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Title: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: moreia on January 01, 2015, 07:02:33 PM
Error , more information here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=911232.0


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: grue on January 01, 2015, 07:08:23 PM
trust: He gave me negative trust for no reason
::)
the reason is that you used your account as collateral for a loan but you recovered it without repaying the loan.


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: moreia on January 01, 2015, 07:09:26 PM
trust: He gave me negative trust for no reason
::)
the reason is that you used your account as collateral for a loan but you recovered it without repaying the loan.
I did no such thing. He emailed me how to access the account. If I really recovered it then why don't you recover it back to redsn0w


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: redsn0w on January 01, 2015, 07:26:53 PM
Are you kidding me ? If you have repaid the loan , please ... post the transaction id here ( and now). You  told me through PM that you have repaid the loan but I didn't see the btc:


https://blockchain.info/zh-cn/tx/b5142dce76af8bcf3188de5060be93f7b1726dc248f3a7f7191b46cdab9d546c
repay address is: 1PvdjK1qcmhZyRkwgmUtsm9vYMiQ3XEMf7


Here a thread about the "mistake" : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=910721.0


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: moreia on January 01, 2015, 07:30:25 PM
Are you kidding me ? If you have repaid the loan , please ... post the transaction id here ( and now). You  told me through PM that you have repaid the loan but I didn't see the btc:


https://blockchain.info/zh-cn/tx/b5142dce76af8bcf3188de5060be93f7b1726dc248f3a7f7191b46cdab9d546c
repay address is: 1PvdjK1qcmhZyRkwgmUtsm9vYMiQ3XEMf7


Here a thread about the "mistake" : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=910721.0
It was given to the address you gave me.


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: redsn0w on January 01, 2015, 07:31:49 PM
Are you kidding me ? If you have repaid the loan , please ... post the transaction id here ( and now). You  told me through PM that you have repaid the loan but I didn't see the btc:


https://blockchain.info/zh-cn/tx/b5142dce76af8bcf3188de5060be93f7b1726dc248f3a7f7191b46cdab9d546c
repay address is: 1PvdjK1qcmhZyRkwgmUtsm9vYMiQ3XEMf7


Here a thread about the "mistake" : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=910721.0
It was given to the address you gave me.

I didn't give you nothing , again : are you serious ?


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: moreia on January 01, 2015, 07:36:06 PM
Are you kidding me ? If you have repaid the loan , please ... post the transaction id here ( and now). You  told me through PM that you have repaid the loan but I didn't see the btc:


https://blockchain.info/zh-cn/tx/b5142dce76af8bcf3188de5060be93f7b1726dc248f3a7f7191b46cdab9d546c
repay address is: 1PvdjK1qcmhZyRkwgmUtsm9vYMiQ3XEMf7


Here a thread about the "mistake" : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=910721.0
It was given to the address you gave me.

I didn't give you nothing , again : are you serious ?
You are going off topic. Please keep the discussion to be regarding what steps you are taking to get yourself off of default trust.

I sent the repayment to your circle account just like you asked


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: Magic8Ball on January 01, 2015, 07:44:35 PM
A short summary: moreia has been taking progressively higher loans for some time to pay for some project. Every time he put his account as collateral though it is not worth even half the first loan he took. It raised suspicions that he might be planning to take the last loan and leave.

Earlier today he got the last loan amounting to 0.8 BTC from lihuajkl putting his account in escrow with redsn0w. He, or someone else, recovered the account claiming the loan has been repaid, and he started asking for more loans by PMing me and marcotheminer.

If his story is to be believed it means he paid back the 0.8 BTC loan with interest within a few hours even though he had a week to pay back, and then he started requesting more loans which makes no sense at all.


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: deadley on January 01, 2015, 07:44:54 PM
Can you show Email that Redsn0w sent you access. And why he sent you even when you did not repaid loan.


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: redsn0w on January 01, 2015, 07:47:15 PM
Are you kidding me ? If you have repaid the loan , please ... post the transaction id here ( and now). You  told me through PM that you have repaid the loan but I didn't see the btc:


https://blockchain.info/zh-cn/tx/b5142dce76af8bcf3188de5060be93f7b1726dc248f3a7f7191b46cdab9d546c
repay address is: 1PvdjK1qcmhZyRkwgmUtsm9vYMiQ3XEMf7


Here a thread about the "mistake" : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=910721.0
It was given to the address you gave me.

I didn't give you nothing , again : are you serious ?
You are going off topic. Please keep the discussion to be regarding what steps you are taking to get yourself off of default trust.

I sent the repayment to your circle account just like you asked


When I kept your account as collateral of the loan I've not  sent more PMs , so you should repay the loan now  in the correct address:

https://blockchain.info/zh-cn/tx/b5142dce76af8bcf3188de5060be93f7b1726dc248f3a7f7191b46cdab9d546c
repay address is: 1PvdjK1qcmhZyRkwgmUtsm9vYMiQ3XEMf7


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: Sumerian on January 01, 2015, 07:49:02 PM
I doubt he'll ever payback. It's obvious, but moreia ruined his reputation, too bad.


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: moreia on January 01, 2015, 07:56:47 PM
Are you kidding me ? If you have repaid the loan , please ... post the transaction id here ( and now). You  told me through PM that you have repaid the loan but I didn't see the btc:


https://blockchain.info/zh-cn/tx/b5142dce76af8bcf3188de5060be93f7b1726dc248f3a7f7191b46cdab9d546c
repay address is: 1PvdjK1qcmhZyRkwgmUtsm9vYMiQ3XEMf7


Here a thread about the "mistake" : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=910721.0
It was given to the address you gave me.

I didn't give you nothing , again : are you serious ?
You are going off topic. Please keep the discussion to be regarding what steps you are taking to get yourself off of default trust.

I sent the repayment to your circle account just like you asked


When I kept your account as collateral of the loan I've not  sent more PMs , so you should repay the loan now  in the correct address:

https://blockchain.info/zh-cn/tx/b5142dce76af8bcf3188de5060be93f7b1726dc248f3a7f7191b46cdab9d546c
repay address is: 1PvdjK1qcmhZyRkwgmUtsm9vYMiQ3XEMf7

You send me an email to my email address. You said to send the loan to your circle account.


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: Cancan on January 01, 2015, 08:18:16 PM
Is redsn0w even in the default trust list?


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: LOBSTER on January 01, 2015, 08:19:24 PM
Is redsn0w even in the default trust list?

He is at "Trust Depth 2". So yes.

See here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: redsn0w on January 01, 2015, 08:20:01 PM
....
You send me an email to my email address. You said to send the loan to your circle account.

Again and again , I told you : where is the proofs ? You are saying only bullshit. I think you are trying to ruin my reputation , but I don't know : why?


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: Cancan on January 01, 2015, 08:21:25 PM
Is redsn0w even in the default trust list?

He is at "Trust Depth 2". So yes.

See here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust

Now I see him. Catching up with recent events I can see that lately it's popular to demand the removal of someone fom the default trust ilst.


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: LOBSTER on January 01, 2015, 08:21:45 PM
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You send me an email to my email address. You said to send the loan to your circle account.

Again and again , I told you : where is the proofs ? You are saying only bullshit. I think you are trying to ruin my reputation , but I don't know : why?

Haters gonna hate, redsn0w. You shouldn't care about it, because everyone know that his negative trust is only garbage.


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: Blazed on January 01, 2015, 08:23:54 PM
Is redsn0w even in the default trust list?

He is at "Trust Depth 2". So yes.

See here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust

I assume added by Canary...he seems to add most people!


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: redsn0w on January 01, 2015, 08:27:20 PM
Is redsn0w even in the default trust list?

He is at "Trust Depth 2". So yes.

See here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust

I assume added by Canary...he seems to add most people!

I never abused the trust system , so I think he is only trying to ruin my reputation. I still don't know why ?


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: LOBSTER on January 01, 2015, 08:28:09 PM
Is redsn0w even in the default trust list?

He is at "Trust Depth 2". So yes.

See here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust

I assume added by Canary...he seems to add most people!

Can users in the Default Trust List add other users to this?


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: moreia on January 01, 2015, 08:29:54 PM
Is redsn0w even in the default trust list?

He is at "Trust Depth 2". So yes.

See here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust

I assume added by Canary...he seems to add most people!
Can you get him to remove him so I don't ruin my reputation


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: redsn0w on January 01, 2015, 08:29:57 PM
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You send me an email to my email address. You said to send the loan to your circle account.

Again and again , I told you : where is the proofs ? You are saying only bullshit. I think you are trying to ruin my reputation , but I don't know : why?

Haters gonna hate, redsn0w. You shouldn't care about it, because everyone know that his negative trust is only garbage.

I know , but I really don't like these type of people. It is useless because I have not done anything wrong, and now a lot of people come here and say :

he was added  by him , he is in the defaultTrust list .

Where is the problem?  If I don't abuse it , I catch the scammer... again : where is the problem ? @Blazedout419 , @Cancan .



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Can users in the Default Trust List add other users to this?

Yes only if he is in "depth 1" of the list , but now we are off topic.


....
Can you get him to remove him so I don't ruin my reputation


Repay the loan , come on don't try to cheat me. You still haven't post any proofs...


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: Welsh on January 01, 2015, 08:38:03 PM
Can you get him to remove him so I don't ruin my reputation

Even if this gets solved, you've ruined your reputation with this post  here  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=910999.0).


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: moreia on January 01, 2015, 08:39:17 PM
....
You send me an email to my email address. You said to send the loan to your circle account.

Again and again , I told you : where is the proofs ? You are saying only bullshit. I think you are trying to ruin my reputation , but I don't know : why?

Haters gonna hate, redsn0w. You shouldn't care about it, because everyone know that his negative trust is only garbage.

I know , but I really don't like these type of people. It is useless because I have not done anything wrong, and now a lot of people come here and say :

he was added  by him , he is in the defaultTrust list .

Where is the problem?  If I don't abuse it , I catch the scammer... again : where is the problem ? @Blazedout419 , @Cancan .



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Can users in the Default Trust List add other users to this?

Yes only if he is in "depth 1" of the list , but now we are off topic.


....
Can you get him to remove him so I don't ruin my reputation


Repay the loan , come on don't try to cheat me. You still haven't post any proofs...
What scam have you stopped? You give trust too much to obvious scams


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: redsn0w on January 01, 2015, 08:39:58 PM
I've seen that now he is asking for multiple loans :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=910833.msg10004462#msg10004462

I've saved some of his posts (with archive.today) .


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: xetsr on January 01, 2015, 08:41:04 PM
I've seen that now he is asking for multiple loans :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=910833.msg10004462#msg10004462

I've saved some of his posts (with archive.today) :   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=910833.msg10004462#msg10004462

and trying to buy BTC at +10%, probably trying to sucker a newer member into sending first: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=910686.0


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: moreia on January 01, 2015, 08:41:26 PM
Can you get him to remove him so I don't ruin my reputation

Even if this gets solved, you've ruined your reputation with this post  here  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=910999.0).
Trying to stop others from getting scammed by this scammer. I don't want him to be able to scam someone else. He was planning to scam the entire time. If he gets enough -ve trust then he is a known scammer. I do not like scams nor do I like scammers


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: moreia on January 01, 2015, 08:42:52 PM
I've seen that now he is asking for multiple loans :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=910833.msg10004462#msg10004462

I've saved some of his posts (with archive.today) :   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=910833.msg10004462#msg10004462

and trying to buy BTC at +10%, probably trying to sucker a newer member into sending first: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=910686.0
If you are selling then I can send first because you are not a scammer.


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: redsn0w on January 01, 2015, 08:44:02 PM
He posted :


Redsn0w scammed me and needs more negative trust.

I will give .01 to anyone that gives him negative trust. If you are on default trust I give .031016

We can use escrow or you send first. PM me your btc address once it is done

https://archive.today/PDz1r



is this only a drama , or are you serious moreia ?


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: moreia on January 01, 2015, 08:48:30 PM
He posted :


Redsn0w scammed me and needs more negative trust.

I will give .01 to anyone that gives him negative trust. If you are on default trust I give .031016

We can use escrow or you send first. PM me your btc address once it is done

https://archive.today/PDz1r



is this only a drama , or are you serious moreia ?
Why would I edit that post? I am trying to bring attention to your scam.


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: justinetime on January 01, 2015, 08:53:14 PM
Wait... I see Moreia want the loan fund to 1redsY74u97ECVVKx7Gz9QWJWECUuzsrj
is it really his address?,


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: redsn0w on January 01, 2015, 09:55:21 PM
Wait... I see Moreia want the loan fund to 1redsY74u97ECVVKx7Gz9QWJWECUuzsrj
is it really his address?,

No it is my address and here he told it is his address:

dang negative TRUST BUT CAN A ESCROW hold your account?
sure. I can use danny if you want

for reference my btc address is 1redsY74u97ECVVKx7Gz9QWJWECUuzsrj


at least he can sign a message , but I'm sure now he is only trolling.


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: moreia on January 01, 2015, 09:59:23 PM
Now redsn0w is giving retaliatory trust to anyone that gives him negative trust. Look at printshop he gave an accurate rating because redsn0w did fuck up


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: redsn0w on January 01, 2015, 10:01:29 PM
Now redsn0w is giving retaliatory trust to anyone that gives him negative trust. Look at printshop he gave an accurate rating because redsn0w did fuck up

My last negative feedback is yours , I don't care about the other users. I really want to know : why do you want to ruin my reputation ? Can you reply please ? Or are you only a troll ?


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: redsn0w on January 01, 2015, 10:06:02 PM
Now redsn0w is giving retaliatory trust to anyone that gives him negative trust. Look at printshop he gave an accurate rating because redsn0w did fuck up

My last negative feedback is yours , I don't care about the other users. I really want to know : why do you want to ruin my reputation ? Can you reply please ? Or are you only a troll ?
You removed it. It was there when I called you out on it

I've removed my postive trust because you didn't repay the lihuajkl's loan :


https://blockchain.info/zh-cn/tx/b5142dce76af8bcf3188de5060be93f7b1726dc248f3a7f7191b46cdab9d546c
repay address is:1PvdjK1qcmhZyRkwgmUtsm9vYMiQ3XEMf7


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: mindrust on January 01, 2015, 10:38:13 PM
God, what is this forum becoming into...

Just to be clear if op has to repay 0.88btc, why did he create a scam topic?

moreia, do you owe 0.88btc or not?

if you do, why do you write non-sense messages? pay your debt and move on.


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: redsn0w on January 01, 2015, 10:51:47 PM
God, what is this forum becoming into...

Just to be clear if op has to repay 0.88btc, why did he create a scam topic?

moreia, do you owe 0.88btc or not?

if you do, why do you write non-sense messages? pay your debt and move on.

I think he was banned :

Code:
- Autoban user: N/A in topic #0 by member #147832
   


https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php 


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: Tomatocage on January 01, 2015, 11:26:37 PM
The moreia account appears to be back in control of redsn0w, according to the signature which checks out as Message verified

Edit: Removed verification info


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: redsn0w on January 01, 2015, 11:29:26 PM
The moreia account appears to be back in control of redsn0w, according to the signature which checks out as Message verified:

Signed message here >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=147832

Yes I've removed the negative trust , I hope the other users can help me to "clean" this account. Maybe I can send it to lihuajkl  if the loan will not be repaid. Now I will send a pm to the other users that left a negative feedback.


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: BadBear on January 01, 2015, 11:43:56 PM
redsn0w, you shouldn't sign messages with simple vague phrases like I'm redsn0w, anyone can copy that and use it at any point in the future to pretend they are you. Particularly bad in this instance since it's a vanity address. You should include something unique to the situation you are signing the message for, such as today's date at least.


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: Tomatocage on January 02, 2015, 12:03:20 AM
Good point. I have edited my original message where I included his sig. Redsn0w, you should probably edit your message where you quoted me.


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: redsn0w on January 02, 2015, 12:04:33 AM
redsn0w, you shouldn't sign messages with simple vague phrases like I'm redsn0w, anyone can copy that and use it at any point in the future to pretend they are you. Particularly bad in this instance since it's a vanity address. You should include something unique to the situation you are signing the message for, such as today's date at least.

Yes you are right ,  I've posted a new one : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=147832   can you help me  to resolve this inconvenient?


Good point. I have edited my original message where I included his sig. Redsn0w, you should probably edit your message where you quoted me.


Done , thanks for the help.  I know someone is trying to ruin my reputation , but I don't know why.


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: Scamalert on January 02, 2015, 12:08:55 AM
redsn0w, you shouldn't sign messages with simple vague phrases like I'm redsn0w, anyone can copy that and use it at any point in the future to pretend they are you. Particularly bad in this instance since it's a vanity address. You should include something unique to the situation you are signing the message for, such as today's date at least.

Yes you are right ,  I've posted a new one : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=147832   can you help me  to resolve this inconvenient?


Good point. I have edited my original message where I included his sig. Redsn0w, you should probably edit your message where you quoted me.


Done , thanks for the help.  I know someone is trying to ruin my reputation , but I don't know why.

This does not really solve the issue, I still have a signed copy of you message "I'm redsn0w." (I would ofcause never misuse this), but others (scammers) might have a copy as well.
I recommend that you start working on a new vanity addy, you have unfortunally spoiled the one one you have (imo).
No hate from here, I understand that you make mistake in a stressed situation, it is natural.


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: BadBear on January 02, 2015, 12:23:24 AM
Well, what I do know.

IPs during the incident, after the loan, were different (Tor).
moreia_alt's IPs do match moreia's.
Whoever is logged into moreia's account currently is also using Tor (odd).

I'll leave the speculating for others.



 
 


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: redsn0w on January 02, 2015, 12:24:47 AM
Well, what I do know.

IPs during the incident, after the loan, were different (Tor).
moreia_alt's IPs do match moreia's.
Whoever is logged into moreia's account currently is also using Tor (odd).

I'll leave the speculating for others.

 

Now I'm logged from tor , I will send you the ip through PM right now .


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: BadBear on January 02, 2015, 12:54:37 AM
I've unbanned the account.


Title: Re: I demand redsn0w be removed from default trust
Post by: redsn0w on January 02, 2015, 01:02:02 AM
I've unbanned the account.

Thanks for the help, it is really appreciated.  Now I will lock the thread from the moreia's forum account.