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Title: New Casino App/Online
Post by: IG_Natrly on January 08, 2015, 05:04:16 PM
Made an original thread here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=917586.0

Actually to start

UI/UX- A friend is one and is already just making it more spicier at the moment... User Interface is ideal and accesibility

Roulette- we started with Single 0's and the house edge is alot smaller but however with roulette its 36:1 so u know odds etc etc

Blackjack: each game will be a 6 deck shoe and allow up to 6 ppl to play thats the basics.......We also will have a high roller table in future for one on one vs dealer....If things went extremely well down the line i was thinking about livestreaming a dealer.....for the high rollers.

Scratchoffs are all luck based as in real scratchies.

I want to add Texas Hold em Let it ride and possibly many different slots..

At the moment the only things running smoothly is the first three mentioned this takes like 13hr days from us coding and going over flaws and debugging.


Things left to be done

Find a solid name for app and site
Bankroll is key. I myself have 20 btc socked away and my other partner has 10 we need at least another 70btc while we complete. so we have been mining as well
We thought about investors.....But its really hard to finalize legalized deals.


Any thoughts please let me know. and if you guys give me ideas to use that our solid we can talk about implementing them...

Note im in the usa where after all said and done i have to apply for a license for this... I am fairly confident since me and others graduated with many distinguished individuals we have some lawyer friends too ;)


Title: Re: New Casino App/Online
Post by: elm on January 08, 2015, 09:08:26 PM
US license for online casino  ??? hmmmmm


Title: Re: New Casino App/Online
Post by: IG_Natrly on January 08, 2015, 09:55:19 PM
I can get a license if i issue tokens.....Btc->Tokens Token-> btc

There are ways. Certain states will not allow but theres only 3-5 atm that wont allow that.


Title: Re: New Casino App/Online
Post by: elm on January 08, 2015, 09:59:42 PM
I can get a license if i issue tokens.....Btc->Tokens Token-> btc

There are ways. Certain states will not allow but theres only 3-5 atm that wont allow that.

could you name one online casino with such a token/btc license?


Title: Re: New Casino App/Online
Post by: IG_Natrly on January 08, 2015, 10:14:41 PM
no thats making me unique however there were cash-> token type casinos...that went around specific laws


Title: Re: New Casino App/Online
Post by: NewJerseyJess on January 09, 2015, 12:12:12 AM
Overdone, don't expect much.


Title: Re: New Casino App/Online
Post by: cakebet on January 09, 2015, 04:53:32 AM
Good luck!  :)


Title: Re: New Casino App/Online
Post by: Gumbork on January 09, 2015, 07:12:25 AM
best of luck!


Title: Re: New Casino App/Online
Post by: conizer14 on January 09, 2015, 12:47:39 PM
Good luck with everything.

I'm glad you took on my advice regarding the user experience.

Some people are more concerned with just getting stuff working and overlooking a user's experience on their site.

I hope you manage to raise the remaining funds and keep me in mind if you want to maximize your position when you're in operation.

Drop me a PM anytime.

Regards


Title: Re: New Casino App/Online
Post by: ComboChris on January 09, 2015, 03:15:49 PM
no thats making me unique however there were cash-> token type casinos...that went around specific laws

Did you think about how much the license will cost you and how long it will take to get it from applying until you can actually legally open? Have you researched what type of company you need and how you can make that kind of company?
Do you know how much the normal taxes, the gambling taxes etc. would be?


Title: Re: New Casino App/Online
Post by: cloverme on January 09, 2015, 11:55:40 PM
For some reason, everyone seems to love the dice-based games even though there's a million of them. I had a blackjack site and even though it got good traffic, people don't stay that long or gamble that much. I think it's because the dice games are instant, faced paced, and require little interaction.


Title: Re: New Casino App/Online
Post by: elm on January 10, 2015, 08:31:49 AM
For some reason, everyone seems to love the dice-based games even though there's a million of them. I had a blackjack site and even though it got good traffic, people don't stay that long or gamble that much. I think it's because the dice games are instant, faced paced, and require little interaction.

yea very strange but may I ask you what kind of rules did you give and is it the johnny BJ script? just wondering why people dont stay and play

thanks


Title: Re: New Casino App/Online
Post by: cloverme on January 10, 2015, 04:26:39 PM
For some reason, everyone seems to love the dice-based games even though there's a million of them. I had a blackjack site and even though it got good traffic, people don't stay that long or gamble that much. I think it's because the dice games are instant, faced paced, and require little interaction.

yea very strange but may I ask you what kind of rules did you give and is it the johnny BJ script? just wondering why people dont stay and play

thanks

I used the options to payout 3:2 on blackjack, dealer hit on 17, and 6 decks. Overall I've had about 1k players since october... That being said, I didn't really promote it heavily either.

I'm working on developing my own game at this point, so I'm thinking about just selling the blackjack site or closing it down this month.


Title: Re: New Casino App/Online
Post by: elm on January 10, 2015, 04:46:45 PM
For some reason, everyone seems to love the dice-based games even though there's a million of them. I had a blackjack site and even though it got good traffic, people don't stay that long or gamble that much. I think it's because the dice games are instant, faced paced, and require little interaction.

yea very strange but may I ask you what kind of rules did you give and is it the johnny BJ script? just wondering why people dont stay and play

thanks

I used the options to payout 3:2 on blackjack, dealer hit on 17, and 6 decks. Overall I've had about 1k players since october... That being said, I didn't really promote it heavily either.

I'm working on developing my own game at this point, so I'm thinking about just selling the blackjack site or closing it down this month.


so you developed the BJ script youself? could I see it if it is still online?


Title: Re: New Casino App/Online
Post by: cloverme on January 10, 2015, 08:09:02 PM
No, I'm developing a different game that has nothing to do with cards or dice.  It's all code at this point with no UI, so there's nothing to show yet. It's probably going to be a few weeks before I have something to show and test.


Title: Re: New Casino App/Online
Post by: elm on January 11, 2015, 11:19:12 AM
No, I'm developing a different game that has nothing to do with cards or dice.  It's all code at this point with no UI, so there's nothing to show yet. It's probably going to be a few weeks before I have something to show and test.

it looks that you misunderstood my question. I wanted to see the BJ site You mentioned not the new game


Title: Re: New Casino App/Online
Post by: cloverme on January 11, 2015, 04:01:31 PM

it looks that you misunderstood my question. I wanted to see the BJ site You mentioned not the new game

Oh... sorry, I had misunderstood.  It's www.joker21.com


Title: Re: New Casino App/Online
Post by: elm on January 11, 2015, 07:42:59 PM

it looks that you misunderstood my question. I wanted to see the BJ site You mentioned not the new game

Oh... sorry, I had misunderstood.  It's www.joker21.com

it looks like Johnny's script.........if yes it had many bugs. did You fix the bugs alone?


Title: Re: New Casino App/Online
Post by: cloverme on January 11, 2015, 07:58:50 PM
Yeah it's his script... I bought it back in September.  I fixed a couple of the bugs, upgraded a couple of times, and fixed some errors in the database on my own. Version 1.7 was just released yesterday I think. I probably should have purchased the dice script instead or found someone to help market joker21.com better.


Title: Re: New Casino App/Online
Post by: juraj1301 on January 12, 2015, 02:15:33 PM
Made an original thread here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=917586.0

Actually to start

UI/UX- A friend is one and is already just making it more spicier at the moment... User Interface is ideal and accesibility

Roulette- we started with Single 0's and the house edge is alot smaller but however with roulette its 36:1 so u know odds etc etc

Blackjack: each game will be a 6 deck shoe and allow up to 6 ppl to play thats the basics.......We also will have a high roller table in future for one on one vs dealer....If things went extremely well down the line i was thinking about livestreaming a dealer.....for the high rollers.

Scratchoffs are all luck based as in real scratchies.

I want to add Texas Hold em Let it ride and possibly many different slots..

At the moment the only things running smoothly is the first three mentioned this takes like 13hr days from us coding and going over flaws and debugging.


Things left to be done

Find a solid name for app and site
Bankroll is key. I myself have 20 btc socked away and my other partner has 10 we need at least another 70btc while we complete. so we have been mining as well
We thought about investors.....But its really hard to finalize legalized deals.


Any thoughts please let me know. and if you guys give me ideas to use that our solid we can talk about implementing them...

Note im in the usa where after all said and done i have to apply for a license for this... I am fairly confident since me and others graduated with many distinguished individuals we have some lawyer friends too ;)
you help me very much...i always wanted to do something like that...ty :D


Title: Re: New Casino App/Online
Post by: dooglus on March 11, 2015, 06:41:39 AM
Yeah it's his script... I bought it back in September.  I fixed a couple of the bugs, upgraded a couple of times, and fixed some errors in the database on my own. Version 1.7 was just released yesterday I think. I probably should have purchased the dice script instead or found someone to help market joker21.com better.

Is there a thread for the joker21 site on these forums?

I was asked to check out the provable fairness of the site, but can't even find an explanation of how it is meant to work.

What does the client seed do, and how?

Edit: seen in the on-site chat:

Quote
♤Admin♤41:56
The client seed is hashed with sha512 and added to the initial server hash.


Title: Re: New Casino App/Online
Post by: elm on March 11, 2015, 07:33:25 AM
Yeah it's his script... I bought it back in September.  I fixed a couple of the bugs, upgraded a couple of times, and fixed some errors in the database on my own. Version 1.7 was just released yesterday I think. I probably should have purchased the dice script instead or found someone to help market joker21.com better.

Is there a thread for the joker21 site on these forums?

I was asked to check out the provable fairness of the site, but can't even find an explanation of how it is meant to work.

What does the client seed do, and how?

Edit: seen in the on-site chat:

Quote
♤Admin♤41:56
The client seed is hashed with sha512 and added to the initial server hash.

may I ask if the provably fairness of this site is acceptable/satisfying for the players?
thanks