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101  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Barang apa yg sudah kalian beli dari hasil Bitcoin??? on: May 09, 2017, 11:20:36 AM
suvernir dari zaman jahiliyah  Grin Grin Grin

102  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 【Bitcoin Debit Card UQUID】 No ID Required |Multi Cards Buy Supported | 0% Fees on: May 06, 2017, 04:41:30 PM
sup uquid  Grin

yesterday i tried to buy some games from humblebundle

but when i hit paypal button, i got:


An error occurred while processing your request
ref bla bla bla


i try again at least three time, different games/bundles, same error

what's that even mean??

paypal error or visa?

hello
did you load money from your uquid wallet into your card ?
https://uquid.com/blog/2016/11/how-to-make-verify-your-paypal-account-with-virtual-debit-card
please check this guide

Regard


but i already using that card couple times with paypal.

and yes my card have balance at least $10 ish.

maybe i need to check my paypal later.

thx anyway
103  Economy / Exchanges / Re: 【Bitcoin Debit Card UQUID】 No ID Required |Multi Cards Buy Supported | 0% Fees on: May 06, 2017, 03:53:12 PM
sup uquid  Grin

yesterday i tried to buy some games from humblebundle

but when i hit paypal button, i got:


An error occurred while processing your request
ref bla bla bla


i try again at least three time, different games/bundles, same error

what's that even mean??

paypal error or visa?
104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 06, 2017, 03:27:25 PM
How do I open the distribution chatbot link without a browser?

Clicking the link does not work for me. Nothing happens.

copy trans bot link, remove byteball:

just for example, dont copy this post. check https://byteball.org/


byteball:A2WMb6JEIrMhxVk+I0gIIW1vmM3ToKoLkNF8TqUV5UvX@byteball.org/bb#0000
to
A2WMb6JEIrMhxVk+I0gIIW1vmM3ToKoLkNF8TqUV5UvX@byteball.org/bb#0000



then go to chat, add new device, accept invitation from other device. copy n paste done.
105  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Apa Altcoin Yang Akan Dibeli di Tahun 2017 on: May 06, 2017, 01:19:43 PM
Yang berpotensi

ETH jelas tambah kuat karena banyak proyek yang make, entah jika suatu saat ada sub proyek yang nge scam secara kadang ico cuman berdasarkan janji2 doang dan whitepaper yang meyakinkan tanpa ada prototype yang jelas.

LTC mungkin bisa meroket terus apalagi kalo smart contractnya berhasil diimplementasikan.

NEM (XEM) walaupun supplynya gede banget ada kemungkinan naik juga karena mereka berhasil menggandeng bisnis dari jepang.

WAVES dan LISK, simplenya sih "mirip" si ETH cuman masih belum jelas berita baik apa yang bisa meroketkan mereka.

BYTEBALL dan IOTA, bukan blockchain tapi DAG, beda tech. karena beda juga bisa punya potensi untuk meroket.

ARDOR (NXT versi 2)

dll yang ga gw ikuti satu persatu  Grin Grin Grin


Yang mungkin comeback

BITSHARES sebenarnya proyek ini bagus, cuman sayangnya ketiban sial terus. kalo ada berita bagus mungkin bisa kembali dari keterpurukan.  Grin
sekarang ini harganya masih pump doang, mengikuti semua alt lain jadi hati2  Grin


Yang harus dihindari (versi gw)

DASH premine/quick mining nya ajib benar, si dev punya banyak, hebatnya si dev sanggup menyakinkan orang dan punya tim marketing yang ajib juga.

RIPPLE premine 100%, sebagian besar dipegang si dev. mereka dengan seenaknya mengubah supply total supaya peringkatnya terus bertahan teratas. tentu saja punya tim marketing juga.

dll lah  Grin Grin Grin
106  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple releases 333 million more Tokens on: May 06, 2017, 12:26:53 PM
geez...  Grin Grin Grin

someone need to fix that stupid coinmarketcap



it's effing annoying to see rnipple on #3  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
107  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: WAAH Beta - June 7 - Join us for the Airdrop Now. on: May 06, 2017, 11:50:25 AM
Am I the only one reading the 7 pages to get all infos and avoiding asking useless questions already answered 2 posts before?
Looks nice, I'll have an eye on WAAH!

Also, seems like I'm doing an german translation.

nope.


<10 pages, i read em all  Grin Grin Grin
108  Other / Off-topic / Re: if you woke up in 2037, what's the first thing you'd google? on: May 03, 2017, 01:14:59 PM
pr0n actress  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
109  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [SKY] Skycoin Launch Announcement on: May 02, 2017, 08:28:54 PM
This post is for Skycoin and others interested in the success of this coin, and are my considerations of the situation.

Because All skycoins have have been created in genesis block, and becaause they were not distributed straight away.  This coin has created for itself a distribution nightmare.
To hold back coins and release when wanting to, whatever the excuses allows a situation to arise that will never, never be able to be explained away no matter how much you try.
It is not practical or reasonable to try and control the price in anyway.
The coin has to be able to carry itself to be successful.


There is only one way forward as far as I can see.
The only way forward I believe is to do an overall coin offering.
Decide on a price.
Keep a percentage for yourselves for developement and to pay what has been promised, this amount has to be know and reasonable.
Give the total supply being 100 million minus what has been sold as the coins available for the sale and whatever is not sold has to be burned into none existance.
Keeping the sale price low will ensure most if not all are sold.
Now let the free market do its thing.
I am quite sure there is no other solution to this problem this is why ethereum tokens are also done this way as its the only fair way when all coins exist from the beginning.

I would suggest a coin price of the average of the initial coin offerings.
In this way the developement team will be in the same boat as everyone else and they will still get their reward as the coin matures. I believe that this is the only fair and equatable way forward.


This makes sense, but what about the poor suckers who bought SKY coins years ago?

Best distro I've seen lately is byteball, airdrop 10% every full moon onto existing holders, has incentive of compound interest that prevents dumping until all coins afe released. Moving to 100% distribution asap is definitely advisable, but using some airdrops to reward past investors and encourage new ones to hodl would get SKY into top 20 almost immediately.

Again, the byteball distribution is utter trash. It makes no sense from an economic standpoint. I don't get why people are so positive about it, probably because it benefits them personally as large bitcoin holders.

"Is this a joke? I really hate how people praise byteball distribution. Ooooh lets give people free money based on how much money they already have, let's make the rich richer and help to consolidate wealth further!

In an ICO or crowdsale the rich can still buy more, obviously, since they have more money to invest- but that also requires they invest more which means they are taking on more risk. With an airdrop there is no risk, the rich are just handed more money than other people for no reason other than the fact they already have more money. They don't have to take on any proportional risk. It's an absolutely trash economic model that will never work."

If byteball never amounts to anything, which I doubt it will, it will be because of its shitty distrbution model that incentives hording and rewards the rich and weathy simply for being rich and wealthy while fucking over those that haven't already amassed amd horded capital.

Shit, in the byteball model even if you are rich and wealthy if you aren't hording your wealth but are instead actively investing and utilizing it (which is the best thing to do, not only for the interests of oneself but also for the economy as a whole) you get fucked too. Like all the people, such as myself, that have a fair amount of wealth in cryptocurrency, but don't horde it all away as bitcoin and instead actively trade and invest with it. I get nothing from their shitty distribution because I'm actively contributing to and participating in the growth of the economy instead of sitting on and doing nothing with my money.

Oh but guess who does get rewarded? All the exchanges, projects, and services that can claim their users', investors', and customers' BTC as though it is their own.

Fuck byteball and fuck "airdrop" distribution models. Anybody with any sense of how economics works will agree that that model of distinction is utter and complete trash. It has never been a viable model in any conventional economy and I strongly believe it will never work in a cryptocurrency based economy. If skycoin ever does something similar I will be out and never look back.  

byteball is a good coin man.

What an insightful response. I never saw it that way before, but you just completely swayed my opinion with those eloquent rebuttals of the points I made.

But seriously, sure bytecoin is a good coin with good tech but its airdrop distribution model is whack and I'll never invest a penny into it for that reason. Please convince me otherwise that the economic issues I highlighted above are not a problem.

to be honest i agree with you, right now whales keep holding byteball because they got interest every full moon. can you imagine when distributions is over? the only things that keep byteball can hold their values are the tech behind it, DAG looks sexy because it's different than other blockchain based crypto, however still i dont like the idea of whales own massive amount of byteball.

maybe you can think i am jealous, because i dont own alot of btc and byteball, lol  Grin Grin Grin .... but come on DAG looks promising, it would be shame if distributions method seems not "fair".

i wish tony change his mind and spread the wealth to other peoples.

disclaimer: i do bought small amount of byteball, since we cant predict the future. well just in case  Grin Grin Grin

p.s.: sssssshhhh there's new coin on the block doin airdrop to btc holder too  Roll Eyes
110  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Liburan Di Bali Dengan Bitcoin on: May 02, 2017, 01:26:35 PM
buset dah nih agan udah pake liburan segala  Cool

brarti btc nya udah numpuk banyak yah  Grin Grin Grin
111  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [finance.detik.com ] Gagal Paham Tentang Cryptocurrency on: May 02, 2017, 01:23:24 PM
sebenarnya yang dia tulis ada benarnya, cuman sayangnya karena bagian akhirnya kok malah ngiklan jadinya artikelnya serasa ga berimbang.
112  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: tentang exchanger untuk pemula on: May 02, 2017, 01:15:53 PM
maaf sebelumnya, ini saya ingin nanya. exchanger yang feenya rendah apa ya? saya bingung terlalu banyak exchanger soalnya
terima kasih Cheesy

exchanger bitcoin rupiah dengan fee withdraw kecil luno gan
withdraw disana fee nya cuma Rp 6500 berapapun withdraw nya
situsnya apa gan,, makasih

ini bro https://www.luno.com
113  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: tentang exchanger untuk pemula on: May 02, 2017, 01:13:26 PM
maaf sebelumnya, ini saya ingin nanya. exchanger yang feenya rendah apa ya? saya bingung terlalu banyak exchanger soalnya
terima kasih Cheesy

exchanger bitcoin rupiah dengan fee withdraw kecil luno gan
withdraw disana fee nya cuma Rp 6500 berapapun withdraw nya

klo di vip brapa gan fee withdraw IDR?

soalnya belum verifikasi n withdraw bank
114  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Trading Saham , Forex , Binary , Cryptocurrency on: May 02, 2017, 01:08:31 PM
enaknya trading crypto itu regulasinya masih minim ato bahkan tidak ada, jadinya gak ribet siapapun bisa langsung nyoba. perkara fees sih masih bisa dibilang masuk akal alias gak mahal lah.

sedangkan saham dan forex kan resmi dan legal makanya regulasinya macem2
115  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: WAAH Integrated Platform - Airdrop - May 7 2017 to all WAAH holders at 1:1, 1:2 on: May 02, 2017, 10:35:21 AM
lol i forgot my waves in exchange  Grin Grin Grin
116  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackBit Project Start on: May 02, 2017, 06:07:15 AM
It's awful to do that
It is a double expense that means that someone took advantage of my kindness to have BB



https://blockchain.info/fr/tx/72ed419f6f9672e28aec27a134f37d84a5dfdf47d3cc76726e5a6d880f92b4db


It is a double expense that means that someone took advantage of my kindness to have BB

It's not a double spend. It's a replace by fee.

It is my transaction. I have been trying since yesterday to help it go through by replacing it with a higher fee transaction. It is supported in electrum but the stupid block explorer sees it as double spend and rejects it.

I have now tried to accelerate it using viabtc. It should go through during the day.

Sorry for this, it was not an attempt to scam

your tx fees way to low.

couple days ago my tx with fees 0.0005 btc unconfirmed for 2days
117  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Diskusi] Altcoin Di Exchanger Poloniex, Bittrex, Yobit dan C-cex on: May 01, 2017, 01:26:32 PM
bittrex kena DDOS tidak bisa akses ke akun bisa di bilang ALTCOIN di dalam nya longsor dalam  Angry Angry
https://twitter.com/BittrexExchange/status/859001904164093953
Kena DDOS gimana maksudnya gan?
Perasaan cuman gak bisa login doang.
duhh gak ngudeng nich orang, kalau yg nama nya kena DDOS ya gak bisa login gan

 Grin Grin Grin Grin

jangan galak2 om  Wink
118  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: BYTEBALL: Algoritma konsensus (baru) + pembayaran pribadi yang tak bisa dilacak on: April 30, 2017, 12:06:10 PM
Ane tadi coba install walletnya terus coba untuk dapat gratisan,apa udah habis yak kok pas ane kirim chat kayanya sudah terlambat. "Sorry, you are late. See you in the next round."


mungkin kuota partisipan nya sudah penuh gan.. atau kalau enggak sudah mencapai batas tanggal ketentuannya

nganu gan, pas setelah full moon lewat biasanya si bot dinonaktifkan. kalau pembagian jatahnya udah kelar baru diaktifkan kembali.
119  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: BYTEBALL: Algoritma konsensus (baru) + pembayaran pribadi yang tak bisa dilacak on: April 28, 2017, 03:00:03 PM
Kalau pakai wallet android bisa gak ya, soalnya pc gak support utk donlot walletnya

bisa aja, jangan lupa sering2 full backup

setelah round 4 ini masih ada distribusi airdroop dari byteball koin ga
atau round 4 ini, adalah round terkahir dari byteball coin dalam mendistribusikan koin nya

masih lanjut, ronde ke 5 pada 10 mei jam nya lupa. kalo mau jatah ada 2 cara, ngelink btc dan ato hold byteball.
ronde selanjutnya setiap bulan penuh/purnama sampai habis semua distribusinya.
gila byteball sayang waktu itu ane gak punya btc, untuk distribusi berikutnya ane mau standby dah .. thank you gan infonya   Smiley

round 5 sepertinya tanggal 11 mei gan akan ada distrubsi bytball coin lagi

kurang lebih lah, beda zona waktu sih.

liat ini aja biar simple https://www.timeanddate.com/moon/phases/
120  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Jika pengguna bitcoin suatu saat ditark pajak... mau??? on: April 28, 2017, 02:42:26 PM
lho bukannya sudah ditentukan BI kalau crypto dianggap sebagai apa gitu -lupa istilahnya-, jadi ga kena pajak dsb. buktinya bitcoin.co.id masih santai2 aja deposit/withdraw fiat -IDR-.
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