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1  Economy / Reputation / Re: JollyGood constantly spam with the same messages on: December 01, 2018, 06:15:00 PM
Several? If I counted correctly, 380 out of 1010 posts are quote pyramids. That is nearly 40%.

ok ok, no problem Wink


hmm... I don't understand what do you mean "What does it say in comment?"

Have you been sitting on your ears? Report them to moderator. This isn't my problem.

These are your problems too! if you are so honest and follow the behavior on the forum, then you must pay attention to it too!
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ADAB - First Islamic Crypto Exchange, based on the Shariah norms on: December 01, 2018, 08:14:19 AM
Any news on upcoming meet ups? Have your founders even visit event in Arab Emirates?
I saw one guy claiming here that they are afraid of of doing that


Yes, our founders and co-founders are in the United Arab Emirates. We attend business meetings and conferences where we are invited.
And our "roadshow" continues.


Will you make a video report of these events? Not only articles.


You can read about our "roadshow" in the medium.
Soon we will complement this section.


3  Economy / Reputation / Re: JollyGood constantly spam with the same messages on: November 30, 2018, 07:32:13 PM
I couldn't agree more. Spammers are everywhere, situation become worst with all these ICO bump services bumping various announcement threads and creating fake buzz writing positive comments, asking the same questions over and over again and paraphrasing each others posts.

Yes, but I do not provide such services. Let's write to moderators! Let them check IP and places of connection! And you will see that my connection place is permanent and different from all those people.
Well, why am I a spammer?) Yes, I made several pyramids, but it was in a hurry. but your business. You can give him a red trust in the same way. If he writes the same posts, he must delete the old ones. he doesn't even do that.


I just leave it here. haha, Grin merit abusers?




Thanks for taking screenshots of posts which are above this post. Can you please edit your post because screenshots are not in correct chronological order, they should be posted like this:




do not take seriously. This is a joke with irony.
I just didn't find another explanation. you protect him and don't give him red trust for a more serious violation, but you punished me Smiley
4  Economy / Reputation / Re: JollyGood constantly spam with the same messages on: November 30, 2018, 01:49:03 PM
~snip~

haha, you so funny. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy You got me red trust for pyramids... haha... but your best friend pathetic spammer JollyGood continues to spam the same messages in a circle. haha. really funny situation. Grin

but now I don't care about your opinion and him.

If you are as blind as your friend and you don't see the real facts.

He writes that the project scam. Cheesy We told him a million times against his arguments. But no one pays attention.
This forum has been very spoiled in recent years. There are such moderators as you - irresponsible friends of the nuts and Such paid puppet like your best friend.

I just leave it here. haha, Grin merit abusers?


5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ADAB - First Islamic Crypto Exchange, based on the Shariah norms on: November 30, 2018, 12:11:58 PM
The representative of the team Adab regularly reviews posts in the topic answers user questions. Although the forum has such branches, where teams, because of their employment, give answers very rarely.
yes, all of them post news at least 2 times per week,something like that and i encourage them to give us more answers about their activity,problem solving etc



Thank you for your advice.
We will write more often about our team.


6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ADAB - First Islamic Crypto Exchange, based on the Shariah norms on: November 30, 2018, 10:05:51 AM
Any news on upcoming meet ups? Have your founders even visit event in Arab Emirates?
I saw one guy claiming here that they are afraid of of doing that


Yes, our founders and co-founders are in the United Arab Emirates. We attend business meetings and conferences where we are invited.
And our "roadshow" continues.

7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ADAB - First Islamic Crypto Exchange, based on the Shariah norms on: November 30, 2018, 08:51:08 AM
I heard the Kazakh trio owners of Adab Haraam exchange will be arrested if they visit UAE. Is that true?
it is bullshit, they communicate with UAE investors, visit events and in UAE there is target audience, so what are you talking about?


This is an open forum. Anyone can write here. Let's appreciate and respect each other.
Dear
Quote from: JollyGood
please respect our work.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ADAB - First Islamic Crypto Exchange, based on the Shariah norms on: November 30, 2018, 08:22:49 AM
Guys, any ideas on prolong tokensale? Everything is going according to plan, right? I am asking because ICOs have tendency to shift dates during bloodbath.

That's true. Several projects have recently extended the timing of pre-sale tokens, because the collection of investments is sluggish.


We have reached a soft-cap. The amount set as a soft cap was $2.5 mln, and reaching that amount represents the beliefs of investors in the successful future of the digital product. We have raised $3.5 million so far and we are not stopping there.
We have been working hard to hit the numbers, and we would never be able to do that without a tremendous support we got from our community


9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ADAB - First Islamic Crypto Exchange, based on the Shariah norms on: November 30, 2018, 08:19:58 AM
Guys, any ideas on prolong tokensale? Everything is going according to plan, right? I am asking because ICOs have tendency to shift dates during bloodbath.

That's true. Several projects have recently extended the timing of pre-sale tokens, because the collection of investments is sluggish.
What is worse, investors just freeze their money and bounty participants work more for the same price, it is not for me.


We are extending the pre-sale stage, it will not affect the steps indicated in the roadmap, except the crowdsale.




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10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ADAB - First Islamic Crypto Exchange, based on the Shariah norms on: November 29, 2018, 08:37:18 AM


I recommend to anyone who doubts the project to watch this video.

For those who do not know: Mufti is the highest spiritual figure among Muslims. Giving the right to make decisions on religious and legal issues, to give explanations on the application of Shariah.
VIDEO MESSAGE from Mufti Faraz Adam:




If it is hard to perceive by ear, then I have an approximate text. You can read:

Shariah Pronouncement – Adab Token
By Mufti Faraz Adam and Mufti Muhammad Abu Bakar


Adab Token is a Utility Token which is based on the ERC20 standard and is subject to automatic executing upon the occurrence of pre-specified conditions. It is structured and based on the following criterion of Shariah and Islamic law.

There are various types of crypto-assets such as coins, equity tokens, utility tokens, commodity tokens etc. The Shariah treatment varies depending on the nature and features of the particular crypto-asset. Since the Adab token is regarded as a utility token, our review focuses on utility tokens. Before delving on the particulars of the Adab token as a utility token, it is imperative to appreciate that tokens qualify as lawful property from an
Islamic commercial law perspective.

There is a difference of opinion among scholars with regard to the definition of Mal (wealth / property). This is primarily due to the Holy Qur’an and the Sunnah of the Prophet (peace be upon him) being silent on the matter. Hence, as per the dictates of Islamic law, Urf or customary practice is considered an important source in determining something as Mal. Scholar have opined that anything which has the following attributes can be considered as Mal:
a) It has commercial value according to customary practice or naturally desirable,
b) It is capable of being stored for the time of necessity,
c) It is capable of being possessed and owned.

In order to use something as Mal, it is also necessary after fulfilling this basic criterion that it should be Mutaqawwim. Mutaqawwim refers to something which is lawful in Shariah and has permissible uses. For instance, alcohol fulfills the basic criterion of Mal, but it is not classified as Mutaqawwim as it is not permissible according to Islamic law.

Taking into consideration this criteria of Mal Mutaqawwim, we are of the view that the Adab token fulfills this criteria. The Adab token has commercial value as each token is backed by permissible services and products offered on Islamic Cryptocurrency Exchange. Further, these tokens can be possessed through digital wallets. The Adab token is Mutaqawwim as it provides access to only Shariah complaint
services and products.

Since the Adab token is a utility token, it is of benefitto discuss utility tokens. Utility tokens are crypto-assets which derive their value from future utility. Such tokens are commonly used to raise funds for a particular project. The tokens promise certain benefits, services or rights to token holders. The Adab token functions as a utility token. It will be issued through an ICO to raise funds for the development and scaling of the Islamic Crypto Exchange. The token will be the property of its owner (token-holder) and hence token holders will be entitled to get access to the products and services of the Islamic Crypto Exchange.

Underlying Platform:

The Adab tokens give access to permissible services and products on Islamic Cryptocurrency Exchange (FICE). The proposed structure of Islamic Cryptocurrency Exchange does not allow any Shariah non-compliant securities to be traded such as conventional bonds, derivatives etc. Likewise, any Shariah non-compliant investment strategy or contract such as short-selling, margin trading and roll-over etc are also strictly profited on the platform. To ensure Shariah compliance of each facility on Adab FICE, there will be an ongoing review and audit of Adab by Shariah Supervisory Board in conjunction with the Internal Shariah Compliance Officer, Mufti Faraz Adam.

To best of our knowledge on the basis of above justification, we are of the view that participation in Adab ICO and its secondary trading is permissible.

Allah (swt) knows best.

Mufti Faraz Adam and Mufti Muhammad Abu Bakar

Shariah Advisors at Adab Solutions
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ADAB - First Islamic Crypto Exchange, based on the Shariah norms on: November 28, 2018, 02:23:34 PM
Hello friends!

We want to post answers to frequently asked questions.

- When can we show a smart contract?

The smart contract address will be published during the crowdsale. Since it will begin public sales. Now we don't have the right to show a smart contract and any evidence.  Now there is a stage "private sale." At this stage, the amount of funds raised is not disclosed and facts are not shown. We did so stupid because we told you that we collected soft cap. Because of this, as you see, we have small problems, but everything will be fine.


- Evidence that we have already collected soft cap. Any documents, contracts or something else like that.

We do not have the right to show the collected soft cap at this stage. all funds were received during private sale and most of the funds were received in the form of fiat funds. Private sale is called "PRIVATE" because it is NOT public sales and NOT public information. Most of the funds were received from private investors. All projects that have a PRIVATE SALE stage DON'T show a smart contract and other evidence during this stage! We are not alone! We are not the first and We are not the last to do it! Don't confuse "PRIVATE SALE" with "PRESALE".

- Regarding each team member who is represented on the site. What religion do we follow?  And whether this or that person has any qualification in the field of Islamic finance.

All three Kazakh members (Rustam Turzhan, Timur Turzhan and Maxat Salpyn) are Muslims and belong to Hanafi (Sunni) school of thoughts as the majority of Kazakh people.

As for the Shariah Advisory Board of FICE, I would like to mention that the Islamic finance industry is heavily dependent on religious scholars for validation of its products and services. Each Islamic financial institution has a Shariah board to validate its operation. The scholars in our Shariah Board will represent different schools of thought within the Sunni sect of Islam. Sunnis are in majority and they follow one of the four schools of thought of Sunny Islam. The differences among them are very minor. Furthermore, a scholar who may otherwise belong to a particular school of though does refer to the opinion of the past or present scholars of a different school of thought in making a decision on the validity of a product or service.

Most of the team are Muslim by religion and adhere to the Sunni trend.
Confirmation is the recognition that there is no God except Allah and Muhammad is his prophet! Maxat Salpyn, Mufti Faraz Adam and Mufti Abu Bakar have qualifications in the field of Islamic finance.


- Concerning the beta version. When will the beta version of the exchange?

The dev team is working hard to create an exchange.
In the current version is ready the main engine exchange. You can check the correctness of his work yourself by sending different orders. You can check the correctness of the order match book, balance tests and market indicators. All this is our original design. At this stage, we are working hard on interaction protocols, system scaling, implementation of business logic of all orders to be launched, deployment of infrastructure blockchain, security and new design, technical analysis elements. I hope you will appreciate our achievements in these areas soon. We will try to update our system more often. Beta version will be ready by February.


- Concerning the MVP. @JollyGood writes that the MVP is a plugin bought for $ 20. What can we answer?

The answer will be short. This is our own development. Honestly, we don't know how to prove it. But this is not a purchased plugin. If you have any idea how to prove it, then suggest us.


- some arguments or evidence that this exchange and this token are halal and comply with Shariah law.

Mufti Faraz Adam issued a conclusion that the ICO and ADAB token comply with the principles of Islamic finance, based on Shariah law. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4720775.msg48182957#msg48182957

The work of the exchange will be based on procedures developed by the internal Shariah Department and approved by the Shariah Council.


Hello guys. We want to suggest you to read this F.A.Q.

with best regards
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ADAB - First Islamic Crypto Exchange, based on the Shariah norms on: November 28, 2018, 02:20:38 PM


hello guys. Look. We redesigned our ANN thread Smiley
13  Economy / Reputation / Re: JollyGood constantly spam with the same messages on: November 27, 2018, 12:49:08 PM
Thanks for info. I hope he will be banned soon. That bulling around all forum must be stopped.

Come on,  guys, we're  dealing with a crook of  forum-scale here.

Hello friends. @JollyGood is a clown and probably a paid puppet.

This person know nothing about the projects and only writes the same negative messages. I don't know why the moderators still have not banned him. Let's help them pay attention to this inadequate. Just click "Report to moderator" on his posts.
14  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAM ALERT!! ADAB EXCHANGE - So Called Islamic Crypto Exchange is Haraam on: November 27, 2018, 12:43:01 PM
VIDEO MESSAGE from Mufti Faraz Adam:



If it is hard to perceive by ear, then I have an approximate text. You can read:

Shariah Pronouncement – Adab Token
By Mufti Faraz Adam and Mufti Muhammad Abu Bakar


Adab Token is a Utility Token which is based on the ERC20 standard and is subject to automatic executing upon the occurrence of pre-specified conditions. It is structured and based on the following criterion of Shariah and Islamic law.

There are various types of crypto-assets such as coins, equity tokens, utility tokens, commodity tokens etc. The Shariah treatment varies depending on the nature and features of the particular crypto-asset. Since the Adab token is regarded as a utility token, our review focuses on utility tokens. Before delving on the particulars of the Adab token as a utility token, it is imperative to appreciate that tokens qualify as lawful property from an
Islamic commercial law perspective.

There is a difference of opinion among scholars with regard to the definition of Mal (wealth / property). This is primarily due to the Holy Qur’an and the Sunnah of the Prophet (peace be upon him) being silent on the matter. Hence, as per the dictates of Islamic law, Urf or customary practice is considered an important source in determining something as Mal. Scholar have opined that anything which has the following attributes can be considered as Mal:
a) It has commercial value according to customary practice or naturally desirable,
b) It is capable of being stored for the time of necessity,
c) It is capable of being possessed and owned.

In order to use something as Mal, it is also necessary after fulfilling this basic criterion that it should be Mutaqawwim. Mutaqawwim refers to something which is lawful in Shariah and has permissible uses. For instance, alcohol fulfills the basic criterion of Mal, but it is not classified as Mutaqawwim as it is not permissible according to Islamic law.

Taking into consideration this criteria of Mal Mutaqawwim, we are of the view that the Adab token fulfills this criteria. The Adab token has commercial value as each token is backed by permissible services and products offered on Islamic Cryptocurrency Exchange. Further, these tokens can be possessed through digital wallets. The Adab token is Mutaqawwim as it provides access to only Shariah complaint
services and products.

Since the Adab token is a utility token, it is of benefitto discuss utility tokens. Utility tokens are crypto-assets which derive their value from future utility. Such tokens are commonly used to raise funds for a particular project. The tokens promise certain benefits, services or rights to token holders. The Adab token functions as a utility token. It will be issued through an ICO to raise funds for the development and scaling of the Islamic Crypto Exchange. The token will be the property of its owner (token-holder) and hence token holders will be entitled to get access to the products and services of the Islamic Crypto Exchange.

Underlying Platform:

The Adab tokens give access to permissible services and products on Islamic Cryptocurrency Exchange (FICE). The proposed structure of Islamic Cryptocurrency Exchange does not allow any Shariah non-compliant securities to be traded such as conventional bonds, derivatives etc. Likewise, any Shariah non-compliant investment strategy or contract such as short-selling, margin trading and roll-over etc are also strictly profited on the platform. To ensure Shariah compliance of each facility on Adab FICE, there will be an ongoing review and audit of Adab by Shariah Supervisory Board in conjunction with the Internal Shariah Compliance Officer, Mufti Faraz Adam.

To best of our knowledge on the basis of above justification, we are of the view that participation in Adab ICO and its secondary trading is permissible.

Allah (swt) knows best.

Mufti Faraz Adam and Mufti Muhammad Abu Bakar

Shariah Advisors at Adab Solutions
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ADAB - First Islamic Crypto Exchange, based on the Shariah norms on: November 27, 2018, 11:13:25 AM
Hello friends!

We want to post answers to frequently asked questions.

- When can we show a smart contract?

The smart contract address will be published during the crowdsale. Since it will begin public sales. Now we don't have the right to show a smart contract and any evidence.  Now there is a stage "private sale." At this stage, the amount of funds raised is not disclosed and facts are not shown. We did so stupid because we told you that we collected soft cap. Because of this, as you see, we have small problems, but everything will be fine.


- Evidence that we have already collected soft cap. Any documents, contracts or something else like that.

We do not have the right to show the collected soft cap at this stage. all funds were received during private sale and most of the funds were received in the form of fiat funds. Private sale is called "PRIVATE" because it is NOT public sales and NOT public information. Most of the funds were received from private investors. All projects that have a PRIVATE SALE stage DON'T show a smart contract and other evidence during this stage! We are not alone! We are not the first and We are not the last to do it! Don't confuse "PRIVATE SALE" with "PRESALE".

- Regarding each team member who is represented on the site. What religion do we follow?  And whether this or that person has any qualification in the field of Islamic finance.

All three Kazakh members (Rustam Turzhan, Timur Turzhan and Maxat Salpyn) are Muslims and belong to Hanafi (Sunni) school of thoughts as the majority of Kazakh people.

As for the Shariah Advisory Board of FICE, I would like to mention that the Islamic finance industry is heavily dependent on religious scholars for validation of its products and services. Each Islamic financial institution has a Shariah board to validate its operation. The scholars in our Shariah Board will represent different schools of thought within the Sunni sect of Islam. Sunnis are in majority and they follow one of the four schools of thought of Sunny Islam. The differences among them are very minor. Furthermore, a scholar who may otherwise belong to a particular school of though does refer to the opinion of the past or present scholars of a different school of thought in making a decision on the validity of a product or service.

Most of the team are Muslim by religion and adhere to the Sunni trend.
Confirmation is the recognition that there is no God except Allah and Muhammad is his prophet! Maxat Salpyn, Mufti Faraz Adam and Mufti Abu Bakar have qualifications in the field of Islamic finance.


- Concerning the beta version. When will the beta version of the exchange?

The dev team is working hard to create an exchange.
In the current version is ready the main engine exchange. You can check the correctness of his work yourself by sending different orders. You can check the correctness of the order match book, balance tests and market indicators. All this is our original design. At this stage, we are working hard on interaction protocols, system scaling, implementation of business logic of all orders to be launched, deployment of infrastructure blockchain, security and new design, technical analysis elements. I hope you will appreciate our achievements in these areas soon. We will try to update our system more often. Beta version will be ready by February.


- Concerning the MVP. @JollyGood writes that the MVP is a plugin bought for $ 20. What can we answer?

The answer will be short. This is our own development. Honestly, we don't know how to prove it. But this is not a purchased plugin. If you have any idea how to prove it, then suggest us.


- some arguments or evidence that this exchange and this token are halal and comply with Shariah law.

Mufti Faraz Adam issued a conclusion that the ICO and ADAB token comply with the principles of Islamic finance, based on Shariah law. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4720775.msg48182957#msg48182957

The work of the exchange will be based on procedures developed by the internal Shariah Department and approved by the Shariah Council.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ADAB - First Islamic Crypto Exchange, based on the Shariah norms on: November 27, 2018, 10:33:03 AM
Hello friends. I want to inform you that @JollyGood is a clown and probably a paid puppet.

I told him 3 times and denied his statements, but he doesn't respond!

1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4720775.msg48223449#msg48223449
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4720775.msg48215153#msg48215153
3. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4720775.msg48182957#msg48182957

So make a conclusion. This person know nothing about the project and only writes the same negative messages. I don't know why the moderators still have not banned him. Let's help them pay attention to this inadequate. Just click "Report to moderator" on his posts.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ADAB - First Islamic Crypto Exchange, based on the Shariah norms on: November 26, 2018, 10:42:26 AM
I've seen this guy writing the same negative post in some ann , I don't what motivates him, probably he wants money to stop his activity. May be he is a blackmailer

yes, probably you are right
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ADAB - First Islamic Crypto Exchange, based on the Shariah norms on: November 26, 2018, 09:07:42 AM
"1.8 Billon people are Muslims", "What is the prupose of this ico"... Your bank doesn't seem to care about typos.

hello. tell me please where did you find these typos? We'll correct it as soon as possible.
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ADAB - First Islamic Crypto Exchange, based on the Shariah norms on: November 25, 2018, 06:49:44 PM


Especially for you once again duplicate this link! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4720775.msg48182957#msg48182957
Take a look and read! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4720775.msg48182957#msg48182957
Or the words of the Mufti mean nothing to you??? Mufti is SCAMMER??? May Alah punish you!
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ADAB - First Islamic Crypto Exchange, based on the Shariah norms on: November 25, 2018, 02:05:53 PM






They use a cheap $5 websote template from the year 1998 and have added freebie tradingview.com plugins  Grin

This is our own development! This is not a purchased plugin!
How can we prove it?
And on the other hand, How can you prove that this is a purchased plugin?




The trio from Kazakhstan but living in Uzbekistan do not follow Shariah.

They are happy to accept ICO funding from the following so how can they comply with Shariah?

Especially for you once again duplicate this link! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4720775.msg48182957#msg48182957
Take a look and read! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4720775.msg48182957#msg48182957
Or the words of the Mufti mean nothing to you??? Mufti SCAMMER??? May Alah punish you!
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