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101  Economy / Economics / Re: Bad economic situation makes bitcoins more difficult to keep. on: August 24, 2023, 09:29:43 AM
Even in bad economy whoever is determined to Keep Bitcoin would do it. The economy is not going to get any better. Being prepared is the best decision any holder can take. The motivation for every holder no matter the economy situation is that I'm the next couple of months we'd have the Bitcoin halving and the people who will benefit are the people who held. And the possibility of making a fortune out of it is high.
In a bad economic situation it will be very difficult to hold on to BTC if we have little income, but it would be very good if we don't sell it and keep holding on to be able to get a good profit from it. But it would be better if we have enough savings to take advantage of a situation like this to buy it and hold it to make a profit when the price improves later.
102  Economy / Economics / Re: How to avoid over expenses and have discipline on: August 24, 2023, 08:30:28 AM
budgeting and financial planning always work but it honestly also depends on the income, if our income are too small then everything would be over expenses, the first most essential thing is to improve the income first though financial planning and budgeting also should come together with that honestly and then we can start building up the funds that we have, growing wealth and many more.
but we must also remember the very reason why we want financial independence that is to spent for something that we want (well not necessarily overly luxurious items like sports car) and still have so much money left we could be living our dream life, this couldn't be realized by just saving, as my first point still stands, increasing income takes priority.
Can manage spending planning well even though a little income will be very good if we can do it. You are right by choosing additional income to supplement income, it would be very good to achieve financial independence and properly manage our expenses not to use on what we don't need so that we can save and it would be even better if we already understand investments we can invest to get more lots of extra income.
103  Economy / Economics / Re: My wealth plan for next 3 years on: August 24, 2023, 07:59:23 AM
I am a big risk taker and I was able to take different risks when investing because it's my money if I lose the money it's not the end of my life, I will start over again, but a loan will make things harder because you need to pay up, no one cares what or how you lose the money, you will only be free after you settle your debt.

Every investment has its risks, and that's why a loan is not a good idea, Even if it's stock or gold or Bitcoin there is a possibility of you losing money, the loan is for those who have a lot of money and also collaterals. Think twice before taking a loan.
Investing in any type of course has risks, if you dare to take risks, of course you understand very well in detail the type of investment you are going to make and it is very likely that you will get a profit on your investment. You are right that investing by taking a loan is not a good choice because in investing it is not certain that we can get a profit, maybe we experience a loss and we have to keep paying off our loan. I think if we take out a loan, it's a good idea to use it for the business capital we've been on and we can afford to pay off the loan.
104  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Reckless gambling starts after a win round. on: August 23, 2023, 02:46:42 PM
If you are onto gambling for the first time it's not possible to get addicted to gambling because you haven't tasted what winning feels like, you will be consumed by doubts and uncertainty.

But wait till you have a taste, win some money, that's where you start feeling like there is more if you keep digging, is this not where gambling addiction starts?

We have had a lot of conversations about gambling addiction, but I had the same conversation with someone close yesterday and this was my answer to him.

Do you think its possible to become addicted to gambling when you haven't win a dime or after you win?

I think addiction starts after you win, even if it's just once, that's when you start gambling recklessly and you also start betting higher.

In my opinion someone can be addicted to gambling because they cannot control themselves in playing a gambling game so they continue to play the game all the time and of course this is not very good. If someone plays gambling carelessly, of course this is very bad for him, in gambling we must be able to control ourselves so that we don't experience many big losses.
105  Economy / Economics / Re: Which problem will you choose to solve? on: August 23, 2023, 01:54:00 PM
I will go out and support the poor five times more than I will think about supporting the rich first. This life is about uplifting others who are desperately in need, which I believe the wealthy have no trouble doing because they've already developed a network that can always intercede for them should things start to collapse.

The underprivileged always need someone to lift them up and help them realise their full potential. It is not always necessary to give people money, but rather to place them in an environment where they can be productive. Instead of providing them fish to eat, teach them how to catch fish so they can be self-dependent the next time.
I am very interested in your choice and how to solve your problem, if rich people get a problem, of course they will find it easier to deal with it on their own because they can easily find solutions and of course there are many people closest to them who will help them, very different from poor people when they face a problem they will try to solve it themselves and very few people who will help.
106  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: As a gambler do you have a potential winning amount limit? on: August 22, 2023, 10:43:03 AM
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Yes, you are absolutely right that gambling will depend a lot on our luck in gambling, if we set a target of big or small wins in gambling then this will put pressure on us in gambling so there will be very little chance of us being able to last long in gambling of course this will make us quickly experience defeat. Setting targets in gambling will prevent us from enjoying a gambling game. I also think that by assuming gambling is for fun, this will allow us to enjoy our gambling game.
Of course, if we have a winning target, we can rush to get a win, and that can affect our game. And the pressure will be even greater when we have experienced loss several times, and make us want to win immediately. If we could think of gambling as fun and entertainment, we would not rush into gambling and enjoy every moment. We will also limit the amount of money we use in gambling because we know that winning some money from gambling will never be easy. Instead of having trouble winning the game, we should enjoy the time of gambling, and in that way, we can relax and play enough until we can finally stop gambling on time.
I don't think there is a need to set a winning target if we gamble just for fun, but it would be very good if we have won and we have enjoyed the game it's a good idea for us to take the winnings. Determining the amount of your spending for gambling is, of course, a very difficult thing to do for some people, but if you can do that, of course it's a very good thing. Yes, you are right, playing casually to enjoy the game is a good thing than playing without self-control, of course it will make us finish the game faster and it is very likely that we will experience defeat.
107  Economy / Economics / Re: Any business where today you launch, tomorrow you begin making profit...? on: August 22, 2023, 10:14:31 AM
A business needs capital. How would you be able to got back with the amount you have invested in it within a single day? Before profit comes, you need to first get your initial investment, and that won't happen in a single blink of an eye.
You like to get profits in short period of time,which is not the easy task.Most of the people will spend huge time to buy the particular coin,because they investing their valuable money.Only the good project will give you returns,the scam or fake project will take your money gradually and finally your holding will become a zero value.Many people hold their money in the valuable coin,they need to wait for the profit from such coin.Patience is the key needed for the good profit from your holding money.

Putting a business and making profit from it will take time. You need to undergo a trial and error first to apply specific strategies to make your business grow. There's no shortcut to successful business as you still need to consider lots of things to ensure that your business will work in an specific location, target consumers and people's demand.
If you want to have an assurance of making profit from your business, you need to polish everything first but that doesn't mean that you will not experience hardships and challenges. There's no instant success in building a business as competitions are everywhere but if you put hardwork and dedication, things will surely work.
Yes, you're right, of course it takes time, not just a few days or a few months, to be able to create a business, and even those who have been in business for several years may not necessarily be able to enjoy good results. I have never seen a business that has just been built can get good profits, of course they have to go through every process to get good results.
There's no such thing unless you are just a sidewalk vendor and happened that many people sold your products out which could cover the amount you have used to actualize that particular business such as equipments for you to have quite of a good start.If you gamble then that's possible.But also, that is a different context with their proper procedure. Never chase for a shortcut 'coz it would bring you nowhere.
I think even street vendors need a process in order to get a good profit, such as selecting the type of goods to be sold and many other considerations, of course it takes time, which is not built today, but tomorrow it will immediately make a profit. You are right there is no right shortcut and it will last forever to build a business, in getting good profits of course there will always be a good process and preparation before starting a business.
108  Economy / Speculation / Re: Big surprise in mid-August - Do not panic!!! on: August 21, 2023, 03:05:21 AM
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My hope is only one; avoid panic - just hold your bitcoin and accumulate.
Whoever ever panics about the price of Bitcoin, in my opinion, doesn't understand anything about the crypto market, and he doesn't need to invest in it to keep his emotions in check. If you lack the necessary mental capacity, stay far away from investing in crypto. That's the piece of advice I gave to the newbies. Accumulating bitcoin at this declining price is the best idea for someone who believes in bitcoin and has the patience to do that.

Whatever the current state of the crypto market may be, one thing is for certain. The downturn won't last forever. Focusing on the short term but not the long term can only cause panic.

For those who are just starting out and don't understand the crypto market well, of course they will experience panic, I have felt this way too, but over time this will make us understand that there is no need to panic in situations like this. Your advice is great for those just starting out, if you have a lot in savings now is a good time to buy and hold to profit if the price goes up later.
109  Economy / Economics / Re: Am I a bad person if I manage to avoid taxes? (Hypothetical question) on: August 21, 2023, 02:41:37 AM
In my personal opinion, avoiding taxes is not an illegal act and most people consider this method legal in the eyes of the law. Because in essence we are taking advantage of the loopholes in the rules that exist in the law, but if we practice this method it will have an impact on the income of a country, of course. Although on the other hand, we as tax payers face difficulties in terms of size.

This happens in almost all countries, the large amount of tax deductions greatly affects the income of individuals and business groups, such as companies. But whatever it is, as long as it doesn't violate I think it's legal to use.
Yes, you are right, if we take advantage of loopholes in the law to avoid taxes, it will certainly affect state revenues. As you said, on the other hand, paying taxes also burdens us to meet our needs. In my opinion, if we can't afford to pay taxes, it would be better for us to take advantage of loopholes in the law by not paying them so that we don't burden ourselves and don't violate applicable laws.
110  Economy / Economics / Re: Any business where today you launch, tomorrow you begin making profit...? on: August 20, 2023, 04:23:32 PM
You like to get profits in short period of time,which is not the easy task.Most of the people will spend huge time to buy the particular coin,because they investing their valuable money.Only the good project will give you returns,the scam or fake project will take your money gradually and finally your holding will become a zero value.Many people hold their money in the valuable coin,they need to wait for the profit from such coin.Patience is the key needed for the good profit from your holding money.

Putting a business and making profit from it will take time. You need to undergo a trial and error first to apply specific strategies to make your business grow. There's no shortcut to successful business as you still need to consider lots of things to ensure that your business will work in an specific location, target consumers and people's demand.
If you want to have an assurance of making profit from your business, you need to polish everything first but that doesn't mean that you will not experience hardships and challenges. There's no instant success in building a business as competitions are everywhere but if you put hardwork and dedication, things will surely work.
Yes, you're right, of course it takes time, not just a few days or a few months, to be able to create a business, and even those who have been in business for several years may not necessarily be able to enjoy good results. I have never seen a business that has just been built can get good profits, of course they have to go through every process to get good results.
111  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: As a gambler do you have a potential winning amount limit? on: August 20, 2023, 03:03:58 PM
When I first tried gambling, I had this notion that I could always win a certain amount of money each day. Specifically, I thought I could win around $50 to $100 every day. However, my experience turned out to be quite different. I did win for five consecutive days while playing in an online casino, but it was very difficult for me to win even just $10 in the next few days. This made me realize that gambling should not be considered as a reliable source of income. It should only be done for leisure purposes, and only if you have extra money to spare. After all, we all know that gambling is not always the best way to earn easy money.
well there are some people that proposes a more advanced strategy of making up that losses by doubling their bet until it got even its called martingale and even that isn't sufficient, thats the thing with depending purely on luck, its just very random you could lose a row straight or you can win a row straight no one knows.
also the reason why many people are choosing to bet on something like sports in which they could be sure at what they are betting, they could make thorough analysis in regards of their potential bet and they know beforehand how is the condition of both teams going against each other, I guess it just gives them more edge to win the matches based on their own analysis.
It will never be easy to win gambling, even every day. We will never know how luck will come to us and help us to win even a small victory. So if we have a target of winning, it will be difficult no matter what target of victory we want to achieve because gambling is not a place to make money. And it is true that we should be able to treat gambling as a place of entertainment where we use the money to entertain ourselves, and if we are lucky, we can get the money. But if we are unlucky, we can lose our money in gambling, and when it's lost, well, it's already gone because we'll find it difficult to recover it. Even in sports betting, we can experience defeat because often matches that take place will change in the middle of half-time, making our bets fail to win. So it's better to have fun than to enjoy your time gambling.
Yes, you are absolutely right that gambling will depend a lot on our luck in gambling, if we set a target of big or small wins in gambling then this will put pressure on us in gambling so there will be very little chance of us being able to last long in gambling of course this will make us quickly experience defeat. Setting targets in gambling will prevent us from enjoying a gambling game. I also think that by assuming gambling is for fun, this will allow us to enjoy our gambling game.
112  Economy / Economics / Re: How to avoid over expenses and have discipline on: August 20, 2023, 01:37:15 PM
Isn't it stressful when we spend more than expected, right? especially if we follow a budget, having a smart spending habit is a good way to avoid such situations or events.

1. Make a realistic budget
           In budgeting it is important that we consider everything. It should be realistic and achievable, It cannot be said that the budget is only 20$ for a week for food if you are 8 people who will eat at home. Plan what to eat every day and budget for it. Write down all the ingredients or how much to buy and how much it will cost in pmashae or gasoline if there is a car. Do everything with consideration and do it consistently.
Stop yourself from buying things you don't need, like buying coffee at starbucks when you can just buy 3 in 1 sachet coffee that just tastes like coffee. Because if we cannot prevent such expenses, include them in the budget.

2. Find out what triggers the cost
            It's important that we know this if it's stress, boredom, pressure from friends, need to follow the trend and so on. It is important that we have discipline in these things if you want to avoid overspending. For example, if you're bored, you hang out online shopping at Lazada, Amazon, and others, this habit should be replaced with something more productive, such as cleaning the house and others where you can avoid it and do something good.

3. Break down luxury expenses
             Try to list the things you have spent and separate the luxury and the things you have spent. It is important that you know what is really needed and the word I deserve it.

4. Make the 24 hour rule
             This rule helped me when I was building in this way. Because when I want to buy something, I put it off for 24 hours, and during this time I learn how to assess these things. Usually the excitement we experience disappears immediately after a few hours. You imagine the sacrifices you will make when you accomplish them. Like the small savings you have or sometimes we will even borrow the money we will use here. At least in this way we can avoid impulsive buying or bursts of emotion.

5. Set a budget
            Allocate a limit on expenses, know all areas of expenses from food, rent, electricity, water, shopping and other things related to spending. Once you set all of your spending limits, make sure to follow them and do it because everything will be ignored if you don't do it.

I hope this somehow helped us and the community here on the forum.

Other source:
https://www.incharge.org/financial-literacy/budgeting-saving/how-to-cut-your-expenses/
https://www.mymoneycoach.ca/blog/how-to-stop-spending-money-7-tips.html

Avoiding spending is something that many people really want, but of course this is not an easy thing to do for some people for a variety of reasons, of course, we can't just read it from books, it really takes desire from ourselves and strong determination to be able to do it consistently. I am very interested in how to avoid spending that you have mentioned, this will be very useful for me and I am interested in applying it to myself, of course this will be very useful.
113  Economy / Economics / Re: What are some financial secrets that you know of? on: August 17, 2023, 04:42:45 AM
I dunno if I would class them as secrets but some things I find useful which I guess I could pass off as advice are -

Automating savings, you can set up monthly transfers to your savings account. You can Use cash back credit cards, earn while you spend. Maybe invest in low cost index funds, they often outperform actively managed funds.

Utilise tax advantaged accounts. Maximise 401(k), IRA, & HSA contributions. Always try to pay off high interest debt quickly. It reduces total interest paid. Regularly review your expenses, try to cut unnecessary costs.
Savings is one of the most important thing when it comes to trying to be financially stable, but saving alone is not enough. Not spending Wisely on things that are not necessarily important and spending uncontrollable can make all the time  use in saving money to be effortless. To become rich  or financially stable lot of work to be discipline must be done, spending money on getting too much flashy things can be a limitation of becoming financially stable.
Saving will indeed make us wiser in terms of managing our finances, but this cannot be done by those who have a habit of using their finances uncontrollably so that they choose to use their money only for momentary pleasure by not thinking about investing to make more money, so they can have financial freedom. I totally agree that in the process of becoming rich, it certainly takes discipline to make it easy to become financially stable.
114  Economy / Economics / Re: People don't understand the problem with monetary system. on: August 17, 2023, 03:25:29 AM
Monetary problems, of course not everyone knows, those who have received economics lessons at school or college will understand monetary, the monetary crisis that has occurred in my country and even occurred throughout the world is a complicated problem that is not easy to solve, we as people who actively working, of course, you must always be vigilant with monetary matters, and of course, continue to look for sources of income so you can survive.
Even those who work in the economic field do not all understand the monetary system. If they can understand it well, of course they can make the right policies in making decisions in dealing with the monetary system. A stable and healthy monetary system can support sustainable economic growth, while an inappropriate monetary policy can lead to economic instability. I agree with you that in dealing with the monetary system it is better for us to seek additional income so that we can meet our own needs.
115  Economy / Economics / Re: Would You Consider Adding Bitcoin to Your Retirement Savings on: August 17, 2023, 02:55:29 AM
Although bitcoin is really a good asset and I will definitely add it to my retirement. But I won't put all my retirement assets in bitcoin, I will diversify because nothing is absolutely safe and especially high yielding assets are also high risk. Real estate is something everyone aspires to but owning it is not easy so I think not everyone can afford it. Instead, I think we can also diversify into gold and other precious metals along with bitcoin.
Yup. Bitcoin offers potential big profits but it is also a high risk investment. We can't rely our future to a single high risk investment, we need other investments. I personally will also never put all my investment on Bitcoin only. I will diversify my investments on Lands, Gold, or other investment with lower risks. We must be wise to plan our retirement assets, don't put all of them on a high risk investment. We must think that sometimes we need urgent fresh money, so we must have assets that prices can be quite stable.

Choosing several types of investments is a good thing for those who make investments, of course it will be very profitable, if we only use all assets in one type of investment, this will be harmful to our assets, of course, this is not really what every investor wants. I think that in making an investment we need to leave our savings for unexpected needs, it is not good to invest all of our money so that we don't have money for unexpected needs.
116  Economy / Economics / Re: How can we improve our country's economy by on culture or ecosystem? on: August 16, 2023, 11:38:59 AM
I live in one of the Asian country and I am very much agree and I can relate this with my experience, my parents weren't so educated and they are too busy working to teach me anything about money, I wish the school could teach me about money management, and I think there are many people facing similar issue. After I get my first job, working and earning money was easier for me than managing money, the only thing I know was saving money to my account, nothing about how much can I spend for entertainment, for food , etc. I only learn about those thing and other financial thing from the internet.

Most of us are the same; school doesn't teach us how to hustle and earn money; they just teach us what is written in the book and prepare us to find a job. There is no business or other financial stuff that was taught to us; we need to discover it on our own. We know that we can learn it from the internet, but it is still good if we can also learn or tackle the basics of it in school because that is really one of our goals in life.
I also feel the same way, in my education I have never found the knowledge of making money immediately, when I finish my education it will seem strange that education alone will not be able to do anything to make money and this is a very sad thing, so I have to trying various types of jobs in order to make money.
117  Economy / Economics / Re: New Research found Work from home workers to be less productive on: August 16, 2023, 11:18:43 AM
I work from home and absolutely love it.  Here's the thing, if I do my job well, it doesn't matter if I take a nap during the middle of the day (and I absolutely do sometimes), or if I stop working around 12-1pm on Fridays (which I typically do), as long as I'm getting my job done and it a good manner, my boss doesn't care.  It's nice to work for a job that's like this, as I know some jobs mean there's always work to do when you're clocked in..so I could of course see people that work from home being less productive in a position like this. 

I also work on the weekends sometimes, as well late in to the afternoon..so there are some trade-offs.
It is true that doing work at home will be more productive if we do according to what the boss imposes on his employees, but for bosses who allow their employees to work at home, of course they already know the productivity of their employees at work so there is no doubt for the leadership if their employees do work wherever they like. Doing weekend work I think is a good thing to get extra income for us but this is not done every weekend, of course it will be very boring if done every weekend.
118  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: August 15, 2023, 01:26:09 PM
Sometimes people are risk takers even though they have needs they will pursue their wants one example of it is those people who don't are in the middle to low class and they keep playing gambling even if they can not sustain their living from their perspective to hope to win a large amount but not it always happens in playing gambling always the house wins the game and the result is they didn't manage to hit the jackpot, lose their money and seek for a loan makes them to have debt.
In a game, of course, there are winners and losers, and if you play gambling and lose, then it is not the right solution to take a loan. This will certainly make the problem more complicated. If you have lost a large amount today, it's a good idea to have enough gambling for today, because today is not a lucky day for you, you better use another day to gamble, if you keep pushing for money loans then that will be very difficult detrimental to you.
I just think someone gambles because they need money instead of multiplying money at gambling but when they bet and lose they are looking to borrow money to continue gambling.
Wouldn't it be better if you really need money, you don't need to gamble, but borrow money from a bank or anyone, rather than having to gamble, which is not necessarily lucky to win.
So sometimes it feels strange that a gambler who needs money wants to double his money but instead throws money at gambling and then borrows money to gamble again, or does needing that money just as an excuse to cover up addiction.
But I think it because of greed because if you really need money, you don't need to gamble, it enough to borrow large amounts of money using any collateral, but unfortunately gamblers, when they need money, actually want large amounts of money to get instantly by betting, but don't remember if they need money.
It is very strange for those who want to multiply money through gambling, this will not increase the money that occurs instead they lose money, I agree with you if gamblers need large amounts of money why don't they look for loans and manage these loans well, of course it will be very better than gambling. I think only some gamblers can control themselves in gambling, if they can control themselves in gambling, of course this will minimize losses for gamblers.
119  Economy / Economics / Re: How to developed your capital on: August 15, 2023, 12:44:09 PM


I also agree that we should not underrate any money we have no matter how small. Some people feel that the money they spend on cigarettes, alcohol, snacks, and other wasteful spending is not relevant. But if they calculate how much they have spent on these items, they will be surprised that it would have been enough to invest in Bitcoin.


If you speak like you, you might even stop eating to invest in bitcoin. Spending on alcohol, beer, cigarettes, coffee… all are daily necessities and that's the way to enjoy life. As long as you don't spend too much on them and have a specific plan, I don't see anything wasted. Like me, every morning needs a cup of black coffee to stay awake all day at work, or snacks to recharge for a long day. Or will enjoy a few beers with friends at the weekend after stressful working days. What's wrong with that? We only live once, why should we torture ourselves?
I don't think there is anything wrong with us using our money to spend on our daily needs because we have done our job and we receive wages for our work, so this is not wrong if we spend it on our daily needs. You are right, if we have done the work and received the salary it should not be used in investing if we have not been able to make ends meet.
120  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Healthy mindset to save earnings from gambling on: August 15, 2023, 01:39:49 AM
Yes, I agree with you, everyone should take gambling as an entertaining thing not taking a reliable source of income. Responsible gambling is a thing where gamblers are able to control their emotions, set a limit and they are fully aware of the risk.  Additionally, i also think chasing winning is a dangerous thing, it will make you crazy and you will end up as a gambling addict.  So, i wanna say balancing entertainment with your responsible behavior can help you to avoid the pitfalls of addiction and that's how you could maintain a healthy relationship with gambling.
Everyone has their own reasons for gambling and not everyone can think of gambling as just entertainment. Most of those who come to gambling places expect to get big profits quickly with minimal capital.
Yes, before we enter the world of gambling we should be aware of the risks and the most important thing is to set limits, but i think maybe not many people can do that because it will not be easy when we are already gambling, unconsciously we will enjoy it and feel we have to spend a little more time to be able to win. We will only realize when our money has run out.
Yes, not everyone thinks that gambling is just looking for entertainment in their spare time there are even some people who gamble for profit with minimal capital, as you said. If everyone in gambling can set limits on himself of course they do not do gambling as a place to make money for them but only to have fun in their free time.
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