You will get bashed no matter the premine.
See as an example monerov and monero, these guys are bashed but are the first ones to come up with a privacy issue with Monero.

Premine size is all about planning for the future, what is your project is solving.
A great example for this is Dash, which at least got the funds to establish a great network, develop, and market a good coin.

PS, thank you for the service

It says on the ANN page it is block 1529810.
Massive fud going around that popcorn comment was on point 

Yes, it sure does looks like monero guys are sending heaps of new accounts everywhere.
I wonder if this is actually like shooting themselves in the leg, or worthwhile. 

- They've put out an ANN thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2947912.0
- Released blockchain explorer
- Official Monero team are talking about them exposing a big privacy flaw in monero
- All the talk is that at last a legitimate fork for xmr is happening.

This all builds up to pretty much a big event.

I believe both are here to stay.

XMR obviously has a great community behind it, but also major flaws and centrelazation/scale issues.
It's going to play out somewhat similar to BTC and BCH imo.

More I'm seeing the Monero community so defensive and childish, the more I'm bullish on XMV and think this is going to be huge.
I'll be waiting for the open-source wallet before extracting them though, definitely a long-term hold.

tbh, this read just made me more in favour of xmv. It appears as a one-sided smear.
And actually what they were quoted by are excellent responses.

I'd be very happy to see the full response of monerov's team if Jaimy would release it.

I'm actually LOVING the article if you read it through.
Yes, sure it is one-sided and all, and obviously was lacking the full response from xmv's team, but if you read through the interesting parts -

“We believe Monero’s infinite coin supply was a mistake and is a tax in the form of inflation for all XMR holders.
This is a fundamental flaw that MoneroV fixes by putting a cap on the total MoneroV coins that can be created.”


AND

“we are also glad that we had contributed to the future privacy of both coins by helping to reveal an unknown flaw that researchers and cryptographers in the community had missed for years.”


Both lead to the conclusion that the MoneroV team know what they are doing and the Monero guys are being over-defensive about this.
Once this forks happen and hit the exchanges, it will be huge.

I'd be thrilled to see the complete response given to Jamie Holmes who published this.

By all means, this is an exciting fork coming our way.
Seeing Monero's panicky reaction says it all, as they dismissed all other forks.

I guess time will tell but I'm looking forward to the 14th.

ps. this is a bitcoin discussion forum, why here?

MoneroV seems to be a  surprising and necessary fork after all.
How did the Monero entire community and dev team haven't seen this flaw the whole time?

The article is somewhat one-sided, but the parts and quotes from their team are reasonable.
As time passes, I support these guys more and more.

I read this and it is somewhat one-sided.
What about the issues raised by xmv being a good thing, exposing a basic flaw with monero?


This is sound advice and exactly what i'm going to do with mine.

They have went out with the ann thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2947912.0

Been following the hype since the last thread here on bitcointalk

The PDF was a good read.
The new coin being finite is a great feature I root for, being like bitcoin, gold and any real currency.

Only thing I'm not sure about the over-ambitious plans planned to 2019, but who knows  

I use in electrum.
It is a very convenient wallet and very easy, in addition it is one of the safest wallet there is.

I agree.
people who don't understand in bitcoin should not invest in it. they just put money because it is a trend now and if the price fall a little bit they start to panic and lose money. people that don't built to this instability of prices should not invest in bitcoin.

I think the opposite. They are proposing big changes including the POW, max coin supply and mitigating botnet / hack mining (did not say how yet). These are al things people in the Monero community are aware of.

Febo, seems like you are hating the wrong project here. Went through their stuff, it's legit.
No way someone will do take the most difficult way, warn everybody about building the source, releasing actual Monero blockchain code (they released a block explorer yesterday) just to airdrop a coin that will most likely have less buzz then a different marketed project.

tbh I'm thrilled for this 100%

This is all the same exactly like in the stock market. The masses take you approach, others invest when it's low.
 

Hey you mention it's not a good time to buy altcoins, but can you but the new Monerov before the airdrop anywhere?
I think it is not possible unless dev team sell tokens, is this right?

Because you cannot expect something to rise 50% month after month for a lifetime.
The quicker any 'bubble' rises, so it crashes. Give it some time and it will be straight back up there.

This sounds like an interesting twist on Monero, which I do like and didnt think it was infinite.
Still, maybe it's a good privacy coin and better be finite, but what about it being bloated and un-scalable?


From a quick read, the new fork will be finite, not the opposite.