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I had made a tx with blockchain.info wallet and it don't confirm in 10 days (it is not double spend, paying 1 satoshi fee) and I can't use the coins now. What can I do?

First, post the txid (transaction id).

1 satoshi is not an appropriate fee. Either go without any fee if your transaction qualifies for exemption, or pay the appropriate fee of 0.0001 per 1KB of tx size (see here (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees) for details). In blockchain.info and any decent Bitcoin client, it is done automatically. In your case, it seems that you played with fire by manually editing and lowering the fee in 'Advanced' settings.

What you can do now about the unconfirmed tx is either:

• Wait for it to expire (don't know about BC.info policy on unconfirmed tx expiry, you should contact them for details), or
• Have one of the outputs spend the unconfirmed coins with an appropriate fee, i.e. a fee covering at least both transactions according to the rule described above, and then some pools implementing this "cascading" feature like Eligius should confirm it (however, it may be difficult to spend coins from unconfirmed transactions, you will probably need help).

I have no idea about the amount in your unconfirmed transaction, but if it's less than, say, 0.05BTC, it might not even be worth the effort, depending on your own standards (i.e. how you value the time that you will spend resolving it)

If possible, try to resend the input that you use in your current unconfirmed transaction / make a double spend of it and don't forget to add the appropriate fee.
It should process your second transaction and ignoring the unconfirmed tx one.

Sorry for hearing that... Next time set your fees at higher levels...

1 satoshi fee?
As far as I know, the mini fee is 1000 satoshi.
1 satoshi fee?=no fee at current.

There isn't actually a thing called "minimum fee" but there are "recommended fee". The least amount you could ever use is 0BTC. FYI:  546 satoshis is dust limit and a transaction shouldn't include less that that and using a fee less than 546 satoshi isn't a good idea than using 0 satoshis. I maybe wrong though.

lol 1 satoshi fee. Post the transaction ID here but all you can do is wait and it will either confirm or get sent back to you. It might be worth noting to check the transaction on an alternative block explorer as well because sometimes bc.info can be unreliable or out of synch. You might find it has actually confirmed if you look elsewhere.

Are you too greedy with you fee? Tadam...that's what got you stuck. This transaction will probably never get confirmed but should get back to your wallet in couple days.

If there is no confirmation FOR 10 DAYS they should've already cancelled it.. one with  0 trans feee, they cancelled the transsaction after 5 days :D

Its not possible to "cancel" a transaction. Bc.i could stop broadcasting it, but maybe the recipient has an interest in the transaction verifying. The recipient or anyone else could rebroadcast the transaction constantly in order to ensure that the network does not forget about it. This does not ensure that miners put it in a block to confirm it though.

10 days and still unconfirmed? Since the transaction is irreversible and your transaction might be dropped if it can't be confirmed after a long period.Now you'd better write down the raw transaction of that transaction and re-broadcast it after it have been dropped on blockchain.info.

Re-broadcast: https://blockchain.info/pushtx

Anyway, provide your txid here, it helps a lot.

If you are doing this, use http://www.bitundo.com/. It will give you a GUI which will help you doing the process easily and after signing, you can push it within your wallet because most services reject double spend transaction or post here, someone will help you.

AFAIK, a transaction must have all outputs above 5460 Satoshi to be considered as a non dust and have nodes relay it. If it's below that, nodes would simply not relay it. There are nodes which relays it but for nodes using Bitcoin Core, they don't. It is generally a bad idea to use 0 fees for anything below 0.1BTC since the priority would be so low that it would take a long time to confirm.

You should proably provide the tx id, so we can see how much you sent?

There are times bitcoins can be found for 3hrs at most, but thats the longest I seen. I never seen 10 days though, so not sure unless its a super micro amount?

A some have said a TX id will help us really see whats going on.  I'm guessing fee was too low for transaction to take so long.

If it get's stuck in limbo with this you might need to learn how to double spend with it not moving in 10 days.

Wasn't it changed to 546 satoshis after the commit? https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/commit/6a4c196dd64da2fd33dc7ae77a8cdd3e4cf0eff1


"for nodes using Bitcoin Core, they don't" except ones which uses custom script, right?


AFAIK isn't it 0.01BTC which is considered higher priority with zero fee?

Yes, dust is currently 546 satoshi[1].



The amount alone is not the point. The rule of thumb (aka bitcoin day) is one bitcoin confirmed for 1 day (144 confirmations), thus 0.1 bitcoin would need 10 days and 0.01 100 days or ~ 14400 confirmations to have a high enough priority to be send without fees. Another thing to keep in mind is that no matter how high your priority is, there is only 50KByte in each block reserved for transactions without fee. So there is no 100% safe way to send a transaction without fee. Currently however most transactions pay a fee. I suspect this is due to the changes in bitcoin core (0.10.0) that allow a better estimation of the fee.

https://i.imgur.com/l5eKDE3.png


[1] https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/df5c246ba38c5b5bdd6192b0201d2fe8245451ca/src/primitives/transaction.h#L140

blockchain.info will broadcast your transaction as long as it is not confirmed. if you want to change the fee the easiest way is to wait for about 48 hours till the funds are returned to your wallet, then before bc.i sends it again you can double spend it with fee.

What I don't get is: Why do wallets give you the ability to spend 1 satoshi as a fee or even 0 as a fee? If the transaction is going to get stuck, why not stablish a minimum fee that guarantes this not to happen? coz noobs will always tend to look for free shit, and will always pay no fees and think everything is fine, then shit like OP happens...

Most wallets actually do this. Just dont enable the "advanced" settings unless you know what you are doing.

Fee-less shipping. Nobody want to impose fee. Almost all wallets' default fee is 0.0001/1000 bytes. Don't change it and don't change the mod, like shorena told.

P.S. I think there is a minimum fee but it isn't must:



Thanks, shorena!

In fact I tried to wait it to become removed, but the tx is being re-broadcasted by other nodes to blockchain.info so I can't spend it :(

Read and try to do this:

Seriously? 1 satoshi as miners fee?  :P
What's so hard about sending 10000 satoshis inclusive with the transaction?

Because I just want to save the money (10000 satoshi in a 0.01 BTC transaction is a quite high percentage) in the fees and I had previously done this with no problem (it confirms within a day). But why this time I can't :(

All confirmation process are (maybe) random. So a success before don't mean a success now. Pay the normal fee next time if you don't want it to stuck too long.

I just done a transaction paying just half of the fees (0.00005 BTC and it is confirmed within 15 minutes). Next time you may try this!

when I had a transacted 0.1btc without any fees then it takes me 4days to get 1 conformation.btw it depents on how old are your coins

It depends on miners. Some miners like to include transactions with low or no fees but some only like to include transactions with recommended fees.

The age of coins is only one of the many factors affecting the speed of confirmations (priority). Priority is calculated from the size of your transactions, amount of coin per input and coin age. The higher the priority, the faster it would confirm. Of course, the miner can choose not to include your transaction.

It is seen in many cases that the tx with 0 fee also gets conf but in 2-3 days or cancelled if not get any conf after 3 days.
But your case is exceptionally different cause you paid a fee 1 satoshi i don't think you have do to anything or you can do anything except watching it
i know it will defiantly get the conf and is not going to cancelled at any cost so Wait and Watch.
 ~KP

I had the same error with them a while ago.

The error is because blockchain.info didnt sent the transaction because their servers are crappy. The transaction was most likely ignored and stuck a pending.

Here is how you fix it:
1) Download electrum  https://electrum.org/#home
2) Import the private key of blockchain.info into the electrum wallet
3) Send the transaction with electrum (and put a fee for it 0.0001BTC, to make it fast)
4) Transaction will be send this way.
5) Froget about blockchain.info , their servers are crappy

i think it's also depend on how many transactions there in that time when you send your btc, less transactions mean more high in queue position

Could be the case but not everytime. If 300 transactions have a higher priority than you, those would be included in the block first. If there are 3000 transactions but none of them paid any fees, you would be at the top. And as I said before, miners has the last say.

I sent BTC0.0036 with fee BTC0.00001 and got confirmed in 9 mins. If you pay less fees than BTC0.0001, it's almost ramdom.(tx (https://blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/e5d4e0c51b59532cdc198b86bdc5ea459e7efa58528be55fd09e54bf9563e9ca))

Recently I encountered a situation when my transaction didn't get confirmed for a few blocks, though I had paid a higher-than-normal fee of 20K satoshi. It was a transaction from multiple addresses (over 20, if I remember correctly) to my wallet (from an exchange). I've never seen anything of the kind, and this surprised me a lot...

Why would they not confirm it at once?

With no txid posted I'd say that this may be just trolling for the fun of it.

The transaction, even with such lol fee, should be confirmed already.
The only reason I see for being stuck would be that the amount is under (or exactly!) the dust limit....

With lots of request, I am posting the tx here.
Blockchain.info: https://blockchain.info/tx/5c571741c708e7a19d318887b597b7aec000b572575bf55ae7b4967139495a10 (Latest version is broadcasted on 21/3)
Blocktrail:
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/5c571741c708e7a19d318887b597b7aec000b572575bf55ae7b4967139495a10 (it shows it is on 7/3 and it is 'expired')

The tx is now stuck for 16 days and it is still unconfirmed!

It is now the 22th day that the tx isn't confirmed. How can I import the private key to another service so that I can spend those coins again?

You can import it into the bitcoin-qt however if you don't have it then I don't know other methods... BTW good luck for your coins.

If Bitcoin Core (aka bitcoin-qt) isn't an option for you, e.g. too long to download and sync, consider using a simplified client like Multibit or Electrum. In the blockchain.info wallet, you can go to My Wallet > Import/Export and the choose export (encrypted or unencrypted depends on your personal context and preferences). Then import the private key according to the instructions of your target client.

You can ask for more specific help if you're stuck. By the way, did you try to contact blockchain.info about the issue? It seems unusual that such a transaction keeps being broadcasted over and over again without ever timing out.


Consider consolidating your transactions using multiple outputs (i.e. one payment for multiple persons) if you have many small amounts to transfer and what to save on mining fees.

Do you want to confirm this tx?
OK, I will help you.
This tx will be confirmed in 1-2 hours (I write this message Mar, 29, 20:11 GMT)

upd: 20:37 voila!

And finally it confirmed after 22.5 days of waiting! Thanks all!

Really interesting, it usally just goes into (Expired/Deleted) for such a long delay, but it got confirmed :o

Is this the tx that is getting the longest time to confirm? Any tx have a confirm time longer than this? (Not including the double spend unconfirmed txs)

No.

There is no such statistics, because it is useless.