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Title: can we ban ripple?
Post by: balu2 on December 18, 2014, 02:18:14 AM
It's spamming the forum and it's not even  real cryptocurrency.
Do we need to support a private cooperation and give them space for free advertising in the forum?


Title: Re: can we ban ripple?
Post by: b!z on December 18, 2014, 06:46:01 AM
Why not?


Title: Re: can we ban ripple?
Post by: redsn0w on December 18, 2014, 08:07:20 AM
It's spamming the forum and it's not even  real cryptocurrency.
Do we need to support a private cooperation and give them space for free advertising in the forum?

I don't think all topics related with ripple will be deleted  ~ the forum is "free" .


Title: Re: can we ban ripple?
Post by: krunox123 on December 18, 2014, 08:11:06 AM
Ripple is not real? lol ???


Title: Re: can we ban ripple?
Post by: SaltySpitoon on December 18, 2014, 08:13:37 AM
Can we ban ripple? Yes
Are we going to? No


Title: Re: can we ban ripple?
Post by: redsn0w on December 18, 2014, 08:13:59 AM
Ripple is not real? lol ???

I think he meant  : it is not a real crypto currency , and I think he is right .


Title: Re: can we ban ripple?
Post by: krunox123 on December 18, 2014, 08:22:08 AM
Ripple is not real? lol ???

I think he meant  : it is not a real crypto currency , and I think he is right .
I see.. :)


Title: Re: can we ban ripple?
Post by: zetaray on December 18, 2014, 08:27:30 AM
We don't need to ban ripple, we only need to move all ripple threads back to the alts forum.


Title: Re: can we ban ripple?
Post by: balu2 on December 18, 2014, 10:23:14 AM
exactly that's the point: it's not even decentral crypto.

So can i now go out in the forum and sell my own premined and central coin which isn't even crypto to people here and i can hire 10 people to actually spam my product all over the place?

It's a freakin' company, not a decentral cryptocurrency

Can i now advertise my own private company which accidently happens to have premined tokens for sale?

So can we trade all tokens then?
Magic cards for paypal?
Pokerchips for paypal?
Coca Cola for fiat?
Giftcards for fiat?
Theater and cinema tickets for cash?

I thought the forum was dedicated to decentral cryptocurrency?

I am a bit irritated private companies can use it for free advertisement as much as they want.
If ripple is allowed, bringing in all of consumerism from chocolate to softporn produced and sold by private cooperations should be allowed too as long as a tradeable token is attached. Is it like that?

Forum is not  about cryptocoin but just about tokens of all sorts?

Can we sell literally everything here?


Title: Re: can we ban ripple?
Post by: EFS on December 18, 2014, 01:56:59 PM
We don't need to ban ripple, we only need to move all ripple threads back to the alts forum.

We need to do this exactly. I hate to see ripple related messages everywhere in Bitcoin boards. Lock them to Altcoin trashcan.


Title: Re: can we ban ripple?
Post by: balu2 on December 18, 2014, 02:11:24 PM
We don't need to ban ripple, we only need to move all ripple threads back to the alts forum.

We need to do this exactly. I hate to see ripple related messages everywhere in Bitcoin boards. Lock them to Altcoin trashcan.


nobody wants ripple spam in altcoins either.

How about their very own section?


... you know if it was at least crypto - but it isn't...
i really don't see what all the spam is about ...

well, maybe move them all to offtopic?

I think correct handling would be to give them a subforum in offtopic  :)


so let me rephrase from "banning ripple" to "provide them a better space within the forum" :)

possible?


Title: Re: can we ban ripple?
Post by: Kearney52 on December 18, 2014, 03:22:57 PM
i also don't like the ripple  :-\


Title: Re: can we ban ripple?
Post by: TrailingComet on December 20, 2014, 07:56:48 AM
This is the post- banning world. If you don't like someone, don't use them and communicate your rationale so others are also warned


Title: Re: can we ban ripple?
Post by: God27 on December 22, 2014, 03:07:19 AM
It's spamming the forum and it's not even  real cryptocurrency.
Do we need to support a private cooperation and give them space for free advertising in the forum?

I think you mean XRP. I agree that "XRP trolls" have been spamming the forum a lot lately. Im surprised this wasn't moderated more. Do ppl ever report to moderator? Again you're right that the ALT Section hates it just as bad. There should be a vote. :o

However, ripple(the platform, protocol, exchange, wallet, whatever you want to call it) is where some people trade other crypto as well. Some people like it and some people don't.

This forum seems like it has more FUD month after month continusly its not just ripple.


Title: Re: can we ban ripple?
Post by: worhiper_-_ on December 22, 2014, 04:05:01 AM
We don't need to ban ripple, we only need to move all ripple threads back to the alts forum.

We need to do this exactly. I hate to see ripple related messages everywhere in Bitcoin boards. Lock them to Altcoin trashcan.

I also don't like to see good posts with reasonable speculation or any other kind of insightful content being moved to the altcoin section. Because in your own words, it's a trashcan. Experienced forum members usually know which board is the correct one to start a new topic in and often will avoid the altcoin section. So please, don't just move any topic about anything else other than bitcoin to the altcoin section.


Title: Re: can we ban ripple?
Post by: youngmike on December 22, 2014, 02:28:25 PM
Ripple is a nice P&D  :) But it's sucking money out of btc  :) Too bad for those who bag hold btc  :)


Title: Re: can we ban ripple?
Post by: sed on December 23, 2014, 03:38:59 AM
Can we ban ripple? Yes
Are we going to? No

Salty, this answer is succinct, to the point, understandable.  It's also quite terse.  Can you weigh in a bit more about your motivation?  Or some of the ideas posted about providing ripple with it's own subforum or moving it to alts?


Title: Re: can we ban ripple?
Post by: bitpop on December 23, 2014, 02:12:21 PM
Stellar also needs to be banned


Title: Re: can we ban ripple?
Post by: youngmike on December 23, 2014, 05:28:37 PM
How about blocknet? Their EQX implementation failed  :)


Title: Re: can we ban ripple?
Post by: SaltySpitoon on December 23, 2014, 06:04:24 PM
Can we ban ripple? Yes
Are we going to? No

Salty, this answer is succinct, to the point, understandable.  It's also quite terse.  Can you weigh in a bit more about your motivation?  Or some of the ideas posted about providing ripple with it's own subforum or moving it to alts?

As far as its classification, Ripple it is not technically a cryptocurrency, but it is close enough to stay in the Alt Currencies section. Adding new subforums is not done unless it is completely necessary. Unnecessary subdivision makes the forum clunky and cumbersome. It would be like adding an Amazon section for all things having to do with Amazon, an Ebay section, etc. Eventually it would take 30 minutes just to navigate to subforums.

As far as not banning it, we don't ban anything unless it is completely necessary. Censoring technology is a good way to retard growth in related fields. Alt coins explore different options in cryptocurrencies, ripple is another system thats out there doing whatever it is doing. As this is a Bitcoin forum, we won't especially cater to Alt Coins or Ripple, but we will give them the basic courtesy of allowing discussion of them in their own out of the way section (Alt Currencies). I don't care one way or another for ripple, but I think its just fair to let it run its course. Paypal deals in fiat and is a central company, censoring Paypal would be far more appropriate than censoring Ripple, as they have even less to do with the central Bitcoin theme of the forum.

In short, we don't ban/censor anything that doesn't by all accounts need to be banned. The only things that are banned here (that I can think of)
1) Anything illegal in the OP's jurisdiction, baring completely unreasonable laws. If it is illegal to sell your used socks in your country, we probably don't care here.
2) Death threats
3) Spam

The only Alt Coin or anything similar that was ever banned (temporarily) was Scrypt Bitcoin just called Bitcoin but using the Scrypt algorithm. That was because I received a warning from the developer that downloading (Scrypt) Bitcoin could overwrite Bitcoin wallet data if you installed it because they had the same name. That was later tested and found to be untrue, so it was unbanned.


Title: Re: can we ban ripple?
Post by: pureelite on December 25, 2014, 06:16:29 PM
why would they ban it?

if there is a spam thread you can report it to a moderator and he can delete it

if its spam!


Title: Re: can we ban ripple?
Post by: sed on December 28, 2014, 07:23:53 PM
Thanks, Salty, that totally explains the rationale.  'ppreciate the extra keystrokes!


Title: Re: can we ban ripple?
Post by: Sukrim on December 28, 2014, 08:56:43 PM
As far as its classification, Ripple it is not technically a cryptocurrency [...]

Do you have an official checklist or at least some criteria published somewhere for what makes some digital asset a "cryptocurrency"? I'm genuinely interested, since I've seen various discussions about this topic over the years and the results range from "it has to be PoW and anonymously mineable and named Bitcoin" to "the USD on my credit card are trading at a different price than actual USD and secured by crypto, sooo..."


Title: Re: can we ban ripple?
Post by: smoothie on December 28, 2014, 10:27:50 PM
If it were going to happen most all of the trashcoins around would be removed as well.



Title: Re: can we ban ripple?
Post by: sed on December 29, 2014, 03:42:08 PM
As far as its classification, Ripple it is not technically a cryptocurrency [...]

Do you have an official checklist or at least some criteria published somewhere for what makes some digital asset a "cryptocurrency"? I'm genuinely interested, since I've seen various discussions about this topic over the years and the results range from "it has to be PoW and anonymously mineable and named Bitcoin" to "the USD on my credit card are trading at a different price than actual USD and secured by crypto, sooo..."

Sarcasm aside, I think this post has a good question.  The opening paragraph of the wikipedia article about ripple calls it a cryptocurrency.  Salty's use of the adverb "technically" seems to imply that he does have such a list of necessary and sufficient conditions.  I'd like to know more as well.