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Title: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: Eamorr on January 15, 2015, 09:04:53 PM Jan 15th, 2015. I thought I'd have a look at the activity of some of the altcoins.
Bitcoin - bitcointalk: 10m+ topics - activity on https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/graphs/contributors - very high - Comment: lovely old steam engine Ripple - xrptalk.org: 4,100 topics. forum.ripple.com: 5,400 topics - activity on https://github.com/ripple/rippled/graphs/contributors - high - Comment: like a Japanese bullet train (driven by a team of experienced, responsible and well-trained people) Stellar - stellartalk.org: 1,300 topics - activity on https://github.com/stellar/stellard/graphs/contributors - medium - Comment: like a Japanese bullet train (driven by a team of cry babies who are prone to throw their toys out of the pram at any moment) NXT - nxtforum.org: 108,000 topics - activity on https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/overview - high - Comment: resist the new world order. Hippies and anti-government cranks. Dodge - doges.org: 48,000 topics - activity on https://github.com/dogecoin/dogecoin/graphs/contributors - dwindling - Drug train Darkcoin - darkcointalk.org: 3,200 topics - activity on https://github.com/darkcoin/darkcoin/graphs/contributors - low - Drug train My personal opinion is that - Bitcoin is dying and will be dead soon. (Litecoin, which I didn't mention, is dead) - anyone whose business model revolves around Silk Road Reloaded is going nowhere - "off grid" hippie movements will die - those who can straddle the tightrope of business and politics, as well as win the hearts and minds of consumers will win Title: Re: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: username18333 on January 15, 2015, 09:10:23 PM No desired thing is net by your “straddl[ers]” (Eamorr) via such “straddl[ing]” (Eamorr); therefore, this practice thereof will cease in time.
Title: Re: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: Eamorr on January 15, 2015, 09:12:54 PM No desired thing is begotten of such straddling by your straddlers; therefore, their correspondent practices will cease in time. Government isn't perfect, but it's the best we have. As well as being impractical, Bitcoin is technically incapable of being the world's currency. We have the knowledge and the solutions. Hippie movements, no matter how well organised at a local level, simply do not scale. Title: Re: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: username18333 on January 15, 2015, 09:15:55 PM No desired thing is net by your “straddl[ers]” (Eamorr) via such “straddl[ing]” (Eamorr); therefore, this practice thereof will cease in time. Government isn't perfect, but it's the best we have. As well as being impractical, Bitcoin is technically incapable of being the world's currency. We have the knowledge and the solutions. Hippie movements, no matter how well organised at a local level, simply do not scale. If you should “have” (Eamorr) nothing but poison soup, should you not hunt? Title: Re: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: aleix on January 15, 2015, 09:20:25 PM FYI
Darkcoin GitHub Visualization Dated (01/11/2014-11/19/2014/US) http://youtu.be/egDcPjd0JyI Title: Re: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: sorryforthat on January 15, 2015, 09:30:32 PM - anyone whose business model revolves around Silk Road Reloaded is going nowhere So thats Bitcoins business model? Also, suppose, you know, Silk Road decides to implement all or some of the coins you have listed above? Would that too be their business model? Title: Re: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: Eamorr on January 15, 2015, 09:38:25 PM - anyone whose business model revolves around Silk Road Reloaded is going nowhere So thats Bitcoins business model? Also, suppose, you know, Silk Road decides to implement all or some of the coins you have listed above? Would that too be their business model? I don't really care about Silk Road Reloaded. Anyway, Silk Road requires hiding your identity. If the Silk Road folks want to spend millions of $$$, time, effort and political persuasion into setting up a currency, best of luck to them. Silk Road has done more damage to crypto than all the market manipulators put together. Title: Re: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: sorryforthat on January 15, 2015, 10:04:05 PM - anyone whose business model revolves around Silk Road Reloaded is going nowhere So thats Bitcoins business model? Also, suppose, you know, Silk Road decides to implement all or some of the coins you have listed above? Would that too be their business model? I don't really care about Silk Road Reloaded. Anyway, Silk Road requires hiding your identity. If the Silk Road folks want to spend millions of $$$, time, effort and political persuasion into setting up a currency, best of luck to them. Silk Road has done more damage to crypto than all the market manipulators put together. And this post isnt damaging? The FUD we see every day isnt just what you see written about on a forum. Its the people who past these kind of threads that abuse its name vocally to their friends and peers. Post after post on this forumn speaking about the fall of Bitcoin as people praise other coins that they hold more of. This is the stuff you would epect to see on cryptocointalk or something else more dedicated toward the inteterest. Im not directing all of this toward you personally but its just getting old. Title: Re: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: Eamorr on January 15, 2015, 10:05:45 PM - anyone whose business model revolves around Silk Road Reloaded is going nowhere So thats Bitcoins business model? Also, suppose, you know, Silk Road decides to implement all or some of the coins you have listed above? Would that too be their business model? I don't really care about Silk Road Reloaded. Anyway, Silk Road requires hiding your identity. If the Silk Road folks want to spend millions of $$$, time, effort and political persuasion into setting up a currency, best of luck to them. Silk Road has done more damage to crypto than all the market manipulators put together. And this post isnt damaging? The FUD we see every day isnt just what you see written about on a forum. Its the people who past these kind of threads that abuse its name vocally to their friends and peers. Post after post on this forumn speaking about the fall of Bitcoin as people praise other coins that they hold more of. This is the stuff you would epect to see on cryptocointalk or something else more dedicated toward the inteterest. Im not directing all of this toward you personally but its just getting old. Sigh. Last time I checked, this is the alt-coin section. If you don't like to hear objective criticism, then I suggest you go back to wherever you're most comfortable. Title: Re: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: bobster on January 16, 2015, 03:28:56 PM Hi Eamorr, interesting that you manually compiled some of the data into the OP. You might be interested to take a look at www.coingecko.com for more stats updated daily!
Title: Re: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: FandangledGizmo on January 16, 2015, 03:38:53 PM What's your view on BitShares?
BitShares 11946 Topics https://github.com/BitShares Also where did you get your stats on NXT? You say they have 108000 topics but according to nxtforum.org they only have 6516, big difference? Also Dogecoin only has 9800 topics but you given them 40 000+? So BitShares may well have the most topics after Bitcoin then? Title: Re: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: Eamorr on January 16, 2015, 03:44:52 PM Hi Eamorr, interesting that you manually compiled some of the data into the OP. You might be interested to take a look at www.coingecko.com for more stats updated daily! Hi bobster, You very gentleman! Title: Re: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: Eamorr on January 16, 2015, 03:47:43 PM What's your view on BitShares? I don't have much of an opinion.BitShares 11946 Topics https://github.com/BitShares My initial impression is: - one man band - no community - no money - no influence - they don't even bother to update their Twitter Also where did you get your stats on NXT? ???You say they have 108000 topics but according to nxtforum.org they only have 6516, big difference? nxtforum.org "General Discussion" has 53,000 posts alone. Also Dogecoin only has 9800 topics but you given them 40 000+? Please see doges.org, as cited.So BitShares may well have the most topics after Bitcoin then? Eh, no. Title: Re: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: FandangledGizmo on January 16, 2015, 03:50:45 PM What's your view on BitShares? I don't have much of an opinion.BitShares 11946 Topics https://github.com/BitShares My initial impression is thtat Also where did you get your stats on NXT? ???You say they have 108000 topics but according to nxtforum.org they only have 6516, big difference? nxtforum.org "General Discussion" has 53,000 posts alone. Also Dogecoin only has 9800 topics but you given them 40 000+? Please see doges.org, as cited.So BitShares may well have the most topics after Bitcoin then? Eh, no. Ok you're confusing posts and topics Doge.org has 53107 posts in 9802 topics If you look at nxtforum.org scroll to bottom you'll see a forum stats option... NXT has 148711 posts in 6516 topics https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?action=stats BitShares has 168808 posts in 11946 topics So BitShares does have more posts and topics than others on your list I believe Title: Re: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: Eamorr on January 16, 2015, 03:50:50 PM Hi Eamorr, interesting that you manually compiled some of the data into the OP. You might be interested to take a look at www.coingecko.com for more stats updated daily! Hi bobster, You very gentleman! Actually bobster, that is an excellent webpage. Hats off to you sir. I will be keeping a very close eye on the developments. It's fascinating. Title: Re: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: Eamorr on January 16, 2015, 03:52:38 PM What's your view on BitShares? I don't have much of an opinion.BitShares 11946 Topics https://github.com/BitShares My initial impression is thtat Also where did you get your stats on NXT? ???You say they have 108000 topics but according to nxtforum.org they only have 6516, big difference? nxtforum.org "General Discussion" has 53,000 posts alone. Also Dogecoin only has 9800 topics but you given them 40 000+? Please see doges.org, as cited.So BitShares may well have the most topics after Bitcoin then? Eh, no. Ok you're confusing posts and topics If you look at nxtforum.org scroll to bottom you'll see a forum stats option... NXT has 148711 posts and 6516 topics https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?action=stats BitShares has 168808 posts and 11946 topics No, nxtforum.org has 53,000 topics in "General Discussion" alone. 108,000 topics as of yesterday, when I last checked. Apologies for previous post, I meant "topics". Title: Re: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: bobster on January 16, 2015, 03:54:01 PM Hi Eamorr, interesting that you manually compiled some of the data into the OP. You might be interested to take a look at www.coingecko.com for more stats updated daily! Hi bobster, You very gentleman! Actually bobster, that is an excellent webpage. Hats off to you sir. I will be keeping a very close eye on the developments. It's fascinating. Hi Eamorr, that's great that you find it fascinating. I'm the co-founder of CoinGecko (https://www.coingecko.com/en). If you have any question/comments/feedback, feel free to drop me a line at bobby@coingecko.com or PM me here :) Title: Re: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: FandangledGizmo on January 16, 2015, 03:58:42 PM What's your view on BitShares? I don't have much of an opinion.BitShares 11946 Topics https://github.com/BitShares My initial impression is thtat Also where did you get your stats on NXT? ???You say they have 108000 topics but according to nxtforum.org they only have 6516, big difference? nxtforum.org "General Discussion" has 53,000 posts alone. Also Dogecoin only has 9800 topics but you given them 40 000+? Please see doges.org, as cited.So BitShares may well have the most topics after Bitcoin then? Eh, no. Ok you're confusing posts and topics If you look at nxtforum.org scroll to bottom you'll see a forum stats option... NXT has 148711 posts and 6516 topics https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?action=stats BitShares has 168808 posts and 11946 topics No, nxtforum.org has 53,000 topics in "General Discussion" alone. 108,000 topics as of yesterday, when I last checked. Apologies for previous post, I meant "topics". Yes you are confused. They have 53000 posts (Not Topics - you are wrong) in 'general discussion' but only 1545 topics These contribute to their total of 148000 posts & 6516 topics BitShares has both more posts and topics than any of the others you mentioned, excl. Bitcoin & BitShares probably have a pretty busy GitHub too by comparison I imagine. Title: Re: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: Eamorr on January 16, 2015, 04:09:00 PM What's your view on BitShares? I don't have much of an opinion.BitShares 11946 Topics https://github.com/BitShares My initial impression is thtat Also where did you get your stats on NXT? ???You say they have 108000 topics but according to nxtforum.org they only have 6516, big difference? nxtforum.org "General Discussion" has 53,000 posts alone. Also Dogecoin only has 9800 topics but you given them 40 000+? Please see doges.org, as cited.So BitShares may well have the most topics after Bitcoin then? Eh, no. Ok you're confusing posts and topics If you look at nxtforum.org scroll to bottom you'll see a forum stats option... NXT has 148711 posts and 6516 topics https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?action=stats BitShares has 168808 posts and 11946 topics No, nxtforum.org has 53,000 topics in "General Discussion" alone. 108,000 topics as of yesterday, when I last checked. Apologies for previous post, I meant "topics". Yes you are confused. They have 53000 posts (Not Topics - you are wrong) in 'general discussion' but only 1545 topics These contribute to their total of 148000 posts & 6516 topics BitShares has both more posts and topics than any of the others you mentioned, excl. Bitcoin & BitShares probably have a pretty busy GitHub too by comparison I imagine. Yes, you're right. My bad. nxtform.org doesn't have anywhere the number of topics I reported. I think coingecko's analysis is far, far superior to mine (http://www.coingecko.com) One thing I would say about coingecko: ripple's community is reported as being "forum.ripple.com". That's more for the developers and a place to talk directly to the employees. The real ripple talk takes place at xrptalk.org. This results in the "community activity" metric for Ripple being unfairly attenuated. Title: Re: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: FandangledGizmo on January 16, 2015, 04:17:28 PM What's your view on BitShares? I don't have much of an opinion.BitShares 11946 Topics https://github.com/BitShares My initial impression is thtat Also where did you get your stats on NXT? ???You say they have 108000 topics but according to nxtforum.org they only have 6516, big difference? nxtforum.org "General Discussion" has 53,000 posts alone. Also Dogecoin only has 9800 topics but you given them 40 000+? Please see doges.org, as cited.So BitShares may well have the most topics after Bitcoin then? Eh, no. Ok you're confusing posts and topics If you look at nxtforum.org scroll to bottom you'll see a forum stats option... NXT has 148711 posts and 6516 topics https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?action=stats BitShares has 168808 posts and 11946 topics No, nxtforum.org has 53,000 topics in "General Discussion" alone. 108,000 topics as of yesterday, when I last checked. Apologies for previous post, I meant "topics". Yes you are confused. They have 53000 posts (Not Topics - you are wrong) in 'general discussion' but only 1545 topics These contribute to their total of 148000 posts & 6516 topics BitShares has both more posts and topics than any of the others you mentioned, excl. Bitcoin & BitShares probably have a pretty busy GitHub too by comparison I imagine. Yes, you're right. My bad. nxtform.org doesn't have anywhere the number of topics I reported. I think coingecko's analysis is far, far superior to mine (http://www.coingecko.com) One thing I would say about coingecko: ripple's community is reported as being "forum.ripple.com". That's more for the developers and a place to talk directly to the employees. The real ripple talk takes place at xrptalk.org. This results in the "community activity" metric for Ripple being unfairly attenuated. Cool. Yeah you're right that coingecko site looks interesting will check it out a bit more. Title: Re: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: EvilDave on January 16, 2015, 06:02:19 PM CoinGecko gives a much more balanced view of how a crypto is doing than CMC, IMHO, and has a lot more info.
Top site.......! I was gonna correct the NXT forum topics/posts issue, but I see you guys have figured it out. Just to be completely anal, it's currently at: Quote 148750 Posts in 6517 Topics by 3564 Members. "Hippie movements", btw. Much LOL. Don't confuse a commitment to decentralisation with fuzzy headedness. NXT may not have German Barons to whip us into line, but hippies we ain't. (well, mostly) Title: Re: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: scv00 on January 16, 2015, 06:15:56 PM Does CoinGecko lisy more coins than Coinmarketcap?
Title: Re: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: bobster on February 12, 2015, 12:53:23 PM CoinGecko gives a much more balanced view of how a crypto is doing than CMC, IMHO, and has a lot more info. Thank you for thinking that CoinGecko is a top site ;DTop site.......! Does CoinGecko lisy more coins than Coinmarketcap? At the moment not yet but we are adding more coins each week. We track A LOT more metrics though!Title: Re: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: EvilDave on February 12, 2015, 08:28:14 PM @Bobster
I gotta admit, i do like Coingecko......even though NXT scores lower on aggregate there than on CMC, for example. (though i've just taken a look, NXT is #11 on CG, #10 on CMC today) I've been taking a look at lots of second generation crypto's lately, checking out the competition: http://i60.tinypic.com/10i89i9.jpg Here's the large version, btw: http://i61.tinypic.com/34qwynp.jpg An important metric that I'm not seeing on CoinGecko (or on the comparison chart) is the number of actual transactions per minute. This could give a useful indication of the real use and adoption for specific currencies, in addition to simple trading volumes. Title: Re: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: bobster on February 15, 2015, 09:11:02 AM @Bobster I gotta admit, i do like Coingecko......even though NXT scores lower on aggregate there than on CMC, for example. (though i've just taken a look, NXT is #11 on CG, #10 on CMC today) I've been taking a look at lots of second generation crypto's lately, checking out the competition: http://i60.tinypic.com/10i89i9.jpg Here's the large version, btw: http://i61.tinypic.com/34qwynp.jpg An important metric that I'm not seeing on CoinGecko (or on the comparison chart) is the number of actual transactions per minute. This could give a useful indication of the real use and adoption for specific currencies, in addition to simple trading volumes. WOW! That is an epic comparison chart for crypto 2.0 coins. Thanks for sharing! You are right that it would be good to list the number of actual transactions per minute. It is part of our long-term plan to track this metric! Title: Re: Altcoins - some anecdotal evidence Post by: wellerco on February 18, 2015, 06:13:18 PM Great chart.
A couple updates for Counterparty:
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