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Title: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: scox on February 06, 2015, 01:33:34 AM
 Lets just feed all of your anti terrorism american shit:
http://bitforum.info/t/millions-worth-of-bitcoins-might-be-utilized-by-isis/204

Thats the link you will all like. BTC & ISIS. What about that.

Didnt see many comments about the Middle East situation recently so lets make a thread about them using BTC to legitimate it in this forum XD

Comment!


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: oblivi on February 06, 2015, 02:30:44 AM
Old news, this has already been posted, more press for bitcoin even if bad one.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: zimmah on February 06, 2015, 02:35:50 AM
Isis is just a puppet of the U.S. government.

The USA has done nothing but instal puppet governments and terrorist groups around the world to fight their wars for them and give them an excuse to invade certain countries.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: Bitware on February 06, 2015, 02:37:33 AM
ISIS uses exponentially more fiat cash than bitcoins.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: AgentofCoin on February 06, 2015, 03:17:32 AM
Lets just feed all of your anti terrorism american shit:
http://bitforum.info/t/millions-worth-of-bitcoins-might-be-utilized-by-isis/204

Thats the link you will all like. BTC & ISIS. What about that.

Didnt see many comments about the Middle East situation recently so lets make a thread about them using BTC to legitimate it in this forum XD

Comment!

It has already been proven, beyond a doubt, that terrorists are using Monero.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: finlon on February 06, 2015, 03:23:24 AM
ISIS uses exponentially more fiat cash than bitcoins.

Well, thats been always a case. But no, we always have people complaining about bitcoin that way.

maybe, if they see some members of the ISIS eating twinkies, they will be threads for that too :P , and a ban to follow.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: tadakaluri on February 06, 2015, 03:49:24 AM
There’s a grain of truth in this story. It’s certainly true that terrorists—like those affiliated with Islamic State—are looking at crypto-currencies as a means to move money without spies and law enforcement agencies tracking them.

The concept that bitcoin could be used to help fund terrorists has been a long-standing concern among law enforcement and government agencies worldwide. Indeed, many restrictions placed on the use of digital currencies stem from these concerns.

Bitcoin makes it difficult for anti-terrorist financing authorities to stop transactions from taking place. Services such as DarkWallet were specifically cited as methods for making bitcoin payments between terrorists even more untraceable.

Terrorist funders may find bitcoin and other digital currencies attractive owing to the broad supervision and monitoring of the global financial system. Specifically, in the post-9/11 world, many governments actively watch for suspicious money movements.

By using bitcoin, ISIS and other organizations could circumvent legal barriers that keep money away from terrorists. The digital currency’s borderless transaction capabilities and avoidance of major money conduits make it a logical fit for terrorists – and a likely target for law enforcement officials concerned about this exact application.

Bitcoin presents tax evasion benefits as well.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: ajaxmoor on February 06, 2015, 04:46:23 AM
I always thought bad publicity is Publicity as well.
So shouldn't be worried from any such news,


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: vennali on February 06, 2015, 04:55:19 AM
I always thought bad publicity is Publicity as well.
So shouldn't be worried from any such news,

yeah mate ..Any publicity is good publicity. :)


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: scox on February 06, 2015, 05:17:39 PM
I always thought bad publicity is Publicity as well.
Love this. Great thinking.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on February 06, 2015, 05:58:46 PM
they use Bitcoin? Great news for the law enforcement!


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: tacotime on February 06, 2015, 06:00:17 PM
It has already been proven, beyond a doubt, that terrorists are using Monero.

In what world? People barely even use Monero to play dice games.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: fluffypony on February 06, 2015, 06:04:56 PM
It has already been proven, beyond a doubt, that terrorists are using Monero.

In what world? People barely even use Monero to play dice games.

Terrorists clearly need to play dice games too!


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: cozk on February 06, 2015, 08:37:17 PM
I heard ISIS take aspirin when they have a headache. Also use Microsoft programs and maybe Nike shoes.

Damn lets all boycott and ban everything.

FFS that is retarded.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: slaveforanunnak1 on February 06, 2015, 10:05:16 PM
I'm getting so sick of these noO0Bs and their ISIS/BTC threads.

"Yo.. i heard ISIS be drinking water yo! what should we do??? "


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: cakir on February 06, 2015, 10:07:53 PM
I'm getting so sick of these noO0Bs and their ISIS/BTC threads.

"Yo.. i heard ISIS be drinking water yo! what should we do??? "

I think those newbies are just spamming this forum with the domain of "bitforum.info"

Forum administration should nuke those spammer newbies...


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: AtheistAKASaneBrain on February 06, 2015, 10:32:11 PM
I'm getting so sick of these noO0Bs and their ISIS/BTC threads.

"Yo.. i heard ISIS be drinking water yo! what should we do??? "
It sucks because it scares newbs away. As a newb years ago i was scared of bitcoin due the silk road crime news stuff.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: Meuh6879 on February 06, 2015, 10:37:54 PM
Ask : ISIS use bitcoin
Answer : USA use drone with paper money printer to kill people
Answer : Europe sell armory to fighter in isreal

OK ...  ::)
media mass is very ... pathetic.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: oblivi on February 07, 2015, 12:14:02 AM
Ask : ISIS use bitcoin
Answer : USA use drone with paper money printer to kill people
Answer : Europe sell armory to fighter in isreal

OK ...  ::)
media mass is very ... pathetic.

Mass media lives off flashy headlines, cant blame them.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: Bralex on February 07, 2015, 12:16:44 AM
It really doesnt surprise me, butcoin is an easy way to send money to people without it being easily traceable to a person/s


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: vennali on February 07, 2015, 01:42:04 AM
It really doesnt surprise me, butcoin is an easy way to send money to people without it being easily traceable to a person/s

true mate.. at least they have figured out the positives pretty well..


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on February 07, 2015, 01:45:58 AM
So, let's quickly find their address and start digging.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: rfcdejong on February 17, 2015, 10:06:05 PM
Aren't they just called IS lately? I think world war III is around the corner, sick world! IS using bitcoin is new news for me, even if others say it's old i never heard of it before..


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: Snipe85 on February 17, 2015, 10:26:33 PM
We should be happy, bitcoin is freedom so everybody have the right to use it, right? The more people use it the better, and ISIS claims to be a country, so...  ;D


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: bf4btc on February 17, 2015, 10:37:01 PM
ISIS uses exponentially more fiat cash than bitcoins.

^^^ They take over citys and parts of country's so far the size of the UK in the middle east and that includes the multiple banks and business's within, so the comment above stands they own truck loads of money! They have not brought into bitcoin as an organization yet because if they did the price would be stupidly high!

The dark web stuff that article talks about are common scammers getting bitcoin from the gullible/crazys who think they are contributing to it, the fact is they do not need a penny raised they have enough and will continue to have enough the more they take.

They need stopping. 


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: moriartybitcoin on February 17, 2015, 11:19:20 PM
ISIS does NOT need Bitcoins man .. they got OIL.  Lots and lots of oil ..


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: neurotypical on February 17, 2015, 11:29:41 PM
These illiterate towelheads will never be able to operate a wallet.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: countryfree on February 17, 2015, 11:46:09 PM
Yes, IS people are using BTC to watch porn!


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: croato on February 18, 2015, 01:04:12 AM
It is hilarious ppl are more concerned what currency isil uses than what weapons they use and who sell them.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: calme on February 18, 2015, 01:53:56 AM
Maybe too much emphasis is being put on using BTC for remittances and there should be more efforts to educate terrorists about BTC. You never read about BTC conferences in Baghdad or Mogadishu.   :-[


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: seoincorporation on February 18, 2015, 02:03:08 AM
ISIS uses exponentially more fiat cash than bitcoins.

Im agree with you, bitcoin is just another coin for ISIS, and if it has a value they will use it.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: cubanos on February 18, 2015, 02:35:57 PM
Lets just feed all of your anti terrorism american shit:
http://bitforum.info/t/millions-worth-of-bitcoins-might-be-utilized-by-isis/204

Thats the link you will all like. BTC & ISIS. What about that.

Didnt see many comments about the Middle East situation recently so lets make a thread about them using BTC to legitimate it in this forum XD

Comment!

ISIS are too dumb to use Bitcoin. lol


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: Melds on February 18, 2015, 02:39:05 PM
ISIS uses Euro and US dollars, too. Only thing this could do is be used in one of those ignorant "btc helps terrorists" arguments meanwhile banks launder drug money freely.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: Grand_Voyageur on February 18, 2015, 02:43:34 PM
Lets just feed all of your anti terrorism american shit:
http://bitforum.info/t/millions-worth-of-bitcoins-might-be-utilized-by-isis/204

Thats the link you will all like. BTC & ISIS. What about that.

Didnt see many comments about the Middle East situation recently so lets make a thread about them using BTC to legitimate it in this forum XD

Comment!

BTC is simply a medium, it's not evil or good by itself. I'm also sure BTC are also used by Intelligence agencies to transfer money needed to fund & operate some clandestine ops abroad since you may swiftly transfer funds without too much publicity.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: drbrock on February 18, 2015, 03:44:06 PM
These illiterate towelheads will never be able to operate a wallet.

Oh yeah like Amirikkkans can operate a wallet haha

ISIS does NOT need Bitcoins man .. they got OIL.  Lots and lots of oil ..

Oh don't forget they have Mossad-CIA-MI5 as backing also. ISIS is just another extension of CIA - remember how Dumb old US of A wanted to bomb another country (I think it was Syria although its hard to keep track of Empire's Scezophrnia), well they got denied so ooops here's ISIS

In the Old tradition of "towel heads" - DEATH TO AMERIKA!!!!


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: AtheistAKASaneBrain on February 18, 2015, 03:49:23 PM
These illiterate towelheads will never be able to operate a wallet.

Oh yeah like Amirikkkans can operate a wallet haha

ISIS does NOT need Bitcoins man .. they got OIL.  Lots and lots of oil ..

Oh don't forget they have Mossad-CIA-MI5 as backing also. ISIS is just another extension of CIA - remember how Dumb old US of A wanted to bomb another country (I think it was Syria although its hard to keep track of Empire's Scezophrnia), well they got denied so ooops here's ISIS

In the Old tradition of "towel heads" - DEATH TO AMERIKA!!!!
AFAIK most bitcoin business are happening in America..


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: drbrock on February 19, 2015, 12:33:49 AM
These illiterate towelheads will never be able to operate a wallet.

Oh yeah like Amirikkkans can operate a wallet haha

ISIS does NOT need Bitcoins man .. they got OIL.  Lots and lots of oil ..

Oh don't forget they have Mossad-CIA-MI5 as backing also. ISIS is just another extension of CIA - remember how Dumb old US of A wanted to bomb another country (I think it was Syria although its hard to keep track of Empire's Scezophrnia), well they got denied so ooops here's ISIS

In the Old tradition of "towel heads" - DEATH TO AMERIKA!!!!
AFAIK most bitcoin business are happening in America..

AFAIK most ISIS funding comes from America too ;)


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: |Bitcoin| on February 19, 2015, 02:11:44 AM
Why will ISIS use Bitcoin? If ISIS is going to look for a new sources of Money.. I think darkcoin or any anonymous coin will be better.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: ericjarvies on February 19, 2015, 08:07:23 AM
You all seem to be missing a very important point... no matter what cryptocurrency is or is not being used, or which one is better to use, invariably they are only worth using if they can be cashed-out (or cashed-in) without being subject to monitoring/control.

Digital currency value is based upon the value of a given fiat currency (the reverse is not true).  So, if subversive agents are trying to move money from one country to another by way of a digital currency, they are stuck with the problem of how to move physical fiat currency between both countries.  

For example, let's assume a drug dealer moves his drugs from Mexico to the United States, and then collects his fiat currency in the states, for it to be of any value to him he must then get that fiat currency back into Mexico.  It would be easier for the drug dealer to smuggle the fiat currency back into Mexico then it would be to convert that fiat currency into Bitcoin (or whatever), because in order to get it into Bitcoin, the drug dealer must expose himself to either MSBs or Banks, and both of these are government controlled in that they must report such activity.  But lets assume the drug dealer has a considerable network of people that can travel throughout a given state (or states) and in small amounts deposit said money and convert to Bitcoin, you then have the problem of who in Mexico is going to cash out that Bitcoin back to fiat currency in MXN?  Remember, whatever company in Mexico that is capable of cashing BTC to MXN is going to have to report said transaction(s), and they themselves will need to have the banking wherewithal to exchange those BTC (which means they must sell them, which means an external/third party digital exchange with banking capabilities must be used) so they can get their fiat cash back (both principal and whatever profit percentage they made on the BTC to USD transaction).  This requires wire transfers, and wire transfers are subject to each government's rule.

The example drug dealer moving fiat currency from the US to MX (USD to BTC to MXN) is the simpler of examples, because border MSBs and Banks can use truck transports to move fiat currency across the border, though all of it must be reported just the same.  But when you have two countries that are separated by water, then things become much more difficult, because sizable amounts of fiat currency is bulky and heavy and if not reported is subject to confiscation (why are you moving physical fiat instead of using the banking system to wire the money?).  So the only effective way to move fiat currency is by way of the bank system (wire transfers), and so you are back to square one, in that it simply does not matter what cryptocurrency you use because at the end of the day it is only worth something if it can be exercised in fiat form.  

Although smaller amounts of fiat currency is much easier to move between countries from one bank to another using wire transfers, in the case of ISIS or any terrorist or subversive group or drug dealer or those wishing to move lots of money without detection, Bitcoin simply is not a viable route to take... it is much safer to take fiat currency in one country like the US, purchase a large amount of commodity, and then have that commodity shipped to another country, where it is sold and at which time one can cash out.  Although this route also has its perils, it is still far easier then the Bitcoin route.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: rememberme on February 19, 2015, 08:16:41 AM
I just got the confirmation, they use dogecoin.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: avw1982 on February 19, 2015, 08:17:36 AM
I just got the confirmation, they use dogecoin.

Let's make a piggycoin. Then we're sure they won't use that one.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: koelen3 on February 19, 2015, 09:56:52 AM
I just got the confirmation, they use dogecoin.

What confirmation?


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: rememberme on February 19, 2015, 10:07:43 AM
I just got the confirmation, they use dogecoin.

What confirmation?


Such moon Much doge confirmed.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: koelen3 on February 19, 2015, 10:23:26 AM
I just got the confirmation, they use dogecoin.

What confirmation?


Such moon Much doge confirmed.

What confirmation are you actually saying that relates DOGE with being used by ISIS


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: noma on February 19, 2015, 10:38:33 AM
ISIS would be better off using drk coin , rather than using bitcoin, for anonymity.
Doge coin is the last coin they would use :P Would be hard to dump millions in that amount.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: ALXBOB on February 19, 2015, 10:39:46 AM
ISIS would be better off using drk coin , rather than using bitcoin, for anonymity.
Doge coin is the last coin they would use :P Would be hard to dump millions in that amount.

lol


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: Kprawn on February 19, 2015, 10:43:36 AM
Why do they want to use BTC?

There are other coins out there with more annonymity features. The best thing is to leave them to use whatever they think, might be the most annonymous option, and then to trace the money to it's roots.

Where is this world going to, when you have to cut off people's heads and burn them in cages to make a religious statement?

The hate in humans for each other are so intense, that they justify these actions as being "correct"


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: AtheistAKASaneBrain on February 19, 2015, 08:03:18 PM
ISIS would be better off using drk coin , rather than using bitcoin, for anonymity.
Doge coin is the last coin they would use :P Would be hard to dump millions in that amount.

lol

Actually DRK can be attacked by attacking the nodes.
They cant attack Monero in any possible way AFAIK.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: thejaytiesto on February 19, 2015, 08:34:39 PM
Ring signatures can't be attacked as far as i've understood from reading the whitepapers.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: manselr on February 19, 2015, 08:51:33 PM
ISIS would be better off using drk coin , rather than using bitcoin, for anonymity.
Doge coin is the last coin they would use :P Would be hard to dump millions in that amount.
Doge is too cute to ever be used by filthy terrorists.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: Bralex on February 19, 2015, 11:39:38 PM
I just got the confirmation, they use dogecoin.

Let's make a piggycoin. Then we're sure they won't use that one.

Looks like we have a coin they would not use then as there is already a 'porkcoin' trading on bittrex and a new piggy coin trading on poloniex  ;D

For the people that took the doge coin confirmation seriously above me you made me laugh ahaha


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: el kaka22 on February 20, 2015, 12:54:08 AM
they use bitcoin to buy weapons on black market?  ???


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: empowering on February 20, 2015, 01:36:05 AM
My bum uses more Bitcoin than ISIS. ffs


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: bryant.coleman on February 20, 2015, 05:28:11 AM
My bum uses more Bitcoin than ISIS. ffs

lol... it is not easy for ISIS to convert BTC to weapons or other stuff. The Bitcoin scene is not much developed in Turkey, from where most of their weapons are coming through.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: Prez_K on February 20, 2015, 05:32:46 AM
yeah mate ..Any publicity is good publicity  ;D


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: Hazir on February 20, 2015, 05:42:23 AM
You guys seems surprised that at this day and age someone is using cryptocurrencies. So what if it's ISIS, terrorists or normal people? It is inevitable, bitcoin it is just a standard tool like normal fiats are. Nothing new, nothing surprising. Just reality.


Title: Re: ISIS Using Bitcoins :o
Post by: stellar69 on February 20, 2015, 06:24:12 AM
Lets just feed all of your anti terrorism american shit:
http://bitforum.info/t/millions-worth-of-bitcoins-might-be-utilized-by-isis/204

Thats the link you will all like. BTC & ISIS. What about that.

Didnt see many comments about the Middle East situation recently so lets make a thread about them using BTC to legitimate it in this forum XD

Comment!
I don't know even if they use bitcoin then where the problem is?
Bitcoin can be used by anyone and everyone.