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Title: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: Raoul Duke on June 30, 2012, 07:11:35 AM
Taken from: http://www.wariscrime.com/2012/05/15/news/the-rap-music-conspiracy/


After more than 20 years, I’ve finally decided to tell the world what I witnessed in 1991, which I believe was one of the biggest turning point in popular music, and ultimately American society.

I have struggled for a long time weighing the pros and cons of making this story public as I was reluctant to implicate the individuals who were present that day. So I’ve simply decided to leave out names and all the details that may risk my personal well being and that of those who were, like me, dragged into something they weren’t ready for.

Between the late 80′s and early 90’s, I was what you may call a “decision maker” with one of the more established company in the music industry. I came from Europe in the early 80’s and quickly established myself in the business.

The industry was different back then. Since technology and media weren’t accessible to people like they are today, the industry had more control over the public and had the means to influence them anyway it wanted. This may explain why, in early 1991, I was invited to attend a closed door meeting with a small group of music business insiders to discuss rap music’s new direction. Little did I know that we would be asked to participate in one of the most unethical and destructive business practice I’ve ever seen.

The meeting was held at a private residence on the outskirts of Los Angeles. I remember about 25 to 30 people being there, most of them familiar faces. Speaking to those I knew, we joked about the theme of the meeting as many of us did not care for rap music and failed to see the purpose of being invited to a private gathering to discuss its future.

Among the attendees was a small group of unfamiliar faces who stayed to themselves and made no attempt to socialize beyond their circle. Based on their behavior and formal appearances, they didn’t seem to be in our industry.

Our casual chatter was interrupted when we were asked to sign a confidentiality agreement preventing us from publicly discussing the information presented during the meeting. Needless to say, this intrigued and in some cases disturbed many of us.

The agreement was only a page long but very clear on the matter and consequences which stated that violating the terms would result in job termination. We asked several people what this meeting was about and the reason for such secrecy but couldn’t find anyone who had answers for us. A few people refused to sign and walked out. No one stopped them. I was tempted to follow but curiosity got the best of me. A man who was part of the “unfamiliar” group collected the agreements from us.

Quickly after the meeting began, one of my industry colleagues (who shall remain nameless like everyone else) thanked us for attending. He then gave the floor to a man who only introduced himself by first name and gave no further details about his personal background. I think he was the owner of the residence but it was never confirmed.

He briefly praised all of us for the success we had achieved in our industry and congratulated us for being selected as part of this small group of “decision makers”. At this point I begin to feel slightly uncomfortable at the strangeness of this gathering.

The subject quickly changed as the speaker went on to tell us that the respective companies we represented had invested in a very profitable industry which could become even more rewarding with our active involvement. He explained that the companies we work for had invested millions into the building of privately owned prisons and that our positions of influence in the music industry would actually impact the profitability of these investments.

I remember many of us in the group immediately looking at each other in confusion. At the time, I didn’t know what a private prison was but I wasn’t the only one. Sure enough, someone asked what these prisons were and what any of this had to do with us. We were told that these prisons were built by privately owned companies who received funding from the government based on the number of inmates. The more inmates, the more money the government would pay these prisons.

It was also made clear to us that since these prisons are privately owned, as they become publicly traded, we’d be able to buy shares. Most of us were taken back by this. Again, a couple of people asked what this had to do with us. At this point, my industry colleague who had first opened the meeting took the floor again and answered our questions.

He told us that since our employers had become silent investors in this prison business, it was now in their interest to make sure that these prisons remained filled. Our job would be to help make this happen by marketing music which promotes criminal behavior, rap being the music of choice.

He assured us that this would be a great situation for us because rap music was becoming an increasingly profitable market for our companies, and as employee, we’d also be able to buy personal stocks in these prisons.

Immediately, silence came over the room. You could have heard a pin drop. I remember looking around to make sure I wasn’t dreaming and saw half of the people with dropped jaws. My daze was interrupted when someone shouted, “Is this a f****** joke?” At this point things became chaotic.

Two of the men who were part of the “unfamiliar” group grabbed the man who shouted out and attempted to remove him from the house. A few of us, myself included, tried to intervene. One of them pulled out a gun and we all backed off. They separated us from the crowd and all four of us were escorted outside.

My industry colleague who had opened the meeting earlier hurried out to meet us and reminded us that we had signed agreement and would suffer the consequences of speaking about this publicly or even with those who attended the meeting. I asked him why he was involved with something this corrupt and he replied that it was bigger than the music business and nothing we’d want to challenge without risking consequences.

We all protested and as he walked back into the house I remember word for word the last thing he said, “It’s out of my hands now. Remember you signed an agreement.” He then closed the door behind him. The men rushed us to our cars and actually watched until we drove off.

A million things were going through my mind as I drove away and I eventually decided to pull over and park on a side street in order to collect my thoughts. I replayed everything in my mind repeatedly and it all seemed very surreal to me.

I was angry with myself for not having taken a more active role in questioning what had been presented to us. I’d like to believe the shock of it all is what suspended my better nature. After what seemed like an eternity, I was able to calm myself enough to make it home. I didn’t talk or call anyone that night.

The next day back at the office, I was visibly out of it but blamed it on being under the weather. No one else in my department had been invited to the meeting and I felt a sense of guilt for not being able to share what I had witnessed. I thought about contacting the three others who wear kicked out of the house but I didn’t remember their names and thought that tracking them down would probably bring unwanted attention.

I considered speaking out publicly at the risk of losing my job but I realized I’d probably be jeopardizing more than my job and I wasn’t willing to risk anything happening to my family. I thought about those men with guns and wondered who they were.

I had been told that this was bigger than the music business and all I could do was let my imagination run free. There were no answers and no one to talk to. I tried to do a little bit of research on private prisons but didn’t uncover anything about the music business’ involvement. However, the information I did find confirmed how dangerous this prison business really was.

Days turned into weeks and weeks into months. Eventually, it was as if the meeting had never taken place. It all seemed surreal. I became more reclusive and stopped going to any industry events unless professionally obligated to do so. On two occasions, I found myself attending the same function as my former colleague. Both times, our eyes met but nothing more was exchanged.

As the months passed, rap music had definitely changed direction. I was never a fan of it but even I could tell the difference. Rap acts that talked about politics or harmless fun were quickly fading away as gangster rap started dominating the airwaves.

Only a few months had passed since the meeting but I suspect that the ideas presented that day had been successfully implemented. It was as if the order has been given to all major label executives. The music was climbing the charts and most companies were more than happy to capitalize on it. Each one was churning out their very own gangster rap acts on an assembly line.

Everyone bought into it, consumers included. Violence and drug use became a central theme in most rap music. I spoke to a few of my peers in the industry to get their opinions on the new trend but was told repeatedly that it was all about supply and demand. Sadly many of them even expressed that the music reinforced their prejudice of minorities.

I officially quit the music business in 1993, but my heart had already left months before. I broke ties with the majority of my peers and removed myself from this thing I had once loved. I took some time off, returned to Europe for a few years, settled out of state, and lived a “quiet” life away from the world of entertainment.

As the years passed, I managed to keep my secret, fearful of sharing it with the wrong person but also a little ashamed of not having had the balls to blow the whistle. But as rap got worse, my guilt grew. Fortunately, in the late 90’s, having the internet as a resource which wasn’t at my disposal in the early days made it easier for me to investigate what is now labeled the prison industrial complex.

Now that I have a greater understanding of how private prisons operate, things make much more sense than they ever have. I see how the criminalization of rap music played a big part in promoting racial stereotypes and misguided so many impressionable young minds into adopting these glorified criminal behaviors which often lead to incarceration.

Twenty years of guilt is a heavy load to carry but the least I can do now is to share my story, hoping that fans of rap music realize how they’ve been used for the past two decades. Although I plan on remaining anonymous for obvious reasons, my goal now is to get this information out to as many people as possible.

Please help me spread the word. Hopefully, others who attended the meeting back in 1991 will be inspired by this and tell their own stories. Most importantly, if only one life has been touched by my story, I pray it makes the weight of my guilt a little more tolerable.

Taken from: http://www.wariscrime.com/2012/05/15/news/the-rap-music-conspiracy/
Some nice comments in there.

Alll I can say is: this shit's insane :o


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: bb113 on June 30, 2012, 07:24:56 AM
That's a new one. It reminds me somewhat of a chain email, but at the same time I find it oddly plausible.


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: stochastic on June 30, 2012, 08:47:06 AM
I prefer the new direction, 80s rap is wack.


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: Raoul Duke on June 30, 2012, 12:26:30 PM
That's a new one. It reminds me somewhat of a chain email, but at the same time I find it oddly plausible.

So do I, and that's what scares me.


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: paraipan on June 30, 2012, 12:57:05 PM
That's a new one. It reminds me somewhat of a chain email, but at the same time I find it oddly plausible.

So do I, and that's what scares me.

TL;DR version anyone ?


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: ribuck on June 30, 2012, 01:08:06 PM
I find it oddly plausible.
However, the real reason is even more "oddly plausible".

The increases in benefits paid to single mothers led to a huge increase in the number of children, particularly african-american children, being raised by only one parent.

Being raised by a single parent is correlated with many kinds of deprivation, social failure and economic failure.

And when those children reached the age at which they became rap musicians, well, the nature of rap music changed.

Anyway, at least the conspiracy didn't get to Juice Media Rap News (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xm0HNbvtgQ)!


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: Raoul Duke on June 30, 2012, 01:10:15 PM
That's a new one. It reminds me somewhat of a chain email, but at the same time I find it oddly plausible.

So do I, and that's what scares me.

TL;DR version anyone ?

Rap music that glorifies criminal behaviour is a plan from the Prison Industrial Complex, with the Record Labels conivence, to fill up the US private prisons, thus earning a lot of money to the conspirators.

But really, read it. The TL;DR version doesn't cut it.


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: Kluge on June 30, 2012, 01:14:48 PM
If the prisons were publicly listed as the author claimed (technically, I think he only claimed a guy said "they would" become publicly-listed), this could be very easy to verify. Annual SEC Proxy Statements (form DEF 14a) require disclosure of 5%+ shareholders, though maybe they could get around this by owning only preferred shares? Idunno. If someone were interested, run a search on the SEC publishing website for some different websites and see if you can find connections between prisons and the music industry.

Looked up CXW for the Hell of it. Earliest 14A form EDGAR has is from '99. All significant shareholders are in construction, finance, or medicine/psychology. Didn't see any connection to the music industry, but it's one of many, and maybe the music industry was already out of prisons in the late 90s. I don't have the patience/time to search through all the sheets.


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: knight22 on July 08, 2012, 02:58:52 PM
This is totally and sadly make sense to me  :-[


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: Ragnar17 on July 09, 2012, 01:04:07 AM
"bigger than the music business"

Pullin' the moral call on you in the workplace...classic. Stay away from anyone that looks for the "bigger" goal. These guys always think that they can force their beliefs because they are omnicient and they know they are right.

Anyway finding a good rap artist is like finding a good dubstep song...very hard


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: Brunic on July 09, 2012, 08:55:39 PM
What the f*** are you doing with private prisons in the first place? :o


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: Raoul Duke on July 09, 2012, 08:58:49 PM
What the f*** are you doing with private prisons in the first place? :o

That's an excelent question and one I've asked myself many times.
The only satisfactory answer I could find was: Crazy Americans! ::)


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: myrkul on July 09, 2012, 09:21:44 PM
What the f*** are you doing with private prisons in the first place? :o

That's an excelent question and one I've asked myself many times.
The only satisfactory answer I could find was: Crazy Americans! ::)

Not far off. Our wacky concept of what "privatization" means here in the US is probably to blame.


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: Ragnar17 on July 09, 2012, 09:47:17 PM
Agree with the crazy stupid americans...and Im american.

America was supposed to be the only country founded on individuals yet "we" are the the majority who do not understand what that even means.


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: Brunic on July 09, 2012, 10:45:25 PM
Woah guys, the problem is bigger than rap music. I mean, if a couple of dudes own a prison, they own the people in it, and I don't know how you call somebody owned by somebody else, but I call that slaves.

Do you have forced labor in American prisons? Or work under the minimal working conditions(like salary under the minimal salary)? If so, those prison owners just found a loophole to get themselves the cheapest labor on earth. Usually, the law is made that if you break it, you go to prison to repay your debt toward society. But wow, if you break the US law, you become the property of somebody for a certain amount of time. That's completely insane!





Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: myrkul on July 09, 2012, 10:49:43 PM
Woah guys, the problem is bigger than rap music. I mean, if a couple of dudes own a prison, they own the people in it, and I don't know how you call somebody owned by somebody else, but I call that slaves.

Do you have forced labor in American prisons? Or work under the minimal working conditions(like salary under the minimal salary)? If so, those prison owners just found a loophole to get themselves the cheapest labor on earth. Usually, the law is made that if you break it, you go to prison to repay your debt toward society. But wow, if you break the US law, you become the property of somebody for a certain amount of time. That's completely insane!

Yup! You hit the nail on the head, there. We didn't make slavery illegal, we just moved inside the walls of the prisons. At least it's (mostly) equal opportunity.


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: Raoul Duke on July 09, 2012, 11:02:58 PM
Woah guys, the problem is bigger than rap music. I mean, if a couple of dudes own a prison, they own the people in it, and I don't know how you call somebody owned by somebody else, but I call that slaves.

Do you have forced labor in American prisons? Or work under the minimal working conditions(like salary under the minimal salary)? If so, those prison owners just found a loophole to get themselves the cheapest labor on earth. Usually, the law is made that if you break it, you go to prison to repay your debt toward society. But wow, if you break the US law, you become the property of somebody for a certain amount of time. That's completely insane!


It gets even worse. They get paid to own those prisioners. Paid by the government.
How about that? Government subsidized slavery...


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: yogi on July 09, 2012, 11:05:04 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/Prisoner_population_rate_UN_HDR_2007_2008.PNG/640px-Prisoner_population_rate_UN_HDR_2007_2008.PNG

Taken from Wikipedia.


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: myrkul on July 09, 2012, 11:20:36 PM

Not only highest per capita, but highest in absolute numbers, too, by a good margin.


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: Brunic on July 10, 2012, 12:00:00 AM
I can't believe this...

It's not about gun control, Obamacare or abortion anymore. Those issues seems almost trivial compared to the problems those private prisons represent. Their market is the 300 millions US citizens, and like every business, they want to grow in their market. Naturally, by the business logic, they'll work toward gaining new prisoners to grow. If the current laws don't bring enough prisoners, they just have to lobby new laws because of the "new dangerous criminal everywhere!".

Also, it means you're not going to develop rehabilitation programs to prevent criminals from doing crimes again. You need these guys to commit crimes so you get them back. You're surely not going to educate them towards higher achievements.

You don't even have maximum prison time, and you have death penalty. That means those guys own buildings where there's no maximum of time you are forced to spend there, and where they have the tools to end your life.

It's a complete perversion of law, and I can't believe it's happening in a democracy like the US. I'm seriously horrified at what the consequences of this could be in one generation or two. You already have the worldwide record of prisoners and from what the article say, it's been running for just 20 years.

I'm so happy I'm not a US citizen...





Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: myrkul on July 10, 2012, 12:03:09 AM
I can't believe this...

I'm so happy I'm not a US citizen...

... and now you know why I'm an anarchist. :)


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: yogi on July 10, 2012, 12:08:13 AM
Also, it means you're not going to develop rehabilitation programs to prevent criminals from doing crimes again.

A dehabilitation program would drive up $$$ profits!


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: westkybitcoins on July 10, 2012, 03:39:36 AM
I can't believe this...

It's not about gun control, Obamacare or abortion anymore. Those issues seems almost trivial compared to the problems those private prisons represent.

Now you know what those of us in the know, who understand just how unbelievably, insanely corrupt the governments in the U.S. are (with the Feds being the worst) are up against.


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Their market is the 300 millions US citizens, and like every business, they want to grow in their market. Naturally, by the business logic, they'll work toward gaining new prisoners to grow. If the current laws don't bring enough prisoners, they just have to lobby new laws because of the "new dangerous criminal everywhere!".

They are already doing this. They literally lobby for new laws, for harsher laws, for all of it.

Tell the average U.S. citizen on the street, and they'll either deny it and call you a "crazy conspiracy theorist", or shrug and keep walking.


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Also, it means you're not going to develop rehabilitation programs to prevent criminals from doing crimes again. You need these guys to commit crimes so you get them back. You're surely not going to educate them towards higher achievements.

You don't even have maximum prison time, and you have death penalty. That means those guys own buildings where there's no maximum of time you are forced to spend there, and where they have the tools to end your life.

Yep.


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It's a complete perversion of law, and I can't believe it's happening in a democracy like the US. I'm seriously horrified at what the consequences of this could be in one generation or two. You already have the worldwide record of prisoners and from what the article say, it's been running for just 20 years.

This is just the tip of the iceberg of the corruption that exists behind the scenes in the U.S. I am not kidding. And the reason it's gotten to the level it has, right under the nose of the populace, is because (1) they're convinced that the holy, omnipotent sugar-daddy U.S. government (and by proxy of course, them) is righteous and infallible, and (2) those who would be educated enough to understand it all waste time fighting over implementing their pet government programs, essentially rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.


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I'm so happy I'm not a US citizen...

Unfortunately, the fallout from all of this already reaches far across the globe (Afghanistan being a prime example.) And the worst is yet to come.


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: sadpandatech on July 10, 2012, 04:09:45 AM
Thanks for sharing this, PSY.  I'm not totally convinced of the origins of 'gangsta' rap and private prisons being so closely intertwined. But it certainly can't be denied that encouraging illicit beahviour is in their benefit, without a doubt. I have seen a few interviews with some of the rappers who refused to go along with what the industry was wanting them to do. And there feelings on it very closely matched this story.

Some scary shit. Our gov in its infinite wisdom allows privatizing prisons to save a few tax dollars having to run them themselves. Meanwhile the very people who proposed the idea are conspiring to bilk the gov for every penny they can.





I can bet if you dig deeper on those companies that hold shares in the private prisons you will find it is not as innocuous as it appears on the surface. I could be wrong but I'd be willing to place money on it if you dig a bit deeper you will find those in control of some of those vested companies are former CEO's, directors, friends, etc with some affiliation to either the music industry or private prison companies.

The revolving doors are everywhere. In every branch of government and every corporation on the planet!

a lil snip that demonstrates this a bit with lobbyist;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKFkuSuZYYE


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: Garr255 on July 10, 2012, 04:40:50 AM
This is insane, and has somehow led me to read about government policies for about an hour...

Anyway finding a good rap artist is like finding a good dubstep song...very hard

Not necessarily a good dubstep song, but here's some dubstepish stuff.

16k hot off the press (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9542654/MvxTest.exe) ;)


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: myrkul on July 10, 2012, 04:54:51 AM
This is insane, and has somehow led me to read about government policies for about an hour...

Anyway finding a good rap artist is like finding a good dubstep song...very hard

Not necessarily a good dubstep song, but here's some dubstepish stuff.

16k hot off the press (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9542654/MvxTest.exe) ;)

Suspicious .exe is suspicious.


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: sadpandatech on July 10, 2012, 04:59:11 AM
This is insane, and has somehow led me to read about government policies for about an hour...

Anyway finding a good rap artist is like finding a good dubstep song...very hard

Not necessarily a good dubstep song, but here's some dubstepish stuff.

16k hot off the press (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9542654/MvxTest.exe) ;)

Suspicious .exe is suspicious.

no doubt. something you made with this? http://www.farbrausch.de/~fg/kkrunchy/

edit; gonna have to break out ollydbg to friggin unpack the thing to check it properly.....

Garr, why not screen capture it if its a vid intro and pop it up on tube for us paranoid freaks? ;p


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: Garr255 on July 10, 2012, 05:09:55 AM
I wouldn't be malicious to bitcoiners, let alone anyone. I haven't ratted people since middle school :P And even then it was only buddies I was showing off to haha

And yes it was packed with that tool, but not by me.

Also something more on topic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPXOivKIXts&feature=watch_response
Poorly edited but definitely gets the point across.


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: sadpandatech on July 10, 2012, 05:14:22 AM
I wouldn't be malicious to bitcoiners, let alone anyone :P

And yes it was packed with that tool, but not by me.

Also something more on topic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPXOivKIXts&feature=watch_response
Poorly edited but definitely gets the point across.

hehe, it's not that I don't trust you. But I don't trust the guy that packed it. ;p

I've seen this vid under another name.


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: Garr255 on July 10, 2012, 05:15:40 AM
'twas packed by a friend o' mine. You'll figure out who he is if you go to Solskogen ;)


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: Garr255 on July 10, 2012, 05:19:30 AM
And your paranoia will have to be at your expense; run it in a VM or something :P I wouldn't be able to make something that can exit a VM in that little space...


Title: Re: The Rap Music Conspiracy
Post by: sadpandatech on July 10, 2012, 05:20:10 AM
And your paranoia will have to be at your expense; run it in a VM or something :P I wouldn't be able to make something that can exit a VM in that little space...

hehe, already there. it's very nice. =)