in case you missed it

http://8btc.com/thread-35388-1-1.html

This could be a whole franchise!

I think it is by book number, maybe it didn't specify

Also something about a provably fair seed

but either way I think this will be pretty simple

That would be ironic

Maybe I'll put in multiple orders to increase my chances of getting the bar, damn how are you guys doing the group buy going to handle that!

Looks like the book owners are put into a raffle for that Casascius gold bar after the halving, so that's close right?

In for 1

right.

it is foreseeable that alternate cryptos will be a liquid and viable form of acceptance with the proliferation of any cryptocurrency (such as bitcoin)

decentralized exchanges will allow for the point of sale exchange into any crypto

my first thought was the organizations that benefit from protein folding

begin transacting in curecoin

get grants paid in curecoin


this indirectly moves a lot of capital into the curecoin network

thanks

That counter argument has not been demonstrated in any cryptocurrency yet, even in low float cryptos that have very few full units, the infinite divisibility is a feature

fair points but the proper incentive will improve the hash rates for protein folding.

I am here to entertain a cognitive discussion on how to improve incentive, not an abstract "free market, altruism" cop out

they would have to, but why would they

as with all coins, miners are dumping the coin on exchanges, and now we have new protein folders dumping coins

it is not uncommon to see a coin's price fall out of sync with base costs

so I get the concept behind curecoin, but what supports the price ?


some coins have price support by requiring coins to be held for ongoing perks, essentially removing coins from circulation. other coins have other forms of utility


here we have some kind of merge mining protein folding, a somewhat interesting distribution method for coins between cpu/gpu and sha256 asics, but nothing that makes it seem stable

so now altruism has been further thinned out between protein folding AND supporting the currency (so that others can cash out). When I was reading the OP I was looking for that "AHA!" moment to see how the protein folders contribute to the curecoin price, just like how the curecoin financial incentive contributes to more hash rate for the protein folding... to create a feedback loop. But this doesn't exist.

just off the top of my head, maybe to contribute to protein folding cpu/gpu holders need to own X amount of curecoin. In turn they'll get the folding points or whatever as well as more curecoin. Obviously this idea isn't refined, and flawed because cpu/gpu holders are the least likely to be able to have value to exchange for the coin, compared to the expensive ASIC owners.. but the concept is that the extra perk of the coin requires removing some of the coin from circulation, improving scarcity and price and WORTH.

clever

just not clear on why people would hold curecoin

for the previously purely altruistic protein folders, there is only incentive to sell

buying curecoin doesn't support protein folding or scientific research except in a stretch of the imagination that a higher priced curecoin helps donations (more selling)


please explain why this won't be worth 2 satoshis in a month

THE DIFFICULTY INCREASE PROJECTS NEGLECT REALITY


they are projecting average 8% difficulty increases over time. when really 25% increases will be the norm as the ASICs roll out

caveat emptor.  their chart forecasting 8% increases in difficulty is MAYBE based on previous data for scrypt coins, this is because of lack of innovation in GPU mining efficiency. But look at bitcoin's difficulty chart for the past year, average 25% which I think is fair for scrypt asic too as all companies are aiming to roll out scrypt hardware at similar intervals

will zerocoin accumulators be opt-in OR will everyone already be an accumulator?


drkcoin is doing a masternode concept only available to 1000+ drkcoins, those people will act as the mixers, and they get paid similar to miners

Can we just start calling it ANC  like "ankh" (an egyptian glyph)

amateur hour

I feel like this is intentionally dense.

The I2P just keeps your actual IP address out of the node pool when you have any kind of wallet software running.   It helps anonymity but that isn't where the real utility is

Anoncoin

There is a lot of misinformation and confusion going on about zerocoin and zerocash. Just like when media was dismissing bitcoin without even looking at it but now gives it the time of day, anoncoin's zerocoin implementation will have misinformation subside too.

Anoncoin's zerocoin accumulators do not slow things down, do not bloat the blockchain, are not hindered by the number of cores in a CPU, and does not need any trusted party/seed to get started. The I2P implementation doesn't reveal when you are acting as a node. The developers are actively working on it and committing to github and can be found on the i2p darknet #anoncoin irc channel

Gn0sis and Meeh, the Anoncoin developers have investors. They are working on Anoncoin full time, not relying on price pumps and some premine shit. The investors have been around since November 2013 or so, so this should be a counterpoint to Anoncoin's age, as Anoncoin is older.

I think there will be great utility in coins utilizing these technologies, and I hold darkcoin because darksend is a solution UNTIL anoncoin comes out.

Also anoncoin has a LOW NUMBER OF COIN UNITs, 4 million with a mere 850,000 mined and 5 anc/block. Probably the lowest of all cryptocurrencies. As a speculative trade, a single anoncoin unit will be worth a lot more than all other cryptocurrencies. This is just icing on the cake. Anoncoin currently has a marketcap of $1million dollars. A $4 million market cap is a 400% return, a 10 million market cap is a 1000% return, DOGECOIN's 42 million market cap would represent a 4200% return, and LITECOIN's market cap of 336 million would represent a 33,600% return on investment. $1,000 invested at today's prices would be $336,000 in the latter scenario. ( lost count please recheck the math)

Regardless if my decimal places and commas are in the right places, this supports my current position in Anoncoin as I view it as undervalued, and increasing my holdings at its all time lows as zerocoin implementation grows near.

Nobody knows what zerocash is yet. Not even the anoncoin developers. zerocash is different from zerocoin

My opinion on Darkcoin+Darksend is that it doesn't hold a candle to Anoncoin+Zerocoin in the pursuit of anonymity. In this regard I consider darksend to be inferior. I consider what is known about zerocash to be inferior. I have done a lot of research to find information that is not published well with the intent of making coin purchases before the market catches on.

With zerocoin, balances in the blockchain are not published. There is no pseudonymity, SHIT JUST DISAPPEARS plus you get different coins back.

In the deepweb, the next darknet site will have multisig and funds will be disappearing from address and reappearing in other addresses. Even if you want to buy clothes (instead of something illegal) from the next darknet site, would you be more comfortable with darksend *obfuscating* your transactions hoping that nobody puts it together, or will you be comfortable with a zerocoin blockchain that simply doesn't show what address balances or inputs/outputs are.

the utility is with Anoncoin+zerocoin implementation.

Make something to streamline political donations

anybody that believes in anything will find utility in this, since popular opinion can turn against you in coming years, or a government may become vilified in the future, a bigger risk if you do any international backing

A long long long list of private citizens and companies that became part of a witch hunt after one of those events happened

@gostrol  again we appreciate your initiative though so let us know if you are interested in doing more designs with our input

omg premine stigma oh noes.  darkcoin is implementing anonymity technologies with somewhat active development, and people will find utility in that until something with more utility comes out