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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: MarkMJ on March 11, 2015, 10:52:22 AM



Title: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: MarkMJ on March 11, 2015, 10:52:22 AM
Hello,

Today when I just log into my account I so this:

Negative from user Tomatocage.

Known scammer Hannes Pajusalu. The following sites should be considered fraudulent: pm2btc.me, xchange.cc/en, unichange.me, xmlgold.eu, coinomat.com, sbxchanger.com.

After some search I see that the account of Tomatocage is foll of Negative feedback.
Please Help.

edit:

Also please check https://perfectmoney.is/business-partners.html





Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: micky123 on March 11, 2015, 11:05:14 AM
Hello,

Today when I just log into my account I so this:

Negative from user Tomatocage.

Known scammer Hannes Pajusalu. The following sites should be considered fraudulent: pm2btc.me, xchange.cc/en, unichange.me, xmlgold.eu, coinomat.com, sbxchanger.com.

After some search I see that the account of Tomatocage is foll of Negative feedback.
Please Help.


Hi,

You may want to PM Tomatocage and find out why he has rated you so. The reference just points to a website of a scammer. Better to get the information from the horse's mouth imo. I just ran through your account and posts and didn't see any reference to those websites. Tomatocage is a well respected member of this community, so i doubt he would have given you a negative feedback for nothing! He could have maybe made a mistake, either ways.. PM him and clarify it!   :)


Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: MarkMJ on March 11, 2015, 11:19:20 AM
Hi,

You may want to PM Tomatocage and find out why he has rated you so. The reference just points to a website of a scammer. Better to get the information from the horse's mouth imo. I just ran through your account and posts and didn't see any reference to those websites. Tomatocage is a well respected member of this community, so i doubt he would have given you a negative feedback for nothing! He could have maybe made a mistake, either ways.. PM him and clarify it!   :)

Hello dear,

I already send him a PM,I hope I will get soon a reply from him because is not fair to give someone a negative feedback without knowing or making a deal,
Wait for reply.


Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: KWH on March 11, 2015, 11:24:41 AM
Hi,

You may want to PM Tomatocage and find out why he has rated you so. The reference just points to a website of a scammer. Better to get the information from the horse's mouth imo. I just ran through your account and posts and didn't see any reference to those websites. Tomatocage is a well respected member of this community, so i doubt he would have given you a negative feedback for nothing! He could have maybe made a mistake, either ways.. PM him and clarify it!   :)

Hello dear,

I already send him a PM,I hope I will get soon a reply from him because is not fair to give someone a negative feedback without knowing or making a deal,
Wait for reply.

It's perfectly fair if his information is correct.


Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: MarkMJ on March 11, 2015, 11:28:15 AM
It's perfectly fair if his information is correct.

Hello dear,

What do you mean?





Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: KWH on March 11, 2015, 11:29:25 AM
It's perfectly fair if his information is correct.

Hello dear,

What do you mean?



Dear,
It's pretty self explanatory. Once someone had been scammed, it's too late.


Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: MarkMJ on March 11, 2015, 11:32:45 AM
Dear,
It's pretty self explanatory. Once someone had been scammed, it's too late.

Dear,

I just try to help a user with some exchanging website,
After I got mail I also send him the Perfect Money Certified Partners
When I make an exchange I also use Perfect Money Certified Partners


Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: kotwica666 on March 11, 2015, 11:35:13 AM
In "Reference" is just website. There is no info about how he find out this. I sent him PM too. Hopefully he will explain why he give him -ve.

Ps. I run sig campaign where MarkMJ is one of participants. With -ve i have to remove him. But just website link is not enough proof for me to belive in this information. Let's wait for more info from Tomatocage.


Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: arallmuus on March 11, 2015, 12:04:04 PM
Hello dear,

I already send him a PM,I hope I will get soon a reply from him because is not fair to give someone a negative feedback without knowing or making a deal,
Wait for reply.

He doesnt need to make a deal with you to give you some trust feedback, because by giving someone negative trust it means that you could either be scammed or strongly believe that person is a scammer, check out here for info

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=382490

Quote
Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer.



TC is a fair guy, if you can proof that his claim is false that you are a scammer, he will remove it

EDIT : a quick search, xmlgold.eu have been partnering with c-cex for quite along time now



Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: MarkMJ on March 11, 2015, 12:06:27 PM
TC is a fair guy, if you can proof that his claim is false that you are a scammer, he will remove it

Hello dear,

So now I'm a scammar?  ???
Because I try to help people that's why I'm a scammer?
Mu proof is here https://perfectmoney.is/business-partners.html


Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: EcuaMobi on March 11, 2015, 12:09:42 PM
TC is a fair guy, if you can proof that his claim is false that you are a scammer, he will remove it

Hello dear,

So now I'm a scammar?  ???
Because I try to help people that's why I'm a scammer?
Mu proof is here https://perfectmoney.is/business-partners.html

You should elaborate on this proof.

If he's convinced you're not a scammer of course he will remove his review but you need more than a link. Elaborate and explain your case.


Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: Astargath on March 11, 2015, 12:09:48 PM
He does not have a lot of negative trust, the only negative trust he has is from butthurt scammers and if he believes you are a scammer i totally believe him


Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: arallmuus on March 11, 2015, 12:12:45 PM
TC is a fair guy, if you can proof that his claim is false that you are a scammer, he will remove it

Hello dear,

So now I'm a scammar?  ???
Because I try to help people that's why I'm a scammer?
Mu proof is here https://perfectmoney.is/business-partners.html

let me rephrase it clearly

TC thinks that you MAYBE are a scammer, that is why he is giving you red trust, just incase people wont be scammed

IF you have a solid proof that you are not a scammer or whatsoever, relax, he will come, give his opinion and remove the negative trust



Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: MarkMJ on March 11, 2015, 12:18:09 PM
You should elaborate on this proof.
If he's convinced you're not a scammer of course he will remove his review but you need more than a link. Elaborate and explain your case.

I post to a topic with a list of exchanging website to exchange bitcoin and than I type
pm2btc.me
xchange.cc/en
unichange.me
xmlgold.eu
coinomat.com
sbxchanger.com
like this.
All the list is from https://perfectmoney.is/business-partners.html please check and reply after.


let me rephrase it clearly
TC thinks that you MAYBE are a scammer, that is why he is giving you red trust, just incase people wont be scammed
IF you have a solid proof that you are not a scammer or whatsoever, relax, he will come, give his opinion and remove the negative trust

I'm relax you have the solid proof.





Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: MarkMJ on March 11, 2015, 12:20:33 PM
User Tomatocage is now online,please reply


Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: MarkMJ on March 11, 2015, 12:46:05 PM
Hello,

All I know is that when a website is called scam and also have proff like
Hannes Pajusalu who has already served a two-year prison sentence for conspiracy to transfer criminal property.
Ok,when you say prison you can also say website is offline.
I also don't understand why perfectmoney still have the link to Certified Partners
The website is online,all website's are online.
This is just a bad transaction for a user that that have some problems with xmlgold.eu
Is not fair to give someone negative because is trying to help other user
I also think this is all about when someone make a new post and say!!
Need to exchange my ... and that he wait to get reply about some choices
I receive Negative because I try to HELP a user.


Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: micky123 on March 11, 2015, 12:48:53 PM
Hello,

All I know is that when a website is called scam and also have proff like
Hannes Pajusalu who has already served a two-year prison sentence for conspiracy to transfer criminal property.
Ok,when you say prison you can also say website is offline.
I also don't understand why perfectmoney still have the link to Certified Partners
The website is online,all website's are online.
This is just a bad transaction for a user that that have some problems with xmlgold.eu
Is not fair to give someone negative because is trying to help other user
I also think this is all about when someone make a new post and say!!
Need to exchange my ... and that he wait to get reply about some choices
I receive Negative because I try to HELP a user.

Relax bud,

It seems like a misunderstanding and TC should get back to you soon. Posting in Red does not help him or you, so refrain from screaming out loud here. What's your hurry to get the feedback removed? He should be by soon, i guess KWH has already informed him too. Just take a chill pill and wait.


Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: MarkMJ on March 11, 2015, 12:53:43 PM
Relax bud,

It seems like a misunderstanding and TC should get back to you soon. Posting in Red does not help him or you, so refrain from screaming out loud here. What's your hurry to get the feedback removed? He should be by soon, i guess KWH has already informed him too. Just take a chill pill and wait.

Hello dear,

This is my hurry.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=954885.msg10655217#msg10655217
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=965319.msg10655318#msg10655318


Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: abyrnes81 on March 11, 2015, 12:58:05 PM
A negative feedback doesn't stop you and the other users to trade with each other. It is only put a warning and suggest the other user to use an escrow and pay much more attention, nothing to worry. However only Tomatocage can remove the negative trust, maybe it was better to not open a thread and contact him through a personal message.


Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: MarkMJ on March 11, 2015, 01:04:07 PM
A negative feedback doesn't stop you and the other users to trade with each other. It is only put a warning and suggest the other user to use an escrow and pay much more attention, nothing to worry. However only Tomatocage can remove the negative trust, maybe it was better to not open a thread and contact him through a personal message.

Hello dear,


Why do you say maybe it was better to not open a thread and contact him through a personal message.
Explain why you are qualified for this position.

edit:

5 minutes and than you are offline.


Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: micky123 on March 11, 2015, 01:18:03 PM
A negative feedback doesn't stop you and the other users to trade with each other. It is only put a warning and suggest the other user to use an escrow and pay much more attention, nothing to worry. However only Tomatocage can remove the negative trust, maybe it was better to not open a thread and contact him through a personal message.

Hello dear,


Why do you say maybe it was better to not open a thread and contact him through a personal message.
Explain why you are qualified for this position.

Stop acting like a dick to other users. Naturally, this issue should have been sorted in a PM and not by creating a thread. What did you achieve by creating this thread? And why do you want to keep bumping this thread all the time? Let TC get back, there is no point bumping this thread up all the time in the hope that TC will see it and fix it immediately. As mentioned already, negative feedback does not stop you from conducting trades on the forum.


Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: MarkMJ on March 11, 2015, 01:29:53 PM
Hello,

I creating this thread because I know my crimes and all my crimes are in real life not here and nothing is related to money
I don't know but I think he will make something that I already see on exchangemoneyforum
What I see!!
A user try to make all good cuz everyone will believe it
or 2
A user try to make all good cuz everyone will believe it and than you make a BIG SCAM.
I think!!here has already happened with others

edit:

For user's which ask me what I type in that PM

Hello dear,

Why you give me negative?
Please check this link https://perfectmoney.is/business-partners.html and remove my negative.
Thank you.


Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: abyrnes81 on March 11, 2015, 01:56:32 PM
A negative feedback doesn't stop you and the other users to trade with each other. It is only put a warning and suggest the other user to use an escrow and pay much more attention, nothing to worry. However only Tomatocage can remove the negative trust, maybe it was better to not open a thread and contact him through a personal message.

Hello dear,


Why do you say maybe it was better to not open a thread and contact him through a personal message.
Explain why you are qualified for this position.

edit:

5 minutes and than you are offline.



Hey, I am here (don't worry).  Because it was not necessary to open a thread, it is a question between you and Tomatocage and a simple PM could resolve all the situation without the creation of this thread. Are you a kid or an adult person? If the answer is "I am an adult" then you should act as an adult ;). Good luck.


Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: coinomat.com on March 11, 2015, 02:29:16 PM
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/monsterhunterfanon/images/9/9c/Wut-babka.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140212003602


Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: MarkMJ on March 11, 2015, 02:30:20 PM
Hey, I am here (don't worry).  Because it was not necessary to open a thread, it is a question between you and Tomatocage and a simple PM could resolve all the situation without the creation of this thread. Are you a kid or an adult person? If the answer is "I am an adult" then you should act as an adult ;). Good luck.

Hello dear,

Is not about if I'm an adult or NOT!!is about to show the world who is actually this user
I see that the world considers a scan SCAM,not so!not for me.
Check again all that give feedback and you will understand more.
My evidence is clear and safe at https://perfectmoney.is/business-partners.html
Also check this http://e-currency-exchangers-scammers.blogspot.ro/2013/04/xmlgoldeu-scammer-fraud.html
NOTE:
You can't say SCAM if you DON'T make any transaction on a website
Xchanger.org that is now changer.com is not SCAM I know the owner and no bad transaction with his name
MagneticExchange.com is not SCAM
XMLgold.eu I have only one transaction that is completed,NOT SCAM for me.
Check again all the domains that are type on http://e-currency-exchangers-scammers.blogspot.ro on goolge (more about ...)
A lots of domains are now inactive because of LR,many of them are still online and also to Perfect Money Certified Partners
Perfect Money Certified Partners:
Perfect Money payment system is permissive towards exchange service - partners and calls not to fail to observe the present Code. In case of systematic violation of Code, the exchange service-partner will be excluded from the list of the partners and Perfect Money will not recommend undertake the transactions through that exchange service.

edit:

What about this??
http://s3.postimg.org/us89554nj/proff.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/us89554nj/)


Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: allyouracid on March 11, 2015, 03:46:14 PM
TC is a fair guy, if you can proof that his claim is false that you are a scammer, he will remove it

Hello dear,

So now I'm a scammar?  ???
Because I try to help people that's why I'm a scammer?
Mu proof is here https://perfectmoney.is/business-partners.html

You should elaborate on this proof.

If he's convinced you're not a scammer of course he will remove his review but you need more than a link. Elaborate and explain your case.

How is that? Because here, everyone is guilty until proven otherwise? In dubio pro accusator?

.edit: one question: what does "-ve" mean? I often see this in relation to feedback/trust ratings, but I don't know what it means. Is that an abbreviation?
Please, enlighten me. :)


Title: Re: I receive Negative without no reason,please HELP.
Post by: MarkMJ on March 11, 2015, 04:08:11 PM
Hello,

I will not give up because I do not agree to receive negative because this user is called scan scam
I don't see the point of this negative.
In this moment I will stop help user's of bitcointalk.
NOTE:
If I will get scammed of any site I will not post anything here (you will also get scammed)
If i think that a user is scammar I will also stand still (you will also get scammed)
I know a lots of admins can easily give money back if they scam you from a simple message like,I know your name (you will also get scammed)
I give 1 hours to Tomatocage to delete my negative,after 1 hours I will close this and I will take action
Time will solve all.