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Title: Apple company got caught running labor scams
Post by: ijphlrnxewho on December 19, 2014, 02:48:45 AM
Apple company got caught running labor scams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSvT02q4h40


Title: Re: Apple company got caught running labor scams
Post by: Ingatqhvq on December 19, 2014, 10:53:06 AM
It's so ridiculous that the government can't protect their own people.
   


Title: Re: Apple company got caught running labor scams
Post by: Martijnvdc on December 19, 2014, 02:20:31 PM
1) This issue has been known for quite a while, specifically with Foxconn
2) The Chinese government is also responsible for this, they are very aware of these issues, but they decide not to do anything about it, because it keeps Chinese labour cheap. If they lose this unique position, where labour becomes just as expensive as in the US or EU, the country would have to go through major restructuring. The working conditions of the Chinese workers is a problem for China to solve. It would be wrong to blame EVERYTHING on Apple. Ofcourse it's very immoral, and that's what capitalism will do if there is nothing keeping it from doing these things.


Title: Re: Apple company got caught running labor scams
Post by: Aemon on December 19, 2014, 04:36:53 PM
If every big company in the world was really searched through to see what was going on.  I am guessing almost all of them would end up having labor scams going on. 

Plus, if you think about it, is outsourcing really *THAT* much different then labor scams?  I know several large companies here outsource because it is cheaper.  They pay a guy somewhere who barely speaks english because, hey, that is going to save $10,000 a year on salary efforts.


Title: Re: Apple company got caught running labor scams
Post by: exoton on December 20, 2014, 06:31:00 PM
If they have workers sleeping while getting paid then workers are not being productive. Just because someone is sleeping does not mean it is because of anything to do with their job, only that they are tired.

In reference to the working conditions, it is not unusual to ask people to work overnight shifts or to have people stand during their shift, if this is something that is required in order for workers to reach maximum productivity/accuracy then there is no reason to employ people that are not willing to do this. Ironically the pictures/video of workers sleeping all had workers sitting in some kind of chair.

About the taking of ID cards, I would think that workers could simply get them replaced by the issuing authority and to say it was lost/stolen which would be a true thing to say (and I am sure the cards do get lost)