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We are a group that has had Bingo, Video Poker, Keno, Pulltabs online since 2000, and well liked in that community.

We are proud to announce the BETA launch of PM Poker, the first online poker site that follows true casino poker rules as played in Las Vegas.

This is custom software which we are still trying to get a few kinks out, and will introduce new features as soon as completed.  We currently only offering Sit and Go Texas Hold’em.  We hope to have Ring Game out by the end of June.

We only have a Windows client, but have tested in Wine on Linux, and should work on other Wine supported platforms.

Features:

•   FREEROLL 4 player Sit-n-Go game, winner gets 4 mBTC
•   Fast and simple automatic deposit and withdrawals of Bitcoin
•   Bounty SNG games on 100 mBTC and higher
•   Free Play available prior to registration to try us out
•   Wagering in SNG follow WSOP™ rules

Comments, suggestions, and questions are all welcome.

www.pmpoker.com (http://www.pmpoker.com)

Follow us @twitter.com/PM_Poker (http://twitter.com/PM_Poker)

awesome, great to see another online casino support bitcoin :)

added to my list https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75883.0

What is the website for your casino and bingo?

Can't play. Windows only.

BingoGold.com

Im pretty sure there is not a bitcoin bingo yet, be sure to announce when you add support :)

sweet poker app!  hopefully a lot of people play and it becomes popular!

added to the complete bitcoin gambling list!

http://www.bitcointrading.com/forum/index.php?topic=260.0

there are few free chips for the firsts players?  ;D

There are pop-ups which describes problems everytime I touch anything into the hall.

Thank you for your comment and posting on bitcointrading.

ildubbioso:

You stated two things:

1) there are few free chips for the firsts players? 

    What do you mean to few free chips?

Answer:
  A) We give you 1000 free credits to play on, up to 3000 every three hours, and they are automatically added to your account when your balace + inplay drops below 100 free credits.  If you use up the 3000 within three hours up must wait 1 hour before another 1000 credits become available.  No need to go find a cashier button to add credits, everything is done for you.

  B) If you are talking about bitcoin, we offer a 4 mBTC per FREEROLL SNG, and they start the moment 4 players are in.  The only catch to this FREEROLL is that you can only play in one at a time to keep it fair.  NO multi tabling in the FREEROLL.

2) There are pop-ups which describes problems everytime I touch anything into the hall.

  A) What pop-ups are you talking about?  I have yet to see a pop-up on our lobby after testing for an hour this AM.
  B) If you are experiencing problems with the software we like to know.  We did announce that this is BETA software and input and/or suggestions are welcome and expected from players.  Please give us a little time to fix issues that arise, and once we do we will release an update which again is automatic.

I hope this addresses your issues.
PM Poker

Yep sorry, I meant BTC.


I don't know if they are called pop-up. However:

everytime I click on a table I receive pop-ups like that:

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/1159/pmpoker1.png.


And when I click on the Bitcoin button I receive this pop-up:


http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6036/pmpoker2.png


This is really problematic because I cannot close it, if I try it reappears. I have to close the program with Ctrl-Alt-Canc

ildubbioso:

By the looks, you are running Windows 7 is this true?  If you are running under something different could you let me know.

Again, I have tried on our systems here, and we are not able to reproduce this behavior.

Thank you for the screen shot.

PMPoker

Also if you could email directly, I might be able to help you faster.

Yes, it's Windows 7


Have you entered as a Guest?


I am not really interested, I can write here.

Yes I tried Guest mode.

One more are you Windows 7 64-bit or 32-bit?

64-bit

ildubbioso:

Is this reproducable everytime?

Again the reason I am asking is I have tested this on XP, Vista, Windows 7 32 & 64 and can not find anything giving me the errors.

So if it can be reproduced, and you tell me the steps so I can try to get it to fail.

Thanks,
PM Poker

I like poker

Well I simply enter as a guest, then I just click and the messages appear. My PC doesn't have problems with other programs.

PM Poker site is a no show. Any developments on if or when it will return?

We just released a new update to PM Poker, which we are now testing RING Games.

Also there are now three (3) FREEROLL Tables for 10 mBTC in the SNG Room, these are Winner Take All tables.
Texas Hold'em
Omaha
Omaha Hi/Lo

Also we now have a lobby chat so please fell free to talk to anyone in the lobby, and a representative for PM Poker will be there as often as possible.

I just signed up, then closed the program immediately, opened it again, and tried to log in.  It told me my password was incorrect.

I tried clicking the "Need help with my user name or password?" link, but nothing happened.

I'm using WINE in Linux to run the program.

Do you have a maximum password length?  The password I used is 32 characters long and contains both a dash and an underline ('-' and '_').  My username is 'dooglus'.

I just tried logging in with just the first 31 characters of my password, then the first 30, etc.

It didn't help.

I tried that.  It seems like the site is dead.  I hung around in the lobby for half an hour and other than me not a single person spoke.

I tried also, site has no players on it.

dooglus:

We have a limit of 64 character passwords, but the issue was not you.  We found the error in the software and will be resolved on your next update.

I do apologize that nobody was there to answer your questions. 
We are working on having a representative in the lobby chat as often as possible, but we are still in the growing stages. 
Again I am extremely sorry that your needs where not met, and we will do our best to improve on this issue.

When I run it on Ubuntu using wine, every time I click something I get a message saying ".256 is not a float"
Several of them, just the number changes.

Can you run the software with a -debug option.
There will be a MemoForm at the bottom of the screen and I maybe I can see what message is causing this problem.
We are still unable to reproduce this error in our QA

I ran PM Poker again.  It did an update.  Then it showed this screen:

https://i.imgur.com/Q3XNi.png

I didn't type that long username - that's what it defaulted to.

Is that my new username?  Or should I change it back to 'dooglus'?

Interesting.  I'm using WINE (1.4-0ubuntu4.1) in Ubuntu (12.04, 64 bit) and don't have that issue.

What version of WINE and Ubuntu are you using?

I left my username as it was, and typed in my password.

It told me to 'contact support', but didn't tell me how.  There's no information on the website that I could see about how to 'contact support'.

https://i.imgur.com/7f0lO.png

Retype your user name.

When reading from registry, I change the size so getting bogus characters, sorry.

That worked, thanks.  Actually I just deleted the junk from the end of my name rather than retyping it.

Exactly the same versions as you. Wine and Ubuntu.
Also, the first time I opened it I had to terminate my session and login again as the window decoration disappeared, from all windows.

When I go to the poker table where it shows 2 players, I sit down but I am only person at table.  Table says start as soon as possible, but game never start :(

Every time a new gambling site starts to take bitcoins, an angel gets its wings.  :)

evanesce:

Just to let you know this was an error on our part, we had guest players that left and your system did not remove them.
We are currently working on this issue.  Please know that it just has one player in now which is your player.

Do you mean it wasn't an error on his part, but on yours?

I just connected - it downloaded and installed updates - and told me it has "player count: 2".  But I see 3 at a table, see below:

https://i.imgur.com/MnN93.png

Are you not including guests in your player count perhaps?

Also, is it expected behaviour for the lobby window to freeze as soon as I open a table window?  That's what seems to happen every time I open a table; the lobby becomes completely unresponsive, so I can't open a 2nd table, or chat in the lobby chat.

Could just be a problem with WINE of course.

dooglus:

Darn typos, yes it was our error and I fixed the post.

When you join a table the lobby screen does minimize.  This is the standard behavior in most software.

The freezing part is not, unless the drawing of the screen is just being slow and it looks like it’s there when not.
I will have to do more testing in WINE.

We just completed fixing issues from last week. 
I deeply regret that these fixes took us a little over a week. 

Please come play and test with us again.

I have two small issues with the box that pops up while updating:

https://i.imgur.com/FqsX5.png

The first time I saw it, my Internet was being slow, the progress number wasn't updating.  I'm not even sure if it said 0%, or if it was missing entirely.  I read the message as "Downloading update.  Completed, please wait...".  i.e. I thought it had already completed, when it really hadn't even started.  The capital 'C' on 'Completed' makes it look like a new sentence.

Also, I'd like to see the total size of the download, rather than just a percentage.  I pay by the megabyte for Internet traffic, so don't like to download updates of unknown sizes.

Oh, and I just signed in and the whole site appears to be empty.  Player count: 1 - and I guess that includes me.

dooglus:

I now include the size of the update on the screen to help you.  NOTE: this will happen after your next update.

Also the fozen game is fixed and your account has been credited.

I downloaded the software, installed, created an account, logged in and got this error message when I clicked around in the lobby.

http://i48.tinypic.com/35hmwiv.png

Running Win7 64bit.

Edit: I don't get the error message if I change region settings in Windows to "English (USA)".

This date issue has been fixed.

That was quick :)

PM Poker will credit 100 mBTC (0.1BTC)  to players by becoming our follower on Twitter or for liking us on Facebook – or earn 150 mBTC (0.15BTC) for doing both.  Twitter and Facebook icons are located in the PM Poker Lobby.

You must post your player name in a tweet or share on facebook to receive your bonus.  Please allow up to 24 hours for credit.

Please note: Only one bonus per user; per person. PM Poker reserves the right without explanation, to deny bonus credit to any user.

NEW Release

PM Poker is now offering tournaments:

FREEROLL every 2 hours with a guarantee payout of 200 mBTC (0.2BTC) - Pays 4 spots

• 1st - 100 mBTC
• 2nd -  50 mBTC
• 3rd -  25 mBTC
• 4th -  25 mBTC

25 mBTC every 2 hours - Opposite of the FREEROLL
200 mBTC every 3 hours

We also offer a 10 player Sit-n-Go FREEROLL that pays 10 mBTC to the winner.
(NOTE: you can only play one FREEROLL at a time in SNG)

PM Poker maybe small today, but we are here to stay.

5000 mBTC (5BTC) Guarantee FREEROLL

PM Poker would like to invite everyone to your 5000 mBTC FREEROLL on October 26, 2012 Midnight UTC (October 25, 2012 8pm EDT).

We are the only site to offer True Vegas Style Poker.

Once you play, you will stay.

Great news! You guys have an excellent poker client. I look forward to partaking in the action. Keep up the good work!

This guy is awesome, sealswithclubs is slowly going down, the admin has turned into a asshole and let his fame on the internet go to his head, whether this guy does the same thing, i don't know, but he is really putting effort into this, not just buying some shitty rigged software, he put alot in and i hope he gets alot out. Is it perfect? no, but it can only get better, right? no? yes.

That seems unfair.  I've seen nothing but good from freemoney, and seals is a good poker site.  It's good to see pmpoker starting to put up some competition but I think it's fair to say the software has some way to go before it's as nice to play as the sealswithclubs software.  (And that's still miles behind the big companies' clients).

You are funny, Marker88

PM Poker is BETA software, and yes still has issues with some messages going to the client.  All we ask for is understanding, when playing errors might happen, and when a problem arises we are on it as much as humanly possible.

This is not our first rodeo; we have been down this road before, with a stable and working bingo client on the web for 10+ years.

Our people believe in our software and hope it will compete with the big boys someday.  We do many things right, where it seems the other just do not care.

PM Poker let player view and play our software without registration as a guest (does any software do this).

We have always focused on customer needs, and even though Bitcoin is not the easiest thing to work with, we have automated the deposit and withdrawals the best that we can, with absolutely no limitations.

Poker sites are a dime a dozen, and tough to get started.  It appears that maybe at least we have found first gear, and appreciate the pros and cons about the software.

PM Poker goal is to make your poker experience enjoyable.

Hrm. I can't even get th eclient to connect. keeps saying connection errors, and after a couple tries it just tells me to click so it can close the client..

Win7-64bit...

This is a little harsh. SWC is not bad, and the admin was very cool and understanding with a problem i had...  now, the players, on the other hand. There are some real assholes at the tables. from spammers, to racist pieces of shit, to really offensive scumbags...

tldr: pmpoker doesn't want to work with wine, but it used to

I don't know what's going on today, but I'm unable to play pmpoker at all.  I get all kinds of error dialogs popping up which stop me from being able to play.  Earlier today I was getting this:

https://i.imgur.com/blerJ.png

followed by an awful lot of beeping.  It was as if my actions (fold, raise, etc) were being ignored and the beeping was trying to get me to act, when I had already acted, and the buttons to act with has already disappeared.

I signed up for 3 tournaments this morning, and couldn't play in any of them for more than a few hands before the problems started.  I did manage to win 25 mBTC in each of them though by coming 3rd or 4th without winning a hand.  There are few enough players that you can get in the money without playing at the moment - so it's worth signing up just for that!

This afternoon I just tried again, and now I'm getting different errors:

https://i.imgur.com/y55XO.png

https://i.imgur.com/w3stA.png

https://i.imgur.com/hTIRV.png

These error boxes appear faster than I can close them, making play impossible.

I run Ubuntu Linux, and use WINE to run pmpoker, since there doesn't seem to be a Linux client available for it.  This has worked flawlessly until yesterday (well, as flawlessly as on Windows, I expect - I've had small issues with it, but nothing like this).  I updated Ubuntu from version 12.04 to 12.10 yesterday, so that may be the root cause of the problem.  The new Ubuntu may have a different version of WINE.

I just checked.  Here are the versions I've installed:

2012-07-23 18:00:47 status installed wine 1.4-0ubuntu4
2012-07-26 15:25:17 status installed wine 1.4-0ubuntu4.1
2012-10-22 19:40:56 status installed wine:amd64 1.4.1-0ubuntu1

So it went from 1.4.0 to 1.4.1 with the new Ubuntu yesterday.

I'll try deleting my ~/.wine folder and reinstalling pmpoker from scratch.

Hmm. So, I'm not the only one with Wine problems?

I installed Wine on Fedora today. To be clear, I've never used Wine before. I tried opening PM Poker and it would make it as far as the log in screen, where it asks me whether I want to log in as guest or as a real user. Then I clicked guest and that was it. Nothing else loaded. I assumed Wine was just junk and so I uninstalled Wine. Maybe I shouldn't be so quick to judge Wine if it's actually PM Poker software. Although I am worried about getting malware through Wine. Can anybody alleviate my fears about malware through Wine?

I did that.  I re-downloaded the .exe file from the pmpoker website and ran it in WINE after deleting my .wine folder (where the Windows C: drive is stored, etc).  After installing, pmpoker downloaded over 5MB of "updates", which is bigger than the installer itself.  But that's a separate issue.

Once it had updated, it let me type my username and password, and then went crazy, flashing up error boxes quickly.  I moved some of them around so you can see a few of them:

https://i.imgur.com/aGutP.png

I wonder if I can go back to the previous version of WINE somehow...

I've had good success with WINE in the past.  Some programs work 100% fine with it, and some don't work at all.  What's weird is that pmpoker worked great in WINE until yesterday...  I guess I should try something else that I know used to work great in WINE and see how that works now.  It that's messed up too then I should stop posting here, since it's clearly a WINE issue.

The thing is, I expect lots of people with Bitcoins don't use Windows.  Windows is notorious for being targeted by viruses and other malware, so it makes sense to avoid it and use something more secure if you're going to be dealing with Bitcoins.  I'm not sure a Windows-only Bitcoin poker site is going to fly at the moment.

I'm no expert on malware, but I would expect it's less likely to be able to thrive in a WINE environment than on a real Windows box.  Specially crafted programs could probably cause you some trouble though.  I believe programs running in WINE can see your whole filesystem, not just your ~/.wine.

Yeah, I tried to get the developer of PM Poker, and other Bitcoin poker sites, to create Linux installations. Windows is such F'ing trash I really don't know why anybody caters to it anymore, especially if your target clientele are Bitcoin users. Oh well. Going to have to wait this one out, I guess.

I just installed PokerStars from an old .exe I had lying around.  I ran the .exe in WINE, it told me there was a newer version available, offered to download it, downloaded it, installed it, let me log in, and everything looks fine:

https://i.imgur.com/Snp8R.png

So WINE still works for me like it used to, except not with pmpoker.

I hope somebody makes an HTML5 poker site some day, using the same kind of technology as http://bitzino.com/ uses.  Those guys know how to make a gambling site that works for everyone.  No need for Windows, Flash, etc.  Just use your browser, and it just works.

You're not going to believe this, but I just shut down Linux and booted into Windows 7.  My laptop came with Windows 7, but I've never used it before other than for 5 minutes to see what it looked like.

I went to pmpoker.com and downloaded the .exe installer again, and ran it.  I logged in to my dooglus account, and everything happened the same as in WINE.  First I got an access violation error, then a bunch of bigger messages with JSON in them.

Here's a screenshot:

https://i.imgur.com/ofFne.png

Note the bog standard ACER wallpaper - it's a real OEM Windows 7 install that came pre-installed on the laptop because I was too lazy to try to find a "No OS" laptop this time.

So maybe the issue is with my pmpoker account, but it's definitely NOT with WINE!

I'm getting the same thing dooglus is getting.

Google Chrome
Windows 7 32 Home

PS - omg, dooglus. I'm jelly. I miss PokerStars soooo much

Sorry, I was being inconsiderate.  I forgot about the whole "no US players on Stars" thing.

Did you ever use WINE to play pmpoker?  I'm wondering if that somehow messes up our accounts, stopping them even from working from Windows.

My Windows 7 is 64 bit Home Premium I think.  It says "Home Premium" when it boots, and it's a 64 bit processor, so I'm assuming they put the 64 bit version on.

dooglus - I don't even know what "WINE" is, so I think no.

Got the crazy pop ups again today. Same as dooglus has described - error messages popping up faster than I could close them. Had to exit (end task in task manager) the client and log back on. When i did, everything seemed ok.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/schweinhaxe4/emot/58_100_117_110_110_111_58.gif

I signed up for the 11am freeroll at my house, then took my laptop to the neighbour's house at around 10:55am and got back online.  I had left pmpoker running, but when I got back online it didn't seem to notice.  The player list showed me as the most recent sign-up even though others had signed up after me.  I tried clicking around all over the client, but nothing seemed to make it check whether there was an Internet connection or not.  Previously, it's woken up and noticed it was disconnected when I click around.

I closed pmpoker and started it again.

It came up and logged me in (no updates to apply), then showed 1 or 2 error boxes (I think about memory violation errors, or whatever it's called when you deference an invalid pointer) but after that worked pretty much flawlessly.

I saw only one thing that looked like a bug.  A couple of players showed their hold'em hole cards.  One guy had only 1 card, and the other had 4.  I don't know if he was keeping some up his sleeve, or what was going on, but it looks suspicious.  ;)  The 2 popups in the top right are IM alerts from a different program.  I blurred their content.

https://i.imgur.com/RlwAJ.png

Overall the game ran much more smoothly than I've seen it before.  It was fast and smooth and almost bug-free!  A vast improvement on yesterday at any rate.

Just as the next tournament started, I got a bunch more errors - notice the last one, which seems to indicate a coding error.  0x60 isn't a valid address to be trying to write to, so it looks like a pointer got corrupted:

https://i.imgur.com/1VKw4.png

I've seen similar messages on Windows (I'm back in Linux now, using WINE).

I killed pmpoker and restarted it.  I have it set to auto-login, remembering my password for me.

While the splash screen was still up, and before any other GUI showed up, I started getting errors, starting with the 'access violation' you see in the bottom right corner.  It seems to always be trying to write to address 0x60, which may be significant:

https://i.imgur.com/Vn7n1.png

I killed it and tried again, and got much the same result:

https://i.imgur.com/LjAcT.png

However, I then found a workaround for the bug.

If I'm very quick, and click 'ok' to the access violation error box before all the JSON error boxes start appearing, then the table I'm sat at appears, and no other errors show up.

It's as if the access violation error box is blocking the table window from opening, which is leading to the players table not being initialised, and so none of the messages trying to update the table work.  Maybe.  I'm guessing with very little to go on of course.  But anyway, I'm able to play again now, by clicking 'ok' very quickly to the first error box.

I get those too, on win7 x64 and win8 x64 preview. Hope this can be patched up, I really like it otherwise.

Exactly the same (and solution) I got 2x in 2 sessions out of three, so relatively often



I though it was a bug too and in fact it shows everytime when level 5 starts. It is a game to distribute odd chips that will be not in play anymore, like in offline poker tournaments. But it is so quick and uncommon for online pokerroom, it looks like a bug. It also explains why we cant bet odd chip amount as we are used from online pokerrooms  :D

Oh, yes.  I meant to post about that myself.  Steve from PM Poker called me and we talked about the bugs I was seeing, including this one.  It turns out that this isn't a bug at all, but is how odd chips are fairly shared out when the blind levels go up.  I hadn't even noticed that it's written right across the table: "coloring up $5 chips"...

Apparently this is common in real life poker tournaments, and PM Poker is aiming to be as close to real poker as possible.  Hence disallowing 'silly' bet amounts, sometimes dealing a hand with no small blind (when the person who would have played small blind was just knocked out), etc.  The website will hopefully list these differences when it's unveiled (soon, I'm told) so that those of us who only really know online poker will know what to expect at PM Poker.

Here's another example of "coloring up", involving 8 players:

https://i.imgur.com/EbVrJ.png

What the?! You could see my hole cards? So that's how you beat me when we were heads up.  :D

EDIT: When chips are colored up (the small denomination chips are converted/consolidated into higher denomination chips - a different color, hence the term, 'coloring up' as the blinds increase to bigger whole round numbers) there is a high card draw for the extra chip. And for each extra $5 chip you have at this point, that’s how many cards you get for the high card drawing for that $25 chip. In the image above, one of d3bil’s Jack(his highest card) beat my 5, so he gets the $25 chip. Once all the $5 chips have been consolidated into $25 chips, all the $5 chips are removed from the tournament.

Why they would need to do this in online poker, I don’t know. This is done in live poker tournaments so that there aren't a million small denomination chips towards the end of the tourney.

I think the aim is to make the game as much like 'real poker' as possible.  In real poker you can't make a bet of 1999 chips when the blinds are 100/200, so you can't in PM Poker either.

I meant to post this link earlier: http://casinosmack.com/blog/how-to-color-up-chips-correctly-in-poker-chip-race-round-up-and-rounding/ for people (like myself) who didn't hear about "coloring up" before...

And I think the reason I beat you heads up was because you folded every time I bluffed, and called every time I didn't...  Just unlucky I guess.

I think the 'access violation' error happens at the start of each tournament.  Perhaps every time the client tries to open a table for me.  I left the client running after the 1pm game ended.  At 3pm I saw the error dialog pop up, but I was typing at the time, and as soon as I hit the spacebar the error dialog disappeared.  Then the table opened, and I could play normally.

This is quite different to the 1pm game where the dialog popped up, but I didn't dismiss it in time, and then was met by hundreds of error boxes telling me about JSON errors, or some such.

So I need to be quick to dismiss the "can't write to 0x60" box as soon as it appears at the start of each tournament.

Ahhh, so you zigged when I thought you zagged and zagged when I thought you zigged. I'm on to you now.   ;)

Here's a new issue...  I noticed my laptop was running very hot.  When I run 'top' to see what's causing it, I see PMPoker.exe using the whole of one of my CPU cores.

In the following screenshot, it's my turn to act, so it really shouldn't be doing much more than waiting for me to click something, but it's running the laptop flat out.  It happens the whole time I'm playing (but not when I'm not at a table), no matter whose turn it is.  It's too hot in here already, and I could do without the laptop heating up and making annoying fan sounds while I play.  Also, I'm running off solar power, and it's winter, so there's not really enough power to waste on whatever the poker client thinks it's doing.

Is this a WINE issue, or does the client use the whole of one CPU core on Windows too?

https://i.imgur.com/9YIZL.png

I noticed there are left and right arrows in the top right corner of the chat box's title bar.  I couldn't figure out what they're for.  I guessed maybe it's for moving through the tabs.  But there's only one tab.  Could it be that you can private-message people, and have a tab for each?

I tried clicking people's names in the chat, hoping to get a context menu, "pm this person" or something.

All it did was move the text cursor in the chat box, so that future messages didn't appear at the end, making a mess:

https://i.imgur.com/Op8f7.png

I just bought in for the 7PM(eastern) 25mBTC tourney. Anybody want to join me?

BTW, great job on putting up QR codes for deposits. It makes it a lot easier.

I have the same behaviour in WinXP SP3, it uses 80-100% of one of the 2 cores all time (Intel Atom 1.6 GHz) thus 40-50% in task manager when at table.

I think PMPoker needs more players.  I shouldn't be able to win every time.  ;)

https://i.imgur.com/S7cAv.png

https://i.imgur.com/Grmrx.png

https://i.imgur.com/qn4mn.png

I'm glad to see the software behaving itself for the most part.

Actually you're right.  I hadn't noticed it eating CPU when I wasn't at a table, but it does:

https://i.imgur.com/DG23O.png

It's not as bad as when I am at a table, but it's still too much.  Using over 50% of a modern CPU core just for sitting in a poker lobby isn't really reasonable.

I think you need the concept of 'sitting out'.

There's someone at a ring game at the moment who is online, but obviously away from their computer.  I can keep raising, and they keep folding, over and over.

It's only a play money game, but it doesn't seem fair that they're not 'sat out' when they fail to act in time.

What would happen at a real poker ring game if I fell asleep at the table?  Would my blinds be taken from me while I slept until my stack was gone?

UPDATE

We did an upgrade this evening to fix most of the errors that where popping up.  This is not a promise that others won’t occur.

Thanks to all for your time and concideration.

I saw the update - it applied automatically when I restarted the client.  And I've not seen any error dialogs since.  So whatever you changed seems to have fixed things for me.

Thanks!

any plans for a os x native client?

Friendly suggestion/request:

In a freeroll, anyone that has been sitting out/offline/disconnected and misses X number of hands in a row, should be automatically eliminated/pulled.

Has anyone confirmed whether or not PM Poker is now working flawlessly with Wine? If so, I'll consider reinstalling it.

Houston, we have a problem...

During the 9pm FR, client closed down. When trying to reconnect I get this:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/schweinhaxe4/hwhap.jpg

Windows 7 32 Home
Not using WINE

EDIT: Are you down for maintenance or updates perhaps?

EDIT2: Working for me now

^ Indeed

Also, the Fold sound, can that be changed to something less harsh ? Still seeing same error popups and complete crashes when starting a new window

When I check option "No game sounds" under Option/General preferences and Close the option tab, it never remember this option checked

Hello:

1) Corsby sounds are a diffecult to make anyone happy, I have no clue what type of sound a FOLD should make.

2) I will check on it not rememering the No Game Sound, this might have just been a simple oversight.

I have the same issue with it crashing with a flood of exceptions as others have reported, both using Crossover for the Mac (a WINE frontend) and plain old WINE on Peppermint Ice Linux.

However, I also have an unusual condition under Linux, which is that the program boots up, shows the splash screen, and then, if I am at a table, I hear the sounds and so on, but the window is completely invisible.

This might be unique enough to me that it's not worth checking.  It's odd, though.

Also, under OS X, I have difficulty resizing the window to get to the chat input, because the dock is in the way of the bottom of the screen.  I doubt you can do anything about that and the problem there is probably fixable from my end.  The only thing I could see is maybe the default table window size should be a bit smaller.

If you're not going to allow table resizing yet, then I think you should at least use a table size that will fit on a standard netbook screen.  I think there's a defined standard for the screen resolution of netbooks, and I expect it's smaller than the pmpoker table size.

My girlfriend only ever uses a netbook.  She tried playing pmpoker a couple of days ago but couldn't get as far as seeing a table due to other problems, so I don't know yet whether she would be able to see enough of the table to play.

Edit: I just checked.  Her screen is 1024x600 pixels.  Your tables are 800x600 not including the chat at the bottom.  The chat is a extra 146 pixels tall.  So she would be able to play, but not see any of the chat.

The Freeroll is frozen on the Final Table right now...

Hello? Beuhler... Beuhler?

Been stuck like this for the last 10 minutes or so and counting...

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/schweinhaxe4/stuck.jpg

I decided to reinstall Wine just to see if I could get PM Poker working, but I'm having the same problem I did before. After I type in my username and password and click login, the screen disappears and nothing else returns.

UPDATE

OFFLINE Players in the MTT and SNG will now be folded at the time of the last card dealt.  This is the same as most live tournaments where your cards are muck if not in your seat at the time of the last card out.

Rule change for FREEROLL MTT, you must be online at the start of the FREEROLL.  If you are offline you will not be seated.  This only applies to FREEROLLS

As requested we added to 6 player SNG games.

Most of the errors that where happening because of moving player or table collapse should be fixed.

Thanks for the update.  It's good to see you posting here more frequently recently.  I think this is a good place to keep players updated about changes and fixes to the pmpoker software.

I should be back home tomorrow and back at the poker tables.  :)

Thank You!

No more of 3 players staring at each other for an hour while the other 7 absentees slowly blind away. Hooray!

Good to see the site working out the bugs and growing with traffic. Looking forward to when the ring games can get going.

Ok, so it’s pretty obvious people are signing up for the freerolls and are just being afk because the blind structure allows them to finish in the money without even playing a hand.

Can we have these angle-shooters eliminated after being afk for X number of hands in a row, like after five or six hands in row of not acting they get eliminated. Not only does it slow the game down unnecessarily, it’s really killing the game for those who are actually trying to play and have fun.

Thanks.

I signed up for the 7pm and 9pm games.  I got knocked out in the first hand of the 7pm so waited 2 hours for the 9pm.  I kept checking the clock as it approached 9pm.  At 9:02pm I noticed it had gone 9pm and the table hadn't opened.  I could still click around the client to see who was registered in the various games.

I noticed I hadn't registered for the 11pm, so I clicked 'buy in' and the client then told me I was disconnected and reconnected me.  By then I had been removed from the 9pm game for being "offline" I guess.

I was online all the time.  The client should notice if it thinks I am disconnected and reconnect me.  It shouldn't be the player's responsibility to babysit it to avoid being thrown out of games they've registered for.  This was only a freeroll, but it would suck if players pay to register for a game and then get removed because the client doesn't reconnect automatically when it disconnects from the server.

Not just that, but they aren't even sat out of the game, so we have to wait for them to time out every hand, sometimes multiple times per hand (if they're in the big blind position and nobody bets).

We did have a server crash befor the 5pm PDT tournament and when we came back up that tournament was cancelled.
As to regards of the disconnection, the software should be picking that up, I will check into this more.

I'm using PDT times, and wasn't online at pmpoker until after 5pm.  The game I signed up for was definitely playing after the client reconnected me - I just wasn't in it any more.

I've noticed before that the client no longer auto-reconnects me when I disconnect.

I remember a week or two ago it was very diligent about reconnecting me, and would eventually give an error like "too many disconnections" and just quit (my Internet connection isn't great here - it goes up and down, so auto-reconnection is a must for me) but I've not seen that recently.  It now seems I have to do something like register for a new tournament before it even realises I'm disconnected.  I guess when I'm looking through the lists of players registered for tournaments it's using old cached lists, and not realising for some reason that I'm disconnected.

Was in a tourney when the site crashed. Anyone else having problems connecting right now? Am I being blinded off? Beuhler?

Any news re. having the client automatically reconnect after disconnection?

Good day all :)

Does this use the gpu ?

Thx

2 BTC guarantee at 12:30 AM tonight, eastern time. 200 mBTC buy in. I'll be there!

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All Bitcoin tournaments have a one full table guarantee payout.  Please try them out.

Notice about Fees

Buyin amount for SNG and MTT is the total cost of the tournament, and have the fee built in.
All game with a buyin of 500 mBTC or less have a 8% take.

All SNG Heads-Up will now have a 5% take.

Bounty Game Interest

Was thinking of having a daily Bounty Tournament for 500 mBTC (125 mBTC Bounty), any interest in a bounty tournament?

Game "froze" during the 2-hour freeroll (still is frozen even as I post this) when three afk's were forced to go all-in by themselves with no seated players calling. The board was dealt, but apparently the dealer didn't know who to ship the pot to since none of the afk's had any cards and no one who was present was in the hand at that point.

The rest of us present are/were just lolwut? So yeah, looks like we found a another bug.

That's a nice bug.  Make a rule that players who aren't present aren't allowed to win any pots, then have a hand where all the players are away.  The code loops around the table skipping the away players trying to find a regular player to give the pot to. :)

When you create a bug, it should be a good one.

They're usually fun to hunt down, but they're not all as cute as this one.  :)

My girlfriend tried playing a pmpoker tournament this morning.  She got the 5 MB update automatically, but when the game started she saw hundreds of error messages, just like I used to.  She tried restarting the client several times, but kept getting the error messages.  The ones about being unable to update SQL tables, with JSON debug strings.

I'm waiting for a tournament to start at the moment.  The client is just sitting there doing nothing, but it's still using 25% of my CPU.  That's not really acceptable for an idle process.  What's it doing with all that CPU?

The tournament started.  It was noisy.  I clicked 'no sounds' in the bottom left of the table.  It went quiet.  I made it to the final table and it got noisy again.  The 'no sounds' thing was still turned on.  I tried turning it off and on again, but it didn't help immediately.  But eventually I managed somehow to get it to shut up again.

Even when "no sounds" is turned on (and why have a toggle with 'no' in its name?  Why not just call it 'sounds' instead, dropping the negative?) there are still sounds if you're slow to act.

Speaking of sounds, the sounds for normal play are so obnoxious you have to choose no sounds. Normally I like sounds that go with play, but not on PM Poker. Those need to be fixed.

I was away for a while, and before going away I withdrew my balance.

Today I won a tournament, winning 100 mBTC.

That's all I've played since emptying my account, but:

https://i.imgur.com/li0Py.png

I have 106 mBTC.

Where did the 6 come from?  Is there any way to see a statement of my winnings and losings?  Or only of deposits and withdrawals?  If not, such a feature would be useful.  Something like this:

23-apr-11 12:30am buy-in 0.02/0.04 ring game 1.2 btc
23-apr-11 12:45am cash-out 0.02/0.04 ring game 1.5 btc
23-apr-11 3:34pm buy-in tournament 1+0.1 btc
23-apr-11 5:30pm place #2/8 in tournament: win 2.50 btc
05-nov-11 5:45pm bank error in your favour, collect 0.006 btc

Oh, and how about remembering my receiving address from last time?  Keeping the last few I used, and showing them when I click in the empty box, or when I type the initial '1' of the address, show the ones that match.  Then I don't have to keep looking it up in the bitcoin client.

My theory/possible explanation for this 6mbtc:

You played the one tourney you won, but maybe you reg'ed for another one which you subsequently weren't present for. You were then afk/offline for this freeroll, but still finished in 4th place along with three other afks/onlines.

Each of you split 4th place prize money of 25mbtc, giving each of you 6mbtc.

I've seen it happen a number of times. Sometimes two or three or four afk/offlines finish in the money with the same stack size going in to their all-in hand and all lose in a tie for whatever that money spot is and split the prize evenly.

That's probably what happened.  Now that offline people are forced to put in the big blind every hand, they'll tend to go out at the same time.

I'm having a new problem today.  The game runs fine so long as I keep typing in the chat box.  If I stop talking, the game freezes after about 30 seconds.  I can wait 5 minutes and not see any new cards, or any new action.  If I then type a message and hit return I hear a very rapid sequence of actions, as all the hands over the last 5 minutes get played out super fast, and then everything's back to normal, until I stop typing again.

Very odd, and I've never seen it before.  The software didn't update since yesterday, I don't think.  So I've no idea why it's acting differently today.

Any work being done to make pm poker compatible with Wine? I still can't get in.

It works for me in WINE, mostly.  I found that deleting my ~/.wine/ folder and reinstalling helped.  Note that such an action will uninstall anything you've installed using WINE, along with all the settings.

I played a couple of days ago and it worked except that both times I got into a big hand an error message popped up and then the client completely crashed.  In both instances I restarted it instantly, but by the time I got back in, my hand had been folded.

There needs to be some kind of automatic disconnect time-bank that will give me time to restart the client when it crashes without folding my hand.  I understand that we don't want to be giving "disconnected" players their full time-to-act every turn, but for players who are really playing and occasionally get disconnected some kind of allowance should be made.

I found a new (to me) bug yesterday.  I was knocked out of a tournament, and clicked 'leave' to leave the table after I had lost.  A fraction of a second after the window closed I saw a pop-up error message saying that the poker table couldn't be found.  I assume the server was trying to update the table I had just left, but the client had already closed the table.  I dismissed the error message, and the client shut down, rather than taking me to the lobby.

There are still far too many little bugs and annoyances at PMPoker for me to consider playing regularly.  If the bugs people reported were fixed, or even acknowledged it would be different, but for now I'm going to have to leave the site alone.

Mr. PMPoker, please post here when you've fixed enough of the little bugs that you think it's worth people trying the site again.

Thanks.  :)

UPDATE

Freeroll has been reduce to 80 mBTC every two hours.

We had to reduce this because of amount of funds leaving site and not play over.

I have been withdrawing anything I won immediately, but would leave it onsite and play with it if:

1) the software was more reliable and didn't keep crashing and
2) there were any real-money games being played

Maybe offering games where money is added to the pot, or games where there's a guaranteed minimum prize pool, but you have to pay to play would help with 2).  SealsWithClubs has a good system, where they have a 50 mBTC freeroll each hour, and a 50 mBTC-to-play game every half hour, with a 400 mBTC guarantee (or something like that).  So winning the freeroll immediately bankrolls you to play the half-hour game.

I don't know what to suggest about 1) though.  Maybe it would be worth hiring someone to take a look at the software and why it's still so unstable.

Any chance an android app could be made that allows easy access to these games?

These three tables are currently locked up/frozen:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/schweinhaxe4/lu.jpg

No one plays here anymore? I registered and join the free 10m BTC sng, but no one joined in 20 minutes.

The free roll tournaments have been down for about 2 weeks so the site is pretty dead.

We’re pleased to announce that PM Poker (pmpoker.com (http://pmpoker.com)) is back online!  PM Poker is much more stable now, and we’re confident that any future issues will be resolved swiftly. Our apologies for the delay, and we sincerely believe you’ll be pleased with our latest release.

Primary fixes include:

• 100% CPU Usage when running.
• Games freezing.
• Unable to scroll through waiting list or Rooms in lobby.

Features Added:

• Added Emergency Bitcoin address, should we ever go down again, to credit back.
• Balances still in milliBit (mBTC), however there are now 2 decimal places.
• Seating Preference option screen.

We now offer Texas Hold’em, Omaha and Omaha Hi/Lo in all lobbies.

Ring Games:

• Auto reloading (Options)
• Beginner Texas Hold’em Game with Fix Limit and No Check Raise (NCR)
• Rakes (5%) are in minimum chip unit on table.  
  • Example: 0.25 / 0.50 game: The smallest unit is 0.25, so rakes are in 0.25 units only.  
    No rake would be taken if pot is less than 5.00 mBTC,
• All games offer only true poker wagering, thus you can only wager in units at the table.  
  • Example: 0.25 / 0.50 game: You could not wager 1.66.  Your wager would be either 1.50 or 1.75, because the chip unit at the table is 0.25.

Tournaments:

• Sit –N- Go (SNG)  
  • We now offer games on all table sizes (Heads-Up (2 Player), 4, 6, 8, and 10 Player tables)
  • We offer Bounty Games on 10 player tables. (Bounty is 20% of buyin).
• Multi-Table (MTT)
  • 5 mBTC Rebuy tournament, Auto Rebuy (Options)
  • 50 mBTC (50% Bounty)
  • Every hour @ 15 minutes pass the hour (15 mBTC buyin) .
• Extra Information
  • Double Bounty on first person knocked out of tournament.
  • All tournaments will have Color-Up when a chip unit is no longer used.
  • All games are true poker wagering. (See Ring Games)
  • All tables have tournament information showing level time and payouts, along with other tournament data.

Cool im downloading and installing right now.

No web client available?

We do not have a web client, we are working on version for other OS

Just a reminder PM Poker is up and running, accepting bitcoins.

As always we have fast deposit/withdrawals.

We offer Texas Hold'em and both Omaha type games.

www.pmpoker.com (http://www.pmpoker.com)

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Happy New Year to all:

PM Poker will be doing everything possible to make your 2014 poker experience more enjoyable.

PM Poker would like to you try out our new 45 mBTC Guarantee re-buy tournament that starts every three hours, with a low buy-in of 1.50 mBTC.

Blinds start at:   5/10
12 minute levels and re-buys for the first hour.

I wish i had 1,45 mbtc  ::)

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PM Poker invites everyone to play our Freeroll. The first Freeroll Opens at 4:15am UTC, Jan 16th, followed by a new Freeroll every 3 hours.

5 mBTC Guaranteed with a 0.01 mBTC Bounty on everyone.

The first person knocked out of the tournament is worth double bounty.

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PLEASE NOTE: That you must be logged in at the start of the tournament to participate in the FREEROLL.  

Should have made a new thread all the bad rep from last year is going to hinder signups.

BitCoinPokerBro:

I appreciate your concern, and I agree that it might hinder signups, although our software is much improved.

The rep we got was from all the crashes, and we feel we have 99% of those issues resolved.

By keeping the same thread, it should show we are not afraid of the past, and are looking forward.  Of course there is the issue that this forum does not like you to create new threads.

Please come join us in our next FREEROLL.

We currently are offering a FREEROLL - Bounty tournament every three hours to test our site. 

Please come join us.

I LOVE PM POKER - true vegas style!

very awesome!!!

Does the freerolls still going on?

Cmon join the tournament in 1 minute it starts :)

yall still kick out players for being late to a tourney by a minute or two? i did not have a good experience and i dont think i will return.

I'm the only one playing in this poker room? I feel alone guys.

How much are the prizes in the freerolls? Are the software ok to download?

Nice News ! a new poker site !!^^ I will try it for fun !!! More freeroll is funny !!!
I wish you the best  guys, a lot of winnings hands ^^ and profit ^^
Good luck !

hi OPs
this site still running ?