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Title: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: A_CardeN on June 26, 2012, 08:06:51 PM
Title.

Anyone experienced this before?

I try to downclock... got it at 700-725 and it still crashes and gets sick.

Drivers?


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: Mousepotato on June 26, 2012, 08:12:44 PM
The only driver-related problem I know of is when you're running more than 4 GPUs (ie. more than two 5970s) on the same mobo with drivers higher than 11.12.  It'll bluescreen every time.


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: crazyates on June 26, 2012, 08:48:21 PM
Try running both cores at 600,300,0.95 and see what happens.


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: A_CardeN on June 26, 2012, 09:39:59 PM
kk thanks


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: A_CardeN on June 26, 2012, 10:35:35 PM
So far no sickness or failure at 600 core.


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: crazyates on June 27, 2012, 12:42:48 AM
725 is the stock speed. You might need to just keep it underclocked below stock.


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: naz86 on June 27, 2012, 01:07:58 PM
do you have enough power ?


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: A_CardeN on June 27, 2012, 11:14:54 PM
do you have enough power ?

Yes, a PC Power and Cooling 950w PSU with only two 5970 on them.  I cannot clock them over 600 or one of them fails.

Got it from a guy on the forum too, looks like he sold me his dud 5970.


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: Definit on June 28, 2012, 12:00:19 AM
do you have enough power ?

Yes, a PC Power and Cooling 950w PSU with only two 5970 on them.  I cannot clock them over 600 or one of them fails.

Got it from a guy on the forum too, looks like he sold me his dud 5970.

u might need to take it apart, clean off the gpu's and put new thermal paste & pads on it.


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: Definit on June 28, 2012, 12:01:02 AM
and yeah, he sold you his dud that he may have already tried to fix... or didnt attempt to fix atleast, lol


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: GernMiester on June 28, 2012, 12:46:37 AM
What are the temps? Dirty, clogged up heat sinks and fans mess up all kinds of things
Make sure nothing is over clocked before going too crazy troubleshooting stuff. Verify PC BIOS is up to date.
Run a Video card stress test and and look for artifacts to narrow it down to a specific card then swap PCIe slots.
See if the issues follows the card or stays with a PCIe socket.


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: A_CardeN on June 28, 2012, 04:11:33 AM
What are the temps? Dirty, clogged up heat sinks and fans mess up all kinds of things
Make sure nothing is over clocked before going too crazy troubleshooting stuff. Verify PC BIOS is up to date.
Run a Video card stress test and and look for artifacts to narrow it down to a specific card then swap PCIe slots.
See if the issues follows the card or stays with a PCIe socket.

Temps at around 70 per core.

Will try the rest.  Thank you!!


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: mc_lovin on June 29, 2012, 06:02:05 PM
Thermal pads on frozencpu.com:

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7863/thr-49/EK_Replacement_Liquid_Block_Thermal_Pad_60mm_x_50mm_x_05mm_.html

I feel like ordering some right now!


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: Aseras on June 29, 2012, 08:44:32 PM
Thermal pads on frozencpu.com:

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7863/thr-49/EK_Replacement_Liquid_Block_Thermal_Pad_60mm_x_50mm_x_05mm_.html

I feel like ordering some right now!

For the ram sure. For the vrm those are crap and will cause problems.

You need these at least http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g8/c487/s1292/list/p1/Thermal-Thermal_Pads_Tape-Premium_Thermal_Pads-Page1.html

6W/mK minimum for the vrm or it'll throttle like crazy.


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: crazyates on June 29, 2012, 08:50:37 PM
Thermal pads on frozencpu.com:

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7863/thr-49/EK_Replacement_Liquid_Block_Thermal_Pad_60mm_x_50mm_x_05mm_.html

I feel like ordering some right now!

For the ram sure. For the vrm those are crap and will cause problems.

You need these at least http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g8/c487/s1292/list/p1/Thermal-Thermal_Pads_Tape-Premium_Thermal_Pads-Page1.html

6W/mK minimum for the vrm or it'll throttle like crazy.

Enlighten me: what does mK stand for?


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: GernMiester on June 29, 2012, 09:22:03 PM
70 is not very hot as far as GPU's go. GPU-z will let you see voltages and temps not show by some miners. If you have an overheating voltage regulator you may not see it without GPU-z running. Put a fan to really get air flowing with the side cover off. Moving more air may keep the VRM cool, if thats the issue it may run longer than 10 minutes.




Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: rjk on June 29, 2012, 09:51:45 PM
Enlighten me: what does mK stand for?
SI unit of temperature: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millikelvin


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: disclaimer201 on June 30, 2012, 03:38:04 PM
Be careful when removing the card or handling it. One of my older cards showed such symptoms, and when I tried to renew the thermal pads one tiny resistance on the back of the card, which already looked cooked, fell off. Now, I don't get a picture anymore, the fan goes full speed, but the system still appears to be loading in the background. Also, the card doesn't seem to get detected anymore together with another one. Now I wish I had kept my fingers off it and let it run on half speed. But it wasn't the first card I worked on, and I never had issues before that. I'm thinking many months of frying temps will just do that. Again, just be super careful with handling old cards, esp. in smaller cases.


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: AndrewBUD on June 30, 2012, 04:36:41 PM
I am having that EXACT issue with a 5850.. a tiny resistor fell off when I was cleaning it... It was having issues... Would mine for a minute.. temps would go to 127.5 and lock up... the entire rig.


Everything looks perfect on the card except this one tiny transistor.


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: bulanula on June 30, 2012, 04:43:20 PM
Can you two post some pictures of the location of this resistor that keeps falling off ?

Might be helpful for me and others with hot cards liable to "falling resistor" problem !

What temps where you running at BTW, 100 C ?


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: AndrewBUD on June 30, 2012, 04:47:34 PM
no, the temps on this card were good... my cutoff was set @ 90.....


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: bulanula on June 30, 2012, 04:48:53 PM
no, the temps on this card were good... my cutoff was set @ 90.....


Please share a picture because I really am curious about this.

Touched my naked card on some places and I saw myself some of the resistors were damn hot !


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: check_status on June 30, 2012, 04:51:08 PM
I am having that EXACT issue with a 5850.. a tiny resistor fell off when I was cleaning it... It was having issues... Would mine for a minute.. temps would go to 127.5 and lock up... the entire rig.


Everything looks perfect on the card except this one tiny transistor.
Like DNA, which is comprised of 4 heterocyclic bases, there are only 4 electronic components, the resistor, capacitor, transistor and memristor. So which is it that fell off?


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: AndrewBUD on June 30, 2012, 05:09:49 PM
HOLY SHIT....

I JUST TRIED the card after removing the burnt out transistor... AND ITS MINING AGAIN :)


Picture showing transistor that fell off...

Card is now mining at very low settings to see if it sets fire or not :P

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/595/amd5850front.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/411/amd5850front.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: Aseras on June 30, 2012, 08:07:19 PM
That's a capacitor. One of my cards has one melted/cooked up by the power connectors.from someone dropping a screw there between the pcie connectors  Works fine without..


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: bulanula on June 30, 2012, 08:12:16 PM
That's a capacitor. One of my cards has one melted/cooked up by the power connectors.from someone dropping a screw there between the pcie connectors  Works fine without..

If it works fine without then why not include it from the beginning ::)

If anything is missing then you can bet that something is not right with the card when you want to game on it or use it as display card !


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: AndrewBUD on July 01, 2012, 01:10:37 AM
Sorry a Cap then.


Well it won't work properly as a desktop card....

It's running as a half borked 5850...


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: pekv2 on July 01, 2012, 04:51:40 AM
It's running as a half borked 5850...

Haha, im lmao @ that statement. I'm def, siggying this.


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: AndrewBUD on July 01, 2012, 12:36:42 PM
lol....

does 157mhash/s :( without crashing... was too tired last night to screw with it any.....


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: zvs on July 01, 2012, 03:46:29 PM
Title.

Anyone experienced this before?

I try to downclock... got it at 700-725 and it still crashes and gets sick.

Drivers?

i had one that was doing this about 2-3 days ago

it went pretty quickly from being stable at 810/150 @ 1.010v to 720/150 @ 0.990v to 600/150 @ 0.95v

then i decided to try to go to 650/150 @ 0.950v, it crashed.  powered computer off & on (is there some way in linux to not have to do that when a card crashes?? wtf), and now it won't even run at 550/150.  it says 0.00mhash/s, but it does get like the whole 'new work' messages and stuff.

that room is too hot, and i've been too lazy to take it out of the computer.  besides, the 1st gpu can run at 850/150 @ 1.050v now, since the 2nd gpu isnt giving off any heat


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: AndrewBUD on July 01, 2012, 05:08:05 PM
I am about to screw with RBE and edit the bios a bit... get it stuck on 2d clocks and it'll be fine :)


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: pekv2 on July 01, 2012, 05:23:40 PM
I am about to screw with RBE and edit the bios a bit... get it stuck on 2d clocks and it'll be fine :)

Hey, gotta milk the crap out it, what ever works. Sucks to hear that the card works like so but gotta admit, I even tease my father for milking his vehicle, oh gawd the laughter though we have.


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: AndrewBUD on July 01, 2012, 06:33:36 PM
Thing is pissing me off...Seems to work sometimes.


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: disclaimer201 on July 01, 2012, 10:33:55 PM
perhaps it's time to let it die... at least this way the costs for your time spent on maintenance doesn't skyrocket. possibly could try to repair one single card for days. rip my beloved 5870. you paid yourself off months ago.


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: pekv2 on July 01, 2012, 10:36:17 PM
Thing is pissing me off...Seems to work sometimes.

I wonder if you have a tv repair shop in you neighborhood, find out the info on the resistor or cap that fell off, have the tv repair man solder it on.

Prob nearly 20 bucks to do it. And the part is probably only a few bucks.


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: AndrewBUD on July 01, 2012, 11:36:24 PM
I asked on the market place if anyone has a reference 5850 with a dead fan they want to part with.


I don't want to put the work in to fixing it... I bought this card new in 2009 :P


Title: Re: 5970 getting 'sick' and dying after 10 minutes of mining.
Post by: rjk on July 02, 2012, 12:32:01 PM
A cap falling off or being removed might not result in immediate damage, but the one you pointed out is in the power regulation section of the card, on one of the power phases. I wouldn't be surprised if it was crashing due to unsteady regulation or spikes.