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Title: Warning: Trade with extreme caution!Why?
Post by: TYPEcoin on February 20, 2015, 09:34:43 AM
Why all account's with Warning: Trade with extreme caution! are still accessible?   >:(


Title: Re: Warning: Trade with extreme caution!Why?
Post by: NeuroticFish on February 20, 2015, 09:37:18 AM
Because the trust system is far from perfect and can be abused.
And because there's freedom of speech: you can talk with him, but you better be very-very careful if you try to do business with him.


Title: Re: Warning: Trade with extreme caution!Why?
Post by: Madness on February 20, 2015, 09:40:05 AM
Why all account's with Warning: Trade with extreme caution! are still accessible?   >:(

Well that's how the trust system is designed .
Show us your accounts so we tell you why you get that message , it's most likely that people gave you Negative trust because you was asking for Loans without Collateral , or selling Paypal for BTC and refused to use an escrow , or they simply felt that you are going to scam someone . Or ... because you acutally scammed one .

~ Madness


Title: Re: Warning: Trade with extreme caution!Why?
Post by: Grand_Voyageur on February 22, 2015, 11:20:49 AM
Why all account's with Warning: Trade with extreme caution! are still accessible?   >:(

What do you mean? Could you clarify what are you asking about?

Why all account's with Warning: Trade with extreme caution! are still accessible?   >:(

Well that's how the trust system is designed .
Show us your accounts so we tell you why you get that message , it's most likely that people gave you Negative trust because you was asking for Loans without Collateral , or selling Paypal for BTC and refused to use an escrow , or they simply felt that you are going to scam someone . Or ... because you acutally scammed one .

~ Madness


His account is clean both from Trusted & Untrusted feedbacks; so, I suppose he was asking the meaning of the warning he see on each user post in Marketplace boards. I cannot grasp the proper meaning of his question but, he maybe reffering to some users like BFL, etc...still accessing the forum with their -ve trusted accounts.


Title: Re: Warning: Trade with extreme caution!Why?
Post by: Gisado on February 22, 2015, 11:36:32 AM
Why all account's with Warning: Trade with extreme caution! are still accessible?   >:(

What do you mean? Could you clarify what are you asking about?

I think he is asking why people with negative trust are not banned.


Title: Re: Warning: Trade with extreme caution!Why?
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 22, 2015, 11:38:53 AM
Why all account's with Warning: Trade with extreme caution! are still accessible?   >:(

What do you mean? Could you clarify what are you asking about?

He meant "the accounts have negative trust feedback from DF members are still accessible. Why?".

[IMG ]http://i62.tinypic.com/k1pb12.png[/img]

His account is clean both from Trusted & Untrusted feedbacks; so, I suppose he was asking the meaning of the warning he see on each user post in Marketplace boards. I cannot grasp the proper meaning of his question but, he maybe reffering to some users like BFL, etc...still accessing the forum with their -ve trusted accounts.

He isn't referring to his account, see above.

Edit:

I think he is asking why people with negative trust are not banned.

You beat me! ;)

   -MZ


Title: Re: Warning: Trade with extreme caution!Why?
Post by: Grand_Voyageur on February 22, 2015, 11:40:13 AM
Why all account's with Warning: Trade with extreme caution! are still accessible?   >:(

What do you mean? Could you clarify what are you asking about?

I think he is asking why people with negative trust are not banned.

If this was OP intention then reply should be: because is not forum policy to ban people with -ve trust score since trust was not moderated and given by each user.


Title: Re: Warning: Trade with extreme caution!Why?
Post by: Grand_Voyageur on February 22, 2015, 11:44:25 AM
[IMG ]http://i62.tinypic.com/k1pb12.png[/img]

His account is clean both from Trusted & Untrusted feedbacks; so, I suppose he was asking the meaning of the warning he see on each user post in Marketplace boards. I cannot grasp the proper meaning of his question but, he maybe reffering to some users like BFL, etc...still accessing the forum with their -ve trusted accounts.

He isn't referring to his account, see above.

You quote my reply to Madness. OP was not so much clear so I had to guess what he means with his 1st post. Reply to Madness was because He tought OP was referring to its own trust score.


Title: Re: Warning: Trade with extreme caution!Why?
Post by: BadBear on February 23, 2015, 03:52:28 AM
It's pretty obvious he's asking why scammers (or people with negative trust scores) aren't banned.


Title: Re: Warning: Trade with extreme caution!Why?
Post by: ColderThanIce on February 23, 2015, 01:10:29 PM
It's pretty obvious he's asking why scammers (or people with negative trust scores) aren't banned.
in that case i think that they aren't banned because then they'd just make a new account to scam people with. at least with an established account they have a red trust. with a new one nobody would be aware that they've scammed ppl before.


Title: Re: Warning: Trade with extreme caution!Why?
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 23, 2015, 01:11:40 PM
It's pretty obvious he's asking why scammers (or people with negative trust scores) aren't banned.
in that case i think that they aren't banned because then they'd just make a new account to scam people with. at least with an established account they have a red trust. with a new one nobody would be aware that they've scammed ppl before.

Forum doesn't moderate scams.

   -MZ


Title: Re: Warning: Trade with extreme caution!Why?
Post by: michietn94 on February 23, 2015, 02:00:04 PM
It's pretty obvious he's asking why scammers (or people with negative trust scores) aren't banned.

Receive negative feedback doesn't mean it must be ban.
He/she just not deserve to do any trade anymore. They still can contribute to this forum
Am I right..


Title: Re: Warning: Trade with extreme caution!Why?
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 23, 2015, 02:06:49 PM
It's pretty obvious he's asking why scammers (or people with negative trust scores) aren't banned.

Receive negative feedback doesn't mean it must be ban.
He/she just not deserve to do any trade anymore. They still can contribute to this forum
Am I right..

Half correct, he/she still deserve to trade but this time onwards, using escrow.

   -MZ


Title: Re: Warning: Trade with extreme caution!Why?
Post by: TrianglePythagoras on February 23, 2015, 02:19:52 PM
Why all account's with Warning: Trade with extreme caution! are still accessible?   >:(

It's just scammers/potential scammers who have been left negative trust by somebody on the default trust. You can trade with them, but with escrow only.


Title: Re: Warning: Trade with extreme caution!Why?
Post by: erikalui on February 23, 2015, 02:52:17 PM
I have the same question to ask as I haven't seen any accounts banned or deleted here and some have like -50 trust in their account and still can be accessed. Where are the moderators and why they don't ban cheats?


Title: Re: Warning: Trade with extreme caution!Why?
Post by: Neonecrox13 on February 23, 2015, 04:29:03 PM
I have the same question to ask as I haven't seen any accounts banned or deleted here and some have like -50 trust in their account and still can be accessed. Where are the moderators and why they don't ban cheats?

Here's you a good example. My convicted2008 account is stolen atm, and it has a negative trust of -2k something. I can't access it nor do I know if whoever stole it can still access it. I requested that it be locked until this is figured out, but idk if it is or not since I've received no message from the mods and whoever has it hasn't logged into it since he changed the password and tried to get a loan with it.


Title: Re: Warning: Trade with extreme caution!Why?
Post by: erikalui on February 23, 2015, 04:49:40 PM
I have the same question to ask as I haven't seen any accounts banned or deleted here and some have like -50 trust in their account and still can be accessed. Where are the moderators and why they don't ban cheats?

Here's you a good example. My convicted2008 account is stolen atm, and it has a negative trust of -2k something. I can't access it nor do I know if whoever stole it can still access it. I requested that it be locked until this is figured out, but idk if it is or not since I've received no message from the mods and whoever has it hasn't logged into it since he changed the password and tried to get a loan with it.

You should have received a message from the mods. I don't know how they work then as these negative trust accounts should be checked properly and be deleted or banned. Other forums work harder to keep the forum clean while here, scammers everyday create new accounts when their earlier account gains a negative trust.


Title: Re: Warning: Trade with extreme caution!Why?
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 23, 2015, 04:56:40 PM
I have the same question to ask as I haven't seen any accounts banned or deleted here and some have like -50 trust in their account and still can be accessed. Where are the moderators and why they don't ban cheats?

Scammers tend to come back.

Here's you a good example. My convicted2008 account is stolen atm, and it has a negative trust of -2k something. I can't access it nor do I know if whoever stole it can still access it. I requested that it be locked until this is figured out, but idk if it is or not since I've received no message from the mods and whoever has it hasn't logged into it since he changed the password and tried to get a loan with it.

You should PM theymos and Badbear, Mods can't do anything about this. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497545.0

You should have received a message from the mods. I don't know how they work then as these negative trust accounts should be checked properly and be deleted or banned. Other forums work harder to keep the forum clean while here, scammers everyday create new accounts when their earlier account gains a negative trust.

Like I said, mods can't do anything about this. Yes, scammers tend to come back.

    -MZ


Title: Re: Warning: Trade with extreme caution!Why?
Post by: Neonecrox13 on February 23, 2015, 05:26:14 PM
I have the same question to ask as I haven't seen any accounts banned or deleted here and some have like -50 trust in their account and still can be accessed. Where are the moderators and why they don't ban cheats?

Scammers tend to come back.

Here's you a good example. My convicted2008 account is stolen atm, and it has a negative trust of -2k something. I can't access it nor do I know if whoever stole it can still access it. I requested that it be locked until this is figured out, but idk if it is or not since I've received no message from the mods and whoever has it hasn't logged into it since he changed the password and tried to get a loan with it.

You should PM theymos and Badbear, Mods can't do anything about this. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497545.0

You should have received a message from the mods. I don't know how they work then as these negative trust accounts should be checked properly and be deleted or banned. Other forums work harder to keep the forum clean while here, scammers everyday create new accounts when their earlier account gains a negative trust.

Like I said, mods can't do anything about this. Yes, scammers tend to come back.

    -MZ

I've pm'ed Theymos a few times now.


Title: Re: Warning: Trade with extreme caution!Why?
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 23, 2015, 05:41:16 PM
I've pm'ed Theymos a few times now.

Badbear? If not, try sending a PM to him. Don't forget to follow the stickied thread(guide).

   -MZ


Title: Re: Warning: Trade with extreme caution!Why?
Post by: Neonecrox13 on February 23, 2015, 10:18:21 PM
No I haven't pm'ed him but I'm gonna