Testnet forked without issues so the fork's block height on the main net is firm.You can start updating your pools immediately by cloning and installing the updated sumokoin pool repo https://github.com/sumoprojects/cryptonote-sumokoin-poolAfter installation the pool will automatically switch to cryptonight-heavy when the first compatible block is found. You don't need to manually update pool software when Sumokoin hardfork occurs git clone https://github.com/sumoprojects/cryptonote-sumokoin-pool.git pool cd pool rm -r node_modules npm update For miners: You can use the new xmr-stak to mine (you can download it from here https://github.com/fireice-uk/xmr-stak/releases) It doesnot have a config file like the older version it autogenerates one through a series of queries on the first run. Choose Sumokoin when asked, xmr-stak will mine the standard cryptonight and auto switch mining cryptonight-heavy upon the fork
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Does this update happen to include the cold/offline signing GUI wallet feature as indicated by any chance?
No cause you ve asked for it. If it wasnt for you we would have done it |
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Fork Block Height set at 117600 (on abt April 4th). Binaries will be released soon. Following the fork the light Qt GUI wallet will be released featuring remote node connection ability (it is ready for release). Web wallet is expected to be released soon as well.
Do the pool owners need to change something in the pool itself? Yes pool admins should update their pools. Instructions will be provided incase you are unable to update your pool |
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Fork Block Height set at 117600 (on abt April 4th). Binaries will be released soon. Following the fork the light Qt GUI wallet will be released featuring remote node connection ability (it is ready for release). Web wallet is expected to be released soon as well.
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@sumogr I gave your text a little makeover. Red seems to aggressive for such a nice announcement.
Cryptonight-heavy, Sumokoin's asic resistant algo is finalised and under testing.Feel free to test/report and produce patches for miners other than xmr-stak. Feedback would be much appreciated. Exact fork block height and writeup will follow soon. https://github.com/curie-kief/pow_testWhy exactly is this new code supposed to be asic resistant? Large memory consumption? Longer aes keys? Much higher number of hash loops? I would really like to get some detailed info from crypto perspective and not just short announcement. Cheers! There will be a complete writeup on github describing everything in detail |
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Cryptonight-heavy, Sumokoin's asic resistant algo is finalised and under testing.
Feel free to test/report and produce patches for miners other than xmr-stak.
Feedback would be much appreciated.
Exact fork block height and writeup will follow soonhttps://github.com/curie-kief/pow_test
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UPDATES ON THE UPCOMING FORKSome updates on the upcoming pow change fork: Its not a minor tweak on cryptonight, its an effort to create a modified asic resistant cryptonight pow without having to fork periodically. We believe that this has been accomplished. The fork's exact blockheight has not been decided yet but it will be within the next couple of weeks as the code must first be thoroughly checked. Base code for the pow change has already been merged on github https://github.com/sumoprojects/sumokoin/pull/95. A full, comprehensive,writeup explaining the changes implemented will be posted on github before the fork. There is a change on cpu/gpu produced hashrate ratio benchmarks in favor of GPUs, this is a result of the tweak which might eventually prove useful in limiting botnet mining on our network. GPU code is almost finished and being tested while a patched xmr-stak for sumo mining with the new algo will be released, by stak's developers, before the fork. Users need not withdraw their coins from the exchanges. For coins stored on local wallets, users will have to download the updated binaries and/or the updated gui wallet and restore their wallet. Finally the light/multisig wallet release might delay a few days (it was expected by the end of March) due to this fork. Thank you!
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Hmmm...a long-winded elaborate post (tl;dr BTW) by a newbie with two prior posts who's trying to convince us that she/he is a critic-turned-convert of this circus/religion. I can smell a shit...I mean a shill any ol' time.
Us two are very much alike deep down. you know that, dont you? |
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Yeah I am an asshole what can i say...  |
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Mad Jester was very helpful. Now it's working everything fine, we also find some errors and there are few new PR on Github to make the plugin even better. Now you can use SUMO for buying bios or PBE https://mining-bios.eu/ also I've set 10% discount. (There is bug, if you make order, wait for refresh it will show the right price with 10% discount, after that copy the amount, it's already in PR and will be fixed soon.) Glad everything worked out, and that Sumo now has a store where people can spend Sumo  I was looking for sign Sumokoin is accepted here, but there is none :/ I have to make my own any way it looks terrible where each and everyone is different BTW it uses subaddresses  https://i.imgur.com/JAB5FFW.jpgThere's your sign  https://www.dropbox.com/s/jc1it6702417bzi/button.png?dl=0 |
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Does anybody using SUMO as Woocommerce payment gateway? https://github.com/sumoprojects/sumowoocommerceI'm thinking about adding XMR and SUMO to my bios shop, any experience? I use Cryptowoo and it's working great, the guy behind it want to add Monero in sometime, he gives really great support also, but it will take probably longer, so I'm thinking about other posibilities. I also use other payment gateway for ETH and tokens, but it's not so great since it cannot create new wallet for every payment. I guess subadresses aren't working with the SUMO plugin, aren't it? :/ Thx. Subaddress do work with the sumo woo plugin Yes, today I've tried it and subaddresess are there, but I have troubles with RPC connection I don't run it on same server and I'm unable to access it remotely. It might be just some problem with Windows and open port it seems to work localy... So for now I've only manage to use MoneroWP and it's working great, I had some troubles with Cryptowoo it, but deleting some stuff from MoneroWP do the job Only the whole order page refreshing waiting for transaction is terrible, but it's workings Edit: Is there some API for SUMO to see transaction with viewkey? Like this https://xmrchain.net/api/outputs?txhash=Open an issue on git or find @Madjesta on telegram I am sure he can help you set it up |
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Does anybody using SUMO as Woocommerce payment gateway? https://github.com/sumoprojects/sumowoocommerceI'm thinking about adding XMR and SUMO to my bios shop, any experience? I use Cryptowoo and it's working great, the guy behind it want to add Monero in sometime, he gives really great support also, but it will take probably longer, so I'm thinking about other posibilities. I also use other payment gateway for ETH and tokens, but it's not so great since it cannot create new wallet for every payment. I guess subadresses aren't working with the SUMO plugin, aren't it? :/ Thx. Subaddress do work with the sumo woo plugin |
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So, there wont be an open discussion about embrace or not ASIC's by community?
So you think we should embrace ASICs? Give me a good reason and I ll give you ten bad ones |
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Good to see that a reaction is given so fast. I think a lot of people, including me, was unsure about the future of mining Sumo with GPU's We are working on our own tweak as well, aim is to make the algo completely asic resistant (there is a interesting approach on that which we are attempting) and change the gpu to cpu ratio in favor of gpus (to mitigate botnet's impression on the network's hashrate). If we are overrun we fork asap on Monero's tweak (thank you guys by the way, what misled us is the fact each asic manufacturer was using his entire production of asics to harvest. Thus their hashrate had botnet-like behavior on the network) and apply ours on a later date. So everything's good I guess Thank you all for the interest! |
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Wow, the hashrate is 91.83 MH/s at this very moment, that is insane, given the current SUMO price...
I think we'll soon see some dumps. Nicehash gotta pay its electricity bills, right?!
Nope it was a sudden jump of 60 MH/s which can be only a huge botnet trying its luck. As you can see the diff spiked immediately due to our responsive diff algo and there is a delay of the current block which means that the botnet is out already. Within the next couple of blocks hashrate will dramaticaly drop. They ve just managed to mine 1 or 2 blocks and they departed |
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ASICs for cryptonight were recently announced. How is the Sumo team going to address this issue?
This ASIC (if a 60Watt ASIC really exists) has an output of 20 kH/s. Now bear with me Sumokoin has a global hashrate at the moment of 20 MH/s while its peak was 60 MH/s. Lets use an average of 40 MH/s In order just to double the average total network hashrate of Sumokoin, which is 40,000kH/s, it would take 2,000 ASICs mining Sumokoin only.Each ASIC costs 3600$, which means that people will have to spend 7.2 million dollars to buy ASICs and mine only Sumokoin with them This is 2.3 times more money than the entire Sumokoin current marketcapNow lets talk about Monero, Monero's average total hashrate is 1 GH/s https://www.coinwarz.com/network-hashrate-charts/monero-network-hashrate-chartIn order just to double the average total network hashrate of Monero which is 1,000,000kH/s it would take 50,000 ASICs mining Monero only.Each ASIC costs 3600$ which means that people will have to spend 180 million dollars to buy ASICs and mine only Monero with them. Baikal must produce and sell hundreds upon hundreds of thousand asics for them to have any actual effect on any coin IMHO it would be irresponsible to risk the integrity of the coin for an insufficiently proven threat. EDIT: If an ASIC with an output so large that can potentially affect our network's total hashrate is produced in the future then we will start considering a solution, but that's a hypothetical issue, not a real current one, so we wish to remain focused on improving our coin cryptographically atm. There is not a 60w ASIC, this is a scam, does anyone else see this? Who is selling, will just keep the money and then run away, this world of crypto-coins there are many scams. In the picture they use a basic laptop power supply (usually delivery up to 120w) The multiple connector is probably because they have 3 ASIC motherboard in the ASIC itself so each card will consume 20w (seems low but we are talking ASIC here and the calculation is actualy quite simple) We shall soon find out |
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ASICs for cryptonight were recently announced. How is the Sumo team going to address this issue?
This ASIC (if a 60Watt ASIC really exists) has an output of 20 kH/s. Now bear with me Sumokoin has a global hashrate at the moment of 20 MH/s while its peak was 60 MH/s. Lets use an average of 40 MH/s In order just to double the average total network hashrate of Sumokoin, which is 40,000kH/s, it would take 2,000 ASICs mining Sumokoin only.Each ASIC costs 3600$, which means that people will have to spend 7.2 million dollars to buy ASICs and mine only Sumokoin with them This is 2.3 times more money than the entire Sumokoin current marketcapNow lets talk about Monero, Monero's average total hashrate is 1 GH/s https://www.coinwarz.com/network-hashrate-charts/monero-network-hashrate-chartIn order just to double the average total network hashrate of Monero which is 1,000,000kH/s it would take 50,000 ASICs mining Monero only.Each ASIC costs 3600$ which means that people will have to spend 180 million dollars to buy ASICs and mine only Monero with them. Baikal must produce and sell hundreds upon hundreds of thousand asics for them to have any actual effect on any coin IMHO it would be irresponsible to risk the integrity of the coin for an insufficiently proven threat. EDIT: If an ASIC with an output so large that can potentially affect our network's total hashrate is produced in the future then we will start considering a solution, but that's a hypothetical issue, not a real current one, so we wish to remain focused on improving our coin cryptographically atm. |
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Simply saying, "we are not much different from Monero but we have plans and features in the pipeline that will definitely make a difference", would probably have helped eliminate the very FUD, folks
are so worried about. And there is ample evidence that many people are worried about the 10% premine.
Transparency helps to convince people. But again... just my 50 cents on the topic.
"we are not much different from Monero but we have" this has been done in this very ANN lots of times. Anyway, at least a few xmr fans try to twist facts and spread fud. Especially visdude has his issues, if you read all his replies in this ann you will see I don't get why people are upset about the premine. Devs handeled it very transparently. The premine is mentioned on the first page and Sumoshi made a blog post about it on our medium blog. If one does not agree with the premine there is a simple solution: to move on. I don't get why this is made an issue again and again. @GerMining First of all, you are one of the more helpful community members. If I remember correctly you asked me to address my questions in the telegram group. Except for insults from a certain member of Sumokoin, I didn't get any answers. However, I guess many folks are worried that they mine/buy Sumokoin and devs will dump loads of coins when the time comes or when the price is reasonably high. A simple reassurance that no mass dumping on part of the dev team will occur could help. Information on how and when the premine will be spent will at least be seen as an attempt to reassure people that this crypto currency is founded on solid principles. Almost anybody making money trading crypto will advise you to look at factors like, 1. Who is the team? 2. Does the dev team have any development background (in other words: are they qualified to implement a given roadmap)? 3. What makes this coin so different from others? As I mentioned in an earlier post, some in-depth information answering these questions will generally be useful for potential investors (and/or miners). Anonymity and showing potential yet inquisitive people the finger certainly won't help. Even currencies like GRAFT or ETN handle this aspect of PR much better. I am the one who "insulted" you and unfortunately I am going to say the same things that you find "insulting" again. 1. The team prefers to stay anonymous (besides two of them that do not hide their real names). The team has grown in numbers (they are more than 4 atm and i dont know if the new members will decide to disclose their real names as well in the future) 2. If they are qualified to implement a given roadmap can be easily checked by the current roadmap and if all milestones were delivered on time. Also if you check the two members, that do not hide their name,s you ll see that their background is quite overqualifying to implement any roadmap, compared to the "developers" of ICO's like ETN that you seem to prefer. 3. Sumokoin strives to be among the top anoncoins around and is on its way into accomplishing that, i am sorry if you cannot discern that from its roadmap or its development so far. Now for the most insulting part, whether you like it or not we dont look for "investors" so you'd better stick with the mentioned ICOs which, like you said, have better PR and tv evangelists (although I ve been accused as being a cheerleader many times, I dont blame the people who accuse me as such cause I indeed sometimes overreact due to my strong belief in the coin). Thank you investor, go trade an ICO with large github commit frequency Lol Now you are getting into kindergarten talk. Not sure why all of that offends you so much. Maybe, there is some truth to it? Keep in mind that big players in crypto also have folks with a Ph.D. in maths and hardcore developers. And although a Ph.D. is certainly not required to deliver a project, I question the thoroughness of developers who don't even manage to adjust the copyright headers and - as a result - have their project taken down (github - very professional!). I have yet to see any feature of sumokoin that is truly unique and impressive. It's all just monero. Maybe, a "real" answer would be better than - and yes, you are doing it again - showing the finger. Btw... Sumogr... You are the one to insult folks for simply asking a few questions about the premine. Very well done... A few facts about SUMOKOIN and the roadmap: * Initial Version of Sumokoin based on Monero, * 10% pre-mine (8.888.888 SUMOs worth a total of 17.824.443 USD - at the time of writing) The community is what drives SUMO and the miners support it with their hashing power. So yes, we DO HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW. Let's look at your "really impressive" roadmap... Roadmap itemsSo as anybody can see...lots of words and not a lot of substance. Not a single feature that wouldn't be available in Monero?! And please spare me with statements like, "It was so hard to adjust the coin name in cryptonote_config.h" or similar. Maybe, you do have python scripting/development skills but you do seem to forget that monero - sorry - sumokoin is written in C++. What is it you have done? Sponsor the infrastructure? Reply to folks on github?? Create the easy miner? Considering all these achievements, you really should treat potential investors and miners a bit better. You should also not talk trash about ETN because if I look at their network and yours, they are ten times bigger (SUMO: 34.32 MHs vs. ETN: 348.45 MHs) and in comparison to you a lot "younger" and a lot more transparent. Actions do speak louder than words.I better go and play with real cryptocurrencies with a solid background (e.g. Monero) now Cheers, Tom PS: If you don't look for investors, maybe you should have your coin delisted on cryptopia, etc. Investors, per definition, are also people buying the coin. Just repeating your words... LOL You have no idea what you are talking about. I read up to the GUI wallet part where you say its a knock off from Monero's GUI while even the language they are coded with is different (Python vs C++). Yeah go to a real cryptocurreny like Monero you have a history of calling everything a scam there. I guess you look yourself in the mirror each morning and shout scam to yourself. Bye investor You just can't stop showing the finger Good luck and please don't scam people... most of them do work hard for their money...unlike some people doing a bit of cut and paste and calling it an anonymous coin. You don't even know what the core of sumokoin is...it's certainly not your hastily put together wallet... That only talks to a monero/sumokoin core component (i.e. wallet rpc, does that ring a bell?). Do I really have to explain "your code" to you? Sumogr... You should really not be in this business... seriously not... You are hurting the coin more than helping it... On your first sentence you are calling the coin a scam and at your last you wish that i wasnt into this business cause i am hurting the coin.... Well enough with this nonsense say what you will LOL...you don't seize to amaze me. I have had more than enough "entertainment" for today. You beat watching "John Oliver". So much talk so little substance. I asked you to not scam people and that was not in my first sentence. I didn't say the coin is a scam... Maybe, try some different glasses. Don't twist facts... Fact is, you had nothing to add...There is no real added value and - yes - it's a bad copy of monero as it's missing the newest features and fixes. See? That's all I wanted to know and you finally managed to satisfy my curiosity. Thanks... @GerMining: Thanks for trying to help initially anyway. It's people like you who can make this coin succeed. How do I scam people? So the coin is not a scam? I was the one who told you that you should NOT invest in it, wasnt i? Make up you mind LOL I haven't laughed so hard in a long time. LOL... we will see what happens after block 140000. @GerMining... just facts dude... Conclusion: * In essence, sumokoin is a copy of monero, missing some of the newest features and hopefully on a good way to implement new ones. * SumoGR assures folks that the premine will be spent for new development efforts and infrastructure. * Monero's Bugfixes and new features are to be integrated into sumokoin. * Sounds like a much better answer I am getting now then before. As I already stated, thanks for finally satisfying my curiosity. Conclusion: * In essence, sumokoin is a copy of monero, missing some of the newest features and hopefully on a good way to implement new ones. It's already stated many times that Sumokoin is indeed a Monero fork (a copy of Monero or whatever you may want to call it). Indeed it is on its way of implementing new ones (within the next few months and I am not talking about the light wallet or the web wallet) that will hopefully diferentiate the coin more* SumoGR assures folks that the premine will be spent for new development efforts and infrastructure. According to the best of my knowledge and to what I have seen. I know for fact that more devs are hired and that there is a sound plan on how the premine will be used for the benefit of the coin.* Monero's Bugfixes and new features are to be integrated into sumokoin. Of course, why shouldnt we integrate them?* Sounds like a much better answer I am getting now then before. I am happy about that |
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