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Title: [Resolved] Dispute against -> lolwut
Post by: PTseller on July 19, 2012, 08:13:41 AM
Hi made a deal with with 1 guy on 13th July his username is - > lolwut

Profile Link - > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=49273

And when i asking for payment he not replying and after 3 days on 16th he reply me saying you asked me 3 BTC when the price of BTC is low from current rate i said we made a deal on 13th why don't you send me payment on same date ?? and after 3 days you saying BTC rate is has gone up and you want me to give you some discount huh ??  and i told him please send asap or i will complain to staff and still he is not sending me payment

Please Staff have a look on it i have proof and PM messages

Regards'
PTseller


Title: Re: Dispute against -> lolwut
Post by: lolwut on July 19, 2012, 12:50:40 PM
Hi made a deal with with 1 guy on 13th July his username is - > lolwut

Profile Link - > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=49273

And when i asking for payment he not replying and after 3 days on 16th he reply me saying you asked me 3 BTC when the price of BTC is low from current rate i said we made a deal on 13th why don't you send me payment on same date ?? and after 3 days you saying BTC rate is has gone up and you want me to give you some discount huh ??  and i told him please send asap or i will complain to staff and still he is not sending me payment

Please Staff have a look on it i have proof and PM messages

Regards'
PTseller

You sold me some bullshit torrent account. The site is awful and I refuse to pay you 3 btc at today rate, its not even close to worth that. If this gets me a scammer tag, oh well.


Title: Re: Dispute against -> lolwut
Post by: mcorlett on July 19, 2012, 12:53:53 PM
You sold me some bullshit torrent account. The site is awful and I refuse to pay you 3 btc at today rate, its not even close to worth that. If this gets me a scammer tag, oh well.
What was he supposed to give you/what did you agree to pay for?


Title: Re: Dispute against -> lolwut
Post by: lolwut on July 19, 2012, 12:58:35 PM
You sold me some bullshit torrent account. The site is awful and I refuse to pay you 3 btc at today rate, its not even close to worth that. If this gets me a scammer tag, oh well.
What was he supposed to give you/what did you agree to pay for?

I asked him what the best torrent site was for movies and tv and stuff. He tells me its "sceneaccess" so I agreed to pay 3btc for an invite on the 13th. The site sucks. I'm better off using demonoid.


Title: Re: Dispute against -> lolwut
Post by: RoloTonyBrownTown on July 19, 2012, 01:00:27 PM
Sounds like you owe him 3btc.


Title: Re: Dispute against -> lolwut
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on July 19, 2012, 01:06:20 PM
He did give you what you paid for.


Title: Re: Dispute against -> lolwut
Post by: BadBear on July 19, 2012, 01:07:25 PM
Sounds like you owe him 3btc.

Indeed, and it probably will end up getting you a scammer tag. You had an agreement, he fulfilled his end of the deal, and you're refusing to honor yours. Is it really worth 3 btc?


Title: Re: Dispute against -> lolwut
Post by: lolwut on July 19, 2012, 01:08:16 PM
Sounds like you owe him 3btc.

Indeed, and it probably will end up getting you a scammer tag. You had an agreement, he fulfilled his end of the deal, and you're refusing to honor yours. Is it really worth 3 btc?

It's such bullshit. He tells me I'm getting the fucking ferrari of torrent sites and it turns out to be a fucking datsun.


Title: Re: Dispute against -> lolwut
Post by: RoloTonyBrownTown on July 19, 2012, 01:10:24 PM
Just FYI,  the Ferrari of torrent sites is Usenet ;)


Title: Re: Dispute against -> lolwut
Post by: lolwut on July 19, 2012, 01:12:31 PM
Just FYI,  the Ferrari of torrent sites is Usenet ;)

Yes, I'm aware now :)

As PTSeller requested, I sent him back the account details so he can use it himself. I refuse to pay for something of such low quality, sorry if that hurts anyones feelings.


Title: Re: Dispute against -> lolwut
Post by: Explodicle on July 19, 2012, 01:50:16 PM
As PTSeller requested, I sent him back the account details so he can use it himself. I refuse to pay for something of such low quality, sorry if that hurts anyones feelings.
PTSeller, is it true that you accepted the return? If so, did either of you say anything about a refund before you requested it?


Title: Re: Dispute against -> lolwut
Post by: jwzguy on July 19, 2012, 03:12:30 PM
It's such bullshit. He tells me I'm getting the fucking ferrari of torrent sites and it turns out to be a fucking datsun.
If that's the analogy, you owe him 30BTC. Datsun created the highest selling sports car of all time. When the 240Z was released, it beat the 911 in SCCA racing and cost 1/3 the price. People used to buy them at sticker in CA and drive them across the country where they were harder to get, and sell them for 30% more.

So you're saying "I offered to overpay him for an Italian "super" car whose main value is as a status symbol, and instead I got incredible value for my money from the company who is most famous for reliability and savings."

 ;D

That being said, if he sold you the site in a misleading way, then that seems like a failure to deliver what he promised. Hard to sympathize with someone selling invites regardless.


Title: Re: Dispute against -> lolwut
Post by: PTseller on July 19, 2012, 04:43:23 PM

Ahh you made crazy by posting unwanted replies @ Staff i sold him invite and i donated there for invite the site don't give invite for free ! we have to donate there for invite and i did and after sending him invite i can see he come online everyday but he don't reply on 16 th he reply me back saying that "" sorry, i was mobile and my wallet is on my desktop. The price of bitcoin has gone up significantly in the past few days. please re-evaluate your pricing and I can send now ""  

here his pm on 16th

http://i.imgur.com/TOu41.jpg

but again he don't send the payment i requested him many times but again i got his reply and he saying tha market value is has gone up now  :( i said we made a deal on 13th on 16th you replying me by saying the market value is gone up huh ?? he is amazing never saw this kind of guy in my life


Anyways i request him to send me payment or send me account details



Title: Re: Dispute against -> lolwut
Post by: BadBear on July 19, 2012, 04:52:23 PM
Thanks for the clarification, and he did send you the account info? So it's settled?


Title: Re: Dispute against -> lolwut
Post by: PTseller on July 19, 2012, 04:57:27 PM
Thanks for the clarification, and he did send you the account info? So it's settled?

Hello BadBear yup i got account details will post again when account works fine :) thank you !!!


Title: Re: Dispute against -> lolwut
Post by: PTseller on July 19, 2012, 06:09:26 PM
Thanks for the clarification, and he did send you the account info? So it's settled?

Hello BadBear yup i got account details will post again when account works fine :) thank you !!!

Hello BadBear account working but he is seeding few torrents i pm him again to remove those torrents which he is seeding waiting for his reply :)


Title: Re: Dispute against -> lolwut
Post by: mcorlett on July 19, 2012, 11:01:36 PM
http://i.qkme.me/3q5rut.jpg


Title: Re: Dispute against -> lolwut
Post by: nedbert9 on July 19, 2012, 11:16:00 PM


*whistles innocently*


Title: Re: Dispute against -> lolwut
Post by: unclemantis on July 20, 2012, 12:38:06 AM
Friggin' pirates.

ARRRR!!!!!


Title: Re: Dispute against -> lolwut
Post by: cuz0882 on July 20, 2012, 02:26:09 AM
Why would someone pay for a torrent account? http://thepiratebay.se/ (http://thepiratebay.se/) is the best one. Although I find http://www.icefilms.info (http://www.icefilms.info) and http://www.2leech.com/ (http://www.2leech.com/) more useful. Plus, torrents are all monitored by companies like HBO now. I'm tired of their threat letters..


Title: Re: Dispute against -> lolwut
Post by: cuz0882 on July 20, 2012, 07:16:05 AM
I havn't downloaded anything in months but I never ever got a threat letter. Don't you use peerblock, or use any other ways to prevent them watching.

I believe a VPN is the only way to stop it. Even your internet provider can't watch your traffic. Large copyright holders seem to be distributing their own work through torrents. Then they just make a list of all the ip's downloading it. Then they contact your ISP. It's possible they are watching torrent traffic some other way, I have not really looked into it. They appear to only notice certain downloads. Recent releases, I wouldn't worry about anything over a year old. Also, if your not using a large ISP company like verizon or charter. You probably won't hear from them. Your ISP is not required to take any action without a court order, but you know how those large companies are...


Title: Re: Dispute against -> lolwut
Post by: deepceleron on July 20, 2012, 08:57:25 AM
I havn't downloaded anything in months but I never ever got a threat letter. Don't you use peerblock, or use any other ways to prevent them watching.

I believe a VPN is the only way to stop it. Even your internet provider can't watch your traffic. Large copyright holders seem to be distributing their own work through torrents. Then they just make a list of all the ip's downloading it. Then they contact your ISP. It's possible they are watching torrent traffic some other way, I have not really looked into it. They appear to only notice certain downloads. Recent releases, I wouldn't worry about anything over a year old. Also, if your not using a large ISP company like verizon or charter. You probably won't hear from them. Your ISP is not required to take any action without a court order, but you know how those large companies are...
You just need to download a blocklist of known bad IPs and use this in your torrent program - Vuze has an IP Filters option where you import the list. Bluetack distributes such a list, but since they are in "donation telethon" mode, here's a link to the July 10 list. (http://bitcoin.pdxweb.net/bt_level1.7z)

VPN (or whatever you think that means) won't do anything, as the "P" in P2P is peer - by the very definition, you are sharing with others you don't know, who can monitor your downloading - just making the connection with peers "secure" doesn't matter, since you can't "trust" anybody not to be the bad guys. You can block some suspect IP addresses though.

I'll bet somebody would have bought you a ticket to Spiderman for 3 BTC...


Title: Re: Dispute against -> lolwut
Post by: PTseller on July 20, 2012, 06:50:42 PM


Hello BadBear Please lock the thread :) all clear


Title: Re: Dispute against -> lolwut
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on July 20, 2012, 06:57:08 PM
VPN (or whatever you think that means) won't do anything, as the "P" in P2P is peer - by the very definition, you are sharing with others you don't know, who can monitor your downloading - just making the connection with peers "secure" doesn't matter, since you can't "trust" anybody not to be the bad guys. You can block some suspect IP addresses though.

What are you talking about?

By using a VPN proxy the bad seeders only get the VPN proxy address.  Your ISP ip address remains hidden to the entire p2p cloud.