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101  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 24, 2014, 03:23:12 PM
I am a social liberal, I believe in government and democracy. I also believe in BTC. It seems like there are a lot of antiestablishment and nutcases in here. I understand the need to form ideas of enemies to explain your own fallacy. We are hard wired to see order and system. Even when there are none. The world is relying on that. The illusion of order is what keeps society structured. Take the Ebola scare atm, most governments do not fear Ebola, they fear the panic it can set off. There are no real order, just small tribes, call them your friends and family, interacting and pretending to work for a better tomorrow. We are primates. We act like primates and are driven by the same desires as our other primate cousins. We do have self awareness, and languages that enable us to post stuff on Internet forums like this. But it's all just a pissing contest and battle for mates and offspring. Individuals matter, empathy matter. I think we are the evolutionary winners because of empathy. We enjoy working with other humans. Of course there is always never a rule without exception. A lot of egotists in here. Then again, it's the speculation forum..
102  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 15, 2014, 09:37:56 AM


HuhHuh
103  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 14, 2014, 10:54:24 PM

No... Mix of real news conference and a Jay Leno skit...

Edited, because I remeberd it wrongly as a SNL skit...

104  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 14, 2014, 10:47:57 PM
I hope we climb slowly. BTC needs to get less volatile.
105  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 13, 2014, 07:03:56 PM
How did this thread turn in to a fanboy war? WHO FUCKING cares what OS you use on your devices? This is about Bitcoin. The FUD about ApplePay and it being a BTC killer, is just nonsense. It does not mater what kind of "money" ApplePay use, and you guys do not understand the basics about Bitcoin. You think its a game and a commodity, something to use to get rich quick, since you are lazy and clueless.  
106  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 13, 2014, 05:25:04 PM



+1

Seems like the troll-box over at BTC-e moved over here.. FUD seems to be the new cool.. Where are the serious posters? Why is it only gambling Chinese talking nonsense about predictions and such..  This is just turning in to a bullshit thread.
107  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why the bitcoin price was under so much downward pressure on: October 09, 2014, 11:11:46 AM
Sell BTC otc if I need cash. But I have enough Fiat to last me and my family until I am gone from this earth....rental income...
108  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why the bitcoin price was under so much downward pressure on: October 08, 2014, 11:27:01 PM
I mine, I do not sell. I hodl. I have a few TH/s so I have a few coins... So not all miners sell. I do however do a bit of alt trading and used to mine a lesser coin. But I am now all in BTC. I lost quite a lot of Gox coins.. I am lucky, and have my own waterfall that produce power, I even sell a bit of power back to the grid. (Norway) so only investment was mining rigs, and I got in to BTC before 2012, but forgot about my wallet until 2013 and the bubble. So going beond gpu mining was a pretty easy decision. The idea that power is expensive  can be wrong.. I do not think I am alone. BTW, I quit my day job in April 2013... I love to read all the fantasy stories on this board. Whales and manipulators. Paranoid, simple minded people is fun at times.. We do not need fiat, we have BTC. Once people understand what I am talking about, you will be free. Forget the fiat. I do buy BTC with fiat, and have not lost a cent, or pardon me, a santoshi  so far. I trade on Bitstamp, and BTC-e and OTC. But not like I did on Gox.. I am a bearbullrabbit...
109  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 06, 2014, 03:13:43 PM
wow, up 12% so far this 24 hors.
110  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 06, 2014, 12:11:15 PM
Does anyone remember http://trading.i286.org/ or clarkmoody that was used for mtgox before it shut down?

Is there any sites like that for bitstamp? (I don't want to use bitcoinwisdom or similar)

http://btccharts.com/
111  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 05, 2014, 07:04:57 PM


112  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 05, 2014, 04:28:10 PM
Hope this low price holds until Monday,so I can buy. This is not the end
113  Economy / Speculation / Re: Dont follow *Anyone. Trolls, To-Da-Mooners, Falling, Sevvero, or *any Prophets on: October 05, 2014, 09:29:50 AM
I know, this is the "Speculation" forum, where *anyone with an opinion (and they all have one) can vent their thoughts using either of their noise-and-wind-emitting orifice's (and its often hard to tell *which one they are using) without any supporting rationale, logic, evidence or any sort of sense at all.   And clearly, they all do.. regularly and repeatedly.  The stench makes it obvious.

The question you should be asking yourself is .. *Why* would they ?   

Do you *really think that they're all just motivated by the milk of human kindness and desperately just want to prevent some random strangers from making a stupid mistake with their  money by shouting their opinions on some little 2-bit forum in a back corner of the internet ?  That they arent either butt-hurt dumpers, paid-fudsters, wanna-be manipulators or just self-important ("I *know _people_ sonny, you should *listen to *me) blowhards

Hah, right.   "Quick, Sell, you will "loose" everything if you dont !",  "No, HODL !, We're going to the moon tomorrow, next week/month/year", "You will be broke and shamed", "You will be a billionaire in 5 years", "You will kick yourself for *not selling/buying now".   

Yap Yap Yap.

I have yet to see a *single one of them put their own money where their mouth (keyboard) is.   They're quick enough to shout "SEE, I Wuz Right !" when it swings their way.

They have super-sure secret insider information ?  Great, Go make a bet, short some coins, or do something that shows that they believe in their opinions.  Show us their financial acumen by proving how right they are.  Nope, they spend their time yapping here and trying to stampede people who are (stupidly) looking for wisdom in a place where any idiot can get up on stage and harangue the n00bs.

Bitcoin goes up, Bears go silent, To-Da-Mooners pop their corks.   Bitcoin goes down, Bulls dissapear and the "Told you so ! You shoulda listened to me !" bears come out of hiding.

First of all, isnt it *obvious that any market that can go from $30 to $270 and back to $90,  then to $1200 and back to $350 in a matter of months is being driven *primarily by *SPECULATION ?   Duh, its only the name of the sub-forum.  If it *does go up to $2000 by Christmas, isnt it *obvious that it can equally as easily come back down again just as fast ?

Get-rich-quick wanna-be's trying to panic the mobs with their talk of Choo-Choo-Trains, Rockets, missed Boats, Beanie Babies, Tulips, Ponzi's and any emotionally-laden historical analogies they can flap about the place.

If you choose to buy a ticket to a roller coaster, *Expect it to be a wild ride.  It goes up and down you know. Thats its nature.  If you're a scaredy, don't get on.   Or take a punt, buy your lotto ticket and go away for a year or so.  worst case, you lose it all, best case you make a lot.  Dont spend what you cant afford to gamble and you don't have to worry.

Bitcoin *IS* a world-changing technology.  There is and has been *nothing like it in the history of the world.  It wasn't even *possible until the global internet (which itself is only 20-odd years old as far as the masses are concerned) enabled the reliable high speed interchange of data amongst the average joes.   Its the first *new form of stateless money with highly desirable characteristics in millennia.   

It Is *very useful in many ways not possible previously.  (not going to list them all here).   But it *is going to take time for it to settle down and find its place.  Collapsing Fiat Currencies, the usual financial shenanigans by stupid governments, the media and the world banking industry are all going to try and make its adoption as slow and difficult as possible, because it *doesn't benefit them, whereas the current system that they own does (at your expense).

Short-sighted idiots who see it purely as a shortcut to their own personal get-rich dreams and speculate wildly will all help to keep it unstable until its market cap reaches the point (billions to trillions) where they can only make little ripples, not big splashes by throwing a few million in and out to panic the gullible and fearful.

I see it primarily as a *Freedom-Tool.   My own personal wealth is literally secondary to that.  I already live my life comfortably, so would I be significantly happier with a Ferrari in the driveway ?  Not in my opinion.  Enough is a feast.   

But, would I like to be able to save/buy/transfer and do whatever I want with my money without middlemen everywhere taking their cut and telling me what I can and cant do ?  Absolutely. 

*Thats what Bitcoin offers long-term, and why I believe in it.   It is the first form of money that is owned by the people who use it.

Every day, new positive things are happening.   People are building new systems based on it.  New apps and platforms are being created constantly.  Adoption is rising.  Its all looking very positive to me.

"Then Why is it going down ?" whine the speculators who bought while it was high.   "Because of people like *YOU, who do nothing except buy and sell in the interest of short-term gain, increasing the volatility and doing nothing to contribute to its adoption".

Gamblers trying to climb on top of each other and focussed purely on trying to increase their own personal wealth by predicting movements or trying to fool others into doing so are so short-sighted its both laughable and pathetic.

Do your research, decide if you think it has potential, make your own decision and stick with it.  Be patient, help it grow and be more useful.  *use it and ignore the emotional price-tickers and the shouters on the street corner..   Anything else leaves you vulnerable to manipulation by panic-merchants with their own agendas.

We now return you to your usual program of Evangelists and Mouth-Frothers preaching their Gospel's for your entertainment.  Pass the popcorn. 
Smiley



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114  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 04, 2014, 08:10:54 PM
Thunk?
115  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 04, 2014, 08:09:29 PM
Popcorn popped. Eyes on bitcoinwisdom. Getting a bit of an adrenaline rush.
116  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 04, 2014, 08:03:18 PM
On the other side.. I am quite happy that I did a short over at plus500, I just made a shitload of fiat. So even if I loose all my BTC, I still go to bed richer than last night... Not rich, just not poor. Will buy more BTC, and think the panic ppl should move to the troll box over at BTC-e... Why are you all posting if you are out of BTC, and do not participate any more. I sense a lot of resentment and envy among the "BTB is dead" and "oh no the sky is falllllling" crowd.

Chill, we are still here, and please do not act like children.
117  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 04, 2014, 04:11:35 PM
I want to buy, but it take too long to get fiat to exchanges. FUCK. Circle limit is shit. Hope I can buy a few coins of the ball less kids that panic now..
118  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 04, 2014, 03:57:09 PM
"More Bitcoin Acceptance (by big e-commerce sites) is the chief reason for the current fall. I even pointed this out in a comment on another blog over 2 weeks ago. Big online merchants aren't keeping the market balanced by using their BTC to purchase inventory, goods, and services. Instead, they're simply dumping their daily intake on the exchanges.

But it gets worse! If a large merchant has sold their goods online that day for, say, 10% under current exchange rates, then they can dump that day's intake of BTC for 9.5% under market and still make dollar profit, but pushing the BTC market down even more in the process.
"

This!
119  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 04, 2014, 07:05:50 AM
Most important thing:

Will Silkroad switch to another coin if Bitcoin goes to 0$? Will it be Doge?


why would bitcoin goes to 0$???

You dear sir is right! It won't or shant go that low. The only (killer) argument to buy bitcon is to buy drugs. So it shall stabilise around $10 like it was for so long (the only true demand). But then again I could be wrong.. According to Adam Africa is buying BTC. We might indeed see $10k soon.

Yeah! And because in Africa they nearly don't have smartphones or internet they will use the rockchain  Grin
Wait until they dump "all" their fiat to buy bitcoin.



Jokes aside, Africa needs lot of development before they can consider buying or using bitcoin. Now it is only for lucky people with internet access.

You do know that there are more mobile phones in Africa than you think? Do you live in the 1960's sir? You probably also know that most Africans use the mobile phones to connect to internet? You should try to open your mind to the idea that Africa is moving forward...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_mobile_phones_in_use
120  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will you still speak about wonderful Bitcoin in family and friend gatherings? on: October 03, 2014, 10:44:48 PM
My family and friends tends to ask very different, far more interesting, less myopic, long-term-oriented questions. Which I'm happy to answer. I've had, and continue to have, fascinating conversations with friends and family about bitcoin and related topics.

The questions you posted, if representative of the types of questions you've received or would receive from your family and friends, are indicative of your core problem, perhaps: Your family and friends are morons. Being surrounded by weak-minds can have a very negative influence on your own intellect.

tl;dr: Try to surround yourself with smart, interesting people, Sevvero. You'll be better off for it ultimately.

...and toward that end myself, I'm done with this thread Smiley

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