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101  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What's the best arbitrage bot? on: July 26, 2017, 07:58:06 PM

I'd stay away from sites like these. This is most probably a scam and anyone associated or promoting it is probably also a scammer.

Sounds like a good way to lose your money. Rule number 1 in crypto, don't trust anyone.
Quiet smart for a new member on this forum and you are definitely right, when i tried out to open the site,i neglect it directly its just an another scam. Relying on trading bots arent too necessary specially when we do arbitrage trading if you dont have much time on facing your computer on longer hours then that would be the effect.I dont have any idea on bots that do have this kind of feature which are good on arbitrage.

You can make arbitrage on your own manually but never attempt to use so called arbitrage bots. They're just poor software make its developer to earn money from you. If the bot had worked, the dev wouldn't have sold it out to you guys.
102  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TOKENCARD on: July 26, 2017, 07:43:18 PM
any exchanges to come

Really? Token card has all the exchanes what else are asking for? Please don't spam under this thread dude. Token card has done its best to list the tokens on best exchanges.

https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-TKN

https://liqui.io/#/exchange/TKN_BTC
103  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin just an asset ? on: July 26, 2017, 07:30:32 PM
I have read in the news that that like bitcoin as virtual currencies are assets and does not have the characteristics or what it takes to be a currency that could meet our modern economic needs. It was said that it does not have the fundamental attributes. What are your thoughts about it?

I somewhat agree to this, because I also believe bitcoin is an asset and not a payment facilitator. With the high fees and higher confirmation time, it simply can't replace the fiat in any way. However, since bitcoin is being speculated and played across the world, it is a very good asset to invest in and to hold. Investing in bitcoin can fetch you much higher return than any other conventional investment can do.

The bitcoin is not regulated and also not generated by a backup asset like fiat currency. In most cases, fiat is backed up by gold, which bitcoin is not. Bitcoin is mostly backed up by public trust and can be a disaster anytime. So play with it and save it for future as an investment asset. That's where bitcoin is good at. 
Yeah, I agree with you that bitcoin is just an asset and not a legal currency for smooth business across the world like dollar. Bitcoin can be used as an asset in particular forum. It is also right that it has no anyway of regulation nor generated with some else backup like gold, but this is due to not recognition in rest of the world, yet. Whenever, it gain a strong position and get recognition/legalization position, then it will also be called a currency.

Bitcoin has a niche, not like dollars, euros, gold and other assets. Bitcoin targets only a limited crowd. It can't be used by the entire world. And central organizations will never want to legalize bitcoin because they don't want dollar to lose its value.
104  Other / Off-topic / Re: Young people should go all in on bitcoin on: July 26, 2017, 06:38:43 PM
Forget about everything else and just put everything on bitcoin. You are living with your parents, they pay everything for you, you got nothing to lose. If I was living with my parents, I would save everything and buy bitcoin monthly. If BTC doesn't keep rising you can still reach the 21 BTC holder group, then save this and retire in 10 years when the price makes you a millionaire.

Go all in on regret later. You are on a privileged position to profit from high risk high reward moves. No risk no win, and BTC is the best long term high risk bet.
Thats indeed a great idea, when you are living with your parents and you dont spend any money on rent and other things, this will get you to save more money to invest in bitcoins and other investment opportunities.
Correct, when people are young they spend a lot of money in things they do not need and that they will forget in a matter of years if instead you put that money in bitcoin then you could have a head start of other young people that did not do the same investment as you.

Young people are buying cellphones, luxury foods, game consoles like play station and Xbox, lots of video games and this kinda things excessively. If they can save Money to buy bitcoin, they could be rich in the future.
105  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [POLL] After the Bitcoin correction, which coin will first hit 2X to 3X? on: July 26, 2017, 06:23:26 PM
WAVES is definitely going to scuttle back to it ATH prices. That is a given

Agreed, waves and siacoin will make epic moon most probably. Bitcoin fork is preventing waves from reach its ath now. After that terrible update ends, waves is likely to go 200k satoshi.
106  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it possible for the bitcoin to lose it's value ? on: July 26, 2017, 01:53:35 AM
Bitcoin is high risk trading so when people decide to invest on bitcoin it means that you're ready for loss.
But the fact is bitcoin's value keep increase over 6-7 years so many people interest on bitcoin potential

Bitcoin doesn't lose totally its value but it will just lessen.
Like the real currency is always facing the inflation makes it devalued.
It's the supply and the demand of the market that we're always relying
Pumps and dumps will just in the corner so bitcoin will not stabilize.

Everybody is stopped and waiting for the solution of the bitcoin upgrade process. The demand is still high and newcomers are joining every day into bitcoin community. These improvements won't let a fall in bitcoin.
107  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Deep Onion on: July 26, 2017, 12:48:18 AM
Do you think this coin has any hope of having high price? I like free money. Just checking in to make a post to get some onion. Hope it is one hundred characters long and doesn't get deleted.

Without TOR agreement for me any onion coin are scam only. And TOR won't never agree any coin, its not a place to speculate but a place for freedom.

Unfortunately true, so our airdrops are actually having no value. I will try to get airdrops just for fun from deep onion. Maybe one day, it makes money. Who knows...
108  Economy / Economics / Re: Will Bitcoin be accepted by USA or will the US try to denounce or embrace? on: July 26, 2017, 12:18:42 AM
We already got Japan. Then sout korea is coming also. Then Australia, then I expect many more countries. USA doesn't want to accept bitcoin but they will also have to accept it naturally after other counties' acceptance.
109  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to win free Bitcoins in a short time ??? on: July 25, 2017, 11:55:21 PM
Hello to you.
   What are the best sites to win free Bitcoins in less than 60 minutes of time ??
I already know https://freebitco.in/ but to win Satoshi, you have to wait every hour (1 hour) of time. It is too long.
Are there other serious sites that give Bitcoins in less than 60 minutes ??

Thanks in advance for giving me these sites there.

Faucets are useless, never spend your time there go out and work in a place, it's 100 times better than chasing faucets. If you have only 60 minutes a day, nothing came to my brain to suggest you.
110  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: The best Short-Term Coins for 2k17 on: July 25, 2017, 11:26:16 PM
Probably ethereum classic, litecoin and ripple. All of them are like a bomb ready to explode in short term. Ethereum classic will go up after ether pos apply. Litecoin is manipulated by assians as you all know. Ripple will hit $0.40 once again in 2017. My personal comments, not linking for others.
111  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The BTC BCC exchange paradox on: July 25, 2017, 11:18:01 PM
Unless exchanges explain that they will gurantee our split security, we can't trust them and I also don't know what to do in this position. Nobody is clear so far including exchanges.
112  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: July 25, 2017, 03:03:41 AM
That's where the $1000 by March will come from!

The $1000 mark will simply come from people realizing that XMR has been undervalued for a very long time. At $1000, its market cap would still be below that of ETH's as of the time of this post. At that point XMR would become the solid #3 coin that many consider XMR should be at.

Offshore wealth getting into XMR will come later.

I don't believe Monero can reach $1.000 unless bitcoin reach $20.000 due to market capilazitaion psychologic borders. Being $1.000 makes monero a multi billion coin and this is not possible.
113  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XRP] Ripple Speculation on: July 25, 2017, 02:13:41 AM
Such a frustrating coin to buy, I'm sure there will be many great opportunities at some point. The rest of the 55B xrp from the insider may mean we will not see even bigger profits.


I really don't care for these amounts. I just trade it and it's giving huge profit. I'll sell some more at $0.25 and buy back from $0.15 again. Try that limits and it works. No need to wait for bigger profits.
114  Economy / Economics / Re: So, you want to be rich? All of you ? on: July 25, 2017, 01:54:52 AM
when people are talking more about lambhorginis than about the tech itself, its there that I worry about how much this is a bubble. Seriously, some people investing all they have in a shitcoin, they do it only expecting it to reach an higher price thats all... the end of this bubble will be painful

People that are aiming only for being reach and luxury cars are putting their money in garbage coins and they want 5x profit in days. This never will happen and those will lose their money.
115  Economy / Speculation / Re: why is bitcoin price rising? on: July 25, 2017, 01:43:52 AM
I don't know why the price is rising but I know that the price should not be dropping because there are some exchanges that are still buying bitcoins during these days. Coinmamma in US and Bitpanda in EU are still accepting to sell and buy bitcoins, respectively Coinmamma only selling to users and Bitpanda, buying and selling to users.
I also don't. Everything that comes on my mind is bitcoin whales who began to buy coins after the price dropped low due to work of speculators who were yelling about bitcoin's pop after the 1st of August.

You might have a point thatvthe whales might be the ones that are controlling the current prices of Bitcoin. It must be said that the prices have tumbled and soared back in position within a space of two weeks and so I smell a rat of whales activities during this time period.
those whales know that the event in 1st august will solve some bitcoin's problem thus make bitcoin more valueable than now. as you know, these events exist for the sake of solving critical problem instead of letting bitcoin obsolete by the time being.
Pretty curious of how people think that segwit and block size increase is a bad thing LOL

This rise is nothing now. If they can solve scalability and slow transaction problems, we'll see a sky rocket from bitcoin price. We just need the problems solved.
116  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: South Korea Officially Legalizes Bitcoin, Huge Market For Traders on: July 25, 2017, 01:30:29 AM
IF this will push through, the amount of bitcoin will get bigger, as we all know South Korea is one of the country that has a large amount of exportation in terms of Entertainment,Movie and Music, since we all know that South Korea is the home of International Idols or KPOP Idols and they have global fans and one of the biggest fans are from China,Just look at the possibilities of Bitcoin's amount rising within just a year, since South Korea will legalize this, Global Fans will also adopt bitcoin, this is a smart move of South Korea's Government for Global users of bitcoin.

You adressed it very well, nicely explained. And also remember south korean people are very keen on ether/altcoin trades on exchanges. We'll see their names more following years. Assia is a main market for bitcoin and altcoins.
117  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Another Ethereum ICO get hacked. on: July 25, 2017, 01:25:50 AM
Again, again and again.

http://www.newsbtc.com/2017/07/24/yet-another-ethereum-ico-gets-hacked-veritaseum-loses-us4-5m/

Unstopable hacks!

This time Veritaseum ICOs token based on ETH suffers from atack with 4.7 million $$$ looses.


Obviously Ehtereum Network have a massive problems. And devs will always tell you that this is imature of experimental technology  Wink
How far this will goes?

Its madness I never heard before about so many hacks on blokchain before Ethereum and ICOs appeared.
It is the 3rd hack for the month. Its just tooo much.
Bitcoin was never hacked at all so as many other coins around. Just WTF is going on???



This will never end until these hackers are arrested, they steal so professionally and they're draining every single unsecured ethereum wallet.
118  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Tidex.com is Scam on: July 25, 2017, 01:20:31 AM
I used Tidex since some times never had any problems,

But how the hell did you think it was a good idea to make a transfer via an address given on telegram...
for what I see, you just have been tricked by some guys with a fake tidex related name on telegram...

Tidex has an automated deposit system, why the hell did you think that telegram was a better option  Roll Eyes

Tidex is make one telegram account with this name Tidex_exchange
Added in contact website and writhe all gruop in telegram vip account for dump and pomp
After send btc removed this account from telegram and removed from website , do not recived signal from tidex & don't refunded money. I send 0.05 Btc 1 month ago and blocked in telegram . I call to police and complain in this site cyberpolice said this site from russia , We do not do anything. 90% russian website is scammer. Police said your money is gone

I strongly think you're mixing things up with each other. Tidex is 100% a legit exchange which I also used several times, not so often but my friends are also using it and they're all satisfied with it.

Think well before you blame a company, they can take position against you with their lawyers.
119  Economy / Speculation / Re: Btc value rising why? on: July 22, 2017, 11:42:08 PM
With the instability of the SegWit happening with which kind of fork, we saw bitcoins value drop a bit down 2k. As we are approaching the day of SegWit, I was expecting that the btc could indeed decrease a bit of his value, but it is increasing( that's great ). But why is it increasing ? people started to trust btc even after SegWit ?

My guess is that either investors started buying up Bitcoins while the price dropped below $2000 and this increased demand that has continued, or the price is being pumped before a dump.

It's also possible that those people close to the SegWit situation know something the rest of us don't know, or they could be anticipating a huge price increase after the fork and are buying them up as a result.

My guess is different. I think people exited from pumped altcoins and ether because they found bicoin very cheap when it was under $2000 last week. And they started a movement on exchanges like waves moving among the investors. And we found ourselves in this position.
120  Economy / Speculation / Re: what will bitcoin be worth in 5 years {2020} ? on: July 22, 2017, 11:32:35 PM
4k, but only because we'll be in a bear market after whatever ATH 2017 still holds in store. Things will get really crazy in 2021 when the 2020 halving makes itself felt.

So do you believe it could be very similar to 2016 block halving? I mean the results? Remember that bitcoin was $500-600 around 2016 block halving. After that we moved to $1,000 very fast on january 2017. Then we could even come to $2,900 easily 5-6 months later on.
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