advertisements why single out ryan the pumperalot is what i would like to know, also if a fool can be parted from his money the universal law makes sure he will surly be parted from his money  ::) maybe we should make a thread that spells out in no uncertain terms pumping is bad as is lying to noobies impressionable gullible little people. i am noobie and i have not lost any bitcoin so far just gained a little if i am honest but i am little and very impressionable, bye for now i am off to join a pump group
Good luck with your trading :P

I am a bit of a libertarian, if pumping is taking place and it is a desired activity, I can't stand against it. What are you, some kind of pudic victorian prude baby? Instead it should be clearly presented as such, with realistic and verifiable results.

For example, this is a ponzi: http://weeklyponzi.com/

It says right on the name, title, text, etc. It explains clearly you can get 130% or 0% from your deposit. All deposits and payments are transparent and completely listed. Technically this is a fair presentation of the service and potential users are informed of the process. The morality of the ponzi depends on each person and their environment and is of no relevance considering in less than two days people paid almost 200 000 USD to this site...


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: escrow.dude on January 12, 2015, 10:39:19 PM
For example, this is a ponzi: http://weeklyponzi.com/

It says right on the name, title, text, etc. It explains clearly you can get 130% or 0% from your deposit. All deposits and payments are transparent and completely listed. Technically this is a fair presentation of the service and potential users are informed of the process. The morality of the ponzi depends on each person and their environment and is of no relevance considering in less than two days people paid almost 200 000 USD to this site...

you will get banned for spam your website here

I will report if don't remove


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: BombaUcigasa on January 12, 2015, 10:40:28 PM
For example, this is a ponzi: http://weeklyponzi.com/

It says right on the name, title, text, etc. It explains clearly you can get 130% or 0% from your deposit. All deposits and payments are transparent and completely listed. Technically this is a fair presentation of the service and potential users are informed of the process. The morality of the ponzi depends on each person and their environment and is of no relevance considering in less than two days people paid almost 200 000 USD to this site...

you will get banned for spam your website here
What? It's not my website...


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: escrow.dude on January 12, 2015, 10:42:40 PM
For example, this is a ponzi: http://weeklyponzi.com/

It says right on the name, title, text, etc. It explains clearly you can get 130% or 0% from your deposit. All deposits and payments are transparent and completely listed. Technically this is a fair presentation of the service and potential users are informed of the process. The morality of the ponzi depends on each person and their environment and is of no relevance considering in less than two days people paid almost 200 000 USD to this site...

you will get banned for spam your website here
What? It's not my website...

I will report if don't remove and let moderator decide

it is spam because you say someone pay 200000usd so you wanted to promoted it

I have report and moderator will decide on you not me I don't judge you

in here we do honest not lie


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: BombaUcigasa on January 12, 2015, 10:52:55 PM
I don't judge you

in here we do honest not lie
Actually you judge me and you ignore what I write. That's not honest.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: escrow.dude on January 12, 2015, 10:54:25 PM
I don't judge you

in here we do honest not lie
Actually you judge me and you ignore what I write. That's not honest.

I don't argue I just report and maybe moderator ban you I don't know

spam is against rules here and maybe people will send and you don't pay them like scam

I don't know but I wont trust. I like honest thing not this one you do here


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: BombaUcigasa on January 12, 2015, 11:06:35 PM
I don't know but I wont trust. I like honest thing not this one you do here
Trust what? I know you don't understand English well, but seriously, you just want to do bad things to people for no reason. That's messed up.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: escrow.dude on January 12, 2015, 11:11:30 PM
For example, this is a ponzi: http://weeklyponzi.com/

It says right on the name, title, text, etc. It explains clearly you can get 130% or 0% from your deposit. All deposits and payments are transparent and completely listed. Technically this is a fair presentation of the service and potential users are informed of the process. The morality of the ponzi depends on each person and their environment and is of no relevance considering in less than two days people paid almost 200 000 USD to this site...

Why you post this one then? This is not relevant with the thing we discuss here

you should do honest thing not like this spam you post

please I don't do argument with you, if moderator don't like then they ban you it's not my fault


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: BombaUcigasa on January 12, 2015, 11:24:27 PM
For example, this is a ponzi: http://weeklyponzi.com/

It says right on the name, title, text, etc. It explains clearly you can get 130% or 0% from your deposit. All deposits and payments are transparent and completely listed. Technically this is a fair presentation of the service and potential users are informed of the process. The morality of the ponzi depends on each person and their environment and is of no relevance considering in less than two days people paid almost 200 000 USD to this site...

Why you post this one then? This is not relevant with the thing we discuss here

you should do honest thing not like this spam you post

please I don't do argument with you, if moderator don't like then they ban you it's not my fault

Because it is relevant to what we discuss, here let me quote it:

Quote
this is a ponzi...

It says right on the name, title, text, etc. It explains clearly you can get 130% or 0% from your deposit. All deposits and payments are transparent and completely listed. Technically this is a fair presentation of the service and potential users are informed of the process.

I think the site is shit and you should not send money to any ponzi. I did not ask anything from you but to see it as an example of a service that is not lying about what it is. It's not pretending to be something else, but a ponzi.

Unlike other services that claim false numbers and attack you when you comment on it. But if the moderators ban me, it's your fault. Why do you want to do this to me? Why the hate?


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: BombaUcigasa on January 12, 2015, 11:37:47 PM
Well, sorry if you don't like me and that I have upset you. I would never report you...

You can do whatever you want, it looks like you can't be reasoned with. Good luck!

Please don't ever visit this discussion forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=56.0


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he S T I L L not banned ?
Post by: microchoveur on March 17, 2015, 01:33:31 AM
Why the hell am I forced to see his terrible scam thread on the front page of the section "altcoin discussion" everyday I connect ?
My god seriously, everyone knows that he is a scammer, so why bringing bad reputation to the altcoin community and not close his thread ?


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he S T I L L not banned ?
Post by: MisterGreen on March 17, 2015, 02:15:21 AM
Why the hell am I forced to see his terrible scam thread on the front page of the section "altcoin discussion" everyday I connect ?
My god seriously, everyone knows that he is a scammer, so why bringing bad reputation to the altcoin community and not close his thread ?

Because he still finds naive "customers" who pay him his entry fee.



Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: coinits on March 17, 2015, 02:21:39 AM
1)Put 5$ on an exchange.
2)Buy 50different alts for an amount of 0.1$ each.
3)2 or 3 of them will eventually pump.
4)Take screenshots (do not forget to hide the amount you bought)
5)Create fake btctalk accoutns to make them post nice words about your group.
6)Post some tip taken from investopedia.
7)Make people pay you the fee.
8)Enjoy the profit

You forgot the biggest part of the scam....

Selling his bag of shit into the hands of the people who paid him the 0.5 BTC. He dumps the pump.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he S T I L L not banned ?
Post by: escrow.dude on March 17, 2015, 02:33:11 AM
they want to control

this i found they plan for us

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/358/d/c/hasoc_by_antares_deathart-d5p2ch5.jpg

PUMP AND DUMP IS ILLEGAL

Peoples please do not do this one! You will make money and someone will lose it but these men they do not care for us

they only want it to dominate us and control

do not push away your kind morals just to make money this one it has no worth it is a dirty money

we should all help one another here not like this secret society club that will decide on what happens to everyone here

no more pump and dump here


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he S T I L L not banned ?
Post by: Dofus on March 17, 2015, 12:25:45 PM
they want to control

this i found they plan for us

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/358/d/c/hasoc_by_antares_deathart-d5p2ch5.jpg

PUMP AND DUMP IS ILLEGAL

Peoples please do not do this one! You will make money and someone will lose it but these men they do not care for us

they only want it to dominate us and control

do not push away your kind morals just to make money this one it has no worth it is a dirty money

we should all help one another here not like this secret society club that will decide on what happens to everyone here

no more pump and dump here


Lewl  ;D


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he S T I L L not banned ?
Post by: herzogzwei on March 17, 2015, 01:01:58 PM
BTC Don't be naive. Shut up and listen!

Done with the PUMPERPICKS, so what can I say?
Definitely this stuff doesnt worth 0.5 btc at all.
Jesus, really 0.5? What for?

Let me explain
When you are gettin registered on PP, Ryan send to you "the expectations"

Quote:
"My expectation from each member is:
1. Full participation in each move.
2. Feel free to ask me whatever question you'd like about entry / exit points. I'm here to help.
3. Keep our picks private during the week. Once the week is over, you may discuss our activities freely.
What are your own expectations as a member of the group?"

1. About moves he is talking about. He did not told us to do any move.
2. Ok. We are asking for exit points? for 10K, Ryan? for gns? and other? No answer.
He told us about exiting in 50% profit range - jeez man, we know it without your 0.5 cost advices.
3. I keeped this shit
Our expectations is PROFIT! and nothing else. What a silly question.

This thing that called PUMPERPICKS made only for begginers-noobs-kiddies in crypto.

Numbers everywere, strategy. Strategy is the only thing you can take from PP project.
The chat - The PRIVATE IRC as they called it. 2-5 users, totally lamers.
No advices and no strategy. Quiet place.
When Ryan appears he ask us about positions we're in.... and Ryan is gone. What should we do?
Market is moving we re not.

Only one of six picks was helpful...

Nothing spectacular people you can do it youself.

Knowledge for free!

https://twitter.com/herzogzwei_bits


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: CryptoJerk on March 17, 2015, 01:04:38 PM
No it was actually a 53btc injection that pushed the price from 50 to 179

I don't care whatever you call it, accumulation or whatever. You fuckers have inside knowledge.

I am looking at the NKT chart now and I am seeing pre-buys where this group has been gathering coins. Loads of fucking pre buys since the 12th of jan, so "ryan" and his "group" obviously know something that they aren't telling us here.

It is insiders knowledge and "his group" obviously do know something that isn't being shared publicly. Thats the benefit of being in a private group i suppose ;)

Yeah so here you are bragging to everyone because you guys cheat the system every week am I supposed to be impressed or something?

I hate to discuss "private" matters here but I have personally worked with ryan before and I know how he operates. This is why I brought up bots and the whole 9. He's heavily into that shit because when you have your own servers you can work bots in multiple coins at a time without having to physically be there

You can setup your bots, head out to the beach (or whatever the fuck this guy does) and come home to 50btc of profit easily without breaking a sweat. You can do this every fucking day if you want

I am not a trader, I develop coins and make my money that way.

After working with ryan once on a "small job" that we paid him good money for (40btc) I used his services again to help my team accumulate a % of a certain coin. This is how I know ryan is working bots all over this market because with this coin that we were dealing with, you couldn't place a single sell order without 5 small orders undercutting you. Professional manipulation

He forced sell resistance higher with sell orders totaling 20btc which jammed up the coin and caused people to dump on our buys. Granted, the whole thing was done very impressively and he has obviously put together a pretty decent machine, no complaints there. What pissed me off is the total lack of empathy this guy has

His asking price for this service was 70btc to which we all agreed upon, we even ponied up 15btc upfront. Now with the price of this coin shot to shit, and the job done. Ryan, out of the fucking blue, asks for the remaining 65btc..... but how the fuck could we pay him right away without the price of the coin lifting first? I explained this to him 50 times but he didn't budge because he didn't "trust" us WTF ryan?

He kept his sell walls on the coin and kept his bots running.... basically holding us to ransom until we paid this 65btc

Now I'm all for manipulation, the market cant function without it. But what I value more than anything else is ethical manipulation, you don't break the gentleman's code over some BS like this

sure, maybe we should have had our shit together before bringing ryan on board but sometimes, in business, you have to understand that you need to take risks to make MORE money!! ryan didn't want to take that risk with us and basically hung us out to dry

We ended up paying him 10btc per day last week before he decided to remove his "sell pressure"

im sure ass kissers and cronies are thinking "if you want a service you have to pay for it" and "nothings for free" blah blah.. well fuck you! In business, it's give and take. Ryan wanted to get paid first and that's understandable, but we didn't have the dough to pay him so he could have helped us out on that front and given us a little leeway

i'm not a ryan hater like the rest... hell, the guy teaches how the market is manipulated and how to profit from it, that's respectable..  i have made good money here and there. I am just disappointed with the way he has treated my team and feel like it was wrong and could have been handled differently

great trader, but hes a miser and him and his group only make money because they manipulate the fuck out of this market. Every day they fill up on some random coin (like NKT). Then, out of the blue, this random shitcoin is pumping like hell and they only people that profit is ryan and his group,, not my type of scene

hell manipulation is there for all to see so I will profit from this regardless

You could even call me a manipulator, who gives a shit. In this market you're either fucking someone in the ass or getting fucked yourself. I don't care how much money you make in the process, if you get into bed with ryan you're shaking hands with the devil himself. I would much rather slug it out in the market and make money on my own, all it's gonna take is some elbow grease but im not scared to work hard. Fuck taking the easy route, that's for pussies who don't care about the guy the other side of the trade

Ryan is throwing around thousands of dollars because him and his group have BOUGHT ALL OF THE COINS ON THE MARKET!!!! It doesnt matter which coin pumps or when, all of the money goes to this fucking underground shitty little group

Ryan is working bots galore all over this fucking market there is no way in fucking hell you can "predict" all of this shit every fucking month like this GTFO

there is something you idiots are doing to "make things happen" so just come out and fucking say it

you tell me you are just going to "predict" 200 pumps naturally? OH FUCKING PLEASE this is NOT natural! no way is this "natural" either you guys have inside information or you are working with outside whales because wtf??

there is no way you can make this kind of volume just appear out of the freaking blue like this yet every time it does, you fuckers just happen to "know" about it MONTHS before the rest of us? Yeah maybe i can understand you seeing some shit popping off with all the talk on twitter and then scoring some money from a quick pump

but to do this every month is complete and total manipulation of the market it is NOT natural so stop insulting my intelligence just tell us ALL about the bots you are using so that we can get on a level playing field

NO ONE in this place should have ANY advantage




Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: escrow.dude on March 17, 2015, 01:09:14 PM
i told you they want to control

this is what they plan for us here

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/358/d/c/hasoc_by_antares_deathart-d5p2ch5.jpg

PUMP AND DUMP IS ILLEGAL

No more pump here from this groups No more pump,for you people you make money, but someone else will lost monye

This is not fair way to do here. It should be fair and open for everyone here to do their own business not because you pump groups want to do secret deals on us

I keep to say here and I will never remove! You will make money but we who cannot afford you, we do not know which of the coin that you are pumping so yes we are angry with you people because it is not fair to us

Maybe you do here for free for us at least maybe once or two time, or you just want us to look you make money?

if you do not than i am sure that is you people do not care about us you only want to be here for pump and dump and this is not honest

I do not care if you make million dollar here if it is dirty then it is not clean and honest money so i will not

Leave this place for us to do honest trading, no more pump here




Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: Piston Honda on March 17, 2015, 01:20:39 PM
1)Put 5$ on an exchange.
2)Buy 50different alts for an amount of 0.1$ each.
3)2 or 3 of them will eventually pump.
4)Take screenshots (do not forget to hide the amount you bought)
5)Create fake btctalk accoutns to make them post nice words about your group.
6)Post some tip taken from investopedia.
7)Make people pay you the fee.
8)Enjoy the profit

HAHA exaclty!


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: microchoveur on March 17, 2015, 01:22:53 PM
1)Put 5$ on an exchange.
2)Buy 50different alts for an amount of 0.1$ each.
3)2 or 3 of them will eventually pump.
4)Take screenshots (do not forget to hide the amount you bought)
5)Create fake btctalk accoutns to make them post nice words about your group.
6)Post some tip taken from investopedia.
7)Make people pay you the fee.
8)Enjoy the profit

HAHA exaclty!

Yeah alright, but now why the report button isn't working with ryan ?
Is he friend with moderators ? Pathetic...


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: CryptoJerk on March 17, 2015, 01:23:49 PM
No more pump here from this groups No more pump,for you people you make money, but someone else will lost monye

This is not fair way to do here. It should be fair and open for everyone here to do their own business not because you pump groups want to do secret deals on us

I keep to say here and I will never remove! You will make money but we who cannot afford you, we do not know which of the coin that you are pumping so yes we are angry with you people because it is not fair to us

Maybe you do here for free for us at least maybe once or two time, or you just want us to look you make money?

if you do not than i am sure that is you people do not care about us you only want to be here for pump and dump and this is not honest

I do not care if you make million dollar here if it is dirty then it is not clean and honest money so i will not

Leave this place for us to do honest trading, no more pump here


it is so bad that even if you mange to buy just before the pump

ryans group has already made damn near 300% profits and they will be selling as the price rises because they are the only ones who buy at the bottom

because ryan is the one that pushes the price down so that is how he knows where the "floor" is all the time

why do you think he keeps saying "think backwards" or "trade backwards" his bots manipulate prices down that is what he calls "shaking the trees" because when his bots are puting lower and lower sell orders, other people who dont know what they are doing start to compete with these bots and they put even lower sell orders themselves

then others realize that they are competing with a bot that isn't going to stop out bidding their sells so they just dump out

then everyone else follows and the price crashes

and then ryan and his shitty little group is waiting right there at the bottom to scoop up everyones coins before the "pump". he even put a little subliminal reference to this in his last post

This is why amateurs are jittery in the market – because they buy at all the wrong times and are therefore leaving themselves open to be exploited via the manipulation of perception.

The skilled trader who buys only at rock bottom prices doesn’t worry about the “dump it” cries. His ears are closed to the “scam coin” accusations – because when others begin to sell as a result of these tactics, they are selling to him! And weeks later, these same weak handed traders will be buying back these coins from the very people they sold them to - but this time at a severe price mark up.

To summarise; buying at the wrong time leaves you open to a variety of manipulation strategies that WILL be used against you. There is no doubt about it! I mean, the very act of buying at the wrong time is the result of yet another variation of manipulation – mass market deception.

this is what this sick cyborg guy calls "the price cycle"

they are in every coin at this point and are taking advantage of the entire market


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: herzogzwei on March 17, 2015, 01:29:06 PM
Bullshit
Fuck this, am serious
Am in group.
Gonna reveal this week PICKS for.. FREE!!!
Tonight  ;D


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: escrow.dude on March 17, 2015, 01:34:10 PM
Bullshit
Fuck this, am serious
Am in group.
Gonna reveal this week PICKS for.. FREE!!!
Tonight  ;D

THANK YOU GOD please you released it them now for us please??

Even follow your twitter i will do if you will do this one here for us who will be greateful?

He sended out monday so you have already the picks?

Please for post it here the screenshot for us to look

I am using school library so not will be here later unless i pay and use phone



Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: CryptoJerk on March 17, 2015, 01:46:37 PM
Bullshit
Fuck this, am serious
Am in group.
Gonna reveal this week PICKS for.. FREE!!!
Tonight  ;D

THANK YOU GOD please you released it them now for us please??

Even follow your twitter i will do if you will do this one here for us who will be greateful?

He sended out monday so you have already the picks?

Please for post it here the screenshot for us to look

I am using school library so not will be here later unless i pay and use phone


Wow dont be so desperate man you should have pmed him that for godsake. We are NOT fanboys for ryan here unlike everyone else and besides that guy is pulling your chain he doesnt have anything, just go to ryans thread and see how far his followers have pushed their heads inside his ass

they have formed a systematic machine to turn everything upside down

Ryan is a total cyborg with no care for the "little guy" unless you are part of his little "group"!!!this is a guy that devs are paying up to 10 to 15 btc a piece to pump their little shit coins with his 10,000 bots that are sucking all the bandwith from bittrex, do you think he cares to acknowledge us?

just look at the first page of his thread him and his group have directly been in probably 70% of all of the god damned coins on the fucking market that is how he knows what is going up and what is going down because him and his group are on one side of the market and everyone else is on the other side DUUH

devs have their noses so far up this guys ass that it's pathetic

Ryan is using bots and I am well on my way to having my own bots

keep swimming mr whale

I am right there on your fucking tail! and no, I am not a hater who gives a fuck how much money you have to throwaway I have no agenda

I'm just saying you are NOT the only one around here who knows a thing or two about how things really work and I am NOT afraid to compete with you

I have spent this whole month developing my own bots so GET READY FOR ME you little fucker because im coming


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: escrow.dude on March 17, 2015, 01:55:56 PM
I'm just saying you are NOT the only one around here who knows a thing or two about how things really work and I am NOT afraid to compete with you

I have spent this whole month developing my own bots so GET READY FOR ME you little fucker because im coming


Dont you dare it to talk to me like this me i am here to fight for morals because we dont need it this secret society club that will control us

you here because you are jealous and so you say you want it to COMPETE with these peoples

here you have said to us that you will do the same but i dont think that you able to giveaway money you even dont have group but you still say you will make secret society here on us to COMPETE with these people

this is dirty money for me and corrupt money so please it do not think that me i am like you

i do honest trade and i do by myself

never do i need to plan in secret i always do open

so dont you dare it because we will argue here and i will not stop until i must leave library

NO MORE PUMP AND DUMP


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: microchoveur on March 17, 2015, 06:22:22 PM
I'm just saying you are NOT the only one around here who knows a thing or two about how things really work and I am NOT afraid to compete with you

I have spent this whole month developing my own bots so GET READY FOR ME you little fucker because im coming


Dont you dare it to talk to me like this me i am here to fight for morals because we dont need it this secret society club that will control us

you here because you are jealous and so you say you want it to COMPETE with these peoples

here you have said to us that you will do the same but i dont think that you able to giveaway money you even dont have group but you still say you will make secret society here on us to COMPETE with these people

this is dirty money for me and corrupt money so please it do not think that me i am like you

i do honest trade and i do by myself

never do i need to plan in secret i always do open

so dont you dare it because we will argue here and i will not stop until i must leave library

NO MORE PUMP AND DUMP

Ahah and ryan is using his others accounts to make advertisment in a thread clearly exposing him as a scammer, what a fucking joke :D


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: herzogzwei on March 18, 2015, 06:19:08 AM
And that is it:
PROFIT: There has to be some form of automation in your strategy. So I advise that, after you have built a position that you are satisfied with, take 50% of that position and sprinkle it on the sell side. (Keep all sell orders as small as possible – below 0.1 BTC – so that your orders don’t increase upward resistance)These orders should be placed for a 40 – 50% gain. The other half of your position will be liquidated incrementally as the market continues to rise.

This video shows how you should be executing trades

THIS WEEKS MOVERS
These coins all provide opportunity for above average profit

BSTY, GEO, MTR, NAV

I’m also Monitoring

ASN, OCUPY, CXC, MARYJ


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: Piston Honda on March 19, 2015, 01:56:47 PM
And that is it:
PROFIT: There has to be some form of automation in your strategy. So I advise that, after you have built a position that you are satisfied with, take 50% of that position and sprinkle it on the sell side. (Keep all sell orders as small as possible – below 0.1 BTC – so that your orders don’t increase upward resistance)These orders should be placed for a 40 – 50% gain. The other half of your position will be liquidated incrementally as the market continues to rise.

This video shows how you should be executing trades

THIS WEEKS MOVERS
These coins all provide opportunity for above average profit

BSTY, GEO, MTR, NAV

I’m also Monitoring

ASN, OCUPY, CXC, MARYJ


cool of your to post this.

and as expected, that's funny given "ryan pumper" news....i check most of those main coins he posted (the 1st four) and they're all ALREADY up in price, TOO LATE for ppl to buy in once he sends out the message LOL YEAH THANKS LET ME BUY YOUR PUMPED COINS YOU'RE SELLING TO YOUR FOLLOWERS AND THE PUBLIC.  ::) since he's already accumulated.  sure you may get in JUST when he msg's you and see a bit of profit, but nowhere near what he claims in % or says you will.  you can see bots working those coins still (his of course) and well, you better hope they keep going up the rest of the week, otherwise you're bagholding with the rest.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: nembot on March 20, 2015, 05:22:41 PM
bump

let's keep this thread higher than the scam thread


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: coinits on March 20, 2015, 08:15:30 PM
bump

let's keep this thread higher than the scam thread


I agree with that. People need to be aware.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: asuryan180 on March 20, 2015, 11:14:09 PM
And that is it:
PROFIT: There has to be some form of automation in your strategy. So I advise that, after you have built a position that you are satisfied with, take 50% of that position and sprinkle it on the sell side. (Keep all sell orders as small as possible – below 0.1 BTC – so that your orders don’t increase upward resistance)These orders should be placed for a 40 – 50% gain. The other half of your position will be liquidated incrementally as the market continues to rise.

This video shows how you should be executing trades

THIS WEEKS MOVERS
These coins all provide opportunity for above average profit

BSTY, GEO, MTR, NAV

I’m also Monitoring

ASN, OCUPY, CXC, MARYJ


What was the date this was sent out and did any of these make good profit?

Atleast 8 coins to choose from that could be very dangerous how much should you put on each coin about a bitcoin? That would be costing about 8 bitcoin to join his group for a week if 4 of these pumped nicely you would make money but i don't no where to check as there is no date.

I was actually thinking about trying him out for a week but the thing holds me back is the army of newbies and the feeling of the paid shill or is that ryan, who knows.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: BombaUcigasa on March 21, 2015, 12:14:36 AM
And that is it:
PROFIT: There has to be some form of automation in your strategy. So I advise that, after you have built a position that you are satisfied with, take 50% of that position and sprinkle it on the sell side. (Keep all sell orders as small as possible – below 0.1 BTC – so that your orders don’t increase upward resistance)These orders should be placed for a 40 – 50% gain. The other half of your position will be liquidated incrementally as the market continues to rise.

This video shows how you should be executing trades

THIS WEEKS MOVERS
These coins all provide opportunity for above average profit

BSTY, GEO, MTR, NAV

I’m also Monitoring

ASN, OCUPY, CXC, MARYJ


What was the date this was sent out and did any of these make good profit?

Atleast 8 coins to choose from that could be very dangerous how much should you put on each coin about a bitcoin? That would be costing about 8 bitcoin to join his group for a week if 4 of these pumped nicely you would make money but i don't no where to check as there is no date.

I was actually thinking about trying him out for a week but the thing holds me back is the army of newbies and the feeling of the paid shill or is that ryan, who knows.
The date is on his post quote.

BSTY 460 >> 460
GEO 9000 >> 14000
MTR 30k >> 14k
NAV 2200 >> 3500

Looks like an average of 17% profit so far.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: IacceptBTC on March 21, 2015, 12:17:08 AM
lol those arent ryans picks you retards


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: rocoro on March 21, 2015, 02:06:06 AM
It would be good if people would realize and stop buying into these shitcoins - it would eliminate these idiot pump and dump groups.

Without people supporting and/or trading all these crappy coins,  this market would die off along with the moron p&d groups.

 ::)

Edit: I'm not saying ALL altcoins are bad.. some might even become something.  
Maybe invest a small portion of your funds in some you feel are very beneficial,  but don't get your hopes up.




Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: Hachoir on March 21, 2015, 06:54:37 AM
lol those arent ryans picks you retards

YOU are a retard.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: rocoro on March 21, 2015, 08:42:05 PM
Time for a bump,  ryan's shills are active


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: coinits on March 22, 2015, 02:57:24 PM
do not throw your hard-earned btc into this obvious scam


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: futureofbitcoin on March 22, 2015, 03:20:33 PM
And that is it:
PROFIT: There has to be some form of automation in your strategy. So I advise that, after you have built a position that you are satisfied with, take 50% of that position and sprinkle it on the sell side. (Keep all sell orders as small as possible – below 0.1 BTC – so that your orders don’t increase upward resistance)These orders should be placed for a 40 – 50% gain. The other half of your position will be liquidated incrementally as the market continues to rise.

This video shows how you should be executing trades

THIS WEEKS MOVERS
These coins all provide opportunity for above average profit

BSTY, GEO, MTR, NAV

I’m also Monitoring

ASN, OCUPY, CXC, MARYJ


What was the date this was sent out and did any of these make good profit?

Atleast 8 coins to choose from that could be very dangerous how much should you put on each coin about a bitcoin? That would be costing about 8 bitcoin to join his group for a week if 4 of these pumped nicely you would make money but i don't no where to check as there is no date.

I was actually thinking about trying him out for a week but the thing holds me back is the army of newbies and the feeling of the paid shill or is that ryan, who knows.
The date is on his post quote.

BSTY 460 >> 460
GEO 9000 >> 14000
MTR 30k >> 14k
NAV 2200 >> 3500

Looks like an average of 17% profit so far.
Not the whole picture. From the post til now, every single one of those coins have reached 30%+ gains at some point (or multiple points) and I think every single one of them has also gone down significantly at least once.



Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: BombaUcigasa on March 22, 2015, 05:25:21 PM
The date is on his post quote.

BSTY 460 >> 460
GEO 9000 >> 14000
MTR 30k >> 14k
NAV 2200 >> 3500

Looks like an average of 17% profit so far.
Not the whole picture. From the post til now, every single one of those coins have reached 30%+ gains at some point (or multiple points) and I think every single one of them has also gone down significantly at least once.
Complete picture: super mega lucky max profit take from lowest price to highest price...

BSTY 426 >> 721
GEO 9140 >> 14470
MTR 23.4k >> 41k
NAV 2000 >> 3640

Average maximum one trade profit with one in a million timing chance: 71.2% in 4 days.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: IacceptBTC on March 22, 2015, 05:31:34 PM
those arent ryans picks you dweebs

get the guy who posted them to login to private chat and screenshot, he cant cause he isnt in the group

lol he trolled you and left


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: BombaUcigasa on March 22, 2015, 08:56:12 PM
those arent ryans picks you dweebs

get the guy who posted them to login to private chat and screenshot, he cant cause he isnt in the group

lol he trolled you and left
Profit is profit, y u mad tho?


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: mikeymillie on March 23, 2015, 09:26:06 AM
And that is it:
PROFIT: There has to be some form of automation in your strategy. So I advise that, after you have built a position that you are satisfied with, take 50% of that position and sprinkle it on the sell side. (Keep all sell orders as small as possible – below 0.1 BTC – so that your orders don’t increase upward resistance)These orders should be placed for a 40 – 50% gain. The other half of your position will be liquidated incrementally as the market continues to rise.

This video shows how you should be executing trades

THIS WEEKS MOVERS
These coins all provide opportunity for above average profit

BSTY, GEO, MTR, NAV

I’m also Monitoring

ASN, OCUPY, CXC, MARYJ


cool of your to post this.

and as expected, that's funny given "ryan pumper" news....i check most of those main coins he posted (the 1st four) and they're all ALREADY up in price, TOO LATE for ppl to buy in once he sends out the message LOL YEAH THANKS LET ME BUY YOUR PUMPED COINS YOU'RE SELLING TO YOUR FOLLOWERS AND THE PUBLIC.  ::) since he's already accumulated.  sure you may get in JUST when he msg's you and see a bit of profit, but nowhere near what he claims in % or says you will.  you can see bots working those coins still (his of course) and well, you better hope they keep going up the rest of the week, otherwise you're bagholding with the rest.


That's because he's not pumping anything except bullshit lol.  Standard wannabe baller type of twitter trader who finds a coin that's already been quietly pumped by others and tries to announce it as if he was responsible for the price rise.  Phonies like this are a dime a dozen.   Next...


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: nembot on March 31, 2015, 03:31:57 PM
bump


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: rocoro on March 31, 2015, 03:51:38 PM
If everyone concentrates on coins that show solid potential and just stick with them,  it will slowly get p&d groups like his out of the markets.

All buying, minimal selling, holding and advancing coins = good for market, flushes out the crap p&d scams.  

Tip: If you feel you bought too high in some coin, but still believe in the technology and the reasons you bought,  then DON'T FUCKING PANIC if price sinking.
       You should be buying up more if the price is down... read up on DOLLAR COST AVERAGING! http://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/dollarcostaveraging.asp (http://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/dollarcostaveraging.asp)
       Watch the video on that page, that illustrates the concept well.

No buy & sell / daytrading = no more pump n dump idiot groups.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: Braino on March 31, 2015, 07:58:32 PM
Butthurt thread.

Use your brain first, then trade, then profit.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: rocoro on March 31, 2015, 08:20:03 PM

Use your brain first, then trade, then profit.

No, we are done feeding your stupid, shitty pump & dumps.

Crypto has a purpose and there are coins that have genuine value.

Goodbye now,  the market no longer needs you.




Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: Braino on March 31, 2015, 08:25:03 PM
No, we are done feeding your stupid, shitty pump & dumps.

Crypto has a purpose and there are coins that have genuine value.

Goodbye now,  the market no longer needs you.
I don't do pump & dumps. That's too complex for me, I like things simple.

I trade.

I profit.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: rocoro on March 31, 2015, 08:29:29 PM
No, we are done feeding your stupid, shitty pump & dumps.

Crypto has a purpose and there are coins that have genuine value.

Goodbye now,  the market no longer needs you.
I don't do pump & dumps. That's too complex for me, I like things simple.

I trade.

I profit.


I invest,  I profit and contribute to adoption of advancing technologies,  in order to change the way of life for people.  

Coins have purpose and use value greater than shortsighted profits.





Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: Braino on March 31, 2015, 08:41:21 PM
...
Coins have purpose and use value greater than shortsighted profits.
...
I like both of these things.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: rocoro on March 31, 2015, 08:46:43 PM
When you start to see how the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few,  your focus shifts from selfishness - towards trying to bring about change in your world,  which in turn includes & brings about change for you.





Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: asuryan180 on March 31, 2015, 09:05:02 PM
When you start to see how the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few,  your focus shifts from selfishness - towards trying to bring about change in your world,  which in turn includes & brings about change for you.

This is wise words ^^, if you have seen the pumpers thread you will see how selfish and rude most of them guys are so even if it was true and they was making decent money (which they are not just ryans shills pretending) then it is not doing them any good anyway because they only care about their self and prey on others. When they wake up from their greediness all will remain is nothingness and then hopefully they bring about that change. On a side note are you Dev of Shaddow?


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: coinits on April 01, 2015, 01:15:19 AM
Butthurt thread.

Use your brain first, then trade, then profit.

Have you been reamed?


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: MisterGreen on April 01, 2015, 02:20:08 AM
No, we are done feeding your stupid, shitty pump & dumps.

Crypto has a purpose and there are coins that have genuine value.

Goodbye now,  the market no longer needs you.
I don't do pump & dumps. That's too complex for me, I like things simple.

I trade.

I profit.

Hmmm, if you don't do p&d why then post this thread?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1008517.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1008517.0)

That looks exactly like you want to pump this coin and then dump on others when the price fits your profit range. So you do pump & dump or just try it. :P


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: Braino on April 01, 2015, 01:41:44 PM
Actually in the thread you linked to:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1008517.msg10945514#msg10945514

I specifically say "Meantime who needs pump groups..."

That thread was observational and anyone who was smart made profit. If they didn't make profit then they probably aren't that smart and in that case they should consider a new hobby.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: Newmine on April 01, 2015, 02:18:11 PM
He hasn't been banned because he probably donates to theymos. Bit talks and shit stays I guess.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: night.0wl on April 01, 2015, 02:23:55 PM
ryanpumper = scammer
all pnd groups are scams
imagine how pathetic you have to be to start a thread like that and try to make money this way.. ::)


oh well retards gonna retard.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: godidi on April 01, 2015, 02:35:50 PM
I agree with the tittle of this thread. RYANPUMPER is SCAMMMMMMMMMMMER. I can comfirm that.

This guy just want to scam everyone especially newbie about crypto, trading. He give out the giveaway 0.5BTC is fake. I have followed him during a

week. Winners his giveaway are the same gang with him. He announced the wrong winner of the 2nd and 3rd with same person . While it's not possible

that such confusion (more than 200 participants) after that, he changed winner 3rd by other one. My english is not good so I am difficult to express

what I want to say to you here.

Trust me ! Keep away from his tweet and posts.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: escrow.dude on April 01, 2015, 02:37:41 PM
i told you they want to control

this is what they plan for us here

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/358/d/c/hasoc_by_antares_deathart-d5p2ch5.jpg

PUMP AND DUMP IS ILLEGAL

No more pump here from this groups No more pump,for you people you make money, but someone else will lost monye

This is not fair way to do here. It should be fair and open for everyone here to do their own business not because you pump groups want to do secret deals on us

I keep to say here and I will never remove! You will make money but we who cannot afford you, we do not know which of the coin that you are pumping so yes we are angry with you people because it is not fair to us

Maybe you do here for free for us at least maybe once or two time, or you just want us to look you make money?

if you do not than i am sure that is you people do not care about us you only want to be here for pump and dump and this is not honest

I do not care if you make million dollar here if it is dirty then it is not clean and honest money so i will not

Leave this place for us to do honest trading, no more pump here


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: WhatInTehButt on April 11, 2015, 01:04:55 PM
it's so weird how the ryans chat was apparently down b/c of overload..but then no one is there 100% empty.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: coinits on April 14, 2015, 01:51:38 AM
Ryan is pumping his OP again. Be safe investors. Do your due diligence first.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: adaseb on April 14, 2015, 06:25:30 AM
He actually reminds me of Timothy Sykes. For those of you who don't know he has a similar program but only for penny stocks. Ryans and his writing style are almost identical.

In my opinion, they are both genius marketers but probably very bad traders. They basically rely on newbies who they can convince they can get rich just buy playing the stock market.

I feel bad for the OP but we have all been there. I am not surprised he didn't offer you a refund. They never do. They always write it in the disclaimer somewhere stating "I'm not a investment professional... this is just for entertainment purposes...etc etc".

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1166026278/TimCover1_400x400.jpg


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: choochimil on April 14, 2015, 10:47:29 AM
I wouldnt pay the fee to join, but I do find the advice posts quite informative. The principles do make sense most of the time.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: CryptoJerk on April 14, 2015, 11:54:23 AM
No it was actually a 53btc injection that pushed the price from 50 to 179

I don't care whatever you call it, accumulation or whatever. You fuckers have inside knowledge.

I am looking at the NKT chart now and I am seeing pre-buys where this group has been gathering coins. Loads of fucking pre buys since the 12th of jan, so "ryan" and his "group" obviously know something that they aren't telling us here.

It is insiders knowledge and "his group" obviously do know something that isn't being shared publicly. Thats the benefit of being in a private group i suppose ;)

Yeah so here you are bragging to everyone because you guys cheat the system every week am I supposed to be impressed or something?

I hate to discuss "private" matters here but I have personally worked with ryan before and I know how he operates. This is why I brought up bots and the whole 9. He's heavily into that shit because when you have your own servers you can work bots in multiple coins at a time without having to physically be there

You can setup your bots, head out to the beach (or whatever the fuck this guy does) and come home to 50btc of profit easily without breaking a sweat. You can do this every fucking day if you want

I am not a trader, I develop coins and make my money that way.

After working with ryan once on a "small job" that we paid him good money for (40btc) I used his services again to help my team accumulate a % of a certain coin. This is how I know ryan is working bots all over this market because with this coin that we were dealing with, you couldn't place a single sell order without 5 small orders undercutting you. Professional manipulation

He forced sell resistance higher with sell orders totaling 20btc which jammed up the coin and caused people to dump on our buys. Granted, the whole thing was done very impressively and he has obviously put together a pretty decent machine, no complaints there. What pissed me off is the total lack of empathy this guy has

His asking price for this service was 70btc to which we all agreed upon, we even ponied up 15btc upfront. Now with the price of this coin shot to shit, and the job done. Ryan, out of the fucking blue, asks for the remaining 65btc..... but how the fuck could we pay him right away without the price of the coin lifting first? I explained this to him 50 times but he didn't budge because he didn't "trust" us WTF ryan?

He kept his sell walls on the coin and kept his bots running.... basically holding us to ransom until we paid this 65btc

Now I'm all for manipulation, the market cant function without it. But what I value more than anything else is ethical manipulation, you don't break the gentleman's code over some BS like this

sure, maybe we should have had our shit together before bringing ryan on board but sometimes, in business, you have to understand that you need to take risks to make MORE money!! ryan didn't want to take that risk with us and basically hung us out to dry

We ended up paying him 10btc per day last week before he decided to remove his "sell pressure"

im sure ass kissers and cronies are thinking "if you want a service you have to pay for it" and "nothings for free" blah blah.. well fuck you! In business, it's give and take. Ryan wanted to get paid first and that's understandable, but we didn't have the dough to pay him so he could have helped us out on that front and given us a little leeway

i'm not a ryan hater like the rest... hell, the guy teaches how the market is manipulated and how to profit from it, that's respectable..  i have made good money here and there. I am just disappointed with the way he has treated my team and feel like it was wrong and could have been handled differently

great trader, but hes a miser and him and his group only make money because they manipulate the fuck out of this market. Every day they fill up on some random coin (like NKT). Then, out of the blue, this random shitcoin is pumping like hell and they only people that profit is ryan and his group,, not my type of scene

hell manipulation is there for all to see so I will profit from this regardless

You could even call me a manipulator, who gives a shit. In this market you're either fucking someone in the ass or getting fucked yourself. I don't care how much money you make in the process, if you get into bed with ryan you're shaking hands with the devil himself. I would much rather slug it out in the market and make money on my own, all it's gonna take is some elbow grease but im not scared to work hard. Fuck taking the easy route, that's for pussies who don't care about the guy the other side of the trade

Ryan is throwing around thousands of dollars because him and his group have BOUGHT ALL OF THE COINS ON THE MARKET!!!! It doesnt matter which coin pumps or when, all of the money goes to this fucking underground shitty little group

Ryan is working bots galore all over this fucking market there is no way in fucking hell you can "predict" all of this shit every fucking month like this GTFO

there is something you idiots are doing to "make things happen" so just come out and fucking say it

you tell me you are just going to "predict" 200 pumps naturally? OH FUCKING PLEASE this is NOT natural! no way is this "natural" you guys have inside information!!

there is no way you can make this kind of volume just appear out of the freaking blue like this yet every time it does, you fuckers just happen to "know" about it MONTHS before the rest of us?  to do this every month is complete and total manipulation of the market it is NOT natural so stop insulting my intelligence just tell us ALL about the bots you are using so that we can get on a level playing field

NO ONE in this place should have ANY advantage

EDIT and no i am NOT a hater I dont give a fucking shit how much money this stupid asshole little group is making, i could care less!! i have my own bots being developed and when they are complete I'LL be the main guy around here! Put THAT in your pipe




Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: BombaUcigasa on April 14, 2015, 01:14:37 PM
you tell me you are just going to "predict" 200 pumps naturally? OH FUCKING PLEASE this is NOT natural! no way is this "natural" you guys have inside information!!
Actually there is a way used on the penny stocks market. The 45 days moving average. When it starts going up, people start buying into the stock, it means it won't go any lower, all weak hands folded for over a month, possible minimal price. Example: https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-GRID (super shitty 100% PD coin making sudden comeback).

At this point however, big whales will control the price by wiping buy support then replacing it with their own. And the whales start to fight over each other for the lump of stocks.

And then, they find idiots to put up buy support 200% higher. And they convince them the price is the best, they start selling into them for days/weeks.

You think whales make their bang during the run-up? No, that's just bagholders bagholding each other, no whale could profit at those prices, they instead cash out long before the peak. 200% on 10 BTC is better than 2000% on 1 BTC.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: nembot on April 14, 2015, 06:26:26 PM
CryptoJerk is Ryan too.  Please tell me you realize that. Just thinking laterally & doing some "negative" positive sock posts because the number of worshipful sock-posts and "pump group member" socks posting about their INSANE PROFITS and using the same gifs of people spilling champagne was getting a bit see-through.  So now you have the bitter excluded from-the-group loser sock puppet.  "Aye'll bee back, damn yor eyes you dam profiteers..."


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: vectorxy208 on April 15, 2015, 10:33:51 AM
I've not yet concluded that I've been scammed but it sure as hell doesn't look good XD.
But I'm still giving Ryan the benefit of doubt here.

9 days ago I gave Ryan .5 BTC to join his group.
There were some things I noted quickly and a long the way that was/is of concern:

1st and most importantly: I've so far made ZERO profit from this group. I'm 1.5 poorer atm, 1 BTC from investing in 2 of Ryan's coins and .5 BTC from 1 week membership fee. I've been following his instructions on what price to buy into the coins but have not been able to sell anything yet since there has simply not been any options to do so. My ambiton was obviously to at least earn back the fee I paid and hopefully go plus from there.

Ryans' reply to this? Since it was a PM I won't copy/paste because I respect the "private" part of it, but basically he's saying it's natural to not sell anything at all during a week of membership (to not make any profit). He's saying profit will come eventually if I'm just patient enough. He also explained the weekly statistics as something that is often misinterpreted by new members..the stats apparently don't show how much profit members have made but how much a certain coin has moved up/down totally. When I joined the group I expected that if a coin says +50% this is how much I'd be making, following Ryans instructions on when to sell. But no, this was not the case. I'd have made close to 200% last week if the stats displayed what I though they displayed. But there was never a single point during the week where I could actually sell anything and profit (more than possibly a few cents). Instead I'm just bagholding atm (and paid and entry fee for it). Ryan also made clear to me there's actually not even any real exit points, only entries. This does directly go against what's stated on the website where it more or less states the membership price includes instructions on when to exit the market.

Secondly there's basically extremely little communication and 90% of it is over PM. I met 1 other group member in chat but he wanted to discuss his picks privately with Ryan. Who knows if it was another legit member or not. So zero tips or communication from other members. I also met Ryan in the chat one day and we talked for a while. But other than that the chatroom was 100% empty of activity.

So yeah. I went in with an open mind and will to gamble a bit of my money but so far it has not given any returns. I've had better luck @ the casino.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: BombaUcigasa on April 15, 2015, 10:49:16 AM
If you want exit points, look at the previous coin pump levels. Some coins go up 50%, some go up 100%, some go up more than 200%. Simply put a third of your coins at YOUR_BUY_PRICE + 50%. Then at 100%. Then the rest at 200%. Or split them in 4 stacks and put the orders at 300%. You never know how high the coin goes, but this should recover all your investment.

Professional traders know exactly where to exit, and even then, they only put a percentage of their entry size, they leave some for even higher profits, with alarms to wake them up in the middle of the night...


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: vectorxy208 on April 15, 2015, 02:34:57 PM
If you want exit points, look at the previous coin pump levels. Some coins go up 50%, some go up 100%, some go up more than 200%. Simply put a third of your coins at YOUR_BUY_PRICE + 50%. Then at 100%. Then the rest at 200%. Or split them in 4 stacks and put the orders at 300%. You never know how high the coin goes, but this should recover all your investment.

Professional traders know exactly where to exit, and even then, they only put a percentage of their entry size, they leave some for even higher profits, with alarms to wake them up in the middle of the night...

I haven't been able to sell anything @ those levels yet, maybe in future. Time will tell, I guess.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: escrow.dude on April 15, 2015, 02:44:32 PM
they want to control

this i found they plan for us

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/358/d/c/hasoc_by_antares_deathart-d5p2ch5.jpg

PUMP AND DUMP IS ILLEGAL

Peoples please do not do this one! You will make money and someone will lose it but these men they do not care for us

they only want it to dominate us and control

do not push away your kind morals just to make money this one it has no worth it is a dirty money

we should all help one another here not like this secret society club that will decide on what happens to everyone here

no more pump and dump here


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: itod on April 15, 2015, 06:29:55 PM
I've not yet concluded that I've been scammed but it sure as hell doesn't look good XD.
But I'm still giving Ryan the benefit of doubt here.

9 days ago I gave Ryan .5 BTC to join his group.
There were some things I noted quickly and a long the way that was/is of concern:

1st and most importantly: I've so far made ZERO profit from this group. I'm 1.5 poorer atm, 1 BTC from investing in 2 of Ryan's coins and .5 BTC from 1 week membership fee. I've been following his instructions on what price to buy into the coins but have not been able to sell anything yet since there has simply not been any options to do so. My ambiton was obviously to at least earn back the fee I paid and hopefully go plus from there.

Ryans' reply to this? Since it was a PM I won't copy/paste because I respect the "private" part of it, but basically he's saying it's natural to not sell anything at all during a week of membership (to not make any profit). He's saying profit will come eventually if I'm just patient enough. He also explained the weekly statistics as something that is often misinterpreted by new members..the stats apparently don't show how much profit members have made but how much a certain coin has moved up/down totally. When I joined the group I expected that if a coin says +50% this is how much I'd be making, following Ryans instructions on when to sell. But no, this was not the case. I'd have made close to 200% last week if the stats displayed what I though they displayed. But there was never a single point during the week where I could actually sell anything and profit (more than possibly a few cents). Instead I'm just bagholding atm (and paid and entry fee for it). Ryan also made clear to me there's actually not even any real exit points, only entries. This does directly go against what's stated on the website where it more or less states the membership price includes instructions on when to exit the market.

Secondly there's basically extremely little communication and 90% of it is over PM. I met 1 other group member in chat but he wanted to discuss his picks privately with Ryan. Who knows if it was another legit member or not. So zero tips or communication from other members. I also met Ryan in the chat one day and we talked for a while. But other than that the chatroom was 100% empty of activity.

So yeah. I went in with an open mind and will to gamble a bit of my money but so far it has not given any returns. I've had better luck @ the casino.

I don't feel sympathy for your troubles at all. It's unbelievable that you were so naive that you actually thought Ryan's "coin gain" percentages are true and not fraud. Nobody could be so naive not to be suspicious those percentages are simple Rayn's fraud. Do you really want us to believe you thought Ryan earns those percentages and have to sell some 0.5 BTC "membership fee"? It's also obvious why there are no exit points in those "advises" he sells, only entry points. Reason is simple: Your entry points are his exit points, when he advises you to buy he actually sells to you for higher price coins he bought a week earlier while they were cheap. He can not tell you exit points because there are no exit points for you, only for him. Anyone who doesn't see these obvious facts deserves to be scammed by Ryan week by week.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: FunnyHat43 on April 15, 2015, 06:49:37 PM

I feel sorry for the poor souls who bought crave at 3000 Sats and made 4000% profit in a week

http://31.media.tumblr.com/2b4c7d147f5a7bfa95bf2001e7242f83/tumblr_n43ayrRsy61s9ab4to1_400.gif

 


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: escrow.dude on April 15, 2015, 06:52:37 PM
PUMP AND DUMP IS ILLEGAL

Peoples please do not do this one! You will make money and someone will lose it but they do not care for us

do not push away your kind morals just to make money this one it has no worth it is a dirty money

we should all help one another here not like this secret society club that will decide on what happens to everyone here

i will keep to say i will never remove this one

no more pump and dump here


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: BTCfaucetTIME on April 15, 2015, 06:58:06 PM
PUMP AND DUMP IS ILLEGAL

Peoples please do not do this one! You will make money and someone will lose it but they do not care for us

do not push away your kind morals just to make money this one it has no worth it is a dirty money

we should all help one another here not like this secret society club that will decide on what happens to everyone here

i will keep to say i will never remove this one

no more pump and dump here

no illegal its not actually in this place, but it is dirty and sly and maybe even every pump and dump should be banish from here this place
even look one of their member come here to continue brag how much money they are make infront of us
they do not want to trade only they will do their manipulations and then laugh at everyone and say how easy it is for them
maybe we here who hate these people we make own group for ourself and we be own boss for ourself
five of us we come together and we put 1 bitcoin for each of us so that we now have 5 btc and we are more powerful like this
or maybe we put more, i do not know it why these people will no go away from here and leave us to do normal trading
they want easy life, they do not want to work it like hard working good heart people, so all they will do is manipulate


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: Spoetnik on April 15, 2015, 11:23:30 PM
Dumb topic..
Read the forum rules kid  ::)

Scamming is NOT against the rules .

Don't like it then leave because they won't.
I have seen this brought up endlessly same demands and outrage.. read the rules and stickied topics
..then use your brain.

and yeah of course I hate the scammers so I am not defending them.. I hope karma bites them all in the ass hard !


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: vectorxy208 on April 16, 2015, 11:18:37 AM
I've not yet concluded that I've been scammed but it sure as hell doesn't look good XD.
But I'm still giving Ryan the benefit of doubt here.

9 days ago I gave Ryan .5 BTC to join his group.
There were some things I noted quickly and a long the way that was/is of concern:

1st and most importantly: I've so far made ZERO profit from this group. I'm 1.5 poorer atm, 1 BTC from investing in 2 of Ryan's coins and .5 BTC from 1 week membership fee. I've been following his instructions on what price to buy into the coins but have not been able to sell anything yet since there has simply not been any options to do so. My ambiton was obviously to at least earn back the fee I paid and hopefully go plus from there.

Ryans' reply to this? Since it was a PM I won't copy/paste because I respect the "private" part of it, but basically he's saying it's natural to not sell anything at all during a week of membership (to not make any profit). He's saying profit will come eventually if I'm just patient enough. He also explained the weekly statistics as something that is often misinterpreted by new members..the stats apparently don't show how much profit members have made but how much a certain coin has moved up/down totally. When I joined the group I expected that if a coin says +50% this is how much I'd be making, following Ryans instructions on when to sell. But no, this was not the case. I'd have made close to 200% last week if the stats displayed what I though they displayed. But there was never a single point during the week where I could actually sell anything and profit (more than possibly a few cents). Instead I'm just bagholding atm (and paid and entry fee for it). Ryan also made clear to me there's actually not even any real exit points, only entries. This does directly go against what's stated on the website where it more or less states the membership price includes instructions on when to exit the market.

Secondly there's basically extremely little communication and 90% of it is over PM. I met 1 other group member in chat but he wanted to discuss his picks privately with Ryan. Who knows if it was another legit member or not. So zero tips or communication from other members. I also met Ryan in the chat one day and we talked for a while. But other than that the chatroom was 100% empty of activity.

So yeah. I went in with an open mind and will to gamble a bit of my money but so far it has not given any returns. I've had better luck @ the casino.

I don't feel sympathy for your troubles at all. It's unbelievable that you were so naive that you actually thought Ryan's "coin gain" percentages are true and not fraud. Nobody could be so naive not to be suspicious those percentages are simple Rayn's fraud. Do you really want us to believe you thought Ryan earns those percentages and have to sell some 0.5 BTC "membership fee"? It's also obvious why there are no exit points in those "advises" he sells, only entry points. Reason is simple: Your entry points are his exit points, when he advises you to buy he actually sells to you for higher price coins he bought a week earlier while they were cheap. He can not tell you exit points because there are no exit points for you, only for him. Anyone who doesn't see these obvious facts deserves to be scammed by Ryan week by week.

None requested! If you think sympathy was the reason for my post you're mistaken. I knew it was a gamble when I went into it. I was just curious and thought the odds of getting something in return *might* be better than at a roulette table. But I was wrong apparently. I don't beat myself up over it at all, but of course I'd rather inform other people about my experience than keep quiet about it.

I'd also like to state I think Ryan's pretty darn convincing in what he does for many reason. I read through most of his website before joining and it contains a lot of seemingly good advice. He's definitely working hard on this "art". I think it's nice to have topics like this where people can be informed of the different tactics used.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: escrow.dude on April 16, 2015, 12:20:45 PM

DO NOT YOU DARE COME TO HERE TO BOAST ON US

we have said it we do not care about it even if you so much money make it

how will you dare to come to here and tell us about this your dirty money

even if they will make me to walk in Jaipur naked that one i will do before i do shameful thing and be with you secret society club that want to control

this one does not please us here we do not want to put the kind morals of ours on the floor to be with devil

NO MORE PUMP IT AND THEN DUMP! THIS ONE IS ILLEGAL

no i do not care what will happen to me here in this place

i am good moral man and i will do honesty for all of us here to see and maybe they say i am good guy for doing it

i do not need to be with gang to trade this one will not give me power

slowly i will do even five dollar to me is better than five millions even if i will do slow one dollar each two days

this one is better than boasting dirty money for us to look and be angry


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: EnzoBlaque on April 16, 2015, 12:39:02 PM
DO NOT YOU DARE COME TO HERE TO BOAST ON US

we have said it we do not care about it even if you so much money make it

how will you dare to come to here and tell us about this your dirty money

even if they will make me to walk in Jaipur naked that one i will do before i do shameful thing and be with you secret society club that want to control

this one does not please us here we do not want to put the kind morals of ours on the floor to be with devil

NO MORE PUMP IT AND THEN DUMP! THIS ONE IS ILLEGAL

no i do not care what will happen to me here in this place

i am good moral man and i will do honesty for all of us here to see and maybe they say i am good guy for doing it

i do not need to be with gang to trade this one will not give me power

slowly i will do even five dollar to me is better than five millions even if i will do slow one dollar each two days

this one is better than boasting dirty money for us to look and be angry

https://i.imgur.com/cQQkxGt.gif


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: shanem on April 16, 2015, 02:39:11 PM
Pump and dump is not illegal.
It is happening everyone even in the stock market.
We need to find good coins to buy instead of buying into hype to avoid losing btc.


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: hellscabane on April 16, 2015, 04:12:20 PM
I like how this has basically turned into a somewhat of a shilling thread.

Getting to the heart of the question, RyanPumper is not banned because his namesake is literally what he does in real life ;D. And well, that's gotta count for something right?


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: SecretsOfCrypto on April 16, 2015, 05:24:02 PM
Its a pump group just like the hundreds of other pump groups. Don't be fooled or bothered by it.

https://iwanticewater.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/funny-gifs-wake-up-lemming-sheeple.gif


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer.
Post by: nemo on April 17, 2015, 02:08:42 AM
i thought there were real members in his group?

Nothing is real here


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: gravitate on June 07, 2015, 10:27:41 AM
So what way do they scam?


Title: Re: RyanPumper is a scammer. Why the fuck is he STILL not banned ?
Post by: Piston Honda on June 08, 2015, 12:42:23 AM
Its a pump group just like the hundreds of other pump groups. Don't be fooled or bothered by it.

https://iwanticewater.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/funny-gifs-wake-up-lemming-sheeple.gif

this right here, very correct