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101  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: risk in hodling and trading strategy on: June 12, 2018, 09:16:23 PM
Ive seen many times on this forum statements like:
"trading is risky, holding is safer"
"when you are hodling you are not making that much mistakes"
"in trading there are much more possibilities to loose money"
"if you would buy ether for 1$ look where you could be now"
"Hodler is not affected by whales making pump and dump"

Lets discuss then how does investing time goes with risk taken (lets discuss only about risk).

Hodler strategy risk:

Hodler is buying coins by fundamental (whitepaper, team, code, hype, being unique in specific segment) analysis for very long period. Hodling is a strategy very often sugested for newbies in cryptos (when you are newbie than buy good coins and sell on profit after years - I heard it thousands time). What can possibly go wrong?

1- whitepaper is just a document with words. It can be copierd and change a little. Faked. I can create myown whitepaper in which ill write that tommorow ill be on mt everest.
2-team can be faked with fake twitter account with bought fallowers
3- code - who of us can check if code is ok? How many of currencies have working code now? Most of them are just concept without working product jet.
4- hype can be bought.
5- beeing uniqe dasnt give you certainty of beeing uniqe forever. 1 month after your investment there can be new ICO with better team, bought hype and with working product delivered faster.
6- you are newbie and you did fundamential analys wrong or didnt do at all just jump after hype or because someone said that its great investment
7- there are 1600 coins. More than 1400 wont survive next few years because they are not neseesary. Your decision must be precised and full of luck

What if any of above will happend? Your investment will contiously goes to 0. And if you are hodler you will never sell until there will be nothing to sell. When you are buying with hodler strategy you are risking 100% of your investment. I dont think there is more risky way.

Trader

Good trader have loved coins that he checked fundametaly and trade on them. He is trying to buy low and sell high. When trade is not going how he planned it he sells. He dont w8 for coin to hit bottom to panic sell, he try to sell on the rise. His risk is set by him by stoplos which is set in his trading strategy.  And it depends on time period he is investing in and expected profits. He dont fallow pump and dump.

Time period:

When trader see good buy oportunity on 1d candles he has to set stoploss lower, he takes bigger risk then but possible profit is bigger.
When he see oportunity on 5 min candle he can set stoploss even 0,5% under buy point risking only 0,5% of his investment.

Trader is taking known risk each time he enters trade and this risk i related to expected profits. When trades are not going well he can stop trading, lock money into bitcoin or usd and change strategy. Hodler takes unknows risk - up to 100% - for unknown profit. With hope that his analysis was good and data wasnt faked. He also dont have chance to learn investing becouse after first buy decision there is only hodl



I believe that at this point you should only trade short-term by day, with a market that is constantly volatile and difficult to predict as the present time the trade success is very difficult. The market is bearish in the long run, so your long-term investment risk will be very high and very heavy losses if the transaction fails.
102  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin price prediction & possible reversal times (Updated) on: June 12, 2018, 09:06:29 PM
Hello All

this Topic will be updated whenever i see something on charts worth saying
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BTC/USD

weekly & daily upcoming movement
** this predication was on 18 March, that it will reverse from 7655 (here i used the price not the reverse time, i bought from a good support and didn't wait the reversal time on April 1st)


**TP means Take Profit=Target
** Vertical line on April 1st
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it's started already moving up targeting first Daily TP on 9775, the expected movement that it's going to achieve the daily TP1 then start moving sideways (tending to go down but it will not break the support at 8620)
then on the reversal time (April 1st) it will go up again targeting the daily TP2 10904 & Weekly TP1 12460

Good luck to you All

You can see that bitocin prices continue to fall today, while bitcoin prices are at $ 6700 and are still on the decline, bitcoin adjustment has made altcoin fall, according to my analysis the price Bitcoin will probably be about $ 6000 or even $ 4000. That's why I think you have to be very cautious in your investment decision.
103  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you think its the right time to sell Bitcoin ? on: June 11, 2018, 11:55:34 PM
Do you think it will be the best time to sell as there are two kind of speculations one says the value of bitcoin will reach $20,000 by 2018 and there are also speculations that the bitcoin might go through a dump in upcoming days but i know we cannot believe into random predictions by random users due to the volatility of bitcoin but i need some suggestions whether to hold on to bitcoin or sell it out and invest some of it into altcoins and then wait for the price drop to reinvest into bitcoin which i am not sure will happen or not.
The market is showing signs of bitcoin gas price is at $ 6800, I think you should sell bitcoin at this time to be able to minimize the risk. The market is bearish in the long term, so you should trade short-term by day to be able to earn a profit safely, according to my analysis, the bitcoin price will still be about $ 6000 .
104  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is it a good time to start buying bitcoins? on: June 11, 2018, 11:47:54 PM
Im a newbie both in this forum and the cryptocurrency subject, so I had been reading a lot and studying in the last couple weeks.But I still have some doubts. I always see people saying that there is a bubble in the bitcoin market and that there are many people who own big ammounts of bitcoins and can manipulate the market, so i dont know if now its a good time for a person who doesnt own any bitcoins yet to start buying then (i planned to hold them for a long time, not trading beetwenn exchanges) or if i should wait more. I also see fear about corrections and dont know well how those work and if they have an specific time to happen. Anyway, sorry for my bad english and thank you for the replies, even though I know im te only one responsable for my money.
I believe that this time is not suitable for you to buy bitcoin, you can see that bitcoin has been falling sharply over the past few days and there is no specific recovery mark, Success at the moment is very difficult. According to my analysis, the price of bitcoin will continue to fall sharply to reach $ 6000 in the coming days.
105  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is worth buying coins under $1? on: June 11, 2018, 11:42:05 PM
What's your opinion on buying new emerging coins that are not yet on top and cost less than 1 dollar?
How do you decide whether they have potential to grow or not?
I believe you can start trading at this time, you can see that bitcoin prices have been continuously decreasing in recent days and there are no signs of recovery, the market is constantly fluctuating. And it's hard to guess so you should trade short term by day, do not invest long term, bitcoin price cut to $ 6800 and still light.
106  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Minimum coin to begin trading? on: June 11, 2018, 11:36:02 PM
I was wondering what's minimum / ideal amount of BTC or ETH I should have in order to start trading activity

If you have any idea or just want to share your first experience in crypto trading, feel free to write them bolow
Bitcoin prices have been falling sharply over the past few days, and you may find that bitcoins are showing signs of recovery today, which is why the latcoin is recovering. So now you can start trading, with a minimum capital of $ 100 you can earn a few percent profit a day. Hy always has a specific commercial plan and adhere to them.
107  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: best coin for long term investing on: June 11, 2018, 11:31:14 PM
please tell which is best coin for long term investments
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I believe that at this time you should not invest in long-term, you can see that bitcoin prices are constantly decreasing in the past days and there are no signs of recovery, so to be able to Success at this time is very difficult. With a market that has no peaks and no bottom, long term investment risk is high, you should consider that.
108  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin In Depth Analysis June 12 on: June 11, 2018, 11:18:50 PM
Bitcoin Daily Update.
Sideways movement after the high volatility move yesterday.

Resistances & Supports.
Resistances - ​Same levels as yesterday.
A bounce here would set our sights on an intermediate resistance at $7.0k created by the previous low.

Should price break $7k we will look at the resistance from $7.7-7.9k as our next major target.

Supports  - Same levels as yesterday.
The next support zone is derived from the previous local bottom at $6.7-6.4k. This zone also lines up with a fib level drawn all the way back from the correction to $3k.

A break below $6.4k will likely see price fall to new lows. A very strong support zone for this scenario would be at $5.8-5.5k.

Longterm, the previous top at $5k is an obvious buy level, with added support down below it to $4.7k.

Ichimoku Cloud.
The 1H cloud is now showing a tenkan kijun disequilibrium, which will likely result in a reactionary move, causing these two indicators to be closer to one another. In this case this move would be to the upside, giving the probability of a retrace upwards added weight.

Oscillators.
What we do see on the 1H RSI is a hidden bearish divergence, which suggests continued downside. Although, this is a lower time frame divergence and nothing that would cause an extreme move.

 
Conclusion
Just as low volatility precedes high volatility, the reverse can be said as well. We see that occurring at the moment as price rests following the high energy move we saw yesterday. It is likely we see a retrace (bounce) upwards to stabilize the price action and capture any missed volatility from the large liquidation event yesterday which left a gap in market structure.


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Web: boomerangcapital.org
The market has been struggling hard for the past few days, you can see that bitcoin prices are beginning to recover slightly and that has made altcoin a very strong recovery. At present, bitcoin prices are at $ 6800 and are still rising slightly, according to my analysis. This is just a correction before the bitcoin reduction.
109  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: risk in hodling and trading strategy on: June 11, 2018, 11:11:00 PM
Ive seen many times on this forum statements like:
"trading is risky, holding is safer"
"when you are hodling you are not making that much mistakes"
"in trading there are much more possibilities to loose money"
"if you would buy ether for 1$ look where you could be now"
"Hodler is not affected by whales making pump and dump"

Lets discuss then how does investing time goes with risk taken (lets discuss only about risk).

Hodler strategy risk:

Hodler is buying coins by fundamental (whitepaper, team, code, hype, being unique in specific segment) analysis for very long period. Hodling is a strategy very often sugested for newbies in cryptos (when you are newbie than buy good coins and sell on profit after years - I heard it thousands time). What can possibly go wrong?

1- whitepaper is just a document with words. It can be copierd and change a little. Faked. I can create myown whitepaper in which ill write that tommorow ill be on mt everest.
2-team can be faked with fake twitter account with bought fallowers
3- code - who of us can check if code is ok? How many of currencies have working code now? Most of them are just concept without working product jet.
4- hype can be bought.
5- beeing uniqe dasnt give you certainty of beeing uniqe forever. 1 month after your investment there can be new ICO with better team, bought hype and with working product delivered faster.
6- you are newbie and you did fundamential analys wrong or didnt do at all just jump after hype or because someone said that its great investment
7- there are 1600 coins. More than 1400 wont survive next few years because they are not neseesary. Your decision must be precised and full of luck

What if any of above will happend? Your investment will contiously goes to 0. And if you are hodler you will never sell until there will be nothing to sell. When you are buying with hodler strategy you are risking 100% of your investment. I dont think there is more risky way.

Trader

Good trader have loved coins that he checked fundametaly and trade on them. He is trying to buy low and sell high. When trade is not going how he planned it he sells. He dont w8 for coin to hit bottom to panic sell, he try to sell on the rise. His risk is set by him by stoplos which is set in his trading strategy.  And it depends on time period he is investing in and expected profits. He dont fallow pump and dump.

Time period:

When trader see good buy oportunity on 1d candles he has to set stoploss lower, he takes bigger risk then but possible profit is bigger.
When he see oportunity on 5 min candle he can set stoploss even 0,5% under buy point risking only 0,5% of his investment.

Trader is taking known risk each time he enters trade and this risk i related to expected profits. When trades are not going well he can stop trading, lock money into bitcoin or usd and change strategy. Hodler takes unknows risk - up to 100% - for unknown profit. With hope that his analysis was good and data wasnt faked. He also dont have chance to learn investing becouse after first buy decision there is only hodl



You can see that with a market that is unstable and unpredictable, it is very difficult to predict the success of a commercial operation. The market is constantly changing so you should only trade shortly. , do not keep any coin long. Bitcoin prices are in a downward trend in the long term so they will likely fall sharply in the coming days, which will cause the altcoin to fall further.
110  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What Does Day Trading Means? on: June 11, 2018, 11:05:25 PM
Getting a little bit confuse here. What Does it means by day trading and are any advantages and disadvantages in day trading. Thanks
I think that with a market that is constantly fluctuating and it is hard to predict how successful the trade is today, you may find that day-to-day trading is the best option. a wall like that. It will help you minimize risk and maximize profits. The wall is constantly changing and bitcoin knitting prices continue to fall sharply, you should make specific plans when trading.
111  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin the best Long-term Hold? on: May 26, 2018, 11:37:20 PM
I have been in the market for awhile, and always hear the same mantra about trading to hold more Bitcoin and not Fiat.  I bought into the same mentality for a long time, but I'm changing my tune.  In almost every industry, first generation leaders are replaced by competition.  From Sears, Kmart, Nokia, Motorola, Yahoo, MySpace, etc.  Although Bitcoin is the current crypto reserve currency, I think that its dominance is threatened by ALT coins with faster, cheaper transactions and greater scalability.  What do you think?  Is it smart to hold Bitcoin as a long-term investment, or are there better choices among the ALT coins like Ethereum or Litecoin?
I think that at this point it is not possible to determine whether or not to buy the bitcoin, you can see that bitcoin prices in recent days have been flat and there are no specific signs, so To be able to trade successfully at this moment is very difficult. Long term, bitcoin is in a bear market because the risk is very high and you will be able to lose if the market falls into crisis.
112  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Altcoin trading on: May 26, 2018, 11:30:17 PM
I am a newbie to BTC field.I have little little bit of BTC amount(around $14).Is it enough to trading altcoins.IF it is what are the sutable altcoins
I believe that this time is very suitable for you to trade jaltcoin, you can see that bitcoin prices in recent days are very stable and no signs of increase or decrease suddenly. So it's a great time to trade altcoin, plan a specific deal and find a coin that is not yet pump to invest, always stay tuned and ready to cut when needed.
113  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I lost 10000$ in trading, what should I do? on: May 26, 2018, 11:24:01 PM
Hi, I am a crypto-hamster and bought bitcoin when it cost 17,000 and decided to trade on the Bitfinex exchange withe margin.
In this business I was not experienced, so I followed the advice of different traders and their signals.
In the end I lost 10 thousand dollars when bitcoin fell to 6k , but it was money that I was ready to lose, i.e. free.
Now I do not have the desire to trade, but I want to earn money on crypto currency, because it's interesting and I believe that the future is for the crypto currency.
Now I want to try to make money on bounty programs.
And I want to ask you advice in this difficult matter. Where to start, and is it profitable at all?
With a constantly volatile and unpredictable market, I think that if you trade without a specific plan and are willing to cut losses then you will lose a lot of money and losses. very big. The market is in a bear market so the trade will be very difficult, bitocin prices will be able to fall deeply at any time and you can not predict.
114  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading or not? on: May 25, 2018, 11:47:53 PM
If I lost most of my capital in one coin, I will hold the first to coin it up again, whether it can be called trading or not?
Give your opinion Smiley
I think you can start to buy bitcoin at the moment, you can see that bitcoin prices are decreasing steadily today and according to the sources i get the bitcoin price is accrued. A strong convergence, so you can buy bitcoin at this point in time to minimize high leverage. Bitcoin prices will probably rise sharply in the coming days.
115  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is Hovering Around $10k on: May 20, 2018, 06:33:49 PM
The unsuccessful attempt leaves a small hope for a second growth and a break through the psychologically important level.

Read Bokka Crypto Technical Analysis BTC/USD 10.05.18: https://bokka.com/cryptocurrency-news/bitcoin-is-hovering-around-10k/
Now that you can see that bitcoin prices have fallen sharply and are well below the $ 1000 mark, which is correcting at $ 8000, my bitcoin price will probably fall further and may hit $ 7400 later. new bounce back. So I think that at this moment, we should sell bitcoin and wait to be able to buy bitcoin at a better price.
116  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is this a good time to start buying bitcoin or should i wait? on: May 20, 2018, 05:11:58 PM
Hi, a friend told me that this is the best time to start buying btc because it's price is dropping, but do you think i should wait and see if it keeps going down? I only have a small amount of money to invest. Thanks for your help, I'm new to this world
The market today has some signs of recovery in the short term, bitcoin prices have rebounded and broke the $ 8300 mark, according to my analysis, the bitcoin price may reach $ 9000 today. So you can buy bitcoin at this time so you can trade in the short term, the market in recent days is constantly fluctuating and difficult to kick, so you must have a specific commercial plan to minimize the risk.
117  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Suggestion for trading on: May 20, 2018, 04:30:30 PM
do you have suggestions , how to avoid mistakes in trading and take less risk ?
and what need to learn for be a good trader ?
You can see that the market has been fluctuating continuously over the years and it is hard to predict, bitcoin prices are constantly adjusting in recent days and this has caused altcoin not recovered soon. According to my analysis, the bitcoin price may fall to $ 7600 then increase long term, so you can wait until then to buy Bitcoin.
118  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT MARKET NOW on: May 20, 2018, 11:11:01 AM
now btc and btc grow up from bottom :btc 6800usd and eth 375 usd,do you think this is below limit and support line for eth and btc??btc pass line resistance 7200 and 7500 usd;eth pass line resistance 400 and 420 usd,btc increase more 10% and eth more 30% from bottom,liquidity seem higher normal days,everyone start buy more coin,the whole market grow up in suspect of evevryone? do you think trend down is stopped?trend recovery is avaible?i hope from now the market will strong grow up
You can see that the market is showing signs of recovery in the short term, so at this point abnj nen trade bitcoin and altcoin. Market capitalization is showing signs of weakness so you can be confident that bitocin prices will be able to hold on today. According to analysts, bitcoin prices will probably hit $ 8600 before falling back.
119  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Altcoin trading on: May 20, 2018, 10:43:43 AM
I am a newbie to BTC field.I have little little bit of BTC amount(around $14).Is it enough to trading altcoins.IF it is what are the sutable altcoins
I believe you should not trade altcoin at this point, you can see that altcoin prices are constantly falling sharply in recent days due to bitcoin prices are constantly fluctuating. So the altcoin trade at this time of risk will be very high, I believe in the coming days there will be another deep drop to drown the altcoin for shark aggregates altcoin.
120  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: MARGIN - Yes or NO on: May 20, 2018, 10:33:09 AM
if you to Italy, lately many players margin. and some of you earn enough from margin, of course as many people earn it a series of those who a well Dua drag and swing desired "make money an easy way". when the swarm chicken to enough, the swarm admin appear. and then yesterday if you that may notice BTC 1 shot beartrap from 7160 to 6620 ... more St. said this counter the other fully type BTC will down or something ... and a lot of fish the short when think BTC down. then had 1 shot fly ngút heaven from 6730 to 8000 and 1 series fish the short burned account except he experts ate long soaked yesterday. financial markets are unpredictable so. 1 in the game financial created to the tycoon, whales get our money, rotation repeated over and over again, all playground this past playground other. we earn money in the labor of US and they paid (macro) and they want US to submissive them by stripped of money in the pocket we should playgrounds created is so. statistics show only 5% people earn money from the financial markets. you wondering that you see a lot of people cum money isn't yet? is this you don't know when they are still in the rotation of finance, they still had lost money for the money and their property still and coming out in the market. return to the market crypto it always compliance rule of it that anyone know but everyone ignore: "alcoin fly => shark profits from alcoin to BTC => prices BTC up to shark profits from BTC about US $ => shark floating market then drowned price pests and help them collection is 1 bunch BTC and alcoin cheap to prepare for 1 new cycle. shark it'd pressed dead investors have market participants from time before and catch you have to leave the market for the time now you have experience was aware of the difficulty of the market and will not easy to do meat you again, it will drowned market to make you boredom and out of all go after 1 time market will re-recovery and will have the litter Fry new White paper step into the market to hear a private BTC beyond the top of the old, people who BTC, House BTC so back 1 generation swing peak tangle prepare shark slaughter.": Quote of uncle Nguyen Germany. who play big fish eat fish baby will understand Smiley fish to have fish louder, fish baby fish baby Moreover do also need to have that way. invest in itself is the investment never lost. don't play fundamentalist a Dua fomo again you. as for the other hand that at the focus on but things would longevity over time it is the good stuff and useful always exist because it worth it will definitely be maintained. if out about the potential of blockchain then you will understand what I want to say is that what. it is the future that you need serious thought to come
I think you should not hit MARGIN at this point, you can see that the market in recent days is constantly fluctuating and difficult to guess, so in order to successfully trade you need to have Identify and analyze accurately. MARGIN can bring you very high profits but the risk that it brings is very large, you can be divided 10 to 100 times your property.
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