aren't you talking about a limit buy?


I mean, stop buy does exist, but... it's an even more stupid thing to use. And considering the BTC hardly went lower than 10500, I'm pretty sure you're talking about a simple limit buy, which is THE thing to always use (instead of market buys, which is as risky as market sell).

I would also explain why the lighning network is a better solution btw.

Let's pretend crypto is gold. A (yeah, decentralized) bank has gold bars. Gold isn't the best thing to use to pay a loaf of bread.
No one wanna scrape gold bars to get gold powder to pay for the bread.

Instead, you'll use a layer in-between, one that gathers shitloads of tiny transactions & merges them. Meanwhile for big transactions, you could still use the blockchain directly.


Personally I'm not even waiting for a lightning network, I'm waiting for Paypal to feed on my BTC's (well, if BTC ever gets stable, that is), just like it can already feed using my bank account or my credit card, transparently. Paypal won't bother doing BTC transfers for the small things I pay, it can as well transfer in bigger amounts to build reserves.
..just like your exchange doesn't -really- perform real transactions when you buy a BCH, it mostly happens internally, it's just owners swapping.

The reason I'm waiting for Paypal is that I want safety, and I believe the majority of people want safety. Send crypto to the wrong address, you've lost your funds, how fuckin dumb is that? This is seriously not ready for mainstream. People want insurance, they want refunds in case of problems, and they want easy payments. I don't know of any crypto that allows that, ATM, sadly. They are all designed for ultralibertarians who are ready to give up on safety, to hide their money. Perhaps we could have BOTH? Actually I think that the lightning network has a refunding system in its core, btw. We'll see.

There you prove my point. It is THAT volatile.

But be honest, if, like Ver, you scalped a big lot of BCH when it had dipped to a few hundreds, there, I totally undersand why you want BCH to go up even more. Don't be ashamed for that, we're all here to make money.
Personally, if I had a lot of BCH, I would like it to go up but I wouldn't like it to replace BTC, because I do understand that BCH, like all other ALTs, is valued according to the BTC. I would want BOTH to go up.

Why does it have to be a competition, why aren't there Litecoin worshippers out there who want LTC to replace BTC?

So you admit you're a worshipper.

Anyway, what about Bitcoin Gold then?
Or the many upcoming forks? Aren't they all technically better than BCash?

Dude.. The buck you just sent him.. you paid 2 bucks to buy it only 2 days ago.

If you're so cheap that 1 buck counts for you, then you should really keep this in mind.
I don't know where you live, but "using" so volatile money is a bad idea, UNLESS your own country's money is even more volatile, and there aren't many places like that in the world.

There are people who bought pizzas for thousands of bucks, in today's BTC value. Don't you think they regret it? Sure, you'll tell me, they just had to refuel their BTC account after buying their pizza. In that case, they would have had easier buying their pizza in fiat in the first place.

Unless you
1) made your money illegally and really wanna hide it (I'm not even saying this is a bad use for it - this is pretty much what made BTC famous. BUT I do not think that Ver & his sheep are on a crusade to make the BCH the official crypto for the next Silk Road)
2) live in a shitty place where local money sucks (& you don't like USD)
..I see no reason to USE crypto, yet.

Ok, now tell me how Litecoin, Ripple, .. (I won't bother to list them all) are less affordable to use. Meaning: why else did you chose BCH.

Also, have you considered that THE reason BCash is faster/has less fees right now, is that it's much less used? It has like 15x less transactions than BTC, these days (I believe?). But the block size is only twice bigger.

Oh perhaps yes. Perhaps a huge hyperinflation is coming to me. Which is one reason I'm investing in gold or crypto-gold. I still have zero need to pay with it TODAY. And, safe to assume that it's not gonna happen next year either. The BTC still has quite some time to get lightning network, for all I care.

And if it doesn't.. Well.. you know people invest in real gold as well. What do you think of gold's usability? Very hard to buy something using gold. And yet, people don't care, because what's important is its VALUE. Which BCash worshippers have failed to understand, since they want the BTC to go down, not understanding that BCash, like other crypto's, is valued according to the BTC, thus BTC down = BCH down. And it well proved it these last few days, I think.

Care to explain how BCash is "more affordable"?

What would that even mean?
Surely you can't be claiming that "BCash is better because 1 BCH costs 2500, while 1 BTC costs 10x more". Because that's how a child would think.

BCash has shown to be very volatile, even more than BTC & that says a lot. Now THAT is a reason for it not to be a good replacement for fiat.
Got your salary in BCash 2 days ago? Well sorry, it's now worth half of it. The stuff you buy locally where you live, which is valued in fiat, your BCash that you bought 2 days ago, you can now pay 2x less with it. That's not really a good thing for something that aims at becoming e-money.

Once ANY crypto has become widely adopted & will be stable, then we can talk again.

No, I'm against all religions & sects.

That's why I have more trust in BTC investors, they are the first to critisize the BTC, they won't spread lies to defend it.

If BCash worshippers were honest about it, saying that they want you to join them because
a) they own more BCH than BTC & wanna get richer
b) they have been paid for propaganda
c) they own a mining farm
..I'd be ok with that.

But they always evade the real questions. Like, why they chose BCH over the many other coins that have faster transactions/lower fees. Or what is BCH's long-term solution (since increasing block size is only a very short-term one) to cope with demand.


BTC? I have a BTC "lost in transaction" for 2 days now (but we all know why: miners spamming network). Does that mean I should hate the BTC? No. It's still way more usable than real gold, and that's exactly what it is for me. I have zero use for crypto to pay small things daily, I live in the first world, I already have cards for that. They are fast & most importantly, unlike any crypto, safe. Because my money has my name on it.
Plus, I don't wanna pay a can of Coke 200 bucks, which is pretty much what I would be doing if I was paying with BTC, judging by BTC's price next year.

If I was living in Venezuela, yeah, I'd probably go for crypto, for daily use. And I would chose neither BTC nor BCH. LTC perhaps? But anyway, I have zero need for that, I'm not hiding money, I pay my taxes, that's probably why.

I still believe he was insulting you, though.


Tell me what you'd be ready to do for like 1 BCH. Like, make BTC online propaganda for like 6 months?

Back to this old thread, stop losses stroke again, you can see IOTA's sold for like 1USD, as well as other coins on Bitfinex. Sadly I removed my orders a day before, to use my cash

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Joke aside, when you see such beggars happy being donated 1 buck (I'd be him I'd feel insulted), you can imagine the army that the BCash propaganda program (https://thebitcoincash.fund) can hire for cheap.

I was doing some BTC arbitrage on Bitstamp, where the EUR/USD prices were pretty different. Very safe thing to do in moments like these, but I noticed an even safer thing to do:

if you take a look at the EUR/USD trading pair on Bitstamp, you'll see a big spike up to 1.4. That means some lucky ones sold their EUR for above 1.4 USD... you can't beat that.

Who puts a market buy on a EUR/USD pair, though...

No one is saying that BTC transactions are fast & cheap. We're saying that BCH is only fast & cheap now because it's not used. It's in no way ready for mainstream adoption, and the whole system isn't. IF being a faster & cheaper form of currency TODAY is important to you, then yeah BCH is useful, but there better ALTs for this job already. Like, Litecoin. And others.
IF you're concerned about the far future, BCH, even by enlarging blocks over & over, will never scale to cope with demand, a demand similar to the one of your VISA card. Nor will BTC. And it doesn't matter, because they aren't currencies, they are digital gold.

If you're really using the BCH today, as a currency, consider that you just bought a $500 pizza, judging by the end-2018 value of what you paid for it. That's just dumb. It's only not dumb if you buy BCH again, using fiat, right after you paid for your pizza. You may as well have paid for your pizza in fiat in the first place. Either way, you're dumb. But let's face it, the bunch of sheep following Roger, aren't dumb, they're just liars. Which is lame, because everyone would understand & be ok with the fact they wanna get richer - we're all here for that same reason. They don't have to lie about it, just say it, they want BCH to take over BTC, because they own more BCH than BTC. They don't have to make out a story around it.

Let's also remind that the other co-founder of Bitcoin.com, Roger Ver, the judas who stole Bitcoin's name in various fashions, admitted that he wouldn't sell all his BTC for BCH, acknowledging the BTC's value, and that it's what it is, a value.

The reason he want BCH to take over, is that he bought a massive amount of BCH's when it was near 200, and now stupid sheeps are helping make him 20x richer.

It does. Bitcoin needs more than "increasing block size" to be ready for mainstream (but I don't think it needs to), but by thousands, not just 8 like with BCH blocks. And BTC is slow because of miners manipulation.

Those buying walls in BCH/USD & BCH/BTC on Bitstamp... what kind of idiot falls for that?

Lame as fuck, they go away as soon as the BCH goes down a little.
They don't even pretend & spread their fake walls, there's a straight wall of like 1700BCH... in front of a smooth selling slope at the bottom.. and yet it's not moving, so apparently they aren't all idiots. They see the november dump coming on their heads again, I'm pretty sure there are a lot of stop losses in there.

That's on Bitstamp where the BCH was newly added, so no big selling walls there yet. Most likely it won't move because on other exchanges, all the idiots who bought right before the dump last time, are now getting their money back.

I didn't understand the diff between X8X & X8C nor how they relate but anyway...

...am I right concluding that this is some kind of multi-world-values version of tether?

Basically, is this gonna give Bitstamp its own tether, in a more trustful way?
If so, that sounds good. Especially if it can also avoid problems in the future if taxation in europe clarifies & any convertion to "real" fiat starts being a problem.

But what for?

Ver & his buddies sure tried to pump the BCH, but as for others, they have zero interest in making the BTC go anywhere but up.

Manipulating it down to buy more isn't their best interest either, if only 1000 BTC owners were left, the BTC would have no more value. For those who already own a lot of BTC, their best interest is the BTC going up.

That seems high, but if that's true, there's your answer.
1% of the world is A LOT, it's normal that it's now worth so much more than the few cents when only 100 people cared about it.