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Title: Forum mods?
Post by: crazyearner on March 04, 2015, 02:58:05 AM
Where can you apply to be a mod or part of the staff team who would be best to contact on here as am interested in poss becoming a mod to help out across the sections that need to be cleaned up and kept tidy.


Title: Re: Forum mods?
Post by: EFS on March 04, 2015, 03:06:08 AM
There is no application form. You have to report posts. If you have a good accuracy and decent report quality you might have a chance.


Title: Re: Forum mods?
Post by: PenguinFire on March 04, 2015, 03:06:39 AM
I don't think it is possible to apply.  I believe they are only chosen when there is a need more another staff member.  I am sure there are threads on this subject.

Peace


Title: Re: Forum mods?
Post by: crazyearner on March 04, 2015, 03:09:10 AM
There is no application form. You have to report posts. If you have a good accuracy and decent report quality you might have a chance.

Thank you for the info. I have since started reporting posts and so far 10/10 have been sport on just reported another now and going to continue to report them.

Shame their is not application form for this sort of thing as ma sure many would apply for the job as it does need a lot of work doing. I have in the past put ideas forward for sections to be made up but never heard a single response to them. Guessing didn't see them or just didn't approve them


Title: Re: Forum mods?
Post by: CrackedLogic on March 04, 2015, 03:59:59 AM
There is no application form. You have to report posts. If you have a good accuracy and decent report quality you might have a chance.

Thank you for the info. I have since started reporting posts and so far 10/10 have been sport on just reported another now and going to continue to report them.

Shame their is not application form for this sort of thing as ma sure many would apply for the job as it does need a lot of work doing. I have in the past put ideas forward for sections to be made up but never heard a single response to them. Guessing didn't see them or just didn't approve them

An application form would be overwhelming for all the mods and staff members to contend with. Rather step forward to a member with the power to make you a staff member.


Title: Re: Forum mods?
Post by: crazyearner on March 05, 2015, 01:41:35 AM
There is no application form. You have to report posts. If you have a good accuracy and decent report quality you might have a chance.

Thank you for the info. I have since started reporting posts and so far 10/10 have been sport on just reported another now and going to continue to report them.

Shame their is not application form for this sort of thing as ma sure many would apply for the job as it does need a lot of work doing. I have in the past put ideas forward for sections to be made up but never heard a single response to them. Guessing didn't see them or just didn't approve them

An application form would be overwhelming for all the mods and staff members to contend with. Rather step forward to a member with the power to make you a staff member.

I guess so but could be a good thing if their is staff needed and not just picking people at random. Would give people the opportunity to work somewhere with demands and a massive community that needs mods. Already doing my part but some of it seems to go un noticed from what I can see but then again never really spoke to staff on a level for a job. Who would be best to speak to mr mods or some staff member to ask about a job on here. Is their even any currently going or is Bitcointlak even looking for members of staff?


Title: Re: Forum mods?
Post by: CrackedLogic on March 05, 2015, 04:50:27 AM
There is no application form. You have to report posts. If you have a good accuracy and decent report quality you might have a chance.

Thank you for the info. I have since started reporting posts and so far 10/10 have been sport on just reported another now and going to continue to report them.

Shame their is not application form for this sort of thing as ma sure many would apply for the job as it does need a lot of work doing. I have in the past put ideas forward for sections to be made up but never heard a single response to them. Guessing didn't see them or just didn't approve them

An application form would be overwhelming for all the mods and staff members to contend with. Rather step forward to a member with the power to make you a staff member.

I guess so but could be a good thing if their is staff needed and not just picking people at random. Would give people the opportunity to work somewhere with demands and a massive community that needs mods. Already doing my part but some of it seems to go un noticed from what I can see but then again never really spoke to staff on a level for a job. Who would be best to speak to mr mods or some staff member to ask about a job on here. Is their even any currently going or is Bitcointlak even looking for members of staff?

I have a feeling Eal F. Skillz is going to be demoted, so you may be able to fulfil his space.


Title: Re: Forum mods?
Post by: Mitchell on March 05, 2015, 07:12:17 AM
I have a feeling Eal F. Skillz is going to be demoted, so you may be able to fulfil his space.
Not sure what you smoked, but I'm sure that Eal isn't going to be demoted any time soon. I'm guessing you think this because he has a scam accusation against him, but that isn't a good enough reason for theymos if he does his job correctly (which he does as far as I know). To be honest, if theymos demoted people that had scam accusations against them, a lot of good staff members would be gone by now (for example mprep).


Title: Re: Forum mods?
Post by: MadZ on March 05, 2015, 07:22:05 AM
There is no application form. You have to report posts. If you have a good accuracy and decent report quality you might have a chance.

Thank you for the info. I have since started reporting posts and so far 10/10 have been sport on just reported another now and going to continue to report them.

Shame their is not application form for this sort of thing as ma sure many would apply for the job as it does need a lot of work doing. I have in the past put ideas forward for sections to be made up but never heard a single response to them. Guessing didn't see them or just didn't approve them

An application form would be overwhelming for all the mods and staff members to contend with. Rather step forward to a member with the power to make you a staff member.

I guess so but could be a good thing if their is staff needed and not just picking people at random. Would give people the opportunity to work somewhere with demands and a massive community that needs mods. Already doing my part but some of it seems to go un noticed from what I can see but then again never really spoke to staff on a level for a job. Who would be best to speak to mr mods or some staff member to ask about a job on here. Is their even any currently going or is Bitcointlak even looking for members of staff?

I have a feeling Eal F. Skillz is going to be demoted, so you may be able to fulfil his space.
Not sure what you smoked, but Eal isn't going to be demoted any time soon. I'm guessing you think this because he has a scam accusation against him, but that isn't a good reason  for theymos if he does his job correctly (which he does as far as I know).
To be honest, if theymos demoted people that had scam accusations against them, a lot of good staff members would be gone by now (for example mprep).

This isn't entirely true, xDeathwing was pretty much demoted for scamming (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287622.msg3127039#msg3127039). Technically, theymos said it was for his conduct related to the incident, not the scam itself, since it wasn't clear whether or not he actually owed anything. Regardless, I think most people would agree that scammers by definition are untrustworthy, and it would be unwise to allow one to remain part of the staff. This all being said, there is a difference between a scam accusation and a credible scam accusation, which most of the accusations against staff usually are not.


Title: Re: Forum mods?
Post by: shorena on March 05, 2015, 07:24:14 AM
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I guess so but could be a good thing if their is staff needed and not just picking people at random.

I dont think they pick people at random. Several local section were in need of a new mod recently and theymos asked the respective local community to discuss who would be suited for the job.

Would give people the opportunity to work somewhere with demands and a massive community that needs mods. Already doing my part but some of it seems to go un noticed from what I can see but then again never really spoke to staff on a level for a job.
-snip-

I did plenty of reports and I think the mods notice. Its not like you will get a letter of appreciation every X hundred reports, but e.g. get a little thank you in a sideline. IMHO if you are looking for appreciation and recognition moderation is not the place to go. Most of what mods do in order to keep this place as functional as it is will not get noticed and people are constantly complaining about how bad it is and how this or that should be changed.


Title: Re: Forum mods?
Post by: Mitchell on March 05, 2015, 07:29:37 AM
This isn't entirely true, xDeathwing was pretty much demoted for scamming (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=287622.msg3127039#msg3127039). Technically, theymos said it was for his conduct related to the incident, not the scam itself, since it wasn't clear whether or not he actually owed anything. Regardless, I think most people would agree that scammers by definition are untrustworthy, and it would be unwise to allow one to remain part of the staff. This all being said, there is a difference between a scam accusation and a credible scam accusation, which most of the accusations against staff usually are not.
Well, xDeathwing is a different case, but you are correct, there is indeed a (big) difference.

I guess so but could be a good thing if their is staff needed and not just picking people at random. Would give people the opportunity to work somewhere with demands and a massive community that needs mods. Already doing my part but some of it seems to go un noticed from what I can see but then again never really spoke to staff on a level for a job. Who would be best to speak to mr mods or some staff member to ask about a job on here. Is their even any currently going or is Bitcointlak even looking for members of staff?
If you feel like you would be a good addition to the team, you could try and send a message to theymos, telling him why you think you could be a staff member, what you would like to do, why you would like to do that, how you are qualified to do so, etc. If you are really active in a board, you could try to become a moderator there or you could try and become a patroller (which keeps the newbies in check). That's how hilariousandco started.


Title: Re: Forum mods?
Post by: BadBear on March 05, 2015, 07:40:55 AM

IMHO if you are looking for appreciation and recognition moderation is not the place to go. Most of what mods do in order to keep this place as functional as it is will not get noticed and people are constantly complaining about how bad it is and how this or that should be changed.

Truth. Being a mod here is a good way to develop a thick skin.


Title: Re: Forum mods?
Post by: Lorenzo on March 05, 2015, 07:44:17 AM
I have a feeling Eal F. Skillz is going to be demoted, so you may be able to fulfil his space.
Not sure what you smoked, but I'm sure that Eal isn't going to be demoted any time soon. I'm guessing you think this because he has a scam accusation against him, but that isn't a good enough reason for theymos if he does his job correctly (which he does as far as I know). To be honest, if theymos demoted people that had scam accusations against them, a lot of good staff members would be gone by now (for example mprep).

Umm... mrprep's trust rating looks good from where I'm at. I'm using the default trust list:

http://s23.postimg.org/7csy2zvvf/zzz.png


Title: Re: Forum mods?
Post by: SaltySpitoon on March 05, 2015, 07:45:34 AM
If you feel like you would be a good staff member, you could try and send a message to theymos, telling him why you think you could be a staff member, what you would like to do, why, how you are qualified to do so, etc. If you are really active in a board, you could try to become a moderator there or you could be a patroller (which keeps the newbies in check).

I'd say that generally isn't a good idea, I'm sure some exceptions are made, but wanted to head that off before Theymos wakes up to 500 staff applications from random people. There are a few ways that staff are picked, what happens is a need for staff is realized, candidates are then narrowed down based on their report history, ie how many reports they have filed, their relative accuracy, whether the person has a suitable disposition, in other words the forum's biggest trolls/jerks probably aren't going to make that list, people that aren't going to fly off the handle when the 50 Meta threads about Mods sucking show up, its occasionally discussed with other staff, etc.

So no, its not random, but there aren't typical moderator applications. Things are a little bit different with local sections, like mentioned before Theymos asks the community who they would like to be the moderator of the section. Its hard for Theymos/Badbear to judge a moderator's quality if they speak a language that no one else on the staff speaks, so then its up to the community to decide.

As far as demoting staff based on scam accusations, I'm not sure how that works. I dont know if being a scammer automatically prevents you from being a scammer, or if it just has weight in the decision. I haven't looked into the accusation, because its none of my concern, but unless you speak turkish, probably not going to get Eal F. Skillz's position.

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I guess so but could be a good thing if their is staff needed and not just picking people at random.

I dont think they pick people at random. Several local section were in need of a new mod recently and theymos asked the respective local community to discuss who would be suited for the job.

Would give people the opportunity to work somewhere with demands and a massive community that needs mods. Already doing my part but some of it seems to go un noticed from what I can see but then again never really spoke to staff on a level for a job.
-snip-

I did plenty of reports and I think the mods notice. Its not like you will get a letter of appreciation every X hundred reports, but e.g. get a little thank you in a sideline. IMHO if you are looking for appreciation and recognition moderation is not the place to go. Most of what mods do in order to keep this place as functional as it is will not get noticed and people are constantly complaining about how bad it is and how this or that should be changed.

Thank you Shorena, you are indeed correct, we do notice your reports and appreciate them. The only time I really pm someone who has reported posts/threads is when I'd like some clarification, it would take too long to send everyone a personalized thank you, or even just a standard, thank you. I have 347 reports at time of typing and I'd like to handle the majority before I go to bed, thats sort of the reason you don't get a personallized thank you, but this is a good opportunity to say thank you  :)


Title: Re: Forum mods?
Post by: Mitchell on March 05, 2015, 07:48:40 AM
I'd say that generally isn't a good idea, I'm sure some exceptions are made, but wanted to head that off before Theymos wakes up to 500 staff applications from random people.
Yeah, you are right. That wasn't the best advice I've given lately. My bad.

Umm... mrprep's trust rating looks good from where I'm at. I'm using the default trust list:

[IMAGE]
I was talking about the "love" threads about him on here. ;)


Title: Re: Forum mods?
Post by: hilariousandco on March 05, 2015, 07:53:57 AM
Reporting posts is the best way to go about it. That way the admins can see if you're needed or would be a valuable asset to the staff seeing as you know the rules and are active enough to handle infractions and reports accurately.

I'm guessing you think this because he has a scam accusation against him, but that isn't a good enough reason for theymos if he does his job correctly (which he does as far as I know). To be honest, if theymos demoted people that had scam accusations against them, a lot of good staff members would be gone by now (for example mprep).

I don't think the money is the big issue here as it's not really a scam in my opinion, but the issue about the trust abuse and whether the other accounts are eal's or just his friends should be cleared up.


IMHO if you are looking for appreciation and recognition moderation is not the place to go. Most of what mods do in order to keep this place as functional as it is will not get noticed and people are constantly complaining about how bad it is and how this or that should be changed.

Truth. Being a mod here is a good way to develop a thick skin.


I think it's probably best you already have one before you start. Could be a shock to the system if you don't.

I have a feeling Eal F. Skillz is going to be demoted, so you may be able to fulfil his space.
Not sure what you smoked, but I'm sure that Eal isn't going to be demoted any time soon. I'm guessing you think this because he has a scam accusation against him, but that isn't a good enough reason for theymos if he does his job correctly (which he does as far as I know). To be honest, if theymos demoted people that had scam accusations against them, a lot of good staff members would be gone by now (for example mprep).

Umm... mrprep's trust rating looks good from where I'm at. I'm using the default trust list:

http://s23.postimg.org/7csy2zvvf/zzz.png

He's talking about a meritless 'scam' accusation some pissed off alt coiner started about mprep because his thread got re/moved or something.


Title: Re: Forum mods?
Post by: Lorenzo on March 05, 2015, 07:56:18 AM
I was talking about the "love" threads about him on here. ;)

Ah, I see haha. Well it's usually pretty obvious that he's not a scammer in that case. :D



Title: Re: Forum mods?
Post by: SaltySpitoon on March 05, 2015, 08:19:41 AM
See, being a moderator on a pro freedom of speech, libertarian/anarchist demographic forum is not all its cracked up to be. Moderating a group of people who don't want to be moderated is more than a thankless job, its doing a job that people dont want done, in order to help those people that are complaining about you. You can't even go on a power trip, because as soon as you start, the Meta threads come piling in and ruin any fun that could be. Sure its pretty entertaining, a neat position to be in, and you get to hang with the people of Bitcointalk, definitely not complaining, if I didn't love it, I would have packed it up long ago. But if praise or recognition is what you want, tis not the position for you. You are far more appreciated for just reporting posts, even if you don't get a thank you pm. On the upside, I feel like being a mod here is the ultimate in human resources/customer service training. My time here has trained me to deal with people better than anything else possibly could, I bet I could even handle being public relations for BFL  :P .

My point being, by reporting posts, you really help us out. If you are a bit frustrated thinking that you have reported enough posts to prove that you are moderator material, take a step back and think about how much you are helping us out. You get far more appreciation from us for reporting posts, than you would for being a moderator.

I love you.




IMHO if you are looking for appreciation and recognition moderation is not the place to go. Most of what mods do in order to keep this place as functional as it is will not get noticed and people are constantly complaining about how bad it is and how this or that should be changed.

Truth. Being a mod here is a good way to develop a thick skin.


I'm now at the point where I honestly couldn't care less about anything anyone says about me. Most people don't figure that out until they are like 70, so I'm pretty content with that aspect of the job as well.


Title: Re: Forum mods?
Post by: shorena on March 05, 2015, 08:47:48 AM
Now Im all warm and fuzzy inside.

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Gillian-Jacobs-Joel-Mchale-Say-Thank-You-On-Community.gif

http://csicable.net/~bengalsmessageboard/images/moderator.png (http://www.quickmeme.com/img/ee/eec405963f39cf516203b87523a9d2e86e579c63f3d726791e15647bdc043166.jpg)



Title: Re: Forum mods?
Post by: buyandhold on March 05, 2015, 10:41:31 AM
oh yeah let's revive the bitpop should be a mod campaign


Title: Re: Forum mods?
Post by: crazyearner on March 06, 2015, 01:02:03 AM
Wow so many responses from some admins mods and main mods. I will be sure to take on info and continue to report stuff as I find it. And as for bare saying think skin theheh. Already have that and worked on a number of sites including my own forums website and other peoples taking action when needed and sorting though the BS and crap with a fine comb.