@Mindrust

20 or 30, yes. I don’t have to count them, i gave you an approximate number because i’ve read it somewhere.  I don’t have to read all over it again because i was already there since the beginning. I already know every detail about this thing. The things that he deleted doesn’t change anything. We’ve all seen them already.

And i am still saying that he never protects or defends this kind of things. And i also know that you know his intentions is good from the beginning. He were trying to do good for turkish section to chose some respected and helpful members. We’re here to learn and improve. We’re not here to throw shades each other.

Unfortunately you just seem very vindictive because this whole thing is absurd. It’s so clear that he is very innocent.
You give someone o negative rating when you directly see them doing those shady merit stuff or saying outloud merit trading/farming is very normal things etc. BUT you can not accuse someone just because he asked to see a proof about those “20 minions”.

Seems like you don’t even realize your position requires you to be transparent and fair. It requires you to think and decide objectively. For now, you look like someone who is searching for reasons to get revenge on someone that you fight just because you don’t share the same perspective.
 
I don’t have any personal problems with you and i know you also a smart guy. But totally disagree with you on this subject.
No one has to be in the same page with you just because you became a DT member. We will always share our own opinion in a free way. This forum is not “ your father’s land “ so you shouldn’t abuse your power.

EDIT. I’m not full of shit. No one has to agree with you. Did you also gave a negative rating the others that opposed that flag? NO.
So it proves that you’re only trying to hunt down Matthias with your obsessive vindictive behaviour.

Good luck with that. I would never count on someone like you. You don’t even know what yourself is doing. You didn’t even come to this thread until Tecshare told that it proves that you know you’re not right about this whole thing. .
Now you are showing us small weird things.

20 or 30. I didn’t count them one by one. I remember the number because i’ve read it somewhere.
I speak this language and be sure i don’t need no one to explain the meaning to me.
Okay if PHI is the admin. Why giving Mati a red because he knows PHI from forum like everyone does in the turkish section. Mati already said that he never joined that group and doesn’t know anything about it.

You delayed it because you were thinking about how to get revenge on him. After few weeks you come up with this joke.

Even a 5 year old person could understand Mati is talking about the election and not defending the PHI. Or he’s not defending the merit trading.

And he is not alone with his statements. This fake rating doesn’t take anything from his good sides. It only shows that you’re a vindictive person who the first thing he does is giving a negative rating to someone you had an argument.

You’re still blaming of those “20” people by saying them PHI’s minions. Lol. It shows how reliable you’re when you still throwing shade without any proof of them.

Be sure i don’t even know PHI in person or his mates. I don’t need to be “someone’s minion” to tell the truth, objectively. I don’t even defend him. PHI is not the subject here.
I did not even vote for anyone in that election. To be honest i don’t even care the elections or merit things. The only thing that i care to use this forum without bothering anyone.

But still my conscience is telling me to step forward and say this whole negative ratings and throwing flags to each other unjustified. Because I am free to tell my own opinion and i don’t have to agree with your broken judgement.

You also were one of the members that i’ve been reading and impressed. Somehow I know you will understand this negative rating is not necessary. I wish now but you seem so stubborn.

Your accusations about Mati is not fair and they don’t reflect the truth. He never defends merit trading or this type of stuff.

It’s crystal clear that he is saying there is no proof for the other accused 30 people. This words are not about PHI.

“No member of the election is in that group” = 30 People

Those 30 people that you’ve suddenly started to blame by posting this” holy shit they all are really merit traders” (or something similar to this). Eventhough that image does not show anything about those other members. It’ shows PHI were texting with someone we don’t even know.

Obviously these words are not about PHı. Mati is talking about the election was clean. He defends the election, not PHI.
He knows the election is clean because he’ve sent a PM almost every single member in the Turkish section and invited them to join. Including you.
Now you’re blaming this guy for nothing eventhough he didn’t do anything wrong by his actions.

The only problem is his behaviour because he cursed you in that talk. He should’ve told his opinion without insult. And you can not give negative ratings just because someone insulted you with the anger in the middle of an argument.

At least, try to calm down and reconsider this whole thing. He clearly doesn’t deserve this.

@Mindrust

Please, read carefully mate. You don’t even listen or you don’t even bother to read properly. You only see what you want to see.

He didn’t say anything about PHI’s action. He was talking generally for other people. And his words are clear and he were only saying this is not a proof for that 30 people.
He said those 30 people don’t related this merit thing as far as he knows them. And he said that he’s never been that kind of groups in his life.


Now you are acting like we said PHI did a great job. Matthias were talking for everyone in the local community that were accused in the thread. You also know that from your heart but you’re just angry because he said bad things to you instead of talking in calm way.

This is the only problem that i saw here. Matthias is a respected and helpful member. He is constantly trying to good things no one can deny that. Smart guy and he has a good heart.
I know the whole thing and i know the whole conversation between you and him or in the related threads. He almost knows every detail about this forum and he never cross the lines.

As i said before, seems like his only fault to curse you in the middle of an argument and questioning your statements. That’s not a reason to give him a negative rating. That’s your personal problems between you and him. You gave him a red just because you’re pissed off and you’re telling him to be man?? Really?

He doesn’t deserve a red trust. There are hundreds of people which suits better for a negative rating. Mati is not one of them.
 
I don’t think so but still I hope you can see the whole thing from another perspective, objectively.

You seem you don’t even know what you are doing. First, you deleted the flag. Now you came to tell you won’t let him go. If you start accusing a bunch of people just because of another one person’s fault of course some people will come to ask you where is the proof for all the people that you’re easily throwing shade? And how do you blame your own people when there is no proof that they ALL are bad guys? Do you think to blame everyone should be that easy?

These people don’t know to read Turkish and it’s easy for you come up with your statement here. But how do you convince the ones who understand the whole conversation between you and him? Because we know you’re out of line by giving red trust and you have some personal problems and anger for Matthias.
Does he defends merit farming? No. Does he says PHI did a good job? No.
The only think he is saying how do you blame another 30 people in the election? Many of them have no idea about the merit conversation and that telegram chanel.
He didn’t say anything about PHI’s action on that thread. He said those 30 people don’t related this merit thing as far as he knows them. And he said that he’s never been that kind of groups in in his life.

Multiple times Mati said he had no idea about this group and he told you at least bring some proof for the other people that you blamed without reason. His statement was very reasonable for a person who reads everything objectively.

Do you think we would blame you just because one of those people that you talked from this forum somehow were talking about to create a group for merit stuff? No. As far as i know, that conversation in that image belongs to one and half year ago.

Matthias wasn’t even the accused person there. Seems like his only fault that defending the justice for irrelevant people that you were accusing in very hostile way. He only told you to bring evidence for the other people that you started to blame so we can believe your argument with a clear conscience, right?

Btw most of us were surprised when you shared your bad opinions about the Turkish community. I mean, who wouldn’t?

Being a DT member does’t mean you can throw negative ratings just because someone didn’t share the same perspective/opinion with you. We don’t have to agree you. We have right to ask questions when there is a need the things to be more clear. Throwing shade is easy.

I hope other DT members are more fair and more reasonable than you. Otherwise this forum would be full of people who give red trusts just because some person cursed them in the middle of an argument and ask questions about their judgement. Lol. It’s a pity.

PS: Hope i also don’t get a red trust or a flag after i dare to disagree with Holy Mindrust.

Who are you exactly bro? Chill. Your jealousy is killing you slowly because you’re the one who talks silly things constantly. Matthias is one of the respected persons in the Turkish local. And Mindrust also deserves the respect from community. But you are totally no one. Let them talk to fix this unjustified rating.

Honestly i really like your positivity. We all tired from complaining for the losts and the bad times of the market. Eventhough i think it’s still a bit early to say that we might see all time high price, i also believe the market will keep growing in the coming weeks.

Actually it’s kind of good that we started to see these type of hopeful topics about the future of the crypto market. Sharing your opinion like that seems a bit speculative, that’s right. But you’re not alone and many people think the same way.
I can’t say that people should start to invest in now, it’s their decision. But i also believe that the market will grow within the next months.

I don’t like to give advice someone about what to do. It’s a huge risk and i wouldn’t want to put myself in that position. People should make their own decisions if they wanna enter the crypto market, this is the healthiest way.

Honestly, i also have the same mentality these days. Why would i use my BTC now? Obviously it’s price will get bigger, there is a high chance for that. For now, it’s better to hold but i should say that it’s also very clear for me one day we will start using it.

That’s true. Crypto market is full of every kind of projects already. Some of them useless, some of them will disappear and only a few of them will rise & shine. The best thing is to make right decisions before creating a portfolio. This market is full of advantages.

There are dozens of people who says this kind of things. Cryptocurrency is still a new thing to the world, it needs to grow more than this first and world needs to adopt it. I don’t understand why people think that it’s gonna disappear. I mean, it’s so early to make this type of predictions.

Geçen günlerde bir ürünün Türkiyedeki içeriğiyle başka bir ülkedeki(sanırım ingiltere) içerik oranları kıyas edilmişti. Güvenilir denen markalar bile bize kötüsünü yediriyor. Hiçbir şey doğal ve sağlıklı değil, bu beslenme koşullarında ne kadar sağlıklı olabiliriz bilemiyorum.

Eline sağlık, bunların bir kısmını daha önceden çoğumuz görsek de bu şekilde derleyip bir araya gelince daha anlamlı oluyor. Meritim olsa vermek isterdim ama maalesef yok

Bir şey söylemeyeyim dedim de imza kampanyasına atlamayan kaç kişi var forumda? Burada hepimiz doğru düzgün bir kampanya bulunca imzaya giriyoruz, o zaman herkes aç köpek mi? Sizinle aynı anda stake.com imzasında vardık, kusura bakma hocam ama günde 79383831973 post kasıyordun. Bunu yapan biri de başkalarına aç köpek diyince baya abes oluyor. Haksızlığa gelemiyorum. Başkasına yargı dağıtmaya çalışmadan önce biraz dönüp kendimize bakalım. Göz var izan var.

I agree with most of the things you said. Many governments are corrupt. On the other hand cryptocurrency provides a freedom despite all of the risks. But i don’t think fiat currencies will be forgotten soon, i mean, it won’t be that easy.

These days everyone knows better about Bitcoin but not everyone does smart moves about it. You are right, it seems like Bitcoin price is a bit risky to invest in today.  Couple weeks ago it would be better to start investing.

Ben de dahil olayım madem Çok beğendim bu konuyu, böyle keyif veren şeyleri özledik forumda. Konu dışı bu vesileyle biraz hareketlenmiş olur hem.

Eskiden de böyle şiirler yazanlar olurdu, bu konu bana onu anımsattı
Kalemder hocam mesajı gayet net vermişsin zaten nedense böyle bir coine gereksizce bağlanıp inat ederek kaybediyoruz zaman zaman.

Bitcoinin son günlerdeki fiyatlanması hızlıydı ancak herkeste bir beklenti oluşturdu. Daha düşük fiyattan alım yapmış olanlar şimdiden karda. Bundan sonra aynı güzelliği altlarda da görebiliriz umarım.