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Economy => Gambling => Topic started by: jakers1976 on July 22, 2012, 02:56:08 AM



Title: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: jakers1976 on July 22, 2012, 02:56:08 AM
 ??? I've been waiting for my normal payout for a few days now on SatoshiDice, things seemed a little laggy and not quit right. I then realized that I was on "satoshidice.net" instead of my usual ".com" I think I may have just been scammed unless It's just me. Anyone know if the ".net" is legit?


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: MrTeal on July 22, 2012, 04:17:03 AM
Whois Server Version 2.0

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

   Domain Name: SATOSHIDICE.NET
   Registrar: TUCOWS.COM CO.
   Whois Server: whois.tucows.com
   Referral URL: http://domainhelp.opensrs.net
   Name Server: NS1.MDNSSERVICE.COM
   Name Server: NS2.MDNSSERVICE.COM
   Name Server: NS3.MDNSSERVICE.COM
   Status: clientTransferProhibited
   Status: clientUpdateProhibited
   Updated Date: 12-jul-2012
   Creation Date: 04-jul-2012
   Expiration Date: 04-jul-2013


Whois Server Version 2.0

Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

   Domain Name: SATOSHIDICE.COM
   Registrar: DIRECTI INTERNET SOLUTIONS PVT. LTD. D/B/A PUBLICDOMAINREGISTRY.COM
   Whois Server: whois.PublicDomainRegistry.com
   Referral URL: http://www.PublicDomainRegistry.com
   Name Server: HOST314419.EARTH.ORDERBOX-DNS.COM
   Name Server: HOST314419.MARS.ORDERBOX-DNS.COM
   Name Server: HOST314419.MERCURY.ORDERBOX-DNS.COM
   Name Server: HOST314419.VENUS.ORDERBOX-DNS.COM
   Status: clientTransferProhibited
   Updated Date: 18-apr-2012
   Creation Date: 18-apr-2012
   Expiration Date: 18-apr-2013


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: MrTeal on July 22, 2012, 04:19:09 AM
If they are, they used a new registrar for the new one.


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: evoorhees on July 22, 2012, 04:37:04 AM
We do not own satoshidice.net... I think you were scammed :(  Note the bet addresses are not the same as ours. This is the first time I've been made aware of this.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to deal with this?


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: Clipse on July 22, 2012, 04:43:57 AM
We do not own satoshidice.net... I think you were scammed :(  Note the bet addresses are not the same as ours. This is the first time I've been made aware of this.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to deal with this?

Contact satoshidice.net registrar and point out what happened, they can immediately suspend the domain atleast.


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: jakers1976 on July 22, 2012, 04:56:49 AM
We do not own satoshidice.net... I think you were scammed :(  Note the bet addresses are not the same as ours. This is the first time I've been made aware of this.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to deal with this?
You could maybe warn people on the real site to beware of the fake one. If you add copyright info to your site you could contact the hosting provider and ask them to take it down. Thanks for the confirmation about this.

Maybe add a report phishing link somewhere on page. Also report to search engines as phishing site. (eg. http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/report_phish and http://reports.internic.net/cgi/registrars/problem-report.cgi)
Anyhow thanks everyone for helping me out. :)


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: rate5 on July 22, 2012, 05:47:27 AM
We do not own satoshidice.net... I think you were scammed :(  Note the bet addresses are not the same as ours. This is the first time I've been made aware of this.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to deal with this?

You need to contact Tucows Inc - http://tucowsinc.com/ (http://tucowsinc.com/)

Main telephone: 416-535-0123
Main fax: 416-531-5584
Toll-free North America: 1-800-371-6992
Toll-free international: +800-371-69922

General email: info@tucows.com
Domain Name Disputes: compliance@opensrs.org


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: Stephen Gornick on July 22, 2012, 08:03:17 AM
Maybe add a report phishing link somewhere on page. Also report to search engines as phishing site. (eg. http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/report_phish and http://reports.internic.net/cgi/registrars/problem-report.cgi)
Anyhow thanks everyone for helping me out. :)

This can also be reported on:

 - http://toolbar.netcraft.com/report_url
 - http://www.mywot.com


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: payb.tc on July 22, 2012, 09:22:50 AM
some of the addresses are duplicates:

Quote
lessthan 1   1diceRnZQdTQcgnVV8dbwdZsBUUxFKHDj    0.0015%   64000.000x   1.844%   98.156%   0.0010   0.0125
lessthan 2   1dicefVGTnPpNjsf18znweJRucQjpmKmY    0.0031%   31621.125x   3.000%   97.000%   0.0010   0.0253
lessthan 4    1dicePT2t7fxuynyAQAZLkUpPqFW7986Z    0.0061%   15810.565x   3.000%   97.000%   0.0010   0.0506
lessthan 8   1diceyz2HB2J52imTN7hDXJg3D6VG4cW3    0.0122%   7905.285x   3.000%   97.000%   0.0010   0.1012
lessthan 16   1diceDAW9hYJyLMpSNbkxiKJs24oozhZm    0.0244%   3952.645x   3.000%   97.000%   0.0010   0.2024
lessthan 32   1diceGBbWowEHUTVEkq4r5VAMarjBVW7T    0.0488%   1976.325x   3.000%   97.000%   0.0010   0.4049
lessthan 64   1dicezcqmVtSYuqcZPCt175EmHgJxZhDU    0.0977%   988.165x   3.000%   97.000%   0.0010   0.8104
lessthan 128   1dicexL3WyjkT7qKMxV2MbTfbU5eKvD6K    0.1953%   494.085x   3.000%   97.000%   0.0010   0.9330
lessthan 256    1diceX9JEhmLY7LQuokdsRc92nYgrvH7B    0.3906%   247.045x   3.000%   97.000%   0.0010   1.8699
lessthan 512   1diceKKajW7D8aCBzi9WWezkU6jjEcz7x    0.7813%   123.525x   3.000%   97.000%   0.0010   3.7551
lessthan 1000   1diceWNgrkZgqWEaMR1gQCG76naxWJAi5    1.5259%   63.247x   3.000%   97.000%   0.0010   7.3913
lessthan 1500   1diceX44fTH8gtUQC82aqRTZ4zuqQ4BK9    2.2888%   42.166x   3.000%   97.000%   0.0010   11.1764
lessthan 2000   1diceZcAHDw6p8DARm1639oxFB8n1MDE2    3.0518%   31.626x   3.000%   97.000%   0.0010   15.0229
lessthan 3000   1diceCMf7LNEyFLib3CurhiFkndVLhmsN    4.5776%   21.086x   3.000%   97.000%   0.0010   14.5457
lessthan 4000   1dicevuq7g9wAJALNLcx2dxCD9xE62qMT    6.1035%   15.816x   3.000%   97.000%   0.0010   19.7199
lessthan 6000   1diceho7xpQNcmFs5wCdcr9TSB21N16rk    9.1553%   10.545x   3.000%   97.000%   0.0010   25.0000
lessthan 8000   1dicextD8ntPfh8BRBw4dZMhoGEbiWv4E    12.2070%   7.910x   3.000%   97.000%   0.0010   25.0000
lessthan 12000   1diceSmk1Lfk3mKbV52H7iDLKGCCCjr4C    18.3105%   5.275x   3.000%   97.000%   0.0010   25.0000
lessthan 16000   1dicecKBZ2GPt4PjpRwsEEYkCqzuFFn5u    24.4141%   3.958x   3.000%   97.000%   0.0010   25.0000
lessthan 24000   1dicePC9pjKPgvxm7XH8gjhqwxYMtWx2a    36.6211%   2.640x   3.000%   97.000%   0.0010   25.0000
lessthan 32000   1diceZcAHDw6p8DARm1639oxFB8n1MDE2    48.8281%   1.981x   3.000%   97.000%   0.0010   25.0000
lessthan 32768   1dicezcqmVtSYuqcZPCt175EmHgJxZhDU    50.0000%   1.935x   3.000%   97.000%   0.0010   25.0000
lessthan 48000   1dicePT2t7fxuynyAQAZLkUpPqFW7986Z    73.2422%   1.323x   3.000%   97.000%   0.0010   25.0000

as of this post, those addresses have received a total of 0.414 BTC. owner is obviously some kind of master criminal.


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: FreeMoney on July 22, 2012, 09:24:35 AM
You beat me to it, I just checked the addresses, it's not bad yet, but I think it's a sign of things to come. Be really carefully who you send to.


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: koin on July 22, 2012, 10:03:18 AM
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to deal with this?

ddos

you can even pay for it with bitcoins


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: opticbit on July 22, 2012, 10:22:52 AM
how much can be made off satoshidice.org ?

but seriously

how about longer vanitygen addresses

is there a way to pool vanity gen, maybe we can give legit causes some hash power?

<excuses> its saturday and i've had a few drinks ignore any stupidity. </excuses>


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: JoelKatz on July 22, 2012, 10:55:02 AM
??? I've been waiting for my normal payout for a few days now on SatoshiDice, things seemed a little laggy and not quit right. I then realized that I was on "satoshidice.net" instead of my usual ".com" I think I may have just been scammed unless It's just me. Anyone know if the ".net" is legit?
Do you have any idea how you wound up at this site? Did you type it in by mistake or was it linked or advertised somewhere?


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: evoorhees on July 22, 2012, 01:05:29 PM
??? I've been waiting for my normal payout for a few days now on SatoshiDice, things seemed a little laggy and not quit right. I then realized that I was on "satoshidice.net" instead of my usual ".com" I think I may have just been scammed unless It's just me. Anyone know if the ".net" is legit?
Do you have any idea how you wound up at this site? Did you type it in by mistake or was it linked or advertised somewhere?

Yeah this is a good question...


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: Deafboy on July 22, 2012, 02:37:41 PM
You can use WOT plugin for firefox to give it bad rating. If enough people do that, it will raise a warning at least for other WOT users.


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: jakers1976 on July 22, 2012, 04:42:22 PM
??? I've been waiting for my normal payout for a few days now on SatoshiDice, things seemed a little laggy and not quit right. I then realized that I was on "satoshidice.net" instead of my usual ".com" I think I may have just been scammed unless It's just me. Anyone know if the ".net" is legit?
Do you have any idea how you wound up at this site? Did you type it in by mistake or was it linked or advertised somewhere?

Man I wish I could remember where exactly but I clicked an advertisement to get there. Normally I would have used the link I have saved in my browser but unfortunately I was using an alternate web browser at the time.


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: dooglus on July 23, 2012, 12:08:55 AM
If you look in the history on the browser you used, you should be able to see where you were immediately before you visited the scam site.


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: jakers1976 on July 23, 2012, 08:42:42 AM
If you look in the history on the browser you used, you should be able to see where you were immediately before you visited the scam site.
Nope portable firefox


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: FreeMoney on July 23, 2012, 09:46:58 AM
If you look in the history on the browser you used, you should be able to see where you were immediately before you visited the scam site.
Nope portable firefox

Hmm, were you browsing to new bitcoin sites around that time or ones you visit often? How do you find bitcoin sites? googling or directories?


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: jakers1976 on July 24, 2012, 07:31:27 AM
Actually I was surfing checking out other sites and clicked an ad somewhere that said it was SatoshiDice so you clicked the ad to get there rather than typing it in myself. It's my fault for being lazy at the time. This has woke me up to paying more attention to what I'm doing. In all honesty If I would have just used the payments from my address-book I would have been fine. It's all a learning experience for sure. :)


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: gbl08ma on July 24, 2012, 01:59:19 PM
Then either the ad was on an advertising network, or stick to the page you were visiting.
Assuming it was posted on some advertising network (and the publisher of the page you were visiting is not affiliated with the ad in any way). I'd say it is more likely to be on some of the few active advertising networks accepting Bitcoin.
I searched...
Anonymous Ads: There is no SatoshiDice ad there other than one that points to their official .com domain. So no scam here.
BitcoinAdvertisers/BitcoinAdvertising: There's an image ad for SatoshiDice and, after clicking it on a website, I see that it also redirects to satoshidice.com
Operation Fabulous: It's hard for me to check which ads are being shown, and the advertiser chooses in which websites to advertise making it even harder.
CoinURL: I couldn't find a SatoshiDice ad there...
Dailybitcoins (they have their own advertisements system): It's hard to search for ads but from what I could see, there's nothing SatoshiDice-related there.
CoinAd: No SatoshiDice ad that I could see.
(if anyone knows of more places where people can advertise that the OP may have visited, please post)
BitVisitor: no SatoshiDice ad as of now.

Either I was (un)lucky enough not to see the scam ad on any of these websites, or it may have been removed already, or it is on any other advertising network, or it may be in no network and be just posted to some page. There are many possibilities but if nobody searches we'll never be able to find exactly which ad/website it was that the OP clicked.

Firefox portable doesn't log history? I believe it does, except in incognito mode (or whatever it is called in FF).


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: Ricochet on July 25, 2012, 02:44:24 AM
I was duped by this as well, and I believe it was when using BitVisitor to see some page that had 4 ad links on it for various Bitcoin related things.  Same as the OP, I just said "eh I'll just click the link rather than going to the site manually" and was suspicious when my 0.3 bet had no return change at all.  I found a Reddit post a day or two ago that warned about this scam (possibly sourced from this thread) and realized I'd been had.

I went through the Bitvisitor cycle again today and found the exact page I believe I got the first time, but this time none of the four links were to this scam site, but it could still be in the random rotation.

Note that I was pretty heavily inebriated at the time, so I may be misremembering some of the details.  Pretty sure I'm right here though, as my transaction list shows 2-3 incoming transactions from BitVisitor on either side of the outgoing SatoshiDice transaction, and BitVisitor is pretty good about paying out almost immediately rather than queueing a bunch of transactions at once like most other similar sites.

EDIT:  if you're interested, this is the transaction that I was duped at, thank goodness I only gave away 0.3 BTC to the guy.  http://blockexplorer.com/tx/324c16db46b1a6bd5f785711c209b75c3559b73df1e4d4c94b6b3c2922800aee


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: payb.tc on July 25, 2012, 03:06:29 AM
heh, nice logo image on that site:

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/satoshidice/logo.png


thank goodness I only gave away 0.3 BTC to the guy.

i think you almost doubled his income.


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: sadpandatech on July 25, 2012, 03:09:49 AM
You can use WOT plugin for firefox to give it bad rating. If enough people do that, it will raise a warning at least for other WOT users.

+1000 ; adding a complaint now. suggest more do the same while we wait for Mr. Vorhess DMCA complaint to go through.

heh, nice logo image on that site:

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/satoshidice/logo.png


thank goodness I only gave away 0.3 BTC to the guy.

i think you almost doubled his income.


and HAHA. was he leeching the logo?


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: payb.tc on July 25, 2012, 04:12:55 AM
and HAHA. was he leeching the logo?

yes, but apparently forgot to leech (or even include anywhere) the CSS files.

times new roman everywhere!


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: OgNasty on July 25, 2012, 04:29:57 AM
I lose 90% of the time on satoshidice.com and I only bet on the 75%+ addresses.  Maybe I should try satoshidice.net.


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: dooglus on July 25, 2012, 04:36:20 AM
I lose 90% of the time on satoshidice.com and I only bet on the 75%+ addresses.  Maybe I should try satoshidice.net.

They should add an "I bet I'm going to lose" feature:  Include a payment to yourself of 0.00666666 BTC and then all the bets in that transaction become "over x" instead of "under x".  For those like OgNasty who can't help rolling high numbers.


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: sadpandatech on July 25, 2012, 04:57:51 AM
and HAHA. was he leeching the logo?

yes, but apparently forgot to leech (or even include anywhere) the CSS files.

times new roman everywhere!


hehe, maybe they skipped the class on using http cloning software properly. ;p


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: mem on July 25, 2012, 05:08:53 AM
Added satoshidice.net to my scam list, this will not the the last of these I think.


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: samadamsbeer on August 07, 2012, 06:03:15 PM
You can also report to the search engines, like here: http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/report_phish/


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on August 08, 2012, 03:36:33 PM
Anybody curious as to what other site was created on that day using the same server? http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?domain=bitpantry.com&isc=ALEXADOM (the affiliate name is not relative, for I used Google instead of being on Godaddy to find the Whois)

Quote
Domain name: BITPANTRY.COM

Administrative Contact:
er, test domains6355@gmail.com
3356 Tully Street
Detroit, MI 48219
US
+1.3136277303
Technical Contact:
Admin, Domain DomainSupport@homestead-inc.com
2632 Marine Way
Mountain View, CA 94043
US
+1.8004283170

Registration Service Provider:
Intuit Websites, DomainSupport@homestead-inc.com
+1.8004283170
This company may be contacted for domain login/passwords,
DNS/Nameserver changes, and general domain support questions.

Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 04-Jul-2012.
Record expires on 05-Jul-2013.
Record created on 05-Jul-2012.

The Tully address does not exist and the women running it supposedly grew up in Oklahoma but writes flavor as flavour. I have linked added findings to some guy named Ryan in Melbourne, but will hold back on that now in fear of being label a nut, then having my ignore label color turn a deeper 4th of July fire-cracker orange, created to sockpuppets with a 100+ post count.

The hope the relative information I provided above, Evoorhees, aids in your investigation.

Later, all.

~Bruno~


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: sadpandatech on August 08, 2012, 04:56:23 PM

Registration Service Provider:
Intuit Websites, DomainSupport@homestead-inc.com
+1.8004283170
This company may be contacted for domain login/passwords,
DNS/Nameserver changes, and general domain support questions.

Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 04-Jul-2012.
Record expires on 05-Jul-2013.
Record created on 05-Jul-2012.


except the first one registered directly through tucows and this one used the third part site creation and reg tool Homestead. The only similarity here is the date and that godaddy and homestead both used tucows to reg through...


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: littleblackhat on August 20, 2012, 02:58:27 AM
bitpantry.com was probably doing the same thing to btcpantry.com as satoshidice.net was doing to satoshidice.com, so I think it could easily be the same person/people. In any case, both of the sites are down now.


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: BitPantry on September 02, 2012, 05:31:17 AM
bitpantry.com was probably doing the same thing to btcpantry.com as satoshidice.net was doing to satoshidice.com, so I think it could easily be the same person/people. In any case, both of the sites are down now.

Hi, I'd just like to point out that the reason bitpantry.com has been down and the registrar information seems strange can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=100544.0

Additionally, the woman (singular, not plural) running it did in fact grow up in Oklahoma, but has an affection for spelling words like 'flavor' and 'color' as 'flavour' and 'colour' just because it appeals to her (that would be me).  The Ryan mentioned above is not in, and never has been in Melbourne, he is my husband, runs www.quickbitcoins.net, and we're both in the U.S.  Hope that clears up some of the confusion here.



Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: Dudeperfect on August 14, 2016, 07:11:28 PM


Issued in Public Interest


I am declaring myself a new owner of this domain name from this moment (15 August 2016) till any transfer of this domain name.

I am really sorry for your loss. Being a domainer, I personally think someone misused this domain and you got in his trap. Let me clear, I have no relation with anyone involved in this as I bought this domain directly from registrar.

I am hereby discarding any past liability associated with this domain.  I donít like spam, so I wonít use any such cheap practice as far as domain is in my possession.


- Dudeperfect 


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Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: rampagejackson on August 14, 2016, 07:33:01 PM
If you don't like spam and won't use cheap practices....

Why the hell are you sitting on someone elses business name in a different domain extension?

There is zero legitimate interest in you having this.


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: Dudeperfect on August 14, 2016, 07:43:55 PM
If you don't like spam and won't use cheap practices....

Why the hell are you sitting on someone elses business name in a different domain extension?

There is zero legitimate interest in you having this.

Since concerned domain in thread is now part of my portfolio, I considered it necessary and I gave my declaration. I donít think, I am liable to answer any other questions related with my business.


Title: Re: Does satoshidice.com own satoshidice.net? Or have I just been scammed?
Post by: Dudeperfect on February 25, 2017, 06:05:11 AM
Update : I am making this domain name available for sale. I will post a further update if there is any change in possession of the domain name.

This is just to inform everyone about the activity regarding the domain name.

Hello Folks,

I am making available my following domain name for sale. Please reply with your offer in PM or in the form available on the domain.


SatoshiDice dot net
 (http://satoshidice.net)

http://media.coindesk.com/uploads/2013/07/satoshi-dice-sold1.jpg

I am always ready to use escrow so don't worry about the security. We can use Bitcoin or Paypal or other reliable payment options.

Best
Dudeperfect