No because I haven't found their discord listed anywhere; link?

Excellent! Myself, I received payment for the first about 13 coins I mined, then payments stopped. I stopped mining when my balance was around 34, stopped and made several attempts to contact them through their official thread here (I can't use Telegram, and that is the only contact option they provide). Had several separate conversations with them in that thread that all said either "use Telegram" or asked for info, which I provided, and then nothing. Crickets. PMed the guy I was talking with, even emailed him at the email in his profile, nothing. It's now been three weeks and that balance is still in their pool, so I decided to just give up on that coin. I hope you do well with it, sincerely, and I even wish them well, I don't want anyone to be scammed or lose out, and I still don't think they're a scam pool or it's a scam coin, but that level of lack of effort to work with people who have problems using their pool is just astounding to me, so I have no interest in that pool or their coin.

I have zero confidence if their official pool is any indication.

Ok, two things here:

!) what money? The electricity? Because if you sell the miner you have a limited amount of funds to buy coins, and no ability to mine them later. If you keep the miner to mine the coin later, then turning it off now makes no sense unless you aren't sure it will be profitable later.

2) I don't think you understand. If you mine 1 coin at a loss right now, and later that coin triples, if you held it you actually mined it at a profit, not a loss (plus your actual earnings, in the altcoin, will be higher now, since the difficulty will increase/rewards will decrease). It's only mined at a loss if you sell it before it gains value. So if you TRULY BELIEVE that a coin will eventually grow in value, turning off a miner makes little sense.

Sure, but that's not what he/she suggested. The original post said unplug and wait until it has "its moment". Which mathematically makes no sense if you are sure that moment is coming (unless, again, you are selling daily).

Nah. I mine for holding, and I don't see much of a future in Sumo honestly. Plus ETN is a better profit atm.

No offense, but if that's the case then in future I suggest researching your pools better. I don't use their pool personally, but I do use some smaller ones and that's just how they work.

That's a far more general mining analysis. This thread is just specifically about what works and doesn't with the Z9. You'd have a lot more luck searching for that in the forum overall and, if nothing comes up (though I'll bet tons of threads do), starting a separate one/doing your own comparisons.

Also as a note--if you 100% believe this (that Bytom will be 10x in 2 months), unplugging your machine right now makes 0 sense (unless you are instantly converting to another coin or cash).

That response has nothing to do with what he/she said.

That one I am personally. Been trying for a couple weeks to get them to pay out, there's been a balance stuck for some reason. I can't use Telegram, which is the only real response I am getting from them ("contact us on telegram"). But if you guys are being paid out currently I'll remove the note and put it back on the main list, it may just be a specific case problem and not an overall one.

And I have replied multiple times that I cannot use Telegram.

EDIT TO UPDATE: I was finally able to get hold of someone in the Discord channel. Seems to be an isolated problem that nobody knows the cause of or how to fix, so they paid me the amount outstanding.

You're not going to get that long. The difficulty takes a bit of time to adjust to sudden increases and decreases in hashrates. It'll likely settle to around $6-8 unless the coin value jumps, and then lower when the next batch ships.

Fairhash across the board currently (ETN, Karbo, and Bytecoin).

Because some of us aren't, and the pool doesn't reply to email, private messages, or even messages on this thread (other than to say "I can help you" and then not respond). It may just be lack of time, I wouldn't go so far as to say scam, but since I've had funds sitting in their pool for more than two weeks now, mentioned it several times here, email, and private messages, and the only response I seem to get is "Use Telegram" (an app that has documented security concerns and I am unable to use) or "I can help you" and then no reply to any form of communication, and this IS the official pool of the coin it's at the very least a bit frustrating and not particularly confidence building in the future of it...

As far as I can tell this is not a scam (though the owner MAY want to choose a different name for the pool, the old Powermining was definitely a scam and shut down by the SEC). Mining in a small pool has a different risk/reward than a larger pool, you should always research stats and pool size before joining one. From what I can tell, you were paid fairly; if you think otherwise perhaps start a discussion in the powermining thread, you'll likely get a much quicker response.

ZCL has no official dev team currently, which means any fork is unofficial and dubious. It's still being traded so it's safe enough to mine now, I suppose, but personally unless someone officially takes over the project I would steer clear for long term (also the former devs have stated on their Twitter that any forks right now shouldn't be considered legit).

https://twitter.com/zclassiccoin?lang=en

However, forking into a whole new coin is...intriguing. Will be keeping an eye on this, thanks for sharing the link.

To be fair, it WAS a gamble from the get go. Unless they knew the coin would tank (which, keep in mind, ALL crypto is pretty low at the moment) and/or they knew that GPUs were capable of more and would eventually outpace the miner, they didn't actually do anything wrong.

Gambling on a new machine designed for one specific (and NEW) coin is, well, a gamble. You don't get pissed at the casino when you roll craps, unless they loaded the dice.

I can verify that both Zhash Pro and Suprnova's ZEN pools work fine if MPH isn't yet...

GENERALLY speaking, if one equihash coin in a pool is working with the Z9, most likely all of them are. However, I'm only adding ones that have been confirmed in this thread.