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101  Economy / Gambling / Re: Without money, does it still qualify as gambling? on: May 04, 2023, 07:31:14 AM
Maybe when gambling started when money was not fashionable, what they used to match were coppers, silver, gold, or things that were important to them in exchange for what they won.

This is probably what you mean, am I right? Though, I really believe that there are other gamblers who do it just as a hobby and nothing else.
What do you means that there are gamblers that just do it as a hobby? Did you mean the gamblers that just play game for fun and there is no money involved? If that is it, they are not gamblers because gamblers uses money to gamble.

Gold, Silver or anything used to gamble like that are money too. Some people can use other things to gamble too, like property. But gambling with property is stupidity to me.
All of that is gambling since you can lose something with it, but also I would say playing with imaginary coins or demo money can be gambling if you care about it. If you are in competition with your friends who will collect more money it's still gambling.
102  Economy / Gambling / Re: A reminder for gamblers to avoid FortuneJack (ongoing lawsuit, 120k usd stolen) on: May 03, 2023, 12:57:20 PM
I understand this situation and i don`t ask any private information. But i think it would be correct to inform the members about the result. I think that information about appeals not so value, but the result decision of the court we must know. And it doesn`t matter who will win - if you decided to move to the court we have to believe their decision.

Agree since how would people believe this if there's no update regarding on the lawsuit filed against them? Its like he just want people to believe that there something like that to happen and no question or update will be ask since you just need to believe him. That's crazy action and people will not gonna buy that since people need to see some information show before they believe on their accusation against the platform.
It is possible that someone, who just begin to gamble will not risk and choose the other casino. He willn`t make any research - just negative feedback and the gambler chooses another casino.
But anyway we need this information and the result of the court, such situations are possible for any casino and we must know about it and the reaction of the casino support can help us to make a decision about the casino.
We should just assume they are innocent until proven wrong. Many things can happen when funds are stolen. Fund are stolen from banks on regular bases and we still use them, so lets see first what will the court say.
103  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 03, 2023, 12:28:29 PM
I'm not sure that Roma will manage to close the season in the top 4 this season as AC Milan and Inter milan are likely to be the last 2 teams to compete in the race for 4th place. while juventus and lazio seem like they are very safe and they only need to win and win in the rest of the season to keep their hopes from being disturbed by inter milan and ac milan.

I think both Lazio & Juventus also need to be careful because Roma, AC Milan & Inter can replace both of them if their performances disappoint, on the other hand Roma & Milan duo are able to improve their performances by winning the remaining matches. The difference of 3-4 points with 6 matches remaining can still change everything. The competition for positions 2 - 4 is still interesting to follow, even though maybe this week we can see Napoli win the Serie A title. Apart from that, we will see the competition for lower-tier teams who will success to escape relegation zone.
What will happen with Juve? I saw UEFA want's them out from European competitions for 2years until they see what will happen with their legal stuff. With that we can see Roma in champions league next year.
104  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Referral bonuses are waste of time on: May 02, 2023, 08:00:53 PM
referral bonuses are not waste of time , have you tried openwavelimited referral link, 1 referral gives you a bonuses from anyone who invested  you can't rule out everyone comapany referral system
I think one of the reasons why op thinks that referral bonus is a waste of time is because it is time consuming if you don't have a group or a team where you can get your referrals from. There are some gambling referral system that do not allows gamblers to earn reasonable amount because of how strick the system could be. Some persons may see referrals as a waste of time since the refered gamblers would have to make deposit and play some bets before we cam get the referral bonus. Those that don't have a means of getting referrals may not bother themselves on getting referrals.
Referrals are not a obligation and as so they are not waste of time. If you think you can get something from it then use them if no it's also okey.
105  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Serbian Super League (Super Liga Srbije) Prediction Thread [2022/23] on: May 02, 2023, 05:53:53 PM
It is good that Serbian football has started to become a global sport. The most prominent teams are still under the leadership of the national team. Most of the players there are still active in the game. It is expected that they will take part in the Superleague.
TSC has become admirable club in Serbian league. I heard they have good facilities and a lot of money. My friend played for them when they were in second league and told me all best things about them.
106  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: May 02, 2023, 05:34:32 PM
Every Champions League match was very important for Madrid. Real Madrid has dominated the Champions League matches since the beginning of the season. And so we have seen better performances from Real Madrid in almost every Champions League match.
Manchester City is a strong opponent. And so it won't be easy for Madrid to beat City. I would say both teams have a 50-50 chance of winning. The team that will be able to play well on the field will qualify for the finals. The Madrid team is experienced in the Champions League platform. Despite City being strong, against Ancelotti's match strategy, Manchester City will find it very difficult to win.
There are always different views on the semi-finals between Real Madrid vs Man City, the two clubs are equally great, they just have different experiences, while what we know is that Man City, under the tutelage of Pep Guardiola, has been able to win various titles for several years, only one that has not been achieved, namely the Champions League.
Their chances are still the same advancing to the final but we saw the history of Real Madrid which impresses everyone but Manchester City will still continue to try against these odds their squad is ready with a very reliable squad especially Haaland who has always been talked about will be the destroyer of Real Madrid later, but it's still very difficult to predict, we always see Madrid so strong at the end.

Manchester City has been favorites for the Champions League title every season. But after qualifying for the semi-final or final, they lost form and failed to win the title. Despite having a strong squad, they could not win the Champions League title. Manchester City is in great form this season as well. The squad is very strong and they are in good form. Even then, I wouldn't be surprised at all if they fail to win the title. Because Real Madrid's squad is also very experienced and strong. However, Luka Modric is likely to be absent from the squad. Madrid's midfield may be a bit weak in this. If the midfield doesn't perform well, I think Madrid's overall performance will be a bit slow.
Being in semifinals is big even for Man City. But in semifinals it's not only about how good you are. There is always history team has and all 3teams left a lot of it. I think Real Madrid will be favorite in the game.
107  Economy / Gambling / Re: Enough to consider a casino scam? on: May 02, 2023, 12:24:01 PM
Casinos seeking KYC for withdrawal are completely out of line; if they do not request KYC when funding, how can they want KYC after winning such large sums?

That's a good point but different jurisdictions can have different requirements or thresholds for when the KYC is required. On top of that, there might be different levels of verification. So it's possible that for smallish deposits only basic verification was required, but after winning big, the player might have fallen into a different threshold and was asked to complete a full verification.
But even if that was the case, every player should've been properly informed of the procedures when signing up.
I think the rules should be da same for deposit and withdraw. Now when someone puts 20$ and wins jackpot then he is withdrawing bigger amount then the deposit so I think is right to ask for KYC is KYC is also asked for same number if deposited.
108  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: May 01, 2023, 06:06:54 PM
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professional gamblers are there mate , they will not be called as professional gamblers if they are addicted or stupid  in this field , those people are known to be expert in all areas of gambling and yes they can control completely their attitude and behavior.
they will not gamble continuously if they knew that luck is not with them,=.
Wouldn't really put professional gamblers up a pedestal about addiction and whatnot. They can still be addicted really, it's just they're more likely not to become one since they've been gambling for so long that they know what's up with it. Being a professional doesn't exactly mean you're immune to being an addict, it simply means you're being paid to do whatever said activity is.
Yeah I agree, no one is above the habit of becoming an addict. If you are a gambler and you understand the simple notion of losing too much or trying to win when it isn't coming then I can guess you can be able to refrain yourself from becoming a gambling addict. Professional or no professional gambling is still gambling and you can become addicted to it even if you have been playing for lots of years, in some way the gambling addict are actually the ones who find it really difficult to leave gambling.
Does it exist a term like professional gambler? I don't think so. Maybe professional beter and knowing what you play. But when it comes to casinos games it's all to luck. If you can explain me what is pro gambler?
109  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: F1 Formula Sports Racing - Sportsbet.io promotions & discussion thread on: May 01, 2023, 11:18:44 AM
Actually, 1st time to watch the F1 race again, after so many years of not watching a race, I manage to watch the latest Azerbaijan Grand Prix, and it was great looking at your favorite racers getting into it back then I like Fernando Alonso back on 2005 up to 2006, but seeing the new technology we are in right now and the new machines of the Red Bull I was amazed on the progress for many teams, and in 2010 Sebastian Vettel put Red Bull in the top and become champion up to 2013 then Lewis Hamilton has gotten Mercedes to the top for the Champion and right now Red Bull is on the top with Max Verstappen is now the champion, and pretty much this 2023 the champion for this season for the corresponding Grand Prix are

BAHRAIN GP
Max Verstappen

SAUDI ARABIAN GP
Sergio Perez

AUSTRALIAN GP
Max Verstappen

AZERBAIJAN GP
Sergio Perez

Now looking forward for the next week Grand Prix,
Red bull has been dominating so far but Ferrari looked good this weekend and they are bringing more updates for upcoming races so we can maybe see a fight in future races. RedBull has smaller time in wind tunnel so that will affect them in later stages of the season, I just hope they won''t be to far ahead by that time.
110  Economy / Gambling / Re: Can we trust 3rd party Slot providers? on: May 01, 2023, 11:15:16 AM
Even for 3rd party Slots there are licences and regulations, so if they have all of that then I don't see the problem. Before trying new casinos always check for that.
111  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Hash games entertainment on: April 30, 2023, 07:24:43 PM
Making gambling business is not straight forward. There are many things that need to be shown and competition is really strong. Firstly I know there are strong regulations around online casinos, how you stand with that?
112  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: April 30, 2023, 12:39:34 PM

So far, Inter have lost their place to Atalanta in the Conference League. Lazio were able to score in the first half and their gap to Juventus increased. I don't think this game can show us any results in the future. So far all the top clubs in the Italian Serie A can qualify for the European Leagues, only one of them can't do it. Right now it's Iner, but all is not yet lost for them. The match against Lazio isn't over yet, but even that match doesn't decide anything.
the second half has started but Inter Milan is still 1 goal behind Lazio, I think Inter Milan's game is not developing in this match and it's been 15 minutes the second half has been running non-stop their tick has not changed maybe it is very difficult for them to be able to win this match.
at this time the possibility for Inter Milan to finish in 4th place in the final Serie A standings is quite small, they are 3 points behind AC Milan and AS Roma, even though there are still 6 matches left this season but if Inter Milan still doesn't play inconsistently I think nothing any possibility for Inter Milan.
Inter are currently winning with a 2 : 1 scoreline after making a comeback  in the game and from the way they're playing, winning the match is an inevitable. If Inter wins the match they're gonna tie with AC Milan and Roma on 57 points but are gonna be in the position because of their superior goal difference.
What an interesting and entertaining end to the Serie A season it gonna be as the four clubs are gonna fight for who finishes in the no. four position.
This is perfect result for viewers since we will have interesting matches until last matchday. Inter or Milan will also play final of champions league and will have a good season at the end.
113  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: April 30, 2023, 10:21:58 AM
I think the Inter Milan team is now more worried about the Champions League match. Inter Milan's performance in Serie A has also been poor. Even then, Inter Milan will definitely try to move into the top four of the table. On the other hand, Inter Milan's rivals Lazio are now second in the points table. Dolly is very strong this season. The Lazio team will try their best to defeat Inter Milan.
Roma and Inter has the opportunity to qualify for the champions league competition next season if any team at the top fails to win any of their games. Inter has a very important match with Milan and that should be the focus of the team. But they shouldn't take the match so lightly because they still have three more mountains to climb in the champions league for them to get an automatic qualification for the next champions league.

The match between Roma and AC Milan was a draw. Both teams performed very carefully. AC Milan will play in the semi-finals of the Champions League and Roma will play in the Europa League. And so, despite the importance of this match, I think they are happy to share the points.
I am waiting for Lazio vs Inter Milan match. There is no doubt that the Lazio team is strong this season. On the other hand, Inter Milan's performance has been erratic. Moreover, their main focus now is on the Champions League. However, if Inter Milan wins against Lazio, it will be easy for them to qualify for the Champions League.
Both Milan and Roma teams were equally strong and both teams played the entire match on the bone. neither team was able to score in the first and second halves.  However, it was a very exciting time with both teams scoring one goal each in extra time at the end of the game Roma scored in 90+4" and soon after Milan scored in 90+7". the entire match was very boring but the last moment of the game was tense. the final moments of the game are not to be forget
Such a boring game until extra time. This result is playing good for Inter and Atalanta so will have more people for champions league to fight.
Atalanta played Torino today and in this match Atalanta scored 1 goal in the first half but the first half of the game was not so good.  It was very boring.  Although I didn't enjoy the whole match.  But what I saw was boring.  But the game improved in the 2nd half and Atalanta scored another goal to win the match.However, Atalanta is still far behind in the points table, they are not yet fit to be champions, leaving behind Milan, Roma, Lazio, Juventus, Napoli.  Because they have many strong competitors
This game today between Inter and Lazio will tell us alot what we can expect from the standings and how it will look going forward, and I think Atalanta is not ready to be champions but they are good enough to be in champions league. If top teams keep losing points like they are doing I can see that happening.
114  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: April 30, 2023, 09:37:36 AM
I think the Inter Milan team is now more worried about the Champions League match. Inter Milan's performance in Serie A has also been poor. Even then, Inter Milan will definitely try to move into the top four of the table. On the other hand, Inter Milan's rivals Lazio are now second in the points table. Dolly is very strong this season. The Lazio team will try their best to defeat Inter Milan.
Roma and Inter has the opportunity to qualify for the champions league competition next season if any team at the top fails to win any of their games. Inter has a very important match with Milan and that should be the focus of the team. But they shouldn't take the match so lightly because they still have three more mountains to climb in the champions league for them to get an automatic qualification for the next champions league.

The match between Roma and AC Milan was a draw. Both teams performed very carefully. AC Milan will play in the semi-finals of the Champions League and Roma will play in the Europa League. And so, despite the importance of this match, I think they are happy to share the points.
I am waiting for Lazio vs Inter Milan match. There is no doubt that the Lazio team is strong this season. On the other hand, Inter Milan's performance has been erratic. Moreover, their main focus now is on the Champions League. However, if Inter Milan wins against Lazio, it will be easy for them to qualify for the Champions League.
Both Milan and Roma teams were equally strong and both teams played the entire match on the bone. neither team was able to score in the first and second halves.  However, it was a very exciting time with both teams scoring one goal each in extra time at the end of the game Roma scored in 90+4" and soon after Milan scored in 90+7". the entire match was very boring but the last moment of the game was tense. the final moments of the game are not to be forget
Such a boring game until extra time. This result is playing good for Inter and Atalanta so will have more people for champions league to fight.
115  Economy / Gambling / Re: Without money, does it still qualify as gambling? on: April 29, 2023, 03:34:30 PM
Well poker stars has used points system for long time where you can play without real money, also zynga poker. Now I think if you care enough for the points it's gambling. Gambling is not neccesarry a bad thing either. If you care for somerhing that is betting on then it is gambling for me.
116  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: April 29, 2023, 12:31:59 PM
That's why it's really better if you only have a small budget set aside for gambling, don't overdo it, honestly, at least if you lose, you won't have anything to draw, that's it, automatic stop immediately, that's what you should do and if you win Even if it's not a big deal, stop right away and then come back after a few days.
Unfortunately, it's easier said than done!
The problem with gambling addiction and addiction in general is that addicts can not control their emotions.
Even if they set a small budget for gambling, after losing it, they will immediately deposit more without giving it a second thought. Some of them will not hesitate to steal or borrow money they know they can't refund after losing their own money.
The best thing to do is to seek professional help before things gets worse.

That's just the exact situation with gambling addiction, it's an uncontrollable feelings that we ensure we must do even at all expenses and later finds our actions being regrettable, so don't have the money with you else you will got tempted and loose control to withdraw and use it for gambling, you can put a food in front of an hungry man and asked him not to touch or each from it after you left, that's very impossible in this kind of situation and you can link such with gambling experience also, an addicted gamblers cannot hold down money without using it for gambling either it belongs to him or not.
Since begining of times humans are trying to beat emotions but mostly they fail. Those one who can do it are successfull in things like gambling trading etc. But those people are so rare. Other thing is gambling to have fun and that I have nothing agains, and that should be the esense of gambling.
 It's sad to hear someone lost their house on gambling but I think that doesn't happen so often, it's just that it's such a bad think so we hear about it so often.
117  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Mjesečna Analiza za Hrvatsku Lokalnu Zajednicu (Bitcointalk Croatian) on: April 29, 2023, 12:22:53 PM
Bitno je da smo zaustavili negativan trend i da smo se stabilizovali a sa vremenom se nadam da ce novi ljudi doci i doprinjeti jos vecem rastu foruma.
Nadam se da ce se nastaviti ubuduce ovako mada ja mislim da ce April biti losiji sad mjesec jer je toliko praznika bilo i vecina je na neki manji odmor bila, ali bitna je ta generalna tendencija rasta. Nesto imam osjecaj da ce forum jos vise dobiti na vrijednosti narednih godina, jer ovaj kvalitet postova, ljudi, znanja je tesko postalo naci na drugim mjestima. U tome je prednost svega ovoga.

Drago mi je vidjeti tvoj doprinos ovom našem lokalu, kao i doprinose novih lokalnih ''zvijezda'' poput Grim_Fandango, SirJohnVonSlotty i drugih.
U top 10 postera imamo gotovo pola novih članova što je super za ovaj naš lokal jer sam prije ponekad imao osjećaj da pričam sam sa sobom, s obzirom da je uvijek istih 4-5 članova odgovaralo na postove i već si unaprijed znao tko će što reći.
Znamo se već godinama i točno znam koga što zanima i čime se bavi od starih članova, i što će odgovoriti pa to baš i nije bilo poticajno za neke diskusije.
Zahvaljujući vama diskusije su opet postale zanimljive i lokal je živnuo.  Grin
Samo tako dalje a nadam se da će se uskoro uključiti i novi članovi.
 


Mislim da ljudi vremenom shvataju vaznost ovog foruma, kvalitet postova, ljudi, kolicine znanja. Sve to je tesko pronaci na drugim mjestima dje samo kvantitet vlada. Zato mislim da slijede lijepe godine pred nama.
Sad sto se Aprila tice mislim da se malo slabiji biti zbog kolicine praznika kojih je bilo ovaj mjesec, ali generalno rastemo sto je dobro.
118  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: April 29, 2023, 09:59:18 AM
This is what many say in football but the table turns around at times, that's by the way. Juventus would surely be the preference of gamers in their next Seria A match against Lecce next week, they are too above them (Lecce) in terms of feats. I predict two goals to nothing in the game as Juventus seems to have taken back their morale after the 15 points have been restored to them.

Juventus never lost their motivation after the 15 points deduction, rather it spurred them to work harder. I was quite impressed with the commitment of the players that made them sacrifice for the team and put their best. This season might end to be the best for Juventus if they qualify for the Champions League and win the Europa Cup. Lecce beat Udinese in a spectacular game that made celebrate a little upliftment out of the relegation zone. Juventus will be striving to hold on to the third position or moving to the second spot of Lazio drops point. Lecce will never want to go back to the relegation zone. So this match will be a battle of two desperate teams that are fighting for important positions.
I heard Juve is going to Seria B cause of their finances, now I don't like them in general but it would be so bad for Seria A if they end again in lower league. With them or without this will be interested fight for top 4 this year.
119  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: F1 Formula Sports Racing - Sportsbet.io promotions & discussion thread on: April 29, 2023, 09:47:34 AM
I've missed the qualifying, but I've just seen the highlights ( https://youtu.be/7QFluV5wV4I ) and:
* it looks like we might have an interesting race between RBR, Ferrari, Merc and Aston
* I find interesting the performance improvement McLaren has shown, but it may be only caused by the slow corners of the city circuit

Today is sprint race day, I'm looking forward to that. Since everybody had a lot less time to practice and configure the cars.. it may be interesting (and obviously the race too).

I almost totally forgot about this race but I saw I put in my picks way early already so missed the action but at least it does look really like this could be a challenge for Red Bull.

I like the idea that everyone has less "practice" so we get more upsets, although I did make picks according to last race favorites lol
Ferrari looks strong this weekend hope they will be in race too since we need them to make it more interesting. I was disappointed with start of season since red bull is so much stronger then everyone.
120  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Chat GTP destroy poker on-line gambling??? on: April 29, 2023, 09:44:20 AM
People will try to use AI for making profits, in gambling, or some other ways. I think some people are already deep into that... it's a question is it working for them or not? When it comes to poker, AI can't destroy it, and I am sure it will not work perfectly all the time... just like I have lucky and unlucky days, AI will have them too. And can you imagine a table with all AI players? In the end, someone needs to lose on that table... poker and cards can be crazy sometimes, I am not sure that AI is aware of that.
This is not worth risking big money and account with experiments like this.
I think that casinos would notice something strange is happening and that human is not playing this poker game, maybe even ban use of this, but AI bot would not mean more profit for player.
They can only learn and repeat what was done before and it is not easy to repeat that in poker games, with different players and stakes.

Its just that some gamblers do not know that many casinos are so smart that they have not detectors and if they find out that they have a particular customer that seems to be using not to book games and bet on there platform, they wouldn't waste time to block the account and make sure that the gamblers do not have access to the account because it break there terms and conditions.
Any person that want to use AI to bet on casino should do that on their own peril because many gambling casinos frown against the use of AI or bot on their platform.

Any suspicious act of gamblers could be tracked by casinos so there's no way Chat GPT could destroy any casino games, especially poker. It's fine to rely on it sometimes in case we need help and guidance because of confusion but we should always use it as a tool to abuse the casino. The casino has the right and prerogative to ban or restrict abusive players anytime. It is better to enjoy the game using our own skills and strategy so we won't face the consequences in the future.
I think casinos are safe from ChatGPT, the gambling systems are development for decades and are safe. Now only think that could change that are quantum computers since they are a different beast in global and big danger for aspects of life even for gambling.
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