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101  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 16, 2018, 05:37:13 PM
Also, you seemed to miss my point (though it was stated subtly, I'll admit) that the gain in efficiency will pay for those upgrades--most companies have no qulams about spending <$1 (or any amount) if it pays them back over time in efficiency/profit margin. If IOTA secures their data streams and allows them to sell data that would otherwsie be useless, and do so without a fee--yes, companies will gladly change to ternary chips. Do you think Bosch, Fujitsu and VW don't know that IOTA is designed for ternary? I'm pretty sure their research goes beyond a good day spent on google--though some are better than others in that regard.


Hello, please...    trillions   of  dollars/eur   is  not   a  joke, for  any company.

Also  the data  marketplace  is  available  for evryone

Example:  In  my house  there  are three  smart  Bosh Iot devices  or sensors.

I can   sell  the  data  of that sensors  in the IOTA market, not  Bosh.

The DATA  produced  by that  sensors are MINE,  not  of  Bosh.

SO  HOW  DO YOU THINK COMPANIES  WILL REVENUE FROM DATA MARKETPLACE?



102  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 16, 2018, 04:39:37 PM

New website is live: https://www.iota.org/





Are you excpecting a  price per coin of  360$ ?

Are you sure?

Based on what?   Even  if  IOT   would adopt IOTA  tecno (A BIG IF  and  A  BIG BET)  how can you  esxpect  a price like that   WITH  2  BILLLIONS  TOKENS?


You do know that the IOT is estimated to become 10-35 trillion over the coming decades?  Thinking that the protocol layer handling it would get 10% of the low ball figure--and given that crypto's values are way higher than what they perform in actual usecases, my figure is pretty conservative. Not sure why everyone gets fixated on issued coins when that figure is relative to the amount of marketcap, which in turn is relative to the use case, which is relative to things like first mover advantage, and so on...


The  current  IOT devices  are BINARY

DO YOU THINK   the  entire  world  will change    because  IOTA is ternary?

That  guy  has explained  very  well that   ternary trit  cause overload   on  binary processors, and  a wasteful of energy  for  BINARY  hardwares  to adapt to  the    signals  sent from the ternary devices.

Also   read  up this,  I have searched  on  internet  ''In which  markets  are  we going to see  IOTA?''


Look at  all the  answers,  ahahahah they  'll make  uou  laugh... no one  has been  able to give a  good  use-case  of  IOTA  ahahaha

read up  and  laugh

https://www.reddit.com/r/Iota/comments/7npf1f/what_are_iota_real_life_use_cases/



LAST  BUT NOT  THE LEAST,  REMEMBER THE  CURL VULNERABILITY ,.    whcih   devs  said  ''We  want to  protect the code  from copy past''...  so I am   asking  WHY  DON'T  the devs   make  the source code   closed instead  of  letting  curl  vulnerabilities in the  code?






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You do realize that IOTA is in BETA (but still manages to process millions of dollars without a single fee), so usecases are being developed. If you can make the same claim after IOTA is production ready, you'd actually have a valid criticism--though given how many developers and corporations are working on IOTA POCs, it seems doubtful that your early criticism will last to when it matters.

As far as ternary, IOT devices need to be as efficient as possible, ternary is more efficient than binary. AFAIK, JINN processors are going to be <$1, so it is not going to be cost prohibitive (especially given improved efficiency) for corporations and countries to install new sensors or upgrade their current ones. Most decisions the IOTA devs make are in mind of the small power footprint of these devices. I feel like people who are criticizing ternary are blind to JINN or how IOT devices need to use as little power as possible, but it may be a willful blindness.

I'll wait for the third party evaluation of curl-p to see who was right about its security risks/non-risks. CFB/BCNext did put similar measures in NXT, so it is not without precedent (however unpopular it may be).


Aahahah  JIN  1$  to upgrade  existing devices  to  the ternary  devices  ahahaha  

There  are  a lot of devices  (trillions)  using  binary hardware,  1$  for  upgrading each device, make the math  ahahahha  

In your opinion companies  will  pay trillions  to upgrade their  devices  to TERNARY  ahahahahahah


You made  the wrong  investment    just  admit  it.


103  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 16, 2018, 03:57:01 PM

New website is live: https://www.iota.org/





Are you excpecting a  price per coin of  360$ ?

Are you sure?

Based on what?   Even  if  IOT   would adopt IOTA  tecno (A BIG IF  and  A  BIG BET)  how can you  esxpect  a price like that   WITH  2  BILLLIONS  TOKENS?


You do know that the IOT is estimated to become 10-35 trillion over the coming decades?  Thinking that the protocol layer handling it would get 10% of the low ball figure--and given that crypto's values are way higher than what they perform in actual usecases, my figure is pretty conservative. Not sure why everyone gets fixated on issued coins when that figure is relative to the amount of marketcap, which in turn is relative to the use case, which is relative to things like first mover advantage, and so on...


The  current  IOT devices  are BINARY

DO YOU THINK   the  entire  world  will change    because  IOTA is ternary?

That  guy  has explained  very  well that   ternary trit  cause overload   on  binary processors, and  a wasteful of energy  for  BINARY  hardwares  to adapt to  the    signals  sent from the ternary devices.

Also   read  up this,  I have searched  on  internet  ''In which  markets  are  we going to see  IOTA?''


Look at  all the  answers,  ahahahah they  'll make  uou  laugh... no one  has been  able to give a  good  use-case  of  IOTA  ahahaha

read up  and  laugh

https://www.reddit.com/r/Iota/comments/7npf1f/what_are_iota_real_life_use_cases/



LAST  BUT NOT  THE LEAST remember the Curl vulnerability ..  the   devs  said  ''We  want to  protectthe code  from copy past''...  so I am   asking  why don't  the devs   make  the source code   closed instead  of  letting  curl  vulnerabilities in the  code?





104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: Spectre.ai information - 100 trader Live Money Test Active! on: April 16, 2018, 12:31:24 AM
I have lost a  lot of  money  with this  coin

Bought  at  78 cent


DEVs,  try to    make  a better  graphic   for the platform

I tried  once  trading  and the  grafic  was clearly NOT  USER FRIENDLY  

HOW CAN YOU ATTRACT  NORMIES  AND TRADERS  TO  YOUR  PLATFORM IF  YOU DON'T  MAKE IT ''APPEALING''  AND  USER FRIENDLY?


LEARN A  LITTLE  BIT OF MARKETING, SIR.  

AND  try to market  your  product    and  make  also OFF LINE  SEO.

NO ONE  one knows about SPECTRE

It has been  passed   10 months,  still no one  trades  on this platform, where  do  we want  go?



105  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 15, 2018, 10:39:17 PM

New website is live: https://www.iota.org/





Are you excpecting a  price per coin of  360$ ?

Are you sure?

Based on what?   Even  if  IOT   would adopt IOTA  tecno (A BIG IF  and  A  BIG BET)  how can you  esxpect  a price like that   WITH  2  BILLLIONS  TOKENS?







106  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 15, 2018, 10:37:03 PM

This  guy   talks  about IOTA, concerns and ternary processor

https://hackernoon.com/why-i-find-iota-deeply-alarming-934f1908194b
https://hackernoon.com/iota-the-currency-of-skynet-281b6abaec5

One of the first things you learn on investigating Iota further is that it uses balanced ternary, a numeral system with 3 digits, -1, 0 and 1. The authors have various arguments as to why they made this decision, but they come down to two main ones:

    Ternary processors are theoretically more efficient than binary processors.
    Certain mathematical constructs are more cleanly represented in balanced ternary.

Unfortunately, neither of these are relevant in a practical system. Iota is by necessity built to run on existing hardware, which is exclusively binary, as are the communication networks it uses. As a result, all of its internal ternary notation has to be encapsulated in binary, resulting in significant storage and computational overhead. Math must either be performed on individual ‘trits’ or first converted from binary-wrapped-ternary encoding into the machine’s native number representation, and back again afterwards — in either case imposing a large computational overhead.

Likewise, the theoretical benefits of a balanced ternary notation, such as not needing a sign bit, are more than outweighed by the practical disadvantages, since every processor Iota will run on is already equipped to perform math on twos-complement numbers, but requires software emulation to operate on balanced ternary.

This combination of not invented here syndrome and the Dunning-Kruger effect has led to a situation where the authors of Iota have decided that their affection for the tidyness of balanced ternary must outweigh all practical considerations in system design, and leads to a syst
107  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 15, 2018, 08:45:12 PM
why  do the price  should  increase?   What's  your point  of  wiev?  Only because of  speculation? From where  will come the demand  for this  coin?
From nerds? Not  from the avearege joe

There is not a wallet for IOTA yet, i don't feel safe without having them on my hardware wallet.

In fact, i do not hold any coins that can not be in a hardware wallet. If they have other protocol, i don't storage them because of my own safety.



IOTA   a  coin which  doesn't  even get a  wallet  after 4 years of  development


108  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 15, 2018, 05:22:44 PM


why  do the price  should  increase?   What's  your point  of  wiev?  Only because of  speculation? From where  will come the demand  for this  coin?
From nerds? Not  from the avearege joe


109  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 15, 2018, 05:22:04 PM

The network  doesn't  work at the moment  without  coordinator,   So  this is  a big bet   with an high risk  of losing all the money if the tecnology  won't  work.
Also  Hashgraph  has  its tangle  tecnology  which  could be  a    better competitor,  also beacause  a lot  of big Companies have invested in Hasgraph.
IOTA  has  a   2  billions  coins... ahaha   even if it succeeded  where   do you think  the price  can go? Aahah  5$



Are you buying or something? You seem real anxious to throw any shit against the wall you can. But if we're being honest, I'd rather bet with Bosch and against a guy who doesn't even know what a node is.

My long term outlook is a trillion in marketcap (~360). That would be indicative that they reached their goal of becoming the protocol layer of the IOT--in fact, that's likely low if that goal is reached. It may crash and burn, but you're not going to find a better value proposition in crypto (at least not near term*).

*This obviously counts out small cap pump and dumps.

I have bought  IOTA at 35 cent,  sold at 1$ and  I  am thinking  about  buying   again but with a larger stake.

Obviously  based on all    I  have red  on internet  about this project  I don't feel so   confident


why  do the price  should  increase?   What's  your point  of  wiev?  Only because of  speculation? From where  will come the demand  for this  coin?
From nerds? Not  from the avearege joe



110  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA on: April 15, 2018, 05:18:13 PM

why  do the price  should  increase?   What's  your point  of  wiev?  Only because of  speculation? From where  will come the demand  for this  coin?
From nerds? Not  from the avearege joe
111  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][RLC] iEx.ec blockchain-based distributed cloud announces its Crowdsale on: April 15, 2018, 04:22:54 PM
This is absolutely an impossible project. No doubt it is not. Its future is bright, because their services are useful to everyone in the world.

Hello  can I ask somenthing?


How  will  Amazon Webservice, Microsoft  behave themselves   when they  will see  a  competitor  like RLC?

As seen that   ''Distribuited computation''  will be cheaper  than the existing  datacenters,  how will  they  behave?  Will AMazon build  its own distribuited blockchain ledger to compete  with RLC and  distribuited computers?


Amazon  the biggest  companies  in the planet,  do you think they  will let themselves  fu*ck by  blockchain RLC solutions?



112  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 15, 2018, 03:49:16 PM

The network  doesn't  work at the moment  without  coordinator,   So  this is  a big bet   with an high risk  of losing all the money if the tecnology  won't  work.
Also  Hashgraph  has  its tangle  tecnology  which  could be  a    better competitor,  also beacause  a lot  of big Companies have invested in Hasgraph.
IOTA  has  a   2  billions  coins... ahaha   even if it succeeded  where   do you think  the price  can go? Aahah  5$

113  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA on: April 15, 2018, 03:03:35 PM



Hello,  can we please discuss  about  price prediction?

If  you  would  hold  until 2023  what price  do you expect?


Why  the price of the coin  should increase?    An  increament of the price is  based on supply and demand.   What  will be  the demand of  IOTAs if it  succeeded?

Why   should there be  an high demand  of  IOTA coins? 


Please   can you  answer   question  (without moderating  the  querstion)?




114  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA on: April 15, 2018, 02:59:07 PM
What I like about IOTA is IOTA is much more than a payment system. Companies can adapt the Tangle technology to support their IoT use cases, of course, integrate payment processes, document all transactions at the same time legally compliant and much more. It’s not just that one robot pays certain services to another robot through IOTA. The system also controls the robot when needed.


How  will it control  the  robot?  It basically  can make  feeless  data  transactions,  but how  can you control the robot trought  IOTA?



115  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XSH] TOR/i2p, Quantum proof, MN, PoS/PoW, Fully ano, SHIELD on: April 15, 2018, 02:49:12 PM
https://request.coinpulse.io/suggestions/6022/shield-xsh

can vote to add XSH on this exchange here- bookmark set as homepage- vote daily-ramp up the votes



I red that Japan wants to regulate  privacy coins in order to avoid tax evasion.  How  will handle  XSH  this?

I am  asking this because it's a privacy coin



If xsh will be listed in major Japanese exchanges we all will be millionaire Grin So better ask when xsh will be listed at bittrex or something like.

you  can't be  millionaire  if  the coin itself  doesn't bring somenhing new  in to the crypto space

So, in order to be millionair the  coin itself should compete with Monero   bringing to the privacysphere a new method of making private transactions, which should better  than the existent privacy methods (Monero, Dash, Verge)

If XSH  can  do this,  then yes  , investing now  will  make you  a millionaire.  If not,  it will be another  privacy coin  like others privacy coins

The  question is:  What  does it have XSH  more than Monero?  Why  should  it be better  than Verge or Monero?

When  you will ask to this  question,  you will know  how to behave.


116  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / I wanto to save a lil bit time on: April 14, 2018, 06:23:35 PM
1)  Don't  invest  in buzzwords  project.

AI, IOT, Blockchain 3.0,  Blockchain of the next  generation  and so on


Those  are all buzzwords made for money  grab  from nweby during the  ICO boom

Thankfully  the  scammy ICO  boom has  come  to  an end  and from now you   will be  able to distinguish the  value projects  from the scammish



2)  Don't invest in Interoperability blockchain

Onather  buzzword, used in 2017. A lot  of  competition


3)  Don't invest in decentralized exanges

A lot of competition



4)  Don't invest  in currency coins

They have no future... no one  will  send  money trought  bitcoin   because  of the  volatility of  the currency.


5)  Don't fell for the store  of value.  

You can't  store  value  on a currency  that  loses 70%  in 3 months


6) Don't  think     ''Bitcoin price  will increase, HODL''

It's  stupid...    simply bitcoin will be more stable in the future

117  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Next 10x coin? on: April 14, 2018, 06:16:23 PM
Maybe you're right. Now I'm following only one project, which is dedicated to the artificial intelligence, it's a pity that many do not believe in this industry.
artificial intelligence in crypto is a buzzword, don't fall for those  traps

invest on smart contracts  platforms







118  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [XSH] TOR/i2p, Quantum proof, MN, PoS/PoW, Fully ano, SHIELD on: April 14, 2018, 04:24:00 PM
https://request.coinpulse.io/suggestions/6022/shield-xsh

can vote to add XSH on this exchange here- bookmark set as homepage- vote daily-ramp up the votes



I red that Japan wants to regulate  privacy coins in order to avoid tax evasion.  How  will handle  XSH  this?

I am  asking this because it's a privacy coin


119  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 14, 2018, 03:18:25 PM
this dumb assertion by copy/pasting BTC and ETH wallets--actual new technologies can't do this, so it's a backwards indicator for many speculators).

What   do you think about IOTA full-node?

I have heard  about them but I still can't figure out  why we are going to need them?

Basically IOTA  is  POWless so  why  there is the need  of  running some  Full nodes?




Miners do POW--IOTA doesn't have miners--though there is a trivial amount of POW that's done at the time of a tx.

Nodes are the ones communicating the data. If you are using a wallet, you have to connect to a node to interact with the network. AFAIK, every computer network has nodes.  

I have  heard  IOTA  full nodes  and swarm  nodes

I am just asking  to you  what are they, cause  I can't  find  a  detailed  answer in internet


I have to say that  the  tecnlogy  is fascinating  tought.

I can   see IOTA  fundation at  40/50$  per  coin in 2024  or  somenthing near it  if  the  tecnology   is ok  and  worked   (IF)


120  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA is the next big thing on: April 14, 2018, 02:27:02 PM
this dumb assertion by copy/pasting BTC and ETH wallets--actual new technologies can't do this, so it's a backwards indicator for many speculators).

What   do you think about IOTA full-node?

I have heard  about them but I still can't figure out  why we are going to need them?

Basically IOTA  is  POWless so  why  there is the need  of  running some  Full nodes?


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