Bitcoin Forum

Other => Politics & Society => Topic started by: Argwai96 on November 25, 2014, 02:35:50 AM



Title: Police Officer not indicted in the shooting of Michael Brown
Post by: Argwai96 on November 25, 2014, 02:35:50 AM
The MSM is reporting that Officer Wilson was not indicted in the shooting of Michael Brown.

Do you think this is fair? Do you think racist leaders like Al Sharpton and President Obama will cause civil unrest in Fuegerson and elsewhere in the country?


Title: Re: Police Officer not indicted in the shooting of Michael Brown
Post by: TheButterZone on November 25, 2014, 02:40:13 AM
indicted (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indictment)


Title: Re: Police Officer not indicted in the shooting of Michael Brown
Post by: UnunoctiumTesticles on November 25, 2014, 04:31:47 AM
The physical evidence merely confirms that he was facing forward, which is consistent with the witness who said he was falling forward with his hands under his belly as he had already been shot. The audio recording confirms there was a pause, then more shots fired.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Michael_Brown

It is clear that Brown caused his own demise and was at fault. However, it is also very likely that the officer proceeded to murder him after he was already sufficiently wounded and falling to the ground.

Police officers are dealing with the following statistic.

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6160

Quote
That 2% is responsible for almost all of 52% of U.S. homicides. Or, to put it differently, by these figures a young black or “mixed” male is roughly 26 times more likely to be a homicidal threat than a random person outside that category – older or younger blacks, whites, hispanics, females, whatever. If the young male is unambiguously black that figure goes up, about doubling.

26 times more likely.

I agree with the non-indictment because this officer is a product of the training and culture of the militarized "peace" officers we have now in the USA (http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=767&Itemid=74&jumival=10231). It is not his personal doing, but rather an outcome of how he has been trained to act and the culture of the system we have now.

As the USA economy turns down after 2015.75 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=365141.msg9628833#msg9628833), we are going to see in the USA an increase in violence, police killings, and rioting. This will escalate and not be a one-time event.



Title: Re: Police Officer not indicted in the shooting of Michael Brown
Post by: saddampbuh on November 25, 2014, 09:48:53 AM
correct decision, if a 300 pound black bastard is running to attack me i'm going to shoot him


Title: Re: Police Officer not indicted in the shooting of Michael Brown
Post by: BitMos on November 25, 2014, 03:27:48 PM
Night identification need improvements (in every tragedy there is an opportunity)... btw and to take the comment of the previous poster one node further, I am more shocked by the killing of the 12 years old with his plastic gun... What do parents teach to their kids nowadays!!! Aiming a cop with a gun that looks like a real one... The parents are guilty. Like you said 300 pounds ain't teenager in my book anymore. It's what happen when the cult of being a great bully is accepted by "the community" (to use the word of the community organizer in chief)... meets iron and steel. There is more blood spilling everyday in - out of pockets of 100 of thousands of market participants... no act of violence is tolerated. NO CONTACT.


Title: Re: Police Officer not indicted in the shooting of Michael Brown
Post by: RodeoX on November 25, 2014, 03:35:33 PM
The MSM is reporting that Officer Wilson was not indicted in the shooting of Michael Brown.

Do you think this is fair? Do you think racist leaders like Al Sharpton and President Obama will cause civil unrest in Fuegerson and elsewhere in the country?

You mean like you?


Title: Re: Police Officer not indicted in the shooting of Michael Brown
Post by: BitMos on November 25, 2014, 03:57:25 PM
you didn't answer his question. Sleazy lazy lying RodeoX, man up, answer or you are too afraid? Afraid to not tell what the great community organizer told you to say? (btw you could have better notes...).

as a reminder :

Do you think this is fair?

(to help you I put some coloring)


Title: Re: Police Officer not indicted in the shooting of Michael Brown
Post by: RodeoX on November 25, 2014, 04:54:07 PM
you didn't answer his question. Sleazy lazy lying RodeoX, man up, answer or you are too afraid? Afraid to not tell what the great community organizer told you to say? (btw you could have better notes...).

as a reminder :

Do you think this is fair?

(to help you I put some coloring)

Oh, ok. Well, last night I was giving Obama a big wet kiss and he was telling me what to think when all of the sudden we saw a white cop! So we yelled "Panther Power" and raised our fists. It was awesome! I can't wait until his third term. We have plans to come to your house, take your guns, and force you into a gay marriage.

Do I think the verdict was fair? Sure, I have no reason to believe otherwise.


Title: Re: Police Officer not indicted in the shooting of Michael Brown
Post by: Ron~Popeil on November 25, 2014, 07:34:35 PM
I don't know enough about the evidence to state one way or the other, but burning down your own neighborhood is not the way to send a message. Hopefully things calm down quickly now that the legal process is concluded. 


Title: Re: Police Officer not indicted in the shooting of Michael Brown
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on November 25, 2014, 11:41:50 PM
It's interesting to say the least
The fact that there were 9 white members of the jury and 3 black members
With 9 needed to reach the majority does say something

If they wanted a gender neutral trial should have went with 2 to 3 asians 2 to 3 blacks 2 to 3 hispanics 2 to 3 whites and two to three africans
That way no one would be able to say there was a jury bias based on race or gender.


Title: Re: Police Officer not indicted in the shooting of Michael Brown
Post by: devphp on November 26, 2014, 09:40:20 AM
It's interesting to say the least
The fact that there were 9 white members of the jury and 3 black members
With 9 needed to reach the majority does say something

If they wanted a gender neutral trial should have went with 2 to 3 asians 2 to 3 blacks 2 to 3 hispanics 2 to 3 whites and two to three africans
That way no one would be able to say there was a jury bias based on race or gender.

How about the proportion of races is based upon (un)employment figures, the more each race contributes to country's GDP, the more weight it should have in the voting, sort of Proof-of-Employment(Work) system, wouldn't that be more fair? :)


Title: Re: Police Officer not indicted in the shooting of Michael Brown
Post by: deluxeCITY on November 28, 2014, 11:01:35 PM
It's interesting to say the least
The fact that there were 9 white members of the jury and 3 black members
With 9 needed to reach the majority does say something

If they wanted a gender neutral trial should have went with 2 to 3 asians 2 to 3 blacks 2 to 3 hispanics 2 to 3 whites and two to three africans
That way no one would be able to say there was a jury bias based on race or gender.
The grand jury members are picked at random. Over time grand juries will have a similar racial and gender markup of the overall community. Grand Juries do not have any kind of affirmative action or qoutas to have each race represented. The officer was also not accused of committing any kind of hate crime so race should really not be an issue.

I don't know enough about the evidence to state one way or the other, but burning down your own neighborhood is not the way to send a message. Hopefully things calm down quickly now that the legal process is concluded. 
+1.


Title: Re: Police Officer not indicted in the shooting of Michael Brown
Post by: stevenh512 on November 30, 2014, 08:51:49 AM
5. He was 150ft away when the officer shot him.
6. The officer could have shot him in the leg(s) prior to head but obviously wanted to kill Michael Brown.

If 5 is true, 6 shouldn't have happened because unless he was armed the officer was not (in my mind) justified in using deadly force. The officer could have just as easily grabbed his pepper spray or taser if he thought this unarmed person 150ft away from him was a threat. If you or I were in the position the police officer was in, even without us being armed with "less lethal" weapons, we'd be facing a murder charge if we opened fire on him and would rightly be convicted and serve life in prison, if not the death penalty.