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Title: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: MVitaliyB on July 24, 2012, 09:41:32 AM In this subject https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16385.2700 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16385.2700), the user of https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=8198 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=8198) arrived most not decently. It posted in the Internet private correspondence. His behavior isn't worthy behavior of the adult person.
For the remaining users condemning me I will tell the following: If you on operation for oversights are given out awards, prompt me such operation, I with pleasure will work there! For site Administration: I ask to punish this user, for publication of private correspondence! Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Raoul Duke on July 24, 2012, 09:57:22 AM Thanks for posting those links. It's very clear who the scammer is: YOU.
You didn't get overpaid because the money was sent to you automatically, you pressed a button and willingly stole money from a pool who was helping you make money. Don't try and turn it the other way around. You are a thief. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Raoul Duke on July 24, 2012, 10:31:47 AM So, I got a PM from Mr. Vitaliy:
The thief, it is loudly told. The thief - is that who undertakes efforts, for this purpose, what to steal! I specially didn't do anything, possibility was provided by Inaba! I don't try to justify, this my judgement! But to post in the Internet private correspondence is not cultural! Well, dude, yes you did something to steal the money: You pressed a fucking button and asked for the money to be sent to your wallet when you knew perfectly you weren't entitled to it. You are a thief, wether you want it or not, that's the right name for persons like you. <Moderator Hat> I'm unlocking this thread. Bitcointalk.org isn't your playground, seeing that you only registered today, and if you accuse someone you better give people the chance to answer. </Moderator Hat> Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Inaba on July 24, 2012, 12:50:52 PM I'm sorry you feel that I somehow violated your privacy MVitaliyB, but the fact is you intentionally stole nearly 100 BTC from the pool. You pressed the cashout button over 100 times for the ~ 7 hours the bug was active. You knew it was a bug and you repeatedly exploited it to gain as many BTC as you could. In fact, you also created two additional accounts, on top of the two you already had to try and gain more BTC. Thankfully you were unable to steal any more BTC with your two newly created accounts since the bug only affected unconfirmed BTC on unvalidated blocks, and your two new dummy accounts were unable to generate any/enough unconfirmed BTC for your to acquire illicitly.
For those interested as to what this person is talking about: Last weekend, EMC suffered a bug that increased users unconfirmed BTC. The only way to acquire this BTC was to intentionally use a feature called "Cashout" that pays the user for unconfirmed BTC and their unrealized DGM score. Before I was notified of the bug, the pool wallet was drained of nearly 1200 BTC... this particular user was able to get a hold of ~100 BTC of it through exploiting the cashout button, which he knew at the time was erroneous, so he intentionally stole the funds and knew he was stealing the funds at the time. When I contacted him (Vitaliy Maxorin) about returning the funds, he responded with this: Quote Good day! I myself am a programmer and I know for myself that for financial losses incurred due to errors in the source code the programmers are paid out of his pocket. I myself have several times carried a financial loss because of their mistakes. But no I will not reimburse my losses. I understand your request as a man, but I think it is not appropriate as a colleague. Excuse me, but I do not return the money you lost. So not only did he know about the bug and knew he was exploiting it, he even basically gloats about it. Somehow it's not "appropriate" that I ask him to return funds he stole. I don't follow the logic, but logic of thieves is rarely coherent, so I haven't really given it much thought. The claim that "I specially didn't do anything" is completely false, as you had to use the cashout button, and you did so over 100 times, which indicates you clearly knew something was wrong. Due to this fact, I don't see that you deserve any measure of privacy when it comes to financial/BTC matters, and in fact, everyone should know that you, Vitaliy Maxorin (mvitaliyb@mail.ru), are dishonest and a thief. Everyone should be aware of that when dealing with you, so they know that if they enter into a business arrangement with you that you will likely steal their money or goods if given the opportunity. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: stoppots on July 24, 2012, 01:14:57 PM Oh love this, and so early in the morning. Let me get my shit together I will be back.
Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: MVitaliyB on July 24, 2012, 01:26:47 PM Dear Inaba!
You say lies a little! In the first. On my a purse arrived transfers, because of YOUR mistake, for total amount of 47 BTC. It is not necessary to speak that I stole at you 100 BTC, it is lie! In the second. I didn't register that day other accounts on your service! It too lie! I registered next day 1 account what to check it my operating account is frozen or again your service is buggy! I will boil. I don't consider an event as theft, since. You allowed to take away from you 47 BTC. And that you do what to give, all the same, to the passerby of $100 and when it will depart on 10 meters to start to shout that he is a thief! It meanly and not adequately respect! Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: DeathAndTaxes on July 24, 2012, 01:31:31 PM Hey MVitaliyB you are a theif and a scumbag.
Stop making tortured analogies. It isn't someone giving you money. It is you taking money that didn't belong to you. Proper analogies would be a) you come across a safe and notice someone left it unlocked so you open it and "help" yourself to the money inside = THIEF b) you are walking down the street and notice $500 hanging out of someone pocket so you take it since they didn't protect it = THEIF c) you use your ATM card and the bank screws up and links you to a different persons account. You withdraw $100 realize that you have access to someone elses account so you go back and withdraw $100 more ... 10 times = THIEF Quote I don't consider an event as theft, since. You allowed to take away from you 47 BTC. And likewise if you forget to lock your door and someone comes inside and steals everything you own it isn't theft right? You allowed them to do so. Better yet if someone puts a gun in your face and you "allow" them to take your wallet it isn't a theft either. I mean you could/should have stopped him. You are a thief and a scumbag. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: cyberlync on July 24, 2012, 01:49:20 PM Thief.
Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: John (John K.) on July 24, 2012, 01:51:53 PM In this subject https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16385.2700 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16385.2700), the user of https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=8198 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=8198) arrived most not decently. It posted in the Internet private correspondence. His behavior isn't worthy behavior of the adult person. For the remaining users condemning me I will tell the following: If you on operation for oversights are given out awards, prompt me such operation, I with pleasure will work there! For site Administration: I ask to punish this user, for publication of private correspondence! Dear Inaba! Anyone with any sense of right and wrong would consider you a thief. You should be embarrassed of yourself, Vitaliy Maxorin. Your parents brought you up just to steal from others.You say lies a little! In the first. On my a purse arrived transfers, because of YOUR mistake, for total amount of 47 BTC. It is not necessary to speak that I stole at you 100 BTC, it is lie! In the second. I didn't register that day other accounts on your service! It too lie! I registered next day 1 account what to check it my operating account is frozen or again your service is buggy! I will boil. I don't consider an event as theft, since. You allowed to take away from you 47 BTC. And that you do what to give, all the same, to the passerby of $100 and when it will depart on 10 meters to start to shout that he is a thief! It meanly and not adequately respect! Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: MVitaliyB on July 24, 2012, 02:08:20 PM I created this subject not for this purpose, what before someone to justify and I am not going to justify, since I read what there is nothing. And the subject is created for this purpose that Inaba would remove private correspondence from the general look!
And by the way, here my purse 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR, all of you can look at the amount which came to it, and in order to avoid charges that I withdrew on other purse, directly I will write that function was switched on by "Payout Lock ACTIVE!" and within 24 hours I couldn't deduce funds for other purse! Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: stoppots on July 24, 2012, 03:04:02 PM Vitali I would like to ask you if you can try a different translator. Alot of misunderstanding and verbage is being lost and misused in translation.
http://imtranslator.net/compare/english/to-russian/translation/ This one here seems to help by offering 4 different but similiar translations. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: MVitaliyB on July 24, 2012, 03:12:35 PM Forgive, if to you the sense isn't clear, I not so well know English and I use on-line the translator.
Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Inaba on July 24, 2012, 04:21:45 PM So if I am lying, I look forward to your explanation for this:
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14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 3.44045666 2012-07-21 16:49:35 62.33.13.241 MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 0.09175162 2012-07-21 16:52:46 62.33.13.241 MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 3.47058937 2012-07-21 17:07:09 62.33.13.241 MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 0.00004725 2012-07-21 17:07:15 62.33.13.241 MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 0.00016531 2012-07-21 17:07:19 62.33.13.241 MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 0.05805212 2012-07-21 17:07:32 62.33.13.241 MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 0.00011811 2012-07-21 17:07:39 62.33.13.241 MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 0.00096383 2012-07-21 17:09:05 62.33.13.241 MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 0.00080059 2012-07-21 17:09:34 62.33.13.241 MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 0.02890931 2012-07-21 17:39:28 62.33.13.241 MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 0.00129037 2012-07-21 17:40:40 62.33.13.241 MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 0.00593370 2012-07-21 17:46:43 62.33.13.241 MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 0.00089316 2012-07-21 17:48:04 62.33.13.241 MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 0.00009446 2012-07-21 17:48:10 62.33.13.241 MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 0.00082346 2012-07-21 17:48:51 62.33.13.241 MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 0.00098640 2012-07-21 17:50:12 62.33.13.241 MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 0.00752580 2012-07-21 17:58:53 62.33.13.241 MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 0.00894576 2012-07-21 17:59:58 62.33.13.241 MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 0.00177949 2012-07-21 18:01:51 62.33.13.241 MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 0.00953936 2012-07-21 18:10:49 62.33.13.241 MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 0.04220782 2012-07-21 19:16:38 62.33.13.241 MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 0.00103466 2012-07-21 19:16:53 62.33.13.241 MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 0.00748406 2012-07-21 19:28:29 62.33.13.241 MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 0.00747566 2012-07-21 20:21:37 62.33.13.241 MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 0.00140630 2012-07-21 21:23:07 62.33.13.241 MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 0.00218375 2012-07-22 08:38:59 78.36.234.206 sam0784 1DK47m8oMshafKVVZ49KWHxapjRsa13Sky 45.89509287 2012-07-21 10:26:39 217.150.40.229 sam0784 1DK47m8oMshafKVVZ49KWHxapjRsa13Sky 5.88096063 2012-07-21 10:51:21 217.150.40.229 sam0784 1DK47m8oMshafKVVZ49KWHxapjRsa13Sky 6.07576631 2012-07-21 11:16:42 217.150.40.229 sam0784 1DK47m8oMshafKVVZ49KWHxapjRsa13Sky 1.55139642 2012-07-21 11:23:25 217.150.40.229 sam0784 1DK47m8oMshafKVVZ49KWHxapjRsa13Sky 0.95537631 2012-07-21 11:45:14 217.150.40.229 sam0784 1DK47m8oMshafKVVZ49KWHxapjRsa13Sky 1.37307166 2012-07-21 14:43:38 217.150.40.229 sam0784 1DK47m8oMshafKVVZ49KWHxapjRsa13Sky 14.60287904 2012-07-21 17:20:32 217.150.40.229 Also, the account "VMahorin" registered on the 21st, during the bug, from the same ip addresses you use. Your browser finger print is: 5d7d5cf33a4b8000f160a1029ff0f3fbf67277aba5b033d6824bbdec1dd63e51 "VMahorin" also has the exact same fingerprint. It's very rare for one browser the same the same finger print as another, it's almost impossible if it comes from the same IP, unless it's the same browser/computer. You also registered one other account on the same day, near the same time: "samson53" ... again from the same IP address. The browser finger print was different, but I suspect that's because you used a different computer or a different browser so you could multi-exploit accounts at the same time, since Cashout can't be automated, and it needs you to push the button & the EMC website won't let you login multiple accounts from the same browser. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: MVitaliyB on July 24, 2012, 04:47:36 PM I one am confused by your log, unless 2 different purses and 2 different persons aren't visible that there!
Look itself at arrivals at my purse. To me to hide нeчeo! http://blockexplorer.com/address/14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR (http://blockexplorer.com/address/14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR) As not cunning manipulations with Excel showed that the amount on my purse of 77,22396967 BTC. And all reached not, or you didn't lock payment directly as saw a glitch? Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: MVitaliyB on July 24, 2012, 04:51:08 PM And that you didn't attribute to me also the 3rd account from my city? On it the same of about 50 BTC was deduced! The truth it is very convenient to write off everything on one person who decided honest to you to respond to the letter instead of to ignore it?
Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: MVitaliyB on July 24, 2012, 04:57:36 PM The account Vmahorin it wash, but I did it, whether what to check it is buggy a site or my account is frozen. From it at all there were no attempts that or to deduce! Even the purse wasn't bound to it!
And other accounts it not mine! Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: John (John K.) on July 24, 2012, 05:01:06 PM I one am confused by your log, unless 2 different purses and 2 different persons aren't visible that there! Look itself at arrivals at my purse. To me to hide нeчeo! http://blockexplorer.com/address/14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR (http://blockexplorer.com/address/14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR) As not cunning manipulations with Excel showed that the amount on my purse of 77,22396967 BTC. And all reached not, or you didn't lock payment directly as saw a glitch? MVitaliyB 14SVwVHF6gHhSdX7aUDGrfWqkoukeoqhZR 0.01768944 2012-07-05 18:50:05 217.150.40.229 sam0784 1DK47m8oMshafKVVZ49KWHxapjRsa13Sky 45.89509287 2012-07-21 10:26:39 217.150.40.229 sam0784 1DK47m8oMshafKVVZ49KWHxapjRsa13Sky 5.88096063 2012-07-21 10:51:21 217.150.40.229 sam0784 1DK47m8oMshafKVVZ49KWHxapjRsa13Sky 6.07576631 2012-07-21 11:16:42 217.150.40.229 sam0784 1DK47m8oMshafKVVZ49KWHxapjRsa13Sky 1.55139642 2012-07-21 11:23:25 217.150.40.229 sam0784 1DK47m8oMshafKVVZ49KWHxapjRsa13Sky 0.95537631 2012-07-21 11:45:14 217.150.40.229 sam0784 1DK47m8oMshafKVVZ49KWHxapjRsa13Sky 1.37307166 2012-07-21 14:43:38 217.150.40.229 sam0784 1DK47m8oMshafKVVZ49KWHxapjRsa13Sky 14.60287904 2012-07-21 17:20:32 217.150.40.229 IP is the same. Add the time in the mix and I daresay you're nabbed red-handed. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Clipse on July 24, 2012, 05:01:19 PM And that you didn't attribute to me also the 3rd account from my city? On it the same of about 50 BTC was deduced! The truth it is very convenient to write off everything on one person who decided honest to you to respond to the letter instead of to ignore it? Take it like a man and confess that you fucked up and want to make things right by sending inaba the coins back. Inaba is providing accurate evidence compared to your own heresay so just send the coins back to inaba that you deliberately tried to steal and lets move on from this crap. PS. you must know someone who is fluent in english, get them to post for you since its really messy trying to follow your posts and I want to take in as much of the lolness as possible. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: stoppots on July 24, 2012, 05:05:48 PM The thief, it is loudly told. The thief - is that who undertakes efforts, for this purpose, what to steal! I specially didn't do anything, possibility was provided by Inaba! I don't try to justify, this my judgement! But to post in the Internet private correspondence is not cultural! Quote from: MVitaliyB I specially didn't do anything, possibility was provided by Inaba! You especially were the one who did the specific thing of executing the cashout to have the BTC sent to you. This BTC was never earned by your mining with the pool. Your miners did not contribute the work needed for it to belong to you.Had you done nothing at all it would have been possible for Inaba to correct the problem and the BTC that belonged to him would never of been sent to you. Quote from: MVitaliyB is not cultural! So in your culture is it accepted to take advantage of people and take something that does not belong to you. To take wat is not yours from the person it belongs to? Is this how your parents raised you as a child? Is this how you raise your children to be?In your culture, is this how you treat each other? Is this wat other people in your culture do to you? Is this why you think it is ok to try and justify wat you are doing to Inaba? Please explain wat justification you have for manually executing the cashout option 100 times over a 15 hour period. In our culture we see the reason for this being to take the BTC that did not belong to you. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: MVitaliyB on July 24, 2012, 05:05:58 PM Sadly that you didn't find time to check the address at all!
62.33.13.241 % This is the RIPE Database query service. % The objects are in RPSL format. % % The RIPE Database is subject to Terms and Conditions. % See http://www.ripe.net/db/support/db-terms-conditions.pdf % Note: this output has been filtered. % To receive output for a database update, use the "-B" flag. % Information related to '62.33.12.0 - 62.33.13.255' inetnum: 62.33.12.0 - 62.33.13.255 netname: TELESETI-PLUS-NET descr: (MS003389) teleseti plus, descr: Pechori, Russia country: RU admin-c: SAI19-RIPE tech-c: SAI19-RIPE status: ASSIGNED PA mnt-by: TRANSTELECOM-MNT source: RIPE # Filtered % Information related to '62.33.0.0/20AS20485' route: 62.33.0.0/20 descr: RU-TRANS-TELECOM descr: Moscow origin: AS20485 mnt-by: TRANSTELECOM-MNT source: RIPE # Filtered % This query was served by the RIPE Database Query Service version 1.19 (WHOIS1) 217.150.40.229 % This is the RIPE Database query service. % The objects are in RPSL format. % % The RIPE Database is subject to Terms and Conditions. % See http://www.ripe.net/db/support/db-terms-conditions.pdf % Note: this output has been filtered. % To receive output for a database update, use the "-B" flag. % Information related to '217.150.40.0 - 217.150.40.255' inetnum: 217.150.40.0 - 217.150.40.255 netname: TTK-PtP-NET5 descr: Transtelecom point-to-point interfaces country: RU admin-c: KTTK-RIPE tech-c: KTTK-RIPE status: ASSIGNED PA remarks: INFRA-AW mnt-by: TRANSTELECOM-MNT source: RIPE # Filtered % Information related to '217.150.32.0/20AS20485' route: 217.150.32.0/20 descr: RU-TRANS-TELECOM-20010213 origin: AS20485 mnt-by: TRANSTELECOM-MNT source: RIPE # Filtered % This query was served by the RIPE Database Query Service version 1.19 (WHOIS2) Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Clipse on July 24, 2012, 05:19:14 PM Sadly that you didn't find time to check the address at all! 62.33.13.241 % This is the RIPE Database query service. % The objects are in RPSL format. % % The RIPE Database is subject to Terms and Conditions. % See http://www.ripe.net/db/support/db-terms-conditions.pdf % Note: this output has been filtered. % To receive output for a database update, use the "-B" flag. % Information related to '62.33.12.0 - 62.33.13.255' inetnum: 62.33.12.0 - 62.33.13.255 netname: TELESETI-PLUS-NET descr: (MS003389) teleseti plus, descr: Pechori, Russia country: RU admin-c: SAI19-RIPE tech-c: SAI19-RIPE status: ASSIGNED PA mnt-by: TRANSTELECOM-MNT source: RIPE # Filtered % Information related to '62.33.0.0/20AS20485' route: 62.33.0.0/20 descr: RU-TRANS-TELECOM descr: Moscow origin: AS20485 mnt-by: TRANSTELECOM-MNT source: RIPE # Filtered % This query was served by the RIPE Database Query Service version 1.19 (WHOIS1) 217.150.40.229 % This is the RIPE Database query service. % The objects are in RPSL format. % % The RIPE Database is subject to Terms and Conditions. % See http://www.ripe.net/db/support/db-terms-conditions.pdf % Note: this output has been filtered. % To receive output for a database update, use the "-B" flag. % Information related to '217.150.40.0 - 217.150.40.255' inetnum: 217.150.40.0 - 217.150.40.255 netname: TTK-PtP-NET5 descr: Transtelecom point-to-point interfaces country: RU admin-c: KTTK-RIPE tech-c: KTTK-RIPE status: ASSIGNED PA remarks: INFRA-AW mnt-by: TRANSTELECOM-MNT source: RIPE # Filtered % Information related to '217.150.32.0/20AS20485' route: 217.150.32.0/20 descr: RU-TRANS-TELECOM-20010213 origin: AS20485 mnt-by: TRANSTELECOM-MNT source: RIPE # Filtered % This query was served by the RIPE Database Query Service version 1.19 (WHOIS2) Yes, you are a genius, now do this: google for public proxy 217.150.40.229 and you will find that all the summary hits is related to russian public proxy on that ip. Id go so far to say that if its not used as a public proxy then you likely signed in from some transparent proxy at your home internet connection where the 62.33.13.241 ip is likely related to your static internet IP at whatever company you work. Damn you figured you would be super clever by making it seem like it is a huge conspiracy, you sir are SCUM. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: stoppots on July 24, 2012, 05:20:27 PM Use the link bro http://imtranslator.net/compare/english/to-russian/translation/ Purse - A small bag used esp. by a woman to carry everyday personal items ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Иcпoльзyйтe ccылкy бpaтaн http://imtranslator.net/compare/english/to-russian/translation/ Кoшeлeк - мaлeнькaя cyмкa, иcпoльзyeмaя ocoбeннo жeнщинoй, чтoбы нecти кaждoднeвныe личныe пyнкты Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: MVitaliyB on July 24, 2012, 05:44:22 PM Can believe can not, your case, but sam0784 and samson53 accounts are not mine!
Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Gabi on July 24, 2012, 05:46:05 PM That's why normal pools should disappear and why people should switch to p2pool ::) good luck having a bug where everytime you press a button you receive btc with p2pool ::)
Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Inaba on July 24, 2012, 06:05:20 PM Please explain how your browser finger print is identical between the two accounts, then? Let me give you a hint: It's not likely, the chance is about 1 in about 4.2 billion.
Lets multiply that by the chance that someone with the same browser finger print just happned to be mining on the pool.. then by the chance that they just happened to use the same IP address.. then by the chance that they just happened to login at the same time as you... and by the chance that they just happened to use the same exploit you were using. That's a pretty big number. If you're really that lucky, why aren't you a billionaire from playing the lottery? Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Vladimir on July 24, 2012, 06:08:45 PM thief is a thief is a thief
Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Sant001 on July 24, 2012, 06:15:41 PM In this subject https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16385.2700 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16385.2700), the user of https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=8198 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=8198) arrived most not decently. It posted in the Internet private correspondence. His behavior isn't worthy behavior of the adult person. For the remaining users condemning me I will tell the following: If you on operation for oversights are given out awards, prompt me such operation, I with pleasure will work there! For site Administration: I ask to punish this user, for publication of private correspondence! You walked away with his money and you think he should just shut up and keep your dishonesty a secret? You're a funny man. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Vladimir on July 24, 2012, 06:17:35 PM Look like this gentleman masters neither English nor basic sense of right and wrong. And it seems that given the confession a scammer tag could be a well deserved here. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Sant001 on July 24, 2012, 06:23:50 PM In this subject https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16385.2700 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16385.2700), the user of https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=8198 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=8198) arrived most not decently. It posted in the Internet private correspondence. His behavior isn't worthy behavior of the adult person. For the remaining users condemning me I will tell the following: If you on operation for oversights are given out awards, prompt me such operation, I with pleasure will work there! For site Administration: I ask to punish this user, for publication of private correspondence! How about your return the coins to Inaba and then you can ask him to remove any messages that offended you. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: MVitaliyB on July 24, 2012, 06:30:03 PM Dear Inaba!
If I do not hide, what have received 47 BTC having used your mistake, what for to me to deny, what other 2 accounts mine? In what sense? And the sense is not present! THEY NOT mine! Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Clipse on July 24, 2012, 06:33:17 PM Dear Inaba! If I do not hide, what have received 47 BTC having used your mistake, what for to me to deny, what other 2 accounts mine? In what sense? And the sense is not present! THEY NOT mine! Look let me put this delecately for you. Pay back the coins you received due to a bug on eclipsemining pool or face being treated like a scammer. If you dont understand that, then it amazes me that you managed to live this long without getting murdered by your own shadow. PS. Get someone to translate what you want to say here, your gibberish english is useless. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: MrTeal on July 24, 2012, 06:57:52 PM Unless you do this when you're 7 years old, in normal society, My (barely) two year old can't even string together complete sentences yet and even he knows that if he takes someone's toy without asking and is asked for it back that he needs to return it. I can't imagine that google translate has botched the translation that badly.this usually means you go to jail for a while and carry the stigma of being a person to be avoided for the rest of your life. Do you understand what "THIEF" means now ? Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: John (John K.) on July 24, 2012, 07:00:08 PM Can believe can not, your case, but sam0784 and samson53 accounts are not mine! Browser fingerprint alone is damning, not to mention the IP coincidences. Vitaliy Maxorin (mvitaliyb@mail.ru), pay up or be a thief for the rest of your life - you know you deserved it. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Maged on July 24, 2012, 10:17:10 PM Unless you do this when you're 7 years old, in normal society, My (barely) two year old can't even string together complete sentences yet and even he knows that if he takes someone's toy without asking and is asked for it back that he needs to return it. I can't imagine that google translate has botched the translation that badly.this usually means you go to jail for a while and carry the stigma of being a person to be avoided for the rest of your life. Do you understand what "THIEF" means now ? http://www.gwu.edu/~ieresgwu/assets/docs/demokratizatsiya%20archive/07-02_pope.pdf Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: zvs on July 24, 2012, 11:58:43 PM well, I was willing to give the guy a chance
but, yeah, he knowingly took goods that he knew he hadn't earned, i.e. robbed someone = thief if the local radio shack forgets to lock up, it doesnt make it right (or legal) for me to go in there and take what i want Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: MVitaliyB on July 25, 2012, 07:36:34 AM Even on the logs, provided by Inaba, with moments of first disbursement, and the second took place ~ 1:30, when I made the first payment I saw even the amount that was paid, I saw it only in his wallet. And it says that it was by chance that subsequent payments were specifically, I do not deny this! You can take me by anyone, your right, but I do not consider myself a thief. Return the 47 BTC I can not, they're gone, spent. But if you are satisfied with this solution, ready to expose Donation of 20%. Over time they will return to you, but I do not need to ascribe to someone else, I printed 47 BTC, the rest of the other person!
Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: BadBear on July 25, 2012, 07:47:16 AM but I do not consider myself a thief. Return the 47 BTC I can not, they're gone, spent. You should be ashamed of yourself. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Bitcoin Oz on July 25, 2012, 07:50:02 AM Even on the logs, provided by Inaba, with moments of first disbursement, and the second took place ~ 1:30, when I made the first payment I saw even the amount that was paid, I saw it only in his wallet. And it says that it was by chance that subsequent payments were specifically, I do not deny this! You can take me by anyone, your right, but I do not consider myself a thief. Return the 47 BTC I can not, they're gone, spent. But if you are satisfied with this solution, ready to expose Donation of 20%. Over time they will return to you, but I do not need to ascribe to someone else, I printed 47 BTC, the rest of the other person! Reported for scamming. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: zvs on July 25, 2012, 11:20:29 AM but I do not consider myself a thief. Return the 47 BTC I can not, they're gone, spent. You should be ashamed of yourself. well, i'm pretty sure he just said he'd mine @ 20% donation rate until the 47 BTC was repayed didnt he? Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: JTurner on July 25, 2012, 12:57:26 PM In this subject https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16385.2700 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16385.2700), the user of https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=8198 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=8198) arrived most not decently. It posted in the Internet private correspondence. His behavior isn't worthy behavior of the adult person. I'm just puzzled by something: it's not okay to publish a 4-line message you receive BUT it's okay to steal 47 BTC? This doesn't sound right...[...] For site Administration: I ask to punish this user, for publication of private correspondence! Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: organofcorti on July 25, 2012, 01:38:22 PM But if you are satisfied with this solution, ready to expose Donation of 20%. Over time they will return to you, but I do not need to ascribe to someone else, I printed 47 BTC, the rest of the other person! but I do not consider myself a thief. Return the 47 BTC I can not, they're gone, spent. You should be ashamed of yourself. well, i'm pretty sure he just said he'd mine @ 20% donation rate until the 47 BTC was repayed didnt he? No, i think he said Inaba should up the donations to 20% in general. Maybe? He's doesn't seem to be referring to himself int he statement anyway. Could be a bad translation. MVitaliyB: Are you asking Inaba to accept 20% donations: 1. From you (if you mine at Eclipse in future); or 2. From all miners until outstanding btc is returned? If 1. then I doubt you'll mine at Eclipse again; Inaba loses. If 2. then you're asking other miners to pay for you. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: SteamGamesBTC.com on July 25, 2012, 01:55:43 PM Cool story. Is it really hard to reach an agreement without this trash? MVitaliyB, just call the police. Hehe, sorry I could not resist laughing.
Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Sant001 on July 25, 2012, 02:38:37 PM but I do not consider myself a thief. Return the 47 BTC I can not, they're gone, spent. You should be ashamed of yourself. well, i'm pretty sure he just said he'd mine @ 20% donation rate until the 47 BTC was repayed didnt he? That would that quite a while to repay wouldn't it? He should buy BTC at market and pay back. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: MVitaliyB on July 25, 2012, 03:05:01 PM Other option of return I can not offer.
Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Vladimir on July 25, 2012, 03:07:02 PM Other option of return I can not offer. Repayment plan is better than outright theft. Do pay it back in installments, make an arrangement and stick to it. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: DeathAndTaxes on July 25, 2012, 03:14:08 PM well, i'm pretty sure he just said he'd mine @ 20% donation rate until the 47 BTC was repayed If someone stole $1,000 from you and then agree to repay you $0.20 per day would that make it ok? You will get your money back (minus any interest) in 5,000 or so days. Of course that assumes they don't just stop repayment given they are a criminal. I mean 20% really? Even if repayment made it ok where does 20% come into the equation. How about 100%? IT IS STOLEN MONEY. On what planet is a thief given the option to extend "repayment" of stolen funds by 500%? and then people should be happy about it? "Oh thank you Mr. thief for repaying at 20% donation not 10% or 1%." Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: DeathAndTaxes on July 25, 2012, 03:15:41 PM Other option of return I can not offer. You choose not to return it. You can't get a second job, set aside some % of your paycheck, return the item you bought, sell possessions, sell the item you bought with stolen funds, offer to mine at 100% donation, etc? Really? You really expect people to believe it PHYSICALLY impossible for you to return the funds you stole in any other manner than a 20% donation on future mining. You stole money and choose not to repay it. There is no CAN NOT. You are choosing to remain a thief, liar, and piece of shit! Lets stop pretending ok. Obviously nobody can force you to return the funds but be a man and be honest (at least to yourself) about your complete lack of morals. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Inaba on July 25, 2012, 03:20:30 PM I would, of course, rather have a repayment plan for 47 BTC than nothing. But yes, I suspect that would take quite awhile. Your sum total of payments since you signed up in early July is 14 BTC, at 20% it would take over 2 years, so it' not realistic. I suspect that if the price of BTC went up, you'd stop repaying anyway because it would end up costing you quite a bit more.
In fact, if you were to buy the BTC back right now, you'd come out ahead on the exchange rate anyway. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: MVitaliyB on July 25, 2012, 03:40:19 PM On your service I received 1,5 BTC in day. 1,5*0,2=0,3 BTC in day. 47/0,3=157 days. About 5 months. And considering that in a way new BFL that quicker than 5 months.
Or you accept option of others more? Which simply keep silent! Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Clipse on July 25, 2012, 05:09:57 PM On your service I received 1,5 BTC in day. 1,5*0,2=0,3 BTC in day. 47/0,3=157 days. About 5 months. And considering that in a way new BFL that quicker than 5 months. Or you accept option of others more? Which simply keep silent! So the following is true then: 1.) You noticed the bug and tried to steal as much BTC as possible. 2.) You then immediately went on to spend this withdrawn BTC. 3.) You then decided to deny doing any of this. 4.) You then accepted the facts that you did steal the BTC and still havnt returned it. 5.) You now make a proposal to inaba for how he could eventually recover the fund. Its not acceptable to offer repayment of stolen funds over 157days minimum, with increase difficulty that would likely be closer to 200+ days. Either you pay back what you stole right now or you will be treated as a criminal in this community, its as simple as that. If you can lie outright from the start, do you expect inaba to believe anything you state now ? Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: MVitaliyB on July 25, 2012, 05:26:31 PM On your service I received 1,5 BTC in day. 1,5*0,2=0,3 BTC in day. 47/0,3=157 days. About 5 months. And considering that in a way new BFL that quicker than 5 months. Or you accept option of others more? Which simply keep silent! So the following is true then: 1.) You noticed the bug and tried to steal as much BTC as possible. 2.) You then immediately went on to spend this withdrawn BTC. 3.) You then decided to deny doing any of this. 4.) You then accepted the facts that you did steal the BTC and still havnt returned it. 5.) You now make a proposal to inaba for how he could eventually recover the fund. Its not acceptable to offer repayment of stolen funds over 157days minimum, with increase difficulty that would likely be closer to 200+ days. Either you pay back what you stole right now or you will be treated as a criminal in this community, its as simple as that. If you can lie outright from the start, do you expect inaba to believe anything you state now ? 1. I asked not you. 2. I never denied that I managed 47 BTC, from for errors, perfect Inaba. 3. And the most important, me absolutely all the same that people unfamiliar to me think of me! I offered the candidate solution of the current situation! Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Clipse on July 25, 2012, 05:27:07 PM On your service I received 1,5 BTC in day. 1,5*0,2=0,3 BTC in day. 47/0,3=157 days. About 5 months. And considering that in a way new BFL that quicker than 5 months. Or you accept option of others more? Which simply keep silent! So the following is true then: 1.) You noticed the bug and tried to steal as much BTC as possible. 2.) You then immediately went on to spend this withdrawn BTC. 3.) You then decided to deny doing any of this. 4.) You then accepted the facts that you did steal the BTC and still havnt returned it. 5.) You now make a proposal to inaba for how he could eventually recover the fund. Its not acceptable to offer repayment of stolen funds over 157days minimum, with increase difficulty that would likely be closer to 200+ days. Either you pay back what you stole right now or you will be treated as a criminal in this community, its as simple as that. If you can lie outright from the start, do you expect inaba to believe anything you state now ? 1. I asked not you. 2. I never denied that I managed 47 BTC, from for errors, perfect Inaba. This is not the time to be cocky in broken gibberish english. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: MVitaliyB on July 25, 2012, 05:31:09 PM On your service I received 1,5 BTC in day. 1,5*0,2=0,3 BTC in day. 47/0,3=157 days. About 5 months. And considering that in a way new BFL that quicker than 5 months. Or you accept option of others more? Which simply keep silent! So the following is true then: 1.) You noticed the bug and tried to steal as much BTC as possible. 2.) You then immediately went on to spend this withdrawn BTC. 3.) You then decided to deny doing any of this. 4.) You then accepted the facts that you did steal the BTC and still havnt returned it. 5.) You now make a proposal to inaba for how he could eventually recover the fund. Its not acceptable to offer repayment of stolen funds over 157days minimum, with increase difficulty that would likely be closer to 200+ days. Either you pay back what you stole right now or you will be treated as a criminal in this community, its as simple as that. If you can lie outright from the start, do you expect inaba to believe anything you state now ? 1. I asked not you. 2. I never denied that I managed 47 BTC, from for errors, perfect Inaba. This is not the time to be cocky in broken gibberish english. It is not pleasant? Welcome here! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=10.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=10.0) Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: vampire on July 25, 2012, 05:41:25 PM It is not pleasant? Welcome here! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=10.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=10.0) The only time you said a Russian word - you misspelled it! Btw it's "нeчeгo" Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: MVitaliyB on July 25, 2012, 05:47:05 PM It is not pleasant? Welcome here! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=10.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=10.0) The only time you said a Russian word - you misspelled it! Btw it's "нeчeгo" Moя твoя нe пoнимaть! Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: vampire on July 25, 2012, 05:50:13 PM It is not pleasant? Welcome here! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=10.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=10.0) The only time you said a Russian word - you misspelled it! Btw it's "нeчeгo" Moя твoя нe пoнимaть! Bce c тoбoй пoнятнo. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: MVitaliyB on July 25, 2012, 05:52:51 PM It is not pleasant? Welcome here! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=10.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=10.0) The only time you said a Russian word - you misspelled it! Btw it's "нeчeгo" Moя твoя нe пoнимaть! Bce c тoбoй пoнятнo. Пoкaжи, гдe я этo нaпиcaл! Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: vampire on July 25, 2012, 06:37:36 PM It is not pleasant? Welcome here! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=10.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=10.0) The only time you said a Russian word - you misspelled it! Btw it's "нeчeгo" Moя твoя нe пoнимaть! Bce c тoбoй пoнятнo. Пoкaжи, гдe я этo нaпиcaл! He тыкaй мнe, вop. I one am confused by your log, unless 2 different purses and 2 different persons aren't visible that there! Look itself at arrivals at my purse. To me to hide нeчeo! Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: zvs on July 25, 2012, 06:51:57 PM he probably wrote the whole thing in russian and had one misspelling & then translated on google or babelfish?
Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: MVitaliyB on July 25, 2012, 06:54:30 PM he probably wrote the whole thing in russian and had one misspelling & then translated on google or babelfish? You are right, only it is a misprint, there is no 1 letter! Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: vampire on July 25, 2012, 06:57:55 PM he probably wrote the whole thing in russian and had one misspelling & then translated on google or babelfish? Well most likely. But still... He could have checked that the English translation contained Russian words. Not talking about that over 90% of Russian schools have mandatory English classes as their second language. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: MVitaliyB on July 25, 2012, 07:00:27 PM You are mistaken, it isn't mandatory, there is a choice between English and German!
Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: zvs on July 25, 2012, 07:04:22 PM You are mistaken, it isn't mandatory, there is a choice between English and German! I had a choice between Spanish and French =//// :-\ :-\ anyway, yes, from the logs you can tell he was deliberately abusing the bug. but i bet a good amt of the people that stole bitcoins won't even reply/disappear. so, the offer of 20% at least shows something. i think something like 50% would be even better though, this way you still make bitcoins and inaba gets his back faster! Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: MVitaliyB on July 25, 2012, 07:06:57 PM Unfortunately, I can at present, offer only 20 %. And I finished school 12 years ago
, and knowledge of speech English, all this time, wasn't necessary to me! Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: AndrewBUD on July 25, 2012, 08:26:26 PM And that you didn't attribute to me also the 3rd account from my city? On it the same of about 50 BTC was deduced! The truth it is very convenient to write off everything on one person who decided honest to you to respond to the letter instead of to ignore it? Take it like a man and confess that you fucked up and want to make things right by sending inaba the coins back. Inaba is providing accurate evidence compared to your own heresay so just send the coins back to inaba that you deliberately tried to steal and lets move on from this crap. PS. you must know someone who is fluent in english, get them to post for you since its really messy trying to follow your posts and I want to take in as much of the lolness as possible. LOL,,,, don't be a douch bag send the coins back and apologize for being a doucher Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Nilarium on July 26, 2012, 08:07:34 AM I dont think that he is thief...and btw why u blaming him? more than 50% percent ppl didnt return money
Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: asdlsd on July 26, 2012, 08:14:19 AM Why thief???
You give MVitaliyB money, and hi not return their... BAD PERSON - not thief!!! Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Kluge on July 26, 2012, 08:31:27 AM Why thief??? Malfunctioning ATM takes guy's debit card. Guy at ATM parks and goes into the office to talk to tellers. You pull up and see his account still up - and there's the "Quick Withdraw - $300" button on the screen. Is it not theft if he "gives" it to you by accident when you click the button to take what you know is his?You give MVitaliyB money, and hi not return their... BAD PERSON - not thief!!! Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: MVitaliyB on July 26, 2012, 09:43:53 AM Why thief??? Malfunctioning ATM takes guy's debit card. Guy at ATM parks and goes into the office to talk to tellers. You pull up and see his account still up - and there's the "Quick Withdraw - $300" button on the screen. Is it not theft if he "gives" it to you by accident when you click the button to take what you know is his?You give MVitaliyB money, and hi not return their... BAD PERSON - not thief!!! If the programmer in bank commits a mistake in an initial code and through his fault the ATM gives out to the client not $100 and give out $1000 and thus the client disappears, how you think who will indemnify a loss? Only in this case I am ready to compensate, but only way only available to me, at present! Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Clipse on July 26, 2012, 10:36:47 AM Why thief??? Malfunctioning ATM takes guy's debit card. Guy at ATM parks and goes into the office to talk to tellers. You pull up and see his account still up - and there's the "Quick Withdraw - $300" button on the screen. Is it not theft if he "gives" it to you by accident when you click the button to take what you know is his?You give MVitaliyB money, and hi not return their... BAD PERSON - not thief!!! If the programmer in bank commits a mistake in an initial code and through his fault the ATM gives out to the client not $100 and give out $1000 and thus the client disappears, how you think who will indemnify a loss? Only in this case I am ready to compensate, but only way only available to me, at present! Silly duck, thats why they have cameras and also can track the fault to the account that was withdrawn from. If a bank notice an error they will debit the account at fault even if it takes that account into minus. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: AndrewBUD on July 26, 2012, 10:51:04 AM This happened to my brother.... When Canada trust and TD bank merged in Canada they had a HUGE ATM ERROR.. my brother took out 200 and got 2000...
Well his bank account was overdrawn for a long time because he was only a young kid at the time.... Took him a while to pay it back interest free...... You "Mr speak bad english" Pay back the BTC..... Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: MVitaliyB on July 26, 2012, 10:53:35 AM In a situation that the client on the account has 0$ and it disappeared, who will pay? Programmer!
Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: AndrewBUD on July 26, 2012, 10:56:48 AM I don't think anyone wants to read what you have to say.
Pay back the BTC or fuck off..... Ever heard of being a good person? treat others the way you would like to be treated.... Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Clipse on July 26, 2012, 10:59:24 AM In a situation that the client on the account has 0$ and it disappeared, who will pay? Programmer! Let me try and inform you again. If there is a bank error it will get correct on the account of the account holder even if it goes into the minus. The account holder would not have debt with the bank and he will be forced to pay it. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: MVitaliyB on July 26, 2012, 11:00:53 AM I don't think anyone wants to read what you have to say. Pay back the BTC or fuck off..... Ever heard of being a good person? treat others the way you would like to be treated.... Did I get you right? You don't accept my option of a solution and you made the decision for Inaba? Let will be so! Dialogue is finished! Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: AndrewBUD on July 26, 2012, 11:01:27 AM In a situation that the client on the account has 0$ and it disappeared, who will pay? Programmer! Let me try and inform you again. If there is a bank error it will get correct on the account of the account holder even if it goes into the minus. The account holder would now have debt with the bank and he will be forced to pay it. FTFY Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: AndrewBUD on July 26, 2012, 11:01:51 AM I also said pay back the BTC you poor excuse for a douch bag.
Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: AndrewBUD on July 26, 2012, 11:05:10 AM ^ My 2 year old knows what wrong is.... Why doesn't this guy?
Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Matthew N. Wright on July 26, 2012, 11:07:23 AM @OP: Are you friends with Bulanula?
Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: AndrewBUD on July 26, 2012, 11:15:18 AM Oh he's angry because he's a bear on a unicycle...
Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: DobZombie on July 26, 2012, 11:21:49 AM Dear Inaba! You say lies a little! In the first. On my a purse arrived transfers, because of YOUR mistake, for total amount of 47 BTC. It is not necessary to speak that I stole at you 100 BTC, it is lie! In the second. I didn't register that day other accounts on your service! It too lie! I registered next day 1 account what to check it my operating account is frozen or again your service is buggy! I will boil. I don't consider an event as theft, since. You allowed to take away from you 47 BTC. And that you do what to give, all the same, to the passerby of $100 and when it will depart on 10 meters to start to shout that he is a thief! It meanly and not adequately respect! This guy is quite obviously a Russian gypsy thief. And to boot he's using google translate, which is mincing up the English. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: AndrewBUD on July 26, 2012, 11:26:49 AM I could probably understand the russian better :)
Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: asdlsd on July 26, 2012, 12:34:27 PM hey guys stop
you have nothing to say to him personally and and you go to his nationality... very clever... Quote And to boot he's using google translate, which is mincing up the English. Дaвaйтe пoпpoбyeм пooбщaтьcя нa pyccкoм? 100 пyдoв нeдoпoнимaниe бyдeт! Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: AndrewBUD on July 26, 2012, 12:36:45 PM Let's try to communicate in Russian? 100 pounds of misunderstanding will
Mнe oчeнь нpaвитcя вcпaшки мoя жeнa, кaк нacчeт вac? Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: asdlsd on July 26, 2012, 12:41:47 PM Quote вcпaшки мoя жeнa this words don't undestand (incorrect) in this proffer )) wrote in english all Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: AndrewBUD on July 26, 2012, 12:45:44 PM See google translate does fucker it up...
it said, I enjoy plowing my wife, how about you? Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: asdlsd on July 26, 2012, 12:58:48 PM Quote plowing ??? any synonym? maybe it sleng?plowing = пaxaть пaxaть зeмлю пaxaть нa paбoтe PS. here is an example of misunderstanding Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: AndrewBUD on July 26, 2012, 01:08:32 PM It's not easy to translate with a machine......
But OP should still pay back the BTC he received due to a bug... Period end of story..... if not he should receive a scammer tag and be banned from mining with Inaba. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: John (John K.) on July 26, 2012, 02:08:37 PM <rant>
You know, this kind of threads make me want to sticky every scammer's information to somewhere conspicuous. </rant> In a situation that the client on the account has 0$ and it disappeared, who will pay? Programmer! I don't really understand what you're stating, but in other civilized places the client who (presumably) over-drafted the account has to pay up, and not the programmer. If the problem was widespread and troublesome, the worst the programmer would get is a reprimand or be sacked. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Raoul Duke on July 26, 2012, 02:25:14 PM <rant> You know, this kind of threads make me want to sticky every scammer's information to somewhere conspicuous. </rant> There is the Bitcoin Shitlist[/img] (http://bitcoin-shitlist.com) Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: wersaup on July 26, 2012, 04:17:31 PM Dear Inaba! You say lies a little! In the first. On my a purse arrived transfers, because of YOUR mistake, for total amount of 47 BTC. It is not necessary to speak that I stole at you 100 BTC, it is lie! In the second. I didn't register that day other accounts on your service! It too lie! I registered next day 1 account what to check it my operating account is frozen or again your service is buggy! I will boil. I don't consider an event as theft, since. You allowed to take away from you 47 BTC. And that you do what to give, all the same, to the passerby of $100 and when it will depart on 10 meters to start to shout that he is a thief! It meanly and not adequately respect! lol. So you're ok with me breaking and entering into your house, stealing your stuff and raping your wife, since you allowed me to do so just by having a weak door and a bad lock on it?`You allow me to empty your bank account because you didnt choose a strong password? Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: stoppots on July 26, 2012, 10:09:07 PM vitaly is a ghost
only time the dude ever uses this nick to register on a forum is when he is asking a question, posting a complaint, or want to put in his 2 cents. Registers, post, and last activity always occuring on the same day or within a 2 day period. need to figure out his regular forum name from the russian forum. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: nybble41 on July 26, 2012, 10:51:01 PM Why thief??? Malfunctioning ATM takes guy's debit card. Guy at ATM parks and goes into the office to talk to tellers. You pull up and see his account still up - and there's the "Quick Withdraw - $300" button on the screen. Is it not theft if he "gives" it to you by accident when you click the button to take what you know is his?You give MVitaliyB money, and hi not return their... BAD PERSON - not thief!!! Whether the account holder is liable for the bank's loss of $300 is a matter between that person and the bank. Leaving their card at the ATM could be a violation of the contract governing the account, and the contract may stipulate that they will reimburse the bank for losses owing to insecure handling of their card or other authentication credentials. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: John (John K.) on July 27, 2012, 01:42:08 AM vitaly is a ghost See his supporters then. ;)only time the dude ever uses this nick to register on a forum is when he is asking a question, posting a complaint, or want to put in his 2 cents. Registers, post, and last activity always occuring on the same day or within a 2 day period. need to figure out his regular forum name from the russian forum. They're probably him. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Clipse on July 27, 2012, 03:47:57 AM Why thief??? Malfunctioning ATM takes guy's debit card. Guy at ATM parks and goes into the office to talk to tellers. You pull up and see his account still up - and there's the "Quick Withdraw - $300" button on the screen. Is it not theft if he "gives" it to you by accident when you click the button to take what you know is his?You give MVitaliyB money, and hi not return their... BAD PERSON - not thief!!! Whether the account holder is liable for the bank's loss of $300 is a matter between that person and the bank. Leaving their card at the ATM could be a violation of the contract governing the account, and the contract may stipulate that they will reimburse the bank for losses owing to insecure handling of their card or other authentication credentials. Only criminals like to turn simple issues into overthought processes. ie. Derivatives markets being a good example. seriously over complicated bullshit formulas so that no one at any given point really can understand what shit they deal with. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Inaba on July 27, 2012, 02:15:25 PM So are you going to actually start mining at 20% or what? It's clear you aren't going to pay it back willingly. :p
Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: nybble41 on July 27, 2012, 03:24:23 PM Only criminals like to turn simple issues into overthought processes. Not "overthought", just carefully and precisely reasoned. The issue wasn't as simple as you're pretending it was, and precision is important when reasoning about crimes, particularly when it relates to the identity of the victim. Anyway, that's a rather serious charge to be throwing around so freely. What crime are you accusing me of, exactly? For that matter, you also accused participants in the derivatives market of criminal intent for no better reason than your own failure to understand it. Perhaps the problem isn't with me or with them, but rather with you.For the patience-impaired, here's the short version: Yes, a crime was committed. The victim of the crime was the property owner--the bank--not the account holder who was impersonated. The crime was fraud, possibly compounded with theft, but there wasn't enough detail in the original story to be sure of the theft. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Clipse on July 27, 2012, 04:14:49 PM Only criminals like to turn simple issues into overthought processes. Not "overthought", just carefully and precisely reasoned. The issue wasn't as simple as you're pretending it was, and precision is important when reasoning about crimes, particularly when it relates to the identity of the victim. Anyway, that's a rather serious charge to be throwing around so freely. What crime are you accusing me of, exactly? For that matter, you also accused participants in the derivatives market of criminal intent for no better reason than your own failure to understand it. Perhaps the problem isn't with me or with them, but rather with you.For the patience-impaired, here's the short version: Yes, a crime was committed. The victim of the crime was the property owner--the bank--not the account holder who was impersonated. The crime was fraud, possibly compounded with theft, but there wasn't enough detail in the original story to be sure of the theft. I only quoted your response as part of the discussion follow up, you had the last bit to add and I added on top of that. I didnt accuse you of anything, the accused is MVitaliyB and my quote is related to this whole thread surrounding his refusal to return the coins. re: derivative market spawned from banks greed to cross insure without any oversight or regulation at all on definite bets that would allways leave them as the winner and allways kill the small guy with false information, I understand the subject most definitely better it seems and I suggest you go read up and follow the recent developments surround this before spewing comments back in this thread that wasnt targetted at you which I find amusing that you thought it was. Anyhow your response is clearly that of an asshat, well played sir. Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: Gladamas on July 29, 2012, 03:29:48 AM No offense, but I think asdlsd and Nilarium are sockpuppets (actually MVitaliyB).
Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: enquirer on July 29, 2012, 04:37:36 AM Who needs Shakespeare, if we have bitcoin boards?
Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: stoppots on July 29, 2012, 07:18:18 AM On your service I received 1,5 BTC in day. 1,5*0,2=0,3 BTC in day. 47/0,3=157 days. About 5 months. And considering that in a way new BFL that quicker than 5 months. Or you accept option of others more? Which simply keep silent! So wat I gathered is that thieftaly B took the BTC he stole from Inaba and bought himself a BFL FPGA? Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: AndrewBUD on July 29, 2012, 02:53:58 PM Can you say douch bag?
Title: Re: For Inaba & Administrations Post by: somenick on July 31, 2012, 10:24:53 AM чё oн тaк yцeпилcя зa 47 btc, нaвepнякa yжe пpoпил и oтдaвaть нeчeгo )
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