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Title: becoming suicidal
Post by: zeurpiet on November 23, 2014, 01:43:02 AM
All my life savings is in bitcoin , I even sold my son's bike to buy bitcoin.
My mental health is based on the btc market. So I'm very bipolar.
Today was a very depressed day , I tried to kill myself but now I'm a bit better.
For now I just lay in bed with a bottle of wisky trying to sleep.

Does anyone know if there is a small change we ever see 1000$ again?

thank you


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 23, 2014, 01:48:52 AM
All my life savings is in bitcoin , I even sold my son's bike to buy bitcoin.
My mental health is based on the btc market. So I'm very bipolar.
Today was a very depressed day , I tried to kill myself but now I'm a bit better.
For now I just lay in bed with a bottle of wisky trying to sleep.

Does anyone know if there is a small change we ever see 1000$ again?

thank you

I hope you aren't serious. These threads always make me uncomfortable :'(

I wish I had some crypto advice that could help...I think the gambling aspect might have gotten you? Try to slowly get out on small bull traps would be my n00b warning


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Arrogantx on November 23, 2014, 01:51:20 AM
How much coin could you possibly get for your sons bike lol, I smell a troll ;)
On the other hand if by any chance you are serious and disturbed just take a deep breath and hold lol.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: MrBig on November 23, 2014, 01:51:45 AM
All my life savings is in bitcoin , I even sold my son's bike to buy bitcoin.
My mental health is based on the btc market. So I'm very bipolar.
Today was a very depressed day , I tried to kill myself but now I'm a bit better.
For now I just lay in bed with a bottle of wisky trying to sleep.

Does anyone know if there is a small change we ever see 1000$ again?

thank you

The reality is that no one knows if we'll see $1000 again or not. Sure there's a chance that we'll see it again, but it's impossible to quantify it. If btc is causing you this much distress, it may be a good idea to cut your losses and get out.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: zeurpiet on November 23, 2014, 01:52:37 AM
How much coin could you possibly get for your sons bike lol, I smell a troll ;)
On the other hand if by any chance you are serious and disturbed just take a deep breath and hold lol.

0.2 I think..


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Josepht on November 23, 2014, 01:53:09 AM
I guess his names tells us a lot.
Zeurpiet is Dutch for something like 'someone who complains a lot'.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Arrogantx on November 23, 2014, 01:53:54 AM
I guess his names tells us a lot.
Zeurpiet is Dutch for something like 'someone who complains a lot'.
that explains it lol ;)


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 23, 2014, 01:54:51 AM
I guess his names tells us a lot.
Zeurpiet is Dutch for something like 'someone who complains a lot'.

Trolls threaten suicide and leave easter eggs now?



Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Arrogantx on November 23, 2014, 02:02:09 AM
I guess his names tells us a lot.
Zeurpiet is Dutch for something like 'someone who complains a lot'.

Trolls threaten suicide and leave easter eggs now?



Tis a new age indeed. :)


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 23, 2014, 02:02:58 AM
I guess his names tells us a lot.
Zeurpiet is Dutch for something like 'someone who complains a lot'.

Trolls threaten suicide and leave easter eggs now?



Tis a new age indeed. :)

Noted :-\


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: vicemayor on November 23, 2014, 02:05:21 AM
All my life savings is in bitcoin , I even sold my son's bike to buy bitcoin.
My mental health is based on the btc market. So I'm very bipolar.
Today was a very depressed day , I tried to kill myself but now I'm a bit better.
For now I just lay in bed with a bottle of wisky trying to sleep.

Does anyone know if there is a small change we ever see 1000$ again?

thank you

Try talking to a live person.

Here=>  http://www.thd-utrecht.nl/ [for Netherlands]


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: zeurpiet on November 23, 2014, 02:07:38 AM
All my life savings is in bitcoin , I even sold my son's bike to buy bitcoin.
My mental health is based on the btc market. So I'm very bipolar.
Today was a very depressed day , I tried to kill myself but now I'm a bit better.
For now I just lay in bed with a bottle of wisky trying to sleep.

Does anyone know if there is a small change we ever see 1000$ again?

thank you

Try talking to a live person.

Here=>  http://www.thd-utrecht.nl/ [for Netherlands]

dankje


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Cryptour on November 23, 2014, 02:15:15 AM
This is type of statement I usually read on alt coins thread. Don't invest more than what you can afford to lose. Yes it might go back to $1,000 maybe in 2-5 Years.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: ImI on November 23, 2014, 02:47:58 AM
Does anyone know if there is a small change we ever see 1000$ again?

chances are there and chances are well over 50% imo.



Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Useli Violent on November 23, 2014, 03:01:53 AM
This does not belong in the Speculation section.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 23, 2014, 03:05:24 AM
This does not belong in the Speculation section.

Where would you prefer it? Beginners and Help?


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Useli Violent on November 23, 2014, 03:07:25 AM
This does not belong in the Speculation section.

Where would you prefer it? Beginners and Help?

Yes, or Off-topic.
Seriously, becoming suicidal is Speculation? ::)


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 23, 2014, 03:08:33 AM
This does not belong in the Speculation section.

Where would you prefer it? Beginners and Help?

Yes, or Off-topic.
Seriously, becoming suicidal is Speculation?

Well, he also wanted to know if we would reach a thousand again..IDK :P


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: adaseb on November 23, 2014, 04:56:21 AM
Depends how much of his life savings are in BTC. I see it as being the truth.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Useli Violent on November 23, 2014, 04:56:42 AM
This does not belong in the Speculation section.

Where would you prefer it? Beginners and Help?

Yes, or Off-topic.
Seriously, becoming suicidal is Speculation?

Well, he also wanted to know if we would reach a thousand again..IDK :P

Ok, BlindMayorBitcorn, I'll speculate....
That some members, typically the newer ones, are speaking more freely about how desperate they are.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: dinofelis on November 23, 2014, 05:03:28 AM
Yes, or Off-topic.
Seriously, becoming suicidal is Speculation? ::)

I would say it is one of the most extreme forms of speculation :-)


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: BitMos on November 23, 2014, 05:03:29 AM
What you don't understand is that this suicidal club is growing so fast in the west... Why because we are FEED UP. ALL OF US. FEED TO BE SCRUBING ROOTS ALL DAYS, WHILE OUR GREAT LEADERS ENJOY ALL THE PERKS OF LIFE.

EX: EUROPEAN COMMISSION PARTICIPANTS : NO TAXES, BIG SALARY, NO WORK
EX : AMERICAN CONGRESS PARTICIPANTS: LEGAL INSIDER TRADING, MEGA LOBBY FEES, NO WORK


now let's move to the average dude: mega debt from college that doesn't improve anything (if he didn't do hardscience or anything not related to social science) - very low salary - mega high taxes - inflation destroying everything saving you have - the perspective to see everything fucked up around you - papers to get job - job to get money - money to get girls - yeahhhhh welcome to the west.

Suicide is the best path in this instance... at least you don't hurt anyone in your way out.

and I forget, those sub humans even dare to make a plant called cannabis illegal... what the fuck. this sucks so much to live with people that believe to be smart enough to scam everyone, and than everyone will not see trough it.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: spiderbrain on November 23, 2014, 06:02:17 AM
Never have more invested in bitcoin than you can afford to lose. I think it will be over $1000 within a year, but being invested in this thing is dangerous to your health, so you need to sell some to the point where you can relax. Taking the easy way out and leaving your family with a corpse is not a good thing to do, so stick around and try and enjoy yourself in whatever way you can.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: chessnut on November 23, 2014, 06:28:50 AM
Well you cant give up now, you have to buy more to off-set the losses. Is your son good at working around the house? hire him out to earn some money so you can buy some more bitcoin. Not a good move selling his bike, he could have got a paper delivery job with that. You will also need to do some high frequency day trading to make back what you have lost, and you'll have to use 20x leverage at this rate.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: tss on November 23, 2014, 07:34:16 AM
op, you can always make money shorting all the coin you can.  since buying didn't work out for you, selling should.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: ElectricMucus on November 23, 2014, 09:31:45 AM
Take your meds Riesto.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Elwar on November 23, 2014, 10:09:58 AM
All my life savings is in bitcoin , I even sold my son's bike to buy bitcoin.
My mental health is based on the btc market. So I'm very bipolar.
Today was a very depressed day , I tried to kill myself but now I'm a bit better.
For now I just lay in bed with a bottle of wisky trying to sleep.

Does anyone know if there is a small change we ever see 1000$ again?

thank you

How much did the bottle of wisky cost?


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Tzupy on November 23, 2014, 10:42:26 AM
Well you cant give up now, you have to buy more to off-set the losses. Is your son good at working around the house? hire him out to earn some money so you can buy some more bitcoin. Not a good move selling his bike, he could have got a paper delivery job with that. You will also need to do some high frequency day trading to make back what you have lost, and you'll have to use 20x leverage at this rate.


chessnut, please stick to EW and don't give him advice to day trade, especially with 20x leverage. If he is no good (which is likely) he'll quickly lose all.

OP, assuming you are telling the truth, I'll try to give some advice. Soon there should be a rebound from this slump, after that the market should decide where to go,
build a new bull market, or continue with several large drops. In the second case, price could eventually fall below 200$, and your suicidal mood could get worse.
So my advice is to wait for the rebound and, based on how it looks, decide to hold or sell and buy lower (in which case, if you act correctly, you'll have more bitcoins).


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: chessnut on November 23, 2014, 11:29:07 AM
Well you cant give up now, you have to buy more to off-set the losses. Is your son good at working around the house? hire him out to earn some money so you can buy some more bitcoin. Not a good move selling his bike, he could have got a paper delivery job with that. You will also need to do some high frequency day trading to make back what you have lost, and you'll have to use 20x leverage at this rate.


chessnut, please stick to EW and don't give him advice to day trade, especially with 20x leverage. If he is no good (which is likely) he'll quickly lose all.

OP, assuming you are telling the truth, I'll try to give some advice. Soon there should be a rebound from this slump, after that the market should decide where to go,
build a new bull market, or continue with several large drops. In the second case, price could eventually fall below 200$, and your suicidal mood could get worse.
So my advice is to wait for the rebound and, based on how it looks, decide to hold or sell and buy lower (in which case, if you act correctly, you'll have more bitcoins).

lol obviously im trolling the troll..... frequent day trading is a sure way to lose no matter what system you use.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: wobber on November 23, 2014, 12:48:42 PM
God grace!

Please all stop it giving him/her advices on how to trade or not to invest more than he/she can afford to loose. Damage is already done.

For OP, I hope you read this. I suggest you to take out a very small part of bitcoins, buy a cheap whiskey and pack of cigarettes , good music and watch alone some good old photos of you in the past, ones that you were happy in. If that's too lame, take out some more money and get the most dearest persons next to you and DO SOMETHING NICE. That way, you'll put your Bitcoin investment to something good, and you'll always remember.  I for one will always remember the trip I got to the seaside by using about 25 btc a few years ago. And I don't regret a thing!

After that, put your stash offline, in the wallet and come back in a year. Be strong and don't let money affect you too much. You'll have eventually even worse problems in your life.

By the way, my father committed suicide. He asked me to go out before that (maybe he wanted to see me for the last time) for a beer and I declined it. Even if I get 100,000 BTC I can't turn back time. So think well.

Is money really worth it?


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: yefi on November 23, 2014, 01:30:22 PM
Well you cant give up now, you have to buy more to off-set the losses. Is your son good at working around the house? hire him out to earn some money so you can buy some more bitcoin. Not a good move selling his bike, he could have got a paper delivery job with that. You will also need to do some high frequency day trading to make back what you have lost, and you'll have to use 20x leverage at this rate.

;D Yeah, that kid ain't pulling his weight way I see it. While dad's getting drunk on whisky, he could be spit-polishing shoes to cover his margin position. Alas, the youth of today just don't understand strong work ethic.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: btcxyzzz on November 23, 2014, 01:50:05 PM
All my life savings is in bitcoin , I even sold my son's bike to buy bitcoin.
My mental health is based on the btc market. So I'm very bipolar.
Today was a very depressed day , I tried to kill myself but now I'm a bit better.
For now I just lay in bed with a bottle of wisky trying to sleep.

Does anyone know if there is a small change we ever see 1000$ again?

thank you

You've gone too far wit your greed and belief in Bitcoin. What you need to know is just 2 things:
1) Bitcoin was waaaay overpumped with last bubble, and the reason is mostly Mt.Gox hack, fictional dollars that were buying Bitcoins. And then China entered the market in the same time. That's why it is "dying" so steady for a year now.
2) If Bitcoin stays technically alive, I say price by the end of 2016 will reach at least 10x, and then falling to (again) to like 3x.

Be patient, don't loose your head, the moment Bitcoin rises to the extent which is "too good to be true", sell them.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: N12 on November 23, 2014, 02:42:17 PM
sold my son's bike to buy bitcoin.
:'(

By the way, my father committed suicide. He asked me to go out before that (maybe he wanted to see me for the last time) for a beer and I declined it.
:'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: NapoleonBonaparte on November 23, 2014, 02:56:57 PM
All my life savings is in bitcoin , I even sold my son's bike to buy bitcoin.
My mental health is based on the btc market. So I'm very bipolar.
Today was a very depressed day , I tried to kill myself but now I'm a bit better.
For now I just lay in bed with a bottle of wisky trying to sleep.

Does anyone know if there is a small change we ever see 1000$ again?

thank you

You want to commit suicide over a few thousands dollars?


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Pierre11 on November 23, 2014, 02:59:47 PM
Don't ever think it was your fault because it wasn't. Live your life, you can do what you want, just do it! No regrets


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: LTListener on November 23, 2014, 03:16:31 PM
Lol, fucking zeurpiet  ::)


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Addition on November 23, 2014, 03:25:28 PM
Don't do it brother!

Can never take back and really is more to life than money and bitcoins.

If you ever need someone to talk shit to, pm me and I'll call you back  :)


Was out last night with some old school friends, we all recently learned one of our best mates hung himself  :'(  Lot's of us feeling angry and wish he'd just called or reached out. Fcking Top Lad, Father and Friend!

We all get separated by time, but friends always friends no matter what, you ain't alone my mate.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: NotLambchop on November 23, 2014, 03:54:46 PM
https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2013/3/5/263304.jpg


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: piramida on November 23, 2014, 06:09:02 PM
Well you cant give up now, you have to buy more to off-set the losses. Is your son good at working around the house? hire him out to earn some money so you can buy some more bitcoin. Not a good move selling his bike, he could have got a paper delivery job with that. You will also need to do some high frequency day trading to make back what you have lost, and you'll have to use 20x leverage at this rate.


Yeah best advice here! Also, you can sell some internal organs. You are not all in until you can move and breathe and have some relatives left!


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: yayayo on November 23, 2014, 07:04:41 PM
If that's a joke I don't think it's funny. If it's serious, I can only recommend to seek professional help!

Money is important, but it's not a reason to end one's life!

Just to put it in perspective: There are millions of people in the world who have nothing, not even enough food. Ask yourself: Should all these people commit suicide?

ya.ya.yo!


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Ibian on November 23, 2014, 08:29:31 PM
We need a troll section. And a proper mod who doesn't much like trolls. This place is pathetic.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: ElectricMucus on November 23, 2014, 10:14:34 PM
We need a troll section. And a proper mod who doesn't much like trolls. This place is pathetic.

I would volunteer for that.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: sobitcoin on November 23, 2014, 10:42:52 PM
All my life savings is in bitcoin , I even sold my son's bike to buy bitcoin.
My mental health is based on the btc market. So I'm very bipolar.
Today was a very depressed day , I tried to kill myself but now I'm a bit better.
For now I just lay in bed with a bottle of wisky trying to sleep.

Does anyone know if there is a small change we ever see 1000$ again?

thank you

Hey buddy.  Reconsider.  A Bitcoin isn't worth shit compared to your life.  The ups and downs can get a little hectic, especially for lots of us who sit on computers all day separated from the real world.  We gotta be there for each other.  Send me a PM if you need to chat I can send you my digits. 


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: neurotypical on November 23, 2014, 10:52:11 PM
Look at it this way: You had balls to do something radical. Now deal with the consequences. Hold till the end. Not being rich sucks anyway. Kinda pushed the limit at selling your son's bike tho.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: zeurpiet on November 23, 2014, 10:57:06 PM
Okay I will buy some more to make my total price lower.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Stinky_Pete on November 23, 2014, 10:58:04 PM
Yes, it may see $1000 again. Don't kill yourself.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: maku on November 23, 2014, 11:41:42 PM
I thought that this is the troll section.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Shyvana on November 24, 2014, 01:18:29 AM
if you about to suicide, just understand that every action is a reaction.

the reaction is based on those who are close around you. if you dont care about them, then theres 3 million people who live a state alone. im sure someone will impact you.

prices of bitcoin are a repeated history, you gotta look at the events...but if you want to continue considering that action I think you should wait another year.



Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: smalltimer on November 24, 2014, 01:36:41 AM
dude, your problem is you want that 1000$ bad. Maybe it never comes, maybe it is here next month. We don't know. Better to start trading with small amount for small percentage gains. Put the goals lower and you can earn good money on trading. I personally do not care if it is at 300$ or 1000$ because i can make money from it either way. If btc is too much for your mental state why not do something else for a year and then come back? You pay too much attention to it.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: TaunSew on November 24, 2014, 01:39:11 AM
If he had to sell some random bike for a few $100s then we're probably not talking about a huge irrecoverable sum.  Maybe he's a young father who spent his hard worked savings on BTC, so he could treat his family to something nice, and that's why he's upset when it did not go that way.


I bought into BTC at the time and did the calculations and determined, if it really went viral, than the only ROI left was around 1000x.  This is compared to the earliest adopters who saw a 450,000x return in November 2013.  For you to get 1000x return they would get 4.5x million return and yet it is the subsequent buyers who assume all the capital risk


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: yefi on November 24, 2014, 10:35:57 AM
Okay I will buy some more to make my total price lower.

Atta boy. Make sure to stock up on a barbiturates if things go wrong though.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: oblixster on November 24, 2014, 10:49:08 AM
I'm expecting Bitcoin hype again sometime in 2015, like it has done previous years. I hope it reaches $1000 that would be sweet ;D but who knows.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: gasdw86 on November 24, 2014, 12:25:53 PM
my dad kill him self 6days ago :( and we have economic problems too :(


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Jamie_Boulder on November 24, 2014, 12:30:25 PM
Sorry to hear about your unfortunate situation, sadly these things happen and our only option is to move forward and learn from our mistakes.

Easier said than done believe me I know but it's the truth.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: vm1990 on November 24, 2014, 05:41:27 PM
Well you cant give up now, you have to buy more to off-set the losses. Is your son good at working around the house? hire him out to earn some money so you can buy some more bitcoin. Not a good move selling his bike, he could have got a paper delivery job with that. You will also need to do some high frequency day trading to make back what you have lost, and you'll have to use 20x leverage at this rate.


maybe iv spent to much time on the net but that sounded wrong XD


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: dank on November 24, 2014, 06:09:12 PM
All my life savings is in bitcoin , I even sold my son's bike to buy bitcoin.
My mental health is based on the btc market. So I'm very bipolar.
Today was a very depressed day , I tried to kill myself but now I'm a bit better.
For now I just lay in bed with a bottle of wisky trying to sleep.

Does anyone know if there is a small change we ever see 1000$ again?

thank you

Don't look externally for happiness.  True happiness comes from within.

You are loved by more people than you could imagine.

I love you.  Your son loves you.  Love is all you need.

When I was suicidal as a teenager, cannabis gave me a new perspective and insight on life.  It helped me tremendously, perhaps it may for you too.

Music is a beautiful thing too.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Crypto_MERC on November 24, 2014, 09:23:50 PM
Maybe you should smoke some weed and relax a little bit. 


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: egghead123 on November 25, 2014, 01:20:13 PM
at least you didnt bet the farm on some sh1tcoin shitcoin


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Ibian on November 25, 2014, 02:27:05 PM
What, shit is censored?

Edit: No, no it's not. Don't be a pussy. Cuss properly or not at all.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Lauda on November 25, 2014, 02:49:16 PM
I hope you aren't serious. These threads always make me uncomfortable :'(

I wish I had some crypto advice that could help...I think the gambling aspect might have gotten you? Try to slowly get out on small bull traps would be my n00b warning

Why should these threads make you uncomfortable? Whoever is trying to get out of this game called 'Life' the easy way, by killing himself go ahead. It is very illogical to care about such people.

Even if this was a serious thread (which I highly doubt), sorry OP but you're a fool. We have said, countless times, do not invest what you can't afford. Also almost every single person who bought bitcoin thinks that he or she is a trader. Most people lose their money due to such thinking.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: NotLambchop on November 25, 2014, 02:58:04 PM
"People who try to commit suicide — don't attempt to save them! . . . China is such a populous nation, it is not as if we cannot do without a few people."

http://chineseposters.net/images/e13-644.jpg


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: the joint on November 25, 2014, 03:00:53 PM
1-800-273-8255

This is the number for the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline.

Calling this number should connect you with a local crisis center where social service professionals field crisis calls.

Please consider this number or reaching out to other clinical support systems in the area.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: dank on November 25, 2014, 03:13:15 PM
I hope you aren't serious. These threads always make me uncomfortable :'(

I wish I had some crypto advice that could help...I think the gambling aspect might have gotten you? Try to slowly get out on small bull traps would be my n00b warning

Why should these threads make you uncomfortable? Whoever is trying to get out of this game called 'Life' the easy way, by killing himself go ahead. It is very illogical to care about such people.

Even if this was a serious thread (which I highly doubt), sorry OP but you're a fool. We have said, countless times, do not invest what you can't afford. Also almost every single person who bought bitcoin thinks that he or she is a trader. Most people lose their money due to such thinking.

Do you not feel empathy?

Suicide is a byproduct of a society juices all they energy they can from people until they pop under stress.  It doesn't matter that he invested money frivolously.  What matters is that he is a human being deprived of love and we should not be ridiculing him in his time of depression.  I bet you most people in this western society have at least thought of killing themselves at one time.

Kids kill themselves over bad grades.  It's not the kids fault that they're raised in a society that doesn't value them as a person but what they can do for the system.

Show a little love, else you are just as responsible as any other factor that amounted to this.

OP, one recommendation, alcohol won't help anything.  It never has.  Perhaps learn about life from a more spiritual perspective.  When you realize negativity is a result of how you think, you can begin to change the way you think to a more positive spectrum.  Every negative has an opposing positive.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: dank on November 25, 2014, 03:15:44 PM
And god whatever you do, don't result to pharmaceutical antidepressants.

Try supplementing your life with natural herbs such as tumeric.  A simple change of diet can make all the difference.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: the joint on November 25, 2014, 03:37:52 PM
And god whatever you do, don't result to pharmaceutical antidepressants.

Try supplementing your life with natural herbs such as tumeric.  A simple change of diet can make all the difference.


Dank, just stop it.  There is absolutely no denying that antidepressants have legitimately helped millions of people.  Yes, a lot of people experience negative side effects, and in some cases antidepressants exacerbate depressive symptoms, but a lot of the time all that's needed to correct the issue are proper changes to the medication regimen by a psychiatrist.

It's incredibly dangerous when you just state this stuff to random strangers whose biology and psychology you're almost totally ignorant about.  One of the most common catalysts for psychiatric hospitalization or suicidal behaviors is when people *stop* taking psychiatric medications.  In other words, a suicidal or high-risk individual typically reduces their risk while taking their medications, but revert back to being high-risk after stopping their medications.

Psychiatric medications are intended to bring a person back to their baseline status so that they can properly address and work through their issues.  The eventual goal is to then be weened off the medication so that the positive changes still remain.

But please, for the sake of others, don't make Universal claims about medicines and their potential to benefit people.  You're not a psychiatrist, nor do you have any clue about the actual properties of psychiatric medications and how they operate in the body.  Statistically, the most effective form of treatment is a combination of therapy and medication rather than one, the other, or the absence of both.

This world isn't black-and-white like you make it out to be with every friggin' issue imaginable.



Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: egghead123 on November 25, 2014, 04:37:47 PM
What, shit is censored?

Edit: No, no it's not. Don't be a pussy. Cuss properly or not at all.

what the fuck are you on about?  Holy shit can I not comment without someone fucking stalking my presence :o


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: sickhouse on November 25, 2014, 05:50:18 PM
If you are becomming suicidal over this BTC is not for you. Sell them when you make a profit or even out, I mean it doesn't take much to figure out that your math is very off.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: vm1990 on November 25, 2014, 06:52:16 PM
What, shit is censored?

Edit: No, no it's not. Don't be a pussy. Cuss properly or not at all.

what the fuck are you on about?  Holy shit can I not comment without someone fucking stalking my presence :o

i saw that and no you cant  ;D we are watching you ever minute of every hour


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: gasdw86 on November 25, 2014, 07:57:14 PM
suicide its not a solution


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: sobitcoin on November 25, 2014, 08:01:00 PM
And god whatever you do, don't result to pharmaceutical antidepressants.

Try supplementing your life with natural herbs such as tumeric.  A simple change of diet can make all the difference.


Dank, just stop it.  There is absolutely no denying that antidepressants have legitimately helped millions of people.  Yes, a lot of people experience negative side effects, and in some cases antidepressants exacerbate depressive symptoms, but a lot of the time all that's needed to correct the issue are proper changes to the medication regimen by a psychiatrist.

It's incredibly dangerous when you just state this stuff to random strangers whose biology and psychology you're almost totally ignorant about.  One of the most common catalysts for psychiatric hospitalization or suicidal behaviors is when people *stop* taking psychiatric medications.  In other words, a suicidal or high-risk individual typically reduces their risk while taking their medications, but revert back to being high-risk after stopping their medications.

Psychiatric medications are intended to bring a person back to their baseline status so that they can properly address and work through their issues.  The eventual goal is to then be weened off the medication so that the positive changes still remain.

But please, for the sake of others, don't make Universal claims about medicines and their potential to benefit people.  You're not a psychiatrist, nor do you have any clue about the actual properties of psychiatric medications and how they operate in the body.  Statistically, the most effective form of treatment is a combination of therapy and medication rather than one, the other, or the absence of both.

This world isn't black-and-white like you make it out to be with every friggin' issue imaginable.



Not for or against Big Pharma... But i think your name solves the majority of it.




Quote
You're not a psychiatrist, nor do you have any clue about the actual properties of psychiatric medications and how they operate in the body.  Statistically, the most effective form of treatment is a combination of therapy and medication rather than one, the other, or the absence of both.  
 
 

 

Are you?  Statistically? What statistics? The statistics conducted by who?  I am not disagreeing that it is no good to recomend shit you don't know about, however, you're basing your evidence of statistics of what? The generation that publicized reefer madness?  The generation that 10 years ago claimed marijuana was going to wipe out society, and is currently legalized in a number of states for its proprietary medical uses, the same ones that studies "claimed" to be false? What studies are these? Are you sure they are transparent?  The numbers and studies conducted to support pharmaceuticals and turn people away from other substances uncontrolled?



If you are going to ask for merits, please sir, pipe up with your PHD, because as far as i am concerned your promotion of pharma, is notmuch different then the quote you were referring to.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: the joint on November 25, 2014, 08:30:56 PM
And god whatever you do, don't result to pharmaceutical antidepressants.

Try supplementing your life with natural herbs such as tumeric.  A simple change of diet can make all the difference.


Dank, just stop it.  There is absolutely no denying that antidepressants have legitimately helped millions of people.  Yes, a lot of people experience negative side effects, and in some cases antidepressants exacerbate depressive symptoms, but a lot of the time all that's needed to correct the issue are proper changes to the medication regimen by a psychiatrist.

It's incredibly dangerous when you just state this stuff to random strangers whose biology and psychology you're almost totally ignorant about.  One of the most common catalysts for psychiatric hospitalization or suicidal behaviors is when people *stop* taking psychiatric medications.  In other words, a suicidal or high-risk individual typically reduces their risk while taking their medications, but revert back to being high-risk after stopping their medications.

Psychiatric medications are intended to bring a person back to their baseline status so that they can properly address and work through their issues.  The eventual goal is to then be weened off the medication so that the positive changes still remain.

But please, for the sake of others, don't make Universal claims about medicines and their potential to benefit people.  You're not a psychiatrist, nor do you have any clue about the actual properties of psychiatric medications and how they operate in the body.  Statistically, the most effective form of treatment is a combination of therapy and medication rather than one, the other, or the absence of both.

This world isn't black-and-white like you make it out to be with every friggin' issue imaginable.



Not for or against Big Pharma... But i think your name solves the majority of it.




Quote
You're not a psychiatrist, nor do you have any clue about the actual properties of psychiatric medications and how they operate in the body.  Statistically, the most effective form of treatment is a combination of therapy and medication rather than one, the other, or the absence of both.  
 
 

 

Are you?  Statistically? What statistics? The statistics conducted by who?  I am not disagreeing that it is no good to recomend shit you don't know about, however, you're basing your evidence of statistics of what? The generation that publicized reefer madness?  The generation that 10 years ago claimed marijuana was going to wipe out society, and is currently legalized in a number of states for its proprietary medical uses, the same ones that studies "claimed" to be false? What studies are these? Are you sure they are transparent?  The numbers and studies conducted to support pharmaceuticals and turn people away from other substances uncontrolled?



If you are going to ask for merits, please sir, pipe up with your PHD, because as far as i am concerned your promotion of pharma, is notmuch different then the quote you were referring to.


My name "the joint" isn't a drug reference.  It's more like, "Hey, welcome to da joint!" (Insert Joe Pesci face here).

I'm not a psychiatrist.  But I have a post-graduate degree in the fields of mental health and social work and I was recently (and may still be) ranked #1 in the United States for both productivity and positive client outcomes in my role as a transition coordinator for a Federal financial assistance program the helps nursing home residents with a history of serious mental illness with community reintegration.  I've also worked as a mental health counselor for three agencies which includes the adult psychiatric units of two Chicago Metropolitan hospitals. I've worked with literally thousands of clients being treated with psychiatric medications for all sorts of mental issues including depression and other mood disorders, anxiety disorders, schizophrenia and delusional disorders, substance abuse of all types, personality disorders, chronic homelessness or incarceration, etc.

http://www.nami.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Mental_Illnesses/Depression/Depression_Treatment,_Services_and_Supports.htm (http://www.nami.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Mental_Illnesses/Depression/Depression_Treatment,_Services_and_Supports.htm)

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There are several types of psychotherapy that have been shown to be effective for depression, including cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) and interpersonal therapy (IPT). In general, these two types of therapies are short-term; treatments usually last only 10-20 weeks. Research has shown that mild to moderate depression can often be treated successfully with either medication or psychotherapy alone. However, severe depression appears more likely to respond to a combination of these two treatments.

Edit:  Interestingly, of all the clients that I've successfully transitioned from nursing homes to apartments or other individual living spaces, only one client needed to be re-institutionalized back into a nursing home.  The reason?  He stopped taking his psychiatric medications just a couple days after discharging from the nursing home (because he said he felt "fine" and didn't need them anymore) and was re-institutionalized within a few weeks.  Interestingly, once he started back on his medications after going back to the nursing home, it only took a few more weeks for the client to re-stabilize back to baseline.  He is now living in a group home with staff on site to monitor his medication usage. He has been doing perfectly fine ever since, and it's primarily because he is now remaining compliant with his medications.

Edit 2:  It's also interesting to note that, although this is the only client I've worked with who has needed to be re-institutionalized after moving back into the community, this client was clinically determined to be the highest functioning client I've had on my caseload according to a mental health level of functioning assessment.  However, the client scored so high when he was in the nursing home and on his medications.  This serves as an indicator as to how much importance medications play in the treatment process.  Our highest functioning client arguably became our lowest functioning client specifically because he went off of his medications, and for no other significant reason.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: seoincorporation on November 25, 2014, 08:37:27 PM
If price goes down, get more bitcoins.

Is hard to think price will be on $1000 again, but at last is posible :)


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: b!z on November 25, 2014, 08:45:05 PM
If price goes down, get more bitcoins.

Is hard to think price will be on $1000 again, but at last is posible :)

"oh, bitcoin is losing value? better buy more"

put your money where your mouth is; have you spent all your savings on bitcoin yet?


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: totoy on November 25, 2014, 08:46:30 PM
xanax  ;D ;D


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: b!z on November 25, 2014, 08:48:44 PM
Why should these threads make you uncomfortable? Whoever is trying to get out of this game called 'Life' the easy way, by killing himself go ahead. It is very illogical to care about such people.

Imagine yourself in the same situation. Everybody deserves help.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: seoincorporation on November 25, 2014, 08:58:13 PM
If price goes down, get more bitcoins.

Is hard to think price will be on $1000 again, but at last is posible :)

"oh, bitcoin is losing value? better buy more"

put your money where your mouth is; have you spent all your savings on bitcoin yet?

I still having 3 btc in cold wallets. The magic of gambling you know, start from 0, make more than 5...


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: b!z on November 25, 2014, 08:59:37 PM
If price goes down, get more bitcoins.

Is hard to think price will be on $1000 again, but at last is posible :)

"oh, bitcoin is losing value? better buy more"

put your money where your mouth is; have you spent all your savings on bitcoin yet?

I still having 3 btc in cold wallets. The magic of gambling you know, start from 0, make more than 5...

the OP spent all his life savings on bitcoin; he even sold his son's bike

and you're suggesting him to buy more BTC? why don't you try the same?


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: seoincorporation on November 25, 2014, 09:10:21 PM
If price goes down, get more bitcoins.

Is hard to think price will be on $1000 again, but at last is posible :)

"oh, bitcoin is losing value? better buy more"

put your money where your mouth is; have you spent all your savings on bitcoin yet?

I still having 3 btc in cold wallets. The magic of gambling you know, start from 0, make more than 5...

the OP spent all his life savings on bitcoin; he even sold his son's bike

and you're suggesting him to buy more BTC? why don't you try the same?

When i say "get more bitcoins" i dont mean BUY MORE...

I mean, drop 25 bitcoin on the blue line at Luckyb.it and and get easy 2.5 bitcoins.

With bitcoin gambling you can easy seat on a poker table with 0.1 and go with 1 bitcoin.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: b!z on November 25, 2014, 09:13:10 PM
If price goes down, get more bitcoins.

Is hard to think price will be on $1000 again, but at last is posible :)

"oh, bitcoin is losing value? better buy more"

put your money where your mouth is; have you spent all your savings on bitcoin yet?

I still having 3 btc in cold wallets. The magic of gambling you know, start from 0, make more than 5...

the OP spent all his life savings on bitcoin; he even sold his son's bike

and you're suggesting him to buy more BTC? why don't you try the same?

When i say "get more bitcoins" i dont mean BUY MORE...

I mean, drop 25 bitcoin on the blue line at Luckyb.it and and get easy 2.5 bitcoins.

With bitcoin gambling you can easy seat on a poker table with 0.1 and go with 1 bitcoin.

Are you trolling? Because you don't seem to be doing it very well.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: seoincorporation on November 25, 2014, 09:20:35 PM
If price goes down, get more bitcoins.

Is hard to think price will be on $1000 again, but at last is posible :)

"oh, bitcoin is losing value? better buy more"

put your money where your mouth is; have you spent all your savings on bitcoin yet?

I still having 3 btc in cold wallets. The magic of gambling you know, start from 0, make more than 5...

the OP spent all his life savings on bitcoin; he even sold his son's bike

and you're suggesting him to buy more BTC? why don't you try the same?

When i say "get more bitcoins" i dont mean BUY MORE...

I mean, drop 25 bitcoin on the blue line at Luckyb.it and and get easy 2.5 bitcoins.

With bitcoin gambling you can easy seat on a poker table with 0.1 and go with 1 bitcoin.

Are you trolling? Because you don't seem to be doing it very well.

No sir, im not trolling, i am sharing my perspective. If at any time was offensive, I offer you an apology.

Hope the OP recover the money... No more comments. I dont want to offend any one.

Have a great day.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: sobitcoin on November 25, 2014, 09:28:54 PM
And god whatever you do, don't result to pharmaceutical antidepressants.

Try supplementing your life with natural herbs such as tumeric.  A simple change of diet can make all the difference.


Dank, just stop it.  There is absolutely no denying that antidepressants have legitimately helped millions of people.  Yes, a lot of people experience negative side effects, and in some cases antidepressants exacerbate depressive symptoms, but a lot of the time all that's needed to correct the issue are proper changes to the medication regimen by a psychiatrist.

It's incredibly dangerous when you just state this stuff to random strangers whose biology and psychology you're almost totally ignorant about.  One of the most common catalysts for psychiatric hospitalization or suicidal behaviors is when people *stop* taking psychiatric medications.  In other words, a suicidal or high-risk individual typically reduces their risk while taking their medications, but revert back to being high-risk after stopping their medications.

Psychiatric medications are intended to bring a person back to their baseline status so that they can properly address and work through their issues.  The eventual goal is to then be weened off the medication so that the positive changes still remain.

But please, for the sake of others, don't make Universal claims about medicines and their potential to benefit people.  You're not a psychiatrist, nor do you have any clue about the actual properties of psychiatric medications and how they operate in the body.  Statistically, the most effective form of treatment is a combination of therapy and medication rather than one, the other, or the absence of both.

This world isn't black-and-white like you make it out to be with every friggin' issue imaginable.



Not for or against Big Pharma... But i think your name solves the majority of it.




Quote
You're not a psychiatrist, nor do you have any clue about the actual properties of psychiatric medications and how they operate in the body.  Statistically, the most effective form of treatment is a combination of therapy and medication rather than one, the other, or the absence of both.  
 
 

 

Are you?  Statistically? What statistics? The statistics conducted by who?  I am not disagreeing that it is no good to recomend shit you don't know about, however, you're basing your evidence of statistics of what? The generation that publicized reefer madness?  The generation that 10 years ago claimed marijuana was going to wipe out society, and is currently legalized in a number of states for its proprietary medical uses, the same ones that studies "claimed" to be false? What studies are these? Are you sure they are transparent?  The numbers and studies conducted to support pharmaceuticals and turn people away from other substances uncontrolled?



If you are going to ask for merits, please sir, pipe up with your PHD, because as far as i am concerned your promotion of pharma, is notmuch different then the quote you were referring to.


My name "the joint" isn't a drug reference.  It's more like, "Hey, welcome to da joint!" (Insert Joe Pesci face here).

I'm not a psychiatrist.  But I have a post-graduate degree in the fields of mental health and social work and I was recently (and may still be) ranked #1 in the United States for both productivity and positive client outcomes in my role as a transition coordinator for a Federal financial assistance program the helps nursing home residents with a history of serious mental illness with community reintegration.  I've also worked as a mental health counselor for three agencies which includes the adult psychiatric units of two Chicago Metropolitan hospitals. I've worked with literally thousands of clients being treated with psychiatric medications for all sorts of mental issues including depression and other mood disorders, anxiety disorders, schizophrenia and delusional disorders, substance abuse of all types, personality disorders, chronic homelessness or incarceration, etc.

http://www.nami.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Mental_Illnesses/Depression/Depression_Treatment,_Services_and_Supports.htm (http://www.nami.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Mental_Illnesses/Depression/Depression_Treatment,_Services_and_Supports.htm)

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There are several types of psychotherapy that have been shown to be effective for depression, including cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) and interpersonal therapy (IPT). In general, these two types of therapies are short-term; treatments usually last only 10-20 weeks. Research has shown that mild to moderate depression can often be treated successfully with either medication or psychotherapy alone. However, severe depression appears more likely to respond to a combination of these two treatments.

Edit:  Interestingly, of all the clients that I've successfully transitioned from nursing homes to apartments or other individual living spaces, only one client needed to be re-institutionalized back into a nursing home.  The reason?  He stopped taking his psychiatric medications just a couple days after discharging from the nursing home (because he said he felt "fine" and didn't need them anymore) and was re-institutionalized within a few weeks.  Interestingly, once he started back on his medications after going back to the nursing home, it only took a few more weeks for the client to re-stabilize back to baseline.  He is now living in a group home with staff on site to monitor his medication usage. He has been doing perfectly fine ever since, and it's primarily because he is now remaining compliant with his medications.

Edit 2:  It's also interesting to note that, although this is the only client I've worked with who has needed to be re-institutionalized after moving back into the community, this client was clinically determined to be the highest functioning client I've had on my caseload according to a mental health level of functioning assessment.  However, the client scored so high when he was in the nursing home and on his medications.  This serves as an indicator as to how much importance medications play in the treatment process.  Our highest functioning client arguably became our lowest functioning client specifically because he went off of his medications, and for no other significant reason.


Awesome.  The Joint, was a joke.


Good to hear you have an education in the area.  That comment clears the air.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on November 25, 2014, 11:06:25 PM
And god whatever you do, don't result to pharmaceutical antidepressants.

Try supplementing your life with natural herbs such as tumeric.  A simple change of diet can make all the difference.


Dank, just stop it.  There is absolutely no denying that antidepressants have legitimately helped millions of people.  Yes, a lot of people experience negative side effects, and in some cases antidepressants exacerbate depressive symptoms, but a lot of the time all that's needed to correct the issue are proper changes to the medication regimen by a psychiatrist.

It's incredibly dangerous when you just state this stuff to random strangers whose biology and psychology you're almost totally ignorant about.  One of the most common catalysts for psychiatric hospitalization or suicidal behaviors is when people *stop* taking psychiatric medications.  In other words, a suicidal or high-risk individual typically reduces their risk while taking their medications, but revert back to being high-risk after stopping their medications.

Psychiatric medications are intended to bring a person back to their baseline status so that they can properly address and work through their issues.  The eventual goal is to then be weened off the medication so that the positive changes still remain.

But please, for the sake of others, don't make Universal claims about medicines and their potential to benefit people.  You're not a psychiatrist, nor do you have any clue about the actual properties of psychiatric medications and how they operate in the body.  Statistically, the most effective form of treatment is a combination of therapy and medication rather than one, the other, or the absence of both.

This world isn't black-and-white like you make it out to be with every friggin' issue imaginable.



Not for or against Big Pharma... But i think your name solves the majority of it.




Quote
You're not a psychiatrist, nor do you have any clue about the actual properties of psychiatric medications and how they operate in the body.  Statistically, the most effective form of treatment is a combination of therapy and medication rather than one, the other, or the absence of both.  
 
 

 

Are you?  Statistically? What statistics? The statistics conducted by who?  I am not disagreeing that it is no good to recomend shit you don't know about, however, you're basing your evidence of statistics of what? The generation that publicized reefer madness?  The generation that 10 years ago claimed marijuana was going to wipe out society, and is currently legalized in a number of states for its proprietary medical uses, the same ones that studies "claimed" to be false? What studies are these? Are you sure they are transparent?  The numbers and studies conducted to support pharmaceuticals and turn people away from other substances uncontrolled?



If you are going to ask for merits, please sir, pipe up with your PHD, because as far as i am concerned your promotion of pharma, is notmuch different then the quote you were referring to.


My name "the joint" isn't a drug reference.  It's more like, "Hey, welcome to da joint!" (Insert Joe Pesci face here).

I'm not a psychiatrist.  But I have a post-graduate degree in the fields of mental health and social work and I was recently (and may still be) ranked #1 in the United States for both productivity and positive client outcomes in my role as a transition coordinator for a Federal financial assistance program the helps nursing home residents with a history of serious mental illness with community reintegration.  I've also worked as a mental health counselor for three agencies which includes the adult psychiatric units of two Chicago Metropolitan hospitals. I've worked with literally thousands of clients being treated with psychiatric medications for all sorts of mental issues including depression and other mood disorders, anxiety disorders, schizophrenia and delusional disorders, substance abuse of all types, personality disorders, chronic homelessness or incarceration, etc.

http://www.nami.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Mental_Illnesses/Depression/Depression_Treatment,_Services_and_Supports.htm (http://www.nami.org/Content/NavigationMenu/Mental_Illnesses/Depression/Depression_Treatment,_Services_and_Supports.htm)

Quote
There are several types of psychotherapy that have been shown to be effective for depression, including cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) and interpersonal therapy (IPT). In general, these two types of therapies are short-term; treatments usually last only 10-20 weeks. Research has shown that mild to moderate depression can often be treated successfully with either medication or psychotherapy alone. However, severe depression appears more likely to respond to a combination of these two treatments.

Edit:  Interestingly, of all the clients that I've successfully transitioned from nursing homes to apartments or other individual living spaces, only one client needed to be re-institutionalized back into a nursing home.  The reason?  He stopped taking his psychiatric medications just a couple days after discharging from the nursing home (because he said he felt "fine" and didn't need them anymore) and was re-institutionalized within a few weeks.  Interestingly, once he started back on his medications after going back to the nursing home, it only took a few more weeks for the client to re-stabilize back to baseline.  He is now living in a group home with staff on site to monitor his medication usage. He has been doing perfectly fine ever since, and it's primarily because he is now remaining compliant with his medications.

Edit 2:  It's also interesting to note that, although this is the only client I've worked with who has needed to be re-institutionalized after moving back into the community, this client was clinically determined to be the highest functioning client I've had on my caseload according to a mental health level of functioning assessment.  However, the client scored so high when he was in the nursing home and on his medications.  This serves as an indicator as to how much importance medications play in the treatment process.  Our highest functioning client arguably became our lowest functioning client specifically because he went off of his medications, and for no other significant reason.


Awesome.  The Joint, was a joke.


Good to hear you have an education in the area.  That comment clears the air.

It actually pisses me off when people joke about suicide, when it's such a serious situation. I agree with the joint, and he really has the experience to back up his knowledge, along with education. Pharmaceutical antidepressants prove helpful to a certain degree, when the diagnosis is correct. A close friend of mine was prescribed antidepressants, which only worsened his condition, until a psychiatrist was able to identify that depression was not the only mental problem he was suffering from. The OP is a fucking troll, judging by the other posts from his profile.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Ibian on November 26, 2014, 01:29:27 AM
If price goes down, get more bitcoins.

Is hard to think price will be on $1000 again, but at last is posible :)

"oh, bitcoin is losing value? better buy more"

put your money where your mouth is; have you spent all your savings on bitcoin yet?
I have. Other than an upcoming vacation, all my money goes into bitcoin. Really hoping this bear market continues for another half year too, don't have the coins I want yet.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on November 26, 2014, 02:09:23 AM
If price goes down, get more bitcoins.

Is hard to think price will be on $1000 again, but at last is posible :)

"oh, bitcoin is losing value? better buy more"

put your money where your mouth is; have you spent all your savings on bitcoin yet?
I have. Other than an upcoming vacation, all my money goes into bitcoin. Really hoping this bear market continues for another half year too, don't have the coins I want yet.

That's an extremely high risk. Hope it works out well for you. Fortunately it hasn't been steadily declining.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Ibian on November 26, 2014, 02:32:42 AM
If price goes down, get more bitcoins.

Is hard to think price will be on $1000 again, but at last is posible :)

"oh, bitcoin is losing value? better buy more"

put your money where your mouth is; have you spent all your savings on bitcoin yet?
I have. Other than an upcoming vacation, all my money goes into bitcoin. Really hoping this bear market continues for another half year too, don't have the coins I want yet.

That's an extremely high risk. Hope it works out well for you. Fortunately it hasn't been steadily declining.
No risk at all, in my case. I had nothing when I first heard about bitcoin. No savings, no real income, no nothing. Either the price will rise and I will have enough money to last a lifetime, or I will be back where I started - except with more savings than I ever had before, even if the price halves from where it is now. Bitcoin has been nothing but good for me.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: clubsofsteel on November 26, 2014, 02:37:21 AM
hahaha..this is funny shyt


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on November 26, 2014, 08:54:44 AM
If price goes down, get more bitcoins.

Is hard to think price will be on $1000 again, but at last is posible :)

"oh, bitcoin is losing value? better buy more"

put your money where your mouth is; have you spent all your savings on bitcoin yet?
I have. Other than an upcoming vacation, all my money goes into bitcoin. Really hoping this bear market continues for another half year too, don't have the coins I want yet.

That's an extremely high risk. Hope it works out well for you. Fortunately it hasn't been steadily declining.
No risk at all, in my case. I had nothing when I first heard about bitcoin. No savings, no real income, no nothing. Either the price will rise and I will have enough money to last a lifetime, or I will be back where I started - except with more savings than I ever had before, even if the price halves from where it is now. Bitcoin has been nothing but good for me.

That's good to hear. May you have good fortunes :o Wish other people could be as fortunate haha


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: yefi on November 26, 2014, 10:55:34 AM
...I was recently (and may still be) ranked #1 in the United States for both productivity and positive client outcomes in my role as a transition coordinator for a Federal financial assistance program the helps nursing home residents with a history of serious mental illness with community reintegration.  I've also worked as a mental health counselor for three agencies which includes the adult psychiatric units of two Chicago Metropolitan hospitals. I've worked with literally thousands of clients being treated with psychiatric medications for all sorts of mental issues including depression and other mood disorders, anxiety disorders, schizophrenia and delusional disorders, substance abuse of all types, personality disorders, chronic homelessness or incarceration, etc.

Are you on this board because you're getting ready to bag us up? Make sure you save me a good seat for when I'm hooked up to a drip and dribbling down my chin. Thanks.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: b!z on November 26, 2014, 08:07:52 PM
If price goes down, get more bitcoins.

Is hard to think price will be on $1000 again, but at last is posible :)

"oh, bitcoin is losing value? better buy more"

put your money where your mouth is; have you spent all your savings on bitcoin yet?
I have. Other than an upcoming vacation, all my money goes into bitcoin. Really hoping this bear market continues for another half year too, don't have the coins I want yet.

That's an extremely high risk. Hope it works out well for you. Fortunately it hasn't been steadily declining.
No risk at all, in my case. I had nothing when I first heard about bitcoin. No savings, no real income, no nothing. Either the price will rise and I will have enough money to last a lifetime, or I will be back where I started - except with more savings than I ever had before, even if the price halves from where it is now. Bitcoin has been nothing but good for me.

Ever heard the saying "don't put all your eggs in one basket"? Why anybody would want to take the risk you described is beyond me.

If price goes down, get more bitcoins.

Is hard to think price will be on $1000 again, but at last is posible :)

"oh, bitcoin is losing value? better buy more"

put your money where your mouth is; have you spent all your savings on bitcoin yet?

I still having 3 btc in cold wallets. The magic of gambling you know, start from 0, make more than 5...

the OP spent all his life savings on bitcoin; he even sold his son's bike

and you're suggesting him to buy more BTC? why don't you try the same?

When i say "get more bitcoins" i dont mean BUY MORE...

I mean, drop 25 bitcoin on the blue line at Luckyb.it and and get easy 2.5 bitcoins.

With bitcoin gambling you can easy seat on a poker table with 0.1 and go with 1 bitcoin.

Are you trolling? Because you don't seem to be doing it very well.

No sir, im not trolling, i am sharing my perspective. If at any time was offensive, I offer you an apology.

Hope the OP recover the money... No more comments. I dont want to offend any one.

Have a great day.

You've probably just been lucky with your bets, but just keep in mind that for every winner, there are even more losers.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: dank on November 26, 2014, 08:37:25 PM
Tell me how well antidepressants worked out for those people (kids included) that go on shooting rampages after being 'treated' with them.

Pharmaceuticals are basterdized versions of nature's healing plants, all so they can make ridiculous amounts of money off people's suffering and demise.

But put your faith in the trillion dollar pharma industry if you want.  Just remember, antidepressants 'may cause suicidal thoughts'.

Throwing a bandaid on something doesn't heal the wound.  Only you can heal yourself.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: the joint on November 26, 2014, 09:00:58 PM
Tell me how well antidepressants worked out for those people (kids included) that go on shooting rampages after being 'treated' with them.

Pharmaceuticals are basterdized versions of nature's healing plants, all so they can make ridiculous amounts of money off people's suffering and demise.

But put your faith in the trillion dollar pharma industry if you want.  Just remember, antidepressants 'may cause suicidal thoughts'.

Throwing a bandaid on something doesn't heal the wound.  Only you can heal yourself.

Nothing you said here takes away anything from what I said in support of psychiatric medications.  Basically any psychiatrist is completely aware that the only real difference between most medications and poison is the dosage.  But, that's why we have controlled regulation, supervision, and monitoring of these substances.

You have a nasty habit of viewing almost every imaginable topic as all-or-nothing scenarios.  You basically assert that working is 100% bad, pharmaceuticals are 100% bad, natural drugs are 100% good, etc.  This is a childish, immature perspective.

You need to snap out of such a paralyzing view of the world.  Like I said previously, there is absolutely no denying that psychiatric medications have helped millions of people to improve their mood so that they can function better.  You didn't even deny this!  I never denied that psychiatric medications unfortunately cause serious side effects in some people, but so does pot and LSD (which you yourself have demonstrated beyond a reasonable doubt), fatty foods, hell even water.  You can overdose on water.  It's happened to people.

But you go on saying things which clearly indicate that you didn't actually read anything you're responding to, because all of your stated concerns were already conceded to you -- there's no reason to keep beating a dead horse.  Everyone knows that antidepressants are not ideally intended as a permanent fix, so why keep stating the obvious?  

The point is that, again, there are undeniably millions of people who have benefited from psychiatric medications despite many who have not,  and although it can't be stated for all cases, many of the serious side effects are the result of poor medication management on behalf of either the patient or the psychiatrist.

Edit:  Sometimes a band-aid prevents an unanticipated infection that could result while your body tries to heal itself.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: bornil267645 on November 27, 2014, 05:36:45 AM
The first mistake was to put your life savings in it. So no regret now.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on November 27, 2014, 09:34:46 AM
Tell me how well antidepressants worked out for those people (kids included) that go on shooting rampages after being 'treated' with them.

Pharmaceuticals are basterdized versions of nature's healing plants, all so they can make ridiculous amounts of money off people's suffering and demise.

But put your faith in the trillion dollar pharma industry if you want.  Just remember, antidepressants 'may cause suicidal thoughts'.

Throwing a bandaid on something doesn't heal the wound.  Only you can heal yourself.

Nothing you said here takes away anything from what I said in support of psychiatric medications.  Basically any psychiatrist is completely aware that the only real difference between most medications and poison is the dosage.  But, that's why we have controlled regulation, supervision, and monitoring of these substances.

You have a nasty habit of viewing almost every imaginable topic as all-or-nothing scenarios.  You basically assert that working is 100% bad, pharmaceuticals are 100% bad, natural drugs are 100% good, etc.  This is a childish, immature perspective.

You need to snap out of such a paralyzing view of the world.  Like I said previously, there is absolutely no denying that psychiatric medications have helped millions of people to improve their mood so that they can function better.  You didn't even deny this!  I never denied that psychiatric medications unfortunately cause serious side effects in some people, but so does pot and LSD (which you yourself have demonstrated beyond a reasonable doubt), fatty foods, hell even water.  You can overdose on water.  It's happened to people.

But you go on saying things which clearly indicate that you didn't actually read anything you're responding to, because all of your stated concerns were already conceded to you -- there's no reason to keep beating a dead horse.  Everyone knows that antidepressants are not ideally intended as a permanent fix, so why keep stating the obvious?  

The point is that, again, there are undeniably millions of people who have benefited from psychiatric medications despite many who have not,  and although it can't be stated for all cases, many of the serious side effects are the result of poor medication management on behalf of either the patient or the psychiatrist.

Edit:  Sometimes a band-aid prevents an unanticipated infection that could result while your body tries to heal itself.

Again, this perspective trumps dank's opinion. I have friends who have been helped significantly by antidepressants. They have a supplemental effect rather than a masking effect.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: yefi on November 27, 2014, 09:39:15 AM
Let's say we are in a concentration camp, and many of the prisoners are suffering from depression. By administering antidepressants that interfere with the natural pathways in their brains, we are able to make them happier and fully functional, so they can continue the slave labour we have set them.  Perhaps the unspoken purpose of such medication is not to make people happier per se, but to make them compliant.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on November 27, 2014, 10:52:02 AM
Let's say we are in a concentration camp, and many of the prisoners are suffering from depression. By administering antidepressants that interfere with the natural pathways in their brains, we are able to make them happier and fully functional, so they can continue the slave labour we have set them.  Perhaps the unspoken purpose of such medication is not to make people happier per se, but to make them compliant.

So when someone who is suicidal is put on antidepressants it makes them compliant with what?


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: bitcoinbelieve on November 27, 2014, 11:15:08 AM
All my life savings is in bitcoin , I even sold my son's bike to buy bitcoin.
My mental health is based on the btc market. So I'm very bipolar.
Today was a very depressed day , I tried to kill myself but now I'm a bit better.
For now I just lay in bed with a bottle of wisky trying to sleep.

Does anyone know if there is a small change we ever see 1000$ again?

thank you

Some people tends to hide true motives by covering it with something else and in this way it is easier to cope with it. In other words, I think you are not concern about the bitcoin price, in fact you are much worry about your insecurities and afraid to display it on public. You tried hide your weakness by masking it with something else and I must say there is nothing wrong with that to certain extend but (in the long run) this doesn't help you get on the right path. Like any recovery, you need acknowledge the problem (in which you did) and face your insecurities straight on alone or with somebody else.

To answer your question, no one can predict the future especially when it comes to bitcoin but in my opinion, the bitcoin will be next big thing in human history, I think this is once in the lifetime opportunities. I have invested lots of $$$.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: the joint on November 27, 2014, 11:49:15 AM
Let's say we are in a concentration camp, and many of the prisoners are suffering from depression. By administering antidepressants that interfere with the natural pathways in their brains, we are able to make them happier and fully functional, so they can continue the slave labour we have set them.  Perhaps the unspoken purpose of such medication is not to make people happier per se, but to make them compliant.

Some common symptoms of depression include:  loss of energy, oversleeping or insomnia, loss of appetite, decreased libido, social isolation and withdrawal,  lack of motivation and/or enjoyment going about your daily routine, increased uncontrolled substance abuse, etc.

When your body is sick with a cold or flu, it provides an immune response.  If you have a fever, it's because your body is attempting to fight the illness.  Consequently, you feel like crap, which is actually a pretty good thing at least in the sense that it makes you want to lay in bed all day, which conserves energy and allows your immune system to do its thing as efficiently as possible.

When you have a mental illness (e.g. depression), there is a different type of immune response which may be described by some of the symptoms of depression I mentioned earlier.  However, they also have the effect of making you feel like crap, which is actually a good thing because, in an ideal world where we can freely choose when and how we address our problems, we most likely should be taking time to focus on ourselves in order to raise our awareness of the decisions we make which may cause or exacerbate mental illness so that we can likewise raise our awareness of ways we can better care for our mental state.  To this extent, Dank is generally correct.

However, we don't live in an ideal world, and we often don't get the chance to take as much time as we want when we want it to address anxiety and depression, or at least not without severe consequences.  We usually have so many other responsibilities that we simply don't have the luxury of dropping everything to take care of ourselves.  Additionally, when people do get time to themselves, most people do the wrong kinds of things.  I would define the 'wrong' kinds of things as passive/escapist activities like watching television, sleeping excessively, using drugs, etc.  Instead, active activities such as exercise, meditation or other relaxation techniques or therapeutic exercises, hobbies, reading, learning, etc. are what help us to grow and progress towards self-actualization.

But, if you have a depressed person who already feels run down and worn out, and who does not have the luxury of dropping all of their other responsibilities, the problem is that it isn't very likely that after attending to all of their other responsibilities they're already struggling to manage that they are going to be motivated to consistently do these "active" activities.  Instead, people usually resort to the passive activities I mentioned because they constantly feel like they need a break from everything.

So, for those people who don't have the discipline or capacity in their current mental state to both adequately fulfill their typical responsibilities and also adequately take care of themselves, antidepressants can help elevate a person's mood throughout the day so that they feel motivated and energized.  

In many cases where antidepressants fail and you see people struggling to ever ween off of them, the problem often isn't the antidepressant itself, but rather that people don't often take advantage of the increased motivation, energy, and optimism and apply it towards engaging in those more beneficial, active activities.  Contrarily, those who do are usually the ones you see who are successfully weened off their medications and continue to maintain a positive mental state by abiding by new, better habits instead of the older habits.

Note*: I'm generalizing throughout.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Lauda on November 27, 2014, 12:37:51 PM
Do you not feel empathy?

Suicide is a byproduct of a society juices all they energy they can from people until they pop under stress.  It doesn't matter that he invested money frivolously.  What matters is that he is a human being deprived of love and we should not be ridiculing him in his time of depression.  I bet you most people in this western society have at least thought of killing themselves at one time.

Kids kill themselves over bad grades.  It's not the kids fault that they're raised in a society that doesn't value them as a person but what they can do for the system.

Show a little love, else you are just as responsible as any other factor that amounted to this.
OP, one recommendation, alcohol won't help anything.  It never has.  Perhaps learn about life from a more spiritual perspective.  When you realize negativity is a result of how you think, you can begin to change the way you think to a more positive spectrum.  Every negative has an opposing positive.
No, it's more like apathy there. Completely the opposite.
Well I do agree to some point here. Suicide is a byproduct of the society, but on the love part I don't agree. The weak feel the need for that much love.
Since you're against alcohol here, you're probably recommending some drugs am I right?


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: yefi on November 28, 2014, 12:48:49 PM
Let's say we are in a concentration camp, and many of the prisoners are suffering from depression. By administering antidepressants that interfere with the natural pathways in their brains, we are able to make them happier and fully functional, so they can continue the slave labour we have set them.  Perhaps the unspoken purpose of such medication is not to make people happier per se, but to make them compliant.

Some common symptoms of depression include:  loss of energy, oversleeping or insomnia, loss of appetite, decreased libido, social isolation and withdrawal,  lack of motivation and/or enjoyment going about your daily routine, increased uncontrolled substance abuse, etc.

When your body is sick with a cold or flu, it provides an immune response.  If you have a fever, it's because your body is attempting to fight the illness.  Consequently, you feel like crap, which is actually a pretty good thing at least in the sense that it makes you want to lay in bed all day, which conserves energy and allows your immune system to do its thing as efficiently as possible.

When you have a mental illness (e.g. depression), there is a different type of immune response which may be described by some of the symptoms of depression I mentioned earlier.  However, they also have the effect of making you feel like crap, which is actually a good thing because, in an ideal world where we can freely choose when and how we address our problems, we most likely should be taking time to focus on ourselves in order to raise our awareness of the decisions we make which may cause or exacerbate mental illness so that we can likewise raise our awareness of ways we can better care for our mental state.  To this extent, Dank is generally correct.

However, we don't live in an ideal world, and we often don't get the chance to take as much time as we want when we want it to address anxiety and depression, or at least not without severe consequences.  We usually have so many other responsibilities that we simply don't have the luxury of dropping everything to take care of ourselves.  Additionally, when people do get time to themselves, most people do the wrong kinds of things.  I would define the 'wrong' kinds of things as passive/escapist activities like watching television, sleeping excessively, using drugs, etc.  Instead, active activities such as exercise, meditation or other relaxation techniques or therapeutic exercises, hobbies, reading, learning, etc. are what help us to grow and progress towards self-actualization.

But, if you have a depressed person who already feels run down and worn out, and who does not have the luxury of dropping all of their other responsibilities, the problem is that it isn't very likely that after attending to all of their other responsibilities they're already struggling to manage that they are going to be motivated to consistently do these "active" activities.  Instead, people usually resort to the passive activities I mentioned because they constantly feel like they need a break from everything.

So, for those people who don't have the discipline or capacity in their current mental state to both adequately fulfill their typical responsibilities and also adequately take care of themselves, antidepressants can help elevate a person's mood throughout the day so that they feel motivated and energized.  

In many cases where antidepressants fail and you see people struggling to ever ween off of them, the problem often isn't the antidepressant itself, but rather that people don't often take advantage of the increased motivation, energy, and optimism and apply it towards engaging in those more beneficial, active activities.  Contrarily, those who do are usually the ones you see who are successfully weened off their medications and continue to maintain a positive mental state by abiding by new, better habits instead of the older habits.

Note*: I'm generalizing throughout.

Our answer to problems is to blame the individual. If a fish is out of water don't put it back, but drive a cannula into its veins and pump it oxygenated blood. We treat people so they are functional in their environment, but maybe they should be dysfunctional, and maybe we shouldn't support that environment. Over one in ten Americans is on antidepressants I read. How did we ever cope in the past?


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Ibian on November 28, 2014, 03:14:34 PM
Let's say we are in a concentration camp, and many of the prisoners are suffering from depression. By administering antidepressants that interfere with the natural pathways in their brains, we are able to make them happier and fully functional, so they can continue the slave labour we have set them.  Perhaps the unspoken purpose of such medication is not to make people happier per se, but to make them compliant.

Some common symptoms of depression include:  loss of energy, oversleeping or insomnia, loss of appetite, decreased libido, social isolation and withdrawal,  lack of motivation and/or enjoyment going about your daily routine, increased uncontrolled substance abuse, etc.

When your body is sick with a cold or flu, it provides an immune response.  If you have a fever, it's because your body is attempting to fight the illness.  Consequently, you feel like crap, which is actually a pretty good thing at least in the sense that it makes you want to lay in bed all day, which conserves energy and allows your immune system to do its thing as efficiently as possible.

When you have a mental illness (e.g. depression), there is a different type of immune response which may be described by some of the symptoms of depression I mentioned earlier.  However, they also have the effect of making you feel like crap, which is actually a good thing because, in an ideal world where we can freely choose when and how we address our problems, we most likely should be taking time to focus on ourselves in order to raise our awareness of the decisions we make which may cause or exacerbate mental illness so that we can likewise raise our awareness of ways we can better care for our mental state.  To this extent, Dank is generally correct.

However, we don't live in an ideal world, and we often don't get the chance to take as much time as we want when we want it to address anxiety and depression, or at least not without severe consequences.  We usually have so many other responsibilities that we simply don't have the luxury of dropping everything to take care of ourselves.  Additionally, when people do get time to themselves, most people do the wrong kinds of things.  I would define the 'wrong' kinds of things as passive/escapist activities like watching television, sleeping excessively, using drugs, etc.  Instead, active activities such as exercise, meditation or other relaxation techniques or therapeutic exercises, hobbies, reading, learning, etc. are what help us to grow and progress towards self-actualization.

But, if you have a depressed person who already feels run down and worn out, and who does not have the luxury of dropping all of their other responsibilities, the problem is that it isn't very likely that after attending to all of their other responsibilities they're already struggling to manage that they are going to be motivated to consistently do these "active" activities.  Instead, people usually resort to the passive activities I mentioned because they constantly feel like they need a break from everything.

So, for those people who don't have the discipline or capacity in their current mental state to both adequately fulfill their typical responsibilities and also adequately take care of themselves, antidepressants can help elevate a person's mood throughout the day so that they feel motivated and energized.  

In many cases where antidepressants fail and you see people struggling to ever ween off of them, the problem often isn't the antidepressant itself, but rather that people don't often take advantage of the increased motivation, energy, and optimism and apply it towards engaging in those more beneficial, active activities.  Contrarily, those who do are usually the ones you see who are successfully weened off their medications and continue to maintain a positive mental state by abiding by new, better habits instead of the older habits.

Note*: I'm generalizing throughout.

Our answer to problems is to blame the individual. If a fish is out of water don't put it back, but drive a cannula into its veins and pump it oxygenated blood. We treat people so they are functional in their environment, but maybe they should be dysfunctional, and maybe we shouldn't support that environment. Over one in ten Americans is on antidepressants I read. How did we ever cope in the past?
In the past we didn't live in a dysfunctional society.

Stumbled over an interesting theory recently. Apparently, an underdeveloped amygdala is correlated with mental issues, such as narcissism and an inability to properly judge risk. And the amygdala is stimulated by adversity. Thus, a safe society breeds insanity.

If this is true it would explain most of the problems in modern societies. The increasing number of people on prescription drugs, the rise in mental problems over the decades, the fact that global warming is not being laughed out of polite conversation, the focus on political correctness over facts.

It also follows that the younger someone is the more likely they are to be mentally handicapped in this manner. And since the mind becomes less malleable with age, one could hypothesize that past a certain age there is no helping them.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: junglist.massive on November 28, 2014, 04:05:44 PM
first and most important rule about trading:


INVEST ONLY MONEY THAT YOU AFFORD TO LOOSE


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Ibian on November 28, 2014, 04:52:56 PM
first and most important rule about trading:


INVEST ONLY MONEY THAT YOU AFFORD TO LOOSE
Fuck you. The word you are grasping for and somehow managed to miss is lose.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Buffer Overflow on November 28, 2014, 05:44:51 PM
And god whatever you do, don't result to pharmaceutical antidepressants.

Wow, I cannot believe you just wrote this. What would happen if the guy is genuinely suicidal and taking medication and decides to take your "advice", and something bad happens because of it?


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: NotLambchop on November 28, 2014, 06:27:43 PM
And god whatever you do, don't result to pharmaceutical antidepressants.

Wow, I cannot believe you just wrote this. What would happen if the guy is genuinely suicidal and taking medication and decides to take your "advice", and something bad happens because of it?

Pretty common mentality.  If a pharma co. made it, it's poison.  If some tweaker cooked it up in his bathtub, it's panacea.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: the joint on November 28, 2014, 07:59:58 PM
Let's say we are in a concentration camp, and many of the prisoners are suffering from depression. By administering antidepressants that interfere with the natural pathways in their brains, we are able to make them happier and fully functional, so they can continue the slave labour we have set them.  Perhaps the unspoken purpose of such medication is not to make people happier per se, but to make them compliant.

Some common symptoms of depression include:  loss of energy, oversleeping or insomnia, loss of appetite, decreased libido, social isolation and withdrawal,  lack of motivation and/or enjoyment going about your daily routine, increased uncontrolled substance abuse, etc.

When your body is sick with a cold or flu, it provides an immune response.  If you have a fever, it's because your body is attempting to fight the illness.  Consequently, you feel like crap, which is actually a pretty good thing at least in the sense that it makes you want to lay in bed all day, which conserves energy and allows your immune system to do its thing as efficiently as possible.

When you have a mental illness (e.g. depression), there is a different type of immune response which may be described by some of the symptoms of depression I mentioned earlier.  However, they also have the effect of making you feel like crap, which is actually a good thing because, in an ideal world where we can freely choose when and how we address our problems, we most likely should be taking time to focus on ourselves in order to raise our awareness of the decisions we make which may cause or exacerbate mental illness so that we can likewise raise our awareness of ways we can better care for our mental state.  To this extent, Dank is generally correct.

However, we don't live in an ideal world, and we often don't get the chance to take as much time as we want when we want it to address anxiety and depression, or at least not without severe consequences.  We usually have so many other responsibilities that we simply don't have the luxury of dropping everything to take care of ourselves.  Additionally, when people do get time to themselves, most people do the wrong kinds of things.  I would define the 'wrong' kinds of things as passive/escapist activities like watching television, sleeping excessively, using drugs, etc.  Instead, active activities such as exercise, meditation or other relaxation techniques or therapeutic exercises, hobbies, reading, learning, etc. are what help us to grow and progress towards self-actualization.

But, if you have a depressed person who already feels run down and worn out, and who does not have the luxury of dropping all of their other responsibilities, the problem is that it isn't very likely that after attending to all of their other responsibilities they're already struggling to manage that they are going to be motivated to consistently do these "active" activities.  Instead, people usually resort to the passive activities I mentioned because they constantly feel like they need a break from everything.

So, for those people who don't have the discipline or capacity in their current mental state to both adequately fulfill their typical responsibilities and also adequately take care of themselves, antidepressants can help elevate a person's mood throughout the day so that they feel motivated and energized.  

In many cases where antidepressants fail and you see people struggling to ever ween off of them, the problem often isn't the antidepressant itself, but rather that people don't often take advantage of the increased motivation, energy, and optimism and apply it towards engaging in those more beneficial, active activities.  Contrarily, those who do are usually the ones you see who are successfully weened off their medications and continue to maintain a positive mental state by abiding by new, better habits instead of the older habits.

Note*: I'm generalizing throughout.

Our answer to problems is to blame the individual. If a fish is out of water don't put it back, but drive a cannula into its veins and pump it oxygenated blood. We treat people so they are functional in their environment, but maybe they should be dysfunctional, and maybe we shouldn't support that environment. Over one in ten Americans is on antidepressants I read. How did we ever cope in the past?
In the past we didn't live in a dysfunctional society.

Stumbled over an interesting theory recently. Apparently, an underdeveloped amygdala is correlated with mental issues, such as narcissism and an inability to properly judge risk. And the amygdala is stimulated by adversity. Thus, a safe society breeds insanity.

If this is true it would explain most of the problems in modern societies. The increasing number of people on prescription drugs, the rise in mental problems over the decades, the fact that global warming is not being laughed out of polite conversation, the focus on political correctness over facts.

It also follows that the younger someone is the more likely they are to be mentally handicapped in this manner. And since the mind becomes less malleable with age, one could hypothesize that past a certain age there is no helping them.

That's very interesting.  Do you know where you came across this theory?  I would love to take a look at it :)


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Ibian on November 28, 2014, 08:49:35 PM
Let's say we are in a concentration camp, and many of the prisoners are suffering from depression. By administering antidepressants that interfere with the natural pathways in their brains, we are able to make them happier and fully functional, so they can continue the slave labour we have set them.  Perhaps the unspoken purpose of such medication is not to make people happier per se, but to make them compliant.

Some common symptoms of depression include:  loss of energy, oversleeping or insomnia, loss of appetite, decreased libido, social isolation and withdrawal,  lack of motivation and/or enjoyment going about your daily routine, increased uncontrolled substance abuse, etc.

When your body is sick with a cold or flu, it provides an immune response.  If you have a fever, it's because your body is attempting to fight the illness.  Consequently, you feel like crap, which is actually a pretty good thing at least in the sense that it makes you want to lay in bed all day, which conserves energy and allows your immune system to do its thing as efficiently as possible.

When you have a mental illness (e.g. depression), there is a different type of immune response which may be described by some of the symptoms of depression I mentioned earlier.  However, they also have the effect of making you feel like crap, which is actually a good thing because, in an ideal world where we can freely choose when and how we address our problems, we most likely should be taking time to focus on ourselves in order to raise our awareness of the decisions we make which may cause or exacerbate mental illness so that we can likewise raise our awareness of ways we can better care for our mental state.  To this extent, Dank is generally correct.

However, we don't live in an ideal world, and we often don't get the chance to take as much time as we want when we want it to address anxiety and depression, or at least not without severe consequences.  We usually have so many other responsibilities that we simply don't have the luxury of dropping everything to take care of ourselves.  Additionally, when people do get time to themselves, most people do the wrong kinds of things.  I would define the 'wrong' kinds of things as passive/escapist activities like watching television, sleeping excessively, using drugs, etc.  Instead, active activities such as exercise, meditation or other relaxation techniques or therapeutic exercises, hobbies, reading, learning, etc. are what help us to grow and progress towards self-actualization.

But, if you have a depressed person who already feels run down and worn out, and who does not have the luxury of dropping all of their other responsibilities, the problem is that it isn't very likely that after attending to all of their other responsibilities they're already struggling to manage that they are going to be motivated to consistently do these "active" activities.  Instead, people usually resort to the passive activities I mentioned because they constantly feel like they need a break from everything.

So, for those people who don't have the discipline or capacity in their current mental state to both adequately fulfill their typical responsibilities and also adequately take care of themselves, antidepressants can help elevate a person's mood throughout the day so that they feel motivated and energized.  

In many cases where antidepressants fail and you see people struggling to ever ween off of them, the problem often isn't the antidepressant itself, but rather that people don't often take advantage of the increased motivation, energy, and optimism and apply it towards engaging in those more beneficial, active activities.  Contrarily, those who do are usually the ones you see who are successfully weened off their medications and continue to maintain a positive mental state by abiding by new, better habits instead of the older habits.

Note*: I'm generalizing throughout.

Our answer to problems is to blame the individual. If a fish is out of water don't put it back, but drive a cannula into its veins and pump it oxygenated blood. We treat people so they are functional in their environment, but maybe they should be dysfunctional, and maybe we shouldn't support that environment. Over one in ten Americans is on antidepressants I read. How did we ever cope in the past?
In the past we didn't live in a dysfunctional society.

Stumbled over an interesting theory recently. Apparently, an underdeveloped amygdala is correlated with mental issues, such as narcissism and an inability to properly judge risk. And the amygdala is stimulated by adversity. Thus, a safe society breeds insanity.

If this is true it would explain most of the problems in modern societies. The increasing number of people on prescription drugs, the rise in mental problems over the decades, the fact that global warming is not being laughed out of polite conversation, the focus on political correctness over facts.

It also follows that the younger someone is the more likely they are to be mentally handicapped in this manner. And since the mind becomes less malleable with age, one could hypothesize that past a certain age there is no helping them.

That's very interesting.  Do you know where you came across this theory?  I would love to take a look at it :)
I suspect you wouldn't like the source. But given your background, look up r/K selection theory and work your way from there.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: the joint on November 28, 2014, 09:30:58 PM
Let's say we are in a concentration camp, and many of the prisoners are suffering from depression. By administering antidepressants that interfere with the natural pathways in their brains, we are able to make them happier and fully functional, so they can continue the slave labour we have set them.  Perhaps the unspoken purpose of such medication is not to make people happier per se, but to make them compliant.

Some common symptoms of depression include:  loss of energy, oversleeping or insomnia, loss of appetite, decreased libido, social isolation and withdrawal,  lack of motivation and/or enjoyment going about your daily routine, increased uncontrolled substance abuse, etc.

When your body is sick with a cold or flu, it provides an immune response.  If you have a fever, it's because your body is attempting to fight the illness.  Consequently, you feel like crap, which is actually a pretty good thing at least in the sense that it makes you want to lay in bed all day, which conserves energy and allows your immune system to do its thing as efficiently as possible.

When you have a mental illness (e.g. depression), there is a different type of immune response which may be described by some of the symptoms of depression I mentioned earlier.  However, they also have the effect of making you feel like crap, which is actually a good thing because, in an ideal world where we can freely choose when and how we address our problems, we most likely should be taking time to focus on ourselves in order to raise our awareness of the decisions we make which may cause or exacerbate mental illness so that we can likewise raise our awareness of ways we can better care for our mental state.  To this extent, Dank is generally correct.

However, we don't live in an ideal world, and we often don't get the chance to take as much time as we want when we want it to address anxiety and depression, or at least not without severe consequences.  We usually have so many other responsibilities that we simply don't have the luxury of dropping everything to take care of ourselves.  Additionally, when people do get time to themselves, most people do the wrong kinds of things.  I would define the 'wrong' kinds of things as passive/escapist activities like watching television, sleeping excessively, using drugs, etc.  Instead, active activities such as exercise, meditation or other relaxation techniques or therapeutic exercises, hobbies, reading, learning, etc. are what help us to grow and progress towards self-actualization.

But, if you have a depressed person who already feels run down and worn out, and who does not have the luxury of dropping all of their other responsibilities, the problem is that it isn't very likely that after attending to all of their other responsibilities they're already struggling to manage that they are going to be motivated to consistently do these "active" activities.  Instead, people usually resort to the passive activities I mentioned because they constantly feel like they need a break from everything.

So, for those people who don't have the discipline or capacity in their current mental state to both adequately fulfill their typical responsibilities and also adequately take care of themselves, antidepressants can help elevate a person's mood throughout the day so that they feel motivated and energized.  

In many cases where antidepressants fail and you see people struggling to ever ween off of them, the problem often isn't the antidepressant itself, but rather that people don't often take advantage of the increased motivation, energy, and optimism and apply it towards engaging in those more beneficial, active activities.  Contrarily, those who do are usually the ones you see who are successfully weened off their medications and continue to maintain a positive mental state by abiding by new, better habits instead of the older habits.

Note*: I'm generalizing throughout.

Our answer to problems is to blame the individual. If a fish is out of water don't put it back, but drive a cannula into its veins and pump it oxygenated blood. We treat people so they are functional in their environment, but maybe they should be dysfunctional, and maybe we shouldn't support that environment. Over one in ten Americans is on antidepressants I read. How did we ever cope in the past?
In the past we didn't live in a dysfunctional society.

Stumbled over an interesting theory recently. Apparently, an underdeveloped amygdala is correlated with mental issues, such as narcissism and an inability to properly judge risk. And the amygdala is stimulated by adversity. Thus, a safe society breeds insanity.

If this is true it would explain most of the problems in modern societies. The increasing number of people on prescription drugs, the rise in mental problems over the decades, the fact that global warming is not being laughed out of polite conversation, the focus on political correctness over facts.

It also follows that the younger someone is the more likely they are to be mentally handicapped in this manner. And since the mind becomes less malleable with age, one could hypothesize that past a certain age there is no helping them.

That's very interesting.  Do you know where you came across this theory?  I would love to take a look at it :)
I suspect you wouldn't like the source. But given your background, look up r/K selection theory and work your way from there.

I don't care about the source inasmuch as I'm concerned about the merit of the ideas.  The source becomes more important to me if the ideas stem from methods that I don't fully understand.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Ibian on November 28, 2014, 10:42:58 PM
Let's say we are in a concentration camp, and many of the prisoners are suffering from depression. By administering antidepressants that interfere with the natural pathways in their brains, we are able to make them happier and fully functional, so they can continue the slave labour we have set them.  Perhaps the unspoken purpose of such medication is not to make people happier per se, but to make them compliant.

Some common symptoms of depression include:  loss of energy, oversleeping or insomnia, loss of appetite, decreased libido, social isolation and withdrawal,  lack of motivation and/or enjoyment going about your daily routine, increased uncontrolled substance abuse, etc.

When your body is sick with a cold or flu, it provides an immune response.  If you have a fever, it's because your body is attempting to fight the illness.  Consequently, you feel like crap, which is actually a pretty good thing at least in the sense that it makes you want to lay in bed all day, which conserves energy and allows your immune system to do its thing as efficiently as possible.

When you have a mental illness (e.g. depression), there is a different type of immune response which may be described by some of the symptoms of depression I mentioned earlier.  However, they also have the effect of making you feel like crap, which is actually a good thing because, in an ideal world where we can freely choose when and how we address our problems, we most likely should be taking time to focus on ourselves in order to raise our awareness of the decisions we make which may cause or exacerbate mental illness so that we can likewise raise our awareness of ways we can better care for our mental state.  To this extent, Dank is generally correct.

However, we don't live in an ideal world, and we often don't get the chance to take as much time as we want when we want it to address anxiety and depression, or at least not without severe consequences.  We usually have so many other responsibilities that we simply don't have the luxury of dropping everything to take care of ourselves.  Additionally, when people do get time to themselves, most people do the wrong kinds of things.  I would define the 'wrong' kinds of things as passive/escapist activities like watching television, sleeping excessively, using drugs, etc.  Instead, active activities such as exercise, meditation or other relaxation techniques or therapeutic exercises, hobbies, reading, learning, etc. are what help us to grow and progress towards self-actualization.

But, if you have a depressed person who already feels run down and worn out, and who does not have the luxury of dropping all of their other responsibilities, the problem is that it isn't very likely that after attending to all of their other responsibilities they're already struggling to manage that they are going to be motivated to consistently do these "active" activities.  Instead, people usually resort to the passive activities I mentioned because they constantly feel like they need a break from everything.

So, for those people who don't have the discipline or capacity in their current mental state to both adequately fulfill their typical responsibilities and also adequately take care of themselves, antidepressants can help elevate a person's mood throughout the day so that they feel motivated and energized.  

In many cases where antidepressants fail and you see people struggling to ever ween off of them, the problem often isn't the antidepressant itself, but rather that people don't often take advantage of the increased motivation, energy, and optimism and apply it towards engaging in those more beneficial, active activities.  Contrarily, those who do are usually the ones you see who are successfully weened off their medications and continue to maintain a positive mental state by abiding by new, better habits instead of the older habits.

Note*: I'm generalizing throughout.

Our answer to problems is to blame the individual. If a fish is out of water don't put it back, but drive a cannula into its veins and pump it oxygenated blood. We treat people so they are functional in their environment, but maybe they should be dysfunctional, and maybe we shouldn't support that environment. Over one in ten Americans is on antidepressants I read. How did we ever cope in the past?
In the past we didn't live in a dysfunctional society.

Stumbled over an interesting theory recently. Apparently, an underdeveloped amygdala is correlated with mental issues, such as narcissism and an inability to properly judge risk. And the amygdala is stimulated by adversity. Thus, a safe society breeds insanity.

If this is true it would explain most of the problems in modern societies. The increasing number of people on prescription drugs, the rise in mental problems over the decades, the fact that global warming is not being laughed out of polite conversation, the focus on political correctness over facts.

It also follows that the younger someone is the more likely they are to be mentally handicapped in this manner. And since the mind becomes less malleable with age, one could hypothesize that past a certain age there is no helping them.

That's very interesting.  Do you know where you came across this theory?  I would love to take a look at it :)
I suspect you wouldn't like the source. But given your background, look up r/K selection theory and work your way from there.

I don't care about the source inasmuch as I'm concerned about the merit of the ideas.  The source becomes more important to me if the ideas stem from methods that I don't fully understand.
Alright. PM sent.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Daanie on November 28, 2014, 11:45:01 PM
It truly amazes me how a troll can get a discussion like this going. Applaus


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: PhattyBanks on November 29, 2014, 12:16:58 AM
are you dutch or afrikans?


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: the joint on November 29, 2014, 12:56:00 AM
It truly amazes me how a troll can get a discussion like this going. Applaus

Wisdom can't afford the luxury of assuming that someone claiming suicidal ideation is a troll.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: ShetKid on November 29, 2014, 01:08:18 AM
Dude don't put your life in bitcoins or gambling, that's just stupid and will put your life at risk.

I recommend to sell the bitcoins back and live a normal life.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Samix on November 29, 2014, 09:34:09 AM
All my life savings is in bitcoin , I even sold my son's bike to buy bitcoin.
My mental health is based on the btc market. So I'm very bipolar.
Today was a very depressed day , I tried to kill myself but now I'm a bit better.
For now I just lay in bed with a bottle of wisky trying to sleep.

Does anyone know if there is a small change we ever see 1000$ again?

thank you

dont put your whole earnings of life to btc lol

Juxt put some of your earnings to btc and dont gamble just save it !

and for now remember `just not to be yourself `  think about your family :) buddy


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on November 29, 2014, 09:46:05 AM
All my life savings is in bitcoin , I even sold my son's bike to buy bitcoin.
My mental health is based on the btc market. So I'm very bipolar.
Today was a very depressed day , I tried to kill myself but now I'm a bit better.
For now I just lay in bed with a bottle of wisky trying to sleep.

Does anyone know if there is a small change we ever see 1000$ again?

thank you

dont put your whole earnings of life to btc lol

Juxt put some of your earnings to btc and dont gamble just save it !

and for now remember `just not to be yourself `  think about your family :) buddy

He's trolling, so he didn't actually do it. :\ Look at the other posts he's made throughout the forum


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Samix on November 29, 2014, 09:48:11 AM
All my life savings is in bitcoin , I even sold my son's bike to buy bitcoin.
My mental health is based on the btc market. So I'm very bipolar.
Today was a very depressed day , I tried to kill myself but now I'm a bit better.
For now I just lay in bed with a bottle of wisky trying to sleep.

Does anyone know if there is a small change we ever see 1000$ again?

thank you

dont put your whole earnings of life to btc lol

Juxt put some of your earnings to btc and dont gamble just save it !

and for now remember `just not to be yourself `  think about your family :) buddy

He's trolling, so he didn't actually do it. :\ Look at the other posts he's made throughout the forum

ah juxt realized after the post :P


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: algo3 on November 29, 2014, 11:40:49 AM
All my life savings is in bitcoin , I even sold my son's bike to buy bitcoin.
My mental health is based on the btc market. So I'm very bipolar.
Today was a very depressed day , I tried to kill myself but now I'm a bit better.
For now I just lay in bed with a bottle of wisky trying to sleep.

Does anyone know if there is a small change we ever see 1000$ again?

thank you

dont put your whole earnings of life to btc lol

Juxt put some of your earnings to btc and dont gamble just save it !

and for now remember `just not to be yourself `  think about your family :) buddy

He's trolling, so he didn't actually do it. :\ Look at the other posts he's made throughout the forum
yeah, most likely a typical troll


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: BlindMayorBitcorn on November 29, 2014, 01:20:46 PM
All my life savings is in bitcoin , I even sold my son's bike to buy bitcoin.
My mental health is based on the btc market. So I'm very bipolar.
Today was a very depressed day , I tried to kill myself but now I'm a bit better.
For now I just lay in bed with a bottle of wisky trying to sleep.

Does anyone know if there is a small change we ever see 1000$ again?

thank you

dont put your whole earnings of life to btc lol

Juxt put some of your earnings to btc and dont gamble just save it !

and for now remember `just not to be yourself `  think about your family :) buddy

He's trolling, so he didn't actually do it. :\ Look at the other posts he's made throughout the forum
yeah, most likely a typical troll

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Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on November 29, 2014, 05:39:02 PM
All my life savings is in bitcoin , I even sold my son's bike to buy bitcoin.
My mental health is based on the btc market. So I'm very bipolar.
Today was a very depressed day , I tried to kill myself but now I'm a bit better.
For now I just lay in bed with a bottle of wisky trying to sleep.

Does anyone know if there is a small change we ever see 1000$ again?

thank you

dont put your whole earnings of life to btc lol

Juxt put some of your earnings to btc and dont gamble just save it !

and for now remember `just not to be yourself `  think about your family :) buddy

He's trolling, so he didn't actually do it. :\ Look at the other posts he's made throughout the forum

ah juxt realized after the post :P

Props for being a good guy though :) People really shouldn't joke about suicide though.


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: Igdehi on November 30, 2014, 02:36:09 AM
I have a an advice for you...you shouldn't  bed rest but you should sell all your btc on the BTC market...maybe some people will buy them! GOOD LUCK!  :)


Title: Re: becoming suicidal
Post by: jodybay on January 29, 2016, 09:42:10 AM
and now dank has become a preacher who was a drug user before lol
a lot of things happen here since i've left this forum
whats up guys