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Sold 3 so far. See post below for pics.

Deciding to sell the rest of mine.

Single 5850 - 21 BTC shipped
9x9850 - 185 BTC shipped

They are in near perfect condition, in fact some have never even been mined on.

I will ship outside of the US if you will cover the costs.

Sold the first 2 to Benz. Deciding to sell my other 10 5850's.

250BTC for all 10 shipped.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/256830/BTC/10x/IMG_20120610_183821.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/256830/BTC/10x/IMG_20120610_183910.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/256830/BTC/10x/IMG_20120610_184433.jpg

I checked through USPS and the cost seemed very high. 60USD for shipping

Looks like this sale is closed.   Great value for the btc.

Benz is working on a loan for the 10, so the 10 are still up for grabs for 250BTC.

10, that may be low, as that is pretty much maxing out the weight for the flat rate box. It could end up being more.

first 2 sent to Benz

First 2 sold to Benz. 10 left. Not looking to part out, looking to sell all to one buyer. Benz is still working on getting the funds so this deal will disappear soon I just want to give everyone a fair chance at it.

Received.

Just a curious question that those more familiar with BTC transactions can probably answer.

http://blockchain.info/tx-index/8930499/cbb52f167e10c965778fa7df442a68b0e16bb83ca290596895d36eab63c93eb5

On that it shows another transaction for 1.58815017 BTC

What is that from? Is that just a totally separate transaction from this one? Why does it show up on the transaction ID?

You can't send a partial balance from an address, so if you have 21.588... in one address and 30BTC in another, to send 50BTC to someone you send the 50 to their address and the remaining 1.588... to yourself.

alright cool, this is the first time i've seen this.

Thanks.


The 10 are still up for grabs.

Yes, but that "over 100" is actually in several smaller chunks. Each chunk cannot be partially spent, they must be all completely spent. Let us say for example that you have 2 chunks - one with 25BTC in it, and another one with 38BTC. In order to send 50, you must combine them, however you have to spend all 63 BTC - but you only want to send 50, so you do 63 minus 50 equals 13, therefore 13BTC will be sent back to your wallet to a new address.

wait what? Are you kidding me?

The deal was for 2 @ 50. I shipped the day after you told me you wanted to buy. And you said you would pay 50 when I shipped. That happened.

What is the issue here?

I guess I will let others chime in on if they feel I handled this correctly but it isn't my fault that the market went up between when I shipped and you paid.

I feel that it's quite rude to try to ruin my reputation on this site. I shipped first and trusted you, and now you try to make me look bad.

Anyone else want to chime in on this?

I would have absolutely accepted 50, that was the agreed price.

A deal is a deal.

Benz, you're the one coming off as whining about the price change against you. When the deal was made, it was made for 50BTC. You can't change your deal after the fact because the market changed.

I feel that what I've done is completely fair and you saying that I should be "totally avoided" because I held the deal to the terms originally agreed upon is quite unfair. I really feel like I did nothing wrong here and you are trying to make me look bad here for no reason. I ask that you back down and stop trying to make me look bad because I didn't give you a discount because the market increased after we agreed to do the deal.

I will just say that he was fine to deal with during the transaction. No signs to attitude and now he takes it to the forums and throws a fit. He's a honest guy, I am sure he would be honest to anyone he deals with not sure why he singled me out on this one.

You didn't. He's trying to use your low post count and threaten to label you as a scammer to weasel a better deal for himself. As long as he gets his cards, I'd say you're fine!

If you send first, you risk the seller absconding with the payment with no item being sent. If you wait for him to ship first, you risk exchange fluctuations. Choose your risk, and stick with one of them. If you want to completely miss the point of Bitcoins, you could make an agreement based on a fiat price and do the conversion at the time of payment, but really? Who cares about $5-6 difference.

Stop reacting in such a hyperactive manner, and calm down.

Then why else would you be changing the *agreed upon* payment for an item AFTER the item has been shipped. To me, that sounds more shady.

BTC is in a upward trend.     Because we don't have long term historic records on price movements, it in my opinion is silly to call someone "shady" for asking for corrections and clarifications on prices for goods.  

What you are seeing here are real and classic hedging risks because people want BTC and only use USD to figure out the relative value is for each transaction.  I think it is beautiful that people are learning how to operate in these complex yet simple environments.  

Both of you should just make up.   I know because many of us are strangers and there are some scammers, we are quick to jump the gun, but we all need to just be a little more flexible so we can get deals done and realize that things are changing rapidly so don't be offended when people want to negotiate a little more.


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Dalkore

One more piece of clarity.

I didn't call you shady, I was saying that if I gave you the discount that would be shady. You are fine, I have no issues with you.


For those that care here is an excerpt from our IM chat earlier today.



You had no issue with it at the time. What changed?

I was nothing but nice through the entire transaction. It is disappointing to see such a thing cause someone to try to ruin my rep on this site.



My 10 are still up for sale,  I am willing to part them out, the prices will be 25BTC+shipping if you want to buy individual cards. PM me to discuss details.

jbob06 asked for other people to chime in. Stop blindly attacking me for not siding with you.

I am confused as to why it is unfair to stick to the original price, maybe I am misunderstanding you.

I don't see this as being unfair. The deal was for 50BTC, which is what was paid. I've been on the end of buying BTC back when it was 5.2 a couple months ago and then dropped down to 4.8 before I even received the goods, but that's one of the risks we take. In the future, if you want to pay a certain amount of USD for goods, it's probably just best to use USD or agree to an amount of BTC indexed to an exchange at a specific time.

This. I just bought a single from BFL 10 days ago when the price was 5.2. Now that it's ~5.9 should I ask them for a 15BTC refund? I mean they havn't shipped it yet...

Did anything in the original deal state "at $5.5"? You assumed that rate because it was sort of stable... Don't count on stability.

And the way you reacted to a potentially negative situation threw up all kinds of neon-red flags about you. One being that you are very unstable and are liable to go off your rocker at any time for any reason. Take it easy.

I have said nothing bad about you here. And you continue to call me a bitch, I have said you are an honest person and were very nice to deal with during the transaction. The entire point of buying/selling with BTC is that you are subject to the exchange rates, using fiat as a measurement during a trade sort of ruins the point of using BTC at all.

You say that I did not stick to the original price, then you call me a liar, then you call me a bitch. You claim that I wouldn't have given the deal if the exchange went down, what are you basing that on? And you claim that we all "know" that you would have given the discount. How do we know?

No USD equivalent was agreed to ever, please stop acting like it was.

You didn't trust me so you asked me to ship first, so I did. I was more than honest throughout this transaction, to direct profanity at me just makes you look bad.

I don't think it would be unreasonable to ask for this being they see the same data as you.  Its up to them to accept, but this would be a valid request and I would not be offended if someone asked me this, especially that they have not shipped.


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I am not the one that blew this up, please relax.

I ask that you please take me out of the negative section of your sig, because as you said, this wasn't me fault.

At the moment you agreed to the transaction you should have considered the 50BTC as spent.

I don't like to talk about other people deals but you accepted it and you're the only one that is complaining about it.

Imagine that a client purchases a VPS on my website and suddenly the bitcoin value rises. Why on earth would I have to give bitcoins back if the deal was closed in bitcoins ?

I'm afraid you don't understand the concept of bitcoin.

I am ready when you are jbob06 to transfer the funds, pm sent.

Hey, wutsup bud, hope nothing happened.

Sorry for the delay was out biking :)

replied to your PM

No problem at all. :) .

Funds has been sent.

https://blockchain.info/address/1ECmri3UDxsKK7SpL2DEE8PqgyuGUHhzcz

You requested the transaction ID. I had to do a little looking around. Sorry about that.

https://blockexplorer.com/tx/358a06d37f37231fd47ff7ce9e8233c3d57d1d568cf05a63528a5c2a5ae05eed#i8992578

I will have it shipped out in the next day or so. Thank you!

1 sold to pekv2. Still 9 up for grabs

updated first post per the stock that I have left.

Used to pay 135 for them 18 month ago. 

Just saying, 220 bt = ~145$

Price hasn't gone down on them hardly at all.

Shipped pekv2's card today. Still looking for new homes for the remaining 9. PM me for details.

dropped price due to BTC increase.

9x5850-210BTC shipped to US.

I will sell them as singles for 25BTC shipped

The card that jobob06 mailed off to me, has been received. I am mining on it now. Looks to be in great condition. It's the tiny buggers that have over voltage control, so that's a huge plus right there.

+1 to you jbob06

Edit:
Packaging and shipping is great.

Good to see it is being put to good use right away :)

I am lowering prices again due to the BTC increase.

Single 5850 - 21 BTC shipped
9x9850 - 185 BTC shipped

Damn, a steady 6.5, awesome. These are awesome cards, guys.

4 sold to BTC Guy. 5 remaining.

Shipped BTC Guy his 4 cards. Still have 5 looking for a new home.

responded to the couple of PMs that I received.

had a couple of offers fall through. Still have 5 up for sale.

i bought four cards from this guy. he shipped first. the cards arrived quick. jbob06 gets a +1 from me. thanks dude.

You're very welcome

My cards came.  They are clean, run great and worked with no problems.

They are the shorter version of 5850, so if any of you are cramped for space, these would be PERFECT.

Shipped fast too.

sold the last 5. I may have more gear for sales soon so stay tuned for that.