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Title: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on February 12, 2015, 10:22:48 AM Welcome to SAD-Service Shorena's Account Deletion[1] Service How does this work? You send me your username and password for bitcointalk.org via mail[2] or PM, optionally PGP[3] encrypted and convince me that the account in question was not hacked. I will change the password, security question/answer and mail address to randomly[4] generated data. The mail address will be changed to <username>@bitcointalk.org. I will keep the data for 4 weeks[8] to make sure there is nothing fishy going on and delete the data afterwards. Sponsorship: Before you read about the prices you might want to read this: -snip- I may sponsor the BTC for everybody and for 'cleaned-SAD-Service, most probably, only for Newbies and Jr. Member!!! PM me if you want.. ;) -snip- -MZ Yes, you might even get the service for free, get in touch with MZ[11] and ask for a sponsorship. Prices: Get the basic SAD-Service for 0.001 BTC per Account. Get the cleaned SAD-Service to have all[5] your PMs and posts removed for currently re-evaluating the price for this service as its more work than I expected. The price will be based on the minimal loan for my country (8.5 EUR/hour) and the time I need to remove posts (100/hour), but its open to discussion. Get the random SAD-Service to have the passwords generated with /dev/random[6] instead of /dev/urandom for additional 0.001 BTC per 16 bytes[7]. Get the long SAD-Service to use 32 random bytes instead of 16 for additional 0.0005 per password[10] Get the shreded SAD-Service to shred[9] the data for additional 0.0005 per Account. Get the timeout SAD-Service to receive the data after 4 weeks for double the amount charged for an equally SAD-Service. E.g. Use the basic SAD-Service for a 4 week timeout for 0.002 BTC per Account. Escrow: Yes, I accept escrow, you pay the fees (if any) and if there is demand Id like to get someone dedicated to do the escrow. Questions and Answers: #1 How do you I know you are not selling the account at a later date? First you could always check, but I dont want you to worry about this so I say the person doing the escrow would create a post in this thread stating the deletion of your account. Thus everyone can check. It is true I can not verify that I in fact deleted the data as promised. #2 Why should I pay you for something I can do myself? For convenience. There are many things we could do ourselves, but sometimes we prefer if someone else does it for us. Like mowing the lawn, baking bread or changing the password of an account to a random one and delete it afterwards. Fineprint Section: [1] Accounts do not actually get deleted from the database, admins could restore an account. [2] My mail address is shor3na@gmail.com [3] My public key can be found here: http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xBD6B68E2 [4] The passwords use a certain number of random bytes converted to base58 Code: account password: 16 b Deletion will have no effect on existing backups, private or public. [6] It is believed among experts in the field that /dev/urandom offers the same level of security as /dev/random. More on that topic can be found here: http://www.2uo.de/myths-about-urandom/ [7] The full package consisting of #1 the account password #3 the security answer, with a total of 32 bytes for 0.002 [8] The data will be stored on an offline linux system with mechanical disk. [9] The file will be overwritten 1000 times before its removed. Code: shred -n 999 -z -u [10] Might result in additional costs if combined with the random SAD-Service. [11] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=320943 Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: innocent93 on February 12, 2015, 10:30:59 AM Sorry, I don't understand, why should I delete my account? You mean bitcointalk account? SAD? sorry I am confused.
Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on February 12, 2015, 10:35:08 AM Sorry, I don't understand, why should I delete my account? Maybe you dont want to, but I see the question asked in meta quite often. You mean bitcointalk account? Yes. SAD? sorry I am confused. SAD, because I think its sad to "delete" accounts and well it fits with Shorena's Account Deletion Service. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: locopao on February 12, 2015, 10:56:34 AM I don't get it either.
Is it so hard for someone to delete his account? I mean if i ever wanted to delete my account i would just let it go, or change password to some random characters and then let it go. Am i missing something? Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on February 12, 2015, 10:58:39 AM I don't get it either. Is it so hard for someone to delete his account? I mean if i ever wanted to delete my account i would just let it go, or change password to some random characters and then let it go. Am i missing something? Nope, never said it was hard. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: jacktheking on February 12, 2015, 11:00:19 AM Nice concept and business idea you have there. However, I doubt there will be any customer.
Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Mewtwo on February 12, 2015, 11:07:55 AM Nice concept and business idea you have there. However, I doubt there will be any customer. Yeah, it does seem a bit farfetched. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: LazyCoin on February 12, 2015, 11:09:57 AM anyone who want to use op service just donate ur account to me :D as i need to wait some secounds between posts
Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on February 12, 2015, 11:12:14 AM anyone who want to use op service just donate ur account to me :D as i need to wait some secounds between posts Thats exactly the point to get it "deleted". If someone wants to sell their account, there are others providing exactly that. Nice concept and business idea you have there. However, I doubt there will be any customer. We will see. I certainly dont expect daily rush hours. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: sgk on February 12, 2015, 11:20:42 AM This is the most hilarious 'Will Work for Bitcoin' service I've come across so far! :D
The idea is novel and amusing. There may be hardly any customer (1 or 2 maybe within a period of a month), but what you're doing certainly requires some sense of humor and I appreciate that! You have also given a thought to name your service well and I'm sure you enjoy what you're doing. https://i.imgur.com/TcMLr0Kt.jpg Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on February 12, 2015, 02:03:24 PM This is the most hilarious 'Will Work for Bitcoin' service I've come across so far! :D The idea is novel and amusing. There may be hardly any customer (1 or 2 maybe within a period of a month), but what you're doing certainly requires some sense of humor and I appreciate that! You have also given a thought to name your service well and I'm sure you enjoy what you're doing. https://i.imgur.com/TcMLr0Kt.jpg Thanks. I certainly had fun writing the scripts[1] for this and like the way the thread is going so far. I still take the service serious though. [1] sample output: Code: user name : test Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: devthedev on February 12, 2015, 02:14:59 PM I'm interested.
Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on February 12, 2015, 02:28:08 PM I'm interested. I hope you are not leaving us. PM/Mail me the name of the account and Ill take a look at it. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: devthedev on February 12, 2015, 02:31:42 PM I'm interested. I hope you are not leaving us. PM/Mail me the name of the account and Ill take a look at it. Haha, I was joking. Interesting service you have here! Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: arallmuus on February 12, 2015, 02:34:39 PM I'm interested. I hope you are not leaving us. PM/Mail me the name of the account and Ill take a look at it. Haha, I was joking. Interesting service you have here! lol, i was surprised , i thought devthedev gonna leaves this forum anyway OP, its a very interesting and genuine bussiness idea ive come accross so far, goodluck with it Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Bralex on February 12, 2015, 02:36:23 PM This is the funniest thing i have seen so you get paid to delete someones account, why would they want to do this?
They could sell the account could they not? After you have kept the account for 4 weeks you sell the account way to go!! Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Quickseller on February 12, 2015, 02:42:32 PM I like the idea. There does seem to be some level of demand for this. From the looks of it users are essentially paying for the time it takes to delete all their posts.
Question: do you have any automated way to delete posts? If not then your price is probably too low as deleting a post can take several seconds. Another thing to note is that I don't think it is possible to delete posts from locked threads and I know posts can't be deleted from auction threads. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on February 12, 2015, 02:48:50 PM I'm interested. I hope you are not leaving us. PM/Mail me the name of the account and Ill take a look at it. Haha, I was joking. Interesting service you have here! Thanks, glad you are staying. This is the funniest thing i have seen so you get paid to delete someones account, why would they want to do this? I think the same when I see people using online wallets instead of something on their own computer. I dont know if anyone actually needs this, but I have seen the question asked, so I came up with a solution. They could sell the account could they not? Sure. On the other hand I wouldnt sell my account should I ever want to leave. It might be worth a few cents for someone to know the new passwords are out of their reach and yet the account is not used by someone else. After you have kept the account for 4 weeks you sell the account way to go!! Good question[1]. It would be very obvious if the account would start to post again though. I could maintain a list. Well I could edit the list. So the person doing the escrow could post here for which account the escrow is held. Thus it can be publicly verified that the account is not used for posts. I like the idea. There does seem to be some level of demand for this. From the looks of it users are essentially paying for the time it takes to delete all their posts. Deletion is extra, but I suspect it will be part of the most common deal. Question: do you have any automated way to delete posts? If not then your price is probably too low as deleting a post can take several seconds. No I dont. In fact I am not sure how I could keep "scam critical" posts in place with an automated system. If it takes to much time to delete the posts I will certainly increase the price. PMs are easy though, the forum has a build in "delete all" button. Another thing to note is that I don't think it is possible to delete posts from locked threads and I know posts can't be deleted from auction threads. Yep, thats part of fineprint [5] "Not all posts can be deleted." [1] even though its missing the question mark ;) Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: legendster on February 12, 2015, 02:49:46 PM This is a good way to increase some post count, said no troll ever.
Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Bralex on February 12, 2015, 02:58:43 PM I'm interested. I hope you are not leaving us. PM/Mail me the name of the account and Ill take a look at it. Haha, I was joking. Interesting service you have here! Thanks, glad you are staying. This is the funniest thing i have seen so you get paid to delete someones account, why would they want to do this? I think the same when I see people using online wallets instead of something on their own computer. I dont know if anyone actually needs this, but I have seen the question asked, so I came up with a solution. They could sell the account could they not? Sure. On the other hand I wouldnt sell my account should I ever want to leave. It might be worth a few cents for someone to know the new passwords are out of their reach and yet the account is not used by someone else. After you have kept the account for 4 weeks you sell the account way to go!! Good question[1]. It would be very obvious if the account would start to post again though. I could maintain a list. Well I could edit the list. So the person doing the escrow could post here for which account the escrow is held. Thus it can be publicly verified that the account is not used for posts. I like the idea. There does seem to be some level of demand for this. From the looks of it users are essentially paying for the time it takes to delete all their posts. Deletion is extra, but I suspect it will be part of the most common deal. Question: do you have any automated way to delete posts? If not then your price is probably too low as deleting a post can take several seconds. No I dont. In fact I am not sure how I could keep "scam critical" posts in place with an automated system. If it takes to much time to delete the posts I will certainly increase the price. PMs are easy though, the forum has a build in "delete all" button. Another thing to note is that I don't think it is possible to delete posts from locked threads and I know posts can't be deleted from auction threads. Yep, thats part of fineprint [5] "Not all posts can be deleted." [1] even though its missing the question mark ;) Thank you for helping me figure this out a little better, i trust you would not be using the account but had to ask. Also i could only see one group wanting to use this please correct me if i am wrong but the only people i believe who would want to wipe the slate clean so to speak would be scammers who do not want their past doings coming back. But you have stated you will attempt to keep scam-critical posts in place so that kind of rules out the scammers benefiting. Either way i wish you luck in you're service at least you are trying to help although i cannot figure out who lol Take care Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 14, 2015, 10:51:22 AM I like your service! Better to post this in Meta. ::)
I may sponsor the BTC for everybody and for 'cleaned-SAD-Service, most probably, only for Newbies and Jr. Member!!! PM me if you want.. ;) Good luck, shorena. Edit : Do you ask for signed message?[1] [1] You know the procedures! -MZ Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on February 14, 2015, 12:00:51 PM I like your service! Better to post this in Meta. ::) Thanks, but its a service so it should be here. I may sponsor the BTC for everybody and for 'cleaned-SAD-Service, most probably, only for Newbies and Jr. Member!!! PM me if you want.. ;) Good luck, shorena. Thats nice, Ill keep that in mind for my first customer. Edit : Do you ask for signed message?[1] [1] You know the procedures! -MZ I prefer a signed message yes, but I also know that not everybody will be able to provide one. Ill take a look at each account individually and see if there is anything else to convince me that its not hacked. When in doubt they would have to change the password themselves. ;) -snip- Also i could only see one group wanting to use this please correct me if i am wrong but the only people i believe who would want to wipe the slate clean so to speak would be scammers who do not want their past doings coming back. Sure, but scammers could care less about their accounts with plenty of negative trust. I suspect the typical customer is someone more average. Someone that would not mind to spend a little to not worry about the strength of the password or to have to go through all the posts again. But you have stated you will attempt to keep scam-critical posts in place so that kind of rules out the scammers benefiting. Yes, this and the 4 week waiting period are my methods to discourage scammers from using the service. Either way i wish you luck in you're service at least you are trying to help although i cannot figure out who lol Take care Its a SAD service anyway, if no one needs it, its better for all of us. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: marcotheminer on February 14, 2015, 12:16:22 PM Seems like you put a lot of effort into a service not many people are interested in.. Good luck.
Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Anillos2 on February 14, 2015, 12:34:04 PM Deleting an account is very simple, simply publish your password here in plain text. ;D
Another option is to register in other BTC related services with the same password and email address. :P Of course, Your account will work for some days, but not much. :D Also, some people could get scammed. Why I have a "2" in my name? Because I put the same address and password outside here. :( Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 14, 2015, 12:56:59 PM Deleting an account is very simple, simply publish your password here in plain text. ;D The account will be stolen rather than getting deleted. -MZ Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: (Lithium) on February 14, 2015, 08:18:08 PM I would rather sell the account instead.
Instead of paying you will receive money. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: ivonna on February 14, 2015, 08:29:34 PM I would rather sell the account instead. Some people probably don't want to go through the hassle of selling their account or could potentially have their identity linked to their account and doesn't want to risk that someone else with scam with itInstead of paying you will receive money. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: excword on February 14, 2015, 08:35:50 PM Nice but SAD.
Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: najzenmajsen on February 14, 2015, 09:01:27 PM dayum , every day for 365 days i've been waking up hoping a service like this would come. Im really thankful that you're providing this service i will send you my account details shortly.
Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: fukuda on February 15, 2015, 12:44:57 AM dayum , every day for 365 days i've been waking up hoping a service like this would come. Im really thankful that you're providing this service i will send you my account details shortly. Are you serious? Why not sell your account? You will got at least 0.3 btc for it. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 15, 2015, 06:32:38 AM dayum , every day for 365 days i've been waking up hoping a service like this would come. Im really thankful that you're providing this service i will send you my account details shortly. Are you serious? Why not sell your account? You will got at least 0.3 btc for it. Some people don't like selling their accounts because scammers can destroy their reputation. -MZ Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on February 15, 2015, 02:52:29 PM dayum , every day for 365 days i've been waking up hoping a service like this would come. Im really thankful that you're providing this service i will send you my account details shortly. Are you serious? Why not sell your account? You will got at least 0.3 btc for it. I doubt they are. Judging by the signature its just a case of: "dayum, get paid by post, gotta make some posts maaan" dayum , every day for 365 days i've been waking up hoping a service like this would come. Im really thankful that you're providing this service i will send you my account details shortly. On the slim case you are serious, contact me with a link to an old post which has an address you can a sign a message with. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 17, 2015, 07:29:07 AM =snip= he is well known for keeping the board clean[12]. =snip= [12] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=918799.0 Can you remove this please? P.S. I may sponsor for all the types of SAD but for 'cleaned-SAD-Service', most probably, only for Newbies and Jr. Member because for others, the post counts will be higher. So I can add that in general not just in the 'cleaned-SAD-Service' details. I hope you understand what I meant. I may sponsor the BTC for everybody and for 'cleaned-SAD-Service, most probably, only for Newbies and Jr. Member!!! PM me if you want.. ;) -MZ Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on February 17, 2015, 07:47:13 AM =snip= he is well known for keeping the board clean[12]. =snip= [12] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=918799.0 Can you remove this please? done. P.S. I may sponsor for all the types of SAD but for 'cleaned-SAD-Service', most probably, only for Newbies and Jr. Member because for others, the post counts will be higher. So I can add that in general not just in the 'cleaned-SAD-Service' details. I hope you understand what I meant. Will edit in a section I may sponsor the BTC for everybody and for 'cleaned-SAD-Service, most probably, only for Newbies and Jr. Member!!! PM me if you want.. ;) -MZ I actually had a request from someone claiming you sponsor them, did you get the PM? Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 17, 2015, 09:31:53 AM done. Will edit in a section Thanks! I actually had a request from someone claiming you sponsor them, did you get the PM? Yes! -MZ Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: KingOfSports on February 17, 2015, 11:59:43 AM I might be interested..
Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on February 17, 2015, 12:21:50 PM I might be interested.. I will look into it tonight when I have more time. I will probably ask you to sign a message for me, are you familiar with the proccess? Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on February 17, 2015, 08:45:42 PM I cleaned the first account. I went first because I trust MZ. It certainly took longer to delete the posts than expected. Threads started by the account have not been deleted, but reported to the mods to be moved in archival and locked. Threads and posts discussing negative trust ratings have not been removed either. All PMs have been deleted unread. The "Prune Messages" option is very handy in that regard.
Username: goodnightcoin Proof of ownership: Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Payment info: Code: --------------INFO------------------------------------ Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on February 17, 2015, 09:23:29 PM I might be interested.. I will look into it tonight when I have more time. I will probably ask you to sign a message for me, are you familiar with the proccess? I see no reason why I should not help you. Can you sign a message in the below fashion with an btc address and link to an unedited post where you posted it. Preferably >2 months old. E.g. your donation address from your clam awareness post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=886611.msg9779044#msg9779044 Should you indeed be the new owner[1] and thus be unable to sign a message with an old address you would have to provide something signed from KoS that I can verify. Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- [1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=918838.msg10160277#msg10160277 Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 18, 2015, 12:08:26 PM I cleaned the first account. I went first because I trust MZ. It certainly took longer to delete the posts than expected. Threads started by the account have not been deleted, but reported to the mods to be moved in archival and locked. Threads and posts discussing negative trust ratings have not been removed either. All PMs have been deleted unread. The "Prune Messages" option is very handy in that regard. Username: goodnightcoin Proof of ownership: Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Payment info: Code: --------------INFO------------------------------------ Confirming this! Edit: Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- -MZ Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Baytoba on February 19, 2015, 01:59:55 AM Congrats @shorena
you had 1st Client :D Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Lauda on February 19, 2015, 09:08:19 PM Interesting service there. Just for the sake of curiosity, how much would a full deletion of my account cost (posts + everything changed to random)?
Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on February 19, 2015, 09:47:45 PM Interesting service there. Just for the sake of curiosity, how much would a full deletion of my account cost (posts + everything changed to random)? I am currently reevaluating the price to delete posts. The ~100 for the last customer took an hour and I dont see any way to automate the process if I want to make sure no "scam critical" posts get deleted. At minimum wage (8.50 €) per hour per 100 posts we would be talking about 3.7 BTC for your account. Id probably need the full 4 weeks to go through all posts before deleting the randomly generated passwords. Well for 3.7 BTC I would take a week vacation and plow through it. Besides that the basic service is pretty cheap with 0.001. For an Hero with picture and green trust it might be a good idea to use 32 byte passwords though, just in case ;) would cost you 0.0025 Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: thebitcoinquiz.com on February 20, 2015, 05:31:30 AM This looks interesting.
But one thing again and again crosses my mind. All the things you are providing, we can actually do it ourselves. So what's the benefit of using your service? Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 20, 2015, 12:46:53 PM This looks interesting. But one thing again and again crosses my mind. All the things you are providing, we can actually do it ourselves. So what's the benefit of using your service? See meta and search 'delete my account' or see https://www.google.com/cse?cx=016660200577587308545%3Aesf40ml9aag&ie=UTF-8&q=delete+my+accont&sa=Google+search#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=delete%20my%20account&gsc.sort=. -MZ Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on February 20, 2015, 02:37:02 PM This looks interesting. But one thing again and again crosses my mind. All the things you are providing, we can actually do it ourselves. So what's the benefit of using your service? Sometimes its hard to stop doing something, posting here might be this something for someone. They might also want a fresh start and never look back. What is easy to do for some is not so easy for others and they sometimes need help. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on March 17, 2015, 09:05:42 AM I cleaned the first account. I went first because I trust MZ. It certainly took longer to delete the posts than expected. Threads started by the account have not been deleted, but reported to the mods to be moved in archival and locked. Threads and posts discussing negative trust ratings have not been removed either. All PMs have been deleted unread. The "Prune Messages" option is very handy in that regard. Username: goodnightcoin Proof of ownership: Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Payment info: Code: --------------INFO------------------------------------ Confirming this! Edit: Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- -MZ Account data has been deleted as promissed. The sectors on the disk have been overwritten 999 times with random data and finally with zero bits. Its an old mechanical disk, thus there is no risk that the disk controller faked it. I know you have a lot on your plate at the moment MZ, thus I waive payment. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Muhammed Zakir on March 17, 2015, 09:25:42 AM I cleaned the first account. I went first because I trust MZ. It certainly took longer to delete the posts than expected. Threads started by the account have not been deleted, but reported to the mods to be moved in archival and locked. Threads and posts discussing negative trust ratings have not been removed either. All PMs have been deleted unread. The "Prune Messages" option is very handy in that regard. Username: goodnightcoin Proof of ownership: Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Payment info: Code: --------------INFO------------------------------------ Confirming this! Edit: Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- -MZ Account data has been deleted as promissed. The sectors on the disk have been overwritten 999 times with random data and finally with zero bits. Its an old mechanical disk, thus there is no risk that the disk controller faked it. I know you have a lot on your plate at the moment MZ, thus I waive payment. TX: https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/18f2e671611f121a95cea0e96adbc519c93b8939a51e41456d5f151d07451a83 Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on March 17, 2015, 09:40:07 AM -snip- TX: https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/18f2e671611f121a95cea0e96adbc519c93b8939a51e41456d5f151d07451a83 Confirmed, thanks for the tip. :) Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Glucose on March 17, 2015, 10:12:40 AM Funny service :D If one day I want to delete my account I will come back here for sure ^^
Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Grand_Voyageur on April 28, 2015, 01:29:24 PM =snip= Prices: Get the basic SAD-Service for 0.001 BTC per Account. =snip= ::) What is included in the basic SAD-Service? ::) Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: sho_road_warrior on April 28, 2015, 01:47:57 PM =snip= Prices: Get the basic SAD-Service for 0.001 BTC per Account. =snip= ::) What is included in the basic SAD-Service? ::) The good (or sad) feeling that you will no longer be able to access the account. In detail: New random account password, New random mail password, New random security answer with 128 bit entropy each. Generated and stored offline. New random mail address with 32 bit entropy, regular data removal (rm account.txt) after 4 weeks. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Zeroxal on April 28, 2015, 07:14:54 PM Why would anyone on the forum want to delete their account - for money?! You could sell it, keep it, change your password yourself etc. But why pay for deleting something?!
If there are sad peiple that want to delete their account : Give it to me ;D I am more than happy to change all your security data and keep it as mine ;) Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on April 28, 2015, 07:44:05 PM Why would anyone on the forum want to delete their account - for money?! You could sell it, keep it, change your password yourself etc. But why pay for deleting something?! If there are sad peiple that want to delete their account : Give it to me ;D I am more than happy to change all your security data and keep it as mine ;) Probably for the same reason why people dont read a thread before writing a reply. Everyone is different. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Mewtwo on April 28, 2015, 09:56:14 PM Sorry, I don't understand, why should I delete my account? Maybe you dont want to, but I see the question asked in meta quite often. You mean bitcointalk account? Yes. SAD? sorry I am confused. SAD, because I think its sad to "delete" accounts and well it fits with Shorena's Account Deletion Service. LOL. I wondering what is "SAD" and now I understand. Sounds like ! ;D But I really don't understand more about your service. almost everyone is afraid to hear about anything related to "delete" . I think you should explain it for more information. Thank you very much ! Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Quickseller on April 28, 2015, 10:17:21 PM How much would you charge for an account with 4350 posts, 5,000 PM's in their inbox and 4,800 PM's in their outbox? There is no rush on a quote, and by the time your service is utilized the above numbers will probably have increased somewhat.
Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on April 29, 2015, 08:02:17 AM -snip- LOL. I wondering what is "SAD" and now I understand. Sounds like ! ;D But I really don't understand more about your service. almost everyone is afraid to hear about anything related to "delete" . I think you should explain it for more information. Thank you very much ! What exactly is your question? I personally think I have everything explained that needs explaining otherwise I would have written more in the OP or updated the post by now. If you have a specific question you need answers Im very happy to give you an answer, but "explain it for more information" is not something I can come up with an answer for sorry. How much would you charge for an account with 4350 posts, 5,000 PM's in their inbox and 4,800 PM's in their outbox? There is no rush on a quote, and by the time your service is utilized the above numbers will probably have increased somewhat. I hope you dont actually want to leave and this is just an example or thought experiment. Its true I currently dont have a fixed price on "clean-SAD", thus my offer is based on the time it took in the past to remove and assess 100 posts and the minimal wage for germany. basic SAD - 0.001 PMs - free 4350 posts @ 8.50 EUR per 100 posts and BTC/EUR @ ~206 today = 4350/100 * 8.5/206 = 1.7949 BTC total - 1.795 BTC Id probably add "long-SAD" for free since you are on DefaultTrust and get in contact with BadBear to have the account removed after the 4 weeks have passed. Although I would have no reason to wait that long as you probably would sign a message with your PGP key. Keep in mind that this includes a personal analysis of every post in the context of the thread it was posted it. Every thread that can not be deleted would be reported to mods and asked to be moved into archival. PMs would be deleted without any further checks and in bulk (the board offers a button for that). Considering that you often write lengthy posts in complex threads regarding scams 100 posts per hour is probably not realistic. On the other hand I can hardly charge you more because you have been more active in busting scammers than others, can I? ;) Disclaimer: when I say "deleted" its referring to whatever is possible under the given circumstances. I have no access to the boards backups and or other accounts you have send PMs to or received from. Posts do not actually get deleted from the database either, but hidden from all but admins AFAIK. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: scat on April 29, 2015, 11:55:43 AM this is interesting project, since we cannot delete own account. the question is why the forum is not provide a feature to delete our account ;D
Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Mewtwo on April 30, 2015, 03:01:25 AM -snip- LOL. I wondering what is "SAD" and now I understand. Sounds like ! ;D But I really don't understand more about your service. almost everyone is afraid to hear about anything related to "delete" . I think you should explain it for more information. Thank you very much ! What exactly is your question? I personally think I have everything explained that needs explaining otherwise I would have written more in the OP or updated the post by now. If you have a specific question you need answers Im very happy to give you an answer, but "explain it for more information" is not something I can come up with an answer for sorry. Sincerely thanks for your enthusiastic help ! I've read what you've presented above, it almost has a specific, detailed and clear now. But perhaps because of my language skills are not good or I do not have much knowledge, so I still do not understand what is the purpose of this service ? I see you've said that, I put my account for you so that you deleted posts, messages , change password,...But but I do not see what you say to the account for my return. And if you return or admin recover it, I would do with it, I need to do with it ? Do I need to change or modify something or not ? where all the information about my account you already know all... Generally, after I use your service, I will get something back from it ? That was my thought, if I'm wrong, please feel ignored ! Sincerely thanks! Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on April 30, 2015, 06:23:47 AM -snip- Sincerely thanks for your enthusiastic help ! I've read what you've presented above, it almost has a specific, detailed and clear now. But perhaps because of my language skills are not good or I do not have much knowledge, so I still do not understand what is the purpose of this service ? The purpose is to no longer be able to access your account, ever. E.g. if someone had a bad time here and wants to leave, I can help. If someone had a very good time here, but the forum takes too much time and they have a problem to stop I can help as well. As it was pointed out in the past, that is surely something many can do themselves, but so is baking bread or mowing the lawn. Its more convenient to have someone else take care of it. I see you've said that, I put my account for you so that you deleted posts, messages , change password,...But but I do not see what you say to the account for my return. And if you return or admin recover it, I would do with it, I need to do with it ? Do I need to change or modify something or not ? where all the information about my account you already know all... Generally, after I use your service, I will get something back from it ? -snip- No, you dont get the account back, that is the service I am offering. It would be possible for an admin to restore the account though. I have no say in what theymos does or does not do. I keep the passwords for 4 week to give some time in case of a hack. I want to make sure as best as I can that the victim of a hack does not lose the account because of me. For those that just need a break, to stay away for a few weeks, I also offer that I do not delete the passwords, but send them back to the owner. That is not the main reason I made the thread though. I saw many asking in meta "can you delete my account please" and thus thought I could do the next best thing for someone that wants to leave for good. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Mewtwo on April 30, 2015, 06:57:04 AM -snip- Sincerely thanks for your enthusiastic help ! I've read what you've presented above, it almost has a specific, detailed and clear now. But perhaps because of my language skills are not good or I do not have much knowledge, so I still do not understand what is the purpose of this service ? The purpose is to no longer be able to access your account, ever. E.g. if someone had a bad time here and wants to leave, I can help. If someone had a very good time here, but the forum takes too much time and they have a problem to stop I can help as well. As it was pointed out in the past, that is surely something many can do themselves, but so is baking bread or mowing the lawn. Its more convenient to have someone else take care of it. I see you've said that, I put my account for you so that you deleted posts, messages , change password,...But but I do not see what you say to the account for my return. And if you return or admin recover it, I would do with it, I need to do with it ? Do I need to change or modify something or not ? where all the information about my account you already know all... Generally, after I use your service, I will get something back from it ? -snip- No, you dont get the account back, that is the service I am offering. It would be possible for an admin to restore the account though. I have no say in what theymos does or does not do. I keep the passwords for 4 week to give some time in case of a hack. I want to make sure as best as I can that the victim of a hack does not lose the account because of me. For those that just need a break, to stay away for a few weeks, I also offer that I do not delete the passwords, but send them back to the owner. That is not the main reason I made the thread though. I saw many asking in meta "can you delete my account please" and thus thought I could do the next best thing for someone that wants to leave for good. Hi shorena, Oh, really ! I see, now. I sincere thanks for your enthusiastic help ! If so, this is a great useful service for member here who want to leave. Once again, thank you very much ! Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: TriggerX on April 30, 2015, 07:12:36 AM What do you mean by "delete"? Remove all posts a user makes?
I'm not sure I get what you are trying to do because can't I just delete the account by myself? Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on April 30, 2015, 07:31:07 AM What do you mean by "delete"? Remove all posts a user makes? Removal of posts is extra, the basic service is just to remove your access to the account. I'm not sure I get what you are trying to do because can't I just delete the account by myself? -snip- As it was pointed out in the past, that is surely something many can do themselves, but so is baking bread or mowing the lawn. Its more convenient to have someone else take care of it. -snip- Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: WhatTheGox on April 30, 2015, 08:13:48 AM Nice concept and business idea you have there. However, I doubt there will be any customer. Yeah, it does seem a bit farfetched. Some will want to delete their account due to not wanting associations to it any longer, seems like a rare thing but occassionaly you will find people who want this. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: seoincorporation on April 30, 2015, 03:04:12 PM What do you mean by "delete"? Remove all posts a user makes? Removal of posts is extra, the basic service is just to remove your access to the account. I'm not sure I get what you are trying to do because can't I just delete the account by myself? -snip- As it was pointed out in the past, that is surely something many can do themselves, but so is baking bread or mowing the lawn. Its more convenient to have someone else take care of it. -snip- Hi shorena. The title say; "I delete your account" but what you really do is "just to remove your access to the account." If you tell me that you will delete my account i would expect. -Delete my user from the data base -Delete past post But if i give you my user, mail and pass just to be changed for a random info; 1.-My account still here. 2.-Now my account is under your control and if 10 users get the service you will have 10 new accounts. I really like the concept of deleting accounts, but what you do is not really delete them. I wish you good luck with this service, i not interested on it but the idea is very original and i want to share my point of view. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Muhammed Zakir on April 30, 2015, 03:48:27 PM What do you mean by "delete"? Remove all posts a user makes? Removal of posts is extra, the basic service is just to remove your access to the account. I'm not sure I get what you are trying to do because can't I just delete the account by myself? -snip- As it was pointed out in the past, that is surely something many can do themselves, but so is baking bread or mowing the lawn. Its more convenient to have someone else take care of it. -snip- Hi shorena. The title say; "I delete your account" but what you really do is "just to remove your access to the account." If you tell me that you will delete my account i would expect. -Delete my user from the data base -Delete past post But if i give you my user, mail and pass just to be changed for a random info; 1.-My account still here. 2.-Now my account is under your control and if 10 users get the service you will have 10 new accounts. I really like the concept of deleting accounts, but what you do is not really delete them. I wish you good luck with this service, i not interested on it but the idea is very original and i want to share my point of view. Shorena deletes posts. If you trust Shorena, you will know he/she will change password to a random one so that he/she can't access it. Else, don't use this service or use this while thinking you are doing a giveaway. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: arallmuus on April 30, 2015, 04:01:44 PM But if i give you my user, mail and pass just to be changed for a random info; 1.-My account still here. 2.-Now my account is under your control and if 10 users get the service you will have 10 new accounts. Yes your account is still here in the database as it has been stated in OP that admin could restore the account which means that the account never vanished from database here. Not just changed to random info but also delete your posts and PM. Random info as if no one will be able to access it no more, not you not shorena either and the account is not "under his control" and you could clearly known if your account is under shorena's control or not since if someone suddenly login into the account after it has been "deleted" than the person could be only shorena I really like the concept of deleting accounts, but what you do is not really delete them. Not truly "delete" yes but if you got all your posts, PM and the other info deleted, sooner or later no one will ever know that your account existed in here. That is why the words "Delete" is appropriate to be used Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: seoincorporation on April 30, 2015, 07:22:19 PM But if i give you my user, mail and pass just to be changed for a random info; 1.-My account still here. 2.-Now my account is under your control and if 10 users get the service you will have 10 new accounts. Yes your account is still here in the database as it has been stated in OP that admin could restore the account which means that the account never vanished from database here. Not just changed to random info but also delete your posts and PM. Random info as if no one will be able to access it no more, not you not shorena either and the account is not "under his control" and you could clearly known if your account is under shorena's control or not since if someone suddenly login into the account after it has been "deleted" than the person could be only shorena I really like the concept of deleting accounts, but what you do is not really delete them. Not truly "delete" yes but if you got all your posts, PM and the other info deleted, sooner or later no one will ever know that your account existed in here. That is why the words "Delete" is appropriate to be used Hey guys, don't take my feedback as bad, what i say i just my point of view. I know shorena is a trust user here on the forum and he don't have the intentions to keep the accounts. That was just an scenario. My point was, he can't give what he offer. "Delete" is not the right word for this service. If he could join to the DB and Delete all the info, that would be a true user deletion, but editing all post and deleting al PM, will not delete the account from the data base. And now i ask my self, Why users what to delete their accounts if they can sell it? By the way, i think shorena is a good and trusted user on this forum and he don't have bad intentions, he was as all we, searching that business opportunity, and the idea was very original. I really hope he get some BTC with this service. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: bitllionaire on April 30, 2015, 07:27:59 PM Why would I pay you if I can change the password myself,without being possible to recover it?
Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: arallmuus on April 30, 2015, 09:41:08 PM But if i give you my user, mail and pass just to be changed for a random info; 1.-My account still here. 2.-Now my account is under your control and if 10 users get the service you will have 10 new accounts. Yes your account is still here in the database as it has been stated in OP that admin could restore the account which means that the account never vanished from database here. Not just changed to random info but also delete your posts and PM. Random info as if no one will be able to access it no more, not you not shorena either and the account is not "under his control" and you could clearly known if your account is under shorena's control or not since if someone suddenly login into the account after it has been "deleted" than the person could be only shorena I really like the concept of deleting accounts, but what you do is not really delete them. Not truly "delete" yes but if you got all your posts, PM and the other info deleted, sooner or later no one will ever know that your account existed in here. That is why the words "Delete" is appropriate to be used Hey guys, don't take my feedback as bad, what i say i just my point of view. I know shorena is a trust user here on the forum and he don't have the intentions to keep the accounts. That was just an scenario. My point was, he can't give what he offer. "Delete" is not the right word for this service. If he could join to the DB and Delete all the info, that would be a true user deletion, but editing all post and deleting al PM, will not delete the account from the data base. And now i ask my self, Why users what to delete their accounts if they can sell it? By the way, i think shorena is a good and trusted user on this forum and he don't have bad intentions, he was as all we, searching that business opportunity, and the idea was very original. I really hope he get some BTC with this service. Well there is no way to "delete" your account . So what he offers is actually quite right by the words of "delete" . Perhaps you can offer other name for this service? Some people back then posted in meta on how to delete an account, so it is not surprising that some one may just want to delete his account rather than to sell it Why would I pay you if I can change the password myself,without being possible to recover it? If you read it carefully this is not just about changing the password of the account but also to delete posts + PM making the account looks like doesnt exist at all Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Trifixion713 on April 30, 2015, 10:15:06 PM I should refrain from getting really baked before reading threads on here lmao
Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: DropsOfJupiter on May 01, 2015, 04:10:37 PM Guys, I think we need to ask her 'why can't we do it ourselves' a few more times.
Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on May 01, 2015, 04:13:20 PM -snip- I really like the concept of deleting accounts, but what you do is not really delete them. -snip- Hence the fineprint: Quote Accounts do not actually get deleted from the database, admins could restore an account. The trust issue has already been addressed in the past and I see little I could add. Guys, I think we need to ask her 'why can't we do it ourselves' a few more times. :-* Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Phat Buzz Tart on May 01, 2015, 05:40:28 PM Guys, I think we need to ask her 'why can't we do it ourselves' a few more times. Yeah, why cant we do it ourselves? I don't get it..... Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Grand_Voyageur on May 02, 2015, 04:17:38 AM Guys, I think we need to ask her 'why can't we do it ourselves' a few more times. Yeah, why cant we do it ourselves? I don't get it..... You can do it by yourself; however, some people may want to externalize the task to others and OP said he/she can do it for the prices listed in the first post. Everybody is free to make a free choice. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: sho_road_warrior on May 02, 2015, 04:20:04 AM Guys, I think we need to ask her 'why can't we do it ourselves' a few more times. Yeah, why cant we do it ourselves? I don't get it..... You can do it by yourself; however, some people may want to externalize the task to others and OP said he/she can do it for the prices listed in the first post. Everybody is free to make a free choice. I think they are just trolling or at least mocking those asking the question repeatedly. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Mt. Gox on May 03, 2015, 08:27:49 AM Seems like a lot of work is required to delete an account. Couldn't most of the process be automated? Bots are great at doing tedious tasks that humans don't have time for and this looks like the kind of job that a bot could do well. In fact, you might not even need a bot. I used to manage a discussion forum a while back (although it was based on phpBB and not SMF) as well as a wiki running on MediaWiki, and for both of these sites, it was possible to completely delete a user's entire posting history and even their account by clicking a "nuke" button. Couldn't an admin do the same in these forums?
Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: jacktheking on May 03, 2015, 08:33:34 AM Seems like a lot of work is required to delete an account. Couldn't most of the process be automated? Bots are great at doing tedious tasks that humans don't have time for and this looks like the kind of job that a bot could do well. In fact, you might not even need a bot. I used to manage a discussion forum a while back (although it was based on phpBB and not SMF) as well as a wiki running on MediaWiki, and for both of these sites, it was possible to completely delete a user's entire posting history and even their account by clicking a "nuke" button. Couldn't an admin do the same in these forums? I believe MyBB have this feature too. So, SMF should have it too. I think the admin just want to give people like shorena a job. This is actually a creative idea. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Mt. Gox on May 03, 2015, 08:40:41 AM Seems like a lot of work is required to delete an account. Couldn't most of the process be automated? Bots are great at doing tedious tasks that humans don't have time for and this looks like the kind of job that a bot could do well. In fact, you might not even need a bot. I used to manage a discussion forum a while back (although it was based on phpBB and not SMF) as well as a wiki running on MediaWiki, and for both of these sites, it was possible to completely delete a user's entire posting history and even their account by clicking a "nuke" button. Couldn't an admin do the same in these forums? I believe MyBB have this feature too. So, SMF should have it too. I think the admin just want to give people like shorena a job. This is actually a creative idea. Yeah, I think most forum software has the ability to do this. It's almost always used for newbie accounts and particularly spambots but I remember being on a forum once (not the same forum I managed) and there was someone with over 1,000 posts who wanted their account deleted. A few minutes later, all their posts were gone and their profile page had disappeared too. EDIT: Found this: Quote from: hilariousandco I believe only patrollers can delete newbies posts or nuke them site-wide and they don't have to be reported. If you're just a local mod you probably can't do it outside of your jurisdiction unless you're a patroller as well (like Eal). I'm guessing by "nuke", he's referring to what I described - i.e. deletion of all posts as well as the account. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on May 03, 2015, 12:28:45 PM -snip- I'm guessing by "nuke", he's referring to what I described - i.e. deletion of all posts as well as the account. Yes, mods have a nuke button. I would not want to delete posts that are related to scams though, so a bot is not an option. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: DropsOfJupiter on May 04, 2015, 05:52:04 AM Guys, I think we need to ask her 'why can't we do it ourselves' a few more times. Yeah, why cant we do it ourselves? I don't get it..... You can do it by yourself; however, some people may want to externalize the task to others and OP said he/she can do it for the prices listed in the first post. Everybody is free to make a free choice. I think they are just trolling or at least mocking those asking the question repeatedly. Who, me? Perish the thought! I'm more serious that a limestone boulder. In fact, I'm so serious, they've inserted my picture under the definition of serious in Oxford's dictionary. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: b!z on May 04, 2015, 06:19:33 AM Everyone's posts are still saved as backups by the administrators ;)
Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Mt. Gox on May 04, 2015, 10:32:12 AM -snip- I'm guessing by "nuke", he's referring to what I described - i.e. deletion of all posts as well as the account. Yes, mods have a nuke button. I would not want to delete posts that are related to scams though, so a bot is not an option. A bot could selectively leave out posts in the scam accusations subforum. You do have a point that discussions outside of that forum which still pertain to scams would be deleted by a bot, since there would be no way of differentiating between those posts with others. Everyone's posts are still saved as backups by the administrators ;) Hmm... You're right. Didn't realize that: Yep, theymos can. He can see deleted posts and edits as well. Yes, but only admins, not moderators. They can see all edits and deletions and all history. If both sender and recipient of a PM deletes it, then it's deleted from the database completely and I can't access it except through the daily database backups. (This is a massive pain, so don't expect me to do it for you...) Deleted/edited posts are always saved forever. Surprised to see they even retain all edits. Seems like that would make the database excessively large. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: gogxmagog on May 04, 2015, 07:17:55 PM I do see people ask about deleting their accounts occasionally in the meta section. Seems pointless. If you are done here walk away and let your posts fade into necro- obscurity. In fact, when asked why they would want to delete, I cannot recall even one having a good answer. Makes me think something is up (get someone's account erased=ruin their sig earnings? Just wipe their account to mess with them?)
Anyway, good for you for seeing an opportunity and fulfilling a need in the market. Let us know if you get any takers. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: Neonecrox13 on May 13, 2015, 05:31:44 PM Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on May 13, 2015, 05:33:16 PM Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- confirmed, passwords will be deleted Jun 10th 2015. payment Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: tidus1097 on May 15, 2015, 12:34:43 AM Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- confirmed, passwords will be deleted Jun 10th 2015. payment Thank you very much Shorena. :) Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: DropsOfJupiter on May 15, 2015, 05:34:39 PM Code: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- confirmed, passwords will be deleted Jun 10th 2015. payment Thank you very much Shorena. :) Ooh, second customer. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on May 20, 2015, 09:09:16 AM UPDATE
I will no longer create mail addresses for the accounts. There are several reasons for that. Firstly I recently ran into problems generating a mail address with a freemail provider. They asked for additional information to verify that I am a real person which I am not willing to disclose. This is only an inconvenience for me and would not result in a change of the service. A friend however made me aware that the mail address is also a possible attack vector. The chance that someone would guess the correct mail address is very slim, but it exists. I decided to change the mail address to <username>@bitcointalk.org which reduces this possible attack completely. It would still be possible for the owner of this board to restore the account as they have access to the mail, but that is possible already and thus introduces no new issues. Title: Re: [SAD] I delete your account Post by: shorena on May 27, 2015, 07:04:48 PM Service temporarily suspended, will honor existing contracts.
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