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101  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 18, 2013, 02:40:22 PM
For once I'll say thank god there is gox to support the price otherwise bitstamp looks like it would go down the rabbit hole. What is going on over there and what happened to the order book? The bid at btcchina doesn't look impressive either.
Total bids: 6747666.1314018351  | Total asks: 3223422.1035258354

https://www.bitstamp.net/market/order_book/
102  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 18, 2013, 01:52:47 PM
This going to be on c span?

If so when.

Thx
Hearing starts 6 hours from now.
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/Currenci

Edit:
http://www.hsgac.senate.gov/hearings/beyond-silk-road-potential-risks-threats-and-promises-of-virtual-currencies

On Tuesday:
http://www.banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=955322cc-d648-4a00-a41f-c23be8ff4cad
103  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 18, 2013, 01:48:06 PM
Who are these dorks selling on Stamp?  

"Oh, the other two exchanges are 25% higher and are either steady or climbing. Guess I better dump!"
Sounds reasonable Wink

Could be folks like myself who moved coins from gox to stamp, and want to liquidate a few since money been tied up for a while.


EDIT: 3000 coins showing in Sum Ask on gox?
btc-e?
104  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 18, 2013, 01:43:16 PM
Who are these dorks selling on Stamp?  

"Oh, the other two exchanges are 25% higher and are either steady or climbing. Guess I better dump!"
Sounds reasonable Wink
105  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 18, 2013, 08:06:19 AM
Is europe ahead or behind the us in terms of time zone? Deposits showing up at stamp?
Deposits (bitfinex, fresh money) should show up on stamp starting in 2 hours from now.
UT 10-14 I was told.
106  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 18, 2013, 01:29:42 AM
Nice moon pictures!
I am back in.
This will end in tears...
107  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 18, 2013, 01:18:22 AM
Decisions under uncertainty. I have to rule out the worst case Sad
108  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 18, 2013, 12:52:53 AM
To sleep or not to sleep. That is the question.
No.
To pass out or not to pass out ...
109  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 18, 2013, 12:47:37 AM
stamp: holding 475
gox:    holding 526.9

USD
110  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 17, 2013, 11:59:20 PM
~9hrs until new funds arrive at bitstamp...
111  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 17, 2013, 10:42:21 PM
What time is the hearing tomorrow?
3PM Washington D.C. time.
http://www.hsgac.senate.gov/hearings/beyond-silk-road-potential-risks-threats-and-promises-of-virtual-currencies

Another hearing (next day):
http://www.banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=955322cc-d648-4a00-a41f-c23be8ff4cad
112  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 17, 2013, 01:57:13 PM
Bitcoinity having issues?

Forward timetravel exists.
113  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 17, 2013, 12:04:17 PM
Now the question becomes:

Is this the vertical of the Sigmoid curve or are we ahead of it and due for a major correction like in April?
One could make a poll out of this, not?
114  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 17, 2013, 08:31:37 AM

Panel II

    Ernie Allen
    President and Chief Executive Officer
    The International Centre for Missing & Exploited Children


I think there is a chance the bitcoin representatives may have to walk out on this hearing. Nothing good can come of this if they have already decided bitcoin is directly associated with child porn.
Maybe that is what

Edward W. Lowery III
Special Agent in Charge, Criminal Investigative Division
U.S. Secret Service, U.S. Department of Homeland Security

is for?

I see this even as a chance to catch more criminals.
115  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 17, 2013, 07:51:12 AM
Thank you <3
116  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 17, 2013, 07:30:55 AM
People in this thread referred a few times to the senate hearing being on monday.
See correct date here:

http://www.banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Hearings.Hearing&Hearing_ID=955322cc-d648-4a00-a41f-c23be8ff4cad
117  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 17, 2013, 07:08:29 AM
Isn't there a checksum?

Yes, there is a link on the download page "Verify release signatures".

Verifying the checksum of Bitcoin software is important.
If someone were able to change the software on the site, don't you think they'd be able to adjust the checksum mentioned there as well?
That's why developers should always sign the checksums with their keys. However, the client_downloads to checksum_downloads ratio
is daunting.

Checksum is for validating bit errors likely to occur in a bit stream i.e. communication channel. It is NOT EVER EVER meant to be used cryptographically!! It is very feasible to modify the file and keep a valid checksum. In fact, CRC was used in the old 802.11/WEP standard as a message authentication code, and we know how well that worked out.

The entire file needs to be signed, or a secure hash (SHA256 hash in this case) that is signed. Signed by whom and validated by whom in which chain of trust is another can of worms best left unopened.

I know that what is actually provided is a SHA256 hash and not a checksum so I'm just being mean :-(

Edit: Technically it should be a MAC like HMAC_SHA256 as a pure SHA256 is vulnerable to a padding based attack, while SHA-3/Keccak in general is not.
I think you are right. I got caught up in lingo, as they name the file SHA256SUMS.asc on their site.
118  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 17, 2013, 06:47:43 AM
Isn't there a checksum?

Yes, there is a link on the download page "Verify release signatures".

Verifying the checksum of Bitcoin software is important.
If someone were able to change the software on the site, don't you think they'd be able to adjust the checksum mentioned there as well?
That's why developers should always sign the checksums with their keys. However, the client_downloads to checksum_downloads ratio
is daunting.
119  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 17, 2013, 05:52:18 AM
might as well ask on here: how do you verify (?pgp key) that the bitcoin qt is legit from bitcoin.org ?

http://bitcoin.org/en/download

notice the .exe is 9mb but in actuality it is 11.1 mb.... did someone alter it?

sirus runs that site, i doubt something odd is going on. (unless hacked)
Isn't there a checksum?
120  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 16, 2013, 11:31:49 AM
IMG
This image is wrong. It shows light at the end of the tunnel ^^.
I heard they should have SEPA fixed until beginning of next year.
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