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101  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 14, 2014, 06:25:56 PM
There just won't be the BTC volume to sustain that value

Sustaining a price is a PoW coin issue. It's a far different scenario when you have little to no miner/dumper coin generation. (reference to QRK after it was 98% mined followed by 3000% rise and even to this day after coming back to Earth it's still up like 1000% compared to where it all started)

In the end though, you are right that something is only worth what someone else is willing to pay. The multipool will be the foundation for whatever is to come for this coin. As long as interest is maintained or increased, price will continue to rise.

No sustaining a price comes from investors not miners, miners never sustain price they just dump and take the BTC

If you guys really think the pool is going to be able to pump out 200 BTC a day to sustain current prices then good luck to you but we should be realistic about this... 200BTC is ALOT to ask for from 1 single source, it's not impossible sure, but consider these factors.

You're going to need alot of miners for 200BTC daily average if we take 0.01Btc per 1mh/day which is the general average every miner tries to strive towards for daily profits, you're going to need 20,000mh in the pool also you're going to need to rely on the coins you've all mined to retain some decent value to turn a profit and the way things are right now that 0.01BTC average looks more like 0.008/9BTC so that's even more miners you're going to need.

I'd say from a realistic point of view BC's value will floor at around 800 to 1k after the initial hype wears off and people get bored and move onto something else unless the coin can offer something with true intrinsic value and purpose other than giving miners BC to convert into BTC or hold for 1% compounded interest

You seem to miss the point where total coins are 70mil. If this coin was in the billions like MINT current price would be 2 satoshi.

200BTC would mean about 20% of total coins.

To ppl who don't know. He's just trying to lower the price in order to get in.
102  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 14, 2014, 06:03:14 PM
I'm sad I couldn't buy back @ 1600. This coins true value is not 1.5-2k, it's way more than that.
103  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 14, 2014, 01:06:04 PM
Ok then, so please explain me, how pool will be buying BC? for what? some BC will be contributed by miners as fees so pool will withdraw them to miners again. But what about rest?  Pool need to have BTC to by BC on open market. How will they earn BTC to buy BC?


For not the pool will be like a normal multipool. It will mine coins and then sell them for BTC. Then it will buy BC with that bitcoin.
104  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 14, 2014, 11:39:13 AM
Nobody has missed it.I can literally tell that when you miss this it will be way over 40000 sat.

We just have to realise that all can be gone just as fast..... Only this is the first time there is only growing demand and no more growing supply.... hope it plays out well.  Maybe BTC is expressed in terms of blacktoshis in a week from now Smiley

40000 satoshi lol.. I wish. 5000-10000 by the end of the month sounds way more reasonable.

even 10k would be insane!

It's not insane. I didn't know how many BC are. When that guy told me 70M I was LOL and instantly bought in.
To put it in perspective this right now even @ 2000 is 10 times cheaper than MINT.
I don't expect it to reach MINT price soon but certainly I don't expect it to stay here.

You guys realize this coin has no premine, and one of the fairest starts. Active community and good devs.
105  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ☆☆ [ANN] Saturncoin [SAT] - SOON ON CRYPTSY - MINTPAL EXCHANGE !!!! ☆☆ on: March 14, 2014, 11:32:08 AM
Must be nice to have enough BTC to put buy walls and force people to sell you at lower price.  Smiley
106  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 14, 2014, 11:27:15 AM
Nobody has missed it.I can literally tell that when you miss this it will be way over 40000 sat.

We just have to realise that all can be gone just as fast..... Only this is the first time there is only growing demand and no more growing supply.... hope it plays out well.  Maybe BTC is expressed in terms of blacktoshis in a week from now Smiley

40000 satoshi lol.. I wish. 5000-10000 by the end of the month sounds way more reasonable.
107  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 14, 2014, 11:04:12 AM
Wish I bought more at 1000 last night. Iv'e bought 10,000 over 1600 today. Worth getting more?

I feel you. Had my money in SAT and some asshole decided to dump ~25 btc. So I had no choice but to wait for buy orders to go back up and missed at 1000. Watching the price rise and knowing you can't do anything, sucks.  Wink
108  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 14, 2014, 11:00:41 AM
IMHO yes.

To put in perspective if this were 70 bil like mintcoin, the price would be 2 satoshi. And this has no premine. (mint has 960.000.000 premine)
109  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 14, 2014, 10:53:53 AM
So 1700 is lowish.
110  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | on exchanges | PoS | No premine on: March 14, 2014, 10:49:33 AM
How many coins after the POW stage?
111  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ☆☆ [ANN] Saturncoin [SAT] - SOON ON CRYPTSY - MINTPAL EXCHANGE !!!! ☆☆ on: March 13, 2014, 10:51:22 PM
Cryptsy launch will propel this coin up, followed by some downturn, followed by (once again gradual rise).

Cryptsy is not the end all be all. It's just the beginning. That's what you have to keep in mind.

Interesting... I hope it will be a very good launch and we will mantain the prices between 10-15.
Don't want to see a big pump followed by panic sales. If we can just maintain this paste we are in now we will get to 50-100 satoshi in the end.

.. 50-100 is a bit too much. Best-case scenario. I think 20-40 within a month is much more realistic. And that's if things go well.

That said don't compare this to MOON either.. This coin is much better than moon.
112  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ☆☆ [ANN] Saturncoin [SAT] - SOON ON CRYPTSY - MINTPAL EXCHANGE !!!! ☆☆ on: March 13, 2014, 10:33:10 PM
It has been on the top rank of Cryptsy for the whole week. But I do believe people are interested in this coin. I'm curious how the cryptsy launch wil go. Have seen some coins that got f*** due to the cryptsy launch.

If people don't get overly-excited and dump as much as they can the price should stabilize at about 12. 20->12-13 in the first hours after cryptsy launch. After that I can't say it depends on the devs and people in here.

If it doesn't get on cryptsy I think it will go back to about 8-10 satoshi.

The main thing any coin needs is MARKETING. Aka to get people OUTSIDE of this forum interested in it and give them reasons to buy it.

Somebody here compared this to MINT. You can't compare this to MINT. MINT has 3 huge things this coin doesn't have:
- POS - An actual reason for the people to keep their coins and not dump them. Also POW is done so no miners to dump them either.
- MINTPAL - which is the best and most reliable exchange out of them all. It isn't the most popular, but certainly the best. And it will get only better.
- a huge community

113  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ☆☆ [ANN] Saturncoin [SAT] - SOON ON CRYPTSY - MINTPAL EXCHANGE !!!! ☆☆ on: March 13, 2014, 09:59:45 PM
There is no whale, there are no walls, there is no pump. Aside from the people interested in investing, there are a few guys doing day-trading influencing the price. So far the price had gone up naturally (this is a VERY good thing, nobody to dump). That said if devs keep up the good work and community stays strong, price has lots of room to grow. Smiley

Yes the price is being pushed downwards so people can buy cheap, as soon as some scared people dumped their coins the prices go back to 10. I've seen this same thing a few times last 2 days.

The price isn't pushed downwards. It's just people following what other people say. If the vibe is good, price goes up. If the vibe is down, price goes down. Also half of the sell/buy orders are day-traders.

The reason price has gone up today is because of the cryptsy ranking. People got excited and bought in. Day traders saw the opportunity and bought in also. When the real investors got fewer, day traders sold to cut their losses and drove the price back down.

If it actually gets picked for Cryptsy tomorrow, price should go up to at least 12.


There is no whale, there are no walls, there is no pump. Aside from the people interested in investing, there are a few guys doing day-trading influencing the price. So far the price had gone up naturally (this is a VERY good thing, nobody to dump). That said if devs keep up the good work and community stays strong, price has lots of room to grow. Smiley

Yes the price is beeing pushed downwards so people can buy cheap, as soon as some scared people dumped their coins the prices go back to 10. I've seen this same thing a few times last 2 days.

24 Hour Volume:
54.168 BTC

absolutly just ordinary guys trading sure....

Man if I have 5btc I can buy/sell coins 10 times per day and make 50btc trade volume alone..
It's 54 btc because ppl are interested in it.

114  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ☆☆ [ANN] Saturncoin [SAT] - SOON ON CRYPTSY - MINTPAL EXCHANGE !!!! ☆☆ on: March 13, 2014, 09:44:28 PM
There is no whale, there are no walls, there is no pump. Aside from the people interested in investing, there are a few guys doing day-trading influencing the price. So far the price had gone up naturally (this is a VERY good thing, nobody to dump). That said if devs keep up the good work and community stays strong, SAT has lots of room to grow. Smiley
115  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ☆☆ [ANN] Saturncoin [SAT] - SOON ON CRYPTSY - MINTPAL EXCHANGE !!!! ☆☆ on: March 13, 2014, 02:50:09 PM
I don't know why this looks like when TOP was @ 10. Hope I'm wrong..

Big problem with cryptos is if the coin doesn't have huge support, it's enough one whale to dump for people to panic and price goes to shit.
116  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MINT]Mintcoin, Energy Saving Coin With a Fast Distribution *wallet 1.5 on: March 10, 2014, 11:20:04 PM
Cryptotrader "fair pumps". He can suck my dick. What a joke. Fucking scammer.

All money I've made today on mint I've lost on his dump. Not to mention time.
117  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MINT]Mintcoin, Energy Saving Coin With a Fast Distribution *wallet 1.5 on: March 10, 2014, 08:04:37 PM
Pump starts in 3hrs from my post according to their tweets.
118  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MEOW] KittehCoin Relaunch IS HERE!!!! on: March 10, 2014, 02:03:10 AM
At the current price this coin isn't valued more than any of the shitcoins (pandas penguin rabbit etc) released this year sitting at 1-2 satoshi. Which I find laughable.
119  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MINT]Mintcoin, Energy Saving Coin With a Fast Distribution *wallet 1.5 on: March 10, 2014, 12:00:14 AM
Well.. not 500 but  200 at least
120  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MINT]Mintcoin, Energy Saving Coin With a Fast Distribution *wallet 1.5 on: March 09, 2014, 11:11:03 PM
They want to keep the price down.

EDIT: I remember somebody buying all the coins up to 30 earlier. So if this thing is for real it will go over 30.
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