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coinmaster22 closed the hread because i stated facts. i said there were 779k coins on for sale on c-cex but he said tha was not possible as he said dev did not dump that much premine but it was clearly showing that number and many people can vouch that they were. its no fud.

whether he is working for hp or not it does look like a scam.

Our service has undergone the most serious attack during the existence of the project. Due to the fact that most of the specialists of the company is on New Year's weekend, it was decided to secure the safety of users of funds and infrastructure protection service from breaking suspend the site before the first Monday in 2015 (January 5). On this day, all service specialists will return to their jobs and work of the service will continue as normal. Stay calm. Thank you for understanding.

I know coinmaster22 personally

Interesting. In most countries he could be held liable for recklessly (or knowingly) providing material support for security fraud. I what country does he live?

Interesting. In most countries he could be held liable for recklessly (or knowingly) providing material support for security fraud. I what country does he live?

IF this is him then it looks like he is from the UK
https://btcjam.com/users/63314

He mis-understood Hashprofit.

It doesnt even matter if he did or not.  At least in the US, its defined as "knowingly or recklessly" promoting  or providing material support for security fraud. You can look it up for your own country, but its likely similar. There is no doubt what he did was at least reckless. Whether or not it was knowingly, Im pretty sure it was, but legally it doesnt even matter.

It interesting to note that under said SEC regulation, coinmaster could be considered liable to the same degree as the perpetrators, who may  remain anonymous and/or out of reach. Something to keep in mind next time anyone wants to promote a ponzi.

I think we should wait until 5th of January. Everything will be clear.

Just a small doubt, if we can't find that anonymous person, how can they punished? ???

Doesnt seem like conmaster222 would be anonymous enough.

BTW, googling around, it seems promoting ponzi's is illegal in Russia too:

The bill also stipulates punishment for those who compel people to make a payment and join a pyramid scheme.

The Finance Ministry has also proposed amending the Administrative Offences Code to introduce administrative penalties for organizing pyramids, compelling people to make a payment or promoting these schemes.
http://rapsinews.com/legislation_news/20140924/272184843.html

Doesnt go as far as SEC regulations, but its nice to know even in Russia you could get in serious trouble for putting these ponzi banners in your signature.

Yes he isn't that anonymous but I asked about people behind HP and other HYIP/scams.


I think in almost all countries promoting such things are illegal and may get severe punishments.

   ~~MZ~~

We can't persecute everyone who's ever promoted HashProfit (thinking it was legit)

Why not? I sure hope they try.
BTW, it can be taken a step further: prosecute this very forum:
http://rapsinews.com/news/20140211/270688354.html

maybe that would finally make theymos reconsider his idiotic forum policies.

Why not? I sure hope they try.
BTW, it can be taken a step further: prosecute this very forum:
http://rapsinews.com/news/20140211/270688354.html

maybe that would finally make theymos reconsider his idiotic forum policies.

I don't believe the forum itself has been advertising Ponzi sites like Hashprofit.

We cannot hold the forum responsible for what some people post on it.
If we did then most forums on the internet would have to close or be heavily moderated/censored.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=818048.msg9257332#msg9257332


http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=4101cfa8-8841-4fae-bd88-89e26407b47e

I am try to translate as much Russian post as I can and seems like there is an announcement from that company, related to their movement to China but I am not even sure, most of those posts being nonsense after translation.

So if you have any news related to company share please.

Yes then I agree the forum should be held responsible too.
Anyone got anymore news about this scam? I guess its safe to say that our money is lost now right?

i dont see how the forum is to blame for anything. did the forum once say we support the coin? no. did the forum post tell you to buy the coin? no. it is your decision to make from the info given. even if hashprofit bought adverts it is not forum responsibility as only information is provided to you. as long as they do not support the info or back it up by recommending it only then it would be wise to blame the forum

Anyway, Theymos has personally accepted these ads and displayed them on a site he controls, so if anyone has lost money because they thought his judgement was better regarding this then they can for instance give him a negative trust rating.

I haven't seen scam sites being advertised here. He has even declined Bitmixer bid. Can you provide any links to the scam-bids being accepted by Theymos?

I haven't seen scam sites being advertised here. He has even declined Bitmixer bid. Can you provide any links to the scam-bids being accepted by Theymos?

   ~~MZ~~

From hashprofit.com

Today resumes service in protected mode.

Despite warnings from the administration of the service, many people succumbed to panic and preprinyali number of actions discrediting and disrupting service.

Also, the attacker managed to get a substantial part of the information about the users of the service, as well as, in some cases, their authorization data.

All of these actions have led to a significant reduction in the efficiency of mining and many other negative consequences.

Despite everything that happened, from today (05.01.2015) the date of payment will be resumed with the applied information and technical infrastructure damage.

Set the following priorities and limitations of payment:

The first priority of payments get users residing in the territory of the Russian Federation.
Payments will be carried out at least 1 time in 14 days, and if there are good opportunities - every 7 days.
Users to take action to discredit the project or any other actions that could potentially harm the project will be lowered priority for the payments to a minimum until the delisting payments.
Our team has always understood the risks associated with the project, and in the process of service development project launched not only HP, but a few services of this kind. In the most successful of them, running 3.5 months ago, was taken into account the experience gained during the development of the project HP. He is more perfect and attractive for the following:

It is aimed at a Western audience, because, as a rule, it is more advanced and solvency.
The mechanism of payment cards VISA and MasterCard.
A web camera, showing a data center in real time.
Interface translated into 10 most popular languages.
Modern, tech and lightweight design of the site.
Hundreds of other smaller improvements.
It - only the most developed to date service, in addition to running his or tested more than 20 different types of services. As a result, all users to exercise prudence and support service at the stage of its formation and development will be rewarded.

Thank you for your support and understanding.

So are they coming back or what ?

https://vk.com/id277415332   started paying Russian investors small amounts

Hey guys.

I'm thinking of starting PFC/Hashprofit scam investigation, finding the guys behind it. If Hashprofit will return for good - ok, we just won't need that info then.

Just - for anyone who don't know that - i'm from Russia, and, as far as I see, these guys left a lot of traces in Russia that can lead to, ahem, very private conversation. Even if they are on Bahamas atm - they still have relatives who won't be glad talking to siloviki or mobsters.

Dummy corp (not sure that there's a corp, maybe just an address) in Cyprus is dead end.
Webmoney WMID is out in public, with formal verification (that means government-issued ID was provided to Webmoney in november).
8-800 phone number can be registered in Russia only with ID.
hashprofit.com has DNS of Yandex, biggest Russian internet holding, that 100% complies with FSB requests.

and that's just in 15 minutes of search through .ru web.

We really should be able to find the people behind Hashprofit though. Especially when we get lawyers and police involved. CoinMaster222 should be punished aswell though of course.

monetizator4 Full Member
Re: The Official Hashprofit Cloud Mining Thread
December 29, 2014, 03:42:42 PM
I'm trying to search some HP coordinates in Russian SEs and forums.
In their old announces you can read post address in Tyumen city.

Our contacts:

Veteranov Truda str., 58/2, stroenie 2,
Tyumen
Russian Federation, 625031
Company "Hash Profit"

Phones:
From Russia: 8-800-555-80-73
From Ukraine: +380 443 93 4191
Other countries: +7 (345) 223-86-02

Contact e-mails:
support@hashprofit.com
sales@hashprofit.com
partner@hashprofit.com

Haши кoнтaкты
Aдpec Poccия, 625031, г. Tюмeнь, yл. Beтepaнoв Tpyдa, 58/2 cтp. 2
Кoмпaния «Xэш пpoфит»
Teлeфoны 8-800-555-80-73 (звoнoк из Poccии бecплaтный)
+380 443 93 4191 (для житeлeй Укpaины)
+7 (345) 223-86-02 (для звoнкoв из дpyгиx cтpaн)
Oтдeл пoддepжки пoльзoвaтeлeй support@hashprofit.com
Oтдeл пpoдaж sales@hashprofit.com
Пo вocпpocaм coтpyдничecтвa partner@hashprofit.com

Yes around 10% of what they previously paid.

I was surprised to see their post on their website, i had written my losses off as a scam. This may be an elaborate or even bigger scam, they may come back and resume payments as normal, which will push their trust ratings up because they supposedly paid back everyone and they become a great company in the eyes of everyone. Once the ratings are up and more people join, they may disappear for good. Even if they are genuine, i am burned now. Once bitten, twice shy, if i do manage to get some of my money back, i would be happy. Hell, i will withdraw all my KHS for PFC and dump them. The fact they went AWOL without too much information does not inspire confidence. Mega-Scam Alert! :-\

Edit: Especially not happy about this clause : Users who take some actions for project discrediting or any other doings that can potentially harm our service will get low priority of payments - up to the full payments restriction.

Why should this happen? They were the ones at fault and it is but natural that people would be angry with them, to put such a clause is totally un-professional in my opinion. In fact they should be paying back these users on priority! Are they trying to play god?

I second this one, but I am only asking for the 0.83555BTC that Hashprofit scammed out of me. The website is still down and their self-imposed deadline has passed.

You may want to acknowledge that you were wrong here and cap the number of people claiming this against you. Otherwise you will end up dealing with something like this, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140654 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140654).

any other member from outside russian federration got payment ?

any other member from outside russian federration got payment ?

Until we can login or get more info on their website then everything is just speculation.

I can see their argument, a small company will have little staff over the holidays apart from routine running, so if they got hacked over the break then I can see the best thing to do would be to shut it down for a week.

Russian only payments seems illogical from a technical perspective, so that is strange.

Think we can do nothing, and not really speculate with any certainty, until we can login. Fingers crossed that won't take too long for them to sort out, even if there's no payments, we can see what it happening with the site.

S.

Come on people. Use your brains.

All these deeds have led to big mining effectiveness reduction and many other negative effects.

Wtf? How? Details please.


The first priority will get all the users who live in Russian Federation.

I imagine this is because they are based in Russia and they want to try give something back to those users located closest to them (geographically), as they are potentially the biggest threats to both their safety and freedom.


Payouts will take place once in a 14 days or more often, and if we'll have a good opportunity - once in 7 days.

Lol.


Users who take some actions for project discrediting or any other doings that can potentially harm our service will get low priority of payments - up to the full payments restriction.

Basically.. don't try look for us. Don't post private info about us. If you do you risk losing your payments (which I am sure will be non-existent anyway).



To summarize:
The HP ponzi is now over. What will happen next is weeks and months of nonsense posts from the HP team, to drag out affairs until nobody really cares about their losses anymore. Pretty much the same as what is happening with PB Mining.

Either way, your monies are gone.

It looks like you now have to pay a premium (0.03BTC) for the privilege of sending them an email. Anyone care to share the blockchain info if you succumb to paying their bounty?

That's not new, it's been there since this whole thing went down.

i m not a russian so i cant take any money
is it normal?
its racism..
it means all other country's people is stupid..
HashProfit is not only scammer, they are robber..

has anybody at all been paid by hash profit? anyone at all?

stop sending HP messages! you've now given them another 2.3BTC


https://blockchain.info/ru/address/1KGBAM4jFzGF8rcPA2BtLnhDZ3ZcHkp4hG

Anyone got they payment? It is already a week from 5th january.

Anyone got they payment? It is already a week from 5th january.

Bye bye money  :-[

Next step will be to start a scam thread for coinmaster22 and his open bet that has not been paid.   ;)

The website is now down. No more 0,03BTC per mail for them.  :P

Atleast, we have found the person who made the DDOS attack. :P Glade you made another, now the mail-scamming is also stopped. ;) I wonder how much BTC they got through that mail-scamming. ::)

Do anybody think that the site will come again? Willanybody invest there again? What about PFC? Did they dump it too?

   ~~MZ~~

The website is back online. LOL  ;D

I think, is not scam. why is hashprofit.com second updated of info? be patient (yeah I hope it) :/

payments will be slow from 34btc 1537 transactions were made yet they had over 200k accounts. it could take over a year before we see most of the money back. will the site be online? i dont think so so no one can buy hash with PFC. even if it does would you deposit funds i think not. so ayone buying pfc now is just to make profit so dont be left the bagholder if there is a pump

Is this fully gone? I think I lost around 0.3 BTC :(

Looks that way and I lost quite a bit more than that.

Of course they are well and truly gone. If they were interested in giving back our money, they would have communicated better. I am pretty sure they are not even paying the russians as they claim to be doing. I hope some of the russian members will see this and can comment with an update. I think i had a nett loss of 0.1 btc only. Thankfully i did not invest in their great christmas offer where they were selling KHS at heavy discounts. I was about to get in, but then had to convert that btc to fiat for christmas. The lying, scamming bastards are likely enjoying life in the bahamas and laughing at all of us. :-[

what is last situtation?
is there anybody who can restore your deposit?
i dont think so..