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Title: What is the point of a "miner" password when participating in mining pools?
Post by: gigabytecoin on May 26, 2011, 10:34:53 AM
I don't know why I have the option to create so many individial "workers/miners" for starters...

When creating an individual worker for a mining pool (like deepbit.net or btcmine.com) I am asked to create a separate password for that miner (so that I can submit shares using my username and password presumably?)

Why would I bother making a difficult to guess password for that miner in particular? Don't I want other people trying to crack my password and mine bitcoins for me through the pool if they so choose?

Why is there a password at all basically is my question?


Title: Re: What is the point of a "miner" password when participating in mining pools?
Post by: eturnerx on May 26, 2011, 10:44:19 AM
I don't know why I have the option to create so many individial "workers/miners" for starters...

When creating an individual worker for a mining pool (like deepbit.net or btcmine.com) I am asked to create a separate password for that miner (so that I can submit shares using my username and password presumably?)

Why would I bother making a difficult to guess password for that miner in particular? Don't I want other people trying to crack my password and mine bitcoins for me through the pool if they so choose?

Why is there a password at all basically is my question?
Creating many workers means that we can track each ones: track record, up/down status individually
Yeah I never really got that separate password deal either... (different for worker and main account).

I guess the password thing dates back to solo-mining via the Bitcoin client in server mode. There's much more that interface to the Bitcoin client exposes that should be protected.


Title: Re: What is the point of a "miner" password when participating in mining pools?
Post by: gigabytecoin on May 26, 2011, 10:55:03 AM
Yes this is what I was thinking too... perhaps just a remnant from the good old solo mining days.

As pools become larger and more profitable for their owners, I am sure these "little things" will be more streamlined.


Title: Re: What is the point of a "miner" password when participating in mining pools?
Post by: Dobrodav on May 26, 2011, 12:47:54 PM
Access to your main password (on site), gives access to your "change adress" options.
Access to passwords of your miners is useless for abuser (unless you put it same as main).
In theory, miners password are more ease to obtain by abuser.

Therefore, you can use the same password for all of your miners, but you should avoid to use that password to access web-interface  of the pool.


Title: Re: What is the point of a "miner" password when participating in mining pools?
Post by: Mononofu on May 26, 2011, 01:43:38 PM
The question was what's the point of having a miner password at all.

Worst case, somebody will mine for you  :D


Title: Re: What is the point of a "miner" password when participating in mining pools?
Post by: Dobrodav on May 26, 2011, 02:18:35 PM
:)
Well, to decrease probability that you will mine on somebody else due to miners name match :P  

Assume: How many miners have name :
1;
2;
deepbeat;
new miner;
etc  ?

But, off curse you right.  Assigning new unique miner names  is done by almost all pools.


Title: Re: What is the point of a "miner" password when participating in mining pools?
Post by: benjamindees on May 26, 2011, 02:58:35 PM
Most pools use some type of scoring system.  So, someone could "mine for you" and just submit bogus results to drive down your score.


Title: Re: What is the point of a "miner" password when participating in mining pools?
Post by: error on May 26, 2011, 08:00:49 PM
At least one pool (Eligius) does not use worker passwords.